Suspected al-Qaida attack on Yemen army base kills 26

ADEN, Yemen - At least 13 soldiers and 13 suspected al-Qaida militants were killed in an attack on an army base in the southern province of Abyan on Friday, medical and military sources said. 

Two militants wearing army uniforms drove an explosives-laden car into the military base, killing themselves and 10 soldiers and injuring 15 other soldiers, a military official said.

Moments later, a group of militants attacked the base from the sea and 11 more militants and three soldiers were killed in the fighting that followed.

Key al-Qaida figure Saeed al-Shihiri killed by air strike, Yemen says

Violence has intensified in Yemen in recent weeks. The United States, wary of the growing power of al-Qaida, has stepped up drone strikes on suspected militant positions and militants have increased attacks on army targets.

Yemen's wealthier Gulf neighbors and Washington are concerned that al-Qaida and other Islamist militants operating in Yemen could pose a threat to top oil producer Saudi Arabia and to nearby shipping lanes.

Al-Qaida bomber was actually British spy

 The Yemen-based al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula and other militant groups strengthened their grip on parts of the country during an uprising that ousted veteran President Ali Abdullah Saleh in February.

A gunman opened fire outside a US embassy in Yemen, killing the Yemeni chief of security. The attack comes as a House committee investigating the Benghazi assault hears from two men who testified they had repeatedly asked for more security. TODAY's Natalie Morales reports.

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NBC has reported that Al Qaida was folded its tent, was defeated in Yemen and "folding" their tent for departure out of AO. All of the news reports stated that because the administration said so.

One of Murphy's Laws of Combat - "one you defeat an enemy in battle and secure an area of operations, make sure you inform the enemy of that".

Now it seems that reports are quite inaccurate.

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Reply#1 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:49 AM EDT

GM Jack,

How secure can your AOR be when it is "the Middle East?"

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#1.1 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:54 AM EDT

Good Morning Bill

360 degree security is warranted as there are no "front lines"! Basically, ya gotta have eyes in the back of your head!

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#1.2 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:35 AM EDT

People killed but the topic is "get Obama" as you read the postings below. What kind of people have many of us become?

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#1.3 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:08 AM EDT

this article doesnt mention what movie they were watching

    #1.4 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:54 AM EDT

    ALPHA-OMEGA

    People killed but the topic is "get Obama" as you read the postings below. What kind of people have many of us become?

    The kind who want "hope and change."

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    #1.5 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:23 AM EDT

    Obama has been touring the country pronouncing that he has defeated AL-Qaida. Just another lie from him? Typical Liberal Bullcrap? This tigar never changes his stripes! The Liar in Chief!

    qu

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    #1.6 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:38 AM EDT
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    One of Murphy's Laws of Combat - "one you defeat an enemy in battle and secure an area of operations, make sure you inform the enemy of that".

    LOL... A comment that will be a classic, jack.....

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    Reply#2 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:26 AM EDT

    "Two militants wearing army uniforms drove an explosives-laden car into the military base, killing themselves and 10 soldiers and injuring 15 other soldiers, a military official said"

    Shiites in Yemen should take advantage of battles between al Qaida and Saudi puppet Yemen govt. Shiites should battle for their Shiastan.

    In Muslim nations, Shiites are going through genocides. Shiites should hit back and demand their own Shiastan wherever they form more than 10 percent.

    Followers of Islamic cult, especially Sunni Saudi inspired Islamic radicals and militants (al-Qaida, Salaffi, Wahhabi, MB, Taliban and other label ones), are fast marching backwards to their seventh century desert tribal days.

    They are indulging in rapings, lootings, killings and genocides of non-Muslims (Darfur, S. Sudan, Nigeria and spreading like wild fire in many regions and Muslims (Libya, Yemen, Mali, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan and other places).

    Sunni Saudi backed Salaffi and MB new chapters are opening up in Egypt. Just watch the fate of Christians, women and Israel as the time goes by.

    Even in Syria, if Assad is overthrown by Sunni Islamic religious Nazis like al-Qaida, MB, the conditions of Christians will be unbearable just like Iraq.

    What is Hezbollah doing? They should come to Assad's rescue and eliminate Syrian rebels.

    Pakis and Sunni Saudis and co are responsible for 80 percent of world problems including economic ones.

    Examine the devastations with Iraqi wars.

    Just like before Iraqi wars, seventh century dances, screams and new inventions/stories are cropping up on Syria and Iran.

    With sanctions on Iranian oil, oil price which was around $40 in 2009 has crossed $110 now!

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    Reply#3 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:43 AM EDT

    Jonathan 1982062 you have outlined how complicated the situation really is. I don't have any answers. I only note that any knee-jerk reaction in any direction seems inadequate and ineffective.

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    #3.1 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:49 AM EDT

    Jonathan-1982062,

    ***********************************STOP YOUR TAQIYA*****************************

    SHIA (Shiites): Fundamentalist Islamic Interpretation of the Holy Koran Only, all other interpretations are Heresy (Death Penalty).

    Belief in the Holy Koran (Quran) Calls to All Islamic Believers to War Against the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers; Islamic Believers that do not participate are to "Dwell in that Firey Place".

    The Fundamentalist Islamic Muslim Brotherhood, so Fundamentalist Islamic that most Islamic Nations Outlawed them.

    The Al Quada International Franchises established as Fundamentalist Islam, as Anti US, Anti US Allies, Anti Sunnis . In the case of Al Quada Saudi Arabia, anti Sunnis US Ally Saudi Arabia Government.

    The Fundamentalist Islamic Arabic Omani Muslims are those that were massacring the Peaceful African Islamic Believers at Sudan hundreds a day almost a million to date;since the Peaceful African Islamic Believers refused to attack the Christians to the South. These are the same Fundamentalist Islamic Arabic Omani Muslims that Historically captured Africans and sold them into Slavery, also as the Ruling Class of Kenya that treats the Swahili as Fourth Class Citizens in their own Nation, Barack Hussein Obama's name is Arabic Omani Muslim, as to have a Swahili name at Kenya is an automatic disadvantage.

    The Fundamentalist Islamic Al Sheebah of Somalia use of the Islamic Starvation as a weapon by destroying all of the Infrastructure as built up to stop the cycles of droughts and starvation by the UN Mission Somalia I (aka US Military Operation Restore Hope) and UN Mission Somalia II (aka US Military Operation Continue Hope, due to President Clinton's Gutting of the US Intelligence Agencies and the Cut to the Bone Reduction In Forces of the US Military, US Military must rely on US Ally Pakistan's Military during the Battle of Mo (Mogadishu) with minimal or no US Intelligence the result being Blackhawk Down).

    The Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban as fully Supported by the USSR Backed Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran massacred the 1980s Pro US Afghan Muhajeen after the US abandoned them, then massacred any suspected Collaborators to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers. The 1990s Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban became the Government and instated Fundamentalist Islamic Shia (Sharia) Laws. Failed attempt to Use of Islamic Weapon, Starvation, in the failed attempts to fill in the Irrigation Canals built by the US. US Ally Afghanistan was a 20th Century "Little America" as built up by the US from the 1950s till 1979 (USSR 40th Army Occupation).

    The Majority of the Fundamentalist Islamic Holy Warriors of Islam (aka Islamic Jihadists) Goal is the Establishment of Shia (Sharia) Laws as the Rule of Law Worldwide.

    The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia are the majority, since while the Sunnis is negotiating ("empty words") the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia will shoot them in the face, "As the Dead do not complain".

    Fundamentalist Islamic Amin Al Husseini was the signatory as the Representative to the "Islamic World" to the Forever Alliance with Chancellor Hitler, 1933. Fundamentalist Islamic Amin Al Husseini legacy it the Fundamentalist Islamic Arab League of Nations (Original Charter the Extermination of the Jews) with demanded repeated attacks against Israel, Elite SS Muslim Brigades during WWII (round up of the Jews, for the "Work Camps"), current Mandatory School Curicuulum of Hitler's Mein Kampf as a Success Story sabotaged by the Jews and the Blame the Jews for Everything "Protocols of the Wise Elders of Zion" of course the 109 Suras of the 114 Suras of the Holy Koran Calls to War Against the Christians Jews Unbelievers, etc..

    Celebrations of the Defeats of the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers with Ramadan. Like the 20th Day of Ramadan being the Fundamentalist Islamic Believers (Muslims) massacres of the Christian and Jew Defenders as the Original Inhabitants of Mecca, 624 AD Battle of Badr.

    SUNNIS: Moderate Liberal Interpretation of the Holy Koran. Belief in the Use of Force only after Negotiations, will usually have others do the fighting for them, use of their own Use of Force as a last resort.

    Belief in the Fiqh Laws (Logic).

    Over the Centuries the Sunnis have become the Minority, since they are routinely killed off by the Shia (Shiites) ever since the start of Islam.

    MA-965167,

    Don't let Jonathan-1982062 fool you with his Taqiya. US Ally Sunnis Saudi Arabia is one of the Last US Allies in the Region, Jonathan-1982062, is just trying to undermine that as Jonathan-1982062 is a Fundamentalist Islamic Shia (Anti Sunnis). I used to correct him on his American English.

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    #3.2 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:16 PM EDT

    I know david will be posting some nonsense without knowing much about any thing!

    He will doing Netanyahus senseless dances!

      #3.3 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:31 AM EDT
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      Is this the same al-Qaida that the Nobel peace price winner, self-anointed, messiah of America (it is no longer the United States) vanquished because HE killed their leader, osama? Say it ain't so. This news story must be a conspiracy by George Bush to politicize the situation in an attempt to undermine the ONE.

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      Reply#4 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:01 AM EDT

      Yemen -once North and South- used to be the training grounds for terrorists- who wrecked havoc in Europe- Baader-Meinhof-Septyembre Noir/Rouge et al. Yemen was also the place where USS Cole was ambushed by suicide boaters in 2000- where Bin Laden's family originated from, Everything was mostly under control in Bush 43 administration- when Obama came into power-his policies undermined Saleh- AQAP (Al Qaeda in Arabian Peninsula) grew tremendously- consistent attacks week after week by terrorists against g'ment- the army/drone attacks killing some of them- but it is a very terrorism infected area-easy exit/entry-lawlessness. This attack happened in the town of Shuqra. No one ever asked Obama- why did he try to get rid of Saleh by any means available? Obama opened the door for the AQ terrorists for their co-ordinated attacks/mayhem/murder.

      e

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      Reply#5 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:30 AM EDT

      The latest- a day before there was a drone attack in Abyan province Jaar town killing 7 Al Qaeda terrorists including the local leader. The terrorist attack today at the Yemeni Army's 115th Brigade in Shaqra Base in Abyan Province (35 km south of Abyan capital) - 4 (four)terrorists dressed in army unforms with explosives laden suicide belts traveling in a military vehicle passed through several checkpoints. Upon reaching Shaqra Base gates- 2 soldiers killed there- the vehicle continued inside- then 3 out of the 4 terrorists exited the vehicle and 1 remaining inside blew himself up+ killing and injuring several army soldiers- soldiers finally shot 2 terrorists dead-explosions- 1 terrorist managed to escape by foot- there is a manhunt for him. There were 4 terrorists in army uniforms- no attack from sea. It is very easy for Al Qaeda terrorists to don real uniforms- whether in Yemen-Afghanistan-or elsewhere- also command military vehicles.

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      #5.1 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:07 AM EDT
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      Lets hear it for the results of Obama's peace plan the Middle East. Does anybody think what he has done has helped these poor people in any way.

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      Reply#6 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:09 AM EDT

      I am a retired Marine of 28 years and what I hear from some in not standing with the President or the Country, rather giving what is equivalent to aid and comfort to this nations enemies is despicable. Mitt Romney has done it previously and those who follow him are acting even worse. They and those perpetrating these acts are almost one and the same, enemy combatants or traitors.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#7 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:10 AM EDT

      You are of course entitled to your opinions however wrong they may be.

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      #7.1 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:28 AM EDT

      Right or wrong is a perception of the viewer. I come from a life in the military and view those who act disloyal in situations like this as someone that I would not only disrespect but outright loath.

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      #7.2 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:47 AM EDT

      Omega...we will stand with Obama when he stands with US!! His constant stream of apologies to OUR ENEMIES hardly constitutes a basis for TRUST from the people he was elected to SERVE. So, in your view, whatever the President does or says we have to stand with him???? Regardless of how Honest or INFORMED it is?? It is not disloyal to recognize that theis President has weakened this Country dramatically in the eyes of not only the most cowardly enemy we have, RADICAL ISLAM, but also in the eyes of our 2 Largets and Strongest ENEMIES , Russia and China. I really don't care what or who you "loathe" or dispespect . Your comments are unimportant, as I hear the same sort of comments everyday from the Dishonest and Destructive Liberal MSM and their Lemming "believers" who never "factcheck" ANYTHING. Souds like you come from the same ilk.

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      #7.3 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:12 AM EDT

      You keep trying to qualify your opinions with your military service, It does not, I served 2 tours in Viet Nam/South East Asia and while they may give me a unique perspective on life they do not make all of my views and opinions any more valid than someone who has not. Your views and opinions are just that, Views and opinions.

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      #7.4 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:16 AM EDT

      Amen.

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      #7.5 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:51 AM EDT

      But if there be truth why must you ignore it if it supports our Commander in Chief?

        #7.6 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:27 AM EDT

        Well thank you for your service, I to am retired military and find it a bit out of line to propose that if you do not stand in line with the President that you are a Traitor. Our President has intel that Alqida is alive and strong BUT yet chooses to tell the United States that the had of the snake is dead as if Alqida is dead. He lets political decisions choose his course. A True President and Commander and Chief will do what is needed for the boots on the ground regardless if it is the popular choice. This Commander has failed in that mission in every way. His only worry has been to keep his address at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

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        #7.7 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:31 AM EDT

        ALPHA-OMEGA,

        You are WORSE than an Islamic Jihadist as you will defend President Obama Wrong or Right to your Death.

        The US Military is NOT the USSR Military of Robots nor the WWII German NAZIs "Just Following Orders" nor the previous Iraqis Military with NO individual initiative as Orders Only Command Driven; which is why they were DEFEATED.

        US Military Officers are the Representatives of the US Citizens of the US Military (US Congressional US Military Officer's Commissioning Certificate), and the Representative on the Battlefield of the US Citizens and owe their Loyalty to the US Citizens via the US Constitution (US Military Officer's Oath of Public Office) and not to a Political Party; as part of the Checks and Balances to stop the US Politicians Abuse of Power using the US Military against US Citizens. It is also the Duty of a US Military Officer to inform the US Citizens after the US Politicians refuse to listen, especially to those matters that will result in the unnecessary deaths of US Citizens of the US Military and or Unconstitutional matters. These Checks and Balances were eliminated by President Obama's January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts (Plural US Laws) and 2012 NDAA that Eliminated Constitutional Rights.

        I have been in the US Military ever since the Selective Service, the start of the Volunteer US Military, Reductions In Forces of the US Military, till now; watched all the changes, while surviving all the Conflicts, UN Missions, Police Actions, Wars, etc.. Had many different Career Fields, Combat, Cush Desk Jobs, Combat even during the so called "Peacetime" US Military while the rest of the US Military was in the snackbars, had weekends off, etc., etc..

        Since the 1980s US Military Training Teams attached to the CIA's SAD/SOG to US Ally Iraq during the Iran Iraq Wars rotated to Operation Cyclone, of the almost thousand of us as US Military Asymmetric Warfare Middle East (Islam) Qualified Officers there are only a few of us that survived after deployments Worldwide usually for years of consecutive tours to the Middle East, Africa, Asia, South and Central Americas, etc..

        Of all those gains that were paid in our blood since the 1980s, President Obama's Policies, Actions and Inactions resulted in the Strategic Loss of All our gains Worldwide; President Obama's refusal to even listen to his experts of the US Military and US Intelligence Agencies that are risking their lives to get that expert knowledge.

        Since you don't know what is going on, blindly praising President Obama, Yemen was one of President Obama's Secret Wars as Outed by Senator Lieberman, because Yemen was not Budgeted For President Obama used previously not Budgeted For Discretionary Spending pissing off Senator Lieberman, so Senator Lieberman blabber mouths to the News Media.

        After being outed, no one really paid attention to Senator Lieberman; later on President Obama Officially Confirms we were at Yemen, when President Obama Confirmed our presence that went on Arabic Al Jazeera and resulted in our US Military Asymmetric Warfare Teams ending up with Bounties placed on our heads. So instead of just the Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada Yemen looking for us, we had the whole Nation of Yemen attempting to collect the Dead or Alive Bounties.

        After President Obama's Official Confirmation, later on we are withdrawn and sent back to Afghanistan, without our support President Saleh is Overthrown.

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        #7.8 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:51 PM EDT

        ALPHA-OMEGA,

        Redacted

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        #7.9 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:59 PM EDT
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        Bill H-1430012

        Lets hear it for the results of Obama's peace plan the Middle East. Does anybody think what he has done has helped these poor people in any way.

        It might just be that he has not started a war yet that has killed more than a million foriegn nationals, mostly innocent bystanders. Or that he thinks and consults and sets up a structure operation that gets results.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#8 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:27 AM EDT

        Still waiting on those results...

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        #8.1 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:29 AM EDT

        You are probably one of the those who fall into the profile mentioned and would not know results unless someone on a Fox venue told you.

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        #8.2 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:35 AM EDT

        ALPHA-OMEGA

        Lets hear it for the results of Obama's peace plan the Middle East. It might just be that he has not started a war yet that has killed more than a million foriegn nationals, mostly innocent bystanders. Or that he thinks and consults and sets up a structure operation that gets results.

        Results to date: Finished the Iraq troop withdrawal that began under Bush, US troops in Afghanistan rise from 33,000 in September 2008 to over 100,000 in 2009 (the surge) peaking in the spring of 2010, afghanistan surge ends in September 2012 (leaving over 60,000 troops still in afghanistan, Arab Spring, Benghazi, and Bin Laden

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        #8.3 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:42 AM EDT

        Alpha Omega, Retired; 28 years USMC

        I am a retired Marine of 28 years...

        Somehow, your ability to describe events, as the military tactician you purport to be It leaves much to be concerned about retrograde or in other words "advance to the rear". Any idea that the verbiage you utilize does not coincide with the views of the military, let alone, a retired US Marin?. Ever hear of that new law out called "stolen valor"?

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        #8.4 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:57 AM EDT

        denver bill 2 - Finished the Iraq troop withdrawal that began under Bush

        President Obama's Policies as seen as negotiating from a position of Defeat, especially by the Ayatollahs of Iran.

        The Islamic Shia Government of Iraq was pressured by the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, as No more Negotiations with President Obama nor SOS Clinton for the US Military to remain at the Islamic Nation of Iraq; the US MUST adhere to the President Bush Iraq Withdrawal Timetable.

        President Obama's own Executive Intelligence Agency warned President Obama about the Increasing Strategic Sphere of Influence of the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, President Obama ignored them, and refuses to withdraw his March 2009 Appeasement Policy pertaining to the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran.

        President Obama withdraws the US Military "Combat Forces" from Iraq and replaces them with US Military "Non Combat Forces" that were trained as Combat Forces. The Islamic Shia Government of Iraq does not buy that and demands the complete withdrawal of US Military. President Obama as Commander In Chief Orders the US Military to go to Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. 16,000 - 1,500 US Embassy Personnel remain to protect the 104 acre $1 Billion US Embassy at Iraq, that requires $1 Billion per year to operate, the US Military conducts Combat Patrols outside the wire to prevent snipers, mortar, rocket attacks.

        Basically the US Military was Kicked Out of the Islamic Shia Nation of Iraq due to President Obama's Policies.

        The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran demands that the Islamic Shia Government of Iraq negotiate with the Allies of the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, the Chinese and Russian Federation for the Iraqis Oil. The Iraqis Oil could have paid for the US and US Allies Liberation of Iraq with Decades to Centuries of Iraqis Oil. The Loss of Iraqis Oil makes the Libyan Oil of Strategic Importance to the US European Allies.

        While all this is going on, also due to President Obama's Policies, the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran increases their Quds (Special Forces) Funding, Training, Arming of the hundreds of thousands of Holy Warriors of Islam (Islamic Jihadists) at the Fundamentalist Islamic Autonomous Kurdistanis Region of Northern Iraq, Syria, Southern Turkey, Northwestern Iran. The hundreds of thousands of Holy Warriors of Islam (Islamic Jihadists) are being trained in Asymmetric Warfare to Overthrow the US Allies by starting Civil Wars, Revolutions, etc.. Some of those being trained are the Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban, Fundamentalist Islamic Muslim Brotherhood, Fundamentalist Islamic International Al Quada Franchises, Fundamentalist Islamic Hamas Foreign Fighters, Fundamentalist Islamic Chechen Foreign Fighters, Fundamentalist Islamic Al Sheebah, Fundamentalist Islamic Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, Fundamentalist Islamic Army of Islam Gaza, very long list from the US Department of State. The US Ally Turkey's Special Forces warn the US what is happening, President Obama ignores this.

        These Holy Warriors of Islam (Islamic Jihadists) are funded by Trillions USDs per year of Mandatory Islamic Tithes, usually a better life than scraping a stick in the ground to survive, as well as becoming a Superstar of Islam. These Funds are funnelled thru the "Non Established Financial Institutions" (term used by US Department of State) usually the Imams at the Mosques Worldwide.

        US Army Special Forces (Asymmetric Warfare) General McChrystal informs President Obama about the increased funding, arming and training of the Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban by the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, President Obama refuses to listen. General McChrystal tells the News Media, President Obama gives General McChrystal a Letter of Reprimand as a Violation of President Obama's Iran Policies. The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran finds out, and increases their Quds (Special Forces) Covert Activities and Iran's Overt Activities against the US and US Allies Worldwide as Fully Supported by the Chinese and Russian Federation.

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        #8.5 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:38 PM EDT
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        But But But....I thought Al Quaeda was on the run.

        • 4 votes
        Reply#9 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:31 AM EDT

        No they are not, you are in the drivers seat and they are riding with you.

          #9.1 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:37 AM EDT
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          The prez says he has them on the run.......they must have gone through Yemen. Another excuse to make this form of organized idiocy extinct.

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          Reply#10 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:40 AM EDT

          Are you willing to go after the enemy or just continue to assist them. I am sure that they have some english language propaganda that you can put on the web or do you have your own?

          • 1 vote
          #10.1 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:54 AM EDT
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          Reuters, along with NBC, sure go a long way to avoid using the word "TERRORISM"..

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          Reply#11 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:55 AM EDT

          "Just another bump in the road."

          • 3 votes
          Reply#12 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:03 AM EDT

          For the life of me I do not understand how we can have people killed and it being used only to attack our current President. How low can these people go before they realize what they have become?

          • 1 vote
          Reply#13 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:05 AM EDT

          Omega...your ignorant unfounded diatribes are boring and ridiculous....move on, Lemming Troll....your next Cliff awaits you.

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          #13.1 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:14 AM EDT

          The name is wrong, it is spelled Moderate in madison adiffinate misnomer

            #13.2 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:18 AM EDT

            I am assuming that you are not low enough yet?

              #13.3 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:20 AM EDT

              Omega..."For the life of me I do not understand how we can have people killed and it being used only to attack our current President. How low can these people go before they realize what they have become?"

              Because you, like your President, are a FRAUD??? Ex-Military my azz.......6 month Reserve Duty Drills in the local Armory most likely. Which is still Patriotic.

              • 3 votes
              #13.4 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:20 AM EDT

              Omega ....1.) The name is correct and accurate. Except to a flaming Liberal who never takes the Blinders off, or sees 2 sides of anything, and 2.) Not low enough to continue discourse with a survivor of Lobotomy.

              • 3 votes
              #13.5 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:25 AM EDT

              Great Call Moderate in Madison

              See my comment re Omega on #8.4 - TROLL is an accurate descriptor

              Jack

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              #13.6 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:03 AM EDT

              Saw it...that message meets with my approval.

              • 3 votes
              #13.7 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:06 AM EDT
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              The entire nation stood with FDR after Pearl.

              The entire nation stood with Bush after 9/11

              The entire... oops! 75% stood with Obama after *anything*.

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              Reply#14 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:16 AM EDT

              Oops...51%

              • 3 votes
              #14.1 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:21 AM EDT

              The entire nation stood with FDR after Pearl.

              The entire nation stood with Bush after 9/11

              The entire... oops! 75% stood with Obama after *anything*.

              WWII was a much different time

              After 9/11 the entire nation stood together Bush just happened to be President, The same thing happened after the first WTC bombing under Clinton and the Oklahoma City Bombing, I however remember being spit on and called murderer when I returned home from Viet Nam, LBJ sent me there yet he was never spit on or called a murderer , Kind of ironic isn't it.

              Obama has divided this nation not united it, While I commend President Obama for some of his accomplishements I feel he has fallen short of what was needed to get our country back on the right track.

              Your 75% figure is a bit off also, Latest Gallup polls show Romney 52% Obama 45%

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              #14.2 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:30 AM EDT

              Sorry but it is 75% (plus) on this, contray to your belief their is not that many racists or bigots in this country and most of those according to my old lady are over 45.

              If the year was 1950 you might have been right but we have come a long way since then and the main reason has been the United State Millitary.

                #14.3 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:40 AM EDT

                Sorry but it is 75% (plus) on this, contray to your belief their is not that many racists or bigots in this country and most of those according to my old lady are over 45.

                So out comes the race card, Disagreeing with Obama has nothing to do with race, It has to do with politics.

                FYI if 75% of the populace supported Obama then why is he even out campaigning.

                • 3 votes
                #14.4 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:12 AM EDT

                The race card is no longer valid, the black people got their ultimate 'affirmative action' appointment and now all people need to be judged by their abilities and accomplishments, NOT the color of their skin.

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                #14.5 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:12 AM EDT
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                Our problen in the area is oil and greed.

                They have the oil. We have the greed.

                When we are willing to pay for it instead of looking like we are ready to take it...

                When we are willing to stay out of their lives they will stay out of ours.

                How often do they attack Mexico?

                  Reply#15 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:35 AM EDT

                  Yup, Al Queda is "back on it's heels"... "they are on the run", "they are broken", These are the comments our President made with all of his..."We want to make sure that we get the information right!" He obviously hasn't gotten this right, or much of anything else... to have him call Govenor Romney a liar, is akin to , well... "The pot calling the kettle black"... and I am truly disturbed if anyone thinks "That" is a racist statement... Move On... just like the .org.... just Move On!

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#16 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:40 AM EDT

                  You doth paint thyself but you are aware of that.

                  • 1 vote
                  #16.1 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:49 AM EDT

                  Governor Romney is not a lier, he just says what the GOP wants him to say and those are lies.

                  • 1 vote
                  #16.2 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:53 AM EDT
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                  Time to eat, will return when a different class of bloggers show up, anyway I have probably been conversing with only one or two with different log ons. Either that or clones. Clone trolls, I bet that would give both Chris Mathews and Chris Wallace a thrill up their leg!

                    Reply#17 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:00 AM EDT

                    Don't rush back...go eat your Crow and Liberal Bullschit slowly...Hard to force it down, isn't it???? BTW, Only Obozo knows how to put that pussy matthews into a shiver.....just looks at him and his knees turn to jelly!!! ROFLMFAO!!!!

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                    #17.1 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:07 AM EDT
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                    Four years of doing nothing by a radical muslim president is taking it's toll. He hates our military and this country if truth be known!

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                    Reply#18 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:13 AM EDT

                    Two words come to mind when you talk about the Middle East. (Cluster F%#K) The other two words that come to mind with the way the war on Terror is being handled. (Circle Jerk)

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                    Reply#19 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:35 AM EDT

                    So now we're playing video drone warfare over Yemen too. When will it stop? We're going to terrorize the whole world with our drones until the Russians and Chinese think they're going to be next, and then we will have accomplished exactly what the military-industrial complex has been praying for - World War 111.

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                    Reply#20 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:46 AM EDT

                    Coming to a country near you soon! Oops! Already here!

                      #20.1 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:51 AM EDT

                      World war One Hundred Eleven???????

                      WOW! We missed 108 of them?

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                      #20.2 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:13 AM EDT
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                      Does anyone else see the irony in someone using the screen name "Alpha-Omega", translation, "First-Last" defending Obama so vociferously?

                      Alpha-Omega, in case you have not noticed or been reading any other news, the United States has its own oil supply if people would get out of the way and let the drillers go for it! Or are you one of the NIMBY people? Have you noticed that there are oil drilling rigs outside of the US Territorial waters that are not owned by US Corporations and do not follow US regulations?

                      From the UCMJ--Inference of lawfulness. A order requiring the performance of a military duty or act may be inferred to be lawful and it is disobeyed at the peril of the subordinate. This inference does not apply to a patently illegal order, such as one that directs the commission of a crime. When was war declared on Yemen that would allow the use of US deadly force against a "non-enemy combatant". If you have no declaration of hostilities (use of the word "WAR" has not been deemed a necessary requirement), how can you have an enemy combatant?

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                      Reply#21 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:04 AM EDT

                      No worries! Obama will apologize for something, and it'll be all good again.

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                      Reply#22 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:11 AM EDT

                      Did President Obama end the "combat mission" in Iraq or fail to negotiate an extension of our military presence? Did President Obama plan the end of the war in Afghanistan or let our enemies know our intentions? Did President Obama announce the killing of Bin Laden or jeopardize any intelligence we could have developed? Did President Obama free the Libyan people or the armaments of Ghadafi? Did President Obama facilitate the exit of Mubarak or the arrival of the Musli

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                      Reply#23 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:19 AM EDT

                      See post #8.5 about Iraq.

                      Libya:

                      Without disclosing Classified (information withheld from US Public):

                      Life during President Gaddaffi, contract with Libyan Citizens in his "Green Book":Loans to Libyan citizens were given with "NO interest". Students would get paid the average salary for the profession they are studying for. If you’d be unable to get the employment the state would pay the full salary as if you were employed. When you got married the couple got an apartment or house for free. You could go to college anywhere in the world, the state paid 2,500 euros plus for accommodation and a car. The cars were sold at factory cost. Libya does not owe money, (not a cent) to anyone, No credits. Free education and health care. 25% of population with a university degree. No beggars on the streets and no homeless. Bread costs $0.15. Gasoline $0.33 per liter, during the attacks $0.66 per liter. All this disappeared after the Overthrow of President Gaddaffi.

                      President Gaddaffi and Libya as a US Ally, to get the President Bush US and UN Sanctions and Embargoes lifted so he would ship Libyan Oil to the US European Allies:Collaborated with the CIA. President Gaddaffi had his Libyan Military hunting the Islamic Jihadists at Libya. Stopped his pursuit of Nuclear Power. Turned over his Chemical Weapons to the US. Transfer of US Islamic Jihadists Prisoners from Guantanamo to President Gaddaffi's Prisons (including later President Obama's). Human Rights and Libyan Citizen's Rights as praised by the UN and UA (African Union).

                      The Fundamentalist Islamic Arab League of Nations demanded President Gaddaffi's Death for Collaborating with the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers, a Death Penalty Fatawa is issued.

                      Most of the work that the Libyan Citizens do not want to do are done by Foreigners brought into Libya, and have no Libyan Citizens Rights nor the Libyan Citizens Entitlements listed in President Gaddaffi's Green Book.

                      The Holy Warriors of Islam (aka Islamic Jihadists) are gathering at Libya, after the Overthrow of US Ally Egypt. Many Intelligence Agencies are stating that these Islamic Jihadists are the Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada Saudi Arabia (AQ), Al Quada Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Al Quada Syria (AQS), Al Quada Yemen (AQY), Hezbollah, Al Quada Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), etc. as trained by the Quds Special Forces of the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran at the Fundamentalist Islamic Autonomous Kurdistanis Region of Northern Iraq, Syria, Southern Turkey, and Northwestern Iran to Overthrow the Established Governments of US Allies.

                      President Gaddaffi warns everyone about the Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadists gathering at Libya, President Gaddaffi's Military starts to fight them. President Obama ignores this just like he ignored US Ally Iraq, US Ally Egypt, US Ally Saudi Arabia, US Ally Turkey, US Ally Pakistan, President of Syria, etc. until it was too late.

                      President Gaddaffi f**ks up, declares Libyan Oil Nationalization. Due to President Obama's Policies the US and US Allies have lost the Iraqis Oil, this makes the Libyan Oil of Strategic Importance to the US European Allies.

                      Why Benghazi:Thousands of Islamic Jihadists flood into Benghazi with the Asymmetric Warfare intent of killing the Libyan Military Guards, seizing the weapons, ammunition at the the 60 bunker Hight Razma facility on the eastern outskirts of Benghazi and a 35 bunker facility on the eastern outskirts of Ajdabiyah." The term "bunkers" is a misnomer as some of these "bunkers" were the size of warehouses. After the Libyan Military Guards were massacred at these Libyan Munitions Depots, the Facilities were left unguarded. This is how about 20,000 shoulder launched portable SA-7 anti aircraft missiles ended up "missing"; believed to be currently in the hands of Al Quada and the rest of the Islamic Terrorists (Jihadist, Worldwide Islamic Military), possible use shoot down US and US Ally Commercial Airlines (Aircraft) worldwide (after all the other publicly known failed attempts); most US Military and US Ally Military Aircraft have detection and countermeasures (some are still shot down by SA-7s, mistaken for RPGs (similar warhead). ). Then inciting the Foreign Workers brought into Libya to demand Libyan Citizens Rights and Entitlements.

                      President Gaddaffi sends his Libyan Military to fight the Islamic Jihadists and Foreign Worker Protesters and Demonstrators gone violent (murdered Libyan Military).

                      President Obama then claims that President Gaddaffi is a "Dictator Killing his own people" (not Gaddaffi's own Libyan Citizens but Islamic Jihadists).

                      President Gaddaffi orders the Foreign Workers to leave his Country, most do not and actively join the Islamic Jihad to Overthrow President Gaddaffi the Collaborator to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers; again the Fundamentalist Islamic Arab League of Nations demands the Overthrow of President Gaddaffi.

                      The Libyan Oil, after the US and US Allies Loss of the Iraqis Oil due to President Obama's Policies:

                      During the "G" Meeting at France, that was attended by SOS Clinton, the European Oil Corporations Lobby the European Politicians to Overthrow President Gaddaffi to stop his Libyan Oil Nationalization (majority of Profits remain in Libya).

                      These European Oil Corporations demand President Gaddaffi's Overthrow to stop his Libyan Oil Nationalization: BP (Britain), Total, Elf (France), Eni (Italy), OMV (Austria), Statoil (Norway), etc.. So instead of these European Oil Corporations hiring cheap Libyan Labor then keeping all the Profits, with Gaddaffi's Resource Nationalization, they would get almost nothing and the majority of the profits would remain in Libya. So in anticipation of their Governments Military Actions to Overthrow Gaddaffi to stop his Resource Nationalization, "Non essential" personnel were evacuated February 21, 2011.

                      US Army Special Forces LTC Woods and his Specialized Support Teams are at Libya since February. It is Routine to attach US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces to the CIA's SAD/SOG to conduct Targeting and Target Damage Assessments to minimize Civilian Casualties during Airstrikes and Cruise Missile Attacks. The US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces Missions are routinely Special Reconnaissance, Special Surveillance, Foreign Internal Defense, Insurgency (training the locals to Overthrow a Established Government), Counter Insurgency (stop others from Overthrowing a US Ally's Established Government), etc..

                      President Obama as Commander In Chief Orders the US Military to attack Libya in violation of the US Law that Restricts or Limits the Presidential War Powers, US Law, 1973 War Powers Resolution (Act). President Obama failed to notify both Houses of US Congress 48 hours prior to ANY US Military Actions. US Congress does not have time to write a US Law with US Congressional Appropriations, like they did for President Clinton (42) and President Bush (43). President Obama uses not previously Budgeted for Discretionary Spending including to fund NATO's Bombs, Fuel, Cruise Missiles, etc.. Afterwards on behalf of President Obama SOS Clinton apologizes to US Congress, "I'm sorry".

                      The Results: President Gaddaffi is murdered. Most of the Libyan Citizens that benefited as President Gaddaffi Supporters flee Libya (See Life During President Gaddaffi above). The Islamic Jihadists get another Islamic Nation. Mediterranean Ports closer to attack the US European Allies aka Crusaders. US European Allies lose the Libyan Oil to the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Ally, the Chinese. 20,000 portable shoulder launched anti aircraft SA-7 missiles end up in the hands of the Islamic Jihadists with their stated goal of shooting down US Civilian Airlines "to cripple the US Economy". Strategic Location for the Islamic Jihadists to get the other African Nations, just like Egypt was key to get Libya.

                      The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group were those Islamic Jihadist Foreign Fighters that were killing US Military at Iraq, they become the Government of Libya.

                      Ansar Al Sharia is formed from the Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada Saudi Arabia (AQ), Al Quada Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Al Quada Syria (AQS), Al Quada Yemen (AQY), Hezbollah, Al Quada Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), to protect and instate Fundamentalist Islamic Shia (Sharia) Law as the Rule of Law for the Islamic Nation of Libya.

                      US Army Special Forces LTC Woods creates a Report pertaining to the Security of the US Diplomatic Mission at Libya. Depending on who he and his US Army Special Forces Specialized Support Teams are attached or assigned to this goes thru many distinct Reporting Channels, usually directly to the Top (President of the US). The First being as assigned to the President's Executive Intelligence Agency, the CIA, included in the Daily Presidential Intelligence Report; Second, the US Department of State, US Ambassador gets copy, SOS Clinton gets copy, then the US President. Third, copy to the Joint Chiefs of Staff, US Secretary of Defense, then to US President. US Ambassador is a Presidential Appointee, with Direct Access to the US President.

                      Ask yourselves this question, what was so important that that US Ambassador Stevens left the safety of the US Embassy at Tripoli to go to the US Consulate at Benghazi. As most of the personnel had already left and were at the Airport.

                      Afghanistan: President Obama has negotiated with President Karzai for the US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces to remain at Afghanistan for Decades after the US Military Conventional Warfare Forces abandon US Ally Afghanistan 2014. This leaves the US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces without the necessary Support of the US Military Conventional Warfare Forces.

                      The US lost the High Tech Mineral Wealth of Afghanistan, due to President Obama's Policies, to the Chinese, China Metallurgical Group. These High Tech Minerals are required for the current US High Tech Standard of Living and the Future US Alternative Energy. The Chinese place Restrictions on the Shipments of High Tech Minerals to the US and US Allies. This gives the Chinese the opportunity for all US And US Allies High Tech to only be Made In China, and China "Adopting" (stealing) the US and US Allies High Tech without China spending on R&D, new manufacturing processes, etc..

                      Unclassified: Osama Bin Laden. All electronic communications were being monitored, so Osama Bin Laden was using Couriers to relay information and orders to the Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada Operations Officer. This allowed the US to identify and terminate each of the Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada Operations Officers one after another. The Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada Operations Officer gathers Funding, coordinates Operations of the Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada International Franchises Worldwide, Plans Operations, etc..

                      The Original Operation Neptune Spear as planned by General McChrystal, Admiral McRaven, Director of the CIA delegated to his SAD/SOG, with input from the US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces, was to locate and capture Osama Bin Laden. After President Bush Amended the US No Assassination Policy in 2006 allowing the Termination of Osama Bin Laden; if the Mission to Locate and Capture Osama Bin Laden Failed, then Termination was Authorized if Osama Bin Laden could not be Captured. Capturing Osama Bin Laden was absolutely necessary to determine his thought processes, planning processes and procedures, etc. that he had imprinted on his subordinates; in order for the US Military and US Intelligence Agencies to be able to interdict any possible Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada International Franchises Activities.

                      Egypt: US Ally President Murbarak warned President Obama about the increased activities of Islamic Jihadists, and President Obama ignored him. The Fundamentalist Islamic Muslim Brotherhood as trained by the Quds (Special Forces) of the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran to Overthrow US Allies Established Governments negotiate with the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran before the Egyptian Revolution. US Ally Egypt is Key to get Former US Ally Libya, as the Islamic Jihadists can stage and organize at Egypt before going into Libya and if attacked at Libya they can go back into Egypt and regroup, Libya is Key to the rest of Africa. The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran gains Strategic Access to the Suez Canal, unconfirmed that the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran is mobilizing their 21st Century Long Range Land Based Hypersonic and Supersonic Anti Ship Missile Batteries, 21st Century Intergrated Anti Aircraft Missile Batteries (same type that detected the latest US Stealth RQ-170), to be able to close the Suez Canal; as they are more than capable of doing to the Strait of Hormuz (Iran learned from their mistakes during the Iran Iraq Wars, the US And US Allies did not) while allowing their Allies thru, and seizing any US or US Allies Ships. US and US Allies would have to go the long way around Africa. Closer Logistics to support the Fundamentalist Islamic Army of Islam Gaza, the Fundamentalist Islamic Hamas Warlords, Fundamentalist Islamic Hezbollah, etc.. Closer Locations to Attack US Ally Israel. Strategic Mediterranean Ports.

                      M.J. - CT any other Questions.

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                      #23.1 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:56 PM EDT
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                      God save king obama. The alternative is that clown prince vp biden becomes president. The guy who thinks his son is serving in IRAN. uggghhh.

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                      Reply#24 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:34 AM EDT

                      We do have our enemies..

                      Our enemies want to weaken and defeat us.

                      Our enemies are willing to kill and die so that we all will die.

                      Just like the Senate and Congress personal ideals and goals drive the divide between people continuing to ruin the world. Power and corruption at it's finest. It's not about WIN-WIN. Seems to me how do you win and get the other guy to lose to you.

                      There is to much hatred and lack of respect. So many people have lost their common sense and desire to get along.

                      During these times it won't matter who is our elected President. The hatred in the world runs so very deep.

                      Almost seems that civilization has reached it's peak not so far in the distant past. The governments of the western world have failed to keep their ecomonys growing and manageable because of reckless ways. The Eastern world governments seem to want to live in the ways of the anceint past.

                      The world we live in because of technoligy and advances in science is so (small) close that most anyone can go anywhere in a day if they want. Governments can simply shoot missles and hit their targets from hundreds or even thousands of miles away within minutes or hours.

                      I guess to sum it up.

                      We (Humans) still have our tribal ways. Perhaps mankind never really evolved or became as civilized as we could have.

                      It pains me to see and hear what is happening throughout this world still to this day.

                      All I can say is I never killed anyone and I don't ever want to either. If you are reading this here and are anything like me I think you might be sadend too by all this crap.

                      I don't give up on my hope or faith in God that somehow this will work out. I don't see and end through and certinly it's not the beginning. If only everyone in the world WOULD NOT PICK UP ARMS OR WEAPONS and do the things that are being done with them maybe then we would only expierence the changes necessary to get along.

                      I would walk a mile, give the shirt of my back, even sell my soul if I could fix what is wrong with mankind.

                      The nature of man. To think there are those who actually believe humans are supiereor to all that live on the earth. Without humility and respect humans will not be able to continue and nature will take it's course. It's only a matter of time.

                      Generally man has only exploited the earth for his own selfessness and greed. The earth in places is naturally hostile. Mankind has found the ways to make safe viable places on earth hostile. The earth is round yet somehow humans live on it like it is a box and square. Humans are painting their way into the corners of the box and get their backs against the walls inside the box having to face each others differences and wind up hating each other because the don't want to live the way the other one lives when their back is up against the wall of the box which they built for themselves. The worlds IS round. When will we learn to go round and round with the world and enjoy and respect each other and the world for what it is. (Our home to live) (Not the home we own) There are so many who live on this earth who Kill or bring harm to another (JUST) because we can doesn't make sense to me.

                      I do not support going to war over anything. I DO NOT BELIEVE IN JUST WARS. When I was thinking about joining the military and going to Vietnam I ask my Father and Grand Father about the wars of which they both served. They were enlisted men. I asked them why they went in to fight. There answer kind of suprised me and it took awhile for me to get it. They both said SO YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO. War is terrible.

                      I did not enlist because of their comment. I felt they fought for me so I would never have to fight and I wasn't even born yet when they were fighting. I was fortunite I was not drafted and the Vietnam war ended.

                      I believe war can be prevented and there is a better way to live and die. For the people who do serve our United Staes military I want to thank them and give all my respect. Without them who knows how the world would be.

                      I think mostly the leaders of the world can govern it's own countrys. Where I see mostly the problem and almost every country faces the same issue is the REBEL and Terrorist actions taken by a few who want the power and influence to control others and change destiny.

                      That Destiny. I think is NOT to live in peace and do things for change of betterment in UNPEACEFUL ways.

                      There is much in opinion I differ with. Even things which I hate. Yet I never found it within MYSELF that I wanted to kill or bring harm to another person to be better to make the world a better place.

                      I will end with this. MAKE NO MISTAKE.

                      WE LIVE IN A THERMO NUCLEAR AGE. THERMO NUCLEAR WEAPONS CAN DESTROY NATIONS.

                        Reply#25 - Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:35 AM EDT
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