This little girl is gonna be a symbol for how bad the Taliban is...and how bad Islam religion is. Muslim men like them are weak, stupid, uneducated, jobless and uninformed...they only power they have is over their women...What kind of men are they? They beat them and don't want them to get ahead. But they don't mind have sex with them to procreate another generation of weak, stupid, uneducated, jobless and uninformed generation...Hurray of Allah and Islam. Backward and stupid religion is all this proves.

Jeanine, if you had stopped at your first sentence, you would have had a great post. But you ruined it with everything after the first ellipses.

The Taliban are bullies with guns, bombs and knives, but they do not represent that entire demographic for that region. That would be called stereotyping.

On Another note, re: the Blagladesh potential bomber of the Federal Bank in NY....why why why do we let more Muslims into this country as "students?" We all know they are only here to do us harm..He was supposed to be at some school in Missouri? Guess he missed a few classes now don't we? Doesn't anyone working for the Patriot Act follow up on these criminals? They are too busy following around true AMERICANS...instead of the so-called "students." We should not LET ANYMORE MUSLIMS INTO THIS COUNTRY FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER. THE END.

Janine, your prejudice clouds your judgment! Perhaps you should visit a mosque and speak with an Imam before you cast out all Muslims and the Islamic faith. God forbid you have a medical emergency but your life could be saved by a physician who comes from North Africa or the Middleast who trained here. Then upon waking up you might see the light. Before then perhaps you should get a bit of education so that the hate speech you use is tempered with reason!

Jeanine, you are, for want of a better word, an idiot. It's not the religion-it's the radical @!$%#s who use the religion and take passages from the Koran and "TWIST" it to suit their thirst for killing. They are not true followers of Islam, as Islam is a peaceful religion. What religion are you? How about we keep people like you out of this country and not "LET ANYMORE OF YOU INTO OUR COUNTRY FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER. THE END."

Lana,

Alhumdolelah......well put.

And for all those stating the Islamic religion not being a good religion, and Muslim men are bad as well, remember this young lady herself is Muslim, as well as I . I'm born American and glad to be both an American citizen and a Muslim. Please don't judge all by a minority amount.

This little girl is gonna be a symbol for how bad the Taliban is...and how bad Islam religion is

You don't believe she is a muslim herself then?

Its tough to move foward in this world with people like Jeanine! It is this hatred and mis-informed confusion that has people like her in this state of fear!

As we (most of us anyway) are aware of propaganda, it is a useful tool to create fear for support of war! Remember Reagan once said of the Taliban, "These men are the equivelant of our founding fathers". Remember we were friends and supported Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi (not sure of the spelling), among others that were now murdered!

Jeanine, aside from getting caught in action, your very words are obviously full of hate which may lead you to terrorize someone one day! Will you be ok with brandishing everyone like you a terrorist?

Remember while the Taliban shot this girl....and yes, she can now walk. But dont forget Obama has sent drones that has killed over 300 children with these drone strikes...they cannot walk! Bush has droned a bit less in his eight years, but nonetheless, he has killed children too! No, the Taliban is not excused at all...this is horrible. But we tend to look ONLY at certain things and not the whole scope of it all. Yes the Taliban shot this girl....bad! The US has killed hundreds of children...but you mention nothing of this! Biased a bit?

robo, for want of a better word you are also an idiot. Do you know anything about the "Dark Ages"? That's when the "radical" Catholics in the Vatican decided that all peoples cannot have an education. The Vatican took all the books and locked them away so no one could use them to educate themselves etc. There was that time when rarely anyone could get an education so most people in a couple of countries were 'NOT ALLOWED to go to school. Thus "DARK AGES" as people were kept in the Dark about the world they lived in.

Fergie said;

It's not the religion-it's the radical @!$%#s who use the religion and take passages from the Koran and "TWIST" it to suit their thirst for killing.

Exactly!

It's what you do that matters, not whose Name you do it in.

The dark ages refers to a small area of the world in comparison to one billion Muslims. Your holy book advocates violence and was written by a violent prophet. True not all Muslims are evil, but it is a tenant of the Koran to want to rule the world under Islamic law. There are millions of Muslims that would whole heartedly disagree with; Sheri, Lana, Fergieo, Cheryl, and Mquira. It would appear to be all women. Where are the posts from your men.

Malala ... you are our most precious of heroes, the one that shines most true, most clear and most enduring for all of us - the World-over.

Those who pathetically tried to silent you are desperately aware of the limited time they have.

Yes, the US may have killed some innocent people UNINTENTIONALLY, trying to protect us from those that will harm innocents. The big difference is that the US does not go in and point-blank shoot school girls for advocating and speaking up for girls education. The US is in this to protect US citizens from another bombing or 9/11. Now who do you think is killing the most innocent people, and for what reason. Is it to protect their citizens from terrorists, or to terrorize them? I work with some lovely Muslim people whom I adore and I worry for their families back home. My friends are all wonderful, peaceful, sweet people. I do know the difference between the terrorists and the people. Most are just regular people who want to get on with their lives, like we do, and raise their families the best they can without worrying about the terrorists.

So true once again Amanda, and I hope that more people realize the truth in what you say.... Did you read the article about the Americans who traveled there to protest the drone attacks.... To me that was so brave of them to take on such issues....

I'll say it once more: For every Muslim you kill, you will gain 10 enemies....

And there are 6.7 Muslims to every American....

Men do things to men and God has nothing to with it....

These extremists are murderers, plain and simple. If there was no Islam, they would find other excuses to commit murders. I look at Malala, and eventho I know they tried to murder her, I still can't imagine how someone can do something like that.

God bless courageous and beautiful Malala, and her family and supporters as well.

Malala is a symbol of strength and a new beginning in a world without the Taliban and other extremist terrorists. This child had the courage and strength to stand up to some of the worst murderers in our world. If she can do this, why cannot we all?

This girl is an INSPIRATION! The lives of 100 Taliban cowards does not have the value of one of her toenails.

Hopefully Her survival will further shame them for decades. How long can the Afghani and Pakistani people tolerate such delusional and evil thugs?? YOU GO MALALA GIRL!!! Hang in there and Be Strong!

Bullet171,

My man is reading my posts................he's proud I have rights and voice my opinion. And BTW, Jeanine 2246384, you are wrong about the folks in Bangladesh....I've been there twice and the folks are embracing. And to educate you more, I was Christian when I was there and there was nothing but respect for me. Again, one shouldn't be judged by another. The majority of all Muslim counties have peaceful citizens living there. they too are governed by greedy politicians who orchestrate situations world wide where their pockets grow and the majority of the world's population is supressed.

Fergieo-1777987 - You sure are free about calling people idiots. What is your problem? You don't believe in the right to say what you want to or are Dumba## Muslim? Don't like what I call you? Then think, if you have half a brain before you speak and call others names. I know I will be blasted for calling you out on this, but someone has to stand up and inform you that what you are doing (name calling) is WRONG.

you are wrong about the folks in Bangladesh....

Do you know what happened to the people of Bangladesh ?(open it and see,warning disturbing photos)

“…… we were told to kill the hindus and Kafirs (non-believer in God). One day in June, we cordoned a village and were ordered to kill the Kafirs in that area. We found all the village women reciting from the Holy Quran, and the men holding special congregational prayers seeking God’s mercy. But they were unlucky. Our commanding officer ordered us not to waste any time.”

Confession of a Pakistani Soldier

It all started with Operation Searchlight, a planned military pacification carried out by the Pakistan Army started on 25 March, 1971 to curb the Bengali nationalist movement by taking control of the major cities on March 26, and then eliminating all opposition, political or military, within one month. Before the beginning of the operation, all foreign journalists were systematically deported from Bangladesh. The main phase of Operation Searchlight ended with the fall of the last major town in Bengali hands in mid May.

According to New York Times (3/28/71) 10,000 people were killed; New York Times (3/29/71) 5,000-7,000 people were killed in Dhaka; The Sydney Morning Herald (3/29/71) 10,000 – 100,000 were killed; New York Times (4/1/71) 35,000 were killed in Dhaka during operation searchlight.

The operation also began the 1971 Bangladesh atrocities. These systematic killings served only to enrage the Bengalis, which ultimately resulted in the secession of East Pakistan later in December, 1971. The international media and reference books in English have published casualty figures which vary greatly; 200,000–3,000,000 for Bangladesh as a whole.

There is only one word for this: Genocide.

Genocide in Bangladesh, 1971

The mass killings in Bangladesh (then East Pakistan) in 1971 vie with the annihilation of the Soviet POWs, the holocaust against the Jews, and the genocide in Rwanda as the most concentrated act of genocide in the twentieth century. In an attempt to crush forces seeking independence for East Pakistan, the West Pakistani military regime unleashed a systematic campaign of mass murder which aimed at killing millions of Bengalis, and likely succeeded in doing so.

Bullet171 said:

Your holy book advocates violence and was written by a violent prophet. True not all Muslims are evil, but it is a tenant of the Koran to want to rule the world under Islamic law.

True - just as it is a tenant of Christian faith that Christians, through Christ, expect to rule the world under what passes for Christian law. The Bible advocates violence and was written by violent men as well. But we don't expel all Christians from our shores.

I'm glad Malala is doing well. Hate can't stop truth.

Speaking of truth, isn't it amazing that this badly injured girl is recovering so well in one of those "socialist" British medical insitutions?

To hear the right tell it, everyone who gets medical care in a socialized country is wait-listed until they die.

Guess that's NOT the truth.

- just as it is a tenant of Christian faith that Christians, through Christ, expect to rule the world under what passes for Christian law

Do you have a link supporting your "Christianophobia"? a verse, anything?

Got a link to Christian law? I can link "the reliance of the traveller" Sharia law.

Where,(Nation or state) has this "Christian Law" been practiced in the past, and who calling for it's implementation now?

kpr37 - try most of the American South.

So, you have no link, and irrationally hate Christians?

KPR,

Open a history book and you will find your "link." History is full of atrocities performed in the name of god or gods. Every religion has the final goal of total conversion. There was a time when christians ruled Europe unchecked.....it's called the dark ages. I don't hate christians, but I am smart enough to realize that ALL religions have the potential to kill, maim, and destroy in the name of their "belief."

Christians have no room to criticize otther religions. They are all the same.

kpr said;

Where, (Nation or state) has this "Christian Law" been practiced in the past, and who calling for it's implementation now?

The majority of Christians (and Jews and Muslims) consider homosexuals an 'abomination' and that has been written into the laws of our country to deny certain married couples equal protection and consideration under the US's supposedly secular laws. Wiccans have a sect for the lesbians (the Dianic Wiccans) and for the gays (the Minoan Brotherhood) and our priests and priestesses can marry whoever chooses to commit to celebrating the Goddess's gift of pleasure only with each other. But when the US Government refuses to grant such couples acknowledgement and equality under the US's supposedly secular laws, that is a infringement upon their 1st Amendment right to practice their religion as they so choose.

There are also sects of Christianity who do perform same-gender marriages--the Unitarian Church I pass on the bus going to work has a banner outside that says 'Civil marriage is a Civil right' and they have held same-gender marriages there. To grant heterosexual Unitarians rights and privileges and freedoms that are denied homosexual Unitarians is clearly unconstitutional under our laws.

This country was founded on separation of church and state. It's actually done really well except in this one instance.

Still waiting on links, supporting evidence.

Here is what I said. Try answering that, before you answer a made up questions, or make statements that are unsupported as well.

Do you have a link supporting your "Christianophobia"? a verse, anything?

Got a link to Christian law? I can link "the reliance of the traveller" Sharia law.

Where,(Nation or state) has this "Christian Law" been practiced in the past, and who calling for it's implementation now?

That was my post.

waiting for links.

But when the US Government refuses to grant such couples acknowledgement and equality under the US's supposedly secular laws

In the west, we debate if we should change the thousands of year old, definition of the word "marriage".

In Islamic nations they debate the proper way to kill homosexuals

Written by an Islamic scholar in the Nigerian tribune.

From the aforementioned verses of the Quran, it is obvious that Allah destroyed the first set of people to embark on this act by turning their towns upside down while they were thereafter pelted with stones.Since this act is one of the most criminal acts in Islam, equally its punishment is one of the greatest. All Muslim scholars agreed that death is the basic judgement such individuals deserve. This is in line with the saying of Prophet Muhammad as reported by Ibn Abbas: “If anyone is caught committing the act of the people of Lut, kill both the committer and the person with whom the act is committed” (Abu Dawud).

However, there is a divergence of opinions on the methodology to be used in executing the punishment. While some scholars such as Abu bakr and Ali were of the view that such a person should be beheaded and set on fire thereafter,

I"m going to call be-heading, and then burning the body, excessive to the point of sadistic. (EVIL)

Umar and Uthman thought the wall should be fell on him.

The Taliban used this method in it's execution of homosexuals

To Ibn Abbas, he should be taken to the tallest building in the town, thrown upside down while some men stand on the ground waiting to meet him with stone in replication of the destruction done to the people of Lut by Allah.

I can find no redeeming value, in this religious "aid, or guide, to society" known as sharia law.

http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/eyes-of-islam/33905-homosexuality-the-islamic-viewpoint-2

Calling for the murder of people over their sexual preference, is different that thinking a "civil union", is better or the equivalent, of Gay marriage in American political discourse.reality, it's out there, please try to grasp it

Silicon Valley Sharia In San Francisco they endorse books calling for the death of homosexuals. How can this be ?

I really don't get it.

Presumably, the Muslim Community Association(MCA) of the San Francisco Bay Area would serve as the stewards of such a perspective. Billing itself as "one of the largest Muslim communities in the US," the MCA proudly proclaims that its members are "well-educated, well-traveled, and earn higher than average incomes in the San Francisco Bay Area." Even the mayor of Cupertino (Apple's hometown) recently visited an MCA Open House.
Yet the MCA's own web site makes it clear that Silicon Valley Islam is anything but innovative. Their online bookstore, which features a small but revealing set of "authentic" books about Islam, yields an interpretation of Islam that is draconian and unbending: an Islam dedicated to bringing Sharia to the world.

*2*Chapter P17.0: Sodomy and Lesbianism

@P17.1In more than one place in the Holy Koran, Allah recounts to us the story of Lot's people, and how He destroyed them for their wicked practice. There is consensus amongboth Muslims and the followers of all other religions that sodomy is an enormity. It is even viler and uglier than adultery.

@P17.2Allah Most High says:"Do you approach the males of humanity, leaving the wives Allah has created for you?But you are a people who transgress" (Koran 26:165-66).

@P17.3The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said:-1- "Kill the one who sodomizes and the one who lets it be done to him."

there is no consensus on the manner of killing.but all are unpleasant.Thrown from a great height, or crushed by having a masonry wall fall on them.

-2- "May Allah curse him who does what Lot's people did."

and 'allah" and or Mohammad, was dumb as @!$%#, Lot's people did not want anal sex it was threatened to be forced upon them.It was the people of Sodom, who wanted to force anal sex on the visitors, to Lot's place of residence.

-3- "Lesbianism by women is adultery between them."

adultery is harshly punished, 100 lashes with a bullwhip.or stoning

*2*Chapter P18.0: Charging a Woman Who Could Be Chaste (def: o13.2) With Adultery

http://www.nku.edu/~kenneyr/Islam/Reliance.html

Some states still have "blue laws" prohibiting activities on Sundays. In West Virginia, you can't hunt or buy liquor on Sunday.

Some states still have "blue laws" prohibiting activities on Sundays.

From the eighteenth century.

In West Virginia, you can't hunt or buy liquor on Sunday.

We have them in Massachusetts as well, but we have been repealing them since the 1950s, not adding to them. I can buy a six pack, but still cant hunt on Sunday.

There you go, then. The evidence you asked for. Some states, including your own, have laws forcing others to observe the Christian Sabbath.

There you go, then.

Really, you're kidding me.

Do you have a link supporting your "Christianophobia"? a verse, anything?

Got a link to Christian law? I can link "the reliance of the traveller" Sharia law.

this is where I ask for a link to the "Christian" source of the law, a book of "Christian" Holy law. You know comparable to, or with, Islamic sharia law.

Where,(Nation or state) has this "Christian Law" been practiced in the past, and who calling for it's implementation now?

The evidence you asked for.

Go back and read what I asked for. First off, America is a secular nation, ruled by secular laws.You think the Mass, and West Virginia, are in some ways Christian theocracies? Explain how that works?

Do you think the prohibition of murder (in all 50 states) is because of the ten commandments, should we get rid of that?

Some states, including your own, have laws forcing others to observe the Christian Sabbath.

Do you realise just how delusional that sounds?

I'm a pagan and do not observe the Sabbath. I do as a please and and have never had a run in with the law. People who own land in the countryside, don't want to hear gunshots on Sunday. I respect that, it's the law, and in this day and age has nothing to do with Christianity any longer, if it ever did.

Prove that the secular, "progressive", to the extreme, state of Massachusetts enforces any form of Christian law. That is absurd, not based on fact, but delusion, fantasy, an over active imagination.

Where in Christian Scripture does it say anything about buying alcohol on Sunday, or hunting on Sunday?

Those are laws made by Christians, (I admit it) as is more than 95% of all law in America. Provide a list of Christian nations enforcing such laws. What specifically makes them Christian laws.

Still waiting for that "book" of Christian laws, and when the last nation, or state being governed by them. I think I will be a long ass wait. As no such book exists as far as I know. Prove me wrong.

No, of course the laws prohibiting murder should not be repealed, but they do not originate from the ten commandments, nor are they exclusive to them.

And no, "blue laws" are not as severe as Shariah, but they are in place due to religion. Christians decided it wasn't seemly to perform certain acts on Sunday, and they made it part of the law of the land. Is is Biblical? Yes. The fact that it isn't verbatim in the Bible doesn't make it Biblical. Judaic law prohibited all work except that necessary to feed humans and livestock. No buying and selling, no harvesting, etc. According to the Bible, one wasn't even allowed to rescue an ox from a pit on the Sabbath, under Old Testament law.

I don't like to hear shooting on my property in the country on Saturday, either, but there's no law against it. Only Sunday. Perhaps many Jews who observe Sabbath on Saturday wouldn't like to hear shooting on their property, but I doubt there will be laws passed against hunting on Saturday. Why is that, do you think?

Laws against same-sex marriage are entirely based on religious objections to it.

*doesn't make it not Biblical*

SHE should've gotten this year's Peace Prize, not the EU!

Do you have a link supporting your "Christianophobia"? a verse, anything?

Got a link to Christian law? I can link "the reliance of the traveller" Sharia law.

Where,(Nation or state) has this "Christian Law" been practiced in the past, and who calling for it's implementation now?

It's not a phobia. I'm one of 'em. As for Christ ruling the world:

"And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit, and a great chain in his hand, and he laid hold on the old dragon, that old serpent, which is the devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, and cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him that he would deceive the nations no more, until the thousand years should be fulfilled, after that he must be loosed a little season. And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgement was given to them, and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon his foreheads or in their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again, until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that has part in the first resurrection. On such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years." Revelation 20:1-6

I added the bolding. I think it's fair to assume that he will rule using what passes for religious law for Christians: the Bible.

Great chunks of the world have been ruled by the Catholic Chrurch at one time or another. Their 'law' was based on the Bible, regardless of how off track they got. Conservatives are constantly attempting to change US and state law to reflect their interpretation of the Bible's edicts.

What confuses me is why you would bother to defend Christianity. You don't appear to be well acquainted with it. Most adherents would know this stuff. Based on your questions I can only assume you aren't a Christian, and yet you defend it. Odd.

I added the bolding.

I will add a touch of reality

. And they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

The bible was written over one thousand years ago. So your claim of it being a call for Christians to rule the world, is rather silly in 2012.

I think it's fair to assume that he will rule using what passes for religious law for Christians: the Bible.

So you can, in no way, at all, answer my question?

You can produce no "Book" of Christian law, can not source the last nation ruled by Christian law.

Their 'law' was based on the Bible,

Can you prove this in any way? Such as producing the book of Christian laws?

regardless of how off track they got. Conservatives are constantly attempting to change US and state law to reflect their interpretation of the Bible's edicts.

Ah yes, the Christians forcing a theocracy on America delusion. Christianophobia. I noticed that before. You have done nothing to support your claim. Im still waiting.

What confuses me is why you would bother to defend Christianity.

I just don't like ridiculous lies.There are many on this thread.

You don't appear to be well acquainted with it. Most adherents would know this stuff.

And yet I get no answers. If most know this, surely they can provide answers. Unless it was a delusional rant.

Based on your questions I can only assume you aren't a Christian,

I'm an Irish pagan, living in the states.

and yet you defend it. Odd.

I question your assertions, I think that they are imaginary. People have an impossible time proving the imaginary.

This is the funniest so far. I guess America was run on Jewish law.When did all the Jews arrive in Colonial America, and write the blue laws?

Sandy-2021492

Judaic law prohibited all work except that necessary to feed humans and livestock. No buying and selling, no harvesting

Try the Vatican,source Christian law from there. The Vatican is a nation, a Christian nation half the size of central park. But they use secular law. Why is that? Why is the law for the Christian state "The Vatican" not based on the bible, but the words of man.

kpr, several people have now provided the examples you've asked for, and you reject them. Blue laws are not imaginary, and are entirely based on honoring the Christian Sabbath. Laws prohibiting same-sex marriage, which I note you don't address in this discussion, are not imaginary.

Why is sourcing Judaic law funny. You are aware that Christianity evolved from Judaism, right? And honors some of the same traditions, including the Ten Commandments? You know, the Ten Commandments which are Judaic law and which YOU referenced in support of your position?

No, we're not ruled by Jewish law. Then it would be illegal to buy booze and hunt from sundown on Friday until sundown on Saturday. And, please, property owners don't want to hear shooting? Are the guns louder on Sunday? If they live in the country, it goes with the territory.

several people have now provided the examples you've asked for, and you reject them

I don't think Massachusetts or West Virgina are governed by Christian theocratic law. Now, or in the past. I delieve it to be a delusional claim.No one has provided evidence supporting it.

Repeating a nonsensical claim, over and over, does not make it true.

here is my original set of unanswered question.

Do you have a link supporting your "Christianophobia"? a verse, anything?

No biblical verse, or Christian source for the laws, said to be Christian laws, has been produced.

Got a link to Christian law? I can link "the reliance of the traveller" Sharia law.

I can link sources to Islamic nations calling for Islamic law (sharia) I can link the law, to verses of the Quran, hadith, or Sunnah of Mohammad. Those sources, Quran, hadith, and sunnah, are the basis of sharia law. I can link them form multiple reputable sources.

Where,(Nation or state) has this "Christian Law" been practiced in the past,

Still unanswered.

The two states in America ( a secular nation) do not now, or at any time in the past, have been governed by Christan law.Produce the book of Christian law. If such a thing exists, surely there is a set of laws.You seem to claim there is, yet can not produce it when asked to.

and who calling for it's implementation now?

Still waiting

Why is sourcing Judaic law funny.

Because Jews and Christian do not practice the same faith.

I know there is a Jewish religious law. Many of them, in fact. Dealing with Dietary restrictions, (kosher) labor restrictions ( lamed tet avot ‎) and waste disposal. (Bal Tashchit) many others subjects as well.

You are aware that Christianity evolved from Judaism, right?

I am aware that the first "Christians" were all Jews, down to the last man,woman, and child. Since I'm a pagan, I know Christianity was influenced by many of the cultural and religious traditions of European paganism as well.

And honors some of the same traditions, including the Ten Commandments?

If you look above at your comment.

No, of course the laws prohibiting murder should not be repealed, but they do not originate from the ten commandments

you say the laws against murder, have nothing to do with the ten commandments. Not you wish to say, they do not. You want to hold two contrary positions at the same time?

You know, the Ten Commandments which are Judaic law and which YOU referenced in support of your position?

but they do not originate from the ten commandments

Do you see the contradiction?

Laws prohibiting same-sex marriage, which I note you don't address in this discussion, are not imaginary.

They are not Christian either.

They predate Christianity by a few millennium or more.

Greek and Roman pagans practiced homosexuality openly. For a pagan there is no difference between who you have sex with. It's a matter of personal preference. But Marriage was only between a man and a woman. Historically, what nations approved of same sex marriage before Christianity?

Can you name one? there very well maybe, but I don't know it.

And, please, property owners don't want to hear shooting? Are the guns louder on Sunday?

As a hunter living in Massachusetts I know why the Bill to repeal the law was defeated.

It was not by Christians. It was by people who dont like hunting and used the noise as a excuse

http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/house/186/ht02pdf/ht02231.pdf link to the law.

Find a group of Christians wanting to keep the law for religious reasons.

Here is how you demonstrate, how religious laws are tied to a religion. You source them. In Egypt, with the Muslim brotherhood coming to power, there are calls to implement sharia law.

Horrific news reports about 12-year-old girls dying in childbirth do little to stem the tide of child marriage there.

Instead, demonstrations in support of child marriage outstrip those against it, fueled by clerical

clerical, signifying the clergy, religious figures in positions of power with the ability to force these memes in to law.

declarations that opponents of state-sanctioned pedophilia are apostates because the Prophet Mohammed, according to them, married his second wife, Aisha, when she was a child

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/04/23/why_do_they_hate_us

From page four

What hope can there be for women in the new Egyptian parliament, dominated as it is by men stuck in the seventh century?

A quarter of those parliamentary seats are now held by Salafis, who believe that mimicking the original ways of the Prophet Mohammed is an appropriate prescription for modern life

The Qur'an clearly and accurately says that mimicking the original ways of the Prophet Mohamed is what 'allah' demands of it's slaves.

All Muslims are slaves of 'allah', the black stone of the Kabba. And Mohammad is the perfect man. "Al-Insan al-Kamil"

Placing a limit ( on marriage) over the age of nine years of age, would be seen in an Islamic nation as a condemnation of the actions of the Islamic prophet Mohammad.

Who consummated his marriage with a child, when she was nine years old ( link) and still playing with dolls (link).

the Quran says Mohammad is an exemplary standard of conduct, and all Muslims would do well to emulate his actions.(link)

If you say there is inherently something wrong with having sex with little girls, instead of letting them play with their dolls. You in effect, are calling Mohammad a pedophile, and you may upset a large segment of the Islamic world. You know the "true believers" the Jihadists, the suicide bombers, the fundamentalist practitioners of the faith.

Here, one should bear in mind the fact that according to the explanations given in the Quran the question of the waiting periodarises in respect of the women with whom marriage may have been consummated, for there is no waiting-period in case divorce is pronounced before the consummation of marriage. (Al-Ahzab: 49). Therefore, making mention of the waiting-period for the girls who have not yet menstruated, clearly proves that it is not only
permissible to give away the girl in marriage at this age but it is also permissible for the husband to consummate marriage with her.

Now,obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid a thing which the Quran has held as permissible.

Commentary on Qur'an Chapter 65:4 (footnotes link )

They don't misunderstand Islam, they take it literally, as the word of 'allah' or in reality, the black stone of the Kabba

(link) to a hadith in support of the position

Wedlock, Marriage (Nikaah)

Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 62 :: Hadith 63

Narrated Sahl bin Sad:

While we were sitting in the company of the Prophet a woman came to him and presented herself (for marriage) to him. The Prophet looked at her, lowering his eyes and raising them, but did not give a reply. One of his companions said, "Marry her to me O Allah's Apostle!" The Prophet asked (him), "Have you got anything?" He said, "I have got nothing." The Prophet said, "Not even an iron ring?" He Sad, "Not even an iron ring, but I will tear my garment into two
halves and give her one half and keep the other half." The Prophet; said, "No. Do you know some of the Quran(by heart)?" He said, "Yes." The Prophet said, "Go, I have agreed to marry her to you with what you know of the Qur'an (as her Mahr)." 'And for those who have no courses (i.e. they are still immature).

without religious dogma attached, it's statutory rape to have sexual intercourse with a child who has yet to reach puberty.

(65.4) And the 'Iddat for the girl before puberty is three months (in the above Verse).

Egypt is the nation calling for religious law, I sourced the laws under question, and sourced them from Islamic sources. When you do the same with your claims, then we can continue.

Examples of "Christian Law" - "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" - Jewish law Christians decided to uphold in the Middle Ages throughout Europe and in America. The most famous examples are the Salem Witch Trials, which allowed "specter evidence" to condemn folks for worshiping the devil. How very secular.

And stating that Christians observe the Ten Commandments does not mean that laws against murder originated exclusively from them. Non-Judaeo-Christian cultures had laws against murder before the Old Testament was written. You're the one dismissing equating Jewish law and Christian law, but referring to the Ten Commandments as Christian law. I guess when it's convenient to your point, it's allowable, right?

And, yes, I do know Christians who cited religious reasons when WV laws against hunting on Sunday were up for popular vote in around 2004. Just because you don't know any, doesn't mean they don't exist.

" MalalaYousufzai, who was shot by the Pakistani Taliban for advocating education for girls,"

Religion is opium of masses. In Pakistan, many have become heroin addicts.

Islam is bad for girls and women. It treats them as sex machines and slaves. Malala case is a glaring one.

In Pakistan, first it was massive genocides of minorities from 48-50 as soon as Pakistan was formed in 47. Pakistan is supposed to be a pure Islamic nation.

Percentages of Hindus and Sikhs were reduced from about 24 percent less than three years by rapings, stealing, lootings, terrorizing and killing on a massive scale.

Now the Paki Islamic religious madness has not ended there.

They are after Ahmedias, Sufis (fake love and dance Islamic soap opera people), Shiites, Hazras and Baloochs and other minority sects.

Shiites form eighteen percent.

While praying their mosques are blown to pieces on Fridays and even hospitals are bombed to kill those injured.

In 47, in the current Bangladesh, Hindus formed around 40 percent. Now there are hardly 10 percent.

After ruining their Bangladesh, more than 30 million illegal Bangladesh liabilities and curses on earth, Bangladesh Muslims are in India.

Some Muslims are writing simply crap.

If their nations are so good, they should go back to where they or their parents originally came from!

" MalalaYousufzai, who was shot by the Pakistani Taliban for advocating education for girls,"

Religion is opium of masses. In Pakistan, many have become heroin addicts.

Islam is bad for girls and women. It treats them as sex machines and slaves. Malala case is a glaring one.

In Pakistan, first it was massive genocides of minorities from 48-50 as soon as Pakistan was formed in 47. Pakistan is supposed to be a pure Islamic nation.

Percentages of Hindus and Sikhs were reduced from about 24 percent less than three years by rapings, stealing, lootings, terrorizing and killing on a massive scale.

Now the Paki Islamic religious madness has not ended there.

They are after Ahmedias, Sufis (fake love and dance Islamic soap opera people), Shiites, Hazras and Baloochs and other minority sects.

Shiites form eighteen percent.

While praying their mosques are blown to pieces on Fridays and even hospitals are bombed to kill those injured.

In 47, in the current Bangladesh, Hindus formed around 40 percent. Now there are hardly 10 percent.

After ruining their Bangladesh, more than 30 million illegal Bangladesh liabilities and curses on earth, Bangladesh Muslims are in India.

Some Muslims are writing simply crap.

If their nations are so good, they should go back to where they or their parents originally came from!

You bet!

Most Muslims, especially from Pakistan and Bangladesh, carry their mad Islamic baggage with them wherever they go!

Examine the London tube bombings!

Even in 9/11, Islamic barbarians and beasts from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan had a hand.

More their percentages and their hate preaching and killer training centers, mosques, more problems to a society and nation.

Look at the US, Britain and many European nations.

Johnathan, that would be true assuming the 9/11 were true as official reports. But we all know that the truth has yet to be told.

South America has a huge Christian following ...yet no terrorism there? Do you think that "terrorists" only dont like American freedoms and chrisitans...or they dont like them all?

The way i see it, As we have attemtped in the past (Operations Northwoods, for example) is to create a fear, to enter a war. And fill the media with propaganda. Even hitler said it..."make your lies big, repeat those lies and people will eventually believe it." So far, there have been too many flags that prove the official story is a lie. As for who did it, and why...that is still unanswered.

As for Islamic barbarians...take a look at that statment of yours! Obviously you could never think clearly with a mind frame as this. This for one second....The US has toppled many countries...because of "maybe's"...Saddam has WMD's...NO...Opps, lets kill him anyway! Iran, has weapons (according to Netenyahu, since 1992 has been within months of obtaining a nuclear bomb) that will destruct the world. Again more fear...so again...lets go to war because maybe! So...the Western barbarianism should read (according to what i think your mind works like) We kill people who we fear...but thats ok...because we promote peace...by killing? Politics....lies.....money......power!

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Even in 9/11, Islamic barbarians and beasts from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan had a hand.

If I remember correctly one of the Al Qaeda leaders who participated in planning the 9/11 attack (Anwar al-Awlaki) was even born in the US.

Jeanine-2246384 - You say whatever you feel like saying and don't let anyone make you think you are wrong. It is your GOD given right to speak as you please and as old saying goes - to hell with em if they don't like it!! Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing. You can't be put in jail and stoned or killed for what you say. As Jackie Gleason used to say - How sweet it is!

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Jeanine-2246384 - You say whatever you feel like saying and don't let anyone make you think you are wrong. It is your GOD given right to speak as you please and as old saying goes - to hell with em if they don't like it!!

jeanine, okie is right! Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing, even it it shows that you are a hateful ignorant person. It is still within your rights to speak your mind! Please dont let anyone make you think you are wrong...your words are doing it all by itself!

Anna: So any Muslim even if born in non-Muslim nation is a liability to the society and nation. He or she is a Trojan horse for Islamic religious Nazis, who want Sharia Laws every where in the world.

Why should we tolerate Muslim traitors in our nations?

mqira: At least, I am talking and making posts.

Just for cartoons on Mohammad, the sexual maniac, or video on him, I am not taking marches or going on killings like Islamic barbarians and beasts.

One-way street Islamic barbarians and beasts don't tolerate or permit freedom of expression. They deny all rights for humans which we permit Muslim traitors and liabilities to our societies to have in our nations.

That is the difference between infidels like I and Muslim barbarians, traitors, Trojan horses and liabilities in our societies.

There are many Muslims in our nations, who give all sorts of explanations to the most barbaric acts of Muslims.

Why don't the Muslims live non-Muslims to live in peace in their own nations by going back to from where they have come?

shona, well said. So what is the connection with Australia, or was that just a general humanity reference? :)

Evening John...I am an Australian and it was breaking news here when she was shot. We, as are many other people from countries around the world are hoping for the best for this young lass and that she recovers. We are all watching with great interest how she goes...including my country, Australia.

Shona, now THAT is a good post. No hate, no stereotyping...just hope. Good post.

God bless you too

And from me as well. I wouldn't presume to speak for everyone in the US, but I believe many are hoping for a speedy recovery and wish her all the best!

You can speak for the US Amanda. Im sure we have our jerks over here, but generally Americans support this girl and what she fights for.

Yes a very nice comment indeed shona1.... And I wish that I could be that unbiased too. But I can't let go of the feeling that some rich corporation here in America is the root of all the problems in the Middle Eastern countries like Pakistan....

The average yearly wage in Pakistan is equal to just $4,650 here. The common man does nothing there but struggle to feed his family.... Just as in my country....

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I can't let go of the feeling that some rich corporation here in America is the root of all the problems in the Middle Eastern countries like Pakistan....

Yes of course its all America's fault. Maybe reading about the history of each country will help you understand that the violence didn't start with the involvement of the US in the Middle-East.

Very good post!

Mind you: most of these Islamic mad hell holes were invented by the British and kept alive in the map by the US and NATO forces.

If the US and NATO forces had not intervened, Saddam would have wiped out many nations like Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, UAE and some more from the map.

Same thing applies to Pakistan, an Islamic dirtiest swamp earth. Let me focus on what ungrateful and backstabbing Pakis have done.

Pakistan, Islamic hell hole with nukes

In Pakistan, first it was massive genocides of minorities from 48-50 as soon as Pakistan was formed. Percentages of Hindus and Sikhs were reduced from about 24 percent less than three years by rapings, stealing, lootings, terrorizing and killing on a massive scale.

Now the Paki Islamic religious madness has not ended there.

They are after Ahmedias, Sufis (fake love and dance Islamic soap opera people), Shiites and Baloochs and other minority sects.

Shiites form eighteen percent.

While praying their mosques are blown to pieces on Fridays and even hospitals are bombed to kill those injured.

Pakis role in Afghanistan

In Afghanistan, Pakis have backstabbed the US and NATO forces big time. Half of NATO forces deaths are due to ungrateful and backstabbing Pakis.

When the NATO forces were entering Kandahar in 2001, Pakis airlifted key al-Qaida, Taliban, ISI and others militants by back door from Kandahar.

This includes Mullah Omar, Osama and many including Paki Haqqani militant network leaders.

Hope people remember about Pakis sheltering Osama.

How are the other 2 girls? no report on their recovery... This is very nice story... but there were 2 others also! and they were young girls...don't stop let us know about the others too!! (js)

Diane: Kainat and Shazia were wounded but their injuries were not as serious as Malala's and they are with their families in Pakistan. The Prime Minister visited them over the weekend to applaud them for their courage--I think the story is that these two girls knew that Malala was on the Taliban's assassination list and when the gunmen stopped them outside their school and asked them to point Malala out, the girls lied to the assassins and said they didn't know Malala.

Thank you Amanda, I did read some of that, but had not heard how the other 2 girls were doing... Yes they were indeed brave!

I hope this youngster's courage will be an inspiration to her country's people who have tolerated far too much violence and control from the Taliban and other terrorist groups.

At the doctors today while I was there for my appointment there was an elderly Muslim woman there with her teenage daughter. The whole time I sat there not one person said anything to either of them at all....

She spoke no english at all and her daughter was there to translate for her. And she spoke english very well, she was talking on her phone with someone and wasn't dressed in proper Muslim attire either.... Which I thought was pretty awesome....

My sons doctor is Muslim too, she is a pediatrician. She and her husband have been here for ever and have a practice together. She is a great doctor and a great woman of this world....

I don't care how someone dresses or what religion they may practice. If you are good person, it will shine through just as Malala does....

Considering that a group of 50 Pakistani Islamic clerics issued a fatwa on October 12 against the Taliban gunmen for the attempted assassination of the girl that the Pakistani Prime Minister called 'our daughter', I believe this is the beginning of hope and change for this region.

We need to stop attacks over there too, we are doing just as much damage as the Taliban killing innocents.... We need to let them be the bad guy and show we are in fact the good guys who want to help them....

I just read a few minutes ago where there were 350 US drone strikes up and down the Pakistani Afgan borders.... And not just men have died in these attacks.... They use women and children to sheild them when ever possible.... And as wrong as that may be we have no rights killing them anyways....

The radicle groups there will one day bare their true colors just as they did by attempting to kill Malala and one day be hunted like the dogs they are....

We need to stop attacks over there too, we are doing just as much damage as the Taliban killing innocents.... We need to let them be the bad guy and show we are in fact the good guys who want to help them....

No, no, and no. No war has ever been won by trying to kill the enemy with kindness.

Back when we fought wars that we actually wanted to win we did things EXACTLY as barbaric as the Taliban does them now. Only instead of shooting schoolgirls one-at-a-time, we did it wholesale by firebombing Dresden and then NUKING Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

You say we need to act less like the Taliban - I think we should be learning from them. If we had taken this approach originally we probably would've been out of Afghanistan in December of 2001.

Or, praise medical research that saved her life and shun the religious ideals that motivated those animals to shoot her in the first place.

Or, How about praise the Ideals of the Great Religions who espouse amelioration - which led to medical improvements...

And let's not forget the young woman's bravery.

As for the Taliban, they are not followers of their faith - they are heretics. Half of those goons cannot even read their own Quaran to begin with.

Indeed!

LOL - and the folks who bashed your post sure bear an ironic similar intolerance to those they hate, don't they?

This brave little girl's recovery makes me wonder if the rabid animals who tried to kill her realize this shows who's side God is on. Of course there is only so much you can expect a rabid animal to understand. Islam is a virus upon the civilized world, and since science and logic have never cured a virus, the only thing civilized people can do is isolate it. Once the virus has killed all of its hosts........no virus. muslims need to realize that if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Deal with it! If you choose not to, you do not have any reasons to disagree with those who will....... in whatever manner necessary.

"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil but because of those who look on and do nothing." Einstein.

Ok, seven-341804, if you draw what you are saying out to it's logical conclusion, if the girl had NOT recovered it would have meant that God was on the side of the Taliban. You don't really believe that, do you?

Cappy, good point.........and no.........I don't. Thanks!

Praise the lord for what? The fact that she was shot or that she survived, so far, (the talinuts have vowed to finish her off). What kind of a supreme being needs to be or insists upon being praised and honored at every turn? I'll tell you what kind......the kind that was invented by men that "knew" that the earth was flat. This type has controlled and fed off of ignorant and superstitious people for thousands of years. It's time to wake up to the idea, (I didn't say fact, because I don't have any more proof of my thinking than do the believers), that gods were invented by early, (ignorant and superstitious) men. Use the brain that you were born with and set yourself free. If you don't know right from wrong by now, you never will. Life without religion is GREAT.

Life without out religion is great huh. So the ten commandments mean nothing to you. You would be fine if everyone around you ignored them. Don't tell me people can be good without them, even before Moses brought them down from the mountain, from the beginning of time (our time) they were espoused by men and attributed to some God of their choice. Without religion there would be no hope for mankind, no purpose in life, just passing through on this earth so why not, rob, steal, rape, plunder and pillage. I think we have a higher purpose. So if you think life without religion is great, I need to inform you that life with religion is far greater than anything your short thoughts could ever imagine.

Bullet171, it sounds like you don't rob, steal, rape, plunder and pillage because youre afraid of God's wrath. Did you need a book to tell you that those things are wrong?

Bullet - you can develop a sense of morality and ethics without religion. Ghandi wasn't a Christian but you wouldn't say he wasn't great, right?

If god showed himself to all tribes of man. Would he not have shown a different face to each of them and their different ideas of greatness....

Evelyn, you go ahead and praise whomever or whatever you wish. That's the beauty of living in the US, even if I don't agree with you (which I do by the way), I respect your beliefs just like I respect the comments of Cappy and others who do not believe in God. This is so different than what happens in other countries where you are killed or beaten for believing or not believing.

In those other places, Cappy and others who do not believe in God, Allah, or whatever else would be taken out and flogged or stoned for saying what he said here so I guess I should say, "Thank you God for letting Cappy live where he can scorn You and those who believe in you to his heart's content and still be alive." Have a wonderful weekend!

Scorn? I certainly hope my comments didn't come across as scorn, I only meant them to provoke thought. I just don't need a book to tell me or fear of reprisal from a deity to prevent me from murdering someone. I have murdered and raped every person I have ever wanted to murder and rape, which is to say, no one. And I feel that the tortured logic that the faithful use to justify believing in the unbelievable should be respectfully challenged whenever presented.

Bullett,

Morality does not come from the bible. The ten commandments were rules to live by long before the story of Moses was "written." Morality is based in evolution. Murder, theft, and rape are bad for humans. Humans figured this out centuries before religion was invented.

It is truly scary that people like you only behave because of some promise of eternal life or some threat of eternal damnation. Your morality is external. Mine, as a non-believer is internal. Internal motivation trumps external every time.

That is exactly what I said corona. From the very earliest history these things were known but the men that preached them and taught them were religious men that believed in a (or more) Gods. It is a God given tablet of hope and struture for mankind, a set of rules that without there would be no civil society. To Mr CAPPY, no I don't do evil because I fear God, but because I accept God's grace. To MINDYABUSINESS, Ghandi was a great leader and was a Hindu, Hinduism is the worlds 3rd largest religion and came from the Vedic religion, which worshipped dieties. Christians don't have laws, we are saved by grace and obey the laws of the land.

Not only are they cowards, but incompetent cowards. So glad to hear she's doing so well. It's a nice "FU" to the scum who tried to kill her.

The last update was that they were monitoring an infection along the track of the bullets path. So still risky.

But it amazes me she is vertical. I just hope she doesn't need any major surgery and they can take care of the infection with antibiotics with minimal invasion of the brain.

My prayers are with her.

is an awesome movement supporting the brave stand she took!

They said that a bullet that grazed her head caused the infection. This might be an assumption, but I'm pretty sure I'm right in saying she was shot more than once, so more than just that one bullet and therefore more than that one wound.

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They said that a bullet that grazed her head caused the infection. This might be an assumption, but I'm pretty sure I'm right in saying she was shot more than once, so more than just that one bullet and therefore more than that one wound.

Actually she was shot once. Per the update, the bullet entered under the skin near her left eyebrow and traveled down through her neck to stop just above her left shoulder blade. So there is currently an infection following the path the bullet took. Since this was done at point blank, I guess the guy who pulled the trigger thought that the bullet entered her skull and didn't need to pull the trigger again. She's one extremely lucky girl. Hope they get the infection taken care of soon.

Then what are they referring to here?

Rosser said the infection was probably related to the track of a bullet which grazed her head when she was attacked.

That wound does not equate to being "grazed"! Maybe she was grazed by a bullet that was aimed at one of the other girls?

What is confusing is that it firstly says "a bullet" in what I quoted above and then later "the bullet". One implies more than one, the other implies only one.

The hospital also released more details of the attack on Yousufzai. She was shot at point blank range and the bullet hit her left brow, but instead of penetrating the skull it traveled underneath the skin along the length of the side of her head and into her neck, landing above her left shoulder-blade.

She was shot once. And as far as using the term "grazed" goes, that may have been the wrong term for them to use (as media has been known to describe something incorrectly), but nowhere in the article did it say that she was shot twice. She was only shot once with a travel path of one bullet entering under the skin near the left brow, following down her neck and stopping above her shoulder blade. No reports of a second shot. One bullet, one path.

There is definitely a security problem in Pakistan when it comes to female politicians especially.

Look what happened to Benazir Bhutto. Nothing has changed in that country and now they are shooting little girls.

It was cute how the article corrected the age from 14 to 15. I remember that age when you counted in 1/4's . That is who the Taliban who are afraid of. Little girls who just want an education. It's pathetic.

Alan, stop trolling...seriously.

At least more than Obama did