These ships that attempt to run the blockade should be stopped as the Israelis do. The blockade of Gaza is perfectly legal under international law and the Israelis are well within their rights to divert these vessels to other ports. The Israelis have no problem with allowing legitimate humanitarian cargo to be transferred to Gaza through Israeli ports once the cargo has been inspected. Due to weapons smuggling into Gaza, the cargo inspections are completely justified and needed. These people that attempt to run the blockade are doing so at great risk and are intentionally trying to provoke a reaction from the Israelis. The Israelis have demonstrated on more than one occasion that so long as they do not meet any armed resistance that the diversion will be handled peacefully. The ship owners that allow their ships to be used in these attempts are extremely lucky in my opinion. Many other countries would impound the ships and force the owners to sue to try and get them back. The Israelis have simply diverted the vessel to an Israeli port where they can unload their cargo for inspection and transfer to Gaza and then release the vessel to go on it's way. This is more than reasonable as they could rightfully impound the vessels, costing the owners great deal of money in legal fees to try and get the vessel back, not to mention the lost revenue from having the ship idled for a prolonged period. The Israelis would also be within their rights to arrest the ship's captain and crew, bringing legal charges against them for attempting to run the blockade. With the exception of the case where they were met with armed resistance on board the one Turkish vessel, the Israelis have shown a great deal of restraint in how they have handled these attempts to run the blockade. Even in that one incident with the Turkish vessel, the Israelis were far more reasonable than they needed to be in that they did not seize that vessel or arrest the remainder of the crew and passengers. They forced the vessel to an Israeli port were it's cargo was unloaded, inspected and sent on it's way to Gaza and the ship, with it's remaining crew and passengers was allowed to go on it's way.

Mimi, your assessment is excellent and accurate.

Gaza is the largest prison camp in the world.

Gaza holds the second largest terrorist organization in the world.

Gaza is the largest prison camp in the world.

So, people in Gaza cannot leave Gaza?

Why don't these "humanitarians" help poor Arabs in Syria?!

30,000 Arabs in Syria were killed in the last year and I see no ships trying to help them. These flotillas are not about helping Arabs (Palestinian or Syrian) but about hate for Israel. Shame on Jew haters and their supporters.

If I am not with Israel, who am I with Hamas? No. I grew up in the USSR, even Soviet communists were less evil than Hamas, who hate their own people (who disagree with them), Jews and Christians (and for my liberal "friends" - Hamas hates gays and has no respect for women's right, too).

the entire thing is just a PR stunt. these people dont understand how much trouble they are causing. if they do, they dont care. ill never understand why anyone would want to aid hamas in any way. might as well have sent guns to the nazis during world war 2. there are plenty of other non-terrorist governed places where they could send their aid to. at least 30 rockets are fired every day from gaza to israel. israel only retaliates when one of their citizens gets killed. im so sick of israel getting a bad rap for just trying to defend itself.

Israel Pulled out of Gaza in just another land for peace deal that went wrong. They gave up the land but did not get one second of peace. All the Muslims had to do is NOTHING. Just go about their lives peacefully and they would have had the beginnings of their independent state. Israel even removed the dead from the cemeteries and removed all buildings except the synagogues which for religious reasons could not be torn down. Israel will not abandon the blockade as long as the rockets fly and Gaza is used as a base for attacks against them. AND WHY SHOULD THEY!!! It is time if the Muslims want a independent state they have to man up and stop the attacks. Then the blockade can be lifted. The problem is many of the Muslims make a lot of money stealing Western aid and extorting their own people. They have power. Power they are not going to willingly give up. Furthermore many Muslims leaders use their support for the Palestinians to prop up their own corrupt regimes. If the Muslims want a independent state they need to just stop and create it. Just create instead of destroying. Stop the war. No one is saying the have to sign a surrender. Just walk away from the violence. Stop spending money on rockets and arms and use it to create a life for their people. The Palestinians are not inmates in a "concentration camp" in Gaza. The are manning a armed military fort in Gaza.

Hey, Ed, know anything much? Gaza shares a border with Egypt, a border the Egyptians usually keep closed. At the discretion of the Egyptians, Gazans can come and go. But it was Egypt that has a rule about "Palestinians" staying within its borders. They hate the mutts more than the Israelis do.

These good but naive people should go live in Palestine for a few months, meet people, especially in high places, they will be made aware of certain things they have no idea about. Israel is constantly depicted as the "bad guy", but if they weren't armed they would have been destroyed, as they are constantly under attack. They are a tiny Jewish Nation drowned in a sea of Muslim countries, and unfortunately many of them are bent on destroying and/or attacking Israel. I have a friend, who is a human rights activist, he did exactly that, protested with the Palestinians too ... he now lives in Israel and is aware.

This said there is good people on both sides, and hopefully they will find a peaceful solution to end this conflict.

Last week 55 rockets were launched into Israel, not too many heard about that one.

On the other hand Anna, research Rachel Corrie, a human right activist who skull was crushed by an israeli bulldozer for trying to stop them from destroying civilian homes and crops. Also look for Anna Beltzer, a Jewish Human right activist who went to visit israel and decided to cross a see how Palestinians are living to find out that they were living under an Apartheid regime adminitered by israel and now she has founded the Jewish Voice for Peace to protect Palestinian rights. To every one who tries to portrey the Palestinian cause as a terrorrist group, nice try. It is a survival and a colonization issue including mass punishment and terrorism by israel...

Not really mygirl, I guess you have not heard about the last 2 to bombs dropped in civilian areas, destroyed crops, destroyed homes, destroyed infrastructure, ect. caused by israel...

Sam, ever heard of Vittorio Arrigoni, an Italian pro-Palestinian activist?

He was killed in Gaza but not by Israelis. it's amazing how quickly pro-Palestinians forgot all about him.

Mimi, I suggest you check your facts. The ship was boarded by the Israeli Navy in International waters, making it an Act of Piracy under all laws and codes governing sea traffic. Blockading ports to starve innocent civilians is never legal, nor is piracy.

If you are going to use IDF propaganda as your source admit up front you won't believe independant reports, and that you are an "Israel can do no wrong" person. Every country on Earth can, and does, wrong. That is why independent press are so vital, to keep the countries from going rogue as Israel has (and the US for that matter). I'll believe the IDF tale the day I believe a Faux News story - which will be NEVER. I don't believe any military source of news, regardless of the country.

And before you call me an anti-semite, think on this: my wife was raised Jewish, with both sides of her family being members of the Jewish faith for some 1,500+ years or so. My issue is with the lack of abiding International Laws by the Government and Military of Israel, not people of the Jewish faith.

Eli have you ever heard of collateral damage, or israelis may have killed him and try to frame others as they are soooo good at doing, unfortunately for them they have gotten too arrogant and reckless and getting caught with their pants down more than usual.

Sam, Rachel Corrie sat down in front of a Caterpillar bulldozer. We have several of them operating in our area, so I have seen that once the scoop is down the driver cannot see what's in front of him. In this case, everyone on the scene agrees that they screamed for him to stop and he tried to back up, which only made things worse. This so-called martyr is what Lenin would have called a Useful Idiot.

If Mr. Pissias and more like him focused on the Greek financial tragedy instead of causing more trouble in neighboring countries then perhaps Greece would would find a way out of this morass.

I'll never understand sympathy for terrorists groups like Hamas. If the Palestinian people want to be part of the civilized world then they must set up a government NOT controlled by a terrorist group.

Celtic: Considering what the Israelis are up against, they have the most moral military in the world. Collateral damage and, yes, even atrocities on occasion are committed by all armies, but which army in the world would, pray tell, drop leaflets to warn citizens of impending bombing in order to minimize or avoid collateral damage. And if the Palestinian militias did not hide behind women and children and launch their attacks from schools and mosques then perhaps there would not be as much collateral damage. Also, the blockade is to prevent items such as concrete and steel, not food, from entering Gaza so they cannot use it to make more bombs. Did you ever see photos of the malls in Gaza? They are stocked to the ceiling with more food than I've seen in some supermarkets in the US and they are building luxury homes there. Hardly "starving innocent civilians." Please get your facts straight before you post more rubbish and make a compete fool of yourself.

Celtic: Why don't you Google "malls in Gaza" and you can see for yourself. Unfortunately I am unable to post links.

Sam, Rachel Corrie failed the Darwinian test of "Don't sit in front of heavy equipment where the operator can't see you and anyway, can't stop quickly." Good thing she died before she could breed. We don't need any more morons in the ME.

What is sad is circumstances of all the millionaires in Gaza and there a few hundred of them: have all gotten rich by lording over the smuggling,the tunnels, weapons trade and government graft. As long as their dupped less-fortunate wannabe Shahids keep lobbing missiles and mortars they will continue to get richer. They are the elite of Gaza and what they renamed: "West Bank. There is one thing the elite anywhere will not give up. OK two. They are pumped up by a religion and Mohammad was no Gandhi. This is not going to change anytime soon.

Blockading ports to starve innocent civilians is never legal, nor is piracy.

Gaza, is ruled by Hamas. A genocidal group of theocratic psychopaths. And no one is starving.

My issue is with the lack of abiding International Laws

Israel is well within it's rights.

The Washington Post reports:

The 105-page report — written by Sir Geoffrey Palmer, a former New Zealand prime minister, and Alvaro Uribe, Colombia's former president — concluded that Israel has a legal right to maintain a naval blockade of Gaza.

I'm a Celt, and an Irish pagan. A child of the goddess Danu

I suggest you check your facts

Israel needs to let the ship pass the Palestinians are running low on their favourite book Mein Kempf.

From my favorite Irish atheist.

Israel is a litmus test for me.

Palestinian Muslim totalitarians are fighting Jewish/secular democrats.

The former jail and torture gays.

The latter have gay pride marches.

The former beat women for immodest dress.

The latter have topless beaches.

The former get new rulers when the old ones are shot and thrown off rooftops.

The latter have decades of peaceful elections.

The former have sharia law.

The latter are more secular than Ireland.

If you support the Palestinians, you have no moral compass.

There are a range of trendy reasons why westerners refuse to support a liberal western country under siege from people who do not subscribe to western values.

Self-hatred may be the single most dominant reason. Hating Israel is a safe way of hating the west, for a certain left-wing mindset. Whatever the reasons, the left disgraces itself by its support for the Palestinians.

http://markhumphrys.com/left.israel.html

Basil, as I have met some of these "moral military members", I will respectfully agree to disagree with you. Many have, upon leaving the mandatory military service gone to work for pro-peace groups because they witnessed horrors done by their own troops on orders from higher ups, not unlike when they murdered a US civilian who tried to stop the illegal bulldozing of a Palestinian home in response to a terrorist attack that had nothing to do with the home's occupants. Neither they, nor I will forget that the IDF has been responsible for many US deaths, including US Navy personnel on the USS Liberty in 1967. #4 sailors died and another 173 were injured. An "Accident" that neither country has ever investigated, nor given full accounts of ever. Moral people don't destroy innocent civilian homes, shoot US news reporters, or attack US Navy vessels.

VALUABLE IMBECILES FOR PALESTINE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqSY285BqQg

not unlike when they murdered a US civilian who tried to stop the illegal bulldozing of a Palestinian home in response

That bulldozer was not destroying a home. Read a reputable source. Not propoganda. Have you seen a home, in any of the photos?

An "Accident" that neither country has ever investigated

Dude, that is either willful ignorance, or outright lying.

Please get a clue. As a Celt and a pagan, that is @!$%#ing embarrassing.

Over the past decade, pro-Palestinian groups and activists have done their best to burnish Corrie’s legend as an American idealist whose death shone a spotlight on Israeli evil. Her diary was adapted by actor Alan Rickman and Katherine Viner into a play–“My Name is Rachel Corrie”–which earned raves in London and a slightly less enthusiastic reception in New York. The play was the centerpiece of a propaganda campaign aimed at convincing the world that Israel
was committing barbarous acts in Gaza against helpless people.

But the truth about the International Solidarity Movement was something very different than what has been depicted on stage. Rather than advocating a two-state solution, the group is opposed to the existence of the State of Israel and opposes all measures of self-defense on the part of the Jewish state.

They are screaming mad antisemites, no better than Hamas, who they support.

What was going on in Gaza during Corrie’s time there was a terrorist war of attrition in which Palestinians sought to bring Israel to its knees with a campaign of suicide bombings and other attacks which, over the course of the second intifada, took the lives of over 1,000 Israelis. You hear nothing about this in “My Name is Rachel Corrie” or any of the accounts of her activities by her fans. Nor do you see the Rachel Corrie captured in a photo of her at the time, face contorted by rage as she joins Palestinians in burning an American flag.

But, as British journalist Tom Gross memorably wrote back in 2005 in his piece, “The Forgotten Rachels,”those promoting the cult of Rachel Corrie don’t seem to care about the Jewish girls by the same name who were slaughtered by the terrorists the ISM activist sought to shield.

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/08/28/rachel-corrie-was-no-peace-activist-israel-palestinians-terrorism/

Some background on the international solidarity movement, and their support for violence

thats sick.

How "fundamentalist" and "extremist" of them, in an Islamic way.

New York Times corrections. The photo of Rachael Corrie defending a "house" was a little bit of terrorist (hamas) propaganda. The photo was from the day before she died. But it looked better. When there is no interest in the truth, it's seldom found. but like reality, it's out there.

A picture caption on March 17 with an article about an American protester who was crushed by an Israeli Army bulldozer in Gaza referred incorrectly to the bulldozer shown. It was one that the protester, Rachel Corrie, had earlier tried to stop from destroying a Palestinian home.

Different day, different bulldozer. But defending a vacant lot, is not as noble.

It was not the one that killed her.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/26/pageoneplus/corrections.html?ex=1112072400&en=c3a41a4c34af94bb&ei=5070&ex=1049691600&en=37351ed64d80bcfe&ei=5070

Gaza is the largest prison camp in the world.

And what a prison camp it is!!! Beautiful resorts, hotels, beaches, shopping...sigh...too bad it's too pricey for me!!! :(

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotels-g660378-West_Bank_and_Gaza-Hotels.html

oh and hey - don't forget the free food and medical care trucked in by Israel!!!

Celtic: Why don't you Google "malls in Gaza" and you can see for yourself. Unfortunately I am unable to post links.

http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/mideastdispatches/archives/001127.html

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=221934

SHOPPING!!!

...sigh...this looks nicer than where i live and i live in a tourist destination city!!! :(

They also neglect to mention the electronics, mercedez benzes and a host of other luxury items but hey, let us not go too far, might destroy the narrative.

KPR37, Chefaz, and others: Thanks for your moral and truthful postings.

Presenting the truth is easy. Getting others to face it when it's presented to them is a whole other matter.

kpr37 - reported for personal attack. For your edification, I have read the reports, from the first article in Foreign Affairs magazine to various scholarly work that has recently been published (try using Google Scholar). Many of the family members of those killed still want answers neither the US or Israel are willing to give, such as the reports by sailors and officers that the Liberty was flown over multiple times by Israeli Air Force planes, yet the Israelis claimed they did not know it was a US Navy ship. I'll side with the families that are still looking for answers more than 50 years later. As an historian by trade, I am never willfully or otherwise ignorant. I look at the facts and facts point to the attack on the Liberty was no accident.

Your attack on my culture and my religion were, and remain, uncalled for regardless of how much your views may differ from mine. This has nothing to do with either, it is about a systemic abuse of power by a few people in charge of a country's government with very short intervals of sanity when those warmongers didn't hold office. The result of that sanity was peace accords, followed by an assassination by hard-line, right-wing thugs who do use religion as a shield. Killing anyone is never a mitzva!

As to the photos, no you don't see the house as the photos were taken looking at the front of the bulldozer, meaning the home was behind the camera person. Plus you are still arguing that killing a US civilian (or any unarmed civilian) is OK because you can't see a house, or the report says there wasn't one (and we all know the Times never makes mistakes). That is pure insanity. No one should be crushed to death by any military personnel in any country that claims to be free. Your semantics don't work - murder is murder, and in no way is that moral. Killing an unarmed civilian is still considered a crime, and if your argument is that Israel is in a perpetual state of war, then it is a war crime.

I hope and pray you can come to your senses and see that you are defending the indefensible. All life is sacred, and should never be taken unless there is absolutely no other choice. In none of the incidents I cited were there a lack of choices. Regardless, you have still been reported, and on ignore, since you cannot act civil.

kpr37 - reported for personal attack.

I asked a question. This one, it's hardly a personal attack. (Dude, that is either willful ignorance, or outright lying.) You answered it here.

For your edification, I have read the reports,

Since you know of the reports, and have read them, you were lying when you said this.

"An "Accident" that neither country has ever investigated"

from the first article in Foreign Affairs magazine to various scholarly work that has recently been published (try using Google Scholar). Many of the family members of those killed still want answers neither the US or Israel are willing to give, such as the reports by sailors and officers that the Liberty

You are well aware of the reports you denied.

Your attack on my culture and my religion

Isn't that the one we share.(LOL) I am a Celtic pagan myself. Goidelic pride , has nothing to do with spreading lies about Jews!

I hope and pray you can come to your senses and see that you are defending the indefensible.

You know you are defending Hamas, the genocidal, theocratic psychopaths, right? Do you not see the contradiction in your words?

All life is sacred, and should never be taken unless there is absolutely no other choice

The charter of Hamas is to the point. It calls for the genocide of the Jewish people. There are in fact many other choices. Like living in peace!

From Yale university school of law.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

The Universality of the Islamic Resistance
Movement:

Article Seven:

As a result of the fact that those Moslems who adhere to the ways of the Islamic Resistance Movement spread all over the world, rally support for it andits stands, strive towards enhancing its struggle, the
Movement is a universal one. It is well-equipped for that because of the clarity of its ideology, the nobility of its aim and the loftiness of its objectives.

On this basis, the Movement should be viewed and evaluated, and its role be recognised. He who denies its right, evades supporting it and turns a blind eye to facts, whether intentionally or unintentionally, would awaken to see that events have overtaken him and with no logic to justify his attitude. One should
certainly learn from past examples.

The injustice of next-of-kin is harder to bear than the smite of the Indian sword.

"We have also sent down unto thee the book of the Koran with truth, confirming that scripture which was revealed before it; and preserving the same safe from corruption. Judge therefore between them according to that which Allah hath revealed; and follow not their desires, by swerving from the truth which hath come unto thee. Unto every of you have we given a law, and an open path; and if Allah had pleased, he had surely made you one people; but he hath thought it fit to give you different laws, that he might try you in that which he hath given you respectively. Therefore strive to excel each other in good works; unto Allah shall ye all return, and then will he declare unto you that concerning which ye have disagreed." (The Table, verse 48).

The Islamic Resistance Movement is one of the links in the chain of the struggle against the Zionist invaders. It goes back to 1939, to the emergence of the martyr Izz al-Din al Kissam and his brethren the fighters, members of Moslem Brotherhood. It goes on to reach out and become one with another chain that includes the struggle of the Palestinians and Moslem Brotherhood in the 1948 war
and the Jihad operations of the Moslem Brotherhood in 1968 and after.

Moreover, if the links have been distant from each other and if obstacles, placed by those who are the lackeys of Zionism in the way of the fighters obstructed the continuation of the struggle, the Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realisation of Allah's promise, no matter how long that
should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkadtree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).

The Slogan of the Islamic Resistance Movement:

Article Eight:

Allah is its target, the Prophet is its model, the Koran its constitution: Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes.

it is about a systemic abuse of power by a few people in charge of a country's government

Hamas, the genocidal terrorist group, firing rockets in to Israel. Promoting suicide bombings, and random killing of Jews, because they are Jew.

Oops- go to http://www.idfblog.com/

Adam,

You wrote: "Gaza holds the second largest terrorist organization in the world." You're referring to Israel Defense Forces, right? But, I may quarrel with you; I think IDF tops the list.

Israel vacated Gaza for one reason only, is to make it into the largest open air prison in history. Israel had to remove the trash first(Illegal Israeli Settlements). Thats the only way it can seal Gaza and slow bleed Palestinians. That makes IDF the largest criminal terrorist entity ever...

Michael: You see many Israeli's destroying American consulates and murdering US Ambassadors? You see many Israelis storming embassies, burning flags and protesting violently because of a video? You see many Israelis killing people for 'defaming' their prophet? You see many Israeli's beheading women? You see many Israeli's hanging homosexuals and stoning women to death for adultery? You see many Israelis shooting little girls for going to school? You see many Israelis burning little girls to death in their school?

Kamal: Your grasp of history is a mite...biased, which isn't surprising.

So sorry, I will take the Israeli 'terrorists' over your 'peaceful' Muslims any day of the week.

Michael either you´ve attended a hezbollah training course in invented history or current affairs.or maybe you attended a big lie nazi school by SS grandchildren.As for me I find that people named Michael are the first group of fantasy hallucinators....Your comments are so absurd that you also rank in the most suspcious group on newsvine..Get the drift,you sound like an Iranian agent...or a pyscho anti semitic ranting about IDF....Come on. tell us who you really are??

Prison Kamal? Why don't you Google "Malls in Gaza" and see for yourself what terrible prison they are living in.

Mathuin - your crystal ball must be on the blink.

ACTUAL QUOTE AND CONTEXT:

The quote is taken from an address Dayan gave to Technion University students on March 19, 1969. A transcript of the speech appeared in Ha'aretz on April 4, 1969.

In answer to a student's question suggesting that Israel adopt a policy of punishing Arabs who commit crimes in the West Bank by deportation to Jordan, Dayan answers that he is vehemently opposed to this idea, insisting that the answer to the longstanding Arab-Israeli problem is to learn to live together with Arab neighbors. He goes on to say:

We came to a region of land that was inhabited by Arabs, and we set up a Jewish state. In a considerable number of places, we purchased the land from Arabs and set up Jewish villages where there had once been Arab villages. You don't even know the names [of the previous Arab villages] and I don't blame you, because those geography books aren't around anymore. Not only the books, the villages aren't around. Nahalal was established in the place of Mahalul, and Gvat was established in the place of Jibta, Sarid in the place of Huneifis and Kfar Yehoshua in the place of Tel Shaman. There isn't any place that was established in an area where there had not at one time been an Arab settlement.

Dayan's conclusion was that the solution to the Arab-Israeli problem is to learn to coexist with them.

In the misquote, the key phrase "we purchased the land from Arabs" is omitted, and thus Dayan's meaning is reversed. Dayan was not saying that Arabs were dispossessed. On the contrary, he was indicating that though Arabs sold the land of their own free will, given their presence in the region, the Israeli goal is to live peacefully together with them.

When the article is in question, the muslims and muslim sympathizers divert attention by posting historical non sense. The shippment could have gone either to Syria, Lebanon, or allow Israeli inspection before it proceeds. The inspection process is what WE would have done had a ship try to bring shipments into the country.

Try our daily interceptions of boats coming from Cuba, Haiti or other destinations.

@RalphH

...and there is NOT a single location there that was not a former Israeli territory. we could go back in time for ever and ever and ignore the facts of today.

Isreal is under siege and they are doing everything they can to preserve their existence. pulling 60 yr history out of your pocket is not reasonable.

until we can look past our noses we we will continually be caught up in short sighted "discussions".

but rockets and rpgs coming over the boarder at any place in time, do nothing to help all in the region to live together peacefully.

Procrustes-2100316 Thank you for posting the full quote in context.

RalphH you have proven your antisemitism in many previous posts, my question is what does the H stand for, Hammas or Hezbollah?

ralph, you are living in a warped reality. before judging, perhaps you should go live in ramallah for awhile and see how spiteful and hateful those people really are.

rockme, odds are Ralph already lives in Ramallah or a place close by.

How do they know what the "Palestinians" want to use the cement for? It was probably in the contract for the order.

Meanwhile, Syria bleeds without these asswipes caring a fiddler's fig. And Christians are being persecuted and killed in Egypt and other countries where they lived since long before Mohammed was a twinkle in his daddy's eye. (He just had to pick which of his wives to diddle.)

@dave who stated:

Isreal is under siege

Really? Explain this to me then?

The Israeli military calculated the number of calories that Gaza’s residents would need to consume to avoid malnutrition during a sweeping blockade imposed on the Palestinian territory from 2007 to mid-2010, according to a document that the Defense Ministry released under a court order and that was made public on Wednesday.

Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/18/world/middleeast/israel-counted-calories-needed-for-gazans-in-blockade.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

Ok dave, there is not single scrap of land here in the United States that did not at one time belong to the indigenous people of this land. If we are going to go by your rules then I suggest anyone whose ancestors were not here prior to 1492 should pack their bags. In Palestine the Jews had not controled that land for well over 2000 years, yet you want to give it all back to them, here in the States it has only been 500 years since the europeans invaded this land and the Sioux were still fighting to stop them as litte as 140 years ago. Find you different arguement because yours would not hold up in court.

Rachael

"Meanwhile, Syria bleeds without these asswipes caring a fiddler's fig"

Perhaps if your going to pretend to be a non-biased poster then you may want to use terminology that doesn't make it so obvious that you are a Zionist. Anyway, which side do you want to help in the Syrian conflict? The Rebels that Romney wants to arm are Muslim, Assad's regime is Christian. Plus there are thousands of activists world wide helping the rebels, everyday tons of supplies pour into the refugee camps in Turkey, there have been schools built, training centers to help people get employable skills, medical centers and much more. Please stop with the "oh we Jews are so persecuted" crap, because you aren't anymore. And no I am not anti-Semitic, I am anti-Zionist, there is a huge difference, that's why many of the activists are from Israel, because not even all Israeli's agree with what the Zionists are doing.

The ironic part about this whole thing is that there was persecution of the Jews under Roman Catholic rule then religious tolerance towards the Jewish people under Islamic rule from 638 to 1099 AD, but intense persecution of the jews from 1099 to 1291 under the Christian Crusader rule, and then once again tolerance and acceptance under Ottoman Islamic rule, clear up until the time the Plaestinians were forced off their land to make a new Jewish state.

Perhaps you would be much happier living in a Sharia compliant country? If you are a muslim male you will be fine, if you are female or non-muslim, your life will be less-than-wonderful. Your grasp of history is a mite skewed, but then, it probably would be too much to ask that you actually do the research, study history rather than grabbing bits that suit your narrative.

Mygirl we are heading to a christian for of sharia law, everyday I read where some evangelical mouthpiece wants to kill all atheists and gays, or force everyone to go to church. This isn't a conspiracy theory these wingnuts are saying it on the radio and video, go to right wing watch and see for your self, the threats of violence against anyone that doesn't fit their narrow view of what it means to be an American are constant from men like Bryon Fischer. I don't want any religious fanatic telling me how to live, Christian, Muslim or Jew, you are all from the same Abrahamic cult, you all worhsip a variation of primative mans Sun God, you are all wingnuts.

Primitive humans created stories to explain the rising and setting of the sun, the four seasons, the moon and the stars. Over the millennia the oral traditions became twisted and convoluted, just as when
children play that game where they sit in a circle and whisper a sentence in each other’s ears. By the time the sentence reaches the one who first whispered it the sentence no longer resembles what was originally uttered.

The God Sun soon became the Sun of God, and then the Son of God. Solar deities have been known by many names, Anyanwu, Magec, Mawu, Nagi, Wal, Yhi, Chup Kamui, Bast, Horus, Apollo, Sahmash, Helios, Baldr, and Jesus, just to name a few (there are dozens and dozens). The legends about these solar
deities are very similar. There are artistic depictions of many of the solar deities that are nearly exact to those of Christ but which were painted much earlier. Take for instance Apollo, he is always depicted with the radiant halo of Helios behind his head, resembling later artistic depictions of Jesus, or
should I say the depictions of Jesus resemble those of Apollo, and not just a little either, the plagiarism is obvious.

Not only did Christianity steal the likeness of earlier solar deities they also stole the actual story. More than one Sun God which predated Jesus’ birth by thousands of years were born of a virgin, turned water
to wine, walked on water, raised the dead, died on and cross and was resurrected. The story is as old as time itself, and for good reason, it has nothing to do with an actual being, but rather the sun and the stars as they travel through the sky.

Long before Christianity and even Judaism were even thoughts people were watching the skies and creating belief systems based on the movement of the constellations. I know most people think astrology is just some silly thing you read in the paper every morning but in reality astrology is what
every religion in the history of man was originally based on.

So someone threatens me with the wrath of God, it holds very little meaning, because no matter how “unpleased” “he” becomes with me, “he” will still rise again in the morning and will continue to do so long after I am dead and gone. I fear him only to the point that I can get skin cancer from too much exposure.

Got to love the claim "I am not anti-Semitic, I am anti-Zionist". There is a contradiction.

Being anti-Zionist, suggests that you don't believe that Jews should have a state. There is no reason to object to existence of a Jewish state unless you are anti-Semitic.

I dont care if they have a state or not eli, but if you're going to take someone elses land just because you use to live there 2000 years ago then you should expect them to put up a fight. What of the constant expansion since the creation of the "Jewish state"? pushing your borders further into Palestinian land does not make you safer, it does not give you a buffer zone, it just moves your border, it just takes more of their land. Each time you put new settlements outside your ever expanding border you then need a bigger buffer zone. We did the same thing to the indigenous people of the United States, we took their country then gave them land to live on, but as more and more whites came from Europe we took more and more of the land that we had told them was theirs and used similar excuses as what the Zionists are using. Perhaps if you stopped treating them like slaves on their own land, perhaps if you let them control their own water, sewage, electrical, etc, perhaps if you didn't bulldoze their houses and control the food that they can import and export then maybe they would stop looking at you as occupiers and start looking at you as neighbors. Listen Eli, I hated what Hitler did, I hated the fact that the Bush family financed the Nazi's, I hate that IBM supplied the computers that were used to count the Jews as they went to the gas chambers, I hate racism in any form. I do not hate the Jewish race, I hate your government and it's policies. I do not hate Arabs either, but I hate many of their governments and organizations. I do not hate Americans, I hate the scum that control our government. It is not the people who start the wars, it is the governments, the corporations, the churches, it is the few who control things that start the wars that the many must fight.

All right, dep, I will say it again. The Zionists BOUGHT the land in Palestine, starting in the late 19th century. Leopold Bloom the Dublin Jew does just that, in James Joyce's photographic portrait of Dublin at the time.

did they buy all the land they cunrrently hold? all the land they have taken? NO, in fact they had only purchased small parcels and were living in peace with the palestinians prior to the end of WWII when a much larger chunk was taken without paying for it. I know the story, before Hitler even started his extermination policy wealthy Zionists were tyring to get German and Polish Jews to move to Palestine, but many didn't want to leave their homes and businesses behind to settle in the desert. Even after the nazi's began forcing them into ghettos they refused to go.

The amount of land that was taken after the war by the Allied forces to create the Jewish state was 100 times what was purchased by the early Zionists, and that land that has been taken since the original borders were made after the war most certainly was not purchased from anyone, it was taken by force the same way the Germans took the Jews homes by force.You can't bulldoze peoples homes and force them into ghettos the same way the Germans did to you and expect sympathy from me.

Resolution 194, adopted by the UN General Assembly on December 11, 1948, addressed a host of issues, but only one paragraph out of 15 dealt with refugees created by the conflict. Resolution 194 attempted to create the tools required to reach a truce in the region. It established a conciliation commission with representatives from the United States, France and Turkey to replace the UN mediator. The commission was charged with achieving "a final settlement of all questions between ∑ governments and authorities concerned." The Resolution‚s "refugee clause" is not a standalone item, as the Arabs would have us think, nor does it pertain specifically to Palestinian Arab refugees.

Of the 15 paragraphs, the first six sections addressed ways to achieve a truce; the next four paragraphs addressed the ways that Jerusalem and surrounding villages and towns should be demilitarized, and how an international zone or jurisdiction would be created in and around Jerusalem. The resolution also called on all parties to protect and allow free access to holy places, including religious buildings.

One paragraph has drawn the most attention: Paragraph 11, which alone addressed the issue of refugees and compensation for those whose property was lost or damaged. Contrary to Arab claims, it did not guarantee a Right of Return and certainly did not guarantee an unconditional Right of Return ˆ that is the right of Palestinian Arab refugees to return to Israel. Nor did it specifically mention Arab refugees, thereby indicating that the resolution was aimed at all refugees, both Jewish and Arab. Instead, Resolution 194 recommended that refugees be allowed to return to their homeland if they met two important conditions:

1. That they be willing to live in peace with their neighbors.

2. That the return takes place "at the earliest practicable date."

The resolution also recommended that for those who did not wish to return, "Compensation should be paid for the property ∑ and for loss of or damage to property" by the "governments or authorities responsible."

Although Arab leaders point to Resolution 194 as proof that Arab refugees have a right of return or be compensated, it is important to note that the Arab States: Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Yemen voted against Resolution 194. Israel is not even mentioned in the resolution. The fact that plural wording also is used ˆ "governments or authorities" ˆ suggests that, contrary to Arab claims, the burden of compensation does not fall solely upon one side of the conflict. Because seven Arab armies invaded Israel, Israel was not responsible for creating the refugee problem. When hundreds of thousands of Arab Jews, under threat of death, attack and other forms of persecution, were forced to flee Arab communities, the State of Israel absorbed the overwhelming majority of them into the then-fledgling nation.

The Forgotten Jewish Refugees

For a host of reasons ˆ practical to parochial ˆ Israel has failed to raise the issue of the mammoth injustice done to almost a million Jews from Arab countries. The scale and premeditated state-sponsored nature of persecution that prompted the 1948 flight of close to 900,000 Jews from their homes has only recently begun to emerge. Arab publicists have sought to detach entirely the flight of Jews from Arab lands from the Arab-Israeli conflict, claiming they are two separate phenomena, and that Israelis should take up the issue with each respective Arab state that was involved, not with the Palestinian Arabs.

Clearly this is an attempt to rewrite history. One only needs to reexamine the almost prophetic article in The New York Times two days after Israel declared independence ("Jews in Grave Danger in all Moslem Lands") to confirm the tie. The New York Times reported on May 16, 1948:

"For nearly four months, the United Nations has had before it, an appeal for Œimmediate and urgent‚ consideration of the case of the Jewish populations in Arab and Moslem countries stretching from Morocco to India."

The New York Times country-by-country table estimated the Jewish population-at-risk as 899,000 people. The article cited the dismissal of Jews in the civil service in Syria, per capita ransom payment of $20,000 by Iraqi Jews seeking to leave Iraq, a forced levy on the Lebanese Jewish community to support the Arab war effort parallel to incitement and physical attacks on Jews, and Jews fleeing to India from Afghanistan. It quoted the UN Economic and Social Council report as saying:

"The very survival of the Jewish communities in certain Arab and Moslem countries is in serious danger, unless preventive action is taken without delay."

Hostility and oppression only grew, ultimately leading to the exodus of almost all Jews from all Arab and Moslem countries from Casablanca to Karachi.

How and Why Did Palestinian Arabs Leave, and Who Was Responsible?

It is important to set the historical record straight: The overwhelming majority of Palestinian Arab refugees left what was then the newly-established State of Israel on their own accord due to structural weaknesses within Palestinian Arab society and their leadership.

The pressure of wartime conditions triggered the collapse of what was already a fragile Palestinian Arab society, particularly when Palestinian Arab leaders chose to oppose the Jewish state by a show of arms rather than by accepting a UN plan for their own state. Those events set the stage for the forceful expulsion of countless other Palestinian Arabs from Jewish-held areas. That military necessity resulted after seven Arab armies invaded western Palestine with the goal of exterminating the newly born State of Israel.

On their own accord, an estimated 600,000 Palestinian Arabs fled a war zone, which their leaders had created. An estimated 250,000 to 300,000 of those refugees in 1948 left even before their homes became part of a war zone.

The human tragedy of being uprooted notwithstanding, Arab refugees were neither hapless targets nor innocent bystanders. The first stage of the 1948 war was a fierce interethnic or anti-Zionist civil war in which Palestinian Arabs were the aggressors and the initiators; the second half was an all-out war involving regular Arab armies, whose participation the Palestinian Arabs engineered.

The violent path that Palestinian Arabs chose ˆ and the ensuing fear, disorientation, and economic deprivation of war ˆ led to their own collective undoing.

The Collapse of Palestinian Society and Mass Flight

What caused the collapse of Palestinian Arab society? In part, it was the absence of an alternative Arab infrastructure after the British pulled out from Palestine. In addition, serious cleavages dating to Ottoman times existed in local Arab society. Because Palestinian Arab society had been so dependent on British civil administration and social services, Britain‚s departure left Arab civil servants jobless. As a result, most social services and civil administration ceased to function in the Arab sector, disrupting the flow of essential commodities such as food and fuel, which added to the hardships, the uncertainty, and the dangers.

In contrast, Jewish society in Palestine, or the Yishuv as it was called in Hebrew, had established its own civil society over the span of three decades under the Mandate. The Yishuv created its own representative political bodies and social and economic institutions, including health and welfare services, a public transport network, and a thriving sophisticated marketing system for manufactured goods and food ˆ in short, a state-in-the-making. It was best described by the 1934 British report to the League of Nations:

"During the last two or three generations the Jews have recreated in Palestine a community, now numbering 80,000, of whom about one-fourth are farmers or workers upon the land. This community has its own political organs, an elected assembly for the direction of its domestic concerns, elected councils in the towns, and an organisation for the control of its schools. It has its elected Chief Rabbinate and Rabbinical Council for the direction of its religious affairs. Its business is conducted in Hebrew as a vernacular language, and a Hebrew press serves its needs. It has its distinctive intellectual life and displays considerable economic activity. This community, then, with its town and country population, its political, religious and social organisations, its own language, its own customs, its own life, has in fact Œnational‚ characteristics."

And as time passed:

"Those characteristics have been strengthened and magnified in the course of the following twelve years. To-day there are in Palestine almost 300,000 Jews. There is a constantly flowing stream of men and money, new industries are being established, citriculture is expanding, new settlements are springing up, towns are being enlarged by suburb after suburb."

During that same period, the Arabs in Palestine, however, had invested all of their energies into fighting any form of Jewish polity-in-the-making. Although the British encouraged creation of an Arab Agency parallel to the Jewish Agency that had orchestrated and financed development of the Jewish sector, a similar Arab organization failed to develop.

So it was no surprise that when the British departed, the Palestinian Arabs remained unorganized and ill-prepared not only for statehood (which they rejected in any case), but also for sustained conflict with their Jewish adversaries. In the end, the war caused horrific casualties for the Jews and left thousands of Palestinian Arabs without their homes.

UN Resolution 194:

A/RES/194 (III) of 11 December 1948

"Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible;

"Instructs the Conciliation Commission to facilitate the repatriation, resettlement and economic and social rehabilitation of the refugees and the payment of compensation, and to maintain close relations with the Director of the United Nations Relief for Palestine Refugees and, through him, with the appropriate organs and agencies of the United Nations."

Deprogrammer: Actually, Israel received much less than it was originally promised by the league of nations.

Fifty-one member countries - the entire League of Nations - unanimously declared on July 24, 1922:

"Whereas recognition has been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country."

Unlike nation-states in Europe, modern Lebanese, Jordanian, Syrian, and Iraqi nationalities did not evolve. They were arbitrarily created by colonial powers.

In 1919, in the wake of World War I, England and France as Mandatories (e.g., official administrators and mentors) carved up the former Ottoman Empire, which had collapsed a year earlier, into geographic spheres of influence. This divided the Mideast into new political entities with new names and frontiers.

Territory was divided along map meridians without regard for traditional frontiers (i.e., geographic logic and sustainability) or the ethnic composition of indigenous populations.

The prevailing rationale behind these artificially created states was how they served the imperial and commercial needs of their colonial masters. Iraq and Jordan, for instance, were created as emirates to reward the noble Hashemite family from Saudi Arabia for its loyalty to the British against the Ottoman Turks during World War I, under the leadership of Lawrence of Arabia. Iraq was given to Faisal bin Hussein, son of the sheriff of Mecca, in 1918. To reward his younger brother Abdullah with an emirate, Britain cut away 77 percent of its mandate over Palestine earmarked for the Jews and gave it to Abdullah in 1922, creating the new country of Trans-Jordan or Jordan, as it was later named.

The Arabs' hatred of the Jewish State has never been strong enough to prevent the bloody rivalries that repeatedly rocked the Middle East. These conflicts were evident in the civil wars in Yemen and Lebanon, as well as in the war between Iraq and Iran, in the gassing of countless Kurds in Iraq, and in the killing of Iraqis by Iraqis, Syrians by Syrians as well as the killing of Egyptians by Egyptians.

The manner in which European colonial powers carved out political entities with little regard to their ethnic composition not only led to this inter-ethnic violence, but it also encouraged dictatorial rule as the only force capable of holding such entities together.

The exception was Palestine, or Eretz-Israel - the territory between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, where:

"The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country [Palestine] under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish National Home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions, and also for safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion."

And indeed, all religious rights are guaranteed in Israel, unlike in any other Arab country.

Basil: excellent posts, note that the little Israel bashers have suddenly gone quiet?

Thanks mygirl. We've achieved a great success even if we convert only one bigot to a more moderate view.

Like you're not "bigots" for your "cause". Israel is not having a moderate view, as if apartheid and disproportionate mass killing are "better" than Hamas. Blinders on is putting it mildly, you all can sell the Brooklyn bridge before you'll convince many people of your "rightiousness".

It's not possible to be a "bigot for a cause", a bigot is someone with broad-brush view of a certain group independent of any cause.

Israeli apartheid exists only ion your imagination, and what you call disproportionate killing is a misrepresentation. Hamas kills as many as they manage, and not one less. Israel kills as many as they have to to fight off attacks on their citizens, and not one more. Hamas did their best to maximize losses on side, by means of human shielding, just so you could make posts full of bs.

If it's "racist" for the Israelis to want a Jewish majority in Israel then isn't is "racist" for the Palestinians to want an Arab majority on the West Bank and Gaza?

Shouldn't the Palestinians be welcoming Israeli settlers with open arms?

As long as the racist policy that is known as "Zionism" is allowed to exist in Palestine the citizens of that country

There has never been any independent "Nation of Palestine". This fallacy got its start by Arafat (the Egyptian) of the PLO in the late sixties and early seventies.

The only independent state that has ever been in that part of the world is Israel.

Jeff, for the umpteenth time...the Israelis and Arabs cannot be racist against each other, because they share the same Semitic race.

Tell that to the Jews and Arabs.

Shouldn't the Palestinians be welcoming Israeli settlers with open arms?

Originally they did, but that wasn't good enough for the Zionists.

So, blowing things up and lynching people is your idea of 'welcoming with open arms"?

Interesting.

Didn't this all start with a bunch of people being strong-armed out of their homes and land?

Didn't this all start with a bunch of people being strong-armed out of their homes and land?

Yes, which is exactly the way the United States started.

Yet somehow I doubt you'd be willing to give all your property, money, and belongings back to a Native American, but still ridiculously expect the Israelis to give back their winnings to the Arabs. Ridiculous.

The history of the world is a history of conquest. You people really need to grow up and get over it.

No, it did not started with people being elbowed out of their homes, that is a myth invented by antisemites.

It started with refugees buying the land, followed by bigots not wanting them next door and starting a pointless war.

Agreed. I am sick of seeing our government's blind, unquestioning support of a country that uses military aid that is provided to them at the expense of the US Taxpayers to oppress and destroy their neighbors. They say that their neighbors are hostile. Maybe, but that's what they can expect when they start their country by stealing someone else's land.

For those that bring Syria into the matter, Syria is not under Israel occupation.

We mention Syria because thousands of people are being brutally repressed and murdered by the regime.

You know, the exact same thing you accuse the Jews of doing to the people of Gaza, despite the fact that the only place Israel has trouble (on any of her borders) is Gaza.

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Oh, and the fact that Gaza's biggest problem now is the iron grip of Hamas on Gaza, where they killed and kicked out the Palestinian Authority.

NYCat, you seem to have blinders on to Israel's contributions in science, technology, and defence, their humanitarian work in under-developed countries in Africa and Latin America (where I live) as well. What do you get for your tax dollars? Your only true ally in the Middle East, a defender of democracy and human rights, a bulwark against Islamist terror, and a nation that with God's help has shown infinite patience with its belligerent and uncooperative neighbors.

These boat people do not represent their respective countries' governments nor a majority of their citizens. They may or may not have altruistic intentions but their political bent is obvious. It is also unproductive and unwanted. They are like children who disobey their mothers to immaturely "prove their point" that they can do what they want.

Israel could obliterate Gaza in hours if it so chose. The people of Gaza are oppressed only by Hamas. Israel has been careful to make sure that Gazans have access to life's necessities but Gazans are unwilling or unable to violate Hamas' avowed purpose, to obliterate Israel and Jews from the face of the earth.

Kevin, I am sick of ignorant revisonist history regarding the boundaries and historical population of Eretz Israel and accusations that Jews are stealing land from Arabs. Arabs could have lived in peace with Jews but chose to make war with Israel since its re-creation as the sovereign state that it was, is and always will be.

Mimi Jacques has spelled it out accurately. If there are people or organizations in the world who believe that Gazans need building materials, medical supplies, educational materials, or other humanitarian items, Israel has provided a peaceful and logical method of transporting them to Gaza. Violating Israel's terms will get you publicity, a few days of vacation, and a free ride back home where you belong.

nycat - Nothing short of Israel's destruction will please you. It is so palpable. Your remarks have nothing to do with the issue on hand, you just hate jews.

Isreal is a bully ?

that is a preposterous statement. they are surrounded by nations and cultures intent on destroying them.

what should Isreal do, roll over and give give up ?

how about a stop to rockets and rpgs over the boarder and serious peace talks ?

Isreal is a bully ?

Why don't you research how it was formed and make up your mind.

Nick,

You should take your own advice, and try not to use neo-nazi or isalmist sites in your research.

NY Cat: Regarding US foreign Aid: Curious why you only focus on Israel.

Making Sense Of U.S. Foreign Aid To Egypt And Elsewhere

With Egypt in turmoil, it's widely being reported that the United States gives $1.5 billion in foreign aid to the government in Cairo each year. And with the U.S. at risk of running a $1.5 trillion deficit this year, that means it's only a matter of time before budget hawks start picking apart U.S. foreign aid.

The $1.5 billion requested for Egypt in the president's fiscal year 2011 budget puts the country fourth on the list of recipients for aid managed by the State Department and the United States Agency for International Development. Only Afghanistan ($3.9 billion), Pakistan ($3.1 billion) and Israel ($3 billion) have more aid requested for them. Most of the money for these four countries is allocated for "peace and security," a broad category that includes combating drug traffickers and terrorists as well as preventing the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. In Egypt specifically, $1.3 billion of the requested amount this year is for "peace and security."

U.S. foreign aid has a variety of goals. Among them, lifting people out of poverty, promoting democracy and economic stability worldwide, and bolstering strategic alliances. According to the government's user-friendly Web site, www.foreignassistance.gov, Uncle Sam doles out "more than $58 billion a year in foreign assistance through more than 20 agencies." More than half of that, roughly $37 billion, is managed by the State Department and USAID.

You may be surprised to learn that most countries outside of Western Europe, Canada and Australia get foreign aid from the U.S. This year the requested amount for Russia was $68.7 million. For China, it's $12.9 million. A whopping $647.7 million has been allocated for Nigeria. Even $20 million is set aside for communist Cuba. Again, these figures are the requested amounts for 2011–Congress is still trying to figure out how much to spend during the current fiscal year–and they only include aid to be managed by State and USAID. They don't include money that finds its way into these countries through U.S. regional foreign assistance offices or offices that deal with specific issues like health or agriculture.

Where does the money come from? Taxpayers, of course. But before you get entirely bent out of shape about your hard-earned cash being shipped off to Beijing or Havana, have a look at where it's going, or at least where it's supposed to be going. In Russia, for example, most U.S. foreign aid is used to promote democracy and human rights. In Cuba, all of it has been set aside for this purpose. In China and Nigeria, more than half of the requested budget for foreign aid to those countries is aimed at helping those countries fight HIV/AIDS. The U.S. foreign assistance budget for Israel is devoted entirely to security issues, but in Afghanistan it goes to a variety of projects, including education, infrastructure development and maternal and child health, as well as security.

The classic criticism of foreign aid is that it ends up supporting corrupt or authoritarian regimes. That's the question the Obama administration is going to have to sort out as the situation in Egypt evolves. However, from a purely budgetary perspective, it's not much of an issue. Total U.S. foreign aid in 2010 was about 1.7% of the U.S. budget. By any measure, the $1.5 requested for Egypt this year–down from $1.8 billion in 2006–is a lot of money. But put it in perspective. As part of the Troubled Asset Relief Program in 2008, Uncle Sam invested $100 billion in Bank of America, Citigroup, JPMorgan Chase and Wells Fargo collectively in order to prop up the financial sector. Earlier this week, Chevron reported earnings of $5.3 billion the last quarter of 2010 alone.

Does that mean budget hawks shouldn't scrutinize the $1.5 billion that goes to Egypt, or any foreign assistance for that matter? Of course not. But for those serious about reducing the deficit, foreign aid is hardly the place to start. Instead, try entitlements. Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid make up almost half of federal spending each

Regarding Israel's contributions to the world:

Science

Chemistry

Model of quasicrystals, discovered by Nobel prize winner Dan Shechtman of the Technion

• Discovery of Quasicrystals by Dan Shechtman of the Technion.^[1] The discovery led him to receive the Nobel Prize in Chemistry
• Discovery of the role of protein Ubiquitin by Avram Hershko and Aaron Ciechanover of the Technion Institute (together with the American Jewish biologist Irwin Rose). The discovery led them to receive the Nobel Prize in Chemistry.^[2][3]

Physics

Eshkol-Wachman Movement Notation

• Prediction of Quarks by Yuval Ne'eman of Tel Aviv University (together with the American physicist Murray Gell-Mann).^[4]
• Discovery of the Aharonov–Bohm effect by Yakir Aharonov and David Bohm.^[5]
• Formulation of Black holes Entropy by Jacob Bekenstein of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.^[6][7]

Optics

• World's smallest video camera - a camera with a 0.99 mm diameter, designed to fit in a tiny endoscope designed by Medigus.^[8]
• Development of the "Pillcam" by Given Imaging, the first Capsule endoscopy solution to record images of the digestive tract. The capsule is the size and shape of a pill and contains a tiny camera.^[9]

Medicine

Pillcam endoscopic capsule developed by Given Imaging

• Eshkol-Wachman Movement Notation - a notation system for recording movement on paper that has been used in many fields, including dance, physical therapy, animal behavior and early diagnosis of autism.^[10]
• Development of the Copaxone immunomodulator drug for treating multiple sclerosis. It was developed in the Weizmann Institute of Science in Israel by Michael Sela, Ruth Arnon and Deborah Teitelbaum.^[11][12]
• Development of the Interferon proteins by Michel Revel from the Weizmann Institute of Science in Israel.^[13]
• Development of taliglucerase alfa (Elelyso), a recombinant glucocerebrosidase enzyme produced from transgenic carrot cell cultures.^[14] Taliglucerase alfa won approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in May 2012 as an orphan drug for the treatment of Type 1 Gaucher's disease.^[15]

Economics

• Work of Daniel Kahneman and Amos Tversky of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem explaining irrational human economic choices.^[16]
• Developments in Game theory. Israel Aumann of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem received the Nobel Prize in Economics for his work in this field.^[17]
• The Rubinstein bargaining model, one of the most influential findings in game theory, refers to a class of bargaining games that feature alternating offers through an infinite time horizon. The proof is from Ariel Rubinstein 1982.^[18]

Biotechnology

• Nanowire - a conductive wire made of a string of tiny particles of silver, a thousand times thinner than a human hair. developed by Uri Sivan, Erez Braun and Yoav Eichen from the Technion.^[19]
• World's smallest DNA computing machine system - "the smallest biological computing device" ever constructed, according to Guinness Book of Records, which is composed of enzymes and DNA molecules capable of performing simple mathematical calculations and which uses its input DNA molecule as its sole source of energy it was developed in 2003 in the Weizmann Institute of Science by professor Ehud Shapiro and his team.^[20][21]

Theoretical computer science

• Michael O. Rabin introduced the concept of nondeterministic finite automatons.^[22]
• Amir Pnueli introduced temporal logic into computing science.

Defense

• Uzi Submachine gun - invented by Uzi Gal. The development was completed in 1955.^[23][24] The Uzi is heavily based on the slightly earlier Czechoslovakian Sa vz. 23 submachine gun. "The Sa 23 series was favored for its reliability, compact size, and full automatic fire capability. It is well known that the Sa 23 influenced Uziel Gal’s design of the Uzi submachine gun."^[25]
• Gabriel - a sea-skimming anti-ship missile.^[26]
• Arrow - a family of operational anti-ballistic missiles. Jointly funded and produced by Israel and the United States.^[27][28]
• IAI Lavi - an ambitious Israeli production of a modern fighter aircraft. The IAI Lavi was largely based on the existing American F-16 fighter jet, and controversy led to the US pressuring Israel to discontinue production and later controversy of charges Israel provided China with blueprints leading to the Chinese Chengdu J-10 fighter known to also be based on the US F-16.^[29]
• Protector USV ia an unmanned surface vehicle, developed by the Rafael Advanced Defense Systems. It is the first of its kind to be used in combat.^[30]
• Python - a family of air-to-air missiles (AAMs) built by the Israeli weapons manufacturer Rafael Advanced Defense Systems.^[31]
• Unmanned aerial vehicles - an aircraft that flies without a human crew on board the aircraft. Their largest uses are in military applications. Developed by Israel Aircraft Industries.^[32]
• Nautilus laser system - a laser developed for military use. Jointly funded and produced by Israel and the United States.^[33][34]
• Iron Dome - a mobile air defense system in development by Rafael Advanced Defense Systems designed to intercept short-range rockets and artillery shells. On April 7, 2011, the system successfully intercepted a Grad rocket launched from Gaza, marking the first time in history a short-range rocket was ever intercepted.^[35] The Iron Dome system has been heavily financed and supported by the United States government.^[36]
• Barak 1 - a surface-to-air missile designed to be used as a point-defense missile system on warships, defending against aircraft, anti-ship missiles, and UAVs.
• MUSIC (Multi Spectral Infrared Countermeasure) - a system that counter surface-to-air heat-seeking missiles. It is manufactured by Elbit Systems.^[37]
• MagnoShocker - combines a metal detector and a taser which could be used to neutralized immediately a dangerous person. It was developed by the mathematician Amit Weissman and his colleagues Adir Kahn and Zvi Jordan.^[38]
• Reconnaissance satellite TecSAR - developed and built by Israel Aerospace Industries.^[39]
• Tavor TAR-21 assault rifle - a modern assault rifle designed with the aim to be used as the IDF's standard assault rifle. The rifle was the developed by "Magen", the small arms division of the Israel Military Industries (IMI). The development of Tavor was completed in 2001. In 2005 Magen was sold to the Israeli company Israel Weapon Industries (IWI) which continues to develop and produce the rifle. The MTAR-21 (Micro Tavor) was recently selected as the future assault rifle of the Israeli Defense Forces, and within the next few years it will become the standard Israeli infantry weapon.^[40]
• Technion Satellite - launched into space in July 1998, it is one of the smallest satellites in the world. Cube-shaped satellite which has 45 centimeter-long sides and weighs 48 kilograms and has an extremely low power consumption. The Technion satellite began as a student project of the Faculty of Aerospace Engineering, supervised by Haim Eshed and initiated by Giora Shaviv, former head of the Asher Space Research Institute (ASRI) at the Technion.^[41][42]
• Wall radar - a unique radar which utilizes Ultra Wide Band (UWB) to allows users to see through walls. Developed by the Israeli company Camro.^[43]

• Arrow anti-ballistic missile

• The IMI Uzi submachine gun

• The IAI Lavi

• The Tavor TAR-21 assault rifle

• Iron Dome

Computing

Computer hardware

USB flash drive, originally marketed as the DiskOnKey

• USB flash drive - a flash memory data storage device integrated with a USB interface. The Israeli company M-Systems (in partnership with IBM) developed and manufactured the first USB flash drives available in North America.^[44] This claim is challenged by multiple companies in Singapore (Trek Technology, Malaysia and China (Netac Technology).^[45]

• Quicktionary Electronic dictionary – a tiny pen-sized scanner which is able to scan words or phrases and immediately translate them into other languages, or keep them in memory in order to transfer them to the PC. Developed by the Israeli company Wizcom Technologies Ltd.^[46]
• Laser Keyboard - virtual keyboard is projected onto a wall or table top and allows to type handheld computers and cell phones. Developed simultaneously by the Israeli company Lumio and Silicon Valley startup company Canesta .^{[47][48][49][50]} The company subsequently licensed the technology to Celluon of Korea.^[51]

Computer software

• Adi Shamir co-inventor of Differential cryptanalysis. Algorithms include Shamir's Secret Sharing.
• Lempel–Ziv–Welch algorithm - a universal lossless data compression algorithm created by Abraham Lempel and Jacob Ziv of the Technion institute together with the American Information theorist Terry Welch.^[52]
• Babylon - a single-click computer translation, dictionary and information source utility program developed by Amnon Ovadia.^[53]
• ICQ - an Instant Messaging software developed initially in 1996 by the Israeli company Mirabilis.^[54]

Agriculture

• Refinement of existing Drip Irrigation Systems by introducing a non-clogging plastic emitter. Drip-irrigation (also called micro-irrigation), was invented by Australian scientist Hannis Thill.^[55] Refinement of this idea (involving a plastic emitter) was furthered in Israel by Simcha Blass and his son Yeshayahu.^[56]
• The Tomaccio tomato was developed by Hishtil Nurseries of Israel.^[57]

• Drip irrigation at an Israeli nursery

• The Tomaccio tomato was developed by Hishtil Nurseries of Israel.

Energy

Rooftop solar hot-water system

• Super iron battery - A new class of a rechargeable electric battery based on a special kind of iron. More environment friendly because the super-iron eventually rusts. It was developed by Stuart Licht^[58] of the University of Massachusetts.^[59]
• Energy tower - Purely theoretical alternative electricity generation and water desalination technology in low cost. The Energy towers spray water on hot air at the top of the tower, making the cooled air fall through the tower and drive a turbine at the tower's bottom. The brainchild of the American physicist Phillip Carlson which was expanded by Professor Dan Zaslavsky and Rami Guetta from the Technion.^[60][61]
• A unique technology for producing hydrogen in vehicles as an alternative fuel source. It is produced by the Israeli company Engineuity and was invented by Amnon Yogev and Eli Gmaazaon.^[62]
• Improvement of previously existing flat plate solar water heaters - A home facility which converts solar energy to thermal energy. Following the energy crisis in the 1970s, The Israeli law requires the installation of solar water heaters in all new homes. It was developed by Zvi Tavor.^[63]

Consumer goods and appliances

Epilator

• Epilator (originally "Epilady") - an electrical device used to remove hair by mechanically grasping multiple hairs simultaneously and pulling them out. It was developed and originally manufactured at Kibbutz HaGoshrim.^[64][65]
• Wonder Pot - a pot developed for baking on the stovetop rather than in an oven.^[66]
• Micronized coating instant hot water pipes developed by A.C.T.^[67]
• Artificial gills - a theoretical special diving system that is not yet in production, currently being developed by the Israeli company Like-A-Fish Technologies which produces oxygen from water making oxygen tanks unnecessary.^[68]

Games

Rummikub

• Rummikub - a tile-based game for two to four players invented in Israel by Ephraim Hertzano.^[69][70]
• Hidato - a logic puzzle game invented by the Israeli mathematician Gyora Benedek.^[71]
• Taki - an Israeli card game invented by Haim Shafir.^[72][73]

Foods

• Bamba - peanut butter-flavored snack which has been manufactured by the Osem corporation since 1966. Bamba is one of the leading snack foods produced and sold in Israel.^[74][75]
• Limonana - a type of lemonade made from freshly-squeezed lemon juice and mint, created in the early 1990s after an advertising agency promoted the then-fictitious product to prove the efficacy of advertising on public buses. The ad campaign generated so much consumer demand that the drink began to be produced for real by restauranteurs and manufacturers, becoming a summer staple in Israel and other Middle Eastern countries.^[76][77]
• Ptitim - wheat-based baked pasta. It was initially invented during the austerity period in Israel when rice was scarce.^[78]
• Shkedei marak - small yellow crisp crouton squares used as a soup accompaniment.^[79]

Physical exercise

• Aviva method

See also

• Science and technology in Israel
• Venture capital in Israel
• Yossi Gross
• Start-up Nation: The Story of Israel's Economic Miracle

Nick: Why don't you read my brief lecture above about the Arab-Israeli conflict and make up your mind. You can always go to the local library and pick up some reputable (i.e., not any neo-nazi websites) sources about the early history of the Arab-Israeli conflict and perhaps you'll learn something.

NY Cat: One of very few contributions of the Arabs to the world is "novel methods of homicide." If they devoted more of their murderous ingenuity to more socially acceptable forms of research then they would be in a much better position today.

I find it quite weird that when I convey a notion that I lack anything but total support for Israel and they way it came to people- people response suggest that at the very least I frequent neo-nazi sites. I didn't expect that!

That's where people usually get the belief that Israel is a bully, no objective site would ever create such impression.

Actually much of my position is based on information from the BBC. Those nazis!

Palestinians who are suffering under Israeli occupation go through their blockade.

Please, tell us of all the suffering.

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That's right, Kevin...the greatest of all humanitarian needs are cement and children's books.

Steven B-

Do you ever watch the news? Remember the Israeli attacks on Gaza and Lebanon or the practice of home demolitions as punishment or just because some Israeli Zionist wants to take the land there for himself? How about the 1982 invasion of Lebanon or the 1967 Six Day War of conquest.

Remember the Israeli attacks on Gaza and Lebanon

The ones where Israel responded to attacks against her?

How about the Syrian occupation of Lebanon, and the takeover of southern Lebanon today by Hes b'Allah, essentially turning the villages there into fortified bunkers holding some 10,000 rockets, all aimed at Israel? These people are not the Lebanese people. They are from outside Lebanon; from Syria, Iraq, Iran and other places.

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Hes b'Allah = "Party of God" for those who did not know.

or the 1967 Six Day War of conquest.

Laughable.

Here are some of the many quotes from the time leading up to the engagement:

The link to the website is:

http://www.sixdaywar.co.uk/crucial_quotes.htm

March 8th 1965

"We shall not enter Palestine with its soil covered in sand, we shall enter it with its soil saturated in blood" - President of Egypt, Gamal Abdel Nasser [20]

Feb 22nd 1967

“it is the duty of all of us now to move from defensive positions to offensive positions and enter the battle to liberate the usurped land…Everyone must face the test and enter the battle to the end.” - President Attassi of Syria[1]

April 8th 1967

“(this battle will be)…followed by more severe battles until Palestine is liberated and the Zionist presence ended.” - Syria’s information minister Mahmoud Zubi [1]

May 12th 1967

"In view of the fourteen incidents of sabotage and infiltration perpetrated in the past month alone, Israel may have no other choice but to adopt suitable countermeasures against the focal points of sabotage. Israel will continue to take action to prevent any and all attempts to perpetrate sabotage within her territory. There will be no immunity for any state which aids or abets such acts." - PM Levi Eshkol speech [10]

May 13th 1967

Egypt must expect "an Israeli invasion of Syria immediately after Independence Day, with the aim of overthrowing the Damascus regime" [10] Soviet misinformation delivered to Anwar Sadat in Moscow.

May 15th 1967

“Israel wants to make it clear to the government of Egypt that it has no aggressive intentions whatsoever against any Arab state at all” - Israel’s Prime Minister Levi Eshkol [4]

May 16th 1967

'...I gave my instructions to all UAR forces to be ready for action against Israel the moment it might carry out any aggressive action against any Arab country. Due to these instructions our troops are already concentrated in Sinai on our eastern border. For the sake of the complete security of all UN troops…I request that you issue your orders to withdraw all troops immediately. [5] - written request from Nasser to Commander UNEF (Gaza)

"The existence of Israel has continued too long. We welcome the Israeli aggression. We welcome the battle we have long awaited. The peak hour has come. The battle has come in which we shall destroy Israel." - Cairo Radio

May 17th 1967

“All Egypt is now prepared to plunge into total war which will put an end to Israel” - Cairo Radio

"We had hoped yesterday that tension in the Israel-Syria-UAR triangle was dropping after an ostentatious Egyptian show of putting its forces around Cairo on alert. Last night, however, we and the Israelis learned that the Egyptians have moved forces into the Sinai. Now they have moved forces in front of the UN Emergency Force on the Israel-UAR border and all but ordered it to withdraw." - Memorandum From the President's Special Assistant (Rostow) to President Johnson [30 Doc 7]

May 18th 1967

“The Zionist barrack in Palestine is about to collapse and be destroyed. Every one of the hundred million Arabs has been living for the past nineteen years on one hope – to live to see the day Israel is liquidated…There is no life, no peace nor hope for the gangs of Zionism to remain in the occupied land.”

“As of today, there no longer exists an international emergency force to protect Israel….The sole method we shall apply against Israel is a total war which will result in the extermination of Zionist existence”. - Cairo Radio’s Voice of the Arabs broadcast

“Egypt has decided to terminate the presence of the United Nations Emergency Force from the territory of the United Arab Republic and Gaza Strip. Therefore I request that the necessary steps be taken for the withdrawal of the Force as soon as possible.” - Egyptian ambassador Kony informs U Thant - U.N. A/6730/Add.3 26th June 1967

“Irrespective of the reasons for the actions you have taken, in all frankness, may I advise you that I have serious misgivings about it for…I believe that this Force has been an important factor in maintaining the relative quiet in the area of its deployment during the past ten years and that its withdrawal may have grave implications for peace.” - UN Secretary General U Thant cables Cairo advising that UNEF would be withdrawn.

“The presence of the Emergency Forces in the Sinai desert had kept tensions down. We don’t have to look further for a United Nations success. Yet the Government of the United Arab Republic has made a formal request for the withdrawal of UNEF from its territory as soon as possible.

It really makes a mockery of the peacekeeping work of the United Nations if, as soon as the tension rises, the United Nations force it told to leave. Indeed the collapse of UNEF might well have repercussions on other United Nations peacekeeping forces, and the credibility of the United Nations in this field are thrown into question.” - George Brown (British Foreign Secretary), speaking at United Nations Association annual dinner in London [21]]

…”UNEF was established with the full concurrence of the United Nations…any decision to withdraw the force should be taken in the United Nations after full consultation with all the countries involved – it should not be taken as the result of some unilateral decision.” - George Brown (British Foreign Secretary), speaking at United Nations Association annual dinner in London [21]

"You are correct, Mr. President, in stating that we are having our patience tried to the limits. There have been 15 attempts at murder and sabotage in the past six weeks. We have not reacted. This in itself proves that there is no lack of temperance and responsibility on our part. On the other hand, the problem is not solved indefinitely by inaction. We cannot always rely on the stroke of fortune which has so far prevented the terrorist acts from taking the toll of life and injury intended by the perpetrators. - extract from telegram from Eshkol to Pres. LB Johnson.

http://www.sixdaywar.co.uk/crucial_quotes.htm

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Yeah, God bless them as they kill their neighbors, steal their land and break the Geneva Convention. The wicked is the aggressor. No more of our $3 billion a year to a first world country and #1 foreign aid recipient of the U.S. They give us nothing for our $3 billion yearly except words of solidarity. May God punish those that continue to oppress and kill the indigenous people of Palestine. Arabs are Semites as well. No excuses for those that were once victims who have now become the aggressors. No lessons learned.

nycat - I see you have no problem with billions going to egypt, hamas, pakistan, afghanistan and a host of countries who just want to kill us. Thank heavens for Israel.

God doesn't bless cut-throat barbarians that massacre innocent men, women and children with US supplied F-16s, AH-64D Apache helicopter gunships 'loaded for bear' with AGM-114/117 hellfire missiles designed to tear through 6" Warsaw Pact tank steel and not innocent civilians - not Palestinian mothers waving the white flag of surrender in one hand and holding on to their babies with the other, as the IDF 'scum-of-the- earth' Jews cut them down with US supplied M-16 machineguns (See: Operation Cast Lead report by Judge Richard Goldstone - currently 'parked' under US/UN Ambassador Susan Rice' size 10X fat ass, that doesn't want the UN Security Council to see what Israel's 'crimes-against-humanity' look like on paper). As for US aid to other ME countries - they aren't (except Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait - other of AmeriKKKa's low life Arab allies) out murdering innocent civiians and that includes Iran that hasn't attacked any country in 200 years.

I guess G-d is supposed to bless those who blow themselves up in crowded buses and restaurants, cut the throats of babies, stone women for immodest dress, hang people for being gay and launch rockets at civilian districts, out of their own civilian districts, so they could have their civilians would later take a bullet for them and help you make idiotic posts on the internet.

Warsaw Ghetto | Gaza Ghetto

Your attempt to link the Warsaw Ghetto and Gaza today is laughable. Only someone completely ignorant of the situation in Eastern Europe 1939-1945 could make such a comparison.

Only someone completely ignorant of the situation in Eastern Europe 1939-1945 could make such a comparison.

Or a person being paid by the Palestinians.

Or a person being paid by the Palestinians.

Perhaps.

There are an awful lot of 'useful idiots' out there, though.

Like those who vote Republican.

I like the comparison Spirit. I guess they did not learn anything from their sufferance and now they are inflicting it on the indegenious Palestinians. I commend all the Jews who do not associate themselves with israel's atrocities and Apartheid against the Palestinians, starting with the American Jewish Voice for Peace, Thank you.

Like those who vote Republican.

So, does support for Israel mean one is for the GOP?

Does that mean that those who don't support Israel are Democrats?

@Sam: I like the comparison Spirit. 

Because you're an idiot. The jews in the ghetto weren't firing rockets at German civilians to provoke the nazis. They fought back, but only after most of them had already been killed.

Grow up, sammy, and read a little. You're not smart enough to discuss this.

I guess they did not learn anything from their sufferance and now they are inflicting it on the indegenious [sic] Palestinians.

"Sufferance" implies only one suffering, does it not?

There is no suffering for any person in the region that does not attack Israel. Those are the ones suffering.

Those, plus the uncountable numbers who have died at the hands of men such as Assad (and his father), Saddam Hussein, Nasser and a host of others.

Israel lives in a dangerous neighborhood and has to be alert every single moment (even the highest holy day of the year) against existential threats.

The noises made today by the anti-Israel/anti-Jew crowd sound more feeble every day they remain silent about the tragedies in Syria, Lebanon, Libya and Egypt.

Thanks Barak Hussein Obama for your brilliant foreign policy strategy. You came into this office wet behind the ears, and now you accuse Romney of a 'lack of foreign policy experience'. I'd rather have Romney at the foreign policy helm than Obama. I've seen Obama, and I don't like what I see.

The United States cannot afford more of the failed"Lead from behind" foreign policy.

P.S. I bet Romney will get the year correct when he signs the British Royal Guestlist.

Jimme-

Political party doesn't matter when it comes to blind, unthinking support for Israel. Republicans and Democrats all seem to think that Israel can do no wrong and they don't question their line of thinking out of fear of being labeled anti-Semitic.

At _gawd, you telling me to grow up, and you are calling me names. LOLLL. You funny dude. Yes good comparison Spirit. israel is a fascist, terrorist organization. Hey gawd, you feel strong and courageous enough to call ppl names behind a computer screen you "keyboard commando" you, you stud LOLLLL

The idiocy it takes to compare Gaza to Warsaw ghetto is truly amazing.

So, did Warsaw Ghetto have active shopping malls, five-star-hotels, water parks?

Did the have one open border, through which they could go is they please?

How much aid were they receiving form around the world?

How many cannons were fired at Berlin out of that ghetto?

Was the ghetto established in response to attacks by Jews on Germans?

israel is implementing the same tactics and strategies as the nazi regarding mass punishment, bravo you have learned well. Please see Norman Finkelstein youtube videos, whose parents (RIP) died in a concentration camp, his reaction to isreal's actions...

Sam,

You haven't answered any of the questions. Not that I'm surprised.

Also, form your response it was clear that you haven't even heard of Vittorio Arrigoni. Google his name, find out exactly how he died, you will feel embarrassed beyond measure.

Eli100, tell us what you think of the Norman Finkelstein video.

I think it's a misrepresentation, like anything that self-hating fool can offer.

Now, stopbs, do stop bs and tell us what you thing about Gazan hotels, super-malls and water-parks.

BTW: They're called the UNITED SNAKES (US/Israel/NATO) Pilgrim and yes the bastards need a good ass kicking for smuggling weapons and Libyan al-Qaeda 'rebel's' into Syria to commit atrocites and blame them on the Syrian military in their attempts to make the ME safer for Jewish terrorism and US imperialism. As Russia has said (it's missile corps and elite commandos currently on alert near the Iran/Syrian border) an attack on Iran or Syria is an attack on Russia. The Chinese have said as much.

CowBoy,

Obviously, there is no point arguing ideology with you, but I would like to tell you something that will, hopefully make your teeth ache.

Have you ever been to Russia? I used to live there, and still keep in touch with my friends.

That's how I know that Russia will never lift a finger for Iran. There is no group that is hated in Russia more than Muslims (not even Jews), and if you want to know why, google "Nord Ost".

parkerjoe - please get your news and "facts" from somewhere other than deerborn mosques.

Read If Americans only Knew

=Protocols of the Elders of Zion, with a touch of Der Stürmer for seasoning.

Parkerjoe, coming from somebody who in the past has themselves stated they were of European born Jewish birth, are you a self hater? Or just somebody who just dislikes people in general?

100% correct.

The deafening silence from the anti-Israel crowd on the massacres happening just up the road from Israel speaks for itself.

Yeah, like the Iraq "massacre" which killed tens of thousands, the reasons for that Crime Against Peace of mass killings, infrastructure disaster, etc., were promoted by dual citizenship Israeli-Americans, who pushed for it "mightily".

stop bs, you still need to stop bs.

Iraq war was supported by citizens of all breeds, you don't get to pin it on just one group.

cement and kids books are what the pro palestinian guys said they have on board. So let them inspect it. What is the problem? They could have landed in Lebanon or Syria - Is is possible because Israel is the safest place in the ME ?

The rest of your vile remarks are not worth commenting on. Just keep following your mullahs lies told during Friday prayers.

Sam, I assume you mean the Rachel Corrie who sat down in front of a Caterpillar bulldozer. Now, I see many of those machines in our area...and when the scoop is lowered, the driver can't see a thing in front of him. So stop trying to make this incredibly Useful Idiot into a noble martyr.

There is also a name for the Jews who want to see Israel destroyed, along with about half the Jews in the entire world. They are called Wicked Sons.

Research, USS Liberty, Rachel Corrie (RIP)

Research October 6, 1973 and get back to me.

'Dunce!"

The Jews that want to see predator Israel destroyed are called 'Torah Jews' who have read the Torah that says that it is the Massiah that will return and establish the true Israel. What the ZioNazi's have established is a "1/2 acre of Zionist hell" created over the bodies of the Jew MFer's victims - the Palestinians and Lebanese - and now the Syrians."

Syrians are busy killing Syrians and Lebanese right now. Anyone who is not buried 6 feet under the tombston knows that.

Syrians are busy killing Syrians and Lebanese right now.

Don't forget the Turks.

At the armenian chick; you think so, they are just going to inspect??? How naive, they will confiscate and steal just like they have been doing with the land. israhell does not want the Palestinians to rebuild, but guess what, they have been living under this blockade forever, this is no set back, Palestinian freedom will prevail, and oppression never lasts, written in all history books ;)

At Cassandra, I am appalled by your statement regarding Rachel Corrie (RIP) for two reasons:

1. You would choose israelis over us Americans. Do us a favor and why don't you move there.

2. You are against all human kind. She did not sit in front of the buldozer (see footage on youtube and www.rachelcorrie.org) , they run her over and what do our elected lawmakers do about this precious American life NOTHING, but when it comes to BenGhazi (RIP Ambassador), all hell breaks loose, why because it is not against israel.

So you need to check your facts and read a little instead of getting your infos from @focksnews, Oh and one morething thing you need to grow. RIP Rachel, I hope noone will ever disrespect you like that. You will never be forgotten...

Sam,

Those who support Israel have no reason to move out. We are in the majority in USA.

There is a well known photo of your beloved Rachel Corrie burning American flag, showing exactly how you and yours feel about USA.

Israel and USA have same standards, goals and enemies, we have not conflict of interest.

If living among supporters of Israel is so unbearable for you, you are the one who should move some where, where more people agree with you, like Iran.

As for Palestinians, they can have their freedom any time they want, just as long as they accept that there is a Jewish state next door. Nothing more was ever asked of them.

What a crock - Israel is an oppressor and has killed and maimed thousands. If you're in the "majority" this is a sad, dishonest and killing country, as if it isn't already and with Netanyahoo being given a "standing ovation" by "Congress"; what a fascist warmonger so far.

They were one of the last countries, if not the last, to support apartheid South Africa, and now get to practice apartheid of Palestinians on a mass scale. If the Israelis were forced to live like the Palestinians, they would cry out for justice. Don't forget the bombing of hotels and terrorism by Israel back when.

stobs, do stop bs.

Calling Israel "apartheid" is indeed bs.

Palestinian citizens of Israel have all exact same rights as the Jewish Israelis. Gaza and West Bank have independence from Israel and would not be bothered by Israel if they were not bothering Israel.

Yes, there were times when Jews were terrorists, even than they were not using suicidal bombing or human shields.

"stopbs" they will go down with the ship. You CAN'T get them to see that. European colonialism has NEVER worked, but they keep trying.

Colonialism? Israel is not colonizing anything, they are just surviving on their own land.

Barely surviving, they could do a lot better by the world and set a good example. For example, after their "police" force arrested a "settlor" for beating up a Palestinian, because they are not taught love for them, or so it seems, the "policeman" wearing a playstation logo with an arrow on his shirt pointing to his groin is not a sign of their compassion for humanity, but shows an attititude towards the "arrest".

But that is minor compared to the utter contempt Israel shows towards the rest of the Middle East. It was Hitler, part Jewish and part possibly Christian at one time, with dark hair and eyes, trying to convince the German blue-eyed and blonde haired people that they were a "super-race" or whatever. Actually it was all propaganda to ramp up a killing machine.

It was not, however, people of the Middle-East that created the so-called "nazis". Now Israel, instead of being a humble nation, has as its "leaders" fascists who promote war and discord, not love. Oh yeah, you can't have "love" when everybody "hates" you. Everybody doesn't hate Israel, they are just sick of their actions, as are many Jewish people of peace.

Yes, Israelis actually arrest their own for beating up Palestinians, while Palestinians treat a chance to beat up an Israeli as a heroic accomplishment.

The rest of your post sound like gibberish.

And your diversion from the truth is also so peachy.

Do you have anything recent? like USS Cole, the WTC, the Ft. Hood? the recent 9/11 in Libya?. Memory loss due to ...?? may be you approve of them?

Remember the USS Vincennes.

And the USS Stark. And the Marine Barracks in Beirut. And Desert One.

Scott, nicely said, I think she is an israeli hiding behind an armenian nameor she migh be a not so smart chick. I told back then why doesn't she move there and leave us Americans alone. I told her and her kids to go fight for israel not our kids. israel is not our ally they are our ennemy, sooner or later the truth will come out. They kill our soldiers on the downlow and spy on us, and use us to fight their wars....

Thank you Scott. Never forget the USS Liberty, 8 June 1967.

The islamists posing as Americans bring up USS Liberty on every thread. For half a century they have been trying to dress up this accident as a deliberate attack, and no luck, but what else can they do.

Islamists attacked USA so many times, while Israel remains good for business, to believe that Israel is an enemy to US and islamists are not, one has to defy all basic logic. So, what else is left?

Just grasp at straws.

25.3 marked inflammatory AND no value.

Did the same to all his posts as well as poster #20 here this morning. Have a good day.

of course. They are the ones who attacked our embassy and killed 4 Americans, then placed a car bomb in a crowded street in Beirut. Who else.

farideh kashanian are you an israeli terrorist as well? the zionist are the problem, they want respect and the right to be a state while stopping others from doing the same by attacking them and then screaming that they are the true victims much like what Hitler did.

Men like netenyahu (zionists) have become just that " little eichmanns" men whos actions and demeaner resemble that of Adoph Hitler. without them the middle east would live in real peace

"The Israelis are the REAL terrorists!!!"

No, the real terrorists are the real terrorists.

Scott you are on a roll, you go boyyyyy :)

So, without Israel Sunny Muslims would not be fighting Shea Muslims, right?

What a bunch of hate filled loonies posting here. Take your medications people! You guys should seriously consider seeing if there is a free mental health clinic in your areas and make appointments. Maybe you people posting #'s 26 through 26.4 can all go in together and be seen together under a group rate!

because Israel equates 'jews" in the little minds of muslims, skin heads and radical left.