Source: Back-channel talks but no US-Iran deal on one-to-one nuclear meeting

Digital Globe / AP file

A 2004 satellite image provided by DigitalGlobe and the Institute for Science and International Security shows the military complex at Parchin, Iran, about 19 miles southeast of Tehran.

A senior administration official told NBC on Saturday that there have been back-channel talks between the U.S. and Iran about meeting bilaterally on the Iranians’ nuclear program – but that no meeting has been agreed to.

Expanding on a statement issued by the White House after The New York Times reported that there was an agreement, the official says that the backchannel talks have been done in full consultation with the allies – the P5 + 1 and Israel.

The official pointed out that there have been bilateral talks in the past – but that Iran refused to even meet with the P5 +1 during the recent United Nations meetings. He said the Iranians know there will be no agreement unless they give up their nuclear program.


Asked about the impact on Monday's foreign policy debate between President Barack Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney, the official said the administration is not happy that the story came out before the debate, but said the American people might be happy to know the administration is willing to explore all possibilities to get Iran to give up its nuclear program.

The Times, citing a senior administration official, said Iranian officials had insisted that the talks wait until after the presidential election so that they would know which president would be negotiating with them. The Times said: "Reports of the agreement have circulated among a small group of diplomats involved with Iran."

But in a statement Saturday evening, National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor said the U.S. and Iran had no such agreement: 

It's not true that the United States and Iran have agreed to one-on-one talks or any meeting after the American elections. We continue to work with the P-5+1 on a diplomatic solution and have said from the outset that we would be prepared to meet bilaterally. The President has made clear that he will prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, and we will do what we must to achieve that. It has always been our goal for sanctions to pressure Iran to come in line with its obligations. The onus is on the Iranians to do so, otherwise they will continue to face crippling sanctions and increased pressure.

World powers accuse Iran of covertly using its uranium enrichment program to produce nuclear weapons. The Iranians insists the research and development is for projects to generate electricity and produce medical isotopes.

EU agrees on wider Iran sanctions

A six-country alliance of Western powers, including the United States, has been attempting to negotiate with the Iranians, with occasional concessions by Iran and assertions that it’s willing to engage with the alliance. Despite the protracted dialogue, diplomats hope that a negotiated settlement can be reached, with international sanctions providing an incentive.

In October 2009, the U.S and the Iranians agreed in Geneva that Iran would send its enriched uranium to Russia for safekeeping, in exchange for an agreement for enough nuclear fuel for its Tehran medical research reactor. However, the deal fell apart when Iran's negotiators returned home. Iranian officials told NBC News that their supreme leader, the Ayatollah Khomeini, told them they had gone beyond their instructions. That experience has made the White House wary of any agreement that is not blessed by the supreme leader, the sole authority over nuclear decisions in Iran. 

The sanctions began to bite this summer. Hyperinflation in Iran is pushing up prices daily and the dramatic slide in the value of the rial against the U.S. dollar led to unrest in Tehran earlier this month, when angry currency traders clashed with security forces.

The European Union on Monday ratcheted up its sanctions, prohibiting transactions between Iranian and European banks and banning imports of Iranian natural gas, among other measures. 

Netanyahu: Draw 'clear red line' to stop Iran

Israel, believed to have the Middle East's only atomic arsenal, sees a nuclear-armed Iran as a threat to its existence and has expressed frustration over the failure of diplomacy and sanctions to rein in Tehran. Western nations fear that a possible strike against Iran's facilities by Israel would lead to wider conflict.

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SURPRISE!! There won't be an OCTOBER SURPRISE!!

  • 25 votes
#1 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:25 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJody-1593626Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Obama will be giving his concession speech in just 17 days! I can't wait until November 6th!

Romney/Ryan 2012!

  • 56 votes
#1.1 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:08 PM EDT

Yeah, right. Now a 'report' surfaces suddenly claiming that the White House has abandoned the strictest sanctions ever imposed upon a rogue nation and they wave the white flag.

This has Koch brothers all over it. BS!

I wonder how much money it took to convince the plant to spill the 'beans'.

Complete and total voter manipulation BS. Go Away Wrongme!! 17 more days of manure.

  • 29 votes
#1.2 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:26 PM EDT

The October surprise still has 11 days to "pop out of the cake". One-on-one talks is not enough to sway the election. It would take an alleged agreement on the elimination of production of weapons grade uranium in exchange for sanctions relief. The problem is that in order to get inspectors on the ground before the election is growing logistically improbable with each passing day.

  • 9 votes
#1.3 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:27 PM EDT

Question: .....Who you gonna believe, The WhiteHouse or The NewYorkTimes ???

Answer: ..... Neither

  • 57 votes
#1.4 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:29 PM EDT

the original October Surprise was Nixon's secret plan to end the war in Vietnam, which was as we all know, total BS. A lie to win re-election.

  • 17 votes
#1.5 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:41 PM EDT

Mike, most people believe whatever re-inforces their existing belief system. And they call it thinking.

  • 14 votes
#1.6 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:43 PM EDT

And no Prez from either party has ever done that since, hee,hee.

  • 2 votes
#1.7 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:44 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJody-1593626Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

REMEMBER the way Obama referred to the murders in Benghazi........"BUMP IN THE ROAD" and "NOT OPTIMAL" .....when you go to the polls Nov.6th. Romney/Ryan 2012!

  • 62 votes
#1.8 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:17 PM EDT

I am sure O will create a new little quip for this situation. He always has no plans, just one line jokes to diffuse his inability to have a position or show intellect...similar to a class clown.

  • 40 votes
#1.9 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:36 PM EDT

Another moron who can't get his facts straight.. We had UN inspectors in IRAQ 3 times and the last time they kept them away from certain areas before Saddam kicked them out of IRAQ , GWB warned that if they didn't allow the inspectors back and allow them to ALL areas , they would have no choice but to RESPOND and we did.. Saddam was a fool to think we were just posturing and we would never invade IRAQ and called Bush's bluff..and now Saddam is dead as is his sons....

and if you think IRAN will stop what there doing your dreaming, they will talk the same BS that north korea does says one thing to get sanctions lifted but will never stop..

someday people will get there head out of there ass... For hundreds of years Muslim hate the people of the west always have and always will..we our the great satan and infidels nothing is going to change that.. do you really think money and food aid will change there minds, NO, just like the free loaders that take advantage of the system here and get welfare and don't need it. you offer free @!$%# people will take it but doesn't mean they like you now..

  • 30 votes
#1.10 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:36 PM EDT
Comment author avatarBrit in the pitExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

There is only one way for public opinion to be heeded: install a computer to tabulate yes/no answers to a simple question and abide by the results.

E.g.:

“Do we give damn whether Iran has 5 nuclear bombs versus Israel’s 400?”

(bear in mind Russia and US both have wagon-loads of them and things seem pretty quiet)

“Should we continue to dump $billions of aid in Israel?”

“Ditto in Pakistan?”

Maybe Newsvine should consider trying a dry run referendum right here. Go ahead NBCnews, ask us a question.

  • 8 votes
#1.11 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:37 PM EDT

Brit in the pit:

Why don't you go "due lunch" with the Iranians, to ensure they will be peaceful. A bit different mentality from the USA.

  • 18 votes
#1.12 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:38 PM EDT

This is why most administrations replace most or all of the top appointed officers when they come into office. It looks like they missed a mole.

  • 13 votes
#1.13 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:40 PM EDT

Unreal.. always in October.. This is a bunch of crap.. Iran is trying to fix our election and give Obama something to help all the negative.

  • 30 votes
#1.14 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:42 PM EDT

America should give Iran Nukes, keep dropping one on them till they say , they have enough.. or till there is nothing left

  • 13 votes
#1.15 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:44 PM EDT

Look around the corner and you'll see the cows and the chocolate syrup.

    #1.16 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:52 PM EDT

    O is getting slimier and slimier.

    Remember what he whispered to Putin?

    "I will have more flexibility after the election."

    • 41 votes
    #1.17 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:54 PM EDT

    October surprise: A Unilateral strike on Iranian interest... Israel will get the blame (whether or not the USA was involved... the Muslims will blame us anyway)

    That would sway the election. Now that would be drastic and may not happen because of the specter or war but a strike of any kind would definitely be a game changer.

    Any other "guesses"... I like to here them.

    • 5 votes
    #1.18 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:56 PM EDT

    Obama the fat lady is warming up.

    • 30 votes
    #1.19 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:56 PM EDT
    Comment author avatarBigBadBampaExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Why don't we disarm Israel ? They have nukes are they not a threat as well ? Or how about we just turn off the cash tap to them ( Israel ) As we are so broke here in the U.S. the billions we save would maybe help us out.

    • 8 votes
    #1.20 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:00 PM EDT

    @Mike #1.10: Saddam was bluffing. Not because he wanted to go to war with the US. But, because he didn't want Iran to invade Iraq. Saddam was moving money, assets and WMDs (chemical and biological) into Syria prior to the second invasion. He never had a viable nuclear program...but, he couldn't let Iran know that since many of the Iraqi conventional weapons were destroyed during the first Gulf War.

    • 20 votes
    #1.21 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:06 PM EDT

    Droped off my ballet with ROMNEY checked this morning on my way to work. obama is DESPERATE and will need to be placed on suicide watch when he loses next month.

    • 32 votes
    #1.22 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:11 PM EDT

    Remember O's leadership commitment? On the anniversary of 9/11, a day when he should be on hyper alert, where could O be found?

    A featured guest on "Pimp with a Limp."

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/obama-chats-with-pimp-the-limp-dj-laz-on-911-morn/

    • 29 votes
    #1.23 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:17 PM EDT
    Comment author avatarShirley UjestExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    The slime ball teapublicans out in farce tonight.

    Vulture/Voucher 1040

    • 9 votes
    #1.24 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:23 PM EDT

    Insanity - Repeating the same action over and over again expecting different results.

    Voting for Pres. Obama twice is insanity.

    • 37 votes
    #1.25 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:24 PM EDT

    and don't call him Shirley...

    • 6 votes
    #1.26 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:28 PM EDT

    Then lets wait a little longer for the banking sanctions to work.

    If that is not enough to make them completely stand down from their nuclear ambitions then

    The Next Embargo to make the regime collapase and free the people of

    Iran, should be a refined gasoline ban(since they cant refine it themselves)

    • 6 votes
    #1.27 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:41 PM EDT

    Jody-1593626

    Obama will be giving his concession speech in just 17 days! I can't wait until November 6th!

    Actually, Romney will be doing that. Obama will be accepting it. Then we won't have to spend an additional 2 trillion borrowed dollars and thousands of dead americans for a nuclear free Iran

    • 5 votes
    #1.28 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:00 AM EDT

    ItsAboutTime:

    If O wins, we will be 4+ trillion deeper and singing the Chinese national anthem.

    • 31 votes
    #1.29 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:01 AM EDT

    Amazing timing on this article......JUST BEFORE THE NEXT PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE focusing on Foreign policy issues.

    Notice: information came from a SENIOR administration official. Uh oh.....the finger is starting to point at Valerie Jarrett.

    Andrea, you should be proud of your article.

    There are so many leaks in this administration, it is not funny anymore.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I VOTED for Romney-Ryan 2012 to take back America from the Progressives and RADICALS.

    • 31 votes
    #1.30 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:14 AM EDT

    Nora: Iran is still selling their oil but now to private companies so they're bypassing the sanctions.

    • 13 votes
    #1.31 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:34 AM EDT

    I wouldn't believe her if she was on her death bed. She has her head up Obama's butt.

    • 13 votes
    #1.32 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:35 AM EDT

    BigBadBampa: Maybe you should take a look at a world map. Little country of Israel is surrounded by Muslim countries. Iran has already threated to blow them off the face of the map, don't you think they might need to be able to protect themselves.

    • 18 votes
    #1.33 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:37 AM EDT

    Why don't we pull out and leave the whole bunch the heck alone? Because we don't have anyway of providing the energy we need to operate every day. Back in Carter's time we sit in lines on even/odd days to fill up and we where going to be energy independent....how many decades was that?

    • 2 votes
    #1.34 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:39 AM EDT

    Looks like the old angry impotent men are out in are out in force tonight. Can't get it up? Fantasize about dropping bombs. Go.

    • 3 votes
    #1.35 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:47 AM EDT

    hey brit...the difference is if a Iran gets nuke capability's they can give them to Syria, Lebanon, Egypt anybody that thinks there fighting a holy war and bomb the U.S. and its allies, why because they think were the great satan and infidels and should be destroyed..

    SO YES THATS WHY WE NEED TO AT ALL COSTS KEEP NUKES OUT OF THERE HANDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Russia has nukes but knows if they use them we will use them right back and they DO NOT want to destroyed, were as your radical muslim's who think dying for a cause will get them 75 virgins .. when all there really getting is ass @!$%#ed in hell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 11 votes
    #1.36 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:50 AM EDT

    @Joe Mota Nixon was a one term president and did set the stage to end LBJ's war. where were you.,

    • 3 votes
    #1.37 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:12 AM EDT

    Correction less then one term. remember that thing called Watergate and the tax thing that hit his Vice Agnue and then brought down the president and gave us a Ford, the communist worked overtime that year I believe Hillery was a intern in the middle of that mess. Clinton may still have been in Russia at that time. then Nixon took a liking to China, nothing makes any sense anymore.

    • 2 votes
    #1.38 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:28 AM EDT

    Mike:

    Iraq kicked out spies trying to gather military intelligence, not weapons inspectors. That invasion was a done deal. But Bush wanted as much of an advantage as he could get. I'm not surprised that Iran wants nukes. If I were running a nation that had a bully breathing down its neck, I'd want them too.

    Now, you may say that Iran's reasons are not entirely self-protective. And perhaps they are not. But disarmament would be stupid. If they were to stop their program, they might as well say "invade us now."

    • 2 votes
    #1.39 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:45 AM EDT

    D Buck...a better question would be where were YOU? Nixon served as President for over 5 and a half years. One full term, re-elected and served for just over another 1.5 years.

    • 11 votes
    #1.40 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:52 AM EDT

    GWB warned that if they didn't allow the inspectors back and allow them to ALL areas , they would have no choice but to RESPOND and we did..

    More revisionist history. Saddam in fact caved and let the inspectors back in but Bush invaded anyway. You people will say and do ANYTHING to justify a war. As for Iran their enrichment facilities fall under IAEA but I'm sure you don't give a @!$%#, and don't care to wait for proof of nuclear weapons being manufactured. You would rather just start bombing people and then make up cover stories later like you are doing now.

    • 3 votes
    #1.41 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:17 AM EDT

    "World powers accuse Iran of covertly using its uranium enrichment program to produce nuclear weapons."

    How can this be a surprise?

    Just before Iraqi wars, Sunni Saudis, extremists Jews like Netanyahus, oil companies and their lobbyists started their seventh century dances like "WMDs", "chemical weapons", "killing innocents and children" and so on!

    Their US puppets like Bushes, Clintons, McCains, Liebermanns started their dances of "line on sand" and so on!

    Now we have similar jokes on Iran.

    Iran can buy/steal nukes from Pakis. What are these cheap paid lobbyists and jokers dancing about?

    • 7 votes
    #1.42 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:39 AM EDT

    How can anybody not think Mitt "October Surprised" himself with not one, but TWO in a row gaffes on Libya?

    • 2 votes
    #1.43 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:36 AM EDT

    The latest is that Obama wants U.N. inspectors to monitor the vote in America! America is not perfect, but show me how many other country that have fairer elections?

    • 7 votes
    #1.44 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:23 AM EDT

    After the elections Obama is going to meet Ahmadinejad face to face

    and then Obama is going to KISS AHMADINEJAD'S @$$ AND GIVE IN TO ALL OF IRAN'S DEMANDS!

    Obama wants Iran to get nuclear weapons because Obama believes in the redistribution of power in the world, just as he believes in the redistribution of wealth, not just in America, but around the world!

    Then Obama will meet Putin and give him the keys to America's Missile Defense!

    And he may as well give Putin the keys to the White House while he's at it...

    .

    Obama: "THIS IS MY LAST ELECTION..."

    .

    OBAMA IS LYING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!

    TIME TO KICK HIM OUT BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

    • 15 votes
    #1.45 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:33 AM EDT

    I LIKE THAT HANDSOME YOUNG AHMADINAJIN and I am glad that BARAK IS TALKING TO HIM!!!

    I think HE IS SOMEONE BARAK CAN DO BUSINESS WITH. And I am SO EXCITED THIS IS ALL HAPPENING BEFORE NOV. 6th!!!!

    OBAMA/BIDEN . . . TOGETHER WE CAN DO THIS . . KEEPING THE DREAM (and Me) ALIVE . . YOU PAYING FOR ME!!!

    • 3 votes
    #1.46 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:19 AM EDT

    I think Ahmadinajed looks LIKE A SCIENTIST in his White Coat!!!


    He is clearly a political leader who is interested in Science & Technology, like our BARAK!! Maybe their country is not so different from ours? I hear they take care of their Elderly!!!

    BIDEN/BARAK 2012 . . . KEEP THE DREAM (and ME) ALIVE!!!!

    • 2 votes
    #1.47 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:26 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarBrandon Wagnervia Facebook

    Independent Thought - Maybe Brit can have "high tea" with Ahmedinejad, and daintily dab the corners of his mouth with a fine linen napkin, nod and accept as fact the sugary promises of the Iranian regime. We all know the current administration will bow to the ayatollahs, but Israel has been on guard from the beginning of their independent state, while making significant contributions in the technology, agriculture and, obviously, defense weaponry fields. Their enemies rely on weapons handed down from Mother Russia, and really don't improve the lives of humans on this planet in ANY way. Of course there are exceptions and brilliant scientists, but most likely can't speak out under pain of death.

    • 5 votes
    #1.48 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:38 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarBrandon Wagnervia Facebook

    Publius - there is no reason to invade Iran if they aren't building horrific weapons with which to threaten their neighbours. If you think Iran needs nuclear weapons to maintain its borders, you're delusional. I'm for disarmament, but then there's that big, nasty former Soviet Union to consider. Putin is a weasel, and he and Obama are likely from the same litter of pups, so unless you folks welcome apocalypse or iron-fist world government, make the right decision.

    • 8 votes
    #1.49 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:52 AM EDT

    Sarcasm.

    Yeah baby ... lets have another war. Kill'em all. Love from Texas.

      #1.50 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:03 AM EDT

      Independent Thought

      ItsAboutTime:

      If O wins, we will be 4+ trillion deeper and singing the Chinese national anthem.

      Thanks to R$mney and the GOP, many workers are already singing the Chinese National Anthem. Many of their jobs were outsourced there. Obama has not exported our jobs to China.

      P.S. The GOP votes 19 times during the Bush years to raise the debt ceiling. Hmm.. Fiscal responsibility? I think not. The American people need to demand a balanced budget amendment for both sides to adhere too

      • 1 vote
      #1.51 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:03 AM EDT

      what gaffe would that be?

      Barry has LIED about Libya and you are worried about a gaffe?

      They KNEW and did NOTHING!

      http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57536524/before-death-amb-stevens-warned-of-violent-libya-landscape/

      On August 2, six weeks before he died, Stevens requested "protective detail bodyguard potions," saying the added guards "will fill the vacuum of security personnel currently at post who will be leaving with the next month and will not be replaced." He called "the security condition in Libya ... unpredictable, volatile and violent." It's not known what happened to that request.



      BIDEN/BARAK 2012?

      You do know Biden is VP and you don't even know how to spell Obamas name? GEEZ!!!!!

      • 9 votes
      #1.52 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:18 AM EDT

      Wow, imagine that. a president that knows how to end wars and conflicts without killing off our young men. amazing. Imagine a peace deal instead of a nuclear explosion. Gee I wonder who I SHOULD VOTE FOR.

      Obama Biden/2012 (but only if you love our troops)

      • 2 votes
      #1.53 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:33 AM EDT

      Remember when Obama told us that he would simply sit down, face to face, with the Iranian leadership and this would all be resolved. He didn't even attempt it. Instead, he sent Hillary on a year and a half wild goose chase of trying to negotiate with Iran. While the Iranians used the "negotiations "as a stall tactic. During that time frame they increased the number of centrifuges making enriched uranium, beefed up their conventional arsenal and worked on missile delivery systems. At the end of that year and a half we didn't even have the outline of an agreement. The "talks" utterly failed. And no progress towards an agreement has been made since then. Zero, Instead Iran is now engaging in cyber warfare attacks on our financial institutions, aiding Assad in Syria, assisting terrorist throughout the region, etc...

      FAILURE.

      • 12 votes
      #1.54 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:51 AM EDT

      Asked about the impact on Monday's foreign policy debate between President Barack Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney, the official said the administration is not happy that the story came out before the debate, but said the American people might be happy to know the administration is willing to explore all possibilities to get Iran to give up its nuclear program

      I blew my coffee out of my nose with this one! Now all O'bama has to do is convince us that he called the Benghazi incident a terrorist attack from day one! Get the transcript Candy!

      All you have to do is fool half the sheeple...most of that half is looking to get fooled.

      • 14 votes
      #1.55 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:04 AM EDT

      O'Bagger has already sold Iran the nuke bomb.. Remember the advanced stealthdrone O'Bagger landed in Iran fully intact? Wonder how many pieces of silver O'Baggerwas paid? The double face to double face talks with Adickinobma & O'Mooslime is an attempt to keep Libya out of the Debate..NO RECORD NO PROBLEM JUST LIE...............

      • 8 votes
      #1.56 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:26 AM EDT

      Dear students calculate: Carter + Reagan + Mola + Cake>< Obama + Romney + Mola + Nuke>< another 33 years misery

        #1.57 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:04 AM EDT

        Look for the LIAR in our WHITE HOUSE to pull an underhanded deal---remember that he TRIED TO CUT A DEAL with the PUKIN--DON'T UNDERESTIMATE the pile of camel crap--the OBAMANATION has been known to LIE his way out of things and CREATE a CRISIS ---

        WOULD NOT be surprised if the OBAMANATION were to cause something to happen so he could STOP THE ELECTION---and KEEP his crown ---OBAMA IS NOT TO BE TRUSTED at all!!

        Obama is an insolent, militant, incompetent, narcissistic, execrable, America-hating slug.
        He is an opportunistic community agitator and a dishonest predator, constantly on the prowl for a situation or occurrence that he can exploit to benefit his agenda, no matter how it affects the future of the nation. He hates American culture, American values, and American people. He hates the Constitution of the United States, and he abhors the Declaration of Independence.

        He is a Godless worm who is in favor of continual government intervention so as to alter the courses and lives of those who are the least fit to survive and prosper.

        He is for Affirmative Action, political correctness, welfare, never-ending unemployment benefits, unbridled labor union power, globalism, wealth redistribution, restriction of free speech and movement, energy-based strangulation of business and prosperity, punishment through taxation, and the ridiculous notion that human beings can affect the climate.

        He has a progressive, leftist, talking-point excuse for each and every one of his patriotic, social, intellectual, and contributory shortcomings, of which there are many.

        He is pathetic. He is Liberal.He is Marxist.He is a Democrat. He is Barack Obama.

        Most disconcerting of all, he is the “President”.And a poor one at that!

        he is EVIL, also include delusional, and deranged to the point of being mentally unbalanced. And him as our president, What a NATIONAL DISGRACE along with being a threat to our National Security!!!

        NOBAMA or OBIDEN on 2012 OR EVER AGAIN----America will be a far better place WITHOUT THEM!

        • 7 votes
        #1.58 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:19 AM EDT

        These "talks" will be just another reason for the U.S. and Israel to attack. It's just a way to say we gave them every chance.

        It's also a way to make Obama look like he's actually trying to do something concerning foreign policy after the fiasco in Benghazi.

        Bottom line; it's not going to work. Obama has had 4 years to do something about Iran and he chooses now, 17 days before election day to start talks with Iran. Could the reasoning be more obvious?

        • 8 votes
        #1.59 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:14 PM EDT

        ItsAboutTime-3704531

        (First off, Romney was not incharge of Bain when the jobs were out sourced 'Use Fact Checker' and then you have OBAMA the Man of the Hour. This is what you call a two faced liar. Blaming someone for what they ARE NOT doing and then turn around and do it yourself and say it's ok.)

        Independent Thought

        ItsAboutTime:

        If O wins, we will be 4+ trillion deeper and singing the Chinese national anthem.

        Thanks to R$mney and the GOP, many workers are already singing the Chinese National Anthem. Many of their jobs were outsourced there. Obama has not exported our jobs to China.

        P.S. The GOP votes 19 times during the Bush years to raise the debt ceiling. Hmm.. Fiscal responsibility? I think not. The American people need to demand a balanced budget amendment for both sides to adhere too

        #1.51 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:03 AM EDT

        Follow The Jobs

        A Record Of Failure Spanning The Globe

        Over his four years in office, Obama promised that he would focus on creating "jobs that pay well and can't be outsourced." However, as he racked up trillions in new debt, billions of dollars did go to create jobs that were outsourced or spent overseas. Whether it is electric cars made in Finland or solar panels in Mexico.

        Taxpayers would be astonished to learn that their hard earned money went abroad for jobs that weren't created in the United States.

        "And I will invest $15 billion a year in renewable sources of energy to create five million new energy jobs over the next decade - jobs that pay well and can't be outsourced; jobs building solar panels and wind turbines and a new electricity grid; jobs that will help us eliminate the oil we import from the Middle East in ten years and help save the planet in the bargain. That's how America can lead again."

        President Barack Obama, October 30, 2008

        Tracing Obama's Overseas Investments

        Electric Cars

        Obama handed over billions of dollars in loan guarantees and stimulus awards pursuant to his goal of putting one-million electric vehicles on the road by 2015. Much of that money ended up leaving our shores. A $2.4 billion stimulus program to support battery production sent nearly half of its money to foreign firms, including two South Korean companies that used their awards to hire foreign nationals in Michigan to do work that Americans easily could have done. In the end, despite all the money Obama handed out, electric vehicle sales have lagged and The Washington Post deemed his goal of one million electric cars "overly optimistic."

        Wind Farms

        Obama's stimulus included over $8.5 billion in grants for wind farms that flowed overseas, despite Congressional criticism from both sides of the aisle. In total, over half of the money went to either foreign developers or foreign wind turbine manufacturers, creating thousands of jobs overseas with money that was supposed to create jobs within the United States. Even worse, hundreds of millions of dollars went to wind farms that began construction before the stimulus was passed. The end result of all this spending: the wind energy industry lost 10,000 jobs last year.

        Manufacturing TaxCredits

        As Obama was doling out over $2.3 billion in clean energy manufacturing tax credits that were supposed to create jobs in America, $880 million went to foreign firms. Worse still, some of those same recipients are now closing up shop and shipping jobs overseas.

        Loan Guarantees

        Remember Solyndra? The problems with Obama's loan guarantee program don't end there. The largest recipient of Obama's program to jumpstart green energy projects was the Spanish Company Abengoa, which took in $2.7 billion in loan guarantees for three of its projects. Other projects importing foreign-made solar panels are, much in the same way as Fisker Automotive, choosing to make their products overseas.

        Switzerland

        Swiss-Based Landis+Gyr Received Over $50 Million In Stimulus Contracts For Their Smart Grid Meters. Cathy Zoi, A Former Obama Energy Department Official, Held Over $250,000 Worth Of Stock In The Company As They Profited From Her Department's Policies. Zoi Had Previously Served As An Executive Director At Landis+Gyr Before Joining The Obama Administration.

        China

        Stimulus Funds

        North Carolina-Based LED Maker Cree Inc. Received Over $39 Million Through The Stimulus And Later Opened Its First Plant In China. Over Half Of The Company's Employees Are Now Located In China And Cree's CEO Says The Company's Strategy Is "Cree Chip, China Heart."

        Loan Guarantees

        Sempra Received A $337 Million Loan Guarantee For An Arizona Solar Plant. The Solar Panels Will Be Supplied By SunTech, A Chinese Solar Panel Manufacturer.

        Jobs Council

        General Electric Cancelled An Order From Wind Turbine Manufacturer ATI Casting In Order To Get The Parts Cheaper From China. After ATI Offered To Match The Price, GE Still Refused The Order. ATI Was Forced To Layoff 302 Workers Due To The Move.

        General Electric Has Also Been Criticized For Using Chinese Made Wind Towers Over American Towers At The Stimulus Funded Shepherds Flat Wind Farm In Oregon.

        Stimulus Funds

        Solar Power Industries Received A $5.4 Million Stimulus Grant Before Laying Off American Workers Based On An Increased Reliance On Imports From China.

        Finland

        Loan Guarantees

        After Receiving A $500 Million Loan Guarantee, Fisker Automotive Is Producing Their $100K Luxury Electric Sports Car In Finland.

        Denmark

        Stimulus Grants

        Subsidiaries Of Danish Wind Mill Maker Vestas Received $51.6 Million In Stimulus Grants To Build U.S. Based Factories. They Have Announced Plans To Layoff 180 U.S. Workers And Possibly Another 1,600 By The End Of The Year.

        Stimulus Grants

        The Windy Flats Project Began Construction Before The Stimulus Was Passed, Received A $218 Million Stimulus Grant And Used Wind Turbines Assembled By Seimans In Denmark.

        Stimulus Funds

        Danish Catalyst Company, Haldor Topsoe, Received A $25 Million Stimulus Award For The Construction Of A Demonstration Scale Biorefinery.

        South Korea

        Stimulus Funds

        Two Korean Manufacturers Of Electric Vehicle Batteries Were Given $300 Million To Build Plants In Michigan. Union Workers Are Now Claiming That Foreign Nationals Are Being Brought In To Fill Jobs That They Could Take. The Department Of Energy Has Admitted That 11 Of The 18 Contractors On Site Are Asian Firms.

        Stimulus Grants

        The Gulf Wind Project Received A $179 Million Stimulus Grant And Sourced The Parts From South Korea, As Well As Japan And Mexico.

        Australia

        Stimulus Funds

        The Melanoma Institute of Australia received a $162,000 stimulus contract to supply the National Cancer Institute with tumor samples.

        Mexico

        Stimulus Funds

        SunPower Admits That Some of the Solar Panels for the $1.3 Billion Stimulus Backed California Solar Valley Ranch Will Be Manufactured At Their Facility In Mexico Rather Than Their Facility In California.

        Stimulus Funds

        ABB Inc. Received Over $16 Million in Stimulus Funds to Create Green Energy Manufacturing Jobs, the Company Has Laid Off Workers in the U.S. and Transferred Work To Mexico.

        Dominican Republic

        Stimulus Funds

        Parago Used Stimulus Funds to Hire Hundreds of Workers in El Salvador and the Dominican Republic to Administer a Renewable Energy Appliance Rebate Program.

        New Zealand

        Stimulus Funds

        A $817,000 Stimulus Contract Was Awarded To New Zealand's Connexionz To Install Bus Monitors For The City Of Santa Clarita. A Local Contractor That Could Have Performed The Work Objected To The Funds Going Overseas.

        Thailand

        Bailout Funds

        After Taking A Taxpayer-Funded Bailout, General Motors Opened A $200 Million Plant In Thailand To Supply Diesel Engines For The Chevrolet Colorado Pickup Truck.

        Vietnam

        Jobs Council

        General Electric Opened A $61 Million Factory In Hai Pong To Produce Wind Turbine Components. GE's CEO Jeffery Immelt Chairs The President's Jobs Council And The Company Has Received Over $1.2 Billion In Stimulus Funds.

        Italy

        Stimulus Funds

        Brevini Wind Was Given A $12.75 Million Tax Credit To Build A Facility To Manufactuer Wind Turbine Gearboxes In Indiana. Over Two Years Later The Company Has Only Hired 70 Of The 450 Workers Promised And The Company Has Announced They Do Not Expect To Be Operating The Facility Until Late-2013.

        Cashing In

        Italian Wind Turbine Manufacturers Pulled In Over $84 Million In Cash Grants Through The Stimulus' 1603 Program.

        Russia

        Stimulus Funds

        Ener1 Received Over $118 Million In Stimulus Funds To Produce Vechicle Batteries. After Going Bankrupt, It Was Acquired Outright By A Russian Investor, Sparking Security Concerns Surrounding The Company's Work for The U.S. Military.

        Germany

        Stimulus GRants

        E.ON Climate & Renewables Received Over $440 Million In Stimulus Grants For Wind Farms That Began Construction Before The Stimulus Was Passed.

        Stimulus Grants

        At Least 25 Wind Turbines For Stimulus Funded Projects Were Supplied By German-Based Nordex.

        Luxembourg

        Stimulus Funds

        Luxembourg-Based ArcelorMittal's Subsidiary Received $31.5 Million In Stimulus Funds For A Waste Heat Recovery Unit.

        El Salvador

        Stimulus Funds

        Parago Used Stimulus Funds to Hire Hundreds of Workers in El Salvador and the Dominican Republic to Administer a Renewable Energy Appliance Rebate Program.

        Great Britain

        Stimulus Funds

        $39 Million In Stimulus Funds Went To Navistar For Electric Delivery Trucks That Are Manufactured In Coventry, England.

        Stimulus Grants

        British Private-Equity Firm Terra Firma Received Over $40 Million In Stimulus Funds Through An American Wind Consortium It Bought Just Days Before The Stimumuls Funds Were Awarded.

        India

        Stimulus Grants

        India-Based Suzlon And Its Subsidiaries Installed Over 200 Wind Turbines Under Obama's Stimulus Grant Program With Most Of The Materials Coming From Its Operations Overseas.

        Spain

        Stimulus Funds

        Spain-Based Iberdrola Renewables Received $1.5 Billion In Loans And Grants And Claimed It Created Over 15,000 American Jobs But The Company Only Has 850 U.S.-Based Employees.

        Stimulus Grants

        Madrid-Based EDP Renewables Received Over $100 Million In Grants For Their Wind Farms and Announced In September 2011 That They Were Planning To Lay Off 10% Of Their North American Workforce.

        Indonesia

        Stimulus Funds

        The EPA Gave A $1.5 Million Grant To Indonesia To Reduce Air Pollution In Jakarta.

        Japan

        Stimulus Grants

        Japanese-Subsidiary Eurus Energy Received $91.4 Million In Stimulus Grants For A Wind Farm Completed Before The Stimulus Was Passed And Used 180 Turbines Manufactured Overseas By Mitsubishi.

        France

        Cashing In

        French Wind Farm Developer EnXco Pulled In Over $69 Million In Cash Grants Through The Stimulus' 1603 Program.

        • 8 votes
        #1.60 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:20 PM EDT

        Don't worry Iran, barry says he will have more "flexibility" after the elections.

        • 1 vote
        #1.61 - Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:24 AM EDT

        The October surprise...Obama throws Israel under the bus!

        The indirect repercussion of direct U.S.-Iran talks

        The important question is not whether there will be a publicly acknowledged dialogue between the U.S. and Iran, but what concessions Washington will offer or may have offered Iran to consent to a dialogue.

        http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/the-indirect-repercussion-of-direct-u-s-iran-talks.premium-1.471390

        The lead headlines in Israel about a breakthrough in talks with Iran didn't seem to impress the Iranian media very much. Websites and newspapers affiliated with the regime and the Revolutionary Guards contained no references to Iran planning to or agreeing to launch direct talks with the United States, nor were there any hints of some back channel opening between the two countries.

        On the contrary, the Iranian media on Sunday were full of anti-American and anti-Israel diatribes; with threats to respond to any attack by using sophisticated UAVs and allegations that Israel and the U.S. were responsible for "the terror attacks in Iran and Lebanon."

        • 4 votes
        #1.62 - Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:31 AM EDT

        You know this may be a forum, but everyone needs to quit qubling like a bunch of 2 year olds and quit pointing fingers. ALL of them have had there fingers in it, and those that are actually racist and saying they aren't BS, Barry? That is a racist comment...Hey whether You VOted for him or not..He is The President, whether you disagree or not, as his office he deserves the respect. I would like to see you do the job. The President of The United States is a job that I would never want.

        Indeoendant Thought-If that is what you call yourself than think indeendantly and get off the Tea Rag mannia that is now destroying this country even more, which has turned out to be a way for Corporate America to find a way to put Common Americans deeper into the abyss and held tighter under their grip. The Chinese do own a large amount of the National Debt, almost $1.2 Trillion worth, Japan ownes $1.08 Trillion, not far off. How much is the National Debt? $15 Trillion? So how does that translate into the US being owned by the Chinese as they holdwhat about 8% of the National Debt and Japan has ownes just over 7%, so lets say it is 8% as well. That only equals 16% to 2 Asian Nations. Who is the biggest holder of National Debt? That would be the Social Security Trust fund with over $2.5 Triillion in holdings, you didn't know that the government invests your SSI that you pay out of your check? The second biggest holder is the US Federal Reserve itself with over $1.6 Trillion in holdings. Some of the other gbig holders of National Debt are US Pension Funds $900+ Billion, US Mutual Funds $790+ Billion, US State and Local Governments $440+ Billion, US Trust Frunds $324+ Billion, US Banks $280+ Billion, US Insurance Companies $250+ Billion. Just in the top Debt Holders which are mostly US holdings thru Companies and are own Government is over $8 Trillion whichh is over 50%. Lets see 16% from Asia (China and Japan) that is 66%. So that leaves 34% that is owned by wealthy people thru-out the Globe and various Corporations thru-out the world that invest their funds for their stock holders. So Who OWNES this country? Albeit at the moment Our Government ownes the majority, with Corporate America and the Wealthy climbing up fast. Than at that time, you might see America get sold off to the HIGHEST BIDDER. And where did Obama every whisper to Putin that he will have more flexibility after he is elected? Everyone needs to quit their F'N slandering and do something. A political revolution "VOTE ALL INCUMBENTS OUT OF OFFICE!" Do not let ANYONE hold more than 2 terms. In fact RIGHT NOW, NO MORE THAN 1 term. Than the BLOOD SUCKING REPUBLICANS ANS DEMOCRATS (POLITICIANS) might get a F'N clue that they 2 year old temper tantrums and lieing to the PEOPLE of This Great Country "WILL NO LONGER BE TOLERATED!" And that they "BETTER DO THE JOB THEY WERE ELECTED TO DO!" It took Bush 8 years to defunct this country, and you expect someone to fix it in 4 years...now that is being a hypocrite, anyone.

        Times-Running-Out- You have done a bit of your homework. Was their anything in the stimulus projects that prohibited off shoring, unfortunately not. Federal Funds being used for the New Oakland Bridge. Federal Job everything is to be US MADE. How come the Bridge is being made in China and shipped to the US Piece by Piece. Cause CA passed a law that states they do not have to follow the Federal Law, which now inturn is going to bite them in the a** cause the Feds are trying to PASS a law that ANY STATE breaks the FEDERAL LAW can lose funding. Like they give a s**t, CA is ran by Corporate America.

        Want a reason why this country is Bank-Rupt. You have no further to go than look in the MIRROR. You believe all the Rhetoric and Propoganda and than Spew it out in these forums acting like it is your own thoughts. You allow the Power Hungery Political Parties, Media, and Wealthy make your choices for you.

        He is a piece that lays no blame on the National Debt:

        you would be wise to read it. And it lays no blame on anyone.

        And you want a history of the Debt look here: #Changes_in_debt_by_political_affiliation

        This lays no blame either. Has all kinds of charts and information going way back explainging the National Debt.

        If you want to believe the Rhetoric and Propoganda that the Political Parties and Politicians put out go ahead, YOU ARE THAN THE FOOL AND ONE OF THE CAUSES OF THIS COUNTRY GOING DOWN HILL. This was a Great Country, we had our flaws, but we were great, now we are a shadow, which started happening by 2004.

        You think a religous Mormon doesn't LIE...Read the Real Rommney. I am not saying he isin't a good guy, cause he is. But he has his own at heart, not the people of this country. Obama, I think he meant well, but he wanted a name, to go down in history as the first US Black President. Now I think he has gone beyond that. No matter who is President, the House and Senate Control the country. The President signs the Bills into Law that are presented to him as being ratified by BOTH Houses of Congress. The President may be The Commander In Chief of The US Armed Forces, the TOP US Government Official, But Congress controls EVERYTHING. And when you have one part of CONGRESS (The House) That is in a constant STALE MATE because they are almost 100% Paritsan, there is your problem. The Senate is almost 50-50 and the DO WORK Together. The House is a BUNCH OF 2 YEAR OLDS. You Really want to set BLAME, as I said LOOK IN THE MIRROR and Look at THe House Of Representatives, and You WILL HAVE WHO IS TO BLAME.

        • 1 vote
        #1.63 - Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:20 PM EDT
        Reply

        Iran agrees to one-on-one nuclear talks, US sources say

        “The United States and Iran have agreed for the first time to one-on-one negotiations over Iran’s nuclear program, according to Obama administration officials”.

        Now only 10 minutes later….White House denies agreement with Iran on one-to-one nuclear talks

        It’s obvious the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand’s doing!!! I hope they can get their act together in time for the next debate.

        What an embarrassment!

        • 23 votes
        #2 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:32 PM EDT

        it is the reporter who should be embarrased. obviously they went to press with bogus information. nevertheless, watch for the Robme crowd to jump in with both left feet.

        • 22 votes
        #2.1 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:35 PM EDT

        Whoever leaked this is going to increase the unemployment numbers.

        • 7 votes
        #2.2 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:14 PM EDT

        Joe....If you believe that the NY Slimes posted this fraudulent story without first consulting with the WH and the community organizer...you're more naive that I would have guessed. I can't wait to hear the explanation that comes Tuesday night

        • 20 votes
        #2.3 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:16 PM EDT

        The original report was nothing more than disinformation coming out, being prompted by Iran, as a way for them to try and buy more time to complete their work before concrete action id taken to stop them. This has been a recurring theme with the Iranians. Every time it looks like it is coming to the brink of military action taking place the Iranians start making overtures about negotiating and reaching an agreement. They stall and stall on a date for the talks and then when the talks finally do occur all anyone hears from the Iranians is more of the same nonsense they have been spouting for years. They are just hoping they can continue to stall action until they have a working weapon. In the mean time they continue to enrich large quantities of uranium to a 20% enrichment level. This level is far above the 3-5% that is needed to fuel a commercial power reactor. This level of enrichment is only needed for two things, to power a medical research reactor and as a precursor to further enrichment to 90%+ weapons grade material. The Iranians already have enough uranium enriched to this 20% level to power a whole slew of medical reactors when they are only building one. This makes it pretty clear what they ae doing. They are stockpiling 20% enriched material so that they can rapidly produce weapons grade material when they are ready. This is also borne out by the fact that they continue to install ever larger quantities of advanced centrifuges in their hardened Fordo facility, whose real purpose is to take the 20% enriched material up to weapons grade. This, coupled with their refusal to allow IAEA inspections of some of their nuclear sites makes it pretty clear that they are pursuing weapons. The only way Iran can avoid military action at this point is to halt all enrichment activities and open all of their nuclear facilities up to IAEA inspection without any notice required. This is something they are never going to agree to and all this talking and all the sanctions are not going to stop them in their quest for nuclear weapons. You would have to be blind or totally naive to think that this is going to end with anything other than either a nuclear test detonation in Iran or the Iranian nuclear facilities being completely destroyed by military strikes. This latest nonsense about talks is just their latest attempt to stall so that they achieve the former (a successful nuclear test) before the latter (destruction of their facilities) occurs. I wish there was a third choice because I do not relish the idea of the west having to bomb Iran, but I really do not see the Iranians giving us any other choice if we want to prevent them from getting nuclear weapons.

        • 14 votes
        #2.4 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:18 PM EDT

        ceo, an intelligent person looks for the most likely explanation. someone like you whose mind is corrupted by partisanship pounces on the explanation that slimes the other side, like a starving dog on a scrap of meat.

        • 10 votes
        #2.5 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:27 PM EDT

        How does BS taste? Because YOU'VE been eating it. I don't. Planted bogus story. PURE BS.

        • 3 votes
        #2.6 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:27 PM EDT

        Fine. Then why don't YOU hop on the next plane to Tehran FIRST, JS. Go straighten everything out over there. Take your kid with you, too. Go give Ahmadinejad, the Ayatollahs and the Mullahs a piece of your mind. As for the rest of America, we'll be waiting to see how you warmongers make out.

        • 10 votes
        #2.7 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:30 PM EDT

        JS, this is Iraq all over again. the difference is an n instead of a q. And the crazy leader has a different name. Yet the neocons are clamoring for the same response. bombing, invasion, waste $2 trillion or more in a vain effort to convert a middle eastern country into something we find more palatable. It's insane. Iran is squirming under the sanctions and our partners seem willing to hang in there and tighten even more, if necessary.I doubt Obama would make the same tragic mistake Bush made; not so sure about Romney.

        • 13 votes
        #2.8 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:32 PM EDT

        the story was obviously planted by Bob Schieffer to boost the Nielsen ratings for the next debate. case closed.

        • 3 votes
        #2.10 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:15 PM EDT

        It took them 14 days to admit to something we all new was happening on the guess what yeah anniversary of 9/11, keep drinking the cool-aid

        • 12 votes
        #2.11 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:42 PM EDT

        NYT's is O's best friend, always has been. No way it was a republican plant.

        • 12 votes
        #2.12 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:43 PM EDT

        Iran is trying to influence the election.. Give there friend Obama a little push forward.. Dont let this sway you.. They wont sign til after the election, and we all know they wont agree to nothing.. But, Obama will use this for the debate.. what a wessil

        • 13 votes
        #2.13 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:47 PM EDT

        lunk head, a bunch of Mohammeds took flying lessons, learning to take off in passenger jets. but skipped the class on landing. the admin was focused on getting tax cuts for millionaires and didn't notice. 3000 americans died and icon of American prosperity destroyed, while Bush was reading a children's book upside down..... I drink scotch.

        • 6 votes
        #2.14 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:09 PM EDT

        Joe:

        an intelligent person looks for the most likely explanation.

        Yes...and the most likely explanation, is that the WH was in collusion with the NY Slimes, to get out a story just before the Tuesday debate.... that talks between Iran and the U.S. were at hand.....but somebody effed it up. But because of your biased naivety, you've got your head stuck in the sand, refusing to recognize the obvious. So spare me the lecture on partisanship. I'm guessing you also swallowed the Kool-Aide on the Benghazi YouTube video explanation.

        • 8 votes
        #2.15 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:10 PM EDT

        ceo, conspiracy theories are always "obvious" to people with pre-formed opinions. The fact is, conspiracies are hard to pull off. If there's a shred of evidence pointing to your hare-brained conspiracy theory based on your political affilation, I'd be shocked. Pay attention, you might learn something about yourself.

        • 6 votes
        #2.16 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:17 PM EDT

        Joe - In an earlier post you site the Nixon October surprise of 1968, no problem there......yet you now find it implausible that this administration would craft a news story in conjunction with a news paper, which they screwed up, that strongly supports the administration...casting a favorable light on it's foreign policy, just before an important debate. Take a look in the mirror, the fact that you can't acknowledge this possibility speaks volumes as to your political perspective. And I can understand why you would be shocked. Not only are you naive, but also a hypocrite.

        • 3 votes
        #2.17 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:47 PM EDT

        Hey Joe: I just found this beautiful piece of work....and you're accusing me of conjuring up hair-brained conspiracy's....gotta love the warped mind of the left.

        hmmmm, now who would benefit from a bogus story designed to make the Obama admin seem confused??? Who could possibly be trying to create a foreign policy issue out of nothing but a lie???? hmmmm, now who could that be???? SATAN????

        • 1 vote
        #2.18 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:00 AM EDT

        Joe Mota: How about the 3+years the terrorists planned the attack on Bill Clinton watch. Clinton cut back on the CIA because he said the Cold War was over anyway and then he went back to the Oval Office to get some work done with Monica. Bill Clinton should be blamed 100% for the 9/11 attacks on US soil and Pres.Obama should be blamed 100% for the attack on our Libyan Embassy that killed 4 very brave Americans.

        • 8 votes
        #2.19 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:41 AM EDT

        Believe, how about the 9 months Bush slept through his presidency, dropping the ball and allowing 3000 Americans to die in a terrorist attack and then sending another 4,000 Americans to die in a futile attempt to force the middle east to be what he thought it should be. How many Americans died in terror atacks by muslim crazies on Reagan's watch? 225 Marines. Under Bush 3,000 innocents. Under Obama? 4. There were 178 on Clinton's watch, but those crazies were home grown Americans.

        • 3 votes
        #2.20 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:29 AM EDT

        ceo, I'll wait for the facts to come out on this bogus report instead of jumping to politically convenient conclusions. glad you like my Church Lady piece.

        • 2 votes
        #2.21 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:34 AM EDT

        That Ambassador begged for more security and never got it, That was a Obama fail, but thats OK because Obama can blame it on Hillery, Obama is good at designating the blame.

        • 6 votes
        #2.22 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:50 AM EDT

        Then again in time Obama will blame the embassy attack on Bush so he can pull Hillery out from under the buss. because he needs the Clintons to complete his agenda. strange how those Communist stick together.

        • 3 votes
        #2.23 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:59 AM EDT

        US technology can be highly advanced in all areas except using substitutes for oil!

        Here oil companies, auto giants and their lobbyists control the show!

        After making oil a critical issue, wars in ME and other places are becoming another bunch of jokes.

        Sunni Saudis, oil companies, extremist Jews and their lobbyists invented Iraqi wars and manipulated Iraqi wars and price manipulations of oil. Many oil importing nations went bankrupt in the process. PIIGS is one example.

        What were economic conditions before Iraqi wars and where are we now?

        Again, by new inventions like WMDs in Iran, we have sanctions on Iranian oil adding more nations to PIIGS.

        Oil, which was around $40 in 2009 is going above $110? Can there be limits to the madness and manipulations by lobbyists of the US politics, foreign policies and actions?

        Even in our case, there will be more debts, unemployment, austerity measures to the needy and more inventions for helping war machines, oil companies, Wall Street manipulators and bankers.

        This partisan report mentions about conditions in Iran. What about our, British and European nations conditions?

        • 4 votes
        #2.24 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:29 AM EDT

        I smell a paid commenter here!

        • 1 vote
        #2.25 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:37 AM EDT

        Bucket, get your nose out of bill O'really's behind. lol lets see. he ended one war, is ending a second war and averting another war. I love god i love my kids i will vote for obama.

          #2.26 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:38 AM EDT

          Joe:

          Believe, how about the 9 months Bush slept through his presidency, dropping the ball and allowing 3000 Americans to die in a terrorist attack.......

          You ignorant fool......If blame is to be placed anywhere, it should be squarely on the shoulders of Bill Clinton. There were numerous opportunities throughout the late 90's for him to take out bin Laden, yet he failed to make the call. In 1996 the Sudan offered to arrest bin Laden and hand him over to U.S. custody....but slick Willy said no because he felt the legal justification was weak. Not to mention that it was the Clinton administration's Jamie Gorelick that penned the now famous "wall of separation", preventing the sharing of information between foreign (CIA) intelligence sources and domestic (FBI) law enforcement. Had that barrier not been there, maybe the 9/11 hijackers training to fly planes, who had been in and out of this country for a number of years, could have been outed. Talk about dropping the ball...?

          • 5 votes
          #2.27 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:44 AM EDT

          Hey George....here's some news, Obama ended nothing. What ended the Iraq war was the Status of Forces agreement, negotiated by the Bush administration back in 2008. This agreement set the course for U.S. withdrawal from Iraq...and guess what, Obama followed the timeline to a tee....and he now takes credit for ending the war. I'm guessing you doubt by statements....so check out the link below, from the NY Times none the less.

          http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/iraq/status-of-forces-agreement/index.html

          • 3 votes
          #2.28 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:06 AM EDT

          The Iranian regime will never give up their nuclear weapons program until they are forced to do so. If the sanctions work, then the ordinary Iranian citizens will force their government to surrender the stuff to the Russians. If the sanctions do not work, then the nuclear facilities will have to be bombed and I do not know how many or what type of 'bunker buster' is needed to destroy underground facilities that are protected by thousands of feet of solid rock. Perhaps only a small clean nuke will do the job.? Other nuclear facilities have been constructed underneath civilian hospitals just to make any targeting a propaganda bonanza.

          • 2 votes
          #2.29 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:56 PM EDT
          Reply

          ...a minute ago the report said "white house and iran to have one-on-one nuclear talks after election"

          ...now the white house is denying it ?

          .

          .mr obama....who is in charge of our nation ?

          • 21 votes
          #3 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:32 PM EDT

          more likely a case of mis-reporting

          • 16 votes
          #3.1 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:33 PM EDT

          Key word...who in the hell would ever trust Obama and Clinton to tell the truth? Another falsehood, no different than the recent numerous changed stories about the episodes in Benghazi and our loss of life there.

          • 16 votes
          #3.2 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:01 PM EDT

          Ummmmmmmm..........

          Not that I like EITHER all that much, but I think I trust OBAMA with our troops' lives a weeeeeeeeeeeeee bit more than Romney, who wouldn't think twice about sending YOUR kids into useless, pointless Middle Eastern cat box quagmires. What about HIS, you ask???? Well, if you had to ask that............you know the answer. And I think you guys know where our NEXT "heroic" and "liberating" imperialist jaunt will go from here. Hate to break it to you chumps.

          • 12 votes
          #3.3 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:22 PM EDT

          HotTicket, I know of one presidential candidate with 5 sons, whom he will protect from having to fight for this country, but who would be more than willing to send other peoples' sons into war.

          • 13 votes
          #3.4 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:53 PM EDT

          Exactly right, joe. Isn't that how chickenhawks roll?

          • 8 votes
          #3.5 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:58 PM EDT

          I thought we had an all volunteer military.

          • 8 votes
          #3.6 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:48 PM EDT

          Bo Biden volunteered. How about Mitt & Co.?

          • 8 votes
          #3.7 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:10 PM EDT

          Joseph Biden received five student draft deferments during the Vietnam War.

          • 13 votes
          #3.8 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:22 PM EDT

          Bo Biden volunteered. What about Mitt's sons?

          • 6 votes
          #3.9 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:45 PM EDT

          Mitt's sons are rich kid, chicken hawk cowards just like Dad was with the Mormon mission to the French Rivera to keep him out of Vietnam...just like chicken hawk GW with his national guard deferment and cheney's

          see the pattern?

          • 10 votes
          #3.10 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:00 AM EDT

          Sunni Saudis, oil companies, Jewish lobbyists, Christian right and their paid lobbyists are in charge of the nation!

          Here both Republicans (Sunni Saudis, oil companies, Christian right and so on) and Democrats (Jewish lobbyists) are the same and two sides of the same coin!

          Who with little sense and knowledge of places will go to wars at the same time in Afghanistan and Iraq? Only Bushes and Republicans can do them.

          Who will invent Bosnia in Europe and help Sunni extremists like Salaffi, Wahhabi, al-Qaida in Libya? Democrats can do well giving big lectures and doing equally well dances like Republicans.

          • 1 vote
          #3.11 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:36 AM EDT

          Every Republican President in my lifetime has gotten a war started right after being elected. FACT.

          • 6 votes
          #3.12 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:39 AM EDT

          Bucket Thanks for saying that. Republicans love wars, no questions about it. When they create wars. No spending problems anymore, government is a wonderful thing. Who cares about national deficit. We are at war, don't say anything because you are antiamerican, you are against the troops. It's ok if the deficit goes to 25 trillions when we are at war. By the way threatening Iran will never solve the problem. We should not be afraid to be against any wars or attacking and invading other countries. We don't owe Israel any explanation whatsoever. Is Israel an independent sovereign nation or what? Can we just say we don't about Israel or not. We are still free I assume.

          • 3 votes
          #3.13 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:37 AM EDT

          The Republicans love to start wars with countries which are unable to defend themselves, such as Granada, Afghanistan and Iraq. The wars they have stated, they have been unable to finish.

          The combined price of Afghanistan and Iraq will exceed 6 trillion dollars and the aholes are now eager to attack Iran, over trumped up allegatioons with absolutely no proof Iran has any inclination to develope a nuclear bomb.

          JERUSALEM - Despite saber-rattling from Jerusalem, Israeli officials now
          agree with the U.S. assessment that Tehran has not yet decided on the actual
          construction of a nuclear bomb, according to senior Israeli government and
          defense figures.

          All of our intelligence agencies have concluded they do not not have a nuclear weapons program, yet we have dumbos on these forums predicting they will give nuclear weapons to any terrorist organization that wants one. To these jerks, I would say,. Iran doesn't have a nuclear bomb to give and they don't have a device capable of delivering a bomb to another country. Terrorists do not have ships, planes or missiles to deliver a bomb.

          The only reason 9/11 succeeded, was because the terrorists had inside help, from our government and the Mossad. Cheney was in the attack up to his eyeballs. Romney has many of the same advisors as Bush and Cheney, all eager for an attack on Iran.

          http://www.rense.com/general29/perl.htm

          http://www.serendipity.li/iraqwar/ignoble_liars.htm

          http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/snieg_conc1.htm

          http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/snieg_conc2.htm

            #3.14 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:27 AM EDT

            The only reason 9/11 succeeded, was because the terrorists had inside help, from our government and the Mossad.

            Its way out in Left field folks! its going ... going .... Its left the Ballpark!

              #3.15 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:59 AM EDT
              Reply

              does this mean all the conspiracy theorists will have to retract their theories?

              • 5 votes
              Reply#4 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:32 PM EDT

              No, it means Israel is waiting for after the U.S. election so they know which President who to call before they incinerate Tehran.

              • 12 votes
              #4.1 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:52 PM EDT

              are you drooling all over your keyboard at the thought of mushroom clouds over Tehran? Ain't gonna happen under Obama's watch. He'll get them to back down without killing them.

              • 11 votes
              #4.2 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:23 PM EDT

              Joe, I doubt anyone is excited about a major confilct. It won't matter who is President, it's coming to a head and be ready for $10 gas. The Mayans may also hit the bullseye of December.........

              • 4 votes
              #4.3 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:46 PM EDT

              the Mayans died off because they didn't understand that you can't destroy your soil and survive. I'm not worried about any predictions coming from them. I do agree that gas prices are not something a POTUS can control, contrary to the Robme crowd who seem to believe Mitt has a magic wand that will lower global oil prices.

              • 6 votes
              #4.4 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:20 PM EDT

              Joe Mota: Or because of inaction by Pres. Obama, Iran will REALLY blow Israel off the face of the map. And then WWWII begins.

              • 3 votes
              #4.5 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:50 AM EDT

              WWIII

                #4.6 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:51 AM EDT

                Iran would be immediately attacked if they did anything, and you all know it.

                North Korea, DUH.

                • 2 votes
                #4.7 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:40 AM EDT

                Talk about lobbyists controlling the US, British and European nations foreign policies and actions. Iraqi wars and Iran are glaring examples.

                Just like before each Iraqi wars, autocratic, highly corrupt and despotic bigoted Sunni Sunni Saudi, UAE, Qatar, Kuwaiti and Sunni oil rich nations are stage managing their dances and actions through oil companies, extremist Jewish lobbys and their puppets in the US, Britain, EU and other nations on Syria and Iran.

                In these bombings, Sunni Saudi proxy al-Qaida is involved. In Syria, Syrian rebels are backed by a-Qaida and MB. In

                Egypt, Islamic fundamentalist Morsi is a front cover for the Sunni Islamic extremist Salaffi, MB and others.

                With sanctions on Iranian oil, oil prices which was around $40 in 2009 has crossed $110 now.

                If Iraqi wars gave us PIIGS, there will more nations added to PIIGS.

                ME is not our business. Just keep miles away.

                IRAQ WARS

                Net results of Saudi, Kuwait, UAE, oil companies and their lobbyists directed 1991 and 2003 Iraqi wars are

                WINNERS

                1. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE and other rich ME sharks became richer by manipulating oil prices too high.

                2. Oil companies and their lobbyists also benefitted. Oil prices, which were hardly $30 a barrel before 1991, shot up to $140 a barrel.

                3. Since 2003, future traders, rating agencies, Wall Street and oil companies and their lobbyists transferred five trillion dollars from oil importing countries to oil exporting nations.

                4. Rich Sunni ME sharks (Saudi Arabia in particular) funded Salaffi and Wahhabi mosques and Islamic radicals and terrorists all over the world. These Sunni Islamic radicals and terrorists are rampaging all over the world. World’s 80 percent of problems are due to them.

                LOSERS

                1. General US and European nations’ public. There have been high unemployment, cut in welfare measures, housing market collapse and more miseries. Since 2001, US spent three trillion dollars on Iraq and Afghan wars. Did the Saudis and co foot the bill?

                2. Poor soldiers killed and injured and their families. In Iraq and Afghan wars 6300 soldiers were killed and 40000 injured.

                3. High budget deficits and heavier borrowing. Many nations (PIIGS) and people are on line to bankruptcy!

                4. Iraq will plunge into bloody sectarian civil wars leading to the creation of Shiastan, Sunnistan and Kurdistan. Here the losses are of Iraqis.

                  #4.8 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:46 AM EDT
                  Comment author avatarBrandon Wagnervia Facebook

                  With all due respect, Mr. Joe Weed/Mota (not really on the respect), nothing our feeble president does will have any impact on Iran's acquisition of nuclear weapons. Why are talks necessary if they weren't trying to weaponize plutonium? Sure they need reactors for energy, because they have no petroleum resources of their own, and Iran is really just looking out for the good of humanity, after all. The only source of possible influence in this situation is Mother Russia, and Obama's in bed with Putin anyway, so I wouldn't be surprised if Iran made false concessions before Nov. 6th, then ramp up production the next day, aided by apology money from us in regard to the sanctions. Idiots...

                  • 1 vote
                  #4.9 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:12 AM EDT

                  joe mota

                  are you drooling all over your keyboard at the thought of mushroom clouds over Tehran? Ain't gonna happen under Obama's watch. He'll get them to back down without killing them

                  More likely Obama would phone them and give them a head's up that the Isreali jets are on the way. I do not want to see a war with Iran anymore than I think anyone posting here does, but some people hear better when they see you holding a bigger stick than they have.

                    #4.10 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:38 AM EDT

                    are you drooling all over your keyboard at the thought of mushroom clouds over Tehran? Ain't gonna happen under Obama's watch. He'll get them to back down without killing them.

                    No one would Nuke Tehran.. It would not happen even under Mitt's or the Republicans watch.. The Nuke facilities may end up getting bombed.. im ok with that.

                    • 1 vote
                    #4.11 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:02 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Hmm, either there are talks planned or there aren't, we aren't sure. We are sure of one thing though; whatever the Obama administration is or is not doing with Iran, it will be proof positive that Obama is a communist, muslim terrorist, right righties? Hey Keck, sorry to see that you are a Zimmerclown too, along with your other idiotic positions. I'm still not sure if you actually take the positions you take or just try to annoy any way you can. Probably a little of both...

                    • 11 votes
                    Reply#5 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:40 PM EDT

                    good evening leroy.

                    why you gotta be pinging on me about zim/mar ? i feel sorry for martin...but not that sorry, you know ?\

                    • 4 votes
                    #5.1 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:49 PM EDT

                    Your an idiot. Stop with the Muslim, Terrorist talk. He is the President. You may not respect him for his color, but if you could just admit that then you would probably get more respect from the people who read your comments But hiding behind such comments only makes it all that much clearer to the rest of your intelligence level. But your correct. There is some misinformation going on here and I would like for it to be cleared up by tomorrow's news cycle. And you Repubs/Tea Party/Real Americans are a dying breed. The country will be blue and eventually the Independents will replace your sorry hateful party.

                    • 10 votes
                    #5.2 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:02 PM EDT

                    You had a pretty outrageous comment on a Zim/Mar article recently if I recall correctly. Not sure if you saw my comeback about free lobotomies for anyone who is stupid enough to send money to Zimmerman, covered by Obamacare of course!

                    • 1 vote
                    #5.3 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:27 PM EDT

                    No, we are sure someone started a rumor. Someone with a vested interest in making the U.S. look weak. Someone anti-American. Let's wait and find out who the real traitor is.

                    • 4 votes
                    #5.4 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:29 PM EDT

                    Hmmm, I wonder who would like to make the USA look weak at this time...any ideas Keck??

                    • 4 votes
                    #5.5 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:39 PM EDT

                    hmmmm, now who would benefit from a bogus story designed to make the Obama admin seem confused??? Who could possibly be trying to create a foreign policy issue out of nothing but a lie???? hmmmm, now who could that be???? SATAN????

                    • 7 votes
                    #5.6 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:48 PM EDT

                    Nice Church Lady skit.

                    SNL Politics?

                      #5.7 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:54 PM EDT

                      thanks. Church lady is a classic character. One of my favorites.

                      • 1 vote
                      #5.8 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:04 PM EDT

                      The Iranian regime is made up of 'twelvers'--as in the twelfth imam. The Iranian regime has no intention of giving up its quest for nuclear weapons under any circumstances other than by force from outside nations. If you are not up on 'twelvers', please do a google search. Even Ayatollah Khomeini banned them because they were so dangerous--not to be confused with the current supreme leader Ayatollah Khamenei.

                      • 2 votes
                      #5.9 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:54 PM EDT

                      Leroy: Stop being dumb. If you have something to say about the lack of truthfulness in this administration or his economic and foreign policies that you don't like we get it but personally bashing our Pres. is unAmerican.

                      • 1 vote
                      #5.10 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:55 AM EDT

                      Stoking up FEAR is all Romney and the Republicans are left holding.

                      They can't talk up Mitt or Paul without looking stupid.

                      NOT ONE POST here says they are great people for the job.

                      Not one post.

                      • 1 vote
                      #5.11 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:42 AM EDT
                      Reply

                      What theories Mota, I believe everything the god o bama utters. Or is that milks? I know you believe in the saudi king podex kisser too. Don't you. And that Benghazi thingie, it was really just a bunch of good hearted muslims that love America so much, they wanted a shot at the United Sates Ambassador's podex. But then this was, according to the god o bama, all about a video. I believe him. Sure I do.

                      • 10 votes
                      Reply#6 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:43 PM EDT

                      go back out to the wilderness. I recommend Alaska. go be at one with the grizzly bears. just do it.

                      • 9 votes
                      #6.1 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:46 PM EDT

                      Mota that is slang for marijuana in some parts of Central America, you still using Mota?

                      • 4 votes
                      #6.2 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:49 PM EDT

                      now you're trying to make jokes about someone's name?? you are pathetic. do us a favor, go meet those bears.

                      • 3 votes
                      #6.3 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:20 PM EDT

                      I don't joke, Ooops! smoke mota, Mota joker. Go hug your minuscule asphodelic root, mota toker.

                        #6.4 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:18 AM EDT
                        Reply

                        I will comment on this none story

                        • 7 votes
                        Reply#7 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:45 PM EDT

                        agree

                        • 3 votes
                        #7.1 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:49 PM EDT
                        Reply

                        Wait a minute...! The original report came from the NY Times........could they possibly have gotten the story wrong????

                        • 10 votes
                        Reply#8 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:47 PM EDT

                        Yep.

                        • 4 votes
                        #8.1 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:49 PM EDT

                        Forgive me Ceo, but I gotta ask, is that really you in the picture?

                        • 1 vote
                        #8.2 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:30 PM EDT

                        Just a trial balloon to seat if this floats with the American people.

                        • 4 votes
                        #8.3 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:34 PM EDT

                        Good thinking Dave.

                        • 1 vote
                        #8.4 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:49 PM EDT
                        Reply

                        I'm on the original storyline about there being an agreement. When I posted the links to NBC, CBS & FOX that the story was false, all of the LIBS there, bashing away, up & "POOFED"

                        • 3 votes
                        Reply#9 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:00 PM EDT

                        Where is the transcripts from from those posts to prove your post here Randy-1103430?

                        Or have you simply up and POOFED!

                        • 3 votes
                        #9.1 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:53 PM EDT

                        dwighthuth

                        "BREAKING NEWS"!!

                        White House denies report that US, Iran agreed to hold one-on-one talks about nuclear program

                        http: //www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/20/report-us-iran-to-hold-one-on-one-talks-about-tehran-nuclear-program/

                        http: //www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57536719/white-house-no-agreement-now-to-meet-with-iran/

                        http: //worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/20/14584786-white-house-denies-agreement-with-iran-on-one-to-one-nuclear-talks?lite

                        Here was the link to the original where NYT reported there was a agreement.

                        http: //world-news.newsvine.com/_news/2012/10/20/14583719-nyt-iran-agrees-to-one-on-one-nuclear-talks-us-sources-say?pc=25&sp=125&threadId=3593832#discussion_nav

                        I don't know if they changed the original story now as I'm still in the comments area.

                        • 2 votes
                        #9.2 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:16 PM EDT

                        dwighthuth

                        I went back & brought up the original story. It has also now been updated to include the denial from the White House.

                        • 4 votes
                        #9.3 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:21 PM EDT
                        Reply

                        "Israel, believed to have the Middle East's only atomic arsenal, sees a nuclear-armed Iran as a threat to its existence and has expressed frustration over the failure of diplomacy and sanctions to rein in Tehran's nuclear activity. Western nations fear that a possible strike against Iran's facilities by Israel would lead to wider conflict."

                        Hypocrites.

                        • 3 votes
                        Reply#10 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:07 PM EDT

                        Israel will use them as a last resort, Iran would use them as a first option without provocation, so no, there is no hypocrisy

                        • 8 votes
                        #10.1 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:20 PM EDT

                        How the he!! do you know who would use what when? You have a Magic 8 Ball or something? Or do you think that terrorism is okay as long as christians and jews are doing it? BTW, Israel having a nuclear arsenal while at the same time wanting to stop Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon is the definition of hypocrisy.

                        I'm not saying that Iran having a nuke is a spectacular idea, but the fact of the matter is that Israel has become a terrorist state in and of itself, and this miniscule country arbitrarily inserted into the Middle East in the 1940's shouldn't have the right to destabilize the region and cause countries who have existed in the area for thousands of years to live in fear. There is something wrong with the situation.

                        • 4 votes
                        #10.2 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:39 PM EDT

                        Destabalizing a region in such a manner was meant to break the Nazi / Middle Eastern connection that Hitler had established during World War II.

                        Just think if Hitler had been able to find oil in Iran and other countries in the Middle East the world would be a different place.

                        Besides such destabilization is how the economy works. Destabilize an area causing a fight so that various products labeled X that associated with the fight can be manufactured and sold to both sides for profit.

                        • 1 vote
                        #10.3 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:51 PM EDT

                        Hitler's been dead for a while now and Israel is more trouble than it's worth. The economic factor of regional destabilization is why our world is in the state it's in - there are better ways to build economies than on the bodies of the dead. Of course, Republican elitists don't think so and that is why the world is in the state that it's in.

                        • 5 votes
                        #10.4 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:00 PM EDT

                        elisem1896: Take a look at a map of the region. Little country Israel is surrounded by Muslim countries. Iran has already threatened to blow Israel off the face of the map. Ahmadineajad just stated recently that Israel(or as he says Zionists) don't have roots in the area and should be eliminated. Israel has a right to exist in the same way the USA has a right to exist.

                        • 1 vote
                        #10.5 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:02 AM EDT
                        Reply

                        Just like every other news we read about Iran, it's not true. Even Tehran doesn't know what's true any more, since they lie about everything else and they expect everyone else to believe it.

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#11 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:22 PM EDT

                        What a load of Koch.

                        • 5 votes
                        Reply#12 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:31 PM EDT

                        Wow. You people can't even read an article in the paper without going ballistic.

                        • 4 votes
                        Reply#13 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:35 PM EDT

                        Jump in Carol, the water's fine!

                          #13.1 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:01 PM EDT

                          If you want to read intelligent, educated comments, you'll find them almost exclusively in the New York Times online edition.

                            #13.2 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:21 AM EDT
                            Reply

                            An NBC error did not bother to read the whole NYT article. It clearly says whitehouse denies this. Fools....

                            • 2 votes
                            Reply#14 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:36 PM EDT

                            It would be great if Iran pulled out of the nuclear weapons development business under any presidnets watch. That being said, this election is about jobs here in the USA....Obama is in trouble.

                            • 3 votes
                            #14.1 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:17 AM EDT
                            Reply

                            Talk about grasping for straws! Axelrod & the Chicago Spin Machine is in over-drive. Next think you know they will be drilling for oil in the Rose Garden. This Amateur Administration is like “Lord of the Flies”, children stuck on an uninhabited island who try to govern themselves, with disastrous results. We need an adult in the White House and we need him now. Benghazi Gate makes Watergate look like kindergarden. VOTE ROMNEY/RYAN

                            • 8 votes
                            Reply#15 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:44 PM EDT

                            VOTE ROMNEY/RYAN WRITE IN GARY JOHNSON OR RON PAUL.

                            I FIXED it for you. You're welcome.

                            • 2 votes
                            #15.1 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:49 PM EDT

                            There's always Rosanne Barr.

                              #15.2 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:10 PM EDT
                              Reply

                              Everyone scoffs at Obama and his leadership on Iran.

                              What do you think will happen if Romney is elected?

                              Romney has never talk with a Middle Eastern leader. Not even once.

                              Romney also has a track record of running away from conflict.

                              If Romney is elected Romney will hide behind others decisions on what to do about Iran without having the balls to make a decision himself.

                              Such non-nuttery will allow Iran to build their nuclear weapons programs which will cause more strife and possible nuclear war.

                              Romney will say that he is strong on Middle East politics but has never engaged in a Middle East face to face discussion with any of their leaders but will instead send someone else to the meeting because Romney has absolute fear of the Middle Eastern man....the Middle Eastern man would be the least of Romney's fears.

                              Did you see how Romney acted when in the presence of Ann Romney?

                              How do you think he will be when he is asked questions about Womens Reform in the Middle East?

                              • 6 votes
                              Reply#16 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:47 PM EDT

                              Pres. Obama didn't have any experience in the ME either and look at the ME today. They're in shambles. Not many people do have any experience until you're the President. One thing is for sure, Iran is not so sure about Romney because of the strong statements he's made about their nuclear program. Iran wasn't scared of Carter either because they knew he wouldn't take any action but they certainly changed their tune when Reagan was elected because Reagan also made it very clear he wouldn't hestitate to take action.

                              • 3 votes
                              #16.1 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:09 AM EDT

                              Believe, Reagan took action in the middle east and 225 Marines paid for it with their lives. Bush took action in the middle east and 4,000 American soldiers paid for it with their lives.Taking stupid action in the middle leads to bad results. Most Americans reject the newcon hypothesis that America should subjigate the middle east and if they resist, kill the bastards. Neither Reagan's nor Bushs's actions made the middle east any better.

                              • 3 votes
                              #16.2 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:07 AM EDT

                              joe mota: And I'm sure you've read the news today. More trouble in the ME-Lebanon riots. Since Pres.Obama has been in office the ME has gradually been going up in flames. Just read something other than liberal media news.

                                #16.3 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:39 PM EDT
                                Reply

                                The October Surprise: Congress begins IMPEACHMENT proceedures against Obama.

                                • 8 votes
                                Reply#17 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:49 PM EDT

                                ha, ha, ha

                                • 4 votes
                                #17.1 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:07 PM EDT

                                Toke, toke, toke

                                • 1 vote
                                #17.2 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:22 AM EDT
                                Reply

                                Just by the looks of the photograph it shows where their governments priorities are, and I'll bet it sure isn't geared toward taking care of their people.

                                • 2 votes
                                Reply#18 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:53 PM EDT

                                There is no doubt but that Obama. if given another term, will sell Israel out to Iran. He's already on record selling his own country out to Russia if he gets back in

                                This is the reason this jackass has got to go.

                                • 7 votes
                                Reply#19 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:54 PM EDT

                                All BS aside, OF COURSE we should talk to Iran, every chance we get. "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer." Of course, if Obama does this, the idiotic traitors on the right will be howling about how Obama is "apologizing" and "siding with the terrorists." Too bad we have all these traitors running around hurting America any way they can right when the country is hurting already. It's so sad...the entire republican party should be jailed for signing The Norquist pledge. That is treason right there.

                                • 5 votes
                                Reply#20 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:56 PM EDT

                                So many lies and mistakes....so little time left.

                                • 3 votes
                                Reply#21 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:57 PM EDT

                                Willard Romney ( his real name) is from the party that let national security lapse on 9/11 and 3,000 Americans were killed. They now want to condemn Obama for 4 deaths in Libya. Willard is from the party who let the national economy collapse, now they want to condemn Obama for high unemployment. Willard is from the party that got us into two unnecessary wars in the Middle East and now wants to seem concerned about foreign policy. If records mean anything the Democrats are indeed mediocre, the republicans are indeed dangerous.

                                • 7 votes
                                Reply#22 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:02 PM EDT

                                @ Honest 2 God. Better get your facts strait. Clinton screwed us when he gutted our military and didn't take out Bin Laden in 1999 after the Twin Towers were first bombed in their underground parking area in 1993. If he took out Bin Laden when he had the Golden chance, 9/11/2001 probably would never have happened. So go back and get your history and facts strait. Don't place blame on somebody arbitrarily.

                                • 3 votes
                                #22.1 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:20 PM EDT

                                Dick, If Bush had been focused on Americans' security instead of getting tax breaks for his rich buddies, the attack might not have happened. It's amazing how republicans can twist their mind in knot and blame Clinton for the attack that happened 9 months into Bush's watch. they give Bush a free pass on security for 9 months but blame Obama for the shape the economy was in from day 1. And their totally unaware that their brains are only half functional.

                                • 3 votes
                                #22.2 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:59 AM EDT

                                Joe. You just proved my point. You cant handle fact, and only spout speculations. Read about the history of Clinton's chances to get Bin Laden before Bush was elected. Clinton was the one that degraded our security by cutting our military. So go read about the facts if you can read.

                                  #22.3 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:22 AM EDT
                                  Reply

                                  I do hope that an investigation is underway to establish who this supposed "White House Official " is and quickly. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that it was someone from the Right who informed the NY Times of this untrue development.

                                  The same way I am sure of the fact that it was the Right who claimed that the Anti-Muslim film was responsible for the attack ?

                                  READ THE HEADLINE AGAIN.. WHO DENIED THE REPORT that a deal was reached for talks ...

                                  THE WHITE HOUSE!!!

                                  How much more desperate to the Republicans have to be ? Purging voters, phony voter registrations, throwing registrations of Democrtas in the garbage, etc. Not to mention billions of dollars thrown into their Campaign..

                                  Only people with a GREEDY AGENDA would stoop this low and the GOP have never been lower in anyone's eyes

                                  • 9 votes
                                  Reply#23 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:08 PM EDT

                                  How can anyone in their right mind even THINK about supporting the corporate thug bullies that the republican has become, Diane? Kick every single one of those dirty, filthy traitors to the curb and America will come bounding back with a vengeance, guaranteed. All Obama wants is to help the people of his country, always has. His community service, always sneered at by the right-wing nuts, is something to be proud of in our President as it enhances his already fine character. Obama cares...

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #23.1 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:18 PM EDT

                                  Undermining elections is the most critical step for Fascists to seize control of a nation. It should therefore come as no surprise that the Republican Party is attempting to destroy the very cornerstone of democracy.

                                  • 6 votes
                                  #23.2 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:36 PM EDT

                                  They are even throwing democratic voter registration forms in the garbage now LCG. These filthy thugs will stop at nothing in their lust for power.

                                  • 4 votes
                                  #23.3 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:45 PM EDT

                                  Liberal Girl.........Are you serious.?

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #23.4 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:46 PM EDT

                                  Open your eyes pal, the US really is under attack, but not from where you think. The right are the extremists, Obama is so centrist, he even leans a little RIGHT.

                                  • 6 votes
                                  #23.5 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:54 PM EDT

                                  This is one good chess match the President is playing.

                                    #23.6 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:38 PM EDT

                                    Diane R: The liberal news always states it's a Senior WH offical or a Senior Obama Advisor. I really think it's Axelrod. He has to be the sleaziest person I've ever seen. He'll do anything to win the election for Obama.

                                    The liberal media said the same thing about the Benghazi statement made by Susan Rice, "she had received the information from a Senior Obama Advisor"

                                      #23.7 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:20 AM EDT
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                                      this bilateral negotation news didn't last long,wonder why?does anyone here know how to play this game?

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                                      Reply#24 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:15 PM EDT

                                      So what did we expect? Let Israel have at 'em- problem solved!

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                                      Reply#25 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:22 PM EDT

                                      I agree with Nor-man Gold-man, the GOP are the American Taliban, and their supportors are the loons who will go to every web sight in the world -- even the Food Network -- to cry about that 'n- president' in the whiteman's house, how dare he!

                                        #25.1 - Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:35 PM EDT
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