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Protesters rushed the prime minister's office Sunday in Lebanon, ripping up barbed wire and hurling rocks. The situation, which started as a peaceful protest, has become a standoff between protesters and the military. It has also triggered concern that Syria's civil war is spreading. NBC's Stephanie Gosk reports.
Violence erupted in downtown Beirut on Sunday as protesters tried to storm the offices of Prime Minister Najib Mikati after the funeral of an assassinated intelligence chief whose death they blame on Syria.
Security forces shot into the air and police fired tear gas to repulse the hundreds of protesters who overturned barriers and threw stones and steel rods, witnesses said.
Stephanie Gosk, NBC News correspondent in Beirut, reported that the protest had been peaceful but took a turn towards violence, with tear gas visible near Mikati’s offices.
The clashes fed into a growing political crisis in Lebanon linked to the civil war in neighboring Syria.
An angry crowd had marched on the prime minister's office after politicians at the funeral of Brigadier General Wissam al-Hassan, who was killed by a car bomb on Friday, called on Mikati to resign over the killing.
The opposition and its supporters believe Mikati is too close to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his Lebanese ally Hezbollah, which is part of Mikati's government.
Many of the protesters waved flags from the anti-Syrian opposition Future Movement - a mainly Sunni Muslim party - and Christian Lebanese Forces as well as black Islamist flags.
They scattered after the security forces' action and there were no immediate reports of any casualties other than two people fainting.
PhotoBlog: Violence erupts in Beirut after slain official's funeral
Opposition leader Saad al-Hariri urged supporters to refrain from any more violence.
"We want peace, the government should fall but we want that in a peaceful way. I call on all those who are in the streets to pull back," Hariri told supporters after the attack, speaking on Future Television channel.
Hassan, 47, was a Sunni Muslim and senior intelligence official who had helped uncover a bomb plot that led to the arrest and indictment in August of a pro-Damascus former Lebanese minister.
He also led an investigation that implicated Syria and the Shi'ite Hezbollah in the assassination of Lebanon's former prime minister Rafik al-Hariri in 2005.
Thousands of people had filled central Martyrs' Square for his funeral ceremony, accusing Syria of involvement in the killing and calling for Mikati to quit.
One banner read "Go, go Najib" echoing the slogans of the Arab Spring.
The violence broke out after Fouad al-Siniora, a former prime minister, said in a speech that the opposition rejected any dialogue to overcome the political crisis caused by the assassination unless the government first resigned.
"No talks before the government leaves, no dialogue over the blood of our martyrs," Siniora said to roars of approval from the crowd.
Journalist Antoun Issa, posting on Twitter, said army members were also caught by the tear gas.
At the start of the funeral, senior politicians and the military and security top brass turned out at the Internal Security Force headquarters for a ceremony held with full military honors and broadcast live on national television.
Hassan's wife and two sons, the youngest weeping, listened as he was eulogized by the head of police, Ashraf Rifi, and President Michel Suleiman.
Suleiman said the government and people must work "shoulder to shoulder" to overcome the challenges posed by the killing.
"I tell the judiciary do not hesitate, the people are with you, and I tell the security be firm, the people are with you, with you. And I tell the politicians and the government do not provide cover to the perpetrator."
In keeping with custom for state funerals, church bells pealed as police officers carried the flag-draped coffins of Hassan and his bodyguard to the mosque on Martyr's Square through chanting crowds. Moslem prayers were broadcast by loudspeaker from the mosque.
In the build-up the funeral, people at the square had said they saw Syria's hand in the bombing.
“We blame Bashar al-Assad, the president of Syria," said Assmaa Diab, 14, from the northern Lebanese city of Tripoli, Hassan's home town. She was in the square with her sister and father.
"He is responsible for everything - in the past, now, and if we don't stand up to him, the future," she said.
The prime minister was also a focus of their anger.
"We are here to tell Mikati we don't need him anymore and to tell Hezbollah we don't want any more of their games," said Hamza Akhrass, a 22-year-old student who from south Lebanon.
"Mikati takes too much pressure for Syria."
One banner read: "People want the overthrow of Najib".
Mikati said on Saturday he had offered to resign to make way for a government of national unity but he had accepted a request by President Michel Suleiman to stay in office to allow time for talks on a way out of the political crisis.
Sunday's events highlighted how the 19-month-old uprising against Assad in Syria has exacerbated deep-seated sectarian tensions in Lebanon, which is still scarred from its 1975-90 civil war.
Sunni-led rebels are fighting to overthrow Assad, who is from the Alawite minority, which has its roots in Shi'ite Islam. Lebanon's religious communities are divided between those that support Assad and those that back the rebels.
Mikati sought in vain to insulate the country from turmoil in its larger neighbor, which has long played a role in Lebanese politics. He himself said he suspected Hassan's assassination was linked to his role in uncovering Syrian involvement in the August bomb plot.
Reuters contributed to this report.
NBC's Paul Nassar describes the scene after a bomb killed 8 people in Lebanon Friday.
There was army stationed near to where the tear gas was falling. They were suffering, red eyes, coughing too, but standing still. #Beirut
— Antoun Issa (@antissa) October 21, 2012
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I think most of us who have been following the Syrian Civial War over the past year and a half expect that this conflagration will one day spread to Lebanon. It seems the day is approaching more rapidly than ever.
Let me be pre-emptive here; should this erupt into war in Lebanon, it will not be President Obama's fault. Wow, I'm sure that statement will get things going. Why do I say that? Simple, look into Lebanese history and Syria's involvement in that country and one can see it all began while President Obama was far too young to even run for the office. No, if it spreads, then the onus will belong to Syria, Assad and his late father.
Lebanon burned in the 60s, was rebuilt. It burned in the 80s, built again. Guess they are overdue. I've known a number of (non-muslim) Lebanese, who emigrated the US, nice people.
I do feel for Turkey, if they get drawn into this mess and lose their non-sectarian government, it will be a sad day.
I love it when a plan comes together; but not this one.
http://www.docudharma.com/diary/28484/general-wesley-clark-7-countries-in-5-years
Just keep up your apologies Mr. President, as we can all see they made this world such a better place.
Maybe you should try "America's apology tour II". That should make it all better
My word am I tired of hearing the latte-drinkers informing us about how they've X amount of people from country so-and-so and that they were all "very nice people"...
...as if the open combat being waged in the Middle East for the least 30 years is just some stereotype that Westerners need to unlearn. Especially in Lebanon which makes even Iraq look like it has a fighting chance.
Look, all these places - Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Egypt...these societies have very serious problems. I don't care who you met in the hotel lobby, coffee shop, or gift shop in whatever country you were in - I don't care what the tour guide told you - these are counties where people are routinely pulled out of their vehicles and executed ON THE SPOT based on what their ID Card says.
Grow up already. Every adult knows that perfectly nice people are capable of savagery.
John Doe, you are an ignorant dirtbag, but I'm sure you've been told that many times before. Start showing some respect for your President, he will surely be around for the next four years, you crumb, and yes, he will make this a better world.
Yes...a better world as the Koran envisions it.
What, no condemnation from Barry?
Can we just skip the debate on foreign affairs and have Barry read his concession speech from the teleprompter?
And, yes - the world would be a better place if they ALL blew themselves already and let us who DO want to live in the twenty first century go about our business in peace.
They're NOT our f*cking problem.
Thats same thing people said about Hitler....
You do know that Danny Thomas was a Lebinese intertainer and immigrant and started St Judes Hospital for Children here in the US.
@Travis "these are counties where people are routinely pulled out of their vehicles and executed ON THE SPOT based on what their ID Card says."
Really now, pretty sure this still happens IN THIS COUNTRY you f***ing moron. You just never go into those areas because you know better. What tourist knows to stay out of the hoods? Does not have to be a black hood either. There are people of all colors that will do it, forget religion or nationality. It is a human thing. they see an opportunity and they take. I thought that you wanted people to take advantage of any opportunities that come their way. Who cares if they bend some rules to do it since I thought it "took intelligence" to get away without being caught right?
30 years is all it takes for you huh? I guess you believe the stereotype that this country is "socialist" now when people only pay a 14% effective tax rate compared to this country's golden years which were all during a time when the top tax rates were between 70%-90%. That was only in 1982, yet how many people cry about this country being "socialist" now? How many wars and how many years has this country been at war since WW2? You want to talk about savagery? What did we do to American Indians you know those stereotypical savages?
I guess you forget WHY we went to those countries in the first place. Why did we even get involved over 30 years ago? There is this thing called cheap oil and WE DID ANYTHING, AND SUPPORTED ANYONE TO GET. All so we could beat those commies from Russia. Some of the things we did all in the name of cheap oil went against the values we openly preach about like democracy. Throw in Israel too and maybe that has something to do with it. They also have problems just like any other nation. How is this nation doing atm btw? You might want to be careful about tossing stones.
I went to high school grew up with a Muslim from Jordan. His father was from Greece and his mother was from Palestinian. I slept over at his house, ate, worked at his father's stores, even tried to f*** his sister like some of my other friends. He was protective of his sister, but did not flip out, go nuts over, freak out etc. I never did get to do anything with his sister, but she did marry a white dude from Texas. the family was not happy at first, but they were alright with it after the shock went away. Over the many years that I knew him and his family I meet other Muslims. Most were nice just like most people are, but there were a couple crazy ones just like there are with any race. People are people. My mother remarried an Arabic man from a Christian/Orthodox family, I know that whole family too, and most are good humans. NEWSFLASH over 90% of humans WANT THE SAME EXACT THINGS IN LIFE they just go about them in different ways sometimes.
Grow up already and understand that humans are humans no matter the color, race, sex, religion, nationality, etc. You will find good and bad examples of each. It is called probability something you obviously have no clue about. If it is possible to have a "good" person then it HAS to be possible to have a "bad" person. Good and bad are all in the eye of the beholder too.
Simple people need things in black and white or it confuses them. Since their simple brains cannot see shades of gray. Enemy bad, friend good, kill enemy... Ever stop to think that all this hate, racism, people fighting over religion, etc. IS DUE TO UNREGULATED COMPETITION. Take away the life and death competition and people would not be at each others' throats. Capitalism breeds it, but people are to stupid to think for themselves. Capitalism good, Socialism bad... If capitalism only allows 0.1% of the population to win or make 1000 times more then others how does it provide better opportunities then socialism? IT DOES NOT. Christian good, Muslim bad...
Bandit, I apologize for speaking out against the all mighty Obama. I'll be sure to turn myself into the Gestapo immediately for defying mine furher.
bandit, respect is given where it is due.
Not everything in this world, not every conflict has to do with America's elections, or the partisan vitrol which has hit a fevered pitch here in the US. The world was turning a long, long time before the colonists even came to the North American continent. And peoples do have their own histories that have gone a long time back; not that lands ruled by utter dictators who run the equivallent of a prison colony in their countries helps much. That's also right up there with many who think all the ills of the world are a product of "the younger generation" and how they're all sending the world to hell in a hand basket, while quickly forgetting much of the less then good things they seem to selectively remember in a sense of nostalgia, which had transpired even in their own recent past, let along the distant past. Sometimes, just sometimes it amounts to seeing things through rose colored glasses, that can distort the view one might hold...
Truth be told, no one country, no one continent, no one group of people has a monopoly on dispicable animals who do terrible things either. We've had our share of Jeffery Dahmers, "the son of Sam", and other such killers who really are no better then many we could point fingers at "over there". Human evil if you will, is not soley present in "one people" and absent from all others. And whereas many could, and rightly should, have had something to say about the concentration camps in Germany around the time of Hitler, the sad truth is that we had our Eugenics programs going on around the same time. For those who weren't aware of what that is, you might be shocked... As I said, human evil if you will, knows no borders, and isn't something that exclusively exists in 1 part of the globe only...
hey, johndoe; that's "mien fuhrer" putz. You should start your own apology tour, for being a moron.
I apologize to all Nazi's for misusing their lingo. Are you one them Kushner?
Relax people. This isn't a civil war, These are just spontaneous protests due to the anti-Mohammed movie. Really....Just ask Obama. ROTFLMAO!!!!!
"Their lingo" -- John Doe
It called German. It's a language stupid! Not lingo.
I have my doubts that Syria ordered this bombing directly. It would be my guess that Hezbollah was acting on their own. What a disgusting act of violence. They didn't even care that there were civilians who were just walking the sidewalks.
Islam keeps manufacturing the ink for the pens of its critics.
OK, John. I guess all Germans run around saying mien fuhrer all the time, did I spell that right Jim?
Say what you will, Obama WILL be around another 4 years because the MAJORITY of the American voters will keep him here, so whatever you un-American bigmouths say, you ARE the minority.
ummmm, bandit, you know Romney is leading in the polls right?
bandit3097615, you are suspended for a day for violating rule # 1 of the Code of Honor.
Bite me Sally.... respect is earned, stay in the kitchen where you belong. And for John Doe... only on Fox my friend.
Assad is one of the best ME leaders. Hezbollah should take Labanese Christians on their side and battle seventh century barbaric and beastly one-way traffic Sunnis.
If atrocities and barbarism on girls, children and women are the criteria, then the most despotic, autocratic and bigoted Sunni Saudi ruler with his 5000 princes and princesses, Kuwaiti, UAE and other Arab League Sunni rulers and their rich sheiks are the biggest culprits in the history.
In Bahrain, Sunni Saudis and their seventh century Sunni Arab League Sunni killer rulers sent their forces and killed peaceful Shiites protestors.
In Bahrain, Shiites majority are supposed to tolerate a corrupt and despotic Sunni ruler. For these one-way traffic Sunni religious Nazis, a better Shiites ruler like Assad is not acceptable.
So this means Shiites should ask for their Shiastans wherever they form more than 10 percent.
Shiites of Bahrain should overthrow their autocratic, corrupt and despotic Sunni ruler. Let the liberation struggle start from Bahrain.
They should expand their liberation struggles from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan (18 percent), Qatar, Oman, Kuwait, UAE and other places which have Sunni rulers.
What a bunch of cowards Shiites are? They talk big, act big and show their bravery before unarmed minorities like Jews, women and others. Then they add their dances when they stone them.
Shiites of Iraq should side with Kurds and should stop oil supplies to Turkey for supporting the Sunni Islamic extremists like al-Qaida, MB in Syria.
As they have been taking blows and killings by Sunnis, these Sunnis are able to act as they like to Shiites.
Shiites of Iran should side with Assad and see that all the Sunni rebels are eliminated.
What are the brave Hezbollah doing?
They should do suicide bombings in Mecca and Medina. Or else Shiites genocides just like the genocides of non-Muslims by the Sunni Islamic religious Nazis will continue.
I, another infidel like Shiites, support the Shiites under dogs.
Yeah, I am sure that will fix everything.
You SAID IT ALL, my friend.
And let me add to that - NOW the US media wants the Americans to back the Sunni AL Qaeda terrorists thugs in this Syrian civil war. You know - so that they can complete their intended extermination of the local Alawites, Christians, non believers and Shiites. The Zionist media must think Americans are pretty stupid. But then again, maybe they're correct........
Don't worry, Zionists of the world will be perfectly fine if it's just Sunnis vs. Shea, and everyone else (especially Israel) can sit it out.
By all means, go on and fight a good fight.
You lost me at Assad as being one of the best Middle East dictators, erm I mean leaders is the word that was used. If this wasn't all tongue in cheek, I mean really I'd rather throw the distinction for better leadership in the direction of Turkey tbh.
Sometimes, just sometimes, we as a species seems very young, with much to learn... We live in a universe of possibilities, and much opportunity, and instead sit around like this, and then get the cheer leading of 'good little dictator, but he's our dictator" and whatever else. I really wish I could live to see the day we'd grow out of some of this, and actually live to see us create something better for ourselves and our posterity... Instead it more of the tired old same... /sigh
It was a mater of time be for the Syrian Civial War spilled into other countries. Turky is doing its best to stay out of it but may not be abule to.
99% the criminal zionists are behind the assasinatins in Lebanon and other parts of the Arab and Moslim world ,,,, johnathan those rollers U mensioned doesnt represnt Sunnis at all ,,, they represnt their intrests only and the intrests of their allies from westren countries and regional countries
You knew it was a matter of minutes before some genuis blamed the jews for the idiocy of islam.
Dan is a finalist in today's Newsvine dumb@!$%# comment of the day.
Congratulations Dan. You must be proud.
Beth.
Agree.
I went through posts 1-3, amazed that no one brought Israel into it. Guess #4 was the charm here.
I second the motion for Dan as #1 Newsvinefool of the day.
Yessssss, no matter how corrupt, dysfunctional, hysterical, debased, illiterate, and irrational Muslim societies may be, they always blame their troubles on outsiders, especially on the Jews and "The West". They never seem to examine their own faults. Sick societies.
The desire of the Muslims to commit Jewish genocide has existed since the days of Allah and did not start with the onset of the Arab-Israeli conflict. With regards to imposing Sharia law, they make no distinction between lands originally Muslim and lands that they conquered by force. They are also not in favor of “peaceful solutions,” and prefer to kill or be killed. They believe that the Jews started the French Revolution and the first and second world wars and their views on Jews and financial institutions are comparable to the Nazis. They claim freedom of all religions under Islam though go on to say that “Israel, Judaism and Jews challenge Islam and the Moslem people” and that “Peace and quiet would not be possible except under the wing of Islam.”
The Covenant
of the
Islamic Resistance Movement
18 August 1988
Article Six:
The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine, for under the wing of Islam followers of all religions can coexist in security and safety where their lives, possessions and rights are concerned. In the absence of Islam, strife will be rife, oppression spreads, evil prevails and schisms and wars will break out.
The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:
"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).
Article Eleven:
The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab, possess the right to do that. Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated for Moslem generations until Judgement Day. This being so, who could claim to have the right to represent Moslem generations till Judgement Day?
This is the law governing the land of Palestine in the Islamic Sharia (law) and the same goes for any land the Moslems have conquered by force, because during the times of (Islamic) conquests, the Moslems consecrated these lands to Moslem generations till the Day of Judgement.
Article Thirteen:
Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of Palestine is abuse directed against part of religion. Nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its religion. Its members have been fed on that. For the sake of hoisting the banner of Allah over their homeland they fight. "Allah will be prominent, but most people do not know."
Article Fifteen:
"I swear by the holder of Mohammed's soul that I would like to invade and be killed for the sake of Allah, then invade and be killed, and then invade again and be killed." (As related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).
Article Twenty-Two:
For a long time, the enemies have been planning, skillfully and with precision, for the achievement of what they have attained. They took into consideration the causes affecting the current of events. They strived to amass great and substantive material wealth which they devoted to the realisation of their dream. With their money, they took control of the world media, news agencies, the press, publishing houses, broadcasting stations, and others. With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the world with the purpose of achieving their interests and reaping the fruit therein. They were behind the French Revolution, the Communist revolution and most of the revolutions we heard and hear about, here and there. With their money they formed secret societies, such as Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, the Lions and others in different parts of the world for the purpose of sabotaging societies and achieving Zionist interests. With their money they were able to control imperialistic countries and instigate them to colonize many countries in order to enable them to exploit their resources and spread corruption there.
You may speak as much as you want about regional and world wars. They were behind World War I, when they were able to destroy the Islamic Caliphate, making financial gains and controlling resources. They obtained the Balfour Declaration, formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains by trading in armaments, and paved the way for the establishment of their state. It was they who instigated the replacement of the League of Nations with the United Nations and the Security Council to enable them to rule the world through them. There is no war going on anywhere, without having their finger in it.
Article Twenty-Eight:
Israel, Judaism and Jews challenge Islam and the Moslem people. "May the cowards never sleep."
Article Thirty-One:
The Islamic Resistance Movement is a humanistic movement. It takes care of human rights and is guided by Islamic tolerance when dealing with the followers of other religions. It does not antagonize anyone of them except if it is antagonized by it or stands in its way to hamper its moves and waste its efforts.
Under the wing of Islam, it is possible for the followers of the three religions - Islam, Christianity and Judaism - to coexist in peace and quiet with each other. Peace and quiet would not be possible except under the wing of Islam. Past and present history are the best witness to that."
Look up Avalon Project: Hamas Covenant 1988. Yale University school of law for more information.
Sounds to me like Allah and Jesus should have had a winner take match years ago.
Back in the days of Constantanople the Christians said they would the Muslims off the face of the Earth also. Looks like they failed.
The componants from the bomb were identified from a local military complex in beirut.
The bomb was not of Syrian origin, but Lebonese origin. And it looks like a member of their own military did it.
That is not really a resounding body of proof. If the bombing plot really was of Syrian origin, I think they would be smart enough not to use materials labeled "made in Syria" - just sayin.
Middle East exploding? Iran, Hezbollah, and Assad attempting to deflect attention from Revolution in Syria? Bad situation, entire region could be drawn into the conflict and then we get suckered in. Very bad vibes, know many Lebanese Christians, really hard working and nice people, well maybe exempting Sunuunu (sp.?) he reminds me of an old angry olive. No this is not the Presidents fault.
Right...all of O's vast foreign policy experience should secure his reelection.
Hey Rex - dont be so hard on the guy; after all, he DID win a Nobel peace prize.
(oh..wait..so did Arafat; and let's not forget that, in '31, Good Ol' Adolph was nominated as well).
Why are people trying to look at it as we did it? My Goodness, let's find a president to blame it on. How about James Polk? we haven't blamed him for anything yet.
Just answer one question: What do both sides want other than power and what is to say, one side is better than the other? I guess we could just flip a coin. It really makes no difference who wins over there, the killing will keep going on till they realize their prophet was just a prophet and nothing more. We have had many prophets. STOP IT you fools.
Could it be that pesky video again?
Thank the Palestinians for helping destroying Lebanon after Jordan got sick of their BS and kicked them out in 1971. Everyplace these scumbags have gone they have brought nothing but grief and murder.
Syrian issues will not spill out into other nations! At least that is what POTUS has everyone believing! It never happened here, nor in Turkey, nor in ..........! [:-(]
Just like ignorant people all over the world. Don't wait for evidence before blaming someone for the crime. And in the case of Lebanon, they will create the evidence to make whoever they want to take the blame for this tragedy.
Religious killings and wars ... nice. I think religion is responsible for more violent deaths in the world than anything else. God must be so proud...or Allah.... or whomever.
Lebanon, another country chained by Iran to its terrorist strategy, has been moving towards this point since the revolution in Syria began. Iran's 'volunteers' throughout the middle east need to go. Turkey, Jordan and Saudi Arabia need to clean up this Iranian mess before Iran has nuclear weapons ... their red line is closer than Israel's.
Cant the US step in and apologize for something?
Appeasement is the key, you know.
Hopefully, Nov. 6th will not be the start of the BowDown encore tour.
Step in and do what dumb fracking moron! The US isn't even able to take care of IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN and you want them to step into an absolute quagmire!!!. The only thing that would sort of make sense is bombings like in Lybia with no involvement on the ground, but the outcome of that would be totally impossible to determine. You Neo Cons don't have a fracking clue about anything. The US is in a debt hole because of your two fracking wars so shut up!
There was a reason why pre Arab spring rulers ruled with a heavy hand, there were reasons why US foreign policy stayed out of their affairs, there were reasons why some of these groups were kept in check, can anyone guess why, Obama and his foreign policy is to blame for letting the cat out of the bag, Arab spring was good intentions but bad policy and Obama had to know that, I knew it so if I could figure it out then Obama and his team of genius's knew it, that or we inherited the stupidest team in history to run the country either way the ME and North Africa is in worse shape today then it was a couple of years ago and I don't think anyone can save it now, Americas foreign policy backfired and put our enemies in a position to do some real damage to the region and the rest of the world. instead of having dictators for rulers they have extremist, what a nice change.
Where there is ISLAM as a dominant religion there is More Violence.
52.6% of the Continent of Africa is populated by ISLAM - Muslim
There is more violence in Africa than anywhere else in the world.
Around the world where there are higher populations of Muslim people, you will find that these locations have more violence - hatred than other places in the world.
ISLAM - and The Muslim World have JIHAD against the entire world.
FOLKS WE ARE AT WAR WITH ISLAM - It's Either Them Or Us.
If They win - YOU WILL LOSE YOUR LIFE !
It is as simple as that !
Please refer to my post above Re: The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement for more information.
ALLAH IS SATAN
JESUS (YHWY) SAVES - ALLAH KILLS
LOL!
Yea, lets bring in the 2nd worst sky fairy piece of @!$%# in the history of humanity.
So much better than the worst sky fairy...
islam = @!$%#
christianity = @!$%#
No real difference
Beth: Refer to my post above Re: The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement and get back to us with your pearls of wisdom. Difference is Islam still follows medieval justice. Christianity and Judaism have long ago relinquished that form of jurisprudence.
Beth you are absolutely RIGHT. They're all BS from magic underwear to angels and virgins in the clouds. They all preach something they can't even apply.
For example Boo Boo here is probably a Christian. Christianity is based on forgiveness, it teaches you tolerance and it tells you not to judge... YET you say ALLAH kills. If you don't see anything contradictory with what you wrote and your believes, that only affirm what I already know, religious freaks are ignorant.
BTW Allah means GOD, and for Christians there's only one. So technically you just called your God a Killer. Islam has prophet Mohammed, that's the guy you have to judge.
It's time to wake up and look at the world as is and stop creating alternative realities because you're missing the REAL thing. It's time to STOP jerking around and start using something called common sense.
So now go outside look at the night sky for few hours and then think really hard… And ask yourself again if God exists, if the answer is still yes, slap yourself in the face and go to sleep.
has Obama blamed it on a video yet?
Our Media must love showing us daily protesters in the Middle East.( Dear, which protest do you want to go today. I don't care honey, just pick one. Just bring your camera, we can sell the pictures to the American Media.)
I don;t understand why the rebels didn't find some town to live in and do their sunni thing. why did they have to mess with the government and cause all these problems?
they do not seem diplomats because they are always demanding things.
who want to deal with that?
why don;t they stop?
Susan,
ISLAM is out to either convert You into ISLAM or Behead you- GET IT !
And if they do convert you, they might just behead you anyway!
It's Quite Simple
Im sorry to say I think theonly safe way to look at it is Boo Boo's view point. At least for now, until Islam gets a hold on itself. I know...I chuckled too. Have to hang onto a little hope. A whole lot of people in this world want to kill me and you. We're gonna have to kill them first.
I so enjoy reading everyone's comments--guess that's the beauty of hiding behind the web. For the most part there seem to be some interesting if not delusional points of view; I hardly believe that any of these people are going to change their minds, beliefs, etc. Too bad we don't hear from the folks on the front-lines in this fiasco. Of course Syria has its dirty Lucifer hand in all the terror that happens in Lebanon. I lived it and know it from personal experience. Too many lives have been lost and nothing has changed in centuries! Fighting out of fear and ignorance.
Now tiny little Lebanon gets to take on a completely unnecessary social and economical burden by housing and caring for Syrian refugees that once massacred and did unspeakable acts to their Lebanese neighbors, while the Syrian filthy scum dogs kill anyone that is thought to be against the tyrant Assad dictatorship...ummm regime.
There has never been Peace in that region since Christ walked on its sacred land--such a shame, the land with such rich history, where it all began will forever struggle to survive and flourish.
God help them all--especially my fellow Christians.
*please do not feel the need to reply with toxic propaganda, I neither care nor have any interest in anyone's reply, I simply wanted to voice my thoughts like everyone else.