Wasn't there more than just one involved???

He gets a one year sentence and claims that it is unfair? Wth? Like most over there, he probably assumed that killing Americans was not only legal, but encouraged. So, imagine his shock at the sentencing.

Coral - The Imams did not motivate the attack in Libya, it was a planned terroist attack. This administration has and is lying to the American people. Check out MSNBC, yesterdays story on Libya was buried in the business section instead of being a front page story. Has anyone considered that our embassys were attacted in other countries because of the lie that the white house told about some stupid video?

@chef;

Yes there was. What most need to realize is that this is just the beginning of prosecution, and be happy there was a prosecution at all. This is a step in the right direction for the ME. Holding the agitators just as responsible as the actual players,when death is a result of their words. The sentence was surley too light. We will push for harsher consequences in the future. Not too long ago the government would have turned a blind eye and let these guys out of town, this time the people found them and extracated them from their head quarters, very good sign,but hey use this as your opportunuty to try to advance your political position as Romney did very shameful using others tragedy in this vane.

@ doris;

The Imams did not motivate the attack in Libya

Ummm they are the ones that tell the public what is going on and how to react. They play on the ignorance of the public, they motivate people to riot, which created an atmosphere for the Islaimist to attack.

This administration has and is lying to the American people. Check out MSNBC, yesterdays story on Libya was buried in the business section instead of being a front page story. Has anyone considered that our embassys were attacted in other countries because of the lie that the white house told about some stupid video?

Show me with source and words these lies. You have no clue waht you are talking about it was the consulate that attacked, the embassy is in Tripoli.

Coral - Are you posting from the white house? You have the same spin that they have been giving the American people since the terrorist attack. Here is a news flash for you. The emails have been made public, everyone knows it was not the video.

Coral, sorry for any misunderstanding but my sarcasm key is not working.

I saw the photos of the Ambassador's dead body as he was being dragged through the streets. Did you??? It will be a long time before those images will be forgotten. The throng of monsters - and yes they are monsters - was so thick, you couldn't see the road. The stomach area of the Ambassador's body was a mass of colors from bruising. The horrible lump on his forehead was huge. Can you imagine the beating that man took??? I can only hope that he died quickly.

Thank you but I'm well aware that there was more than just one monster involved in these murders.

As far as the beginning of a prosecution, I'll have to see a whole lot more than just one little sacrificial lamb so that they can get their borrowed $$$ to pay for their little revolution.

It's true, the Imams and Clerics rant and rave about the "corruption" in the west because they have nothing to contribute to making lives better for their own people. This is not new. The Islamic world has been condemning other cultures for centuries as 'idolatrous", then attacking at the smallest provocation. When they are too weak to attack they turn on themselves attacking sects perceived as "unIslamic", or they attack diplomatic missions of stronger countries. In cultures where Islam has wiped out all other cultures, they outlaw the joys of life as being "unislamic" such as dance, music, real education and the arts. Criticism of their behavior or religion is perceved as an act of war. They follow the example of the "Prophet" whose followers would dispatch his critics, (male and female, young and old) as recorded in the hadith.

The highest form of contempt is to outlaw the religion of others, which is what they do in the heart of heart of Islam.

One only needs to read the diatribes of Sayyid Qutb in his polemic "Milestones" to understand the contempt that the Muslim Brotherhood has for the west. Muhammad Atta was a card carrying member, so was Bin Laden so was Al Zawahiri etc...

Any culture where the base of power is through contempt of others will fall into war. If the war is not external, it becomes internal, as it has in Syria and Pakistan.

Perhaps a little introspection and objective deconstruction might help the Islamic world. But, then again, self criticism or honest examination might be perceived as apostasy.

My appologies if I offend any Muslims for being so critical.

One year sentence?!?!? LMFAO!! Way to go Hilary! Way to go Obama!! LOL!

Arab nations changing to democracy and jailing the bad guys. wow.THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT.

TUNIS, Tunisia - A leader of radical Islamist group Ansar al-Sharia was sentenced to one year in prison on Wednesday for inciting an attack on the U.S. Embassy in Tunis last month in which four people were killed.

The conviction of Abu Ayub was the first in connection with the attack - launched to protest against an anti-Islamic film made in California. The United States has been urging authorities to jail those responsible.

LOL, they are still trying to call this a protest over a film, in which the producer is jailed as well. O'bama, you are a lying sack of @!$%#, sir. What a disgraceful, petty little man!

Coral - The point here is that the white house claimed it was not a terroristic attack until 13 days later....yesterday MSNBC from Reuters had a story that the white house knew it was a terroristic attack two hours after it happened...Reuters has the emails...therefore, obama lied to the American people about the cause of the attack and should be held accountable....also, the embassy had begged for more security and it was denied...hillary is calling for more time for the investigation....probably so they can create evidence that matches their story....

This report is so bias politically correctness that, never mentionthe word TERRORIST attached to the name ISLAMIST. The perpetrators of this MAN MADE DISASTER like Obama and the left define is no less than a terrorist attacks , it is obvious that the media bias pretending avoid the word terrorist as an intention behind, Osama is dead and AlQaeda is too, however this is nothing more far from true. Osama is dead but the terrorist group AlQaedais alive killing Americans. Let free the Christian Coptic , he is right to speak out about Mohammad and his followers , because he is a victim of attacks and Church burning in his country from Muslims intolerant to other religion.

This is the USA , we have freedom of speech , and the Islamic Brotherhood is not ruling the White House.

@doris kjb; You see nothing but crickets,All talk no walk doris, take a gander down on vine 5 so you can get educated on the truth.

therefore, obama lied to the American people about the cause of the attack and should be held accountable....

Show me where he lied. None of you seem to be able to that, now go to vine 5 for the truth sir.

Then get back to me.lol

TUNIS, Tunisia - A leader of radical Islamist group Ansar al-Sharia was sentenced to one year in prison on Wednesday for inciting an attack on the U.S. Embassy in Tunis last month in which four people were killed.

Wait a minute! Now we have 4 people killed in Tunis too? Get your story straight NBC...4 people were killed in Libya!

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57513174/tunisian-protesters-pushed-back-after-u.s-embassy-breach/

Good morning, Fed. Glad to see you're here. Please help to bring some sanity back to these threads.

Show me where he lied. None of you seem to be able to that, now go to vine 5 for the truth sir.

Then get back to me.lol

Where have you been Coral? It is common knowledge that O'bama has lied. Where did he lie? Well, for now, we know he lied about the nature of the attack. This is fact. As the facts unfold, more lies will be unveiled I am sure. There is a reason behind his caricature of this attack other than avoiding the terrorism tag. He would not risk his political future for that. More to come....

Coral, who the hell is Joe???

Did you also enjoy george's "positive" little post at 4.5???

I hope the moderators get here SOON!!!

@chef;

No it was in very poor taste, Joe lol I am on a tangent today getting my names cornfused.

Coral, who the hell is Joe???d.lol

Joe the plumber maybe?lol

Yes that should be deleted.

@kornfded;

Where have you been Coral? It is common knowledge that O'bama has lied. Where did he lie? Well, for now, we know he lied about the nature of the attack. This is fact

How did he do that, why does it have to be a lie,and not a wrong interpratation. Everyone says this is common knowledge,but they have yet to show me source or quote whwre there was a lie told, please show me this common knowledge.

Good Morning Chef!

The liberal media is feeding the trolls again!

They cant defend the undefendable. The polls will show how Americans really feel about this dismal administration. The swing states have swung and it will be all over soon

Coral Taxi

How did he do that, why does it have to be a lie,and not a wrong interpratation

You sound like a battered wife that is too scared to leave her husband. Let me help you put this in perspective. Imagine Bush in place of O'bama in this instance...

Dave Simpson

If your facts are coming from this government and the media bias you are dead wrong. Get your facts straight for factual sources. Check all the facts. Obama waste the lives of thousand of brave soldiers dead in Iraq because he was incompetent to sign an agreement with the Iraqi government to continue helping training their troops, police and forces of order , now AlQaeda is taking over, what a failure. Meddle East is in flames , we are under attack and Obama is doing fundraiser the same moment our Ambassador is killing for AlQaeda affiliates. What is the Obama response, go to Las Vegas for fundraiser and blame a film . USA is not better of in the Meddle East , we hare losing allies and gaining enemies.

Obama is been the president for the las 4 years and his actions in the meddle East have consequences, and we are facing those at this time.

@kornfed;

You sound like a battered wife that is too scared to leave her husband. Let me help you put this in perspective. Imagine Bush in place of O'bama in this instance

You sound like someone who has resorted to insults, because you can not back up what you say with source or quotes of these "lies" all of you are talking about. You also fail to back up your words,you should of just faded away as the others, I give facts on vine 5 you guys still deny,

Coral - The point here is that the white house claimed it was not a terroristic attack until 13 days later....

I have shown unequevically that this is not true, not one of you can show me it is, and yet because it against coral taxi, it will get voted up truth or not, that is all this is.You keep voting this up and it just is not true.

cue the crickets, I think they are all asleep.lol or googling themselves to death trying to prove me wrong.lol

See vine 5 for truth. I am begging for your vote! lMAO

chefaz said;

I saw the photos of the Ambassador's dead body as he was being dragged through the streets.

Ambassador Stevens did not die in the consulate and was 'dragged through the streets'. People found him semiconscious and rushed him through the streets to get him to the hospital--he was still alive when he reached the hospital. He died of smoke inhalation. The majority of the people in Benghazi liked him and wanted the peace he was advocating for, and when he died, about a week later the people rose up and stormed the compound in which the militants were hiding and drove them out of the city.

This sentence is a joke and a typical seventh century Sunni Islamic drama!

Even if he is sent to jail for one year, he will come out and kill more!

You keep voting this up and it just is not true.

Coral Taxi.

It is true that Obama mention the word terrorist, however if you read the transcript of his speech, he mention terrorist in a context of the memorial of 9/11 2001 , he never made an actual statement calling to the incident in Benghazi a terrorist attack, not at that time because it was "under investigation" not after when the White House sent Ambassador Rice to all Sundays Shows to tell to the American Public , that the attack was an spontaneous response to the Mohammad film, Obama continue denying the terrorist word to the attack in Benghazi in his speech at the UN. In order to make your statement true , Obama never should call spontaneous to something in fact was not, and flame tha film the was not also the cause of the attack. Obama intentionally lie mislead for political reasons.

@ amanda;

Yes, and they did not run, ya know why, because Obama kept his cards close to the vest.If Obama outed them they would have been long gone. The positive of this is the people themselves took action. I was only trying to point out the positive of this and was attacked on all sides.

But hey lets spin this into the president lying to us for whatever unkown reason.lol

Fed Up With Fed said;

Wait a minute! Now we have 4 people killed in Tunis too? Get your story straight NBC...4 people were killed in Libya!

There was a protest against the anti--Islam film in Tunisia incited by Saif Benahssine that resulted in four people dead. This is completely separate from the attacks in Libya, and the four who died were Tunisian citizens/protestors. See below:

September 15, 2012, TUNIS: Four people were killed and almost 50 injured in an attack on the US embassy in the Tunisian capital on Friday by protesters angry over an anti-Islam film, the health ministry said.

"Three protesters were shot dead, the fourth was hit by a car and 49 people were injured, including nine seriously," a spokesman for the ministry told AFP on Saturday.

More than 20 police officers were among those hurt, said the spokesman, updating the toll the ministry had given the previous day of two dead and 40 injured.

Violent clashes broke out on Friday between security forces and protesters, who were protesting over the anti-Islam film produced in the United States.

@redvirginia;

It is true that Obama mention the word terrorist, however if you read the transcript of his speech, he mention terrorist in a context of the memorial of 9/11 2001 , he never made an actual statement calling to the incident in Benghazi a terrorist attack

Umm sorry mam, this was the Benghazi speech, here is the end of the speech with source. Where are you guys getting this stuff?lol

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/benghazi-libya-rose-garden-speech-2012-10#ixzz2AJQwVtEz

Seriously where did you get your info, so I do not use them as source.

and flame tha film the was not also the cause of the attack. Obama intentionally lie mislead for political reasons.

One he did not lie, noone has shown one lie to me. He called this an act of terror period.

redvirginia said;

Let free the Christian Coptic , he is right to speak out about Mohammad and his followers;

No. Let's not, because he wasn't jailed for the film, he was jailed because violated the terms of his parole!

He was previously convicted of, and served jail time for, stealing people's social security numbers, setting up fraudulent checking accounts with those stolen numbers, then writing checks that transferred money from the SS number holder's bank account to his fraudulent account, then withdrawing it, thereby stealing the legal SS number holders' money. Since this was all accomplished via online banking, the terms of his early parole were that he not engage in fraud, not misrepresent himself by using pseudonyms, and to have no access to the internet while unsupervised until his parole period was over. He violated all of those terms and he belongs in jail to serve the rest of his sentence.

If this was your social security number he used, and you knew he was convicted, served jail time, then you found out he'd violated the terms of his parole, would you want to see him out of jail again? People complain about illegals stealing social security numbers, why should a citizen who did the same thing get a free pass?

If this guy is let out of jail, it's very likely he'll steal more social security numbers, set up more fraudulent accounts, steal more money and use it to flee the country. One of those numbers might be yours. Would you 'donate' money to him to help him flee the country?

Kornfed said:

TUNIS, Tunisia - A leader of radical Islamist group Ansar al-Sharia was sentenced to one year in prison on Wednesday for inciting an attack on the U.S. Embassy in Tunis last month in which four people were killed.

The conviction of Abu Ayub was the first in connection with the attack - launched to protest againstan anti-Islamic film made in California. The United States has been urging authorities to jail those responsible.

LOL, they are still trying to call this a protest over a film, in which the producer is jailed as well. O'bama, you are a lying sack of @!$%#, sir. What a disgraceful, petty little man!

The four deaths in Tunisia WERE as a result of people protesting over the film:

September 15, 2012, TUNIS: Four people were killed and almost 50 injured in an attack on the US embassy in the Tunisian capital on Friday by protesters angry over an anti-Islam film, the health ministry said.

"Three protesters were shot dead, the fourth was hit by a car and 49 people were injured, including nine seriously," a spokesman for the ministry told AFP on Saturday.

More than 20 police officers were among those hurt, said the spokesman, updating the toll the ministry had given the previous day of two dead and 40 injured.

Violent clashes broke out on Friday between security forces and protesters, who were protesting over the anti-Islam film produced in the United States.

The protestors were all Tunisian citizens who were rioting in the street because Saif Benahssine got them riled up. None of the dead were US citizens. This is for all intents and purposes, an internal affair for Tunisia and we should not get involved--they have sovereignty over their citizens.

Bobster-1557895

One year sentence?!?!? LMFAO!! Way to go Hilary! Way to go Obama!! LOL!

Well bob, what would you have the President and Secretary of State do?...a Republican style invasion of a sovereign nation? I'm sure that's what Bush would have done and I'm sure it's what Romney will do if elected. So perhaps people like you will get your way after all.

You sound like a battered wife that is too scared to leave her husband. Let me help you put this in perspective. Imagine Bush in place of O'bama in this instance...

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Seems insults were more popular than truth on this vine today. I could of shredded quite a few of your misstatements, and lies and made a few of you look foolish today, but I go by the COH .I have respect for your opinions whether I agree with them or not., I ask for source because hey,I could be wrong, my sources are not always foolproof, and believe me I am told when they are wrong.lol But I accept it, and concede to the one that has righted me. The glory of the debate is that knowledge is gained every time.

dave simson,

"It's time to fix what GW Bush ruined, and that's exactly what Obama is doing." For the love of God, will you idiots stop blaming Bush for all the worlds' ills!! When the hell are you meatheads ever going to see obama as someone who hasn't taken one lick of responsibility for one dam thing done in his administration? It's either Bush did this or that or it ain't my fault.

obama is a weak, read really weak, apologetic "leader". obama isn't fixing a dam thing except for the worlds' perception of America. A weak leader (such as obama) = a weak America.

I see more and more believers in wanting a weak leadership for this country because of the numbers of "blame Bushers" commenting.

Coral - Are you posting from the white house? You have the same spin that they have been giving the American people since the terrorist attack. Here is a news flash for you. The emails have been made public, everyone knows it was not the video.

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#1.6 - Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:37 AM EDT
Asked to see the lies in these e mails,never happened, but yet it gets voted up , and my words were taken out of context. Never once said the video was the reason for the attack, just the perfect distraction and time to pull off the attack. But who cares about truth, right?

Blessed Goddess, there are a LOT of confused people posting here today!!!I am absolutely POSITIVE (after going through the four pages of comments so far on this article) that MANY people have Libya and Tunisia mixed up.

Again: The video was not the reason for the Benghazi attack but it WAS the reason for the Tunisia incident.

Saif Benahssine didn't kill four people. He, apparently, was one of the religious leaders who saw the anti-Islam film, either showed it/spoke of it to a large number of his followers in the al-Fatah mosque (thanks for the correction in post 4.4, liarsinpolitics) and told them to go out and protest. When his followers stormed out of the mosque and protested in front of the Tunisian embassy, he sneaked away and ran and hid. A cowardly act from a coward.

It would be somewhat equivalent to a leader of a religious sect who doesn't like gays telling his people to go out to protest at (for example) a gay pride parade, but didn't go himself, and someone got killed. The leader himself is not responsible for the killing but is guilty of incitement.

So Benahssine was charged with incitement, but as he did sneak away and was not present at the embassy protest, they can't get him on murder. Three of the protestors were shot by Tunisian authorities guarding our embassy, and one got run over by a passing car. Sorry, I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for them--they should have had more sense than to follow the orders of a misguided religious leader who didn't even have the cojones to LEAD this protest himself. my kids have more sense than to listen to someone who says 'do as I say, not as i do'. And sorry, no sympathy for the protestor who got run over by a car--could you NOT have gotten out of the freakin' ROAD?

The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We're working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I've also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.

Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.

As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

But we also know that the lives these Americans led stand in stark contrast to those of their attackers. These four Americans stood up for freedom and human dignity. They should give every American great pride in the country that they served, and the hope that our flag represents to people around the globe who also yearn to live in freedom and with dignity.

We grieve with their families, but let us carry on their memory, and let us continue their work of seeking a stronger America and a better world for all of our children.

Thank you. May God bless the memory of those we lost and may God bless the United States of America.

Coral Taxi

Obama was talking about act. of terror , and the word terror is synonymous of fear, horror, dread, fright, alarm, trepidation, shock, panic. It does mean that an act of terror is is not necessary caused by a terrorist , it coul be cause by a infuriated mob , like the protesters for the Mohamad film that Obama mention for more than a week.
In fact Obama define the act but not the actors in his speech, which is totally different semantic.

"coral",

If you have any language comprehention at all, it is abudantly evident that Mr. Obama was NOT referring to the recent acts in Benghazi, but instead of the previous terror attacks on our great Nation, when he was spewing his spin in the Rose Garden. At least he "stuck to his guns" for the next two weeks in denial.

"These emails are unclassified from the operation center and go to hundreds, if not thousands of people,” a White House official told NBC News.

“They basically say: we are under fire,” the official said

Since when did email become "social media"? I wasn't aware that our intellengence community was getting their information from facebook and twitter. Keep on wagging the dog Mr. Obama!!! Ultimately the truth will prevail. Have a great and deluded day you silly liberals!

@npcd;

it is abudantly evident that Mr. Obama was NOT referring to the recent acts in Benghazi, but instead of the previous terror attacks on our great Nation,

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

When someone says "no acts of terror",I would believe he is talking about any acts of terror, then says that four peple dying was a terrible act, I would say he was referring to the Bhengazi tragedy. Last time I checked many more than four perished in the 2001, 9/11 sir. Pint is Obam lied about nothing you nor anyone else can or has shown me different.

Quick...extradite him to the U.S., so Eric MY PEOPLE WithHolder can try him in NJ Traffic Court.....

Hey Fedup !!!

"The conviction of Abu Ayub was the first in connection with the attack - launched to protest against an anti-Islamic film made in California."

Actually it was launched to piggy-back on what was being blamed for the Benghazi attack... the film. If the U.S. had blamed McDonalds for causing the Benghazi attack, the following violence would have been to protest McDonalds.

Obama needed a scapegoat to sheild his leagacy from presiding over a terrorist attack and in finding one he handed the Muslim world a reason for further violence/vandalism.

Does everyone really not understand what is happening here? He was put in prison for his own protection, it looks like a Tunisia is helping the U.S. but a one year sentence is just basically putting him under government protection from a retaliatory Drone Strike.

riverboy said:

Does everyone really not understand what is happening here? He was put in prison for his own protection, it looks like a Tunisia is helping the U.S. but a one year sentence is just basically putting him under government protection from a retaliatory Drone Strike.

And yet another person who is confused.

The four deaths in Tunisia were as a result of people protesting over the film; no Americans were hurt; three of the people who died were shot by the Tunisian authorities for trying to break into the embassy and one poor idiot got run over by a freakin' car:

September 15, 2012, TUNIS: Four people were killed and almost 50 injured in an attack on the US embassy in the Tunisian capital on Friday by protesters angry over an anti-Islam film, the health ministry said.

"Three protesters were shot dead, the fourth was hit by a car and 49 people were injured, including nine seriously," a spokesman for the ministry told AFP on Saturday.

More than 20 police officers were among those hurt, said the spokesman, updating the toll the ministry had given the previous day of two dead and 40 injured.

Violent clashes broke out on Friday between security forces and protesters, who were protesting over the anti-Islam film produced in the United States.

The protestors were all Tunisian citizens who were rioting in the street because Saif Benahssine got them riled up. None of the dead were US citizens. There would be no drone strikes because NO AMERICANS WERE INVOLVED.

Amanda, thanks for your diligence. You would think that people would like to gather views and form an opinion but they watch inflammatory statements on Fox and then deny that it could have been any other way. Sean Hannity last night was totally fixated on Benghazi with a supporting cast of sycophants including Liz Cheney.

I was sent the video purporting to be Lybian thugs dragging the Ambassador through the streets. Sodomy of his corpse was mentioned as well. It turned out, as you say, to be an inflammatory interpretation. The crown rescued him from the burning building and rushed him to the nearest emergency room. The Doctor was interviewed on CNN and said he tried everything to save him but Ambassador Stevens died of smoke inhalation and asphyxia. By the way Fox Fans, he had no other injuries to his body.

In a similar vein, I read the report by the Chairman of the 911 Commission. For the longest time, Cheney's Dad and the rest of the Situation Room received conflicting intelligence about the planes - and guess what - they understandably got a lot of facts wrong. This includes the number of planes involved and which plane hit what. The Monday morning quarterbacks are always right but I have the utmost sympathy with the GWB gang for having to interpret on the fly. Obama tried to be real time transparent on this and the Right is trying to score points. Having a thorough investigation of all the intelligence is the only way to go on this. Well done Mr. President.

Amanda, you are confusing how the U.S. should function versus how it does function. Please explain to me why they would drone strike Yemeni Cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, but not drone strike Abu Ayub for doing the exact same thing?

It's obvious that many here are confused in a few points:

1- The revolts through the Middle East had started a few hours BEFORE the Benghazi attack (which might have been used by the AlQaida group as a great opportunity for them to carry the 9-11 attack).

2- This article is about Tunisia, and the four killed here were Tunisian attackers, NOT Americans.

3- Attacks on western property at Egypt, Sudan, and many other Muslims countries where going at the same time and based on the film. They had no way to know at first about the attack on Benghazi.

I think Coral Taxi is right in her assertion

Oh, I forgot to add, I never said Americans were killed and I never thought they were. I am not confusing Libya and Tunisia, or the Benghazi event. The cleric Anwar al-Awlaki didn't kill any Americans either but they assasinated him for inciting violence and agreeing with Al Qaeda's views. To be clear I am not against the assasination, just saying you don't have to kill Americans to get a drone strike and I never once said Abu Ayub did kill Americans.

Double post oops!

Amanda you seem to be the confused one here. I understood exactly what riverboy21 is trying to say and you are making some huge assumptions and putting words in his mouth. Anwar al-Awlaki was an American citizen living in Yemen as a Cleric and spiritual leader. He called for protests, violence, and for the all U.S. diplomats to leave the country of Yemen. He did not plan attacks against Americans but they attempted 3 drone strikes before finally succeeding in killing him. Not sure why you think every single comment here is confusing the Benghazi event when riverboy's had no mention of Americans getting killed, just comparing to an actual similar even that occurred earlier this year.

Hey Mike!

Holder wont try him at all......he will just classify it as Workplace Violence and send him over to the White House for a beer summit with Barry!

@magic;

Who does Obama condemn and have arrested, and sentenced to do time in jail ?

The guy who exercised free speech in America.

You sir are kidding yourself,here is Obama expressing the exact opposite view in his speech to the U.N that you accuse him of, read the rest after this paragraph , and he goes right to the root of freedom of speech, and how this is why we can not ban this video in America.

True democracy demands that citizens cannot be thrown in jail because of what they believe, and that businesses can be open without paying a bribe. It depends on the freedom of citizens to speak their minds and assemble without fear, and on the rule of law and due process that guarantees the rights of all people.

In other words, true democracy, real freedom is hard work.
Read more:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/25/transcript-obama-address-to-un-general-assembly/#ixzz2AMkAAJwS

yOu see how wrong you are, you see how I use Obamas own words to prove my point, something not one on these vines has done tonight to prove Obama a liar, neither will you

"Tunisia expects Washington to guarantee around a fifth of its $2.2-2.5 billion borrowing needs next year to help its economy recover from last year's revolution"

The balance also has to be managed through us!

Riot and kill. But want money badly from us!

Maybe you should look and see what they have done in the past and it might surprise you. There have been a few times that Muslims were killed and no riots or any protests happened. Maybe you should look it up? I remember an incident in Pakistan that I thought might piss off the people, but they barely even cared. Could be something to do with accidents, or any number of things like that person being a martyr and getting a free trip to heaven. For some reason there are no accidents when it comes to Allah, Muhammad, or the Koran however. It is almost exactly like some people are when it comes to Obama... No matter what he does haters are going to hate.

Peace loving Muslims... What percentage of people took part in the riots or protests? Was it less then 1% of the general population? YES IT WAS. How nice of you to judge an entire religion based on the actions of 1% of that group. Bet we have at least 1% of the Christians that are "bad". Bet we have at least 1% of the Jewish people that are "bad" too. Take any religion, race, or group of humans and I bet $ that at least 1% of them will be "bad". If there are good ones then there has to be bad ones. Simple probability.

Hey Tired - if you're going to derail, please post the links to back up your percentages regarding these other groups.

While we're chatting, why don't you give us your thoughts on the Partition of 1947 since you've brought Pakistan into your derail.

Steven said:

1 year? Really, for killing 4 people. Wow I wonder how much a person would get for killing 4 Muslims for no reason what so ever.

He didn't kill four people. He, apparently, was one of the religiois leaders who saw the anti-Islam film, showed it to a large number of his followers in the al-Fatah mosque, and told them to go out and protest. When his followers stormed out of the mosque and protested in front of the Tunisian embassy, he sneaked away and ran and hid. A cowardly act from a coward. It would be somewhat equivalent to a leader of a religious sect who doesn't like gays going out and protesting at a gay pride parade and someone got killed. The leader himself is not responsible for the killing but is guilty of incitement.

So Benahssine was charged with incitement, but as he did sneak away and was not present at the embassy protest, they can't get him on murder.

The peaceful loving Muslims just prove it day after day after day. They are anything but peaceful, and think nothing of killing anyone who does not believe all the brain washing of the Koran.

This arrest comes at the tail end of the Tunisian 'Arab Spring' uprising. In Tunisia it has been accomplished relatively peacefully, without the bloodshed that has characterized the governmental change elsewhere in the Middle East. The former government did not try to brutally crack down on the Arab Spring protestors, they held elections last October and chose a new President who is advocating for a change toward a more democratic (i.e. Westernized) government and more freedom and tolerance, and it's just a few people like this hardline radicalist Saif Benahassine who want a return to the old ways. The new democratically-inclined governement will let him have his say, but if he goes over the line and they can find something to charge him with, they will do so. This action is actually a big step forward for Tunisia; no one in the country has ever been arrested and convicted for airing fundamentalist views. By arresting, charging and sentencing through a democratic trial process, they are starting to send a message to the radicalists that their views of hatred are not the views of the people anymore and and it is the will of the people that a democratic government be emplaced.

Amanda, it is pure speculation to say they even saw the video.

I could speculate this was all over the anniversary of 9/11. That would be closer to the truth IMO.

If that is the case, we should not support the fountainheads of world problems including economic ones, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

Don't you feel that US and allies should remove sanctions on Iranian oil to crash oil prices?

With this just one sanctions business Sunni Saudis and co will be richer just like during Iraqi wars!

Iraqi wars bankrupted us and gave Europe PIIGS.

The Iranian sanction business is going to bring more economic miseries and making Sunni Saudis and their Sunni Islamic haters and killers like Salaffi, Wahhabi, MB, al Qaida, Taliban and other label ones stronger and stronger!

Why help the enemy?

Why get in between centuries old Shiites vs Sunni battles?

Steven100

1 year? Really, for killing 4 people. Wow I wonder how much a person would get for killing 4 Muslims for no reason what so ever.

One year? It's what he got and the 4 killed were Tunisians. But he's not accused of killing anyone but of incite revolt

@excaliber;

Why we continuing with same old lie.. Obama has lied he is responsible for 4 dead Americans

Do you not realize that presidents and vps are not security experts. Do you not realize many diplomats reject many protocols of required security in the ME as they are cumbersome. The SOS handles these things not the POTUS, get it straight. What did he lie about, Because he did not let the terrorists know he knew who they were. As in most beginning investigations you do not show your cards and put the bad guy on the run, which is why the people of were able to root them out and kick them out. There is a big difference in holding your cards close to the vest and lying, get that straight sir.

What did he lie about? You all say he lied what did he lie about? Show me with source his own words on Benghazi what he lied about? Put up or shut up.

Amazing how people will vote up specious words, this is more anti Obama than pro truth. Let me tell you now.

Hey, CORAL TAXI, Ya miss the 2nd Presidential debate? That would be when Obummer said that the day after the attack he labeled it a terrorist attack in the Rose Gaden, Candy Crowley backed him up. After review, HE DIDN'T SAY THAT. He was referring to 9-11-01 in the Rose Garden. By the way, Crowley is a HAG that shouldn't have opened HER lying mouth either.

There wasn't ANY mention of the escalating violence in Benghazi leading up to the attack, NOR the pullout of the security team in the weeks before 9-11-2012 (YOU BRIGHT ENOUGH TO NOTICE THE DATE?)

Easy to answer this question: The President claimed in the second debate that he called this action in Benghazi a terrorist attack, and then for several weeks following he downgraded the attack and blamed it on a protest over a video. Mortat fire takes calibration and planning, this could not have been the result of a protest. There are lies from the White House and the President. There is actually no question, and if you believe otherwise you need serious help

@laurence;

this could not have been the result of a protest,There are lies from the White House and the President

The white house does not form my opinion sir. lol I have been following the ME daily for over 30 yrs . As I explained earlier terrorist just as criminals are opportunist, they used the distraction of the riots to stage their attack.

Show me wher the president says all this neither of you offer any quotes.

That would be when Obummer said that the day after the attack he labeled it a terrorist attack in the Rose Gaden, Candy Crowley backed him up. After review, HE DIDN'T SAY THAT. He was referring to 9-11-01 in the Rose Garden. By the way, Crowley is a HAG that shouldn't have opened HER lying mouth either.

Show me this "further review" from an unbiased source. You guys just as your boy are all talk and no backbone. Source please! YOu are spinning the truth.

Here because you guys are so good at running from me, when faced with truth I will provide it for you. Remeber my main point,just because you hold your cards close to your vest does not make you a liar. The police do not release all their info when going after a serial murderer or kidnapper, and keep their some of their actions from the public. Are they liars also, or trying to keep the perps off balnce.

I would say the latter.

The counterclaim: "It took the president 14 days before he called the attack in Benghazi an act of terror," Romney responded moments later.

The facts: On September 12, the day after the attack that killed four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, Obama said in comments in the Rose Garden that he had learned about the attack on the consulate the night before.

Coral Taxi,

Give it up dude. You are getting destroyed in this debate by the informed posters. I'm starting to feel sorry for you.

@bobster;

Say What??!! I have offerd facts and truth, Not one of the others has used anything but their specious words to back themn up. If you think I am losing you are seriously kidding yourself.Now read this!!

Here's the thing: Obama did refer to the attack as a terror incident. Here's the choice quote, from the end of his speech:

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/benghazi-libya-rose-garden-speech-2012-10#ixzz2AJQwVtEz

Now what bobster? You will run like the rest now that the truth has been told.

Oh and I am not out " to win" anything, I am here to set the record straight.

Obama does not play when it comes to Americans being attacked. He is taking out terrorist leaders at a steady fast rate, I can not even keep up with who is in charge of AL Qeada anymore. All of you questioning our presidents resolve to protect America are kidding themselves. I would not defend him so fervently on it if it were not true.I have shown here on this post that your info is way off, and yet the anti Obama will vote you up regardless of the truth.

Coral Taxidermy
You yokels that can't see the cover-up are brain dead.. Obama's psychophants are all running helter-skelter and have been making this crap up as they go along since ti hapened. this is the most insidious pack of lies to come out of this admin yet. And whats more horrible is that 4 lives were lost. Sacrificial lambs to Nobama's re-election. Ya gotta get off of this single source of info ....begin to hear all the facts and then make an observation.

@tomsees;

You yokels that can't see the cover-up are brain dead

Yes sir it is a CNN, and fact checkers cover up.lol THese are my first sources far from the only ones. CNN in my opinion is one the most unbiased outlets.

Now show me this lie, "cover up" back up your talk?

this is the most insidious pack of lies to come out of this admin yet.

All of you keep talking about these lies, please if so many are sure on this just show me one quote that even assumes a lie. Every one of you ignored the point I amke when you are are at the beginning of an investigation you do not show your cards to the perps, noe of you answer to this and turn this into lying?lol

begin to hear all the facts and then make an observation.

I am the only one here using facts, you guys and gals are incredible.lol

Now tom I have shown you mine,with source,now show me yours with source.

Now instead of showing me how wrong I am with facts, the insults are starting, textbook reaction from those that can not back themselves up with more than just their words.Cue the crickets!lol

Not even one quote of lie, or the assumption of a lie with source. Keeping things to yourself to protect an investigation is not a lie, it is a tactic used for years by investagators to catch many perps .

Where did you all go??? Come back for more truth when you have time.lol

Give it up dude. You are getting destroyed in this debate by the informed posters. I'm starting to feel sorry for you

Seems your the one that has given up. Show me one exampole of how I am "getting destroyed" when not ONE has backed anything up with more than their words. YOu guys and gals are the ones that have given up because you can not argue with facts.

Why we continuing with same old lie

Yes why are you? LOL

Taxi,

"CNN"

LMFAO!!!!

Isn't this the same liberal media outlet that had the cheeseburger-munching fat chick moderator helping out Obama in the second debate? LOL! Yeah, real balanced!

Liberals! God love em!

@bobster;

The point is that you are wrong and I am right I have proven this,you have not.

What a non retort, you have nothing, I also used fact checkers, my source and example are valid, you can not and are not disputing them. Once again with the insults because you have nothing better to say .

cheeseburger-munching fat chick moderator helping out Obama in the second debate?

Real brilliant bob,it is an honor to be chosen as a moderator for a presidential debate.You are obviously a very superficial person. She only spoke the truth that I have backed up here today, ad nauseum.lol You have only made yourself look worse coming back with insults, and no facts.

Coral Taxi schooled all of you worthless repubes today. This was a good read. Coral has the facts with proper citing, and the Repubes have the attacks. Petty ones at that .

Coral -15

Repubes -0

"The conviction of Abu Ayub was the first in connection with the attack - launched to protest against an anti-Islamic film made in California."

Actually it was launched to piggy-back on what was being blamed for the Benghazi attack... the film. If the U.S. had blamed McDonalds for causing the Benghazi attack, the following violence would have been to protest McDonalds.

Obama needed a scapegoat to sheild his leagacy from presiding over a terrorist attack and in finding one he handed the Muslim world a reason for further violence/vandalism.

Coral Taxi,

Be careful when arguing with Boobster that he doesn't bite you. While I don't always agree with you I'd still hate to see you become a mindless Zombie as there is no cure for his its venom.

Now CNN has become the official News outlet for the Liberals? I thought that was MSNBC with Rachel, Ed, Chris, and the Gang. Damn those Liberals must be Borg like in their "Conquests"......... does that make the Far Right The Knights that say Nee- LOL.

Howie,

You stalking me again Slappy? LOL! Ahhh, what a cute little stalker you are. LMFAO!

Liberals. God love em!

Outside of his two debate appearances -- on Oct. 16 and Oct. 22 -- the GOP candidate has eschewed attacking President Barack Obama's handling of the Sept. 11, 2012 attacks on a U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya at any of his public events.

I think this is a good idea for Mitt. I believe today I have beat this horse to death, ressurected it and beat it down again.lol Now lets bury the blame game on Bhengazi. Please be more careful of accusing our president of lying in the future.

Even your hopefull fearless laeder knows when to quit, I hope you guys and gals follow suit.lol

I stated before as did many others that Romney could not come through on all his tax promises for America, well there is a manifesto out that is not going to be good for him. I will save it for later if msnbc does not break this, they are always hours if not a day behind my sources.lol

Ow! That was really good.

Naw....President Stinky (BO) is good with the guns and god of the terrorists. Those he can use.

VLGil

"obama should go over there and tell them they shouldn't cling to their Guns and God."

It's amusing to see how some of you conservatives deal with regular life events in a hateful political way and then laugh and joke at the death of others.

Though some of your Newsvine "buddies" might see your "joke" as another medium in which to deride our president, the death of humans is tragic for those of us who are "NORMAL" humans.

Those poor ignorant folks in the ME countries who cling to their "guns and God" and they're encouraged, are no different to those ignorant folks in our country who cling to their guns and God and are not. It's a matter of location.

The real fact is that when you're a Christian, weapons to kill others (including guns) are AGAINST Christ's teachings and so against Christianity, so which ARE you??

Well? Weren't they at work?

It was work-related for the U.S. Embassy guards to shoot attackers when necessary, wasn't it??

Unfortunately they had to kill 4 Tunisian attackers.

All politicians lie not just Obama. Once this killing took place it became a national security issue. In addition they started congressional hearings. It's the media. I don't believe the government owed us any explanation until all the facts were known. Once President Obama said they would be found and dealt with I was fine. He's the best commander and chief we've had since Regan. He's not afraid to go after these guys.

Tired, I seem to remember a deck of cards that was put out (before Oblabla) that had all the most sought after terrorists. He just takes credit for everything, and does little. It was just lucky it happened on his watch, that's all.

no Obama is bad but he has yet lunched 100 missles the day he is being impeached , wow that is ideal for him he can get bunch people killed on Nov 6 early in morning and maybe the smart 50% that care when Americans gets killed will choose too stay home and watch the news instead of voting for a man that worked for living such as Mitt.Obama never worked a true day in his life.what companies did he work for I forgot.What about that bastard maker farther of his ? Did he ever work?Better yet did the bastard maker have a working visa too have a job or did he live off Obama's mother.

Chefaz said:

Murder Americans and borrow bucks that will never be repaid.

No Americans died in Tunisia! See my post at 1.32. The guy was jailed over protests in Tunsia in which 4 TUNISIAN CITIZENS died, three shot by Tunisian police and one was hit by a car!

Face it Amanda, these guys are unencumbered by inconvenient facts!! They are hearing only the crickets in their heads.

Like half the country???

He always sleeps better when Americans die.

For those of you who support Trouble, or even just believe his lies, ...that is your right to do so...

Just remember, he said he wants to dance on the graves of Ted Kennedy and the folks
who died on 9-11-2001.

He insults the military, especially those who served long enoughto earn pensions.

"pensions from the Navy. All they did was get paid to be on a cruise""'sea going bellhops"

But, worse, he laughs at the deaths of two young men, age 19 and 22, then lies about
their service saying they both could not serve at the same time in Iraq....I never said
they served at the same time, only that both died there.

Here's more:

"Longtime GOP Senate moderate Arlen Specter dies
Sun Oct 14, 2012

Trouble: "I am almost as torn up about this as when Kennedy kicked the bucket."
"I laughed when sphyncter bit it." (I won't point out he does not know how to
spell sphincter..LOL)

"Racists hate it that white people are more intelligent."

Notice one other thing...he does not use the standard ROFL or even LMAO,
no...he has to get the "F" bomb in by using "LMFAO"

Keep supporting that hateful, lying, bigoted, name-calling, slime....you deserve him.

If anyone needs to see his quotes, I have them....just ask...

@Trouble:
The amazing thing about your posts is they have no impact because they are so stupid.
I'm sure everyone does like I do and reads nothing you post, your name shows that it
is just ignorance, hatred, bigotry, and lies, and moves on. Hopefully, you might
even brush your tooth.

@Trouble...

You are still a lying gutless coward. When I do get down and pray, I have offered prayer
for you, your grandkids, and your brother....how did you react? You replied 'LMFAO".

Did you say thanks for the prayer? No. You said "LMFAO"

Now, you cry for sympathy for your so-called grandkids. You are a phoney, a liar, and a
bigot. You know where I will be Jan 18-22, 2013....Ritz-Carlton, 10th floor...you are
too big of a coward to even show up.

You want sympathy? Look between sh*t and syphilis in the dictionary.

BTW, why not spin your story about your grandkids and your brother? Afraid to show
your lies? I can post it for you if you wish.

If Trouble will stop telling lies about my grandsons, I will stop telling the truth about his
"brother" and his "grandkids with Down's Syndrome."

VLG I wonder how George Bush slept the night of the original 911 night after he ignored the memos warning of possible attacks by air or how he and his administration slept when they told everyone working at ground zero that the air was safe to breath. They worked there month after month believing the Bush administration's lies but are no longer alive to complain.

Oh but any lies that might have been told as to whether 4 of our people died because of a terrorist attack or because of a movie far exceeds any other lies....I get it but you clearly don't!

Not more than Bush's administrations. Don't get me started on the amount of Americans he sent to their deaths in the ME because of his lies.

The attack had nothing to do with a film........ 9/11 must be a coincedense, right? Mportar fire that takes careful calibration in order to be effective? What are you on? Open your eyes and smell the d\coffee lol. You are living in the Obama Abyss of blatant ;lies and cover ups. So pull your covers over your head, or you might find out what the truth is.

THIS EXCHANGE SAYS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT TROUBLE AND HIS MENTALITY...
HIS REPLY NEAR THE BOTTOM:

@Trouble,

That is fine, hope you find the right graves to dance on at the National Cemetary...

But, why not just dance on all of them, there are thousands! Mostly military, some from
government service

If you don't want perverts to have your email address, why give it to Uly and
ConvenientiLies?

Sorry your golf match got rained out....

Now, one last point, and everyone can see what I am telling you...

I have offered blessings upon your brother, and like it or not on you and your grandkids...
I have offered an olive branch, you refuse to accept any of it....Your loss.

As long as you continue to call-names, (and not just to me), to bastardize names, to spin
lies, or anything of the sort, I will not stoop to the low-class level you live on, such
as #1203.5.

If you wish to discuss something, without the crap, let me know.

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trouble46545

LMFAO

#1203.7 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:26 PM CDT

THIS REPLY, ABOVE, WAS IN RESPONSE TO HIS STATEMENT OF DANCING ON THE
GRAVES OF MY GRANDSONS WHO DIED IN IRAQ.

And, to clarify his latest lie, I NEVER ONCE SAID THEY SERVED IN IRAQ AT THE SAME TIME

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@Trouble:

"pensions from the Navy. All they did was get paid to be on a cruise""'sea going bellhops"

You criticized Navy pensions....all of us here would love to hear about your military
heroics...don't hold back...tell it all...all your combat and exciting battles....

Thanks for insulting hundreds of thousands of military veterans who protected your slimy
ass for so many years.

Now, if Trouble will stop telling lies about my grandsons, I will stop telling the truth about his "brother" and his "grandkids with Down's Syndrome."

"The conviction of Abu Ayub was the first in connection with the attack - launched to protest against an anti-Islamic film made in California."

Actually it was launched to piggy-back on what was being blamed for the Benghazi attack... the film. If the U.S. had blamed McDonalds for causing the Benghazi attack, the following violence would have been to protest McDonalds.

Obama needed a scapegoat to sheild his leagacy from presiding over a terrorist attack and in finding one he handed the Muslim world a reason for further violence/vandalism.

The only thing that is Unbelievable is you posting such nonsense.

Hey Grandpa, does senility run rampid in your family or are you just stupid?

Rapid - A non-existant word that mentally challenged people often confuse with the word "rampant."

Now who is stupid?

Grampa...you're such an excellent teacher. I have learned that "rapid" is a non-existant word (?) and as such, this non-existant word is often confused with the word "rampant."

Grammar/spelling might not be your better characteristics but thin-skinned, knee-jerk reflexs seem sound.

thanks for the lesson.

This is his version of "transparency".

There was a protest against the anti--Islam film in Tunisia incited by Saif Benahssine that resulted in four people dead. This is completely separate from the attacks in Libya, and the four who died were Tunisian citizens/protestors. No Americans died--the Tunisian security forces kept our embassy personnel safe. See below:

September 15, 2012, TUNIS: Four people were killed and almost 50 injured in an attack on the US embassy in the Tunisian capital on Friday by protesters angry over an anti-Islam film, the health ministry said.

"Three protesters were shot dead, the fourth was hit by a car and 49 people were injured, including nine seriously," a spokesman for the ministry told AFP on Saturday.

More than 20 police officers were among those hurt, said the spokesman, updating the toll the ministry had given the previous day of two dead and 40 injured.

Violent clashes broke out on Friday between security forces and protesters, who were protesting over the anti-Islam film produced in the United States.

"The conviction of Abu Ayub was the first in connection with the attack - launched to protest against an anti-Islamic film made in California."

Actually it was launched to piggy-back on what was being blamed for the Benghazi attack... the film. If the U.S. had blamed McDonalds for causing the Benghazi attack, the following violence would have been to protest McDonalds.

Obama needed a scapegoat to sheild his leagacy from presiding over a terrorist attack and in finding one he handed the Muslim world a reason for further violence/vandalism.

Anyone who has watched Willard knows who the Liar is. Brian I'm not sure what a Den or Resting place has to do with anything.

Wow, coming from a real idiot that really impress's me.

@Grandpa: That should be "impresses" not "impress's". And you're correcting other people's English?

My bad. I just have a problem that because I don't agree with someone they call me an idiot or senile.

@Grandpa: Well, I for one do not consider you an idiot. Yes, often times name calling is where insecure people go when their tenuous views are challenged. You know, the scariest thing in the world ins't a shark or being afraid of the dark, it's being proved wrong, and that is what scares some of these people - particularly in a public forum.