
Soe Zeya Tun / Reuters
A girl joins others collecting pieces of metal from the rubble in a neighborhood in Pauktaw township that was burned in recent violence October 27, 2012.
SITTWE, Myanmar - A human rights group expressed concern for the safety of thousands of Muslims on Saturday after revealing satellite images of a once-thriving coastal community reduced to ashes during a week of violence in western Myanmar.
The images released by the New York-based Human Rights Watch show "near total destruction" of a predominantly Rohingya Muslim part of Kyaukpyu, one of several areas in Rakhine state where battles between Rohingyas and ethnic Rakhine Buddhists threaten to derail the former Burma's fragile democratic transition.
More than 811 buildings and houseboats were razed in Kyaukpyu on Oct. 24, forcing many Rohingya to flee north by sea toward the state capital Sittwe, Human Rights Watch said.
"Burma's [Myanmar’s] government urgently needs to provide security for the Rohingya in Arakan (Rakhine) State, who are under vicious attack," Phil Robertson, the group's deputy Asia director, said.
There were widespread unconfirmed reports of boatloads of Rohingyas trying to cross the sea border to neighboring Bangladesh, which has denied them refugee status since 1992.
No food, no water
Rohingyas in dozens of packed boats with no food or water that have fled Kyaukpyu -- an industrial zone important to China -- and other recent hotspots were seeking access on Friday to overcrowded refugee camps around the state capital Sittwe, according to four Rohingya refugee sources.
Some boats were blocked by security forces from reaching the shore and few Rohingyas managed to reach the camps, the sources said by telephone.
A crew from Britain's Channel 4 News gains access to resettlement camps set-up for around 60,000 members of the Muslim minority group months after deadly clashes with local Buddhists forced them from their homes.
Wan-lark foundation, an organization that has been assisting Rakhine Buddhist refugees, said no clashes in the state had been reported to them since Friday night, but dead bodies of Rakhines had been found.
"Around 6pm last night in Kyawtyaw, the bodies of 16 Rakhines were found in the sea. They had died during the attacks on Thursday. We're looking for more bodies," representative Tun Mein Thein said on Saturday.
The chaos suggests the reformist government is struggling to contain historic ethnic and religious tensions suppressed during nearly a half century of military rule that ended last year.
Myanmar government ends direct media censorship
A Rakhine government spokesman put the death toll at 112 as of Friday. But within hours state media revised it to 67 killed from Oct. 21 to 25, with 95 wounded and nearly 3,000 houses destroyed.
The death toll could be far higher, said Human Rights Watch, citing "allegations from witnesses fleeing scenes of carnage and the government's well-documented history of underestimating figures that might lead to criticism of the state."
The clashes come just five months after communal unrest killed more than 80 people and displaced at least 75,000 in the same region.

Soe Zeya Tun / Reuters
Hla Hla Myint, who suffered a gunshot wound to the head in recent violence, rests in a bed at a hospital in Kyuktaw township, Myanmar, Thursday.
'Ethnic cleansing'
A boat carrying 120 Muslims from Kyaukpyu was intercepted by Rakhines, who killed the men and raped the women, the advocacy group Burmese Rohingya Organisation U.K. claimed in a statement. This report could not be verified, Reuters said.
"Ethnic cleansing is happening under the noses of the international community and they are doing nothing," said Tun Khin, the group's president. "We have confirmed reports that hundreds of people have been killed and the government must be aware of that."
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Kyaukpyu is crucial to China's most strategic investment in Myanmar: Twin pipelines that will carry oil and natural gas through the town on the Bay of Bengal to China's energy-hungry western provinces.
The United Nations has warned that Myanmar's fledgling democracy could be "irreparably damaged" by the violence.
Rohingyas are officially stateless. Buddhist-majority Myanmar's government regards the estimated 800,000 Rohingyas in the country as illegal immigrants from Bangladesh, and not as one of the country's 135 official ethnic groups, and denies them citizenship.
But many of those expelled from Kyaukpyu are not Rohingya but Muslims from the officially recognized Kaman minority, said Chris Lewa, director of the Rohingya advocacy group, Arakan Project. "It's not just anti-Rohingya violence anymore, it's anti-Muslim," she said.
It was unclear what set off the latest arson and killing that started on Sunday. In June, tension flared after the rape and murder of a Buddhist woman that was blamed on Muslims, but there was no obvious spark this time.
Rights groups such as Amnesty International have called on Myanmar to amend or repeal a 1982 citizenship law to end the Rohingyas' stateless condition.
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We need to stop muslims from entering the USA and the EU.
i guess it goes both ways....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqRTL6WRDZI&NR=1&feature=fvwp
Right away.
Also ban all mosques, hate preaching and killer training centers in the US. No delay please. Let us live in peace!
"Buddhist-majority Myanmar's government regards the estimated 800,000 Rohingyas in the country as illegal immigrants from Bangladesh, and not as one of the country's 135 official ethnic groups, and denies them citizenship."
Just examine how they sneak in and exand their Islamic influence. At least, learn from past!
In 47, the current Bangladesh portion had about 40 percent of Hindus, Buddhists, Christians and other minorities. Right now there are hardly ten of them remaining.
After ruining their Bangladesh, like Muslims from other nations, they have sneaked into India, Burma and other Asian non-Muslim nations.
India itself has about 30 million illegal Bangladesh Muslims. These Muslims are back to Muslim business of square one: raping, stealing, looting, rioting and killing! As they form a big voting block, some parties support them!!! Govt is scarred to touch them!
Similar things are going on in UK, France and many European nations.
that's a good reason to use deadly force to protect our borders from a illegal invasion...tell it to our politicians at election time...they just shot some at the border fleeing at the border...they are calling it a unjustified shooting...it's B.S....shoot them foreign invaders...protect our borders...
It shouldn't be too hard if they're getting their butts kicked by Buddhists.
Religion of piece of schit getting pasted by Buddhists! It takes a lot to get Buddhists to the breaking point and finally they have reached it. They have shown a lot of restraint in the past but this time they let loose and the religion of POS have got a great taste of their medicine. Muslims create a havoc when someone draws Mohammed or burns a koran, but the buddhists did not do any such thing when the historical 2000 year Buddha statues in Bamiyan Province in Afghanistan were destroyed. Muslims have created havoc with Christians, Jews, Hindus, Zorastrians, Buddhists and so forth. They better learn to integrate and live in peace or else the world will show them where they belong.
"The people who deserve a "Taste of their own medicine" are the people responsible for terrorist attacks." Yes that would be the Muslims!! They try to kill little girls that tell them they are wrong. They kill anyone that does not believe the same as them. So tell me again, who is it that deserves a good taste of what they do to EVERYONE else. That would be them!!
@ Jonathan-1982062
You are missing the point and the post is very arbitrary---You are also creating hatred about others who may be different among Americans who are over-all simple and honest minded people.
Larry:
Then those guilty people should suffer, but your implication is that every man, woman and child that is Muslim is guilty of attempted murder or being evil despite them taking up nearly a quarter of the population of our planet. It is a corrupted religion that has caused many deaths, but returning it by killing innocents does nothing to stop the problem, nor does this "Ban Muslims from the US" nonsense that destroys the U.S's sense of religious freedom and gives Government power over what we can believe in.
@Josh
You are wasting your time trying to talk some sense into these idiots. You going to need common sense and reasoning for a productive conversation and these morons have none.
I'm willing to bet most these people wanting the Muslims to suffer are Christians. What we have here is like a fuking lynch-mob mentality.
SomeUSguy: Sometimes, truth and realities hurt some. One can run away from them for some time but not all the times.
sorry jonathan (you should change your name) its never justified to murder innocent people never. Being of a specific race or religion does not make that person guilty. That is the mentality of people who commit genocide. The reality is ..yet better to set a guilty man free than to persecute and innocent one.
Comment # 1 deleted, for death trolling.
Religion = Intolerance... debate it all you want, but that is true. Look up John Lennon's lyrics for the song "Imagine". It's just as relevant today as it was when he first wrote those words... perhaps even more so. I've always found it a very profound song.
I would bet everything I have if muslims would behave like normal human beings, nothing like this would ever happened. First they come in and shortly after they tell their hosts how to live
John Lennon = HYPOCRITE.
He and many other British Fled England to the US to get away from the British "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share". Samething that is currently occuring with France's "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share".
You see it too? Johnny Depp will be leaving France very soon too! Watch him!!
It is ironic that the Muslim community states that the world is doing nothing about their ethnic cleansing in Burma or Myramar since the Taliban and other Muslims have been doing the same thing. On the other hand, the world cannot afford this kind of action anywhere. It is wrong and as a Chritian, it cannot be condoned even if it happens to us by arrogant people who feel superior to others. No matter what religion you are, you should have the right to freedom and it is about time all religions understand that. We don't want Karl Marx's remark on religion to coome back and haunt us.
Eric-535069-- "Freedom" is blasphemous in many religions. In Islam, self-effacing is the norm. Additionally, they expect that all those around them and in the world abide by it as well. So, they are actually in reverse of everyone else's view. While we say 'right to freedom' they say everyone should be like they are and anyone who is not are infidels. This is a line of thinking that's so programmed, I don't know how the global community can change it.
According to the Declaration of Independence, we are all "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights", but we had to fight to obtain and to keep those rights. The Bible understands that .... it says "The ord helps those who help themselves."
And the bible is full of $hit.....
In all this It is from ~The Human Rights Groups~ that say we should go and do aomething about it. If they feel something should be done. Let them go there get shot a few times to tell us how they have helped.
"We should do Nothing!.. We have no business going there letting our own troops die for their start of civil start up of disobediance they want to do amongst themselves"
Our government has spent enough money on wars to get people to change. Have we not learned that other countries have no need of us there to figure out what they need or want and spend money helping them build what they damaged? We need to just get Our Own Country back on its feet. To help our own people... so We as a Nation...can succeed as a whole again.
This is just an Opinion. Not to be taken ...if you dont agree with me.
LordP....are you intolerant of religion? Much more intolerant are wealth....power....prejudice. Christianity, as practiced by the Paulicians....(ever hear of Teprice, LordP?) was the most tolerant of any city in its time.....to include other religions which were persecuting them. And, where do you think the freedom that you are enjoying came from? In the 17th and 18th Century, even in America, INtolerance was the word....until a little group of Christians got the King's permission to establish Rhode Island, and include in its charter.....religious freedom......tolerance......for all. THEN began the understanding which we take so much for granted. BTW, having a different opinion than others in not being intolerant. It means that we all don't think the same way. Being intolerant is not allowing the other to state their opinion, or live out their beliefs. Don't just ape what others say......think for yourself. (Might not be a bad idea to do some real research.....like, study the history of the person/people you are trying to villify, before inserting foot into mouth.
Personally, I just don't believe in any gods. I'm not intolerant of religions so long as their believers don't try to impose their beliefs on anyone who doesn't believe in their specific doctrines. I grew up in a religious family and went to church several times a week. I also like studying history, but to be honest, the Christian/Muslim/Jewist monotheism is a fairly new trend in the scope of history. What's really ridiculous is that all three of those have a common basis. How is any relatively new relgion any more valid than it's predecessors? BTW 2,000 years isn't old in the history of relgious beliefs. Mankind has always been grasping at straws when it comes to understanding their own existence and how it came to be. The belief in gods is just another manifestation of that desperate need to understand.
By the way, insulting me by claiming I "ape" others really shows your own unwillingness to at least listen to a differing opinion.
Killing Muslims. What is wrong with that? Maybe even
Killing Muslims. What is wrong with that? Maybe " Allah" is not watching over them anymore. Remember 9/ll? Kill everyone of them.
Mike Bennett: Saudi Arabia does not permit Bible and non Islamic religious places.
At least, we can make a start by closing all mosques, hate preaching and killer training centers.
Next: it is better that Muslims die in a Muslim nation. Allah will be happy. So start kicking out problematic Muslims from the US.
jonathan, there are >50 muslim majority countries. you mention saudia arabia but don't mention that in all of the others, there are thousands of churches and millions of christians
if you propose closing all mosques in the us, then you must be fine with closing all churches in muslim majority countries
Pick any of the 50 Islamic Nations that you have obviously never lived at, and I will tell you about what you will perceive as Islam's "Religious" persecution and intolerance.
rstoutness: There are 100 more non-Muslim ones. Even among 50 plus Muslim nations, Muslims are killing each other!
They call this a religion of peace, ha! what a huge crock. The Muslkim religion is abnout control and dictatorship of others. Woman have no rights or freedom, they are just breeders and slaves to man in that sick cult.
piegan sorry to say you got it wrong. It is not peace but piece as in piece of schit. Muslims are all about a piece of this and a piece of that. They have moved around the world, bred like rodents and carved out pieces of land for themselves through wars, ethnic cleansing and forcibly converting ppl to islam. They are up to the same game in the US and Europe and elsewhere in the world where they already do not have a hold like in Central and South America. It is time to pack them off to the ME and contain them there. They become a real nuisance once they attain critical mass.
unbelievable amount of ignorant comments on this post, no matter what you think of Islam and most of you have never read or cared to learn about Islam all your knowledge comes from your own stupid ignorant upbringing, full of hate and bigotry still you can not be so stupid that you do not see what is going in in Myanmar, a country that less than a year a go was considered to have the worst record in human rights, an absolute cleansing and killing of 800000 Muslims is going on and all that most of you civilized people are spreading is bigotry and hate, way to go you civilized bastards. that what come from western civilization, ya we need to follow your lead and learn from you. 1.5 billion Muslims and growing every day, the fastest growing religion in the world at this time, ever asked your self why, go and read a book you ignorant bastards.
Reproduction.
I'm guessing you were referring to some lofty notion about Islam...it's just another philoshophy, one which tends to inspire violent fundamentalists.
That poor dog
poor dog...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKm5xQyD2vE
People with simple minds can only see black and white, or friend or foe. Pretty sure this has nothing to do with religion in this case, but MONEY. They are like Mexicans trying to cross the border here in the U.S. hoping to better themselves. The people already there want MORE money and have found a common scapegoat to pick on. I believe the correct phase or term should be "Capitalism or Competition kills". Regardless of it is over money, souls, power, women, etc. competition kills.
In order for humanity to succeed we need to kill off the weaker ones of us somehow or someway. There should be some rules or a standard to it trying to ensure that it is the weakest ones that are killed or die. For example we all run across a field with lions, tigers, wolves, etc. in pursuit. The slowest gets eaten and that is your passage into manhood/the tribe. That or we have a mix of machines that do the same and test for intelligence for example. That or we need to have less people on this planet, and even then we might need to trim some fat/cull the herd a little. The problem with Capitalism that has low tax rates is that the wrong (weak) people get rewarded many times and the strong ones do not get rewarded. (Low tax rates breed stagnation and break the system by letting one group acquire to much. There are no brakes to stop the "rich" person driving the car from hitting the wall. To bad they are not the only ones in the car.)
Don't even attempt that lame example (excuse). The Majority not the minority of Illegal Aliens have no intent of ever becoming Legal Immigrants, as the Cost of Living at the US is too high. The majority come to the US to make money, send the money "home" to their Nation of Origin, then return "home" to live like Kings and Queens (low cost of living). To further decrease their expenses at the US, they bring their families with them and using the Lawyers of Illegal Alien Advocacy Groups in the US get all the Entitlements and Benefits usually for Only US Citizens after their Lawyers defeated California Proposition 187 in Federal Court set a Legal Precedent.
This is called individual selfishness of the Illegal Aliens, instead of attempting to make their Nations of Origin better for themselves and future Generations. In the case of Mexico, if you are rejected from being a Mexican Military Conscript as imprinted on your Mexican National Identification Card (must be in your possession at all times), you are a second or third class Citizen (Undesirable).
Then Mexican Illegal Aliens at the US have already repeatedly stated their intent since the 1950s as a US National Security Threat, to Overthrow the Governments of States to form Aztlan. As well as becoming the Majority in the US by Growth Rates. This is why President Eisenhower ordered as a National Security Threat Operation Wetback to apprehend and deport Illegal Aliens at the US including their "Those Little Frauds" (aka Anchor Babies, a means for their Illegal Alien parents to collect Public Assistance and remain in the US. As previously determined a (preplanned) Fraud against the US Citizens by the US Supreme Court).
Do not even get into the Tax thing, until you READ the Actual, not Politically Correct Rewritten US History. The US Founded by the Rich Elitist Founding Fathers that refused to pay the "Rich Pay Their Fair Share", "Tax the Rich" of the British Stamp Act Taxes. For every Nation that did your "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share" I can give examples of the Rich fleeing those Nations leaving the "Middle Class" and the "Poor" to get the crap Taxed out of them, with their Industries, and means of living demolished, as their Economies collapsed.
Good for them. They see the threat. Wait until they get stronger in the US we will have the bombing here. There is no such person a a peaceful muslim. Read the khan, quran or how ever the correct spelling of that garbage is. Written by a control freak man. Do you see anything written by a woman? Hell no. They are slaves to a muslim and have brained washed their women to the fact.
unbelievable amount of ignorant comments on this post, no matter what you think of Islam and most of you have never read or cared to learn about Islam all your knowledge comes from your own stupid ignorant upbringing, full of hate and bigotry still you can not be so stupid that you do not see what is going in in Myanmar, a country that less than a year a go was considered to have the worst record in human rights, an absolute cleansing and killing of 800000 Muslims is going on and all that most of you civilized people are spreading is bigotry and hate, way to go you civilized bastards. that what come from western civilization, ya we need to follow your lead and learn from you. 1.5 billion Muslims and growing every day, the fastest growing religion in the world at this time, ever asked your self why, go and read a book you ignorant bastards.
"The chaos suggests the reformist government is struggling to contain historic ethnic and religious tensions suppressed during nearly a half century of military rule that ended last year"
That suppressive military rule was a Muslim military rule, now that it has toppled the Bhuddists are taking their revenge, Bhuddists have been known to do this many times before, they are very tolerant of other religions as long as they are not oppressive.
This Bhuddist/Muslim tension was and still is the driving factor between the hatred of India and Pakistan of each other, Religious tolerant India vs. Religious intolerant Pakistan and Bhuddists are at the core of the Muslim Oppression Resistance, I applaude them for that.
Do NOT even attempt to Rewrite History.
India = Hindu.
Pakistan = Fundamentalist Islam (Muslims) that fought against India to form Pakistan.
Word!!
Religion. The cause of/solution to all lifes problems.
I've had it. I'm taking the next transport to planet Kolob
Maybe we can deport all the muslums to Kolob?
Maybe we can deport all religions to Kolob?
Religion has always been and always will be a double-edged sword. Part of it is supposed to be there to enrich people's lives, to give them hope where this none (psych 101) while the dark side of it is hell-bent on destroying any opposition (self-preservation). The (almost) perfect weapon. I can't wait until people evolve past such meager attempts at controlling the masses by fear and prejudice. This includes political differences.
My optimistic side tells me we will overcome and adapt. My pessimistic side tells me that our species is doomed to fail, and will eventually end up destroying the only home we have (Earth). It may take another few hundred years either way to determine the outcome. If I were to bet on this, I would sway towards fail.
There you go again (your other previous Newsvine posts) being Uneducated about Islam, using your Limiting Western term "Religion" pertaining to Islam.
Just out of curiousity, david-475776, how WOULD you prefer us "Uneducated" to refer to Islam? All-Emcompassing Socio/Political/Belief/LifeGuide Formative Structure is a little unweildy for the standard posting.
Your exposure to Islam shows in your intolerance in your postings. Starts to rub off on you after a while, eh? Going native?
Just name Islam what it is the "Islamic Belief" (as how Islamic Believers would translate into American English). All other descriptions or labels just marginalize the extent of the situation. Over 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers Worldwide as a cohesive Force (the majority being Fundamentalist Islamic Believers).
Thank you, sir.
What goes around comes around muzzies. Get use to it.
Pretty obvious this is all Obama's fault. LOL
Isn't diversity wonderful...it separates people and breeds intolerance. 135 official ethnic groups and they pick one to hate.
Has NOTHING to do with Ethnic Groups; Islam is NOT an Ethnic Group, just like being a US Citizen is not an Ethnic Group.
We see Muslims inventing problems in most of the non-Muslim nations.
Even in the US, we can notice these actions!
In the US, one Muslim from Bangladesh wanted to blow up Fed Reserve. He had come for studies and was hardly twenty! As per his family: "he is pious and he wanted to study."
Why have these Islamic religious beasts in the first place in a non-Muslim nation?
In 9/11, one of the biggest terrorist attack in the history of humans, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and UAE had a hand!
There have been many terrorist attacks and more terror plots in the US itself!
Has travel not become a torture after these Muslims started pouring in!
When Muslims form more than five percent, downhill march starts.
Muslims are inventing problems in Myanmar, Thailand, Philippines, India and other places.
When they form more than 30 percent then it is Sudan, Somalia, Nigeria, Lebanon (few decades back)
In Muslim majority nations, they kill each other!
Better wake up before it is too late on inventions of problems by followers of Islamic cult!
how are they inventing problems?
these people in Myanmar/Burma are treated horribly - research the subject and learn about it
there are lots of Muslim countries where there are no problems with those of other religions - such as Albania, Niger, Malaysia, etc.
in other countries like indonesia, there are some isolated instances of problems, yes, but there are just as many instances of anti-muslim violence in the US. mosques have been burned here, etc.
as far as terrorist acts, if you look up the fbi's statistics, only a small fraction of the terrorist acts and attempted terrorist acts in the US in the past 10 years were by Muslims, though those are the ones that get the most press
rstoutness: Yours is a typical Muslim like explantion with full of lies, spins and excuses. You better research and look from all sides instead using one-way vision.
All I know is that after Muslims started pouring in the US (especially from Paki region) with all sorts of their Ramadan style soap operas, travel has become a torture. Most look at the other suspiciously.
Even in Malaysia with hardly sixty percent of Muslims, Islamic extremism funded by Sunni Saudi barbarians and beasts have increased manifold.
Indonesia was an exception. Even there Sunni Saudi barbarians and beasts have stoked Islamic extremism.
Here Sunni Saudi and co funding of their Salaffi and Wahhabi mosques and Paki providing foot soldiers are responsible for 80 percent of world problems.
How many mosques were there in the US about two decades back and how many are there now?
At the same time, why don't the Sunni Saudi barbarians and beasts permit non-Islamic religious places and scriptures?
What do the seventh century desert cave dwellers think of themselves?
unbelievable amount of ignorant comments on this post, no matter what you think of Islam and most of you have never read or cared to learn about Islam all your knowledge comes from your own stupid ignorant upbringing, full of hate and bigotry still you can not be so stupid that you do not see what is going in in Myanmar, a country that less than a year a go was considered to have the worst record in human rights, an absolute cleansing and killing of 800000 Muslims is going on and all that most of you civilized people are spreading is bigotry and hate, way to go you civilized bastards. that what come from western civilization, ya we need to follow your lead and learn from you. 1.5 billion Muslims and growing every day, the fastest growing religion in the world at this time, ever asked your self why, go and read a book you ignorant bastards.
jonathan, please explain what "lies, spins and excuses" are in my post
i mentioned some muslim countries off the top of my head. for albania, i see in wikipedia "There have been no reports of societal abuses or discrimination based on religious beliefs or practice."
for niger, i see "Niger has a history of good relations between the majority Muslim believers and the much smaller minority faiths. In 2008, the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Niamey Mgr Michel Cartatéguy was quoted in the press as saying that Niger is one of the "best examples" of cohabitation and cooperation between Christians and Muslim"
both are muslim majority countries. there are many other muslim countries where i haven't heard of any problems. yes there are some bad events in places like egypt, but keep in mind that there are millions of christians and thousands of churches there. you could compose a list of mosque burnings in the US (joplin missouri, toledo ohio,etc) but that doesn't mean there's widespread persecution
i don't know what you mean by ramadan style soap opera
rstoutness: Even 9/11 is explained away by some Muslims as Jewish conspiracy!
About Ramadan style soap opera have lots to it. Even if I give all truths and facts, you people with one-way vision won't accept. So let me limit myself on some points.
During Ramadan, most of the Muslims act as saints and give to charity and so on. They fast during day time and only to feast on butchered (here also stolen animals are preferred) meat!
At the same time, many Muslims blow up mosques, kidnap people for money, kidnap girls and women and rape them and murder them too!
Let me repeat. In Pakistan Sufis, love and dance Muslims mosques are blown up on Fridays and even hospitals are bombed.
History seen worse barbarians and beasts?
mooslims vs. the Buddhists, mooslims vs. the Christians, mooslims vs. the Jews, etc . The KKK and Hitler paled in comparison to the mooslims. The mooslims are the cockroaches of earth. mooslims are a cancer upon all the world and must be wiped out.
Bravo Buddhists! Keep up the good work!
so you support murder, rape, and ethnic cleansing?
rstoutness
You are referring to the normal operating procedure of the mooslims?
You are ignoring Hindus vs Muslims, Sunnis vs Shiites, Sufis, Ahmedias, Hazaras, Baloochs (as I am 100 percent infidel, I support these Muslim infidels too)!
It has become clash of religions: Sunni Muslims vs Rest.
unbelievable amount of ignorant comments on this post, no matter what you think of Islam and most of you have never read or cared to learn about Islam all your knowledge comes from your own stupid ignorant upbringing, full of hate and bigotry still you can not be so stupid that you do not see what is going in in Myanmar, a country that less than a year a go was considered to have the worst record in human rights, an absolute cleansing and killing of 800000 Muslims is going on and all that most of you civilized people are spreading is bigotry and hate, way to go you civilized bastards. that what come from western civilization, ya we need to follow your lead and learn from you. 1.5 billion Muslims and growing every day, the fastest growing religion in the world at this time, ever asked your self why, go and read a book you ignorant bastards.
rstoutness -- in answer to your question, 16.1! When it comes to Muslims? YES!
And, I am a Buddhist..... Payback is a bitch, isn't it?
To moe1969
Bastards? Full of hate, bigotry and ignorance. Yo ass-wipe, you just described all your 1.5 billion mooslim brothers.
Your prophet mohammad was nothing more than a cheap pedophile that led a bunch of ignorant losers. What's the average education level in your mooslim countries? 3rd grade ass-wipe. And don't forget, woman shouldn't be educated, and if they speak out, shoot them. Even if they are a 12 year old little girl. (and your idiots couldn't even get that right because she lived). And we are the idiots? I hope you are standing on ground zero with the rest of your 1.5 billion morons.
Now, go blow a camel.
Muslims involved in violence? Now that's rare.
Extremely rare for mooselimbs to be involved in violence. Never heard of it. I always though it was the religion of piece (of schit).
Good for them! Too bad other countries aren't willing to make a stand against Muslims.
I dont like violence, But people are sick of the muslums and there hate!!They claim to be a people of peace.Well I would love to see that day. But i doubt it will be in the near future, if any!!
Every nation that accepts Muslim immigrants ends up regretting the decision...
research the issue - they are not immigrants. they have lived there for hundreds of years. for political reasons they are considered outsiders in both bangladesh and myanmar. but that's where they are from - straddling 2 countries without any country of their own
rstoutness you are a piece of schit just like the mooselimbs. Stop trying to educate us about these crooked people. The world has had enough of them and what has happened here is a consequence of all that they have dished out to non-muslims so far over the course of hundreds of years and especially recently. So for heaven's sake do not try to educate us about scum.
There are many Rohingya refugees in many Muslim countries of South East Asia after they fled Myanmar (Burma) about 15 years ago. They were initially an economic refugees and the Western NGOs orchestrated their flight as racial one to "punish" the Junta then ruling Myanmar.
This latest incidents happened after Muslims raped and killed a native Burmese Buddhist girl. They left her naked body in the open to insult the infidels. This enraged the otherwise peaceful Buddhists.
The Rohingyas are actually Bangladeshis. They speak a dialect that is part of Bengali language. It is exactly like the Tamils in North Sri Lanka. At least those Tamils are proud of their roots and did fight for a homeland. But these Rohingyas claim to be natives of Myanmar. It is a lie. The physiognomy of the native Burmese is oriental. The Rohingyas do not fit into the typical Burmese. They are immigrants from Bangladesh.
There many Indian, Chinese, Thai immigrants in Myanmar but they are all assimilated and live peacefully in Myanmar. Only Rohingyas cause problems in Myanmar. The root cause is their religion. They are Muslims and they want special treatment for them and their religion. Myanmar by any length of imagination is not a Muslim country. It has never been ruled by Muslims. It is a Buddhist country with rich Buddhist culture.
Muslims want to interrupt that culture and want to insert Arabian desert traditions on a peace loving people. There is so much a society can tolerate. after being pushed into a corner, it will retaliate.
The solution is for Bangladesh to absorb them. After all what can 800,000 more souls mean to country that is 140 million. Moreover as Muslims proudly proclaim "Islam is the answer" can take care of them!
the rohingya have been living in that area for hundreds of years. they are not bengali. though they may speak a dialect of bengali, they are not considered bengali by other bengali people. they are considered outsiders by both bangladesh and myanmar. kind of similar to the kurds, in turkey, syria, and iraq, they straddle different countries without a country of their own
all international organizations agree they should be citizens of myanmar. research the issue a little more and you'll see
If they speak a dialect of bengali then they they are bangladeshi. rstoutness do not try to spin this in your favor of mooselimbs. If they are not considered bengali by other bengali people it is a bengali problem and not a Burmese problem. Do not ask us to research the issue. All mooselimbs including you need to be banished to Desertville and contained there because you guys contaminate the rest of the world.
rstoutness,
Don't even bring the Kurdistanis into this.
We lived with the Pro US Kurdistanis that are NOT Fundamentalist Islamic Believers, that just want to assimulate as citizens of either Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Iran;
they fought against the Fundamentalist Islamic Kurdistanis PKK, HPG, KGK and Ansar Al Islam (the Taliban, Al Quada that previously escaped us at Afghanistan October 2001) during 2001 Operation Viking Hammer.
At gudprsn:
Were you born in Burma or lived there for a certain period? After reading this article, what I'm thinking was exactly the same as what you have written here. I agree with you 100% because I was born, raised and educated there and belong to one of the ethnic Burmese. I know how ethnic Burmese are kind, helpful, peace-loving and tolerant towards other religions. Thanks for saying the truth.
david, i am not saying anything negative about the kurds. i am pointing out thats a similar demographic situation. they are considered outsiders in both states and don't have a state of their own
People are sick of the threat of attack from Muslims. They have no tolerance for a group who believe they are required by god to kill those who are not muslim. Those Muslim who are not actively engaged in violence against their neighbors are aiding and hiding those who are. It is becoming a situation where it is those who wish to live in peace at war against the Muslim community. It is sad that these people felt they had to remove an entire community because they could not continue to tolerate the constant threat. Muslim people who do not want to see this happen to Muslim communities around the globe had better step up and make some changes. People of their beliefs are quickly becoming pariahs among the worlds citizens and situations like this may become the norm. Peaceful people will fight if it is necessary when the threat to that peace must be dealt with in order to have security.
I'm tired of stupid posts such as yours, Wallace.
Yes, there is a great deal of violence occurring in the world, inspired by religious belief. But it is not all Muslims attacking non-Muslims.
IF you had read the article, or even the headline, you might have noticed that this was an unprovoked attack on Muslims by Buddhists.
You were not so caught up in your anti-Islamic paranoia, you might have noted stories of 10s of thousands of Muslims demonstrating against the Taliban in Pakistan last week, in response to the Taliban's brutal attack on a school girl.
Muslims are just people, and their religion is just a religion, no more dangerous or ridiculous than any of the other system of beliefs on the planet.
Yes. We all know how aggressive those Buddist are. I have no doubt it was an unprovoked attack. The current state of the Muslim world speaks for itself.
dman
you said to Wallace, "You were not so caught up in your anti-Islamic paranoia". Well dman look up the definition of paranoia. Here it is in case you can't look it up. "the baseless or excessive suspicion of the motives of others". Unless you have been living in a cave somewhere and do not have access to evil world events, you must have heard something about the virus known as islam. Do you need me to explain the word "baseless"?
There is a huge ongoing problem with evil muslims in the world. Everywhere you look they are causing problems for everyone who is not muslim and they are even killing their own. I am not saying all muslim people are evil. It is just that if you are not part of the solution....you are part of the problem. Understand? When are all the good muslims....you know, the over 1 Billion "good" muslims I keep hearing about, going to do something to exterminate the "bad" muslims. They certainly have the bad ones outnumbered, right?
"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who do nothing about it." Einstein.
I am well aware of the definition, seven. Actually, according to merriam-webster, there are two definitions of the word:
Neither uses the word "baseless". One can almost always find some basis to fear this ethnic group, or some particular religion. But the ideas expressed by you and Wallace, clearly fall under the heading of "excessive or irrational suspiciousness and distrustfulness" towards all Muslims.
The article clearly states that Muslims were being attacked because of their religion and ethnic identity. It makes no mention of this being retaliation for past violent acts by this particular Muslim community. Yet wallace jumps to the conclusion that these attacks were somehow justifiable, in a manner not unlike nazi rationalizations for the massacre of Jews more than half a century ago. You second him.
The ideas of wallace and yourself manifest the worst, and most destructive form of religious bigotry and paranoia.
When are all the good Rwandans going to stand up to the bad Rwandans, or all the good Mexicans going to stand up to the bad ones who run the drug cartels?
Are there not more good Mexicans than bad ones?
In the absence of the secure rule of law, where a committed terrorist group, or criminal organization, can target a young girl for wanting an education, or honest citizens for interfering with drug trafficking, there is little good people can do as individuals.
Wallace, I guess I can add the outrages of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia in the 1970s, to the apparently lengthy list of recent world history events of which you have no knowledge.
The Buddhist religion may not espouse violence, but Cambodia is definitely a Buddhist country, and it is a matter of historical record that between 1 and 2 million people were killed by their fellow, Buddhist countrymen during the reign of the Khmer Rouge . Those doing the killings may not have been inspired by the precepts of Buddhism, but they were certainly people who were raised under this non-aggressive religion, and the 1 to 2 million people were just as dead.
All people have the propensity to act violently towards others. Muslims are no different than adherents of any other religion in this respect.
BTW: The assuming of facts not in evidence, in this case the guilt you assign to the victims in this recent violence in Myanmar, is one of the hall marks of paranoid delusions, both under the diagnosed mental disease, and in the more common, garden variety, which your ideas manifest.
dman: You make some of the most stupid posts and still you personally attack others?
Do you have some mental problems?
You appear to be one of the biggest idiots (to be modest)!
dman: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/paranoia here you go if you need the word baseless in the definition of paranoia. It is a link to Dictionary.com.
BTW, you must be a politician. Whenever they are asked a question they cannot intelligently answer, or will not answer, what do they do? They ask a question. Just like you. With the side - stepping you perform you should be on "Dancing With The Stars!" So again, where are all the good muslims? Ah......Dearborn, Michigan? Yeah you know the good muslims who danced in the streets and celebrated when the WTC was attacked. Of course I might just be paranoid. NOT!
The virus known as islam should just be left alone, like all other viruses that have not been cured by logic and science. If you quarantine a virus and let it kill all of its hosts..........pretty soon.... no virus!! Just witness what is now going on in Iraq. The evil US is gone and since they don't have our soldiers to kill, they are killing each other. Fantastic!! Keep up the good work. Praise allah, moham and the taliban! A little hint for you guys in the taliban. Kill the little girls first, this way they won't be able to breed more little talabanians. Make sure to kill them before they are nine, you know, the legal age moham decided it was okay for them to have sex.
I did answer it, you just have not the wit to perceive the answer. I pointed out that the majority of Muslims, spread across multiple societies and countries, have no collective power to restrain terrorism in societies which lack the rule of law, just as the majority of people of Mexico, good and decent people as they may be, have not the power to restrain the power of drug cartels, who kill and brutalize at will.
So, I'll ask again, how is the situation of the world's Muslims different that that of citizens of Mexico?
Rather than a futile attempt at further reasoning with jonathan, wallace and yourself, I'll leave you with a song.
With apologies to Gilbert and Sullivan...
Half a nice day. Be sure to check under your bed and in the closet for Muslims before you go to sleep tonight.
Star Trek
The Iranian Ambassador to the UN had just finished giving a speech and walked out into the lobby area
of the convention center where he was introduced to one of our United States Marine General's.
They shook hands.
As they talked the Iranian said, "You know, I have just one question about what I have seen in America."
The General said, "Well, anything I can do to help."
The Iranian whispered, "My son watches this show called Star Trek and in it there is Chekhov who is Russian, Scotty who is Scottish, Uhura who is black, and Sulu who is Japanese, but there are no Muslims. My son is very upset and doesn't understand why there aren't any Iranians, Iraqis, Afghans, Egyptians, Palestinians, Saudis, Syrians, or Pakistanis on Star Trek."
The General laughed, leaned toward the Iranian ambassador, and whispered back, "That's because it takes place in the future."
Sad story, often repeated. People targeting other groups for racial, religious or ideological differences.
Never seems to stop.
The best way to stop is for you people to stop lies, giving spins and excuses for those Muslims' barbaric and beastly actions, which normal humans should not do or don't do!
You mean like the Chistian Hutus of Rwanda killing Christian Tutsi countrymen in the 1990s. Or like the Communist Khmer Rouge killing millions of their own Buddhist countrymen in the 1970s. Or would that be more like the Christian Nazis killing millions of Jews, Gypsies and other non-Aryan people during WWII.
Good thinking there, jonathan. The world is all one big "Ramadan style soap opera" to you, where only Muslims do bad things to others, and no Muslim can ever be considered a good person.
...but you don't see the parallels, do you, jonathan.
dman: Hitler learnt from the followers of Islamic cult.
Nazism is nothing compared to heroin addicted Islamic barbarians and beasts!
Why are Sunnis killing other sects' Muslims (Shiites, Sufis, Ahmedias, Hazaras, Kurds, and others) in Syria, Pakistan, Mali and other places?
Do you understand what is written in simple English?
Yes, and if you ever post something rational in plain English, I'll respond in kind.
Hitler did speak in admiration of the Islamic military tradition. But his animosity towards non-Aryans came from nothing but his own racist attitudes. This was not learned from the Muslims, or as you say it in "plain English", learnt.
It was not the Muslims who expelled the Jews from Spain. It was the Christians.
You obviously know nothing about the history of World War II if you can make such a statement, which does not surprise me. The death among Jews, Gypsies and other "non-Aryans" far exceeded anything which has occurred in recent fighting in the Middle East.
"heroin addicted Islamic barbarians and beasts". Are you frothing at the mouth when you type phrases such as this? Do you have some evidence of a high rate of heroin addiction among Sunni Muslims, or is your mind just playing tricks on you, again?
Pakistan is a predominantly Sunni country. Yes, people are killing each other there. Much of it is among Sunnis, themselves.
The Kurds are not a religious sect, but an ethnic and linguistic group. The majority of them are... Sunni Muslims!
Syria, in case you haven't noticed, is the midst of a civil war. The chief architect of the killing is the Alawite-dominated government, not the Sunni-Muslim majority.
My God, don't you ever get anything right, in any language, or at any time?
Even a broken clock is right two times a day.
I'm starting to think the world would be a better place without all religions. The many lives ruined and taken since recorded history is astonishing. Each should worship in his/her own mind with no outward appearance of any religious beliefs.
Bill it has always been about God and it always will be. No one can change that. Choose this day whom you will serve. Its all in the book, the Bible. You should start learning it because whether you believe it or not they are following it like it was a Hollywood script.
Why because it is out of their control.
Ephesians 6:12 "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against
the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual
forces of evil in the heavenly realms."
The sad part is you don't have a clue of what is really going on over there. The media is not to be trusted. What you do have is a pro Muslim media in the USA despite the fact that we are at war with them.
Ah, but somehow you know what is actually happening, half way around the world.
Tell us the truth, TheTwins60. We will all believe you.
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...
Does anyone who believes in a religion honestly think that God, Allah, ...whomever can be pleased with how we treat each other.....????!!!!
Well, to be honest here, China has a vested interest here, or so it seams. I say to the UN send in China to do something for a change.