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An Indonesian police officer stands guard at the door of the house of a suspected terrorist after a raid Saturday in Jakarta, Indonesia.
JAKARTA, Indonesia — Indonesia's anti-terror squad arrested 11 people suspected of planning a range of attacks on domestic and foreign targets including the U.S. Embassy and a site near the Australian Embassy, police said Saturday.
The suspects were arrested in raids Friday and Saturday in four provinces, national police spokesman Maj. Gen. Suhardi Alius said.
He said the suspects belonged to a new group called the Harakah Sunni for Indonesian Society, or HASMI.
"From evidence found at the scene, we believe that this group was well prepared for serious terror attacks," Alius said.
A U.S. State Department spokesperson told NBC News, "We have seen the reports, but cannot comment as this is an ongoing Indonesian security investigation."
Police seized a number of bombs, explosive materials, a bomb-making manual and ammunition, Alius said. They also found a 3-kilogram (6.6-pound) gas cylinder filled with highly explosive material, which had been assembled at a house in the East Java town of Madiun. Videos and images of attacks on Muslims in various parts of the world were also recovered, he said.
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Alius said the group planned to target the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta and a plaza near the Australian Embassy and the local office of U.S. mining giant Freeport-McMoRan. It also planned to attack the U.S. Consulate in Surabaya and the headquarters of a special police force in Central Java, he said.
It was unclear how far the plans had advanced.
Alius said police are still investigating whether the group has ties with established terrorist organizations such as Jemaah Islamiyah. An investigator who spoke in condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to provide information to the media said HASMI's apparent leader, Abu Hanifah, was a Jemaah Islamiyah sympathizer.
Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim-majority nation, has been battling terrorists since the 2002 bombings in Bali by militants linked to Jemaah Islamiyah which killed 202 people, mostly foreign tourists.
Subsequent attacks have claimed more than 50 people, mostly Indonesians. The government has arrested more than 700 suspected terrorists and killed dozens more in an attempt to root out militants.
Earlier this month, police warned of a terrorist threat in Bali targeting a ceremony commemorating the 10th anniversary of the bombings. The country's security alert was raised to its highest level.
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Last month, police arrested 10 Islamist militants and seized a dozen homemade bombs from a group suspected of planning suicide attacks against security forces and plotting to blow up the Parliament building. The alleged bomb maker turned himself in to police while wearing an empty suicide vest.
Recent terror attacks in the country have been carried out by individuals or small groups and have targeted security forces and local "infidels" instead of Westerners, with less deadly results. The arrests announced Saturday appear to be the first in recent years to involve a group that allegedly planned to target foreign facilities.
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Great job Indonesia on catching these terrorists!
Good on ya. Indonesia hasn't given up the fight... maybe they didn't get the memo
Crap. somebody release a video, so our State Department can have something to comment about
Already voted Jody. Maybe watch September Dawn, see what Mormons are like.
Ya, we'll be certain to vote for "Rape is God's Will." supporter Romney and his stooge "Rape is a form of Conception." Ryan so that Romney can put forth his Roe Vs. Wade attempt to over turn the law just so a bunch of telemarketers can make phone calls asking for our money just so Romney can say that he was instramental in creating jobs by creating the stir about overturning Roe Vs. Wade.
When Romney's over turning of Roe Vs.Wade is defeated his response will be "I took Roe vs. Wade out of context and support womens rights." just so he can have a political base to be elected from.
"Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim-majority nation, has been battling terrorists since the 2002 bombings in Bali by militants linked to Jemaah Islamiyah which killed 202 people, mostly foreign tourists."
Indonesia was an exception among Muslim nations. Most were tolerant before Sunni Saudi fundings and Paki foot soldiers steped in!
Thanks for running the story MSN....now where are these stories???
Waiting for MSN to post the story about Joe, Barry and Hillary at Navy Seal Wood's memorial
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/joe-biden-to-father-of-former-navy-seal-killed-in-benghazi-did-your-son-always-have-balls-the-size-of-cue-balls/
Joe Biden to Father of Former Navy SEAL Killed in Benghazi: ‘Did Your Son Always Have Balls the Size of Cue Balls?’
Since they wont post it....I WILL!!
DISGUSTING!!!
Hey Barry........the SEALS took down Bin Laden.....is THIS how you repay them????????????
The liberal media is NOT reporting this whatsoever!
MSN isnt reporting this either!!
$1.5B contract in Iraq for Biden's little brother exposes Obama ahead of debate
http://washingtonexaminer.com/1.5b-contract-in-iraq-for-bidens-little-brother-exposes-obama-ahead-of-debate/article/2511404#.UIu7eW_R4dW
Indonesia doesn't want the scum. They know thats all they are and bring no benefit to them.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/retired-lt-col-my-sources-say-obama-was-in-the-room-watching-benghazi-attack-happen/
Retired Lt. Col.: My Sources Say Obama Was in the Room Watching Benghazi Attack Happen
http://www.youtube.com/embed/agUx79yG1Lo?rel=0
This is how he repays Navy SEALS....and this is how THEY repay him!
In May, 2012, Tunisian cleric Mokhtar Jebali led a demonstration in Tunis at which thousands of Tunisian fanatics chanted "Obama, Obama, we are all Osama". During that speech, Jebali repeatedly referred to the United States President as "Obama the Ape".
In June, 2012, Mokhtar Jebali was again leading a demonstration in Tunis. This time he was ranting about an anti-Islamic video. The thing is that IT WAS A DIFFERENT VIDEO THAN THE ONE ULTIMATELY USED AS A PRETEXT FOR THE SUBSEQUENT SEPTEMBER 11 VIOLENCE. The video that Jebali was condemning at that rally was made by someone named Jalel Brick, and it may be that this video was ultimately unsuitable for Jebali's purposes because Jalel Brick does not have any connection to the United States.
If I could come up with the above information with a few key-strokes of my computer (as anybody else can, if really interested in these facts) why did the Obama administration persist with the insane Youtube video pretext for weeks? The only explanation is that the Youtube video explanation fits in with Obama's sadly distorted perception of reality. Information is coming out now that those Americans who perished in Benghazi had desperately requested support that could have saved their lives and instead they were ordered to "stand down". Obama now claims that he issued the order to support those individuals, yet this obviously was not done. Either there's a serious incompetence that prevented this presidential "order" from being carried out, or (much more likely) Obama is now lying about having issued such an order. Americans have a right to know about this terrible scandal within the Obama administration BEFORE the presidential election. The reason why no truthful answers are forthcoming from the Obama administration is because they know that if the truth were revealed, the majority of Americans would be utterly disgusted with Obama, just for the handling of this matter alone and for the Obama administration's shameful attempt to mislead the American people on this matter.
For the first few weeks following the Benghazi terrorist attack, the Obama administration confidently stated over and over and over that it was about a Youtube video. Consider the fact that the so-called "protest" against the video did not coincide with the appearance of this video. Not only had this particular ridiculously-produced video had been on Youtube for months prior to the fateful September 11 attack, if you really care to know, you may discover that at any given time there are myriad such videos on Youtube, and have been for years. Not only was the Youtube video "explanation" ridiculous, if you think about its use by both the Muslim radicals AND the Obama administration, you realize that this is a case of the Muslim terrorists having purposely searched Youtube for such a video PRIOR to their act of terror for the express purpose of catering to a bizarre psychological weakness that these terrorists shrewdly detect in the President of the United States. Furthermore, look into what it was that the mobs of "protestors" were shouting at American embassies throughout the Muslim Middle East on and following September 11, 2012. It wasn't about a Youtube video. They were shouting "Obama, Obama, we are all Osama".
The anti-American violence in the Muslim world is tragically facilitated by Obama's psychology. For whatever reason, Barack Obama feels an unnatural compulsion to protect Islam from perceived "insults". We saw this in his attempts to intercede on behalf of the planners of the so-called "Ground Zero Mosque" near the site of what was the World Trade Center, and we see it in the many comments he has made to the Islamic world and to Americans. Unfortunately, those Islamic leaders intent on harming us are smarter than we generally think they are, and they have shrewdly developed strategies to utilize Obama's emotional vulnerability for this purpose, thus they invented the Youtube video pretext specifically to appeal to Obama's vulnerability and Obama himself is unfortunately only too eager to be played in this manner. The denial of necessary security to the Benghazi compound is directly related to this "Obama Doctrine", which is intent on convincing the world that America trusts the good intentions of Islam. In the process of fulfilling his distortions of the intentions of Islamic leaders in places like Libya, Tunisia, Mali, Egypt, Obama is willing to blatantly lie to the American people about what really happened in Benghazi. This is a cover-up of frightening proportions.
There's no doubt in my mind that Obama is doing this because he has the good intentions of promoting one of the world's major religions (Islam) as benevolent. He himself is not a Muslim, but he has this psychological need. In the process of acting upon his "good intentions", his doctrine makes Americans vulnerable, and he mounts a bizarre cover-up to the September 11 Islamic celebratory attacks against Americans. We haven't seen even the tip of the iceberg on this. If the "Obama Doctrine" is successful, Iran could (God forbid) be celebrating future September 11's in an even bigger way.
1.2 deleted, Jody-1593626 beginning with:
Sure was - US election video. Banned, didn't rehab after this suspension. Don't derail, folks.
@ tyler
You guys read every single comment in every thread?
Where is the Benghazi story NBCNEWS??? Our Ambassador is dead along with 3 other Americans. WHY?? WHY WONT YOU RUN A STORY? COWARDS!! Just like the people in the Obama Administration who refused to send help when asked THREE(3) TIMES!! You are ALL LIBERAL/PROGRESSIVE COWARDS!!
I would rather be a liberal than in whatever crazed state of mind you are.... Holy cow......
Obviously Sam has not heard that he has been lied to and deceived by The President. Sam must not know that 4 Americans are dead because Obama decided to go to Vegas instead of be the POTUS. Sam has been missing a lot it seems. Must have only been reading the lying 'lame stream media'. Take off your blinders Sam and get outraged that the POTUS really thinks you're that stupid. Or I bet you still think it the video.
Maybe he is suffering from Romnesia, I here it's going around...don't worry the President says it a covered condition under Obamney Care...how funny is that, Obama greatest acomplishment was Romney's idea...that has to sting just a little
I wonder if Republicans sincerely believe that Fox News is not part of the media. Especially when is has the most viewers.
That's asking them to think way beyond their limited capacity. All they know is that they tune in there to find out what they should think.
Slodon -
I am a progressive and I call you on your coward statement. Ready, BOY!
I wonder if Democrats sincerely believe that using FOX News as the justification for their own journalistic malfaesance make them look any better
@Joe and the rest of you. Actually I do know. The story was covered weeks ago. Whether it was a terrorist attack or an angry mob, none of that pertains to this article. Any sane person will continue on their news rounds if they don't find the particular news they are looking for. The only people with blinders on here, are the ones who think Romney is an ok candidate choice... Im still not quite sure why republican's feel the need to to complain about a "liberal" news site. If you don't like what and how they report the news, go elsewhere. I don't go to McDonald's to tell the patrons they are not eating the best food....
But you also don't have McDonalds' customers telling you how much better their food is than yours...and Romney isn't my guy, or the guy sitting next to the guy...in fact, I don't think Romney has ever met the guy sitting next to the guy... but he certainly isn't the other guy, we know that guy, and we don't like that guy, we don't even like the guy sitting next to that guy
I'll bet the Romney supporters are writing about how Obama failed to stop this attack and how his planned cuts in defense made him rely on the Indonesian police... yeah, that's it. And by electing Mitt Romney he will have prevented this from happening...
Romney isn't going to stop terrorist attacks... but at least he admits that they are still happening (but it is Mitt, so that could change tommorow)
Yea, exactly, so maybe the republican's should stop coming here to complain and say how the news is "liberal" Go eat the fox new mcdonalds food if ya want. I'm not sure where the Liberal=Bad started, but boy has it sure took hold this year. Something bad happens, must be a liberal, but if people took 30 seconds to read on what liberalism actually is, and understand that it built this country, I think many would have a different view point. Here or the core foundations of Liberalism:
Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis)[1] is a political philosophy or worldview founded on the ideas of liberty and equality.[2] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally they support ideas such as free and fair elections, civil rights, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, free trade, and a right to life, liberty, and property.
I think that most people wrongly classify "Liberal" as some tree hugging, government supported, weed smoking, homeless man. When in fact, that's 100% incorrect. As you can see, Liberalism, is really just a view of freedom and given rights. Conservatism, is really just an offshoot of Liberalism. So instead of people complaining over Liberal/Conservative media, they should just complain about @!$%#ty news coverage. Which leads back to my main point, if you don't like the service, go elsewhere....
If the vast majority of you'all understood that you that being fed a load of crap, maybe we wouldn't need to point it out... If 2 + 2 doesn't equal 5, wouldn't you want to know it, even if it came from someone who thinks it equal 3?
that would be nice to live in a world where Liberals believed in Liberty for all and not just Liberty for them... and Equality is a beautiful word, until a Liberal says it, where it means that you are not allowed to succeed unless everybody else is succeeding Equally
@Sam-1938777
It is the whole point of a discussion site, like Newsvine...You come with your plate full of Crap, we come with our plate full of Crap...we sit down and pick trough it and find out what isn't crap...some days mine will be more crap, some days yours...but you can't sit down everyday refusing to admit sometimes yours is, and that ours always is... I do wish we could all learn to more civil in our Crap Sifting though, because these Crap throwing food fights, sate neither of our appetites
SHAME ON YOU MSNBC FOR BURYING THE STORY THAT TOOK PLACE IN BENGAZI. You chose instead to protect an inept president. I hope that Romney wallops BO on election day so we can watch Chris Matthews crap himself and maybe step out onto the ledge. No wonder you are losing viewers left and right.
I understand your viewpoint Phea. I think we can agree that we are both fed up with Dem/Rep comment fights. I know that Newsvine is a place for all people to come and have discussions. I respect all peoples view points, but what I don't need to read is the constant "nbcnews = liberal" bashing. Its just gets annoying and contributes ZERO to any discussion pertaining to the story at hand.
I understand that you understand... but there are people on this site that honestly believe that Maddow and Hannity have never uttered a falsity... that John Stewart and Rush Limbaugh are telling it like it is... and it does a great disservice to our nation, to have news outlets outright lying to the American People... How are we supposed to reach consensus and move forward, when both sides are being intentionally polarized by their preferred news sources...
(And maybe, in my dark secret places, that I dont like to mention...I like a good argument)
slodon...........Here you go. This actually made me sick to my stomach.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/331806/incredible-shrinking-president-mark-steyn#
Some of you people are born IDIOTS..the president of the USA doesn't have control of what happens all over the world..he gets daily briefing only. We pay our DOD, CIA, NSA and others to find out whats going on in this crazy world...there are hundreds of thousands of people involved to see these things don't happen in advance, but of course you can't watch everyone in the world all the time.
@ slodon
Here's your article
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2012/10/27/14748260-libyan-witnesses-recount-organized-benghazi-attack
The teatards must be incredibly disappointed that no Americans were killed. No corpses for them to make political hay with.
Thank you Indonesia for having our back.
In war on terror, Sunni Saudi seventh century barbarians and beasts and another bunch of high dosage Islamic heroin addicts, Pakis were "strategic allies"!
Against Saddam, Sunni Saudis & co, oil companies, extremist Jews and their lobbyists outsourced their dirty jobs to the US and allies. NATO forces got hurt most.
Sunni Saudis and co were saved.
Those ungrateful and backstabbing Sunni Saudis paid back by manipulating high oil prices up to $145. In the process, they became richer and started financing their version Salaffi, Wahhabi, al-Qaida, MB, Taliban and other Sunni Islamic haters and killers.
In return, US and allies went bankrupt!
Pakis took all help from the US and allies and backstabbed big time in Afghanistan. Half of NATO forces deaths are due to them.
These two ungrateful and backstabbing nations were invented by the British and kept alive in the map by the US and allies.
For their brand of Sunnis, US and West, Christianity and Jews are No. 1 enemy!
Time has come to hit back on both Sunni Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Declare them terrorist nations and wipe them out of map for world peace and economic stability.
Good thing Indonesia takes terrorism more seriously than this foolish obama administration
Owencoffin
I don't know which is dumber, your statement or your face
Actually the face is a true representation, its what Romney sees in the mirror, the clown on the inside is the same as the clown on the outside. Hideous
@Rich -
Rich, believe it or not, that isn't an actual picture of my face. I know, I know, you WANT it to be, but wishfull thinking just isn't gonna make it happen.
What that is Rich, is an (big new word on the way, brace yourself) AVATAR. You might want to look that one up.
The Religion of Peace out doing God's work again! Allah Akbar!
Anata wa taihen baka desu!
The anti-Obama crowd can no longer use the attack on the U.S. Embassy to say that Obama's foreign policies are a failure.
The Indonesian authorities caught a terrorist cell group trying to launch an attack against the embassy in Indonesia.
There is going to be a trend of terrorist attacks against U.S. Embassies because the terrorist forces are trying to pull the covert operatives and special forces protecting the embassies out into the open so they can take footage of them to then disseminate through their networks. Such a goal is aimed at locating informants helping anti-terrorist forces so that the terrorist forces can then launch their attacks against the governments that will not yield to the terrorists world view points.
Bin Laden may be gone...but his number two is still alive and until he is killed the terrorists will continue to launch their attacks.
Does anyone remember Black Hawk Down and Mogadishu?
Perhaps that was the reason why support was not sent into assist the embassy in Libya. Without complete intelligence on what hostile forces may be operating in and around the embassy the supporting units could have been drawn into an ambush by a much larger hostile force thus leading to excessive American and Libyian civilian causalities.
A larger force would then had to have been used to rescue the first support unit which could have resulted in even more terrorist elements ambushing the second unit.
During the Mogadishu event thousands surrounded the Ranger units that went in to rescue the downed helicopter pilots.
Luckily only twenty Rangers were killed in that action.
Don't down play the terrorists ability to mobilize effective fighting forces either as they have learned from Mogadishu as well.
The correct call was made in not sending in support units to extract the Americans from the embassy. Their loss although heartfelt can be said to be hopeful in that their loss possibly saved hundreds of American lives and thousands of civilian lives along with not creating a black eye for America that would further bolster terrorist elements to attack with greater ferver and tenacity.
Let loose the dogs of war! My opinion about what should have been done in Mogadishu. I would have given them 72 hours to evacuate city before it was destroyed. A populace without resources tends to collapse the support structure for terrorist's. That is how wars are won.
How to keep the embassy's safe is rather easy. Just do a search on U.S. embassy's worldwide and send spam messages into the areas around the embassy.
That's how you can help.
Put the bong down
So what is the next step?
Terima kasih kepada orang-orang dari Indonesia!
Saya ragu-ragu sesiapa ada membaca ini
When your leader doesn't lead , doesn't protect the citizens ....... its time to clean house " the White House ".
Like Bush protected us from 9/11?
Do you have any idea how stupid your comment is?
"When your leader doesn't lead".... you been watchin' too much Fox News, man. Consequently, you have no idea what you're talking about, no clue. Wake up and watch something else now and then.
Mike, what do you suggest we watch, MSNBC, CBS, ABC maybe ? Well if i thought any of them would tell us the truth anymore , i would. Don't any of you find it odd, that none of these news channels will tell you the whole truth about the Libya attack, or any other story, that makes Obama look bad. I know you all love Obama and all but how would you feel if he wasn't your man? The media is suppose to be telling us the whole story and, protecting the PEOPLE, from the government cover ups , not the other way around. Hitler had the media in his back pocket ,and we all know how that turned out. Now before you start calling me all kinds of names , i am a registered Independent have have voted for both parties , but this idea of the media protecting the government ,to me, is very scary, i have never witnessed it before ,in this magnitude, and i am 51 years old. I watch both Fox news and the other channels, just to make sure my opinions are not bias, I would advise everyone to do the same.
The one word "sunni" in this group's name gives you all the information you need to know they are a terrorist organization.
WOW.......must have been the video again.........GOOD THING THEY COULD CATCH THESE GUYS ' THRU THE FOG OF WAR'.....
This is better than what happened in Libya. At least they had better iformation.
In Liya there was a information vaccuum-andn one got the memo in time.
The Benghazi attack needs more reporting on because something fishy is going on.
Why did the administration blame the attack on the video?
Why did the consulate not have enough security?
Why was no help sent when they were under attack?
Those questions should be easy to answer, should they not?
They are, here's your answer
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2012/10/27/14748260-libyan-witnesses-recount-organized-benghazi-attack
@whatmatters - pertinent questions, to be sure.
But more importantly, what was Ambassador Stevens doing in an abandoned consulate, exposing himself and his minders to known peril?
Why do the right wingers just repeat what they just heard from their talking heads? Yes, Whatmatters, some of us progressives stay in tune to what your pundits say because it is fun to watch the puppets respond over the next couple days. Admit it, you had already forgotten about it until you just heard it again.
But here's your answers.
Actually the Obama administration didn't really blame the attack on the video, but at first thought it was probably tied to it. The current collection of evidence says that there is a lot of truth to that. Nobody was trying to hide anything or deny that it was a terrorist attack. The President stated so in successive days following the attack. Was it logical to think that it might be somehow linked to the uproar over the video? Only to people with logical minds. But when you get right down to it, does it change anything one way or the other? No. They are still dead.
Why wasn't there enough security? With the possible exception of the US embassy in Bagdad, no embassy has enough US forces to repel the attack of 120 well trained fanatics, many of whom are suicidal for their cause. Additionally, it was a consulate, not an embassy so the typical security force is small. Did you know to that when a Marine Securty Guard is assigned to an embassy, it really isn't about providing protecting for the US personnel? In fact, primary mission of the MSG is to provide security, particularly the protection of classified information and equipment vital to the national security of the United States at American diplomatic posts. Providing personnel protection is but a secondary role. Primary security is provided by the host country. It is the same everywhere and that applies to all countries. And even if we would have had 3 times as many security personnel as the largest request from consulate security personnel, the only difference would have been more dead Americans.
Why no help? Well actually an evacuation team was sent in. Their role is to get people out, not repel an attack. They were sent in by helicopter and were met with overwhelming aggression, two of these guys were killed. And it might be noteworthy too that we don't have a troops stationed in Libya. We are not occupiers nor are we providing any security or policing functions in the country. They sent in the evac team, there was no battle group to send in even if we had wanted to. Unless we have a military base with troops stationed there in the host country, it is no different anywhere else. Did you know that the Marine Guard at the Egyptian embassy that was breached by protesters, had no ammo? That is at the discretion of the Ambassador. In reality that may have been a good thing because we probably would have killed a bunch of Egyptian civilians. There are a lot of misconceptions about how security is handled at embassies and what the US security teams are responsible for. Emabssies are not military installations. Do you think we would allow hundreds of Russian or Iranian troops at their embassies in the US? Of course not, and we play those same rules we expect others to play when in our country.
Now if you hadn't been so busy watching Fox or Blaze TV and were reading and watching real news networks, you'd already know all this. But you have taken the word of some pundits telling you that none of this has been explained and the "mainstream media" has ignored the story. Simply not true.
Whatmatters: Good questions. What should have happened is air strike from carrier battle group, response time 1 hour. Gunships to clear area in minutes, extraction within 2 hours, Embassy is US territory. Contingent force left to repel and destroy further attackers. They were there for hours. If Libya wants a war with US; I say we take over.
You will soon (maybe) find out the "hush" is because an arms deal involving S-8 weapons was the center of the contraversy. The whitehouse, sec. of state and Gen. Petraeus ( betrayus) are all complicite.
bob,
And just who would we have conducted that strike against in the middle of the night in a city? Anything that moved on IR sensors? Why bother launching planes, just aim a bunch of cruise missiles at Benghazi and "get the job done"?
You've been watching too many movies or playing too many video games. But I suspect it really doesn't matter to you who we hit, as long as we got a couple thousand of "them" to even the score. I just hope that whatever you do in life it doesn't involve ever making decisions of any consequence.
NewDay: What did you not understand? Do you know what a Jet is? A10 Warthog old school perimeter clearing. Simple tactical maneuver you wouldn't grasp do to your missile and electronics mentality. The second part it doesn't matter who gets killed? I said secure compound counter strike if needed. What is it you believe I said? If you think I believe in stronger military strikes against radicals and their supporters? You would be right. Feel better? P.S. If the US continues with passivise attitude like yours against militant regimes we will be at war a long time.
Bob,
Be careful who's mentality you are questioning. I was being sarcastic when I stated "why bother launching planes." I won't argue that a Warthog is a pretty effective weapon for close in support as long as you have somebody on the ground calling in the strike. However that wasn't possible for one, and for another, A-10s weren't available. And if you think they could clearly identify their targets in the middle of the night in the middle of a city without huge collateral damage, you're dreaming. But we've already established that you don't give a flying F about collateral damage.
In fact what supposedly was considered was a carrier launched C-130 Spectre. Again, devistating firepower but needs the appropriate ground guidance. Same would apply for an FA-18 or any other carrier based jets. All this stuff might work if we were talking about US ground troop on a very specific mission with proper communication and targeting equipment. That wasn't the case. Best they could have done was shoot up the place in the vicinity of the burning buildings hoping not to take out the good guys.
The reality is that an evac team was sent in by chopper, that is how the survivors eventually got out, and it was two of those guys who ended up getting killed during that effort.
And might I ask, purely as a matter of interest, just which carrier in the fleet can hurl a C130 aloft?
C'mon conservatives,,, you were all over Obama for the Libya embassy incident. Now, here's one in which ground intelligence and cooperation with local authorities prevented a recurrence. The plot was discovered and foiled before it could launch. What to say about THAT? What? No PRAISE and CONGRATULATIONS to the Obama admin for heading it off??? Why, I can barely believe it! You have NOTHING TO SAY???
Maybe we should outsource our CIA and White House to Indonesia. lol
Since my first post was Collapsed by the Community.
Here it is again COWARDS!!
Where is the Benghazi story NBCNEWS??? Our Ambassador is dead along with 3 other Americans. WHY?? WHY WONT YOU RUN A STORY? COWARDS!! Just like the people in the Obama Administration who refused to send help when asked THREE(3) TIMES!! You are ALL LIBERAL/PROGRESSIVE COWARDS!!
Somewhat related is top Al- Quada leader in Dubai calling for attacks on west. Who is going to drone him, our policy states we will go into any country. Is that a fact? Dubai is harboring terrorist's and are a financial supplier of funds. That is a fact.
Time for US to do a soul searching why so many people want to do US harm.
It must have everything to do with her bias middle east policy and her propensity to wage war unilaterally.
The hell with the corrupt Republican corporates that took our jobs overseas!
Shut down ALL these USELESS EMBASSEYS and bring our people home! They don't want us over there, so let's take care of our colossal mess at home that the corrupt Republican corporate MONARCHY got us into!