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Teddy, a Lebanese university graduate, performs a belly dance at a nightclub in Beirut, in this November 2007 file picture.
BEIRUT, Lebanon – It is 2 a.m. in an abandoned theater in Hamra, a neighborhood in the Lebanese capital. Men pack the room, their fists pumping the air in time with the thumping music. A bare-chested dancer in tight-fitting shorts glides around the stage, reaching his hand around another man’s neck, pulling him close and stealing a kiss.
These parties are popular with those who can afford the $33 entrance fee. For those looking for an alternative, around a dozen different bars and clubs aimed at gay men dot the city.
Beirut has for decades been a haven for gay men and lesbians, luring people from throughout the region, including deeply conservative countries like Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Bahrain. But while the city’s image as an oasis of open-mindedness attracts foreigners - and sells newspapers - the liberal veneer disguises a conservative underbelly that recent police sweeps and reports of invasive “medical” tests have exposed.
Family ‘would not accept it’
Many gay men in Beirut carry on double lives despite living in what is considered to be the gay capital of the Middle East.
“I’m only out to my close friends,” said "Jad," 22, who asked that his real name not to be published. “My family is quite religious and would not accept it. When I was younger my mother made it clear that she would disown me if I came out to her.”
Indeed, while gay bars and clubs are common, homosexuality – or behavior deemed “contrary to nature” – is illegal according to article 534 of the Lebanese penal code.
Technically, this means that only those who have been proven to engage in such illegal acts are liable for arrest. In practice, “people have been arrested just because a particular security officer thinks that person might be gay,” human rights lawyer Nizar Saghieh said.
“Despite the façade of tolerance, the reality is that a negative stigma of homosexuality persists,” said Georges Azzi, co-founder of Helem, a non-profit group working on lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) issues.
The burden is heaviest for homosexual men who don’t have the right connections and cannot afford to pay off officials to avoid punishment.
“Unless you know your rights or know someone in a position of power to help you, you’re in trouble,” said Rebecca Saade, who works on LGBT rights with an underground group that focuses on lesbians and transsexuals.
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Lebanese demonstrators hold signs against "virginity tests" on women - and men suspected of homosexuality - during a protest in Beirut on August 11.
Gay men who cannot afford to live outside of the family home are more likely to engage in sexual acts in places where they could be caught.
An incident in July revealed the contradictory attitudes toward homosexuality in Lebanon. Leading local television station MTV released footage of several popular gay hangouts and police then raided two establishments and arrested patrons.
“I think the internal security forces felt pressured to act and arrested people in these theaters because they felt no one would pay any attention or care,” Helem’s Azzi said. “The theater was in a poor neighborhood and the customers are on the lowest rung of Lebanese society, many of them were non-Lebanese Arabs.”
A surprising watershed
While a raid in Lebanon’s second city Tripoli went relatively unnoticed, journalists jumped on reports of a one in the outskirts of Beirut after it emerged that dozens of men arrested had been subjected to physical tests.
The controversial procedure, which human rights lawyer Nizar Saghieh said has “no basis in science and is used as a tool of intimidation,” involves examining the anus for indications of sodomy.
The test has been standard for many years, according to human rights lawyer Saghieh, but was never before brought into the media spotlight. He estimates some 100 to 200 procedures take place every year.
Paradoxically, news that the men had been subjected to the invasive test jump-started a discussion on how homosexuals were treated in Lebanon. Until then, the debate had focused whether to grant equal rights to homosexuals and revoke article 534, said Saghieh.
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“But the debate was stagnant,” he added. “With the anal tests, the debate focused on a single aspect of how gays are treated and a lot of people, despite their view on article 534, felt the practice extreme.”
Indeed, the media was almost unanimous in condemning the practice following the revelations over the summer. Many referred to the practice as “tests of shame.” One major TV channel went so far as to call Lebanon a “Republic of Shame,” a term that gained traction across social networking sites.
Following the furor, the Justice Minister Shakib Qortbawi passed a decree calling for an end to the tests. Gay rights campaigners cheered the speedy policy change.
“It is probably the biggest success story in terms of gay rights in the Arab world,” Saghieh said.
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Saade agreed that the government’s decision was significant.
Still, it was just one victory in a long fight for equal rights in Lebanon, advocates said.
“We have come a long way in the past decade or so, but at this point I think revoking law 534 remains a dream,” Saade said.
Indeed, if you aren’t part of the wealthy and privileged Beirut elite, being gay in Lebanon can still prove treacherous.
"Mazen," a 23-year-old who asked for his real name not to be used, said he’s been encouraged by signs that many people are becoming more accepting in Beirut. But these changes are largely limited to the capital and have not reached his village in the south where homosexuality remains a major taboo.
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Like others in his position, he hides his sexual orientation from much of his family.
“I have told a few cousins who are of similar age but I would never come out to my mother. She would be heartbroken, ashamed and make sure it stayed within the family,” he said.
“If I came out to her, I think she would never speak to me again.”
Shane Farrell is an NBC News contributor and a reporter at NOW Lebanon.
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Sad... This is 2012 after all!
This article confuses the far right fundamentalists, who want to hate muslims for being muslims, but cheer for them for oppressing gays....decisions, decisions...
"I KISSED A MAN AND I LIKED IT"
So there! I'm a heterosexual don't discriminate against me.
Joking aside, homosexuals are human beings first and as long as it's relations between consenting adults who cares. Let them get married and adopt children, some of them would probably make excellent parents like Cam and Mitchell on "Modern Family".
Can't imagine what might be second or third.
Crappy dancers second, and over-dramatic third.
I disagree latekate. Gay men are generally good dancers, but I'm better.
Here's the order of it all; in order of best first worst last.
Black men- rhythm Kings
Black women- Smooth Operators
Me- Awesome Dancer
Straight chicks- "Do I Look Sexy?" Moves
Straight guys - Forget it.
I can only say after living in the ME for many years that homosexuality is prevalent in all the countries off the GCC and great MENA.
This is a good thing IMO.
Less breeding of couples meaning less babies. Less requirement for western governments to send benefits/aid to these nations. And perhaps a bonus of less terrorists.... just a thought
Fewer, fewer, fewer.
Sam: I didn't know the Bible said that. 6000 Huh? Noah was 900 years old, I guess Adam lived about that long, then they begat and begat so on and so forth. I think the Jewish calender is close to 6 thousand.
well, the bible itself doesn't explcitly say that...someone added all the years of all the people mentioned in the bible up to jesus and it was 4000, and its been 2000 years since then, hence some claim 6000 as the total.
Leave me out of it!
Direct decendant are we Adam?
Aren't we all? ;-)
All this hate in so many comments, so very typical.
Don't they have Chick-Fil-A Lick-Ins or some other socially acceptable activities?
As the Muslims kick the Christians out, Lebanon will become increasingly dangerous for gays, Christians, and women, just like the other Islamicized nations of N. Africa and the ME.
Only Israel will remain safe for gays, including the Palestinian gays who have fled there. Funny that our gays, so desperate to be part of the general population, with its hatred for Israel (Jews), don't recognize this and march FOR the only democratic, tolerant society in the ME.
gays and/or the general population hate isreal and jews? interesting claim. got some proof?
In London: http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/palestine-takes-center-stage-at-world-pride.html
In Seattle: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/draft-seattles-lgbt-commission-snubs-gay-leaders-from-israel-over-pinkwashing/
http://www.lagai.org/
And more in San Francisco, etc. All despite the murder of gays in Arab countries. So to what do you ascribe this lack of self-interest?
I see a couple of links to a few gays. Hardly anything to make a broadbrush statement as you did. Even the one article you posted said a 'SMALL group" lol.
Anyone who still posts "lol" is an idiot.
In that case, just let me say, "Laugh Out Loud".
better?
To..Bob"""
Just pointing out to those who say scientists have not found a gay gene so there isn't one ....end of story
That's just an opinion too
And like they say opinions are like noses ..every bodies got one..just some blow more than others
No it's fact.
Scientists have never found a gay gene. Not an opinion. If you can cite the scientist that found a gene which makes everyone who has it gay, with a news link, please do so.
To Chesty """"
In case you missed it ...post # 25
Funny how people claim homosexuality is a choice because they haven't found the gay gene...end of story
seems they can find a gene for everything else....no
Some Politics May Be Etched in the Genes
By BENEDICT CAREY
Published: June 21, 2005
Political scientists have long held that people's upbringing and experience determine their political views.
*****But on the basis of a new study, a team of political scientists is arguing that people's gut-level reaction to issues like the death penalty, taxes and abortion is strongly influenced by genetic inheritance. The new research builds on a series of studies that indicate that people's general approach to social issues - more conservative or more progressive - is influenced by genes.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/21/science/21gene.html?ex=1277006400&en=dde7d8feedd2f87f&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss
Genes contribute to religious inclination
16 March 2005
NewScientist.com news service
Maggie McKee
Genes may help determine how religious a person is, suggests a new study of US twins. And the effects of a religious upbringing may fade with time.Until about 25 years ago, scientists assumed that religious behaviour was simply the product of a person's socialisation - or "nurture". But more recent studies, including those on adult twins who were raised apart, suggest genes contribute about 40% of the variability in a person's religiousness
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7147
Boys with ‘warrior gene’ likely to join gangs
Aggressive trait also linked to violence, weapon use, new study finds
June 5, 2009
Boys who have a so-called "warrior gene" are more likely to join gangs and also more likely to be among the most violent members and to use weapons, a new study finds.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31128684/
Childhood Obesity Linked To Newly Discovered Genes
19 Jan 2009
Scientists studying the gene maps of thousands of Europeans found three new genetic variations that increase the risk for obesity and said that together with what we already know about genes and obesity the findings could help to develop tools that can predict which young children are at risk of becoming obese.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/135895.php
Happiness Gene Discovered In Women, Says New Study
By Emma Gray
08/30/2012
Money may not buy you happiness, but according to new research, genetics might be able to … if you’re a woman. A new study has isolated a gene that researchers believe is related to happiness in women. Unfortunately for the other half of the population, this doesn’t hold for men.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/30/happiness-gene-women-maoa-study_n_1844504.html
These are all studies saying "maybe". A guess, a hypothesis. And guesses about much less basic and central human characteristics than sexuality.
As opposed to claiming something is fact (people are born gay) without evidence and then basing an entire civil rights movement around it....you know, like our stupid, ridiculous Democratic Party.
Amunaka: No insult intended. I prefer using my own rationale on subjects without outside reference. I have opinions just like everybody else and bantering those can only increase my knowledge through others.
To..Chesty""
I rest my case ...thank you
Genectic research is in its infancy and is subject to broad interpretation relative to known variables. What is stated as fact today could change tomorrow.
So what?
Choice or genetics is irrelevant. It's about freedom and equal protection under the law. If and when gay marriage is argued before the Supreme Court, the issue of "choice vs genetics" will not be mentioned by the lawyers or the justices because it's irrelevant.
You can't discriminate against one group based on religiously defined "morality". It's a violation of the constitution.
If you let heterosexuals marry the person they "choose" or who they have a "genetically" predisposed attraction to, you have offer the same privilege to homosexuals.
...and before you say it, No one is allowed to marry children or animals...BUT if some state passes a law allowing heterosexuals to marry children or dogs, they have to let homosexuals marry children and dogs too.
Great Amun, I'll take that as agreement, thank you.
Sam....that's how queers have been trying to undermine the moral argument against homosexuality the last 20 years in case you didn't notice...that they're born that way, therefore it wouldn't be fair to call it wrong.
Now that we've ended that, we'll be rolling back civil unions, disallowing any teaching regarding homosexuality in schools (except outlining health dangers thereof)......and on to Vic-to-ry!
(The "equal protection under the law" doesn't apply because you invented a new right out of thin air based on nothing. Whereas you could logically get from white men marrying white, indian, asian, mexican women to white men marrying black women too, it's a whole revision of what marriage is to change it from men marrying women to men marrying men. Not applicable. And of course polygamy would have to be, if it were. Much easier legal jump from one man one woman to one man two women than one man one man.)
My work here is done. Later. Hope you guys learned a lot.
Wrong, Chesty.
There's no logical argument against gay marriage. Only religious (moral) ones. Unconstitutional.
My religion says it's fine. I'm not bound by YOUR religion.
If someone passes a law allowing plural heterosexual marriage, they have to allow plural homosexual marriage too.
If a state passes a law that say smart people can marry their alarm clocks, they have to let YOU marry YOUR alarm clock TOO.
See how it works?
Logic is a bitch, isn't it?
Chesty, why don't you provide a link which details the "straight gene?"
Morality is subjective, and not universally agreed upon by everyone, nor can it be legislated!
Obviously, you don't know much about law!
Indeed, but only to those who have no logic.
Scientists have never found a straight gene, either. Not an opinion. So when did you choose to be straight?
And all YOU have is an opinion that sexual orientation is a choice. YOU have no proof of that. As you demanded: "If you can cite the scientist that found a gene which makes everyone who has it straight, with a news link, please do so." I'll add "...or STFU, Chesty."
Too bad for you dumb bigots that the courts disagree with you -- which is why you are LOSING at every level.
Actually, we have, Chesty: we are constantly learning just how ignorant you are, since you keep providing us with so much evidence.
Better send all of ours over there to straighten things out. Only 3%.
nah, I think we should let all the warlike christians here go. They should volunteer in fact. You know, the ones who are always talking about wiping out the muslims. Although I suspect that just abot 100% of those who talk that way would wimp out when given a chance to "walk the walk".
Look at the picture in this article. Gays are what, exactly....all about naked, all about partying, all about drugs, all about insequential sexual encounters? Yeah...I think so.
absolutely, one picture proves it! lol. How silly.
I didn't see any drugs in the picture. The rest of it is none of your business.
Oh yes! Let's all take these atrocities to humankind and politicize them to meet our own personal beliefs. Let's all just join the Taliban and call it good.
(For those of you too narrow minded to get it... this was sarcasm.)
Man, you look hideous. Lol @ you defending yourself before God when you die and explaining this.
Hopefully you're an atheist, so there's no mental torture for you about this upcoming event.
Choosing to attack my appearance only shows how much of a true arrogant and ignorant person you really are. Keep it up so we can all watch you negate every word you say.
I want to see you explain your hatred to god, thru "jesus".... didn't he say to love everyone? sinner! sinner!
It's your optional appearance, how you choose to present yourself, so it's fair game.
You look disgusting. Man, this must bother you mentally a lot, whatever remains of the old normal guy in your brain. You'll probably be in the loony bin in a couple decades or living with severe mental problems, alone in an apartment somewhere...
chesty is an expert on loonies, being an obvious one himself. lol. He's a "legend in his own mind", an "expert" at everything he posts about. :)
Look, Vermont Gay.......I'd never done that clever spin on your name yet, although I saw others had, so I figured I would. It is pretty funny, no?
Quite the contrary; I found a happiness in my life I never knew possible. Why? You ask?... because I finally realized that if someone has a problem with me... it's their problem, not mine. I feel great; better than I have my whole life, and one negative closeted individual can never take that away from me.
Have a nice day.
Lol, the picture in the article. If only we had kept associating how gays actually look and what they actually do, with their phony civil rights movement, it never would have gotten off the ground.
Still some hay to be made in any gay ballot election, with footage/pictures of gays in opposition ads. And hay to be made against Democrat candidates by running pictures/gay parade footage in ads against him/her and then pointing out what pro-gay legislation they signed.
yeah, we wouldn't want equal rights for all here in the united states, land of freedom and liberty. that's crazy talk! :)
(why do you hate american values?)
We want to be equal but maintain virtue. A virtue-less America is worthless and not worth defending or worth anything at all. If we're not a good country, then there's no reason to keep it going.
So homosexuals, adulterers, child molesters shouldn't be called good or have their immoral behavior sanctioned or promoted.
Now, don't get me wrong...queers are free to marry the opposite sex, just like everybody else. We're that open-minded.
semper fi...ChestyPuller
ooorah
You don't get to define virtue for everyone else based on YOUR religion.
Unconstitutional. Sorry.
Liberty is tough on religious wing nuts, isn't it?
The truth is the backwards Lebanese have more morals on this one issue than the decadent West, and we're trying to lower them into the cesspool along with us. The Left isn't satisfied with being completely moral-less themselves, but they want to force everyone else to be as rotten as they are.
Wrong again... moral-less (I don't think that is even a word; but YOUR word anyway) is hating someone because they are not like yourself. Passing laws to restrict freedom is immoral. ESPECIALLY in a so called "SECULAR GOVERNMENT".
I am my own person, and no law you pass will EVER change that.
Chesty thinks he's the supreme judge on morality. lol. As if HIS view on morality is better than others. what an ego. :)
amoral.
Yes, tell all of us infidels how we should behave, Chesty. Maybe we should be flogged if we don't conform to your religion.
Chesty and his ilk are the kind we always find out about doing naughty things on the "down-low".
No, that (or worse) would be under Islam.
"Media" is a plural noun. (The singular form is "medium.") Your sentence should have read "The media were almost unanimous..." And you guys write FOR A LIVING?
just what we need, more muslim sodomites...remember Benghazi.
To judgec""""
Right wing blogesphere fodder and disinformation ...
didn't happen
I wish people that claim they know homosexuality is a choice ...please enlighten us on how and why they made the choice not to be homosexual ...
How old were you when you decided not to be gay ..was it a difficult decision..did you have family and friends support your decision ..
When I saw my first pair of cans. Next....
Choice or not is irrelevant. It's only "immoral" by religious definition. I'm free to be atheist and make my own moral choices as long as I harm no one else.
There is no logical argument against homosexuality, only religious ones. The taliban and the talibaptists are in lock step on this one.
I'm an atheist myself, but the main point in comparing Christian to Muslim attitudes toward homosexuality is that Christianity views homosexuality as a sin while Islam views it as a crime.
Fundamentlist Christians viewed it as a crime too, until the courts struck down anti-sodomy laws.
They didn't stop viewing it as a crime by choice, and if left up to them, it would still be a crime, as would mixing of the races.
Indeed they do. For awhile a few years back, there was a movement afoot, to turn our government into a Theocracy.
Can you imagine all the ruckus over what they would start to outlaw?
Has a homosexual ever been put to death in America after being convicted of sodomy? No. How many have even been convicted? Probably not many. How many have been imprisoned or otherwise punished? Fewer still if at all. I admit that this is not an area I know a lot about so if there have been convictions and punishments then I'd like to see that. thanks.
Are you referring to the "Moral Majority?" If not, what?
I can't give you numbers on real convictions for being gay. You could go back to the pre Stonewall riots in New York and figure it out. I know the cops were raiding gay bars and arresting people for being there.
But numbers on how many gays have been bludgeoned to death for sport is pretty accessible.
Christian "morality" depends entirely on which "Christian" you ask, doesn't it?
We could go back to the Sunday "Blue Laws", in fact I'm sure these are still around in some parts of the south.
How about making electricity illegal? There are some Christians in favor of that. Let's all replace our vehicles with horses and live by candlelight. Let's outlaw doctors. Jesus will heal us. Think how much we'll save on health care.
How about a mandatory 10% tithing law? How about a ban on eating meat on Friday, or a ban against women cutting their hair, or a criminal offense for women who expose their ankles?
Let's bring back the stocks and public dunking for "moral" crimes. Those were done by good, god-fearing Christians, weren't they?
Give me that old time religion!
I've heard about the Stonewall riots but don't know the details. There must have been arrests and harassment involved, probably jail too.
But that's a different topic, we're talking about law and legal sanctions. Killing someone for being gay is against the law too.
Seriously? Before 2003, you could be sentenced to two years in prison in Texas for sodomy.
Where WERE you in 2003? Watching a big purple dinosaur?
True, it is a different topic, I was just being a smarty pants.
But, consider this, if there are still laws on the books outlawing homosexuality, don't you think that might help people feel justified in gay bashing? Just a thought.
In an effort to play devil’s advocate, since we have admitted that America has laws against homosexuality on the books yet not many prosecutions, doesn’t that imply that Americans are just not as good as enforcing their as Muslims?
I'm not asking about how many "could" be sentenced, I'm asking about how many HAVE been sentenced.
I was living my own life. What are you referring to?
Most people stopped caring, and don't want the expensive constitutional fight that they know they will lose.
At the same time, in most of these conservative states, it would be political suicide to come out in favor of repeal, so they just let them lie on the books, unenforced, like old "spitting on the sidewalk" laws.
Correction: Some states in America have had laws against homosexuality (in the form of sodomy laws). There are a lot of arcane, archaic state laws covering all kinds of silly things. Most are never enforced.
Maybe there's simply not the radical zeal to do so?
Ok Adam, you got me, I know that most of the laws in America are controlled by the states and that none of the anti sodomy laws are federal, I was just making a generalisation, as I wasn’t attempting nor intended to be taken that serious.
That being said, I wonder what their take on American lax attitudes regarding the law would be?
Everybody must abide by Chesty's book of virtue. Because he alone is an authority on such matters.
If you love "freedom", but hate "civil rights", you might be a social conservative wingnut.
Ya Sam, how the heck does that work, loving freedom and hating civil rights?
Winguts believe they are entitled to have the freedom to oppress gays.
Adam asked, Are you referring to the "Moral Majority?" If not, what?
No not precisely. I remember a discussion on FARK about it and us googling the topic. There were a few organizations "grass roots" type that were working towards that goal.
Look up Dominionist Theology and Theocracy Watch.
Christian Exodus (google it) is a movement that promotes mass migration to South Carolina to take over the state and local governments:
Oh that one too. Geez I forgot all about those folks. I lost track of their progress. Wonder what they're up to these days.
Creepy.
Give me that old time religion!
Sam, you funny guy.
Margaret Atwood's, The Handmaids Tale. Yikes
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Look of course Beirut is an Oasis of Shame. You have all these gay men walking around with fecal matter on their rods. Are you people aware of the filthy desires and practices these men have? Just look through the ads they put up on Craigslist and the things they want to do. Glory holes, cum dumps, breeding each other, looking to have big orgies with no protection. They list desires like "use me" come by for a "blow and go". People, they fill glasses with semen from multiple men and they drink it. They insist that you be big and have not had sex for a while so that when they give you a blow job you will have more semen for them to swallow and they get off on this asking for nothing more than that you let them swallow your load by not wearing a condom. Oh and they are all drug and disease free. They all want the young men. Let me be your daddy etc. These are not people who were born with same sex attractions that they can't help and who just want to love and be loved and be accepted. These people want to engage in deviant, filthy behavior and they want to be accepted as normal. Well I am sorry. Hey are you forgetting what is on the bath tissue after you wipe off? And you are sticking your things in those filthy bacteria ridden holes and calling it normal. I have a question; when you walk into a public toilet and see that stuff left in the bowl by the person who did not flush does it turn you on? When someone farts in a room do you get stiff from excitement? You want to know what these people are doing? look up scat in the urban dictionary. These people are not looking for love. They for some reason believe that it will feel good to do these disgusting things and they are only looking to get off in a sick way. Watch them run around like idiots on Gay pride day and be honest with yourself on what they really want. They want casual sex with no strings and no protection and they want to do disgusting things and pass along diseases.
As opposed to the men who put their "rods" into women's anuses?
Why are YOU reading their Craigslist ads?
Again: you seem to know a lot about this....
Wonder why.
You have proven just how "sorry" you are.
Obviously you have never given a thought to what comes from a woman's vagina, either.
Possibly because you're so busy perusing those Craigslist ads.
Taking up the crusade are we Erin?
Yes, if disproving your ignorance and bigotry can be considered a "crusade".
Or the "crusade" to bring homphobes like you out of the closet.
Tim,
You seem to have an imagination that goes to the gutter and filth quiet well as I have seen many religious people do in the past. People make religious judgements based on their unlimited imagination towards the depravity of others when in fact the depravity comes from their own imagination. I would respectfully ask you if these absurd claims come from fact or the darkness of your own soul?
Lazarus
Tim from Lesbos
Lol Just read your first post, and almost laughed my head off, after all you do realise that all the sexually deviant acts you just listed are practiced by heterosexual couples as well as homosexuals right? Which considering that you didn’t mention those in your post leads me to question whether or not you’re opposed to those deviant acts themselves or just homosexuals engaging in those acts?
Do tell....Anal sex in general is physiologically and medically very risky for any group who engages in it on a regular basis. There are many ill effects, yet my favorite is the incompetent sphincter. Good Luck with that ladies.