23 die at Saudi Arabia wedding after celebratory gunfire downs electric cable

RIYADH -- Celebratory gunfire at a wedding party in eastern Saudi Arabia Tuesday night brought down an electric cable, killing 23 people, a local civil defense official said. 

"At the wedding, the cable fell on a metal door and the 23 people who died were all electrocuted," Eastern Province official Abdullah Khashman said by phone. 

However, the al-Jazeera news organization cited local media reports that some of the casualties died as a result of a fire caused by the downed cable. The local reports said the dead were women and children.

Shooting at weddings banned
A photograph of the aftermath of the accident, published on local newspapers' websites, showed a large courtyard strewn with fallen chairs and a pole in the middle supporting cables carrying lightbulbs. 

All those killed were from the same tribe, Khashman said. Thirty others were injured in the incident near Abqaiq, a center of the Saudi energy industry. 

Saudi Arabia banned the shooting of firearms at weddings, a popular tradition in tribal areas of the conservative Islamic kingdom, last month. 

Eastern Province governor Prince Mohammed bin Fahd ordered an investigation into the incident, the official Saudi Press Agency reported. 

Reuters contributed to this report.

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Darwin award win of the day.

  • 51 votes
#1 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:19 PM EDT

To people whom choose to celebrate this way around the world, I have a party favor for you. Here in the US we used to throw rice in celebration, but learned that it killed birds to do so- so now we thrown birdseed. You like to fire your weapons in the air in celebration, but learn that occasionally people die because of it. Therefore I am proposing that you contact me for all of your party needs. I will giftwrap, with the celebratory wrap of your choice 1,000 blank rounds (caliber of your choosing)! Prices will vary depending on the quantity and caliber you need. All of your neighbors will be amazed and jealous that you are using "Riconyets" party rounds! Call now!!

  • 9 votes
#1.1 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:38 PM EDT

Joe, your statement incorrectly implies Americans are more refined?

I think you need to get out a little more, go to Little Haiti in Miami, Compton in LA or Detroit on a holiday or a full moon night and just sit and listen to the gunfire. I probably would also wear a bulletproof helmet during your research!

  • 9 votes
#1.2 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:46 PM EDT

Who's the Darwin winner? The kids, the ones that died in the fire? Yeah, that's pretty rich. Very original too.

  • 9 votes
#1.3 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:16 PM EDT
Comment author avatardan42dayExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

That is a tragedy.

I feel so guilty for ROLLING ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING MY A$$ OFF!

  • 10 votes
#1.4 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

Some even celebrate by wearing their loudest vest.

  • 3 votes
#1.5 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:26 PM EDT

Their camels have higher IQ's

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  • 21 votes
#1.6 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:26 PM EDT

Thank you Spine Bob. Just check out that reality TV show I think it's called Redneck Weddings or something like that for some excellent examples of US refinement at weddings. Also, rice doesn't kill birds. It's a myth check out the snopes link for confirmation.

www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/birdrice.asp

  • 3 votes
#1.7 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:29 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJMJ-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Dead Muslim's not a problem here.

  • 13 votes
#1.8 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:41 PM EDT

These idiots that fire guns in the air never contemplate that bullets eventually come down at some point. eg. Here in the US new years eve is a time when this happens. Innocent people have died as a result.

  • 7 votes
#1.9 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:14 PM EDT

Spine Bob the gunfire in the areas you are speaking are because of the violence not celebrating a joyous occasion like a wedding -- I think that's the distinction Joe was making.

  • 1 vote
#1.10 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:59 PM EDT

Spine Bob, when was the last time you were in "Little Haiti in Miami"?

  • 3 votes
#1.11 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:06 PM EDT
Comment author avatarBaldmanExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

What's the difference between gunfire at a wedding and gunfire at a funeral?

Just because a tragedy happened here means they win a "Darwin award?"

Nothing is more infuriating than morons who don't understand what Darwin awards are, going about nominating people. Fools.

  • 1 vote
#1.12 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:06 PM EDT

Sounds like something that would happen in Texas.

  • 3 votes
#1.13 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:12 PM EDT

Dottie- It happens in celebration too. Holidays and Sports wins, etc. The difference though, is that even when people in the US do it they know they are breaking the law and do it in a sneakish way, and it's a lot less popular in the US than in third world countries.

In other countries there will be a group of people standing around and as soon as the camera is turned on they all break out the AKs and blast away.

Click the link to Al-Jazeera's story. The picture shows the wires right above their heads in a very obvious location. The flooring panels (over dirt) appear to be the metal temporary flooring the Army Engineers or Navy SeaBees use.

I have to say that the Darwin Award comment seems to hold true here. If you don't posses a basic understanding of electrical dangers you have no business blasting away with an AK or any firearm. I'll add that this is something that could happen in the US almost as easily.

  • 3 votes
#1.14 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:19 PM EDT

Funny thing is that I said "people whom choose to celebrate this way around the world" not "people other than in the more refined US". I thought of it as tactful marketing to the masses and yes I'm aware that there are some here in the US that celebrate this way. I think surfbum needs a bran muffin- his funny bone is clogged.

  • 2 votes
#1.15 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

RIYADH -- Celebratory gunfire at a wedding party in eastern Saudi Arabia Tuesday night brought down an electric cable, killing 23 people, a local civil defense official said.

Who knew they had Mexicans in Saudi? Things that make you go hmmmmm

  • 1 vote
#1.16 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:18 PM EDT

A clash between the ancient and the modern. Then people die.

    #1.17 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:21 PM EDT

    This does not qualify for a Darwin Award because this was idiot men killing innocent women and kids. The awards are for idiots killing themselves by doing something idiotic.

    • 2 votes
    #1.18 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:22 PM EDT

    I would agree Justme unless it was their own families that they killed. Then it's the men and their offspring so, by extension, etc...

    I understand- harsh and cruel. But sometimes the world and the rules of physics are just that. I don't make those rules, I just try to follow them.

    • 2 votes
    #1.19 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:02 PM EDT

    I wonder how they celebrated before they had guns ?

    I can just picture them rattling their swords to make noise.

    • 4 votes
    #1.20 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:43 PM EDT

    good muslims

    • 2 votes
    #1.21 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:54 PM EDT

    Funny thing is that I said "people whom choose to celebrate this way around the world"...

    Joe - try "who", not "whom". You made the same mistake twice.

      #1.22 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:03 PM EDT

      Just because a tragedy happened here means they win a "Darwin award?"

      Nothing is more infuriating than morons who don't understand what Darwin awards are, going about nominating people. Fools.

      It is funny that most of those claiming its a "Darwin Award" and taking glee at the tragedy of others also call themselves "Christian" and don't believe in Darwin's theory of evolution...

      They can't get the teachings of the bible correct, and they can't understand science... pretty much useless folks that can't contribute anything of substance or value, so they just mock the suffering of others... How very Christian.

      • 1 vote
      #1.23 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:03 PM EDT

      Arrell- Who said Christianity and Darwinian Evolution are mutually exclusive? Just because you believe Moses (a human) wrote what he thought was the story of creation doesn't mean he got it right.

      Do I believe the writings of Moses are the word of God? No. Am I a Christian? Yes.

      The bible, with the exception of direct quotes from God or Jesus (you know, the red text) is a collection of books written by man, inspired by God. If it is written by man, it is subject to all of the flaws of man, and we know these to be numerous. It's also been edited and interpreted by many, many parties over the last 2000 years. This doesn't mean it is not THE written source for all things Christian, and that it is the book Christians rely on for inspirational quotes and anecdotes,and that it is a guide for Christians. It's still the best collection of books ever written.

      I realize this will generate a lot of heat with some Christians, but many of them have confused their church and religion with true faith and God. It's ok, I forgive them.

      • 3 votes
      #1.24 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:01 PM EDT
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      Saudis are no dumber (or smarter) than Americans...but this is one of the dumbest traditions anywhere. When you fire straight into the air in a metropolitan area, don't the bullets fall somewhere?

      • 19 votes
      #2 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:19 PM EDT

      I beg to differ. Saudis are among the stupidest of people on the planet.

      • 30 votes
      #2.1 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:23 PM EDT
      Comment author avatarBig TesExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

      "Stupidist" isn't a word, Einstein.

      • 15 votes
      #2.2 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:26 PM EDT

      You're right, Big Tes. Stupidist is not a word. But stupidest is. It's the superlative form of the adjective stupid. And I suggest that if you are going to criticize someone, you should use correct spelling.

      • 31 votes
      #2.3 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:37 PM EDT

      Catzenjammer is actually spelled Katzenjammer!

      • 3 votes
      #2.4 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:59 PM EDT

      uncooked rice doesn't kill birds, utter hogwash.

      • 5 votes
      #2.5 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

      Oh dang! Anchorage smirks wins!

      • 3 votes
      #2.6 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

      Well, at least SOME Saudi Arabian residents are stupid, these Saudi citizens haven't yet learned that it's not too smart to use firearms as noise-makers. How do you say "...duh" in Arabic?

      Besides, in the Middle East (...anywhere in the Middle East), one might not be able to tell whether such noise signaled a celebration or an attack.

      • 5 votes
      #2.7 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

      Sometimes the bullet just goes into your heart killing you instantly. Case in point: the idiot in this video actually handed the loaded gun to a toddler - luckily that was his last stupid act. www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHnYjFd02Gg

      • 2 votes
      #2.8 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

      The Kids were Katzenjammers. I am Catzenjammer.

      • 3 votes
      #2.9 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:11 PM EDT

      I read the reason for all the gun fire was that they were servicing pork BBQ

      • 2 votes
      #2.11 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:40 PM EDT

      Stupidest is most certainly NOT a word. Did any of you actually pay attention in school? That must be the most stupid thing I've read all day. And guess what, we are on the internet, google it.

      • 2 votes
      #2.12 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:03 PM EDT

      I get it. We need to watch our spelling, throw birdseed at weddings, keep our firearms locked up and don't dance on a metal floor. My grandmother used to say "thats the most stupidest thing I ever heard of" and she was the most kindest, most sweetest woman I ever did know. And she always said, "my grandkids are the most smartest and best-est kids I ever did see". Nobody never never ever ever never gave a thought to correcting her. She has been dead for 50 years and we still love to remember how precious she was to us and remains precious to us.

      Everybody makes typos and EVERYBODY makes mistakes in their spelling of words and grammar.

      EVERYBODY!!!!!!

      • 3 votes
      #2.13 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:29 PM EDT

      Actually Ryan, stupidest is becoming accepted as a word in our ever-growing language. My computer's built-in Oxford dictionary includes it. Sorry dude. Also, stupidist is a word, referring to a believer in the school of philosophical thought known as stupidism which is believed to have been founded by someone named Bachmann in the upper Midwest. Believers adhere to the principle of weighing only some of the information about a topic, then choosing the path that is supported by the least data, if it fits their preconceived notions.

      • 2 votes
      #2.14 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:39 PM EDT
      • 3 votes
      #2.15 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:10 PM EDT
      Reply

      Nothing like Idiots shooting guns into the air! What goes up and all that! Happens on New Year around here, stupid people is stupid!

      • 7 votes
      Reply#3 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:20 PM EDT

      And these are the people to which we provide millions in support and than attempt to reason in good-faith that they will make sound decisions to the benefit of mankind. I'm not sure who is dumber.

        #3.1 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:11 PM EDT

        P.O.-1013287 - We do not provide millions in support to Saudi. They are rich rich rich. If you want to know who backs our loans with China . . . well . . . take a look

        • 2 votes
        #3.2 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:32 PM EDT
        Reply

        Finally a solution to middle east violence. Let them stupid themselves to death. If I recall my high school physics correctly the bullet comes back down with the same velocity it left the muzzle. It's only a matter of time...

        • 9 votes
        Reply#4 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:23 PM EDT

        You do not recall it correctly. It would come down at terminal velocity if fired directly up, or somewhere between muzzle velocity and terminal velocity if at an angle. But never the same as muzzle velocity.

        • 12 votes
        #4.1 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:37 PM EDT

        ... as long as the bullet didn't leave the muzzle going faster than the terminal velocity of a falling bullet.... which, if I had to guess was the case. :)

          #4.2 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:38 PM EDT

          Read your comment, had to comment on that. The muzzle velocity of a AK-47 is 2350 feet per second (fps). The BC (ballistic coefficient), or the projectile's ability to overcome the friction of air is about .5 (lousy). They did this on Myth Busters... took about 15 seconds to return. Anyway, no one knows exactly, but the bullet will go about 3/4 of a mile up, stop, and return to earth at about 400fps... enough to put out an eye, or leave a little knot on the head. Just brushing up a little.

          • 7 votes
          #4.3 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:43 PM EDT

          Rootfire

          Thanks, I just checked out that episode. It looks like the bullet is still considered lethal because it will actually fall faster than terminal velocity unless it is fired at precisely a 90 degree angle to the ground. Just like Tealcc stated.

          http://mythbustersresults.com/episode50

          • 2 votes
          #4.4 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:11 PM EDT

          Not true, terminal velocity on a falling bullet is about the same as a falling marble.

          • 2 votes
          #4.5 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:04 PM EDT

          Dont want a falling marble in my forehead either

          • 3 votes
          #4.6 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:04 PM EDT

          I agree. The United States needs to leave the Middle East and let them all kill each other. Why should the United States spend our childrens lives and our fortunes on a bunch of fools. OH, I forgot, Haliburton needs the work and Bush, Chaney wanted to take over the oil in Iraq. My bad.

            #4.7 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:25 PM EDT

            Muzzle velocity depends on the particular round. How much of which type/brand powder, and what size/style of bullet. Even what type/brand of primer. You can't make assumptions that this type of gun has a specific muzzle velocity. Read a reloading book.

            As for firing up into the air, that is just plain stupidity. Gravity may be just a theory, but it is one I believe in wholeheartedly.

              #4.8 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:22 PM EDT

              @!$%# muzzle velocity or terminal velocity, all we need to know is it is dangerous to shoot in the air.

              • 1 vote
              #4.9 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:28 PM EDT
              Reply

              Rule #3: Always know your target, and what's behind.

              • 6 votes
              Reply#5 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:25 PM EDT

              Leave it to the "Religion of Peace" to have shooting at a wedding.

              • 10 votes
              Reply#6 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:29 PM EDT

              So you're saying that Saudis are the rednecks of the Arab world?

              • 8 votes
              #6.1 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:57 PM EDT

              That is religion of piece of schit to be precise.

              • 2 votes
              #6.2 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:30 PM EDT
              Reply

              More guns, Darwin will eventually win!

              • 3 votes
              Reply#7 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:31 PM EDT

              Man...Conservatists and their guns. Human nature is the same not matter where you find it on the planet. Besides, they were breaking the law. Again, human nature. If you want people to do something, just tell them that they can't.

              • 3 votes
              Reply#8 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:31 PM EDT

              Whatsa conservatist?

              • 2 votes
              #8.1 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:05 PM EDT

              What does "not matter" mean?

              • 2 votes
              #8.2 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:31 PM EDT
              Reply

              We need more guns!

              • 1 vote
              Reply#9 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:37 PM EDT

              Weddings and gunfire... it goes together so naturally that it's hard to fathom a tragedy occurring.

              • 9 votes
              Reply#10 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:37 PM EDT

              Kind of like bringing your shotgun to the family Halloween party?

              • 2 votes
              #10.1 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:24 PM EDT
              Reply

              Guns don't kill people, improperly insulated metal doors sitting beneath live power lines do.

              • 13 votes
              Reply#11 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:37 PM EDT

              A wedding to remember......

              • 3 votes
              Reply#12 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:38 PM EDT

              They saw a female rapper on the second story.

              • 3 votes
              Reply#13 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:39 PM EDT

              Too bad it was a wedding instead of a battle. Then the groom could have gotten 72 virgins instead of just one.

              • 5 votes
              Reply#14 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:40 PM EDT

              LB-3426829

              .... If I recall my high school physics correctly the bullet comes back down with the same velocity it left the muzzle.

              Not really...the terminal velocity of a falling bullet is much smaller than the muzzle velocity - but it is still dangerous.

              http://goaskgrandpa.com/sample13.htm

              • 3 votes
              Reply#15 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:42 PM EDT
              Reply

              23 die at Saudi Arabia wedding after celebratory gunfire downs electric cable

              Wait... What? OK, I understand how this horrific turn of events happened. Wedding. Celebration. Probably all boozed up. BUT NO CABLE??!! THE HORROR!!! PLUS 23 DEAD!!

              Thee indeed considers being without cable for any length of time being cruel and unusual punishment, wedding gunfire or not.
              LET'S KEEP AN EYE ON THIS, PEE-PLE, SO IT SHANT HAPPEN AGAIN. Silly guns....

              • 1 vote
              Reply#16 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:42 PM EDT

              Thee Ox

              ..Probably all boozed up............

              Muslims don't drink. It had to be stupidity.

              • 2 votes
              #16.1 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:02 PM EDT

              They don't drink supposedly. They kill for sure even at a wedding party.

              • 2 votes
              #16.2 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:35 PM EDT
              Reply

              No words....(eye roll)

              • 1 vote
              Reply#17 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:45 PM EDT

              Actually, in America, we prefer to point our guns at each other... one at a time.... or two in the spur of the moment...

              • 2 votes
              Reply#18 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:45 PM EDT

              Alcohol consumption is shunned in Saudi culture, so you can't blame this stupidity on drunkenness. What, then, is their excuse? Why would anyone think that shooting into the air is ever a good idea, power lines above or not?

              • 3 votes
              Reply#19 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:46 PM EDT

              I've been to Saudi...trust me, there was booze.

              • 6 votes
              #19.1 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:41 PM EDT
              Reply

              It is Charles Darwin at work.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#20 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:46 PM EDT

              I think somebody could make a small fortune teaching these guys proper firearms safety. Maybe it would cut down on a tragic accidents like this too.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#21 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

              This is a wild ass story, anyway. WOW. DAAAAAaaaamn 23. I hope this is news on all channels in Saudi. If a person lost their keys in the sand, and they need a metal detector-- FAGET ABAUDDIT. No chance... (beep, bullet, beep, bullet, beep, bullet, beep, bullet, beep @!$%#IT.)

              • 1 vote
              Reply#22 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

              HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!

              Thanks NBCnews, this story really brightened up my day!

              • 1 vote
              Reply#23 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

              23 people dying makes your day?

              That's seriously sick. Seek help. Oh, wait, there is no help for sociopaths. Never mind.

              • 3 votes
              #23.1 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:00 PM EDT

              So "Because , we think all Arabs celebrate when Israelis are killed." it is OK then. What if you are wrong?

              What if all Arabs don't celebrate when Israelis are killed? Are you still right to celebrate the deaths of children? Sounds like you caught something from the Nazis. And then again even if all arabs celebrated the deaths of israelis, do two wrongs make a right?

              • 1 vote
              #23.3 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:35 PM EDT

              lol! lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala oh s#!t we just killed the whole party lol haaaaaaa! im gunna shot again lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala hussan tell ur wife to do that lalalalalalalalalalalalala shoot!!!

                #23.4 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:11 PM EDT

                @Spartan117

                There were exactly 117 posts, when I read yours. What do you think that means???

                Do you actually know the relevance of the number 117, or are you just a creepy Halo nerd?

                And yes, it is frikkin HILARIOUS when STUPID people kill themselves purposely doing STUPID things. We laugh at them because we know they were no longer fit for the natural selection gene pool, they just helped the process along by a generation.

                  #23.5 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:56 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  Stupid is as stupid does, they are thinning their own herd.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#24 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

                  Alcohol has been banned forever over there, but shooting off machine guns at weddings was legal until last month? Can you see it? A neighbor a few blocks away sitting at a cafe enjoying a cup of coffee and a bullet comes down just as he takes a sip and smashes the cup. Scalding the man where he sits, he gets up screaming in pain and knocks over the ak-47 he had leaned up against the wall next to him. The rifle hits the ground and goes off spinning in circles and ends up killing a bunch of people. Congrats to the married couple. That's a peaceful place to call home, sheesh.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#25 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

                  Guns don't work that way. The trigger needs to be squeezed. No squeeze, no boom boom

                    #25.1 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:11 PM EDT

                    dont forget the lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala part the woman do before they shoot lol

                    • 1 vote
                    #25.2 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:26 PM EDT

                    Just like on True Lies??? (hint, not everything you see on TV is real)

                      #25.3 - Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:47 PM EDT
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