@JP;

Iran needs to show their hands. When a police officer suspects you have a weapon and he asks to see your hands ,if you keep ignoring these demands then you could get shot. Iran is keeping their hands behind their back sir. They need to show the world what is going on at these installations.

We invaded Iraq to rid them of a despot that tieid to kill our president, this is an act of war sir. There was more to it than WMDs. Plans were also found for achieving nuclear capabilities.

Israel has threatened to annihilate every country in the Mideast even those with which it has never fought.

Really? Show me source of where Israel threatens to annihilate all their neigbors in the ME. I believe you are spewing false information sir.

Ha! so America is "the police" and Iran is a "criminal"? Americans are either brainwashed or willfully ignorant. How sad... Isreal is the world's biggest sponsor of terrorism. The US is a close second.

The lies can no longer be maintained... the Zionists have lost their propaganda campaign and people can now see the truth. Israel isn't a jewish nation but a Bankster nation that hides behind Judaism... which is a damn shame because I've never met a jew I didn't like... of course on the flip-side, I've never met a bankster that I did like.

@ anonymous;

Ha! so America is "the police" and Iran is a "criminal"?

I knew this was coming.lol I belive the I in IAEA, stands for international sir, they are the ones that want in. The Arab spring countries have begged our help, we helped them they were succcessful. Being "policeman" of the earth is really an unwanted title that we have gained because we are the strongest and most powerful, and help those , that can not help themselves.

because I've never met a jew I didn't like

This speaks volumes about you sir. You call others haters and terrorist, when you sir sound like you have much hate in your heart. I would find this a bit hypocritical.

Coral Taxi Iran needs to show their hands

Fine, cards up, where's Israel's? I support no nuclear weapons in that area then there would be no problem with who's got what and I need one too.

We invaded Iraq to rid them of a despot that tieid to kill our president

Iraq never tried to kill our president but we sure tried to kill theirs, and did. It was Saudi Arabia that furnished the money for 9-11. Iraq had nothing to do with it.

@dick;

Iraq never tried to kill our president but we sure tried to kill theirs

Clinton lobbed missiles at them a few times for it also.

At the request of Iraqi officials, Kuwait has just decided to free nine Iraqis who were imprisoned in that assassination plot. In April 1993, with the backing of the Iraqi Intelligence Service, the men had planned to kill former president George H.W. Bush during a visit to Kuwait, but the plot was foiled by Kuwaiti authorities. A couple of months later, President Bill Clinton launched cruise missiles against Iraq in retaliation, killing eight people. Ah, bi-partisanship.

You see I back up what I say, JP spews lies and haters just hate. He will show no source of Israel saying they want to annihilate other countries, and ones that have not even messed with them.lol

In late-April 1993, the United States learned that terrorists had attempted to assassinate Bush during his visit to Kuwait. ___— Some of the suspects reportedly confessed that the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS ) was behind the assassination attempt.

This wasn't Iraq, but some terrorist. I guess it depends on who's article you read.

JP

Israel has threatened to annihilate every country in the Mideast even those with which it has never fought.

If Israel wanted to annihilate their enemies, the ones who have attacked them continuously, they would have. Instead they conduct surgical attacks, targeting terrorists directly. Unfortunately, civilians close by, which is the terrorist plan, often die. Hamas attacked Israel today launching rockets at civilians and blowing up a jeep injuring 4 Israeli soldiers. If Israel wanted to get rid of Hamas and the Palestinians, they could nuke them, but they won't. Israel respects life. Yes they kill terrorists who target their own civilians and soldiers, but they do respect life. Islamists believe they get to heaven IF they kill infidels and Jews. Read the Koran or Haditha.

Anonymous Economist

Ha! so America is "the police" and Iran is a "criminal"? Americans are either brainwashed or willfully ignorant. How sad... Isreal is the world's biggest sponsor of terrorism. The US is a close second.

Either you are an Islamist terrorist or you are just looking for entertainment on this vine by inciting people. There is no way that you are American and that delusional.

Dick

Iraq never tried to kill our president but we sure tried to kill theirs, and did. It was Saudi Arabia that furnished the money for 9-11. Iraq had nothing to do with it.

There are half truths here. Saddam was behind the attempt on Bush Sr. Ironic since Bush was a status quo guy. He pushed back Saddam and left. Bush Jr was the protagonist, he finished the job. I think Saddam targeted the wrong Bush. (I once pee'd in the wrong bush but that is another story)

Saudi Arabia did not furnish the money for 911. But a majority of the terrorists were Saudi. But in the Middle East, terrorists come from many places, and don't necessarily represent their country as the geopolitical boundaries were simply drawn up by the British. al Zawahri is Egyptian. So what. He was arrested in Egypt. Tribalism is stronger than Nationalism in the Middle East. Terrorists can act with just a handful of people, they don't need nations. Iran is one of the last true sponsors of terrorism, through Hamas and Hezbollah.

@Coral Taxi

I agree with you on most of your posts that seemed Democratic to me, but I disagree with your opinion here and also your facts.

Iran's nuclear program is under ongoing monitoring by the IAEA, which includes periodic visits by IAEA inspectors to key nuclear facilities. The monitoring regime involves an extensive system of remote monitoring, including cameras, and remotely monitored locks on stores of radioactive material. All radioactive material is carefully measured and accounted for by the IAEA, and as a result of this extensive inspection routine, the IAEA continues to report that Iran has not diverted any nuclear material for non-permissible purposes.

What you may have been mislead by is the issue of IAEA inspectors having access to facilities that the Iranians have not declared to be part of their nuclear program (specifically, the Parchin military base), which some in the Israeli government / lobby have charged are being used for clandestine nuclear research.

Here's the facts:
Iran is not legally required to allow inspectors access to those sites, because Iran's parliament never agreed to ratify the so-called "Additional Protocols" that would have obligated Iran to do so. The fact is that Iran is a sovereign country, just like America is. And just like our Congress refused to ratify the Kyoto Protocols, Iran's Parliament didn't ratify the Additional Protocols ... so Iran is not obligated or bound to follow the terms of them.

you're a moron!!!!

You sound like one intelligent imbecile! Obviously a republican which voted for Smitt Robme....

@ Anonymous Economist

Can you say failed Foreign Policy? It will be a darn shame when Iran lights up the sky with the very warheads they say they didn't have. I guess then we will find out how "contained" they truly were not, but at what price?

Consider the January 29, 2012 "Israel vs. Iran" article in the New York Times were it was noted that, "The Iranian regime will be several times more dangerous if it has a nuclear device in its hands...one that it could bring to the United States. It is not for nothing that it (i.e., Iran) is establishing bases for itself in Latin America and creating links with drug dealers on the US-Mexican border. This is happening in order to smuggle ordnance into the United States for the carrying out of terror attacks. Imagine this regime getting nuclear weapons to the US-Mexican border..."

Israel, or should I say, Netanyahu, put all their chips on Romney and lost. So, here we are. Eric Cantor will have to make nice with Israel's next leader if Netanyahu gets voted out in Israel's January of 2013 elections--which is a strong possibility. Eric Cantor is flirting with treason, however. He pre-empted Hillary Clinton's Israeli talks in 2011. In doing so, he undermined President Obama. Democrats should go after Cantor's Virginia district and get him voted out. He is bad garbage for America and he is bad garbage for world peace.

Outlaw:

Argumentum ad hominem is the logical fallacy of attempting to undermine a speaker's argument by attacking the speaker instead of addressing the argument. The mere presence of a personal attack does not indicate ad hominem: the attack must be used for the purpose of undermining the argument, or otherwise the logical fallacy isn't there. It is not a logical fallacy to attack someone; the fallacy comes from assuming that a personal attack is also necessarily an attack on that person's arguments.

Drop the World Dirty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3iLbsKWOKg

@lilirocks;

Iran's nuclear program is under ongoing monitoring by the IAEA, which includes periodic visits by IAEA inspectors to key nuclear facilities

They are not allowing the IAEA into these installations("key nuclear facilities") . This is where the problem lies. How can you sit here and tell me different ? If it were different they would not be in a position where they are going to be attacked in the near future.

We will attack sooner than later. This article will enlighten you as to why.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/26/world/middleeast/iran-said-to-complete-nuclear-enrichment-plant.html?ref=nuclearprogram

so Iran is not obligated or bound to follow the terms of them.

Obligated or not, they better show us their hands, or we will destroy everything they have built over the last 20yrs that we even think has anything to do with nuclear weapons. We are not against a nuclear Iran, we are against a nuclear armed Iran.

My hopes are they will relent for the sake of all our men and women in that region, and their families here at home. The reality is that confrontation may be unavoidable. Imagine though waking up to the news that Tel Aviv, or Jerusalem has been reduced to ashes. This is unimaginable, and a horrific scenario.

I agree with you on most of your posts that seemed Democratic to me

This is not about politics with me, it is about saving lives .

@Coral Taxi

"They are not allowing the IAEA into these installations("key nuclear facilities") . This is where the problem lies. How can you sit here and tell me different ?"

You're obviously refusing to understand the content of my comment. They are not allowing the IAEA into installations that were never AGREED to. This is why the IAEA and Iranians will have a new meeting on the subject next month. No this is not politics, it is about understanding Democracy.

BTW Coral Taxi,

No, we the U.S, will not Attack Iran.

The BS you're providing is just like the WMD for which we attack Iraq. I do understand your interest if you're Israeli (or Jew) but will never happen again, sorry. (Unless if when you say WE you're referring to Israel attacking Iran.)

@lili;

You're obviously refusing to understand the content of my comment.

I understand what you are saying. I am saying it is a moot point. The U.N says they are obligated to show us this site.

Amano said "activities" that had taken place at the Parchin facility - a
reference to suspected clean-up work there - would have an "adverse impact" on
the IAEA's investigation, if and when it was allowed to go there. Iran has so
far refused access.

You see they are hiding their hands from us. If there was nothing to hide then the IAEA

The BS you're providing is just like the WMD for which we attack Iraq

The experts keep me informed.

No, we the U.S, will not Attack Iran.

Since 2010, the US has been quietly building giant air force and naval bases on Socotra with facilities for submarines, intelligence command centers and take-off pads for flying stealth drones, as part of a linked chain of strategic US military facilities in the Indian Ocean and Persian Gulf.

The Socotra facilities are so secret that they are never mentioned in any catalogue listing US military facilities in this part of the world, which include Jebel Ali and Al Dahfra in the United Arab Emirates; Arifjan in Kuwait; and Al Udeid in Qatar – all within short flying distances from Iran.

Do not kid yourself lili, many here on the vine have been told about this buildup on Socotra by me before it even became news, over a year ago. I use it when people say we do not have Israelis back or Obama is soft on Iran. We are ready at this moment to attack mam.

In this case what we do not know could hurt us. Show us your hands Iran.

The diplomats demanded anonymity Saturday because they were not authorized to divulge the cancellation ahead of the formal announcement, AP reported.

However, last Monday, The Guardian newspaper of London reported that Israeli and Iranian officials were taking part in two days of talks at a nuclear non-proliferation meeting in Brussels. One participant called the European Union Non-Proliferation Consortium as "respectful and positive," the Guardian reported.

Hmmmm, and the U.S. representative was, more than likely: Valerie Jarrett, White House Senior adviser and apparently someone who knows all about foreign affairs matters, now replacing Mrs. Clinton who is muddling the decision on when to submit her resignation paper which she promised earlier this year if Mr. Obama was re-elected.

Next it will be Mr. Ed Schultz, or someone on "The View", going to North Korea as a "peace envoy".

I am somewhat surprised to see Israel involved in this as they are not a signatory to the Nuclear non-Proliferation Treaty to start with. Also, although Israel has never admitted to having nuclear weapons, it is pretty well accepted that they do have a fairly significant arsenal. I doubt that they would ever agree to give them up as these weapons are about the only thing that keeps them from being attacked on all sides by fanatic Muslims who want to see Israel destroyed. As for Iran, there is little doubt in most people's minds that they are working on nuclear weapons. The IAEA has repeatedly said that they feel this is the case and the IAEA is in no way controlled by the US. There are some very clear indications that Iran is working on nuclear weapons. The first is their refusal to allow the IAEA unfettered access to all of their facilities. There are a number of facilities that they deny the IAEA any access to such as Parchin. There are also many facilities where Iran demands advanced notice of inspections. This is to allow them to play a shell game and move prohibited materials out of the site ahead of the inspections. Yet another indication of what they are up to is their continued enrichment of uranium beyond the 3-5% needed to power civilian reactors. They continue to enrich large quantities to a 20% enrichment level. They claim that this is being done to power a medical research reactor. The only problem is that they already have enough 20% enriched uranium to power many of these types of reactors and yet are only planning on building one. The only other reason to stockpile 20% enriched uranium is that this is the precursor to feed into advanced centrifuges to manufacture weapons grade material. Add to this the fact that they have been installing a large number of advanced centrifuges in their highly protected Fordo facility and their intent becomes pretty clear. They are setting things up so that they can rapidly produce large quantities of weapons grade material once they have a working bomb. Anyone with a brain can put together this logic and see exactly what the Iranians are up to. There has even been some indication in satellite photos that they may be in the process of preparing a location for an underground test. I do not know how far Iran is from a working weapon, but I would guess it is no more than a couple of years. They have continually stalled with promises of talks but the outcome is always the same. They delay and delay the talks and then when they finally take place the Iranians will basically agree to change nothing about their program. Every time the threat of military action to stop them becomes more heated they start making overtures towards new talks. Once things calm down they pull out and refuse to make changes. It is only a matter of time before we either take military action to stop them or they end up detonating a nuclear bomb. Time is rapidly running out and Iran needs to be given a hard deadline to take positive action to modify their program or face the use of force to stop them. This indeterminate timetable and constant talking is getting us no where and allowing the Iranians time to complete their activities. They really do not care about the sanctions because the leadership is not effected by them. They have convinced their people that their suffering under these sanctions is necessary so that they can defeat the "great satan" and the "zionists" and far too many of the people have bought into this propaganda. Once they have a working bomb there will be little we can do. I do not like the idea of us getting into another war, but it is past time for Obama to grow a pair and do something other than talk for a change. Otherwise things may get very grim in the Middle East.

@ JS in Sd;

Ya know I am with ya most of the time JS as now, but please use paragraph seperation, makes for much easier read and points are understood easier.

I am somewhat surprised to see Israel involved in this as they are not a signatory to the Nuclear non-Proliferation Treaty to start with.

Maybe so but they are a target.

even if Iran gets a nuclear capability ..how would they be a threat to the continental USA .. and how would they use that capability in the middle east with out suffering annihilation .. any country with the know how also knows their future is doomed if they use that knowledge ... Irans nuclear power is just another fear tactict used by the right wing war mongers and hate merchants to scare us into another war for profit like Iraq

Israel needs them, for without nukes, the "brotherhood" will descend upon them by the millions with Obamas blessing.

And because Israel has them and is an expansionist country is why Iran needs them! Sort of reminds me of the cold war. Russia has them because America has them, Russia built more because America built more. Israel can't protect itself if the "brotherhood" invades them with or without nuclear weapons. They will always rely on America's money, weapons and American people that have to die for Israel. This is how it was since Obama was in grade school, get a grip with reality.

@independentjim;

Irans nuclear power is just another fear tactict used by the right wing war mongers and hate merchants to scare us into another war for profit like Iraq

No sir, the fear comes from the unkown, not the "right wing war mongers" lol. Do you not get this? This is about accountability sir, not hate.

Israel can't protect itself if the "brotherhood" invades them with or without nuclear weapons.

Israel is preparing for war as we speak. They are clearing out their bomb shelters and transforming them from storage and other uses back to their original pourpose. The MBH is a movement, they are not going to invade anyone,lol, and they are in several different countries including America. Israel can hold its own against any counry in the ME, possibly two at a time. They defeated three at one time quite awhile ago. Today they are much more powerful than ever.

Why is the original conversation lost?

What is wrong with having a nuke-free middle east? The idea that Israel needs nukes to protect itself against its Arab neighbors is just as valid as Iran saying it needs nuclear weapons to protect itself against the US and Israel.

Let's get rid of the nukes first. We can talk about the consequences of nuke-free ME when we get there.

No country can invade Israel and Israel cannot invade any country either.

Remember the last confrontation between Israel and Hezbollah? Israeli forces were not able to push them back let alone defeat.

It is time for Israel to recognize the fact that a nuke-free ME makes sense and it is goof for the entire world.

In addition, it is Israel who is in violation of more security council resolutions than any other nation on face of the earth.

Iran is not in violation IAEA, it is the IAEA changing its criteria from day to day.

First it was "we (the US) will talk to Iran only if it verifiably destroys all its nuclear work". Does that make sense? What are we going to be talking about?

I think the IAEA is doing a good job if it is not manipulated by the superpowers. The UN inspections were doing a good job in Iraq too but we didn't want to believe them. We wanted blood and we got it.

@anwar;

In addition, it is Israel who is in violation of more security council resolutions than any other nation on face of the earth.

Really? I did not know this could you share a couple. I understand they are thought to have nukes, other than that what resolutions are they in violation of.

@ ANWAR;

Iran is not in violation IAEA, it is the IAEA changing its criteria from day to day

How do you know this? This is from 9/12.

The French government on Friday accused Iran of a
"serious violation" of United Nations Security Council resolutions and
IAEA rules after it was revealed Iran was in the process of building a
second uranium enrichment plant.
"We see a new serious violation of UN Security Council and IAEA
resolutions, " Foreign Ministry deputy spokeswoman Christine Fages said at
a briefing.
"This reinforces our suspicions," the official added.
France has become more and more vocal in recent months in saying it
believes Iran is devoting serious efforts to building a nuclear weapon and
is enriching uranium for this purpose.
France further argues that the rhythm of uranium enrichment, even that
currently in place, is not consistent with a civil nuclear energy program
only.

Countries do not just lightly accuse without good cause. If you wish to keep the blinders on then I can not help you. The world is concerned not just the U.S and Israel.

Some of the posters here are either from Israel, or just American Jews. I'm not against any ethnic group or Religion and my only allegiance is with the U.S., which is my country.

I agree with abiding by International "mandates" like the IAEA, the NP treaty and all but... Do some of you guys resurfacing the International Mandates here, acknowledge the fact that the Israelis have been laughing at those for decades? Do you know that at the present time, they are ignoring a mandate to stop settlements on Palestine territory? Do you know that this is a major factor for a peace treaty and the main AMERICAN concern? Israel doesn't even participate in the NP or any other International atomic organization that even the U.S. is part of.

I honestly don't mind, because I would support Israel's effort against an Ahmadinejad regime any time. But I think you, Israelis and supporters, should use your hypocrisy in a more subtle manner and not so boldly. OOHH, they should abide by mandates but we shouldn't because.......

On another topic, what is being said here about Iran "nuking" Israel, is the equivalent of NY nuking NJ and then feeling safe.
(No, I'm not talking about retaliation, folks) I'm saying that the "nuking" is not "heat and fire" like some folks still believe at this time. You need to have an elemental knowledge of physics to understand how the Atomic power works. I don't think Ahmadinejad is as lunatic as he wants to appear.

@Coral Taxi

We can go back and forth on a never ending discussion that won't solve anything and I don't spend the time that some of you do here.

A few months ago I left some comments on these pages as well as blogs on my social networks’ pages predicting the win of Obama and the reasons why. It was just kind of "I told you so" kinda thing. I did the same with many other topics in the past.

So far I've never been wrong on my predictions and I tell you that the U.S. is not attacking Iran, but you're entitled to your opinion. As always, only time will tell us.

One fact is that Iran is due for presidential elections this coming June and it seems that the majority dislike Ahmadinejad. He wants to be the dominant power in the Middle East. He's a clown and a joker but he's not crazy enough to use atomic weapons and most of his population knows it.

The situation in the region is that if Iran gets an atomic weapon, Saudi Arabia has already said it will follow immediately after. And they don't need much time to enrich. Some others will follow later.

Though Iran is a member of the IAEA, Israel is not and they already have Atomic weapons. This fact makes Israel the only non-member, nuclear weapons country in the world with the exception of North Korea, which was a member but withdrew.

I don't think Netanyahu is willing to wait till June and see what happens and not because of fear, but for political reasons.

@ JJ;

We are talking about Irans nuclear ambitions not about Israeli settlements. I have defended Palestine on these issues before. I quit defending them when they came back together with Hamas. I understand Israel does not play by its own rules sometimes. There are many complications on ownership,what Israel wants to cede from military gains. The PLO siding with Hamas set many things back.

@ jj, lili;

He's a clown and a joker but he's not crazy enough to use atomic weapons and most of his population knows it.

One fact is that Iran is due for presidential elections this coming June and it seems that the majority dislike Ahmadinejad.

@jj lil;

He's a clown and a joker but he's not crazy enough to use atomic weapons and most of his population knows it.

One fact is that Iran is due for presidential elections this coming June and it seems that the majority dislike Ahmadinejad.

Sorry I forgot to save.lol mY point about your post that new elections are coming is that it does not matter. The Ayatollah has the final say on all issues. The president just runs day to day business of the country.

The chairman of Iran’s Joint Chiefs of Staff says the decision over whether Tehran would block the strategic Strait of Hormuz, the passageway through which a fifth of the world’s oil flows, rests in the hands of the country’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei

You see herein lies the danger. Iran has no checks and balances. We truly do not want a nuclear armed Iran where the final say rests with a religous leader, especially one that despises Israel and the U.S.

Too much power for one man, very dangerous.

Hmmmm, maybe the United Nations is going to bring the "World's Small Arms Treaty" up for another vote. Seems Ambassador Rice delayed her YEA vote until she had counsel on whether or not the "Treaty" would be in direct conflict with our CONSTITUTION (now that would not take a rocket scientist to determine).

I am so sure the U.N. members will vote on the following treaties also:

• Law of the Sea Treaty
• World Cigarette Tax Treaty
• World Internet Tax Treaty
• World Financial Tax Treaty

mimi ..Israel will not take part in any talks that allow any nation includeing the USA access to their military ..why should Iran

ha! yeah, bullies are only bullies to protect themselves... they pick on their neighbors because if they didn't the neighbors would come after them.

where do people come up with this stuff? how are so many people fooled by the Zionist lies?

Why would ANYONE sign a treaty with another party who were KNOWN as liars, cheats, and thieves. The one thing that Ronald Reagan got dead right was, "Trust but VERIFY."

Then Israel shouldn't be stupid enough to believe that they should be the only one in the ME to have them.

That's why Iran wants the bomb. So the next time Iran is attacked, they can guarantee it will be national suicide for Israel. That should instantly make Israel's highest priority to prevent anyone from attacking Iran. The MAD doctrine kept the peace during the Cold War. It can work in the Middle East too. But it can only work if both sides have the bomb.

JohnCarter: Israel has had the bomb for over 40 years and has not used it or threatened its neighbors with annihilation, unlike Iran. You're argument is, therefore, specious - MAD is not an issue because Israel has already proven it can manage its stockpiles responsibly. And considering the murderous Muslim genocidal covenant against the Jews. I would not give Iran the opportunity to prove the same.

The desire of the Muslims to commit Jewish genocide has existed since the days of Allah and did not start with the onset of the Arab-Israeli conflict. With regards to imposing Sharia law, they make no distinction between lands originally Muslim and lands that they conquered by force. They are also not in favor of "peaceful solutions," and prefer to kill or be killed. They believe that the Jews started the French Revolution and the first and second world wars and their views on Jews and financial institutions are comparable to the Nazis. They claim freedom of all religions under Islam though go on to say that "Israel, Judaism and Jews challenge Islam and the Moslem people" and that "Peace and quiet would not be possible except under the wing of Islam.

The Covenant

of the

Islamic Resistance Movement

18 August 1988

Article Six:

The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine, for under the wing of Islam followers of all religions can coexist in security and safety where their lives, possessions and rights are concerned. In the absence of Islam, strife will be rife, oppression spreads, evil prevails and schisms and wars will break out.

The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).

Article Eleven:

The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab, possess the right to do that. Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated for Moslem generations until Judgement Day. This being so, who could claim to have the right to represent Moslem generations till Judgement Day? This is the law governing the land of Palestine in the Islamic Sharia (law) and the same goes for any land the Moslems have conquered by force, because during the times of (Islamic) conquests, the Moslems consecrated these lands to Moslem generations till the Day of Judgement.

Article Thirteen:

Initiatives, and so-called peacefulsolutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of Palestine is abuse directed against part of religion. Nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its religion. Its members have been fed on that. For the sake of hoisting the banner of Allah over their homeland they fight. "Allah will be prominent, but most people do not know."

Article Fifteen:

"I swear by the holder of Mohammed's soul that I would like to invade and be killed for the sake of Allah, then invade and be killed, and then invade again and be killed." (As related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).

Article Twenty-Two:

For a long time, the enemies have been planning, skillfully and with precision, for the achievement of what they have attained. They took into consideration the causes affecting the current of events. They strived to amass great and substantive material wealth which they devoted to the realisation of their dream. With their money, they took control of the world media, news agencies, the press, publishing houses, broadcasting stations, and others. With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the world with the purpose of achieving their interests and reaping the fruit therein. They were behind the French Revolution, the Communist revolution and most of the revolutions we heard and hear about, here and there. With their money they formed secret societies, such as Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, the Lions and others in different parts of the world for the purpose of sabotaging societies and achieving Zionist interests. With their money they were able to control imperialistic countries and instigate them to colonize many countries in order to enable them to exploit their resources and spread corruption there.

You may speak as much as you want about regional and world wars. They were behind World War I, when they were able to destroy the Islamic Caliphate, making financial gains and controlling resources. They obtained the Balfour Declaration, formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains by trading in armaments, and paved the way for the establishment of their state. It was they who instigated the replacement of the League of Nations with the United Nations and the Security Council to enable them to rule the world through them. There is no war going on anywhere, without having their finger in it.

Article Twenty-Eight:

Israel, Judaism and Jews challenge Islam and the Moslem people. "May the cowards never sleep."

Article Thirty-One:

The Islamic Resistance Movement is a humanistic movement. It takes care of human rights and is guided by Islamic tolerance when dealing with the followers of other religions. It does not antagonize anyone of them except if it is antagonized by it or stands in its way to hamper its moves and waste its efforts.

Under the wing of Islam, it is possible for the followers of the three religions - Islam, Christianity and Judaism - to coexist in peace and quiet with each other. Peace and quiet would not be possible except under the wing of Islam. Past and present history are the best witness to that."

Look up: "Avalon Project: Hamas Covenant 1988," Yale University School of Law for more information.

A dube anyone?

Finally a good response to a ridiculous rant by JP. As a famous philosopher said, "you can't fix stupid".

"Idiot for watching this stupid show" I do believe what you were trying to say was "a doobie anyone?" But then again, I guess it just goes to show what is really important to you, because it seems as if it was definitely not a proper education. However Steve said it the best, As a famous philosopher once said, "you can't fix stupid"

If you haven't already smoked a dube, you should.

Is Israel an apatheid state?

Another brainwashed shill explaining how genocide is necessary to protect America... "end 2 wars" in the same sense that Bush had his "mission accomplished" photo-op. the war's over, we just pay private contractors to kill the natives now and the military men just serve as "consultants"

How can anyone with knowledge of the US's prior military engagements of the last sixty years believe anything our DoD, CIA, FBI, or UN organizations say at face value let alone cheer for more of the bloodshed? Attack around Christmas? Ignorant, knuckle-dragging zombies like yourself are the scourge of humanity and no better than the worst of the foreigners you wish death upon.

No matter who is in office we will do what we need to do, to stop Iran from becoming nuclear armed. Bashing Obama for this is ignorant, if there ever was an issue they(both sides) will agree on this is one. America is war weary,and with good reason. This is the only reason we have not moved in yet. Public sentiment will not be the deciding factor for much longer. You can take that to the bank. I believe we will attack around Christamas time if Iran has not bent, which I hope they will at the midnight hour.

I agree, though I really doubt anything will happen as quickly as you're predicting. The time is coming though where Obama - or the CIA director or somebody - is going to sit down with Qassam Sulleiman and spell out that nuclear weapons will mean the end of the Khomeini regime and the end of Iran as we know it. Despite what the nutjobs on either side of the aisle are saying this day is coming. No leader in the entire civilized world is going to tolerate a nuclear Iran. Just no way that would ever happen.

He will be as warmonger until he stops talking of war with Iran.

Ahhh....comon.....there's no money in that..... :)

It's amazing how well some people manage to describe themselves in their screen name.

Hanson,

you are delusional!! Romney made NO such statement. Get off the left wing wacko sites....

Its not genocide, its a war on TERROR, moron. Please seek help for your conspiracy theories, FAST!!

Gary~ When in the world did he say that? Please provide links to back that statement up because so far the only thing I can find where Romney said he would declare war, is him saying he would declare war against Satan during his campaign in Salt Lake City. Romney can sign anything he wants that doesn't mean that as President he is the only one who gets to say we are at war with someone, the President is nothing more then a puppet on a string with very limited power of his own.

the Israelis have consistently denied they ever had nukes.

Wrong. They freely admit it. Where did you get that little tidbit from, some goatherd's kid with a suicide vest?

You are remarkably stupid...Israel has long been suspected of testing and developing nuclear weapons but has never admitted it. Jesus Christ, god, do a little research...you'd think god would know this stuff...

You're wrong too, RTC, talk about being stupid!

Your word is worthless... let's see some proof.

If I may, and this is only one tidbit of information:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Israel

Israel maintains a policy known as "nuclear ambiguity" (also known as "nuclear opacity").^[10][11]Israel has never officially admitted to having nuclear weapons, instead repeating over the years that it would not be the first country to "introduce" nuclear weapons to the Middle East, leaving ambiguity as to whether it means it will not create, will not disclose, will not make first use of the weapons or possibly some other interpretation of the phrase.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons#Other_states_believed_to_possess_nuclear_weapons

Israel is not a party to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Israel engages in strategic ambiguity, saying it would not be the first country to "introduce" nuclear weapons into the region, but refusing to otherwise confirm or deny a nuclear weapons program or arsenal

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/patrick-pexton-what-about-israels-nuclear-weapons/2012/08/31/390e486a-f389-11e1-a612-3cfc842a6d89_story.html

First, Israel refuses to acknowledge publicly that it has nuclear weapons.

Basically, we pretty much figure that they have Nukes, but they still have yet to admit to it. Of course if you have something to suggest otherwise then please, provide the links. :D

Israel does not have to deny or admit anything. They never signed the treaty, so they don't have to abide by it.

Besides, if Islamic states stop threatening Israel, they wont have any reason to care if Israel has nukes.

Yeah...what she said.....

While I doubt that an "affair" was his reason for resigning, I doubt a war man of his sorts wouldn't want to be around for any new theatre like that....lol

And all you insanes who constantly appear to support an apartheid, illegal weapons of mass killing country like Israel are so obviously wrong to any thinking individual. Israel, the cluster bombing country, who uses terrorism against the Palestinians, who have no air force, no real weapons, and are forced to behave like frightened animals.

Anyone who buys the Israeli propaganda is welcome to it. I don't, and never will. When Israel becomes a peace loving nation, which it isn't, gives up its mass killing weapons, gives the Palestinians their freedom and rights of statehood, or else, eventually Palestine will form anyway, then you can talk about something.

Israel took over a country by killing the men, women and children, and burning them and their animals evidently; if that is your claim to a "godly" country, no wonder you have the insane supporters that appear on these website, excusing any and every brutal act.

I continue to support a world with mutual respect for all, not "dominating" by supposed "godly" religions, which aren't "godly" at all, but hypocritical bullies.

stopbs,

Do stop bs, you have managed to create a whole post of that.

Palestine is welcome to form any time, just as long as they don't shoot at Israel, which you and them seem to consider the fundamental right that they can not live without.

Yes, and with Odumbo still in, our foreign policy will only suck more. Hell, we don't have any! The Middle East will only heat up, we sink to third World country status and move to austerity. We never were free from England. The Bank of England with ties to Israel is still the "bank". The U.S. is the military arm of England. It's been that way for a long time. And the bottom line is Romney or Obama, we'll get there the same way. Obama just gets us there faster, that's all. There was a little hope with Romney, that's gone.

Our country is doomed. The real powers-at-be want the U.S. sunk. They have succeeded. It's only a matter of time now. We're broke beyond belief. And people think Obama will fix this? WTF?! He doesn't understand anything and easy to see.

LOL!

So your round-about argument for voting along racial lines is to appease racists in the ME?

WTF would you have done if Herman Cain had won the nom?

And I'm sure you think he's muslim too? Shows your maturity....

Ah, Tibi001, you have some interesting (sic) observations. First, the reason why Rome fell was they lost their basic focus: the Roman Matron would tell her son/solider either come home with it or on it. Sexual orientation did not "cause" the Empire to fall. Cesar was known as "every man's best wife" ie bisexual. Rome fell when it Incorporated huge hordes of foreign troops to guard it and provided bread and circus for the populace. It looks like neither party has a plan for the majority of the population of this country to live a life of largess.

With many native Arabs and Jews darker than Obama , they would not get your point. And then , you must have loved the brilliance of Bush having Condoleezza Rice as SSecretary of State. Do you look in the mirror and say, gee , can I be any more asinine?

Israel never signed the no-nukes treaty, so they can have nukes.

Iran did sign the treaty, where they promised to get by without nukes, so they can't.

If Iran needs nukes, they can pull out of the treaty then then they can have nukes.

Get it now?