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Subscribe to RSSDUBAI - Iran launched large-scale air defense drills in the country's eastern half on Monday, Iranian media reported, amid heightened tensions between Tehran and Washington over a military incident in the Gulf reported last week.
The "Velayat-4" maneuvers being held this week will span a massive stretch in Iran's northeast, east, and southeast regions - about half its total land mass. The area is not far from its borders with Afghanistan, Pakistan and Turkmenistan, where there are large concentrations of U.S. troops.
The week-long maneuvers will include about 8,000 troops, drawn both from Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and its regular military, several media outlets said.
"Various kinds of fixed, mobile, and tactical long-range radars, and fixed, tactical and airborne electronic surveillance systems will participate in this exercise," said Farzad Esmaili, who heads Iran's air defense headquarters, according to state news agency IRNA.
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The exercise will also test Iran's bombers, refueling planes, and unmanned aircraft, Esmaili said.
The Iranian Students' News Agency (ISNA) said on Monday that F-4, F-5, F-7, and F-14 fighters will participate in the exercise.
Missile and artillery systems will also be tested, Shahrokh Shahram, spokesman for the drills, told IRNA on Sunday, and the drills will focus on improving coordination between Iran's military and the Revolutionary Guards, a powerful domestic and international actor separate from the regular military.
Last week, the U.S. Pentagon said Iranian warplanes opened fire on an unarmed U.S. drone over international waters on November 1.
Iran said it had repelled an aircraft violating its airspace.
Iran fired on a U.S. drone during its classified surveillance mission on Nov. 1, but the Pentagon did not disclose the incident until Nov. 8 -- perhaps giving warning to Iran that the U.S. could respond militarily, and that Iran's nuclear program will be a high priority for President Obama. NBC's Richard Engel reports.
The incident underlined the risk of escalation in tensions between the United States and Iran in an ongoing dispute over Tehran's nuclear program.
Although the Iranian air drills come just days after the Pentagon's announcement, the exercises appear to have been planned well in advance. In September, Esmaili told ISNA that Iran was planning a large-scale air defense drill in the coming months.
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On Sunday, Revolutionary Guards commander Amir Ali Hajizadeh said Iran believed the U.S. drone was gathering intelligence on oil tankers off its shores, according to the Mehr news agency.
Mohammad Ali Jafari, commander of the Guards, said his forces had acted well in repelling the drone.
"Iran's air defense systems and [Revolutionary Guard] fighter jets did their job and forced the aircraft out of Iran's skies," Jafari said on Sunday, according to Iran's English-language Press TV. "If such intrusions take place in the future, we will protect our airspace."
Washington, the EU and other bodies have imposed sanctions on Iran's oil trade to press it to halt nuclear research the West fears is aimed at developing the capability to build a nuclear bomb.
The Iranian economy is in free fall, with its currency, the rial hitting a record low. NBC's Ali Arouzi reports.
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The United States and Israel have not ruled out military action against Iran, if diplomacy fails to resolve the row.
Iran denies the charge, saying its nuclear work is purely for peaceful purposes. Iranian officials have threatened to strike U.S. military bases in the region and target Israel if its nuclear sites are attacked.
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Iran has carried out a number of military simulations this year, including the "Great Prophet 7" missile exercises in July.
In August, Iran announced that it had tested a short-range missile with a new guidance system capable of striking land and sea targets.
Reuters contributed to this report.
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This should be called the Antique road show,these ancient warplanes couldn't even shoot down a slow moving spy drone? Iran is not a serious threat militarily ,and as far as attacking Israel with a nuclear weapon,it will never happen as those bearded old men are not suicidal. They are cowards that convince stupid young men that their god wants them to commit suicide. Bunch of dumb asses.
How convenient! Its also convenient they didn't release details of Petraeus FBI investigation for 6 weeks!! Hmmm...and they withheld info on Benghazi....I see an eerie pattern developing here.
When are they going to release Holders interest in the trust for his wife's abortion clinic? Isn't he required to disclose this?
If Iranian Ayotallahs and their rulers in Iran should hang themselves first from their mosques, if they have some sense of shame and they are human!
What a bunch of cowards Shiites are? They talk big, act big and show their bravery before unarmed minorities like Jews, women and others. Then they add their dances when they stone them.
If Sunnis can’t tolerate a very good leader, like Assad, then Shiites should not accept Sunni rulers either. Sunni rulers have been treating girls, women, Shiites, Sufis, Ahemdias and minorities worse than slaves.
Time has come for all of us to stand up and battle for liberations from Sunni barbarians and beasts.
So this means Shiites should ask for their Shiastans wherever they form more than 10 percent.
They should start their liberation struggles from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan (20 percent), Qatar, Oman and other places which have Sunni rulers.
Shiites of Iraq should side with Kurds and should stop oil supplies to Turkey for supporting the Sunni Islamic extremists like al-Qaida, MB in Syria.
Shiites of Bahrain should overthrow their autocratic, corrupt and despotic Sunni ruler.
As they have been taking blows and killings by Sunnis, these Sunnis are able to act as they like to Shiites.
Shiites of Iran should side with Assad and see that all the Sunni rebels are eliminated.
What are the brave Hezbollah doing?
They should do suicide bombings in Mecca and Medina. Or else Shiites genocides just like the genocides of non-Muslims by the Sunni Islamic religious Nazis will continue.
When are they going to release details of Holders interest in the trust for his wife's abortion clinic?
Under the Ethics in Government Act of 1978, high-level federal officials are required to “disclose publicly their personal financial interests to ensure confidence in the integrity of the federal government by demonstrating that they are able to carry out their duties without compromising the public trust.”
Have even read the Act or just happen to think you know what is says by the title. It's just about financial release of income. So what?
Phil,
You have a point there. We have the F-22 Raptor. Hasn't really been tested to the extent that we want at this time but it's batting 1,000 so far. It's actually so fast on the turns and sophisticated that there are Pilots that refuse to fly it.
Our F-16 & F-16 are superior to there F-4/5/7/& 14's. If we do have an air war, we will have our hands full though. They have our left-over jets but, they're still deadly.
Funny thing is that they shot at our un-manned craft that couldn't even fight back and couldn't hit it. LOL. I mean, it was a sitting duckwithout any defensive maneuverability's man... If anything does happen, lets hope that was their "best" airman...
Personally, the bottom line is I pray we don't even get into a conflict in the first place. We need that like a hole in the head.
God Bless America!
Most of the training exercise will be devoted to instructing pilots how not to hit populated areas when they fall out of the sky.
Or, maybe more correctly, not to go anywhere near our Fifth Fleet. Lolz!
These "military exercises" are and have always been regular occurrences in Iran; I don't know why this is news now.
Heightened tensions? Hell, our President tried to hide the incident!
All these near misses provide an opportunity for Iran to see what doesn't work. I'm sure that information is being passed along to other, more technical groups who have the ways and means to address the failures. The drones are slow and stealthy. Their strength lies in those qualities. Those old aircraft are probably more than adequate platforms to dispense modern technology from. The drones are tricky, and it might be like trying to shoot a woodcock with a 22. I'm sure there is a serious effort to develop a shotgun type of weapon, or hand-grenade type, where just getting close will be good enough.
I don't want to see that happen, but there appears to be some groups out there that are dedicated to being our Nemesis.
I can appreciate you guys' candor, but remember that the absolute worst thing you can do in war is underestimate your enemy. 500,000 men holding guns, whether theyre M16's or muskets, is still a formidable thing.
What a bunch of idiots, I don't mean Iran, I'm refering to the ones posting in here. "They cant shoot down a drone", "Would be over in minutes", Are you joking or has the American television dummed you down that low ? Ever hear of Vietnam ? Ever hear of Iraq ? Ever turned off the Simpsons and seen anything about Afganistan ? Where is their airforce, their "Fifth Fleet" ? Why can, why could we not defeat them ? Enough of the im so mighty I would crush you b.s. and back to reality you key board tough guys, "idiots", it's none of our business in the first place.
obama's response to Iran's sabre rattling is to reduce defense spending by $1 trillion and to do nothing about it.... remember Benghazi? His lack of leadership there isn't so old that we should ignore it, but it seems the liberal media has forgotten!
Yup, Barry has a plan all right.... yikes!
I know that Iran possessing a nuclear weapon is probably not a good thing, however, who are the US and EU to say that they shouldn't? I am not defending Iran by any means whatsoever, but since when is it up to these two entities that any country shouldn't have nukes? Where is the Arab League and any other Middle Eastern nation in all of this? Why aren't they speaking out on the issue? Why have the US, EU and Israel appointed themselves as the "keepers of the bomb"? Hell, Israel didn't have to develop nukes, the US GAVE them some.
Even if Iran does develop a nuclear weapon, they know that if they even throw a firecracker in the direction of Israel or any other US ally that all hell will rain down upon them! I mean they can't even shoot down a drone LOL. This also begs the question, why is the US flying drones anywhere close to Iran when they have the satellite technology to gather all the intelligence they will ever need? Simple. The drone was bait. Seems to me the US is daring Iran to "bust a move." Iran isn't stupid enough to fall for this. So they fired a few rounds and "missed" the drone. BIG WHOOP!!
This article is not news!! It's propaganda!! Gimme a break!! The media fuels the war machine once again!!
Keep in mind these lyrics to a song called "Media Overkill" Lyrics by Klaus Meine.
They're watching me
They're watching you
Taking all the world under control
They make you laugh
They make you blue
In the end they try to eat your soul
Satellites transmit the latest thrill
We can't escape the media overkill
A purple flash
The biggest crash
Totally in tune around the world
They take you high
They make you cry
We are at the point of no return
Satellites transmit the latest thrill
We can't escape the media overkill
Over and over and over
A lot of talk here about Iran's aircraft. Iran may have obsolete aircraft but it does have thousands and thousands of missiles. Reality check!
We thought the same thing when we saw the weapons capabilities of Saddam's Army in 2003..and yet, strangely, not very many people who went to Iraq were "LOL'ing" when they got there.
Send in a bomb... they're all going to be at the same place, at the same time... PERFECT!!
What Iranians military (drones, missiles and so on), exercises, nukes and so on!
Iranians can buy/steal nukes from Pakis, if they have brain!
Of course, brain and most Muslim clerics are poles apart!
Tenth century Ayotollah and their gangs can ride camels and do their war dances!
Rest are pure built up or imaginary propaganda!
The US needs a a President like George Washington who stated:
"avoid the necessity of those overgrown military establishments which, under any form of government, are inauspicious to liberty, and which are to be regarded as particularly hostile to republican liberty. In this sense it is that your union ought to be considered as a main prop of your liberty, and that the love of the one ought to endear to you the preservation of the other."
The current Neocon model is not only failing the US but the entire world. Putting military establishments in every country around the world and threatening those without them either only enslaves those with establishments as satellites or are hostile toward those that do not want a foreign base.
How many of US would be okay with another Superpower putting a foreign base on our soil or surrounding us with bases and warships with constant threats of attack?
The America today is not what Washington has envisioned. Our country is no longer ruled by democratic ideals but by Neocon dictators. The law is not the rule of the land any longer. It has been twisted and distorted and the media, which should be questioning, is complicit in carrying out the propaganda of effectively vilifying any country or person that is not in line with the Neocon agenda.
And I don't want to hear about Obama this or Obama that. He is part of the Neocon Agenda while making his base happy on small and insignificant issues (gay marriage, how many people in the country are gay? 1%?). He is effectively taking away your Bill of Rights just like Bush did because that is the only way the Neocons can carry out their War on Liberty.
The War on Terror is an absolute farce. It is a War on Civil Liberties, because as long as people have their Civil Liberties, they can remain sovereign and control their country's fate.
Americans no longer control America's fate, Europeans no longer control their countries' fate, most in the middle east don't control their countries' fate along with Asia and LatAm, and soon enough the Iranians will no longer control their fate.
We would do better to free ourselves from the Neocon tyranny that has taken over since 2000 than to attack any country that wants to be sovereign and independent of that very tyranny.
Iran is merely preparing for a likely attack from the warmongering Israel and US. Every country should have a right to repel aggression from outside.
I hope everyone wakes up before it's too late and we end up like the Weimar Republic. Don't forget Iraq in 2003! Where do you think all the money for the next war is going to come from? Either much higher taxes or much more borrowing. It will not be taxes since there would be no popular support.
They go the underhanded way and borrow, which will bury the country into an even greater and unprecedented debt which we will never be able to pay. Once that happens, we will be at the point of no return and will end up like Greece while foreign investors come in and rake the country over the coals.
Inflation and unemployment will ravage the country if there is another war. I hope everyone is not dumb enough to lend popular support to the war like they did in 2003 with Iraq.
"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who are evil but because of those who do nothing about it!" Einstein.
They're in the mail along with Romney's tax returns. BTW a "abortion clinic" is a legal business.
zapain- who would have thought a 20+ year old Scorpions song have any bearing on modern day life. Life through the arts. And yes, Rock and Roll is an art form
Holder is going down....along with some of Barrys other "friends"
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/major-banks-governmental-officials-and-their-comrade-capitalists-targets-of-spire-law-group-llps-racketeering-and-money-laundering-lawsuit-seeking-return-of-43-trillion-to-the-united-states-treasury-2012-10-25
Some of the alleged conspirators are Attorney General Holder, Assistant Attorney General Tony West, the brother in law of Defendant California Attorney General Kamala Harris, Jon Corzine (former New Jersey Governor), Robert Rubin (former Treasury Secretary and Bankster), Timothy Geitner, Treasury Secretary, Vikram Pandit (recently resigned and disgraced Chairman of the Board of Citigroup), Valerie Jarrett (a Senior White House Advisor), Anita Dunn (a former “communications director” for the Obama Administration), Robert Bauer (husband of Anita Dunn and Chief Legal Counsel for the Obama Re-election Campaign), as well as the “Banksters” themselves, and their affiliates and conduits.
I just hope they dont have too long an exercise, one or two thingamabobs break and they are out of business. then we wont get to attack in a tit for tat.
These tenth century brave girls, women, minorities like Jews fighters could not win a war against Saddam even after a decade of battles!
They sent small kids with their Qurans to fight against Saddam!
For NATO forces 1991 Iraqi war later was the shortest one by winning within a month and least losses!
These tenth century Shiite desert dancers with their Qurans are some of the biggest cowards one can find in 21st century.
Will anyone take up so many beatings all around from another seventh century Sunni desert dancers led by a highly megalomaniac, despotic and bigoted Sunni Saudi ruler and his 5000 princes and princesses and their gangs spread all around Sunni majority nations?
These days, Sunni Qatari ruler is doing too much of his seventh century desert dances in Syria!
We have no roles in the battles between these Shiites vs Sunni desert war dancers!
Actually, Iran was winning in 1982, and threatened to overwhelm Iraq's Army. The US was afraid of that scenario, so they...guess what? Intervened and helped Iraq with all kinds of tactical / intelligence support.
Even trained Iraqies in guess what? Guerilla Warfare and Insurgency, at Fort Bragg, i in case Iraq's Army had to go underground. The US even engaged the Iranians, sunk / damaged some warships, oil platforms, and ultimately shot down a civilian airliner, killing hundreds of Iranians. Iran decided to get onboard with ending the war, thinking the US would do anything.
The End-Game by the US & Soviets was to ensure NEITHER side won. Neither side won.
Iraq used chemical weapons; Iran did not. Iraq would have lost, without the US.
Raidaz: After the Saddam's Iraq vs Iran war, one can make up whatever one wants.
At that time, under Pres Ronald Ragan, US gave arms to Iranians!
In Iran vs Iraq war no one was a decisive winner except losing about a million in the war!
Johathan is correct, Raidaz.
The '80's war between Iran and Iraq was a draw. We armed Iran, and STILL, neither side won. It looks like THAT came back to bite us in the a$$, eh? Much like how Regan armed the Afghan Taliban thugs during the Soviet occupation in the late '70's and '80's. Deja vu, all over again.
So just to put in context- F4s and F5s were used by US Forces in Vietnam. While the US sold off surplus in the late 70's and early 80's; only if the Iranians built support mfg could they sustain any protracted conflict. These jets were shot down by Russian SAM's guided by heat signature - so not a sophisicated system to balance the odds (and very low cost). The upper end model (F14) was a failed design replaced quickly by F15s then F16s. In direct conflict with U.S. or Israeli forces, these would not pose a serious issue outside "surprise" conflict.
But-against a minimally armed (i.e.-people with semi-automatics, etc) these are more than enough. They are on par with the conventional forces of Pakistan, Turkmenistan, etc.; and would be an over-whelming force against non-U.S. / Coalition forces in Afganistan. This is nothing more than sabre rattling as Iran's real enemy is themselves and the fact that they are on near economic collapse. Crazy is as crazy does - our role with Iran's neighbors should be nothing more than contain and monitor. The nuclear weapon threat is still an empty one and Amanutjob knows that which is why we don't take too much fear in his words, but still it's better to keep an eye on a presence than to ignore.
Jonathan, I did'nt make anything up. The US was helping BOTH sides - Iran via Israel. Scroll down and read Support, and the Military Training sections. It is common for Superpowers to play both sides.
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jonathan. you are full of sh*t. iran was not fighting saddam. iran was in war with the west via saddam. saddam was given all the newest millitary equipment along with the awacs planes, jet fighters, tanks, and anything you can imagine including chemical bomb . u.s even safe garded iraqi's oil tankers passing through persian gulf. most arab countries didn't hesitate to give hime all the money he needed to defeat iran, but they were to be denied. get some facts before you post bs like this. If it wasn't for the help of us. saddam wouldn't stand one day of iran's retaliation. google to see what iran;s airforce did to them. fact is u.s has not won a war after the IIww. afghanis defeated u.s with $10 home made bombs. from your posting I take it that you are a warmongering psychopath.
Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Pakistan, parts of Africa, Yemen and now Iran. How much war do you need you communist pigs?
Communist pigs ? I don't understand, what do you mean ?
Communist?!?! WTF?! LOL.
Thrill22, look up Communism. Heh heh.... Don't you just hate when your time runs out to change something you don't like and there's nothing you can do about it? ;-)
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especially when they talk out of their "other" orifice!
How about just incinerating the entire Middle East.
Naw, I rather it be the end of the world for everybody since everybody is now perceptively stupid.
As opposed to some Newsvine comments, which are perceptibly stupid to a perceptive person.
after that embarrasing episode last week
id have my military out practicing too lol
cant even hit a slow moving target
im pretty sure the 2 pilots were shot for missing
Those pilots did indeed shoot at the drone but the question is did they actually miss or was it just warning shots for the drone's camera to see? Never trust mainstream media to report all the facts.
If u.s millitary think the way most these people do here, u.s is in big trouble. Iranian indeed fired warning shot, knowing that if they brought the drone down, it could start a war, but people here are so stuipid that they think iranian pilot missed. If you check them by google , you'll see that they have some of the best pilots in the world.
Smoke and mirrors. Where's Bush? He could show them some old "Shock and Awe" Tapes to show them the error of their ways.
Iran was at it's weakest point after a nine year war with saddam costing them half a million people and $ trillions in damage with a broken millitary ,but u.s didn't have the guts to attack them. now they are very powerful, they have their own millitary industry and make all kind of offensive and defensive ballestic missells. If they are a attacked, they are going to bring down the u.s and west as well. I don't know why we are even discussing a war here and it is amazing how many war monderers there are here. the fact is that all the war that u.s has been in, was to protect the corporations interests. if you read between the line, they always mention u.s interest. what exactly is u.s interest. u.s people, none. u.s corporation, oil and gas. who pays for the wars. u.s tax payers. who gives his life, ordinary u.s citizens.and who benefit from war, corporation. so stop advocating war and start advertizing peace.
Good to see the Ayatollah's (like the Taliban in Afghanistan, that have kicked the UNITED SNAKES (US/NATO) asses 'bloody' in the past two years) assert themselves against the low life thugs of the US/Israel/NATO 'mafia.' I mean, you are 'offended' because your spy drones 'flying over Iranian territory' have shot at your spy drones? Whatever happened to International law, the UN Charter and even the Nuremburg Protocols that define 'aggression' as the untimate war crime? Might may make right, but as the Taliban has shown the US/NATO 'punks', "You play with the bull and you get the horn!' Remember that, all you so-called 'Patriots' that post on this site and believe that the Great Satan (That's your daddy) can do no wrong. Ya hear?
To believe you're from AZ is a stretch of the imagination.
Way to show how much of a MORON you are TheAZCowjerk.
Hillary? Is that you?
that dosn't apply to u.s, nato and isreal. it is for the rest of the world.
WAR WAR WAR and now it begins.....
What a mess this world is in.
Some interested parties in the US make sure that we are part of it!
Or else, what business we have in Syria and Iran?
Who in right senses will apply sanctions on Iranian oil to hike oil prices knowing well the Sunni Saudi and oil companies price manipulations using Iraqi wars as excuse?
If we weren't sticking our nose in their business there would be no problem with Iran. We are the attack dogs of the planet over the last 50 yrs. not Iran. We have attacked several nations Viet-Nam Panama,Grenada,Iraq,Afghanistan,Libya,Bosnia, and we could include Cuba by proxy ie. Bay of Pigs. Iran has attacked no other nations during this same time period.We are the country the world should be fearing not Iran.
If we didn't stick our nose in other peoples business, you might not have the freedom to criticize the USA for doing so. Think about that! But I know that some people live with their heads in the sand and believe the world is a Utopia. That there are no other countries that have an agenda, only the USA.
You people and your phony patriotism. We can destroy the world a thousand times over. Look in the mirror and tell me who is always threatening military action against other nations. Amazing how the Swiss mind their own business and prosper while we are 16 trillion in debt an on the decline.
Your naivete is breathtaking.
What we could do is irrelevant. Despite all the US's faults, we wouldn't attack another nation with nuclear weapons unprovoked. Iran has already vowed to. Personally, I just wish all the warmongers (ours included) would just all go to an empty part of the would and personally settle all of their problems and leave the rest of us out of it.
Amazing how the Swiss don't consume 7 billion barrels of refined petroleum products per year.
@denver
Amazing how the swiss don't fund other countries to find oil (that we will pay for), while blocking our ability domestically.
Equally amazing is how we get most of our oil from Canada and Central/South America now and we're still to dumb enough to think that trying to "stabilize" and "bring Jeffersonian Democracy" to these lunatics in the Middle East will help us in any way.............have another slice of mooncheese, warmongers..........
Once it's gone it's gone. Let them use up all of theirs first.
Tea 1959 Iran has not attacked another country in over 300 years and yet we over through their goverment in 1953 to control their oil. BP started in Iran at the turn of the century and were being kicked out. Iran took back the goverment in 1979 and did not harm one American. Then we backed Saddam against Iran to again control oil. Iraq was going to sell oil in euros and the US was not going to allow that to happen so they took him out. Bush said oil would pay for the war but the only one that got oil was Israel and we built at taxpayers expense a 42" pipline from Iraq to Israel. Why did Israel get the oil along with 20 billion in welfare from the American tax payer? Stop these wars of the rich and greedy oil barons. Wake up Americans , God hates war.
Equally amazing is how anyone thinks that "stabilizing" the region has anything at all to do with "bringing Jeffersonian Democracy" to the region. "Stabilizing" means "controlling access" ...... no more, no less. Before you say that is a bad thing, perhaps you should ask the other net oil consuming nations who they would prefer besides the United States to fill that role.
Those "other" net oil consuming nations who "prefer" the US fill that role can now send in their OWN young men to fight and die for their oil. In the event you haven't noticed, or may have forgotten, Denver; Americans have had it with being their bytchboy. The world's globocop has turned in his badge. It will be up to THEM to fight for their own resources in the future - they'll have no choice but get off THEIR dead a$$es and do it all on their own.
How much prosperity do you think there'd be if the United States Navy wasn't keeping communication, trade, and sealines safe and secure?
How stable do you think the world economy would be if the United States Army suddenly took the lid off the cauldron in Bosnia, Korea, Eastern Europe, or the Middle East?
A stable world economy is not a natural state of affairs. It's something that has to be enforced. People complain about American hegemony and the occasional American intervention...and yet, the period since WWII has seen fewer people die from conflict than any other period of human history. The first decade of the 21st Century was - GASP! - the most peaceful period humanity has yet experienced in terms of war dead.
All facts...but then again, facts are inconvenient things.
travis. u.s has %50 of the world wealth but there are over 40 million people in u.s living in poverty.u.s has %5 of world population and hold %25 of world prisoners.not exactly something to bragg about, so the time that u.s was prosper is gone. the fact is that the immigration of the educated population of the world to u.s has dropped drastically. the u.s and it's intervention has destabalize the middle east. the world economy is worst that it has ever been and it is not STABLE.u.s owes $16 trillion. mostly not to china as people are told , but to the federal reserve which is a private banking corporation who owns all the politicians .and finally perhaps a fewer american died, but look how many iraqi and afghani people died not only from war but also in iraq sanction alone killed a million children. and I guess by humanity you mean americans? you must be a republican completely disconnected from reality.
For those who say "we should stay out of it", have you noticed the threat of war only increases?? We are being pushed from all directions because we are hated!!
I wonder why we are hated??? DA
Does anyone know how to tell if a muslim has reached puberty? When he takes the diaper off his @ss and puts it on his head.
happily retarded . does that same principle apply to jews and christians? I am not a muslim, but you are a retired unhappy sick man
you people are really under estimating iran's millitary., but the point is that's all rethoric. did any one think about that drone which Iran fired shot at some 12 days ago. obama's administration waited till after the election to announce it, but why did Iran wait?that is a big why. they are doing buissiness behind the close door with u.s. which is ok as long as it keeps both sides from getting into another war.
Here we go again, Middle East, endless wars, but this time since it barry. There will be and are not any street protesting, the laddies in black(remember them from baby bush's day's) code stinky pink with Fatty Sheehan, and of course all the Hollyweird crowd. Just another war, how many is that in the last 100 years we have fought?To either save the Europe, or stop the spread of Communism, or WMDs, or in this one will be about Iran building nukes. Guess what these dopes could build a good case of hemorrhoids, let alone a nuke. We are getting bamboozled and hoodwinked again.
Very well said. The United States takes paranoia to a quantum level.
What better way to diguise the true reasons for keeping the military machine grinding along at mach speed?
Dave: to end up delivering devastating results at home (including soldiers and their families) and making a place messier than it was earlier!
It's no surprise to me that a country holds drills within its border. They have the right to do whatever the damn military thing they wanted to. As long as they are not doing it like Saddam using chemical weapons on its own people or commit any kind of war crime, there's nothing we can do about it.
Don't be pissed.
Talking militarily, Iran's current drill only shows its military vulnerability to our war experts and planners as they openly display what they are capable of and their weaknesses. That way we know where to hit when the time come.
To me, there is never a good time to beat the drums of war. Even though the winner will win overwhelmingly, there will definitely be casualties on the part of the winner -- only God knows to what extend. That's the price/toll to pay. Worth it? You judge.
To me, again, a peaceful resolution of conflicts is the best rational way to go. Who wants to die even though he/she may want to make sacrifice to the beloved country int he first place? And by the way, the first rule in the battlefield when in combat is to "survive."
Taking the entire region from an aerial view, we don't want to be drawn into military conflict(s) given that all options are still on the table. Sanctions are working, all out sufferance in Iran is evident, it will only get worse over time. I would let that stupid @ss be that stupid @ss within its own border, flex any "muscles" it wants in closed door.
Relax people.
No offense to those who oppose this view.
Let's be cool and wise about it.
God Bless America!
Who the hell cares about Iran when we are all phucked up here in the good USSA (unites solialist states america)? Let Israel bomb the crap out of Iran...who cares? Our POS POTUS will let Iran have the bomb will be my guess.....who care's when we are all phucked up over here in the ussa...this still won't create jobs here...oh wait...no body wants jobs...they want the government to take care of them...free stuff is in order....ah....who cares?
Who care's that our government is taking control of very lives with 68 new regulations "A DAY"?
Who care's if Democrats win another election? People just want free stuff...ah who care's? Who care's if we are hated around the world? Who care's if we don't help to our east coast people? Who care's about anything important nowadays? In 2 years or less, we will have a total devastation of our country..who care's anyway? No jobs...no families....no work....living the way we do NOW for the rest of our lives...who care's....Let the world run all over us...who care's?....Let Russia and China come over and rule us...who care's...
who care's?
11 years of war with men in caves(afghanistan) and no victory yet!!do you people really think that a war with iran will be over in seconds?keep dreaming.
It's not a matter of ground style fighting if we really go to war with the country, as opposed to trying to police the country from a terrorist sect.
Rrmin what exactly do you mean by police a country from terrorist sect.
alquida was created by u.s.
taliban was created by u.s
osama bin ladin was created and trained by cia
jihadis, wahabi's ,salafi's are branches of alquida supported by qatar and saudi arabia who are the u.s allies.
so what were you saying?
Where do you think they got those jet fighters yes you are right the US. The middle east is not in our national interest get the hell out of the middle east. That's why all aid to the middle east, and the rest of the world should stop now. We our in a financial cliff and should be thinking of america, and it's people not Iran. We have subs off there coast who could destroy Iran in seconds. Worry about our homeland and not the middle east if our homeland is attack then destroy that invader with any means possible including nuclear bomb.
That country is so fragmented that it is hard to tell who is in charge. The Revolutionary Guard, the Ayatollah, I-bin-in-a-job ? Saw interview of I-bin-in-a-job and he refused to answer straight questions, evasive...cant believe anything he says.
DG. it is not the country that is fragmented. it is the government and hopefully something good will come out of that.
Ha...Truth is you TRIED to shot it down but MISSED. Yeah, we are afraid VERY afraid...lol.
Those were good fighters in their time. WE have moved way beyond that. Is that ALL you got?......lol
They wouldn't even have had that had WE not LET them have it. Isn't that the American way? Arm the rest of the world with our obsolete fire power then very quietly prod them into aggression. Sounds like the perfect recipe to keep the military industrial ball rolling at mach speed. War and war material generates more $$ than everything else known to man combined, and the good old USofA is at the helm. Isn't that something now?
Nothing like a good world war during tough economic times to push the reset button and correctly balance out the worlds problems. Hell, it worked like a charm in the 1940's. About one hundred million casualties world wide after it was all said and done, then it was happy times are here again. This time with everyone and their brother holding a nuclear arsenal with any single one of them having the capability to destroy this mud ball several times over we could put the population back at medieval levels. Then we could have happy times again, a couple hundred yrs after the fact. Hell yeah! WWIII! Bring it on baby!
if there is any left
No worries!
Obama to grab his Knee Pads, and go talk to them!
I wonder if he has started wearing his pants with a zipper in the back yet?
Yea, I guess you two are correct (sarc). If Mitt won the POTUS, the US could just outsource the war to China or India.
I highly doubt that Obama is going to fold or let Iran have nuclear weapons. Nuclear Power, yea. Nuclear weapons, no way.
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This is just a story put out to try to embarass the president by those who are angry that reason prevailed and the president was reelected.
The sanctions are working.
I am confident that the president will soon announce an accord with Iran precluding any further attempts to make a nuclear bomb.
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Biden in 2012.
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Ya, they're "working" so well that Iran is conducting Military Exercises, and getting prepared for when they "Have a Weapon".
But no worries! Joe's awesome Intel, ( you know, the Intel that told them the Benghazi Attack was a response to a Video ) will insure that "we'll know when they're close to having a weapon"!
I just watched the movie "V for Vendetta" the other night.
Anyone see any similarities going on here with all this mess?
Everyone get your Guy Fawkes mask and be ready to watch the show!!
Still trying to lead your Hacker Movement?
Lulzsec and Anonynous are boring reprebates who no longer deserve media attention.
Like the Tea Party your time has come and gone.
ME is not our business. Just keep miles away.
Just like before each Iraqi wars, autocratic, highly corrupt and despotic bigoted Sunni Sunni Saudi, UAE, Qatar, Kuwaiti and Sunni oil rich nations are stage managing their dances and actions through oil companies, extremist Jewish lobbys and their puppets in the US, Britain, EU and other nations on Syria and Iran.
In Syria, Syrian rebels are backed by a-Qaida and MB.
In Egypt, Islamic fundamentalist Morsi is a front cover for the Sunni Islamic extremist Salaffi, MB and others.
With sanctions on Iranian oil, oil prices which was around $40 in 2009 has crossed $110 now.
If Iraqi wars gave us PIIGS, there will more nations added to PIIGS.
IRAQ WARS
Net results of Saudi, Kuwait, UAE, oil companies and their lobbyists directed 1991 and 2003 Iraqi wars are
WINNERS
1. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE and other rich ME sharks became richer by manipulating oil prices too high.
2. Oil companies and their lobbyists also benefitted. Oil prices, which were hardly $30 a barrel before 1991, shot up to $140 a barrel.
3. Since 2003, future traders, rating agencies, Wall Street and oil companies and their lobbyists transferred five trillion dollars from oil importing countries to oil exporting nations.
4. Rich Sunni ME sharks (Saudi Arabia in particular) funded Salaffi and Wahhabi mosques and Islamic radicals and terrorists all over the world. These Sunni Islamic radicals and terrorists are rampaging all over the world. World’s 80 percent of problems are due to them.
LOSERS
1. General US and European nations’ public. There have been high unemployment, cut in welfare measures, housing market collapse and more miseries. Since 2001, US spent three trillion dollars on Iraq and Afghan wars. Did the Saudis and co foot the bill?
2. Poor soldiers killed and injured and their families. In Iraq and Afghan wars 6300 soldiers were killed and 40000 injured.
3. High budget deficits and heavier borrowing. Many nations (PIIGS) and people are on line to bankruptcy!
4. Iraq will plunge into bloody sectarian civil wars leading to the creation of Shiastan, Sunnistan and Kurdistan. Here the losses are of Iraqis.