Tweets, how can this violent moment in the Middle East be any different than the last? The Hamas rockets will continue with little or no damage to Israel. The Israelis will obliterate Hamas launching sites. The launching sites will be nestled among Gazan homes and schools. Innocent Gazans will become instant martyrs. Hezbollah will launch their own rockets, and might possibly try to cross the Lebanon-Israel border for some up close and personal terror. The Israelis will bomb Beirut. The Lebanese, with the blessing of Hezbollah, will cry murder. The only questions I have now is what will the Muslim Bro-Hood do when they see all of those Palestinian casualties? And what will Iran do when they see all of the Lebanese casulaties? This time I think that there is a real chance that the Egyptians will get directly involved and the Iranians will get indirectly involved. Maybe just involved enough that Israel will strike at them.

This could all be solved if Hamas, Hezbollah and the Iranians stopped threatening Israel's existence, and if the Israelis withdrew from the West Bank. No one can blame the Israelis for defending themselves. Its the Muslims who hate and hate and hate anyone who or anything that is not Muslim.

HonestJ,"little or no damage", No, 3 Israeli's were killed, many more in bomb shelters, and lots of property damage.I agree with most of your post. More of the bombs, from Gaza ,and their proxy "buddies" , are more advanced then before. Israel will now open up an offensive never seen before in Gaza. Syria, will contiue to burn, Eygypt will be under pressure from MB, will go to the UN, and ask that Israel stop the "agression", meanwhile closing up the border crossing even tighter with Gaza. The Sinai is in danger of exploding, so Eygyt is in a real tough bind, and everyone is watching what they do. And of course Iran, is playing with Hamas, and the sewer rat Naserallah. Even Jordon is eruping today with Protests against the King. Thankfully, Israel, no longer listens to the double speak, of those leaders who want Israel to stand down. She knows better.

To the author of this article - Eric Cantor isn't a member of the House of Representatives. He's the Senate Minority Leader. I think you probably need some more editors at your paper.

While it is very sad to see loss of Israeli lives; I wonder who keeps score of how many Palestinians killed this year so far?

It is very sensational to show images of innocent civilians cowering behind a rock. I wish this same journalist had the same courage to show the same images for people in similar situation elsewhere in the world including Palestine.

@snowflake

Eric Cantor is a representative. Mark Warner and Jim Webb are the senators from Virginia. I should know. I'm from Virginia.

snowflake, better check again. That would be Mitch McConnell. I think you need to learn the facts before you make a fool out of yourself.

Its ironic that Egypt now with a democratically elected govt cannot be relied on anymore where the dictatorship was more sympathetic towards Israel. Syria and Jordan may be next to become more democratic, where will that leave Israel? I do hope Israel will see where the trend is for the next 10-20 years and become less militant and more diplomatic as the US may be the only country that supports Israel in the future.

snowflake-4164931: RE: Comment about Eric Cantor.

Perhaps you need to read a newspaper.

Snowflake-

You qualify to be on Jay Leno's Jaywalking tour. You could be a star. Really!

This is a very critical moment for Morsi and the new government of Egypt. Are they going to be responsible international citizens and denounce Hamas for firing over 100 rockets into Israel over 5 days and provoking this response from Israel or are they going to support the terrorists of Hamas. I think we are seeing preliminary indications that Morsi is going to support the terrorists. This is borne out by his recalling of Egypt's ambassador to Egypt and his current public rhetoric in which he is trying to place the blame on Israel. I would not be surprised to see the Egyptian government abrogate the 1979 peace treaty with Israel over the next few days. Unfortunately, the Egyptian response to this flare up, which was clearly provoked by Hamas, is showing with undeniable certainty that Egypt is now firmly in the hands of Islamist fanatics and that things are going to become much more unstable in the Middle East. The only reason that Hamas has been able to build up their stockpile of rockets and longer range missiles is that the Egyptians have become complicit in their actions by not maintaining security along their border with Gaza. They have looked the other way while the Iranians supply missiles to Hamas by shipping them through Egypt. The solid embargo against weapons going into Gaza through Egypt that was in place under the previous Egyptian government is no longer in place. The Muslim Brotherhood has been given a free hand to ramp up arms shipments to Hamas through Egypt and this does not bode well for the stability of the region. I just hope that Egypt is prepared for the consequences of their actions.

Mr. Netanyahu has to be more careful? He has Syria, Hamas and Hezbollah on his borders. Israel has a right to respond to attacks. I also think the media's use of the word assassinate is wrong. The man was the military wing commander of Hamas, which took upon itself the launching of rockets into Israel. He was killed by a military op that resulted. I don't consider it an assassination; it's eye for an eye in the Arab world.

can you imagine how great america could be if people cared about it even half as much as they care about whats happening in the middle east ??

"Netanyahu has to be more careful about starting a war"

Here we go again with the typical "liberal" anti-Israel bigotry. Happens every time the "liberals'" pet islamists incite a military response. I would say that Hamas, et. al, should be more careful about starting a war, but upon second thought, war would be a win-win situation for them. They would win through their perceived "martyrdom" and again through the anti-Israel backlash from the "liberals" in the U.S. and their muslim brotherhood. (Lower case muslim brotherhood... meaning the philosophical relationship, not the Egyptian government.) Therefore, they have no incentive to be careful.

I really hate to see all the deaths and don't want war, but sometimes I wish it would all just come to a head and get it over with. Otherwise, 50 years from now our children will still be dealing with the same old problem.

The UK Guardian is doing a more complete report on this story:

Israeli airstrikes continued in Gaza today following the attack yesterday that killed Hamas’s military chief Ahmed al-Jabari. The attack came after a series of rocket attacks from Gaza into southern Israel over recent days. The Israeli army said 156 targets were hit in Gaza, 126 of them rocket launchers. Thirteen people were killed in Gaza yesterday including a pregnant woman with twins, an 11-month old boy and two infants, with 130 wounded, according to Gaza’s health ministry. A truce was not on the agenda, Israeli military spokeswoman Avital Leibovitz said. Hamas’s leader, Khaled Meshaal, vowed to “continue the resistance”. Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, who rules the West Bank but not Gaza, cut short a European trip to return to the West Bank in response to the crisis.

• Three Israelis were killed by a rocket attack from Gaza, the first Israeli fatalities in the present conflict. The deaths came when a four-storey building was hit in the town of Kiryat Malachi, 15 miles (25km) north of Gaza; a four-year-old boy and two babies were also wounded. Israel said 200 rockets had struck Israel since yesterday, 135 since midnight. Eighteen rockets had been shot down today by Israel’s “iron dome” counter-missile missile system, Israel said. Hamas claimed it had fired a one-tonne rocket at Tel Aviv, but there were no reports of an impact in the city.

• Hamas declared a state of emergency in Gaza and Israel did the same in the country’s south.

Here is the MOST interesting part, especially for those of you who say Muslims "never" want peace - Natanyahu never wants peace!

'Jabari killed hours after receiving truce agreement'

Hours before Hamas military commander Ahmed al-Jabari was killed he received the draft of a permanent truce agreement with Israel, Israeli peace activist Gershon Baskin told Haaretz.

Baskin helped mediate between Israel and Hamas in the deal to release Gilad Shalit.

Baskin told Haaretz on Thursday that senior officials in Israel knew about his contacts with Hamas and Egyptian intelligence aimed at formulating the permanent truce, but nevertheless approved the assassination ...

According to Baskin, during the past two years Jabari internalised the realisation that the rounds of hostilities with Israel were beneficial neither to Hamas nor to the inhabitants of the Gaza Strip and only caused suffering, and several times he acted to prevent firing by Hamas into Israel.

He said that even when Hamas was pulled into participating in the launching of rockets, its rockets would always land in open spaces. “And that was intentional,” clarified Baskin.

In recent months Baskin was continuously in touch with Hamas officials and with Egyptian intelligence as well as with officials in Israel, whose names he refused to divulge. A few months ago Baskin showed defence minister Ehud Barak a draft of the agreement and on the basis of that draft an inter-ministry committee on the issue was established. The agreement was to have constituted a basis for a permanent truce between Israel and Hamas, which would prevent the repeated rounds of shooting.

“In Israel,” Baskin said, “they decided not to decide, and in recent months I took the initiative to push it again.”

Link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/15/israel-gaza-militants-deadly-exchanges-live?intcmp=239

The world is falling apart but thank goodness Big Bird is safe. Children are getting bombed but thank goodness we have abortion on demand. selfish fuks

ED-2874315

Now the Israeli responce will kill 10X the number of Palistinians. If they move in with a ground assault it will be more than 100:1 like it was in '08-'09.

Both sides will become more polarized, and peace will be more distant, while settlers appropriate more land on the west bank.

SO...IT'S ISRAELS' FAULT??????????????

Crystal- Thanks for your post, I love PBS too, eventhough I'm not a big fan of Big Bird like yourself. I prefer Kermit and the Count, but thank goodness Big Bird is safe. A few children are getting bombed on both sides of this insanity, but let's hope they get to watch Big Bird before they die and go be with Jesus. Oh wait, their parents don't believe in Jesus, so don't tell the Jews or Muslims that their children will be with Jesus.

Abortion is awful and should not be on demand, but these children will too get to be with Jesus.

CC GWRider - AAAAHHHHHHHH- CC Rider ---I really hate to see all the deaths and don't want war, but sometimes I wish it would all just come to a head and get it over with. Otherwise, 50 years from now our children will still be dealing with the same old problem

The murderous Cult of Islam has been attacking Israel for 64 years now and will continue for another 64 unless it does come to a head and Israel removes the cult of Islam form the Holy land once and for ever!!!

Do any of my fellow Liberals think we would put up with missle attacks for 64 years? If Cuba decided to send missles into Florida instead of just refugees, the USA would not put up with this for 64 years, or 64 days, or even 64 hours, but Cuba would be gone in 64 minutes. Israel needs to get rid of the murdering cultist already. They have been dicking around far too long and trying to treat these animals like the humans they will never become. The world has evolved past the stupidity of Cults, but Islam seems to be going backwards.

Praise be to Allah and her glorious VAGINA

It looks like Egypt has forgotten 1967 and 1973. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. If Egypt doesn't get their act together they will have to relearn their lessons. If Egypt and the muslim brotherhood attack, Israel will be forced to wipe out Gaza so they can focus on Egypt, Gaza could be out of the picture in half a day.

Where is the article on how many civilians that were killed in Pali. by Israel bombs,forgot that would anti-Israel. I would be willing to bet that the civilians that were killed in Israel were Pali. since Israel has most of it's bases in Pali. neighborhoods.

Israel started all this conflict, and Netanyahu is a war monger. If they would try being diplomatic for once in their arrogant existence, then maybe the violence would stop. The U.S. should stop supporting them. They have nukes, they have an army, and they are perfectly capable of defending themselves without our aid which they simply waste on wars. We stole the land of Israel from its at-the-time rightful owners, and now we reap what we sowed. Let it all burn and let's get out of the middle east.

reality check,

Israel's responce is typically out of proportion with the provocation, you can reality check the numbers yourself, if you like.

They continue to break international law,(UN 242) . Only the US's vetoing multiple Security council resolutions has kept Israel from cripling sanctions.

Israel did not start this PATRICK 93. The hamas starting sending mortars on tues. Over 100 mortars were shot at Israel. Reuters is not telling the truth. Israel let the world know on tues what was happening, and on wed. they fought back killing this stop hamas commander. So before you put your foot in your mouth again maybe you should investigate what is going on and not believe a news article.

The world has evolved past the stupidity of Cults, but Islam seems to be going backwards.

not really, there is one cult that has a stranglehold on reason in the US

the only reason those cultists support Israel is so that it can be destroyed to fulfill their delusional, magic "prophecy".

Same old BS.

Israel occupies, steals land, kills, refuses to talk and wants no resistance from its victims.

Palestinians hit civilian targets, refuse to recognize and talk to Israel, even if they can't win by force.

patrick, you are the idiot, the whole thing started in 1958 by Israel being ATTACKED when it was formed. the Arabs have been trying their best to destroy Israel ever since, with three full-scale wars

Israeli warmonger Netanyahu is directly responsible for this flare-up. This criminal thinks he can murder whoever he does not like and get away with it. Israel is not interested in peace. Israel is only interested in expanding their settlements. As long as there is conflict they can continue to steal more land from the Palestinians.

i give him credit , and i will put his pic in my livingroom ,

hey, i'll happily shove his pic up your a$$ sideways.

Its Bush's fault

Israeli tanks have been mobilized and reservists called into action.

Looks like it's time for some ground sweeps to begin in Gaza. Cutting power in 3, 2, 1 ...

Patrick, can't wait to read your spin on Syria, as you seem to have it locked down on Israel. Are you for real!! Man you must have had the you know what kicked out of you growing up,as you took all the crap, and never hit back. Oh, forgot, you never started it.

Not shown yet on US networks is that Hamas have just fired long range Iranian rockets at Tel Aviv. I think this is the turning point. Israel is calling up 30,000 reservists and soon a full scale incursion into the West Bank is inevitable. This time they will no doubt endeavor to crush Hamas. Due to Egyptian uncertainties I would expect them to parachute into southern Gaza to close off escape routes.

I don't care who you are.....keep poking me and sooner or later you will be bitch slapped.

Patrick------Hamas is doing the poking and Israel is doing the bitch slapping. Just in case you were lost. (again)

Hamas is launching rockets into Israeli civilian populations and Israel finally got tired of it and started shooting back. Now these people say they want to retaliate? For what? Israels retaliation? Stupid is as stupid does.

Just level Gaza and be done with it.

While it is very sad to see loss of Israeli lives; I wonder who keeps score of how many Palestinians killed this year so far?

Obviously not enough to teach the Palestinians a lesson.

When a state kills someone without a trial or due process, it is murder. State sponsored murder is still murder. When you blow up a car full of people to murder one that is multiple counts of murder.

Israel is a rogue state by any reasonable definition. Time for America to stop blocking security council sanctions against them.

Killing 100 for every one you lose (like Israel did in operation Cast Lead dec'08-jan'09) is what the nazis did when attacked by the resistance.

Sow your seeds, not mine!

Zathrose

If i were next to you 2 I would give you both a big hug. Finally some common sense on the site.

People dont seem to quite understand Israel has had over 100 mortars fired at them in the past couple days now and had a few fatalities. Hamas is firing these mortars into 1/5 of the nations population. Once Israel says, "thats enough" and strikes back, the anti-semites cry out war crimes and war mongering on Israels behalf. Wtf?

Once again, thank you for your common sense. It is greatly appreciated.

It looks like the Hamas and Hezbollah terrorist are asking to have their asses handed to them again. Why can't these Arab barbarians work for peace instead of always instigating conflict.

Israel gave up gaza in return for a peace process, seems like a broken contract to me, time for Israel to evict the squatters and repossess its land. If Egypt wants to play stupid and break the peace treaty maybe the Sinai will get repo'd as well.

To all you anti-Israeli extremists, I have a question: If a hostile enemy in the Caribbean launched 100 rockets at south Florida over the course of 5 days, what do you suppose the U.S. response would be, and what do you think it should be?

It's actually a trick question, because nobody would be allowed to launch rockets at south Florida for 5 days in a row. The U.S. response would come within 5 hours, and it would be merciless.

When a state kills someone without a trial or due process, it is murder. State sponsored murder is still murder.

So what you are saying is that Obama should be brought up on charges for murdering OBL. Or is it only Israeli's that should be brought up on those type of charges?

Killing 100 for every one you lose (like Israel did in operation Cast Lead dec'08-jan'09) is what the nazis did when attacked by the resistance.

Sorry, not the same. Just because palestinians are inept terrorists Israel should purposely miss their targets and stop taking out terrorists when they reach a certain quota?

"OK guys, stop shooting. We got our bag limit. We now have to wait until they get lucky and kill a couple more of ours before we return fire."

Yes, this is political, but its roots stem from the worship of imaginary men.

If people stop that, the rest will follow.

No No no, this has got to be George Bush's fault

This is almost like Netanyahu saying; damn, I couldn't get Romney elected to start a war with Iran, so, I'll take the long way around, start a couple of small wars that will lead to Iran, and by then, maybe I'll be able to sucker President Obama to send American boys, and girls to fight for Israel.

Netanyahu, is that your plan?

AZskibum

To all you anti-Israeli extremists, I have a question: If a hostile enemy in the Caribbean launched 100 rockets at south Florida over the course of 5 days, what do you suppose the U.S. response would be, and what do you think it should be.

I doubt America would ask Israel to help, we would take care of our own business.

Arab Spring = U.S. (et al) support = Egyptian Rebels = Egytpian government overthrown = Muslim Brotherhood President

Wait a minute.....Hamas charter:

Article Two: The Link between Hamas and the Association of Muslim Brothers. The Islamic Resistance Movement is one of the wings of the Muslim Brothers in Palestine.

http://www.thejerusalemfund.org/www.thejerusalemfund.org/carryover/documents/charter.html

Charter also calls for the destruction of Israel.

I wonder what the Secretary of State is discussing with her Deputy Chief of Staff about the recent events between Israel and Hamas:

Although President Obama lavishly praised her over the weekend as an "American patriot," a manifesto commissioned by the ruling Saudi Arabian monarchy effectively places the work of an institute that employed Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's deputy chief of staff at the forefront of a grand plan to mobilize U.S. Muslim minorities to transform America into a Saudi-style Islamic state, according to an Arabic-language researcher.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/manifesto-puts-hillary-chief-in-saudi-plot/

I doubt America would ask Israel to help, we would take care of our own business.

ahh where did Israel ask us to help them, you think they cant handle Gaza? the problem1)hypothetically that if a Caribbean nation starting shooting 20 rockets a day at us we would be able to handle it but Israel couldn't without our help. 2) when Israel does handle it there will be all this outcry because all those "innocents" that fraternize with and allow the terrorists to hide among them will be collateral damage. But when we do it with a drone that is ok. Guess what in both cases it is ok. If you don't want to be associated with, or killed with terrorists, don't fraternize with them.

FreeThinker-657099

Yes, this is political, but its roots stem from the worship of imaginary men.

Have you ever seen Abe Lincoln? ... well of course you haven't he was way before your time. But of course I would say you even admire what you have heard and read about him. Some people would say they even worship him.

Now, how is this a bad thing? What errors of humanity and/or world events does this admiration/worship exhort?

Any society will fight to protect what they believe in, what they stand for if it is threatened by an outside source.

Your code language of "imaginary men" was a thin veil for putting God on trial for causing wars between people. People don't fight because of another persons belief in God, they fight when they think their right to worship him themselves is threatened, or the land where they live to worship him is threatened.

But I do respect your right to be a free thinker and provocateur of God's right to exist.

Paging President Obama, Paging President Obama has anyone seem President Obama the Muslim Brotherhood on the phone. Oh he's on a photo op in New York.

@allenjames - and what exactly does President Obama have to do with this? He put out the oil well fire in the gulf. Can't this guy get any respect?

He has to earn my respect so far he's failed, and what he has to do this they see he is weak and just like the four Americans in Libya he'll turn his back on Israel as well that's what a Muslim does.

That's the spirit.

It's not over till we say it's over.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Tweets

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

I sure hope that is sarcasm! LOL

Evening Jack..Was somewhat perplexed by "the Germans bombing Pearl Harbour"...certainly news to me..Hope all is well your way as it is here across the Pacific...

Every religion is false.

Islam is a disease. It is a false religion that has been perpetrated on the Muslim people. Satan is alive and well on planet Earth, and Islam is his religion.

Wow! I thought it was Judaism that had its start in Babylon during the so-called Babylonian Captivity.

ahh finally! a real headline from MSN about the the whole israe/palestine thing. you finally FINALLY reported about israelis being killed. good for you! now maybe you can lay off the whole anti-semite/pro-palestinian crap you always write and start being more neutral.

The quote about Pearl Harbor is from Natl Lampoon's Animal House, directed by John Landis (Jewish)

Good Morning here in Barbados Shona! Good Evening/Night in your neck of the woods!

Yes, sometimes I see that Tweets sends little things like that and after reading some he is spot on and others with a trace of sarcasm and I find it hilarious!

Gidday Jack..Yep just gone past 10pm Thursday night here and I am heading for bed...been a long day...what are you doing in Barbados, on holidays??? If so, hope you have a great time and safe travels...Hoo roo for now..

Wow! I never knew reading the Vine could be so educational. In just the first two comments I learned Eric Cantor is secretly the Senate minority leader and the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

I want my money back from the history teacher that lied to me for all these years.

Good grief!

I'm changing news stories now before I find out the Chinese planted the first flag on the moon back in 1969.

If war breaks out in the middle east, does that make Obummer the anti-christ? Just wondering....

rockmebritney

ahh finally! a real headline from MSN about the the whole israe/palestine thing. you finally FINALLY reported about israelis being killed. good for you! now maybe you can lay off the whole anti-semite/pro-palestinian crap you always write and start being more neutral.

Wow Britney, head in the sand much ?

Did the story report about the 8 Palestinian civilians killed by the Israeli attacks (Including 3 children and one pregnant woman) ?

Do they report about the 21 Israeli civilians killed by Hamas attacks in the last 10 years in contrast to the over 1500 Palestinian CHILDREN killed by Israeli attacks since 2000 ?

Both sides are wrong for their violence and killing of innocent civilians, but to think and believe Palestine is the sole aggressor, and Israel is just defending themselves is ridiculous when you have ALL the information.

Israel needs to be taken down a few pegs from their self-entitled, arrogant pedestal. They have nukes and an army. The U.S. should drop its aid and let the warmongers duke it out. We should never have interfered in the middle east. The Taliban never would have existed, and extremists never could have warped the very peaceful religion of islam into a war tool. Western civilization did this. Arrogance did this. Now let humility undo it.

Jack,

Tweets

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

I sure hope that is sarcasm! LOL

It's from the movie 1941

Ray, here is the bottom line , you and the Pali's are just pawns for the Arabs, and the MB to use as they control their countries with an iron fist. Syria burning, 10's of thousands killed, yet Iran, and Eygypt and Naressrallah set up shop with Hezbahah,and Hamas, Lob bombs into Israel, and the Pali's pay the price.The media, shifts gears right to Israel, and the Arab Leauge calls another emergency meeting.The funnest is when comments like mis approprate retailation by Israel. No not enough, stop messing with Israel, build up Gaza into a beautiful place, with great beaches, and your women wearing bikini's with cool burkas and enjoy what you have. Eygypt should open their borders to Gaza, and free trade, and vacation in the Hilton that was built. But, no, Arab country wants that, as it will shine a light onto all the abuse, and corruption of their people.Recently on CNBC, a Saudi Prince was on, and he has a large stake in Bank of America. When asked about the Bank, and problems, didn't mention, mismanagement, Greed, guess what he said is the biggest issue, The Israeli -Pali problem, Now we can't be that stupid to believe that, oh wait....

Ray, sorry, my bad, I meant Ralph, and now going to add Patrick, as he wants to turn back time to a simplier era, before color TV.

Animal house not 1941, but J B is in both.

I am curious to know why Ralph H's post was collapsed, unless someone has discovered that the quotes he cited were bogus. Anyone?

Ralph H is well known for his virulent anti-Israel sentiments Eric. He repeatedly quotes reams and reams of 'stuff' denigrating those of Jewish extraction, which is his right I suppose.

I must say I was a little suprised that he came out of the woodwork on this occasion without his trusty deputy Henrich von Dorf riding shotgun.

The pair of them are usually on the trail together, as I'm sure Mossad is well aware.

FOUR!!!!!!

Question: If 245 rockets were fired into the United States from Mexico would you want a military response?

The progressive apologists for the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas seem to think Israel is the aggressor. They have learned over the years overwhelming response is the only defense against a people who plot their very destruction and want to commit genocide against the Israeli's. I just wonder how tolerant the progressives would actually be given their hateful and antisemitic comments if they were the target of this kind of daily murder for no reason?

notsure,

America does not keep millions in a large prison camp attached the southern border. Their only crime would have been living in and owning Texas.

Precisely, ED. . . " for no reason?", queried the previous poster. The analogy Israel : Palestine as USA : Mexico is not apples to apples. More like pineapples : hand grenades!

I believe Israel started this war, so why are you blaming the victims who have lost thousands of times the number of children and civilians as Israel? You do know israel is built on stolen land correct?

Patrick,

Believe what you want...history tells a different story going back before the kingdom of Babylon. Israel was a nation long before there was any talk of a people called the Palestinians who are not actually a race but a group of malcontents that have been thrown out of other nations. Read the history on their origins and see the truth.

Must not be alot of hunters on this vine. Noone likes my joke.lol

Well one person did.

Patrick, you are correct. The Ottoman Empire should lodge a complaint with the UN to get it's land back.

Coral,

You are on a very liberal site. Most likely there will not be a lot of hunters. However, I am a hunter and I loved your joke. I am applying for a tag as we speak.

@corky; Thank ya!

Maybe you can pick it up at the wal mart in Tel Aviv. Happy hunting! You can hang their broken rocket launcher on the wall as your "trophy".lol

Corky, Coral, I don't hunt, but let's all go on safari to gaza, I can make an exception:)

No Democrat president has ever taken us into a war we weren't forced into. Israel doesn't have the leverage, and nor do the U.S. citizenry have the desire to support it. If the middle east descends into all-out war with Israel, so be it. They stewed in their arrogance long enough anyway.

You are a moron. Isreal is hit with missiles almost every day from the surrounding Muslim countries and when they finally have had enough they strike back to try to halt the missile attacks you are upset.

I wonder how long you would stand and do nothing if someone slapped you in the face? Then slapped again, and again, and again. I don't believe anyone would stand and do nothing yet you in your infinite wisdom seem to believe Isreal is the agressor. Wake up moron.

When did Israel drag the U.S. into war? Do you mean the SAUDI's? They were afraid of Iraq and we didn't want to lose our gasoline.

Iraq was payback for Hussein embarassing Bush's dad and a way for Cheney's friends, Haliburton, to make a few billion dollars

Afghanistan is a windfall for JP Morgan as they and the Chinese mine for gold and resources while our military provides security

What did Israel get out of these wars ?

when has isreal ever dragged the US into war?

jw - Israel is supposed to get the TAPI gas pipeline, which will transport Israeli owned gas from Turkmenistan to Afghanistan to Pakistan and on to India. That is the big reason we had 9/11, the excuse to go to Afgnaistan and rid it of the Taliban, who opposed the TAPI pipeline.

Oil companies proposed the pipeline in 1995, but
it dropped off their agenda after the Taliban took control of Afghanistan the
following year. The plan was revived after the United States-led invasion of
Afghanistan in 2001, and received backing from the Asian Development Bank,
which financed feasibility studies.

Iran can
sell gas to India at a third the price of Turkmenistan. This is the ENTIRE
issue. In Turkmenistan Israel holds the lease rights to sell this gas and US
companies are building the pipeline called TAPI. This has gotten Iran upset and
that is what the whole reason for petroleum sanctions. We have US military
holding the Taliban at bay in the North all the while prince and his private
paramilitary mercenary forces are executing pipeline security privately in the
South to lend some sort of propriety to this whole sham of a war. Americans
should demand presidential head on a platter for this fraud. Deni-ability is
everything.

www.rense.com/general15/game.htmCached - Similar

On December 11, a
preliminary agreement was signed in Turkmenistan’s capital, Ashgabat, by
representatives of the four countries to proceed with plans for the American
and Israeli-backed pipeline. Here are the basic points about the TAPI pipeline:

Construction of
pipeline will be completed by 2014 (▼)

1,680 kilometer gas
pipeline will supply 3.2 billion cubic feet of natural gas per day (much of
this gas will come from Israeli/Mossad-owned gas fields in Turkmenistan,
meaning immense profits for the Mossadniks who pulled of 9/11)............►The Obama
administration, elected on the promise to withdraw U.S. troops by July 2011,
now says the U.S. will maintain combat troops in Afghanistan until December
2014. On December 17, the House passed a defense authorization bill (by a
341-48 vote) that authorizes the Pentagon to spend more than $160 billion on
the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2011 without major restrictions on the
conduct of operations. Why are U.S. (and NATO) troops being kept in Afghanistan
for another 4 years? What's really going on there? What is the cost and who is
involved in this game??

The real
reason for the U.S. invasion and occupation of Afghanistan is to build and
secure a 1,080-mile long gas pipeline designed to carry trillions of dollars of
Israeli-owned gas from Turkmenistan to Pakistan and India. You could ask how
come Turkmenistans gas could be Israeli-owned, here is the answer:

Following the
break-up of the Soviet Union, Israeli agents sought to gain control of the
strategic assets of the newly independent Soviet republics. In mineral-rich
Turkmenistan, a Mossad agent named Yosef A. Maiman was very successful in
gaining control of the republic's immense resources of natural gas. Yosef
Maiman, born in Germany in 1946, grew up in Peru and studied in the United
States before becoming an Israeli citizen in 1971. As an agent of Israeli
intelligence, Maiman heads a network of Mossad-controlled companies that serve
Israeli interests. As the chief executive of the Merhav Group, Maiman has
controlled the development of Turmenistan's gas resources. Maiman's key
colleagues at Merhav are the former head of the Mossad, Shabtai Shavit, and
Nimrod Novik, chief adviser to Shimon Peres, the current president of Israel.

Maiman was described
as "a leading miner" of Central Asian gas fields by the Jerusalem
Post in 2004. Given their control of the immense gas resources of Turkmenistan,
Maiman, Merhav, and the "Mossad" would all profit if and when the
U.S.-led coalition were able to "pacify" and control Afghanistan so
that the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India (TAPI) gas pipeline could be
built allowing the gas of Turkmenistan to be sold to energy-hungry India . The TAPI pipeline
project would bring billions of dollars into "Mossad" coffers every
year. This is the real reason for the war in Afghanistan and why the
Zionist-controlled Obama administration has increased the war effort in Central
Asia. It has nothing to do with terrorism or 9-11.

Now you
can easily understand why there was need for the "justification" of
this war, which was planned before the 9/11
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1550366.stm). The false-flag terror
attacks of 9/11 were part of a strategic Israeli operation to bring the U.S.
military into Afghanistan on a long-term mission on behalf of Israel’s Turkmen
gas enterprise. The Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India (TAPI) pipeline is
the real reason that U.S. soldiers are killing and dying in the southwestern
Afghan provinces of Helmand and Kandahar. 9/11 was just the cover story for
this pre-planned war of aggression - and it is nothing but a complete hoax.

Now you know that Israel had much to gain from 9/11 and the war in Afghanistan.

You speak with authority, Ralph. If what you say is true, I have to wonder if these revelations would result in greater destabilization, more unrest, more cynicism about our govt. and its foreign policy, to say nothing of sparking the ME tinderbox into WWIII. Talk about an inconvenient truth!

RalphH

The tinfoil hat becomes you...you made sense until the False flag op courtesy of Israel.

What in the world are you even talking about? Your information could not be more false. I just laugh when "experts" like you who have never even been here, probably never even met an Israeli, start spouting off at the mouth. As someone living in Ashkelon, I can tell you with certainty that the bombs are raining down on us and they come from Gaza. Go to the IDF website, the news, even personal videos posted on youtube and you can see plenty of footage of missiles coming in. Nobody here doutbs for a second where they come from, we see them coming in! Secondly, Netanyahu (that is how you spell his name) has not defunded the Iron Dome project. Nor would our govt release info on how many we have or where they are exactly, as that is it not a smart thing to do, would you not agree? Right now Iron Dome is the one thing making life livable here. It is the BEST tax money I have ever spent, hands down. Thirdly, whether there is an election or not, Netanyahu is responding to an escalation of fire from Gaza including an attack over a week ago that injured 4 soldiers - one who lost an arm and will be crippled for the rest of his life. Before Israel killed (cleanly and surgically I might add, unlike what Gaza does to us) Jabari there had been a week of steady missile fire - over 100 in just a few days. So no matter how much conspiracy you'd like to make up or how you want to spin it, those are the facts.

I would say with 99% certainty that you are kidding yourself. Other branches are firing into Israel, not Hamas themselves, Israel is holding Hamas to account no matter who fired the rockets, they have been told this prior to the attacks on their leaders.

Your post is rife with paranoid delusions. I do not say this lightly.

I think you misspelled your name. Shouldn't it be spelled "M-O-R-O-N"?

Going back to [Actually Israelis report it in ambiguous words: "three killed by direct hit"]

I just checked the distance from Kiriat Malakhi, town where 3 Israelis were killed by "direct hit", and Gaza.

It looks more than 20 kilometers, though civilian maps are very imprecise.

Based on media reports Hamas rockets range, usually, limited to 20.

Even if media reports on Hamas armaments are "spotty" if you check communities oft reported under attack. those are well within range of 10 kilometers.

Not one independent journalist is reporting on the ground to verify who launched the rocket that killed Israelis.

Let's, for the sake of argument, assume for a moment that I am paranoid and such... have you ever seeing this level of un - professional reporting coming from Israel in conflicts?

Just one fact regarding normal Israeli conduct, when 40 people died in tragic explosion in one house in Lebanon in June of 2006 Israel sent in UAV to collect evidence, as to what have caused an explosion and to have verifiable information regarding casualties and the timings.

Again, to compare, 6 hours since the tragedi in Kiriat Malakhi today, not one independent reporter index touched the place where any clearly thinking man would have valid reasons to suspect that the tragedy could have being result of IDF own fire. At least to debunk such a possibility.

Hey Moran1

Why don't you head over there and send us some pictures?

@miron;

Islamist Hamas was not firing into Israel. Now they are involved, but other factions working independent of them were firing into Israel earlier int the week . This does not matter to Israel the Islamist Hamas is in charge, and they are being held accountable.

Hamas was trying to have more stability in Gaza to show Egypt they can maintain stability. They have no control over other factions, now they are in the fight because of accountabiltiy to control the Gaza and these other factions.

You call others liars and me white trash. This shows you lack integrity, and disregard all other opinions except your own.

To even suggest the IDF fired on their own people is ludicrous. This is truly a paranoid delusion.

"And your company of white trash "Coral"

Miron, are you a proud racist?

Leslie, while I agree with you to an extent, your government is killing civilians and destroying lives on the other side on a much larger scale.

You speak about life in Israel while under attack, do you consider life for a Palestinian civilian while under attack from Israeli military ? I've seen footage of both, and while nobody should have to live under that threat and fear, it's MUCH worse on the other side of the fence for those people.

21 Israeli's have been killed by Hamas attacks in the last 10 years. Close to 1500 CHILDREN alone have been killed by Israeli attacks since 2000.

All those lives are valuable, Israeli and Palestinian civilians alike. But to pretend your government is innocent and just responding and defending is naive.

You call others liars and me white trash. This shows you lack integrity, and disregard all other opinions except your own.

Covering up for Hamas terrorists is just pure unadultrated trash.

That's not an opinion. It's an objective reflection on your trash talk.

As for the "white trash" that goes with your occupation of "talk it louder" to whoever pays the pauper.

@miron;

Then prove me wrong because I am not. I am against Hamas ,and I quit defending the West bank after they reuntited with them. Other factions started this not the Hamas in charge of Gaza, of course now they are fighting because Israel is holding them acountable, and I do not blame Israel as Islamist Hamas needs to control their own people from targeting Israel.

Instead of proving me wrong you resort to insults. Face it your integrity is lost here. You are backpedaling on your words, too late.

The assault on Gaza will be "renewed" in the coming hours, Haaretz quotes an IDF source as saying, and the Israeli military leadership has "approved plans for the next stage of the operation."

It is unclear whether "the next stage" refers to ground action, intensified air and naval strikes or another mode of attack.

Updated 6:16pm GMT

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/15/israel-gaza-militants-deadly-exchanges-live?intcmp=239

and this: From and IDF Captain ....disgusting

The IDF continues its remarkable social media campaign: "haters gonna hate":

@captainbarakraz the haters gonna keep on hating.

— Peter Lerner (@MajPeterLerner) November 15, 2012

5.26pm GMT

IDF officer Avichay Adraee tweets a picture of IDF ground forces making preparations on the Gaza "perimeter" in what looks like an early morning or late afternoon shot.

صورة:جيش الدفاع يبدأ بحشد قوات برية في محيط قطاع #غزة في اطار عملية #عامود_السحاب twitter.com/AvichayAdraee/…

— افيخاي ادرعي (@AvichayAdraee) November 15, 2012

Looks like the Palestinians will be enclosed, denied medical supplies from Red Crescent (Red Cross here), they have had water restrictions for years as the Israelis drained the large aquifer under Gaza.

The common people of both Israel and Gaza do not want their families killed - why does Netanyahu want it so much? Ex Mossad leader Dier thinks he is crazy (Netanyahu)

Sorry for the strange symbols above - it appears that NV or NBC does not allow tweets that are in Arabic.

tyler

I think you misspelled your name. Shouldn't it be spelled "M-O-R-O-N"?

And your company of white trash "Coral" is as impressive as a pile of dung.

HONESTJ, Miron1, you're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.

Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

#6.15 - Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:22 PM EST

Hey "Tzar" Tyler,

what part of it did you find in violation of the following rule:

Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

If you aren't sure what White Trash means, here is Wikipedia:

"white trash" emphasizes the person's moral failings.

There is nothing disrespectfull about it. And if you keep taking sides with people who act in gangs on this forum, swatting on information they deem undesired by using slurs, defamation, and name calling I will include you in this pile of dung, face forward.

Your tool of being a moderator is a great advantage, but the site gives advantage to the user by offering me as many accounts as I deem nesessary to fight for my words. So, be carefull how you use it. You have unlimited money, I got brains.

Next time if you do not want to get in this fight at least have a decency to quote a complete message I posted.

Leslie-2501509

What in the world are you even talking about? Your information could not be more false. I just laugh when "experts" like you who have never even been here, probably never even met an Israeli, start spouting off at the mouth. As someone living in Ashkelon, I can tell you with certainty that the bombs are raining down on us and

1. Netaneyahoo blocked and defunded Iron Dome building

-- there is additional information regarding this point.

-- I was caught on a lie ( I admit it! ). Over the past 4 years in office Netaneyahoo did add Iron Dome battery.

-- Exactly 1 ( one ) Iron Dome battery.

-- Going back 4 years, Livni / Olmert ( previous PM duo ) built 4 of those as a pilot, with no blueprints or funding in 8 months ( don't you think there is at least a bit of a difference? Eh? )

-- So, your question "Nor would our govt release info on how many we have or where they are exactly, as that is it not a smart thing to do, would you not agree?"

-- I will let answer Israeli PM himself, freshly out of PM Office ( Israelis call PMO ).

-- "To strengthen Israel we have funded an additional Iron Dome battery. Its deployment will be expedited. Right now the battery is deployed on in a test military installation. Instead of deploying it in 2 months, as was originally planned I will request our governemtn and IDF deploys it in the next 2 weeks."

-- Why don't you square this one away with your government of Israel, Leslie. Why don't you also find a normal PM who

a. agrees with your stated principle of "release info on how many we have or where they are exactly, as that is it not a smart thing to do". Or would you prefer all Mirons shut up while said PM sits in high office and does as he/she pleases without being critisized ( again, unless you and the Co' say so? )

and

b. builds Iron Dome ( at least with the speed of Olmert / Livni? )

2. He received vote of no confidence in Knesset

3. media denies video evidence of rocket fire from Gaza dating 24 hours back

4. IDF high command denied attack on Iran

What part of it do you find paranoid? You want to win it by slapping yarmulka in my face?

I am talking about "the world" we are living in. Your are laughin in the face of facts.

The IDF started this war, and they should fight it alone without U.S. aid.

pat93...IDF started nothing. As far as fighting it alone, don't worry about that, pres O will offer no support.

Oh yeah - The IDF is a bunch of yellow cowards, who will only fight when they are attacking unarmed women and children. The IDF is a poor excuse for a military, who was whipped by a smaller force of Hezbollah fighters in Lebanon. Israel has done their job, keeping the Palestinians unarmed, so their chicken s-t war heros can come back as victors, unlike when they came home from Lebanon as whipped dogs.

What a load of bollocks...

Get real would ya!

Ralph, as usual thank you for you usual expert military observations regarding Israel! (note sarcasm) Oh, by the way, how does hundreds of rockets coming across from Gaza into Israeli residential areas (despite a cease fire/truce that both Hamas and Israel agreed to) over a few days time constitute unarmed Palestinians? And don't tell me it was in retaliation because Israel knocked off a Hamas militant commander. That happened after the rocket firing started which started the initial response by Israel. Both sides are wrong here and have to step back. There's enough blood on the hands of both sides already. Israel and Hamas both just need to step back now!

Hey moped!!!

I don't know what you are reading but, your tirades seem to indicate a less than average understanding of history and the current events of the region. Please read more completely and from multiple sources to get a better understanding of what is going on here and why. You don’t have to agree with any of it to at least acknowledge the facts without prejudice

Your paint brush is too broad.

Not only that, Moped, but this:

Iranians are NOT a Semitic - much less a Semantic - people. They are, in fact, the original Aryans. The words 'Aryan' and 'Iran' are actually cognate.

Ironically enough, the bulk of Israel's population, hailing as they do from the largely Eastern European countries of the Jewish Diaspora, cannot claim Semitic ancestry either, even though they speak a Semitic language. After all, Americans speak a Germanic language, even though only a small percentage of us claim German ancestry. The Arabs, Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, Jordanians, Iraqis, and Egyptians are Semitic peoples. The Israelis (and Turks and Iranians) are, for the most part, not. Thus the term 'anti-Semitic' has to rank as one of the cruelest misnomers of all time. Given their harsh, tyrannical treatment of their Palestinian 'citizens', one could argue that the Israelis - and not their Arab neighbors - are the true anti-Semites! Oy, Adolph, what were you thinking!?

Now there is a good example of SEMANTICS!

Moped,

War is no longer fought for any sort of necessity -

With all of the terrorist groups that border Israel, like Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, the al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade and more, and the rest of the Muslims who hate everything that is not Muslim, I think the Israelis use their military to ensure their own survival as a nation and a people. Survival is a necessity. The Muslims must stop transforming their hatred into terror and murder. They don't have to like the Israelis, just leave them the f*ck alone.

Would you care to provide your input:

How would you behave and how would your family behave if your neighbor

• Invaded your community constantly,

• Blockaded supplies into the region - staving you and your loved ones,

• Occasionally rained down explosive mechanical death onto your city,

• Was sitting on top of a large pile of Nuclear Missiles,

• Is just bristling with guns, tanks, bullets, bombs, machine guns,

• Even when you try to -work- with them and make peace, they seem to somehow magically sabotage every single effort one way or another,

• Does not seem to give a s__— if you live or die.

Tell me, how would you feel? Would you feel at all threatened?

Would you want to rush up to these people and shake their hands, give them flowers?

Would you want to be "best friends" with them, and make up and be friends?

Moped - Ah- to answer your question honestly, I would have to guess that you are looking for HonestJ to say, Israel. Israel seems to have a vast nuclear arsonal and a thirst for territory that does not beling to them. They also tend to kill unwanted Arabs at will and do not care very much for a two state solution. All this by the grace of Allah! Israel is a strong nation because that is the will of Allah. The murderous cult of Islam has been praying to Allah for 64 plus years for the destruction of Israel, and Allah keeps making Israel even stronger. Praise be to Allah and her glorious VAGINA. Long Live Israel!!!!!!

Peace to you and a piece for me. Amen!

Moped, just because you YELL doesn't make it so.

Let's try an experiment: Tell your buddies to stop lobbing the missiles into Israel and let's see how long it takes for Israel to get bored and go blow up some Muslims.

Being right, however, does make it so CC. And he's saying that israel is to blame.

Question: If 245 rockets were fired into the United States from Mexico would you want a military response?

The progressive apologists for the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas seem to think Israel is the aggressor. They have learned over the years overwhelming response is the only defense against a people who plot their very destruction and want to commit genocide against the Israeli's. I just wonder how tolerant the progressives would actually be given their hateful and antisemitic comments if they were the target of this kind of daily murder for no reason?

By the way tell me a people that has experianced the level of hatred and genocide over the generations like the Jews / Israeli's? If you had that in your history would you respond as they do to protect themselves and their nation?

• I like how every single one of my posts, despite repeated "Thumbs Up" ratings, were "collapsed by the community.

• Wouldn't want any of those facts getting out, would we?

• Who has the largest stock pile of nuclear weapons in the region - yet refuses to sign the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty?

• Who stormed Gaza and used Children has human shields while at the same time leaving a trail of human bodies with precise well-aimed shots to their foreheads - indicating executions?

• Who exactly is building Settlements on land that doesn't legally belong to them while bulldozing homes that still contain living people in them?

• Exactly who occasionally bombs sovereign nations based on evidence that was utterly proven to be nonsense down the road?

• Exactly who has torpedoed every single UN effort of Palestine to be recognized by the United Nations - therefore giving it legal representation and protection in the United Nations?

• Who gave up on the "Two-State Solution" and seems to be determined to utterly starve and push out the "dirty Arabs?"

• Would you care to pontificate on Theodor Herzl's Altneuland ... ?

• How much land did the UN Mandate provide to the Israeli people - and how much land did they end up with?

Go ahead and COLLAPSE my comments.

All this proves is you've got Nothing.

And -this- is why the majority of the UN is a little ANGRY at Israel and the United States.

Because you people pull stuff like this.

Claiming that Israel is acting out of "self defense" is like saying I'm "defending myself" when I Air Strike my neighbor after his kid threw a rock at my car.

THAT's your "reason" for Israel doing the things it does?

Pardon me - If my understanding of History is correct, the Arabs owned that bit of land LONG before the Israelis showed up.

Correct me if I'm wrong. Who immigrated to where?

Anyone here care to talk about the Israeli Terrorists groups that actively drove the Arabs from Israeli? ... Zionism? The deliberate effort to claim that land for the Jews that created hundreds of thousands of Arab refugees? ...

No? That's not real history because you say it's not history with your big expensive News Outlet?..

Except that if you talk to anyone who actually studied this stuff - it's a bit harder to convince people with Lies?

...

Or am I just a "sympathizer" and a "Terrorist lover" cause I happen to know a little bit about history and I'm not part of the Borg Collective that repeats the same tired Record-Recording that bashes anyone who dares to resist being run over a by a Steam Roller that is "Israeli Foreign Relations" ...?

I don't hate Israeli.

Maybe that was so. ... in the fu_king DARK AGES.

But the fact of the matter is ... that you can only "tell so many lies" and try to steal so much "gold and silver" from the goy. ...

Even the Jewish people don't seem to support the Israeli government anymore - because it's -obsessed- with war. ... because it's -obsessed- with lying about everything to the point that it operates in some sort of reality Vacuum.

And the really sad thing is that if Israel would just -stop- arming itself to the teeth, would show just an inkling of legitimate GOOD WILL ... by sending FOOD, and TEACHERS, and -LOVE- to their "enemies" ... maybe their ENEMIES would stop being their enemies.

If M.A.D. kicks in, we are ALL dead. ... and either you people can CHOSE to keep pushing this "Divide Everyone against Everyone" attitude ... or you can learn to COOPERATE and LOVE each-other and drop this OLD WORLD concept that should have -died- fifty years ago.

THAT'S what this all boils down to.

Projected LONG TERM survival of HUMANITY, not just the JEWS vs. the "GOY" ... okay?

Stop -INVENTING- what you WANT TO SEE or what you WANT TO HAPPEN ... and LOOK AT WHAT IS HAPPENING.

JEWISH reproduction rates are DOWN - they are not HIGH ENOUGH to sustain the race.

ARAB and MUSLIM reproduction rates are TEN TIMES that of what they need to be to survive. They will OUT NUMBER virtually -everyone- with enough time.

WHITE AMERICAN'S birth rates are DOWN. They will be surpassed by MINORITIES within approximately ten-to-twenty years.

THAT's the long term future ahead of you folks. And it's a result of your "leaders" clinging to some Dark Age mentality that should have been brushed into the dust bin of history long ago - but wasn't and was in fact -preserved- by a Cabal of completely insane dinosaurs.

If you people plan on surviving or preserving your race, I would -professionally- recommend a serious ATTITUDE ADJUSTMENT of your "supreme leaders" ...

Because it is overtly apparently that they don't seem to have their heads on straight these days.

HONESTJ and others, one should never try to argue logic and common sense with narrow minded myopic hatemongers like Moped. It is an exercise in futility and thus not worth it! They have the mistaken impression that by using enlarged and/or bold faced lettering, people will pat attention to them. They can't figure out that the reverse is actually true!

It is obvious that Moped has one hit one too many walls while riding his moped in Gaza. He is not an American and is still living in 'The Dark Ages'. His writing reflects about a 3rd century mentality. As long as gullible Muslims keep strapping on suicide vests ( population control device) they will not take over anything.

Moped

Calm down, take your family out for a nice dinner and compliment your wife and kids.

If you are still angry later, look at your cell phone and electric bills. These items should keep you busy for a while.

Moped

WOW you carry on a one sided conversation which I presume means you never never ever ever listen to anyone else about anything. Well, carry on because no one is listening to you anymore because you rant and rant and rant.

Hey moped!!!

I don't know what you are reading but, your tirades seem to indicate a less than average understanding of history and the current events of the region. Please read more completely and from multiple sources to get a better understanding of what is going on here and why. You don't have to agree with any of it to at least acknowledge the facts without prejudice

Your paint brush is too broad.

Just have one question? What the heck is a GOY?

Why is it that the anti-islamist come up with most of the facts and that most of the pro-islamist just come up with insults.

It makes you wonder.

Hans Are you kidding. Isreal has a blockade in effect and the people can't get anything. That's why they're pissed.

Mary Jones 1616541 - Ah ---- They are pissed because they like to be pissed. The only path to 74 virgins is to dia in Jihad. Take war away from a muslim and then he is really pissed.

Larue Lindsay, since you obviously know nothing about Islam, you should stick to a topic you actually know something about. This isn't it.

Mary Jones, it appears to me that one of Gaza's borders is the ocean. About 25 miles of ocean front. Is Israel blocking their shipping too?

Those poor Palestinians, while completely backed by all Arabs and their big oil money and their "Death to Israel" rants, they still cannot win a war or gain any of "their" land back. It appears to me that Palestine is about to get smaller again and Israel may get ocean front property. To the victor go the spoils. It is always a good practice to never start a fight you cannot win. I really feel sorry for these people as they are too unintelligent, uniformed or being lied to by their government to realize they are being used by a terrorist organization and all of their Arab brothers.

Superskunk -- Actually, I know a lot about Islam as I am the New and Improved Prophet of Allah "PutPorkOnYourFork" is my Muslim name and I spent 40 days and 40 nights inside Allah's vagina learning all about the will of Allah. She told me herself that Mohammed got it all wrong and that he was never a real prophet, but just another sex crazed maniac who likes to have sex with children of both sexes.

Praise be to Allah and her glorious Vagina

Seven, that is horribly ignorant. Yemen, the Israelis, started this war years ago, not the muslims. Israel has become arrogant and warmongering and should collapse for such atrocities they impart onto innocent civilians.

Larue, so you've now proven two things to me.

#1 - You know absolutely nothing about islam.

#2 - You need to work on your material, cause it's not even remotely comical.

I'm the first one to point out a good bit of humor, even if I disagree with someone, and/or the humor is inappropriate. But you're attempt at humor is horrendous.

Patrick, when you randomly (not at a military target) fire a rocket into another country, you cease to be able to call yourself a civilian. Apparently none of these people are civilized. No one has the right to fire upon someone without provocation and then cry when they receive return fire. Your children's blood is on your own hands.

You drive your car with reckless abandon and hit a tree. Your child dies in the accident. You blame the company that built the car? Or was it the tree's fault?

"Their" land.

Anyone here care to take a wild guess as to who Owned that land or occupied it before the Israeli people began immigrating there in Waves shortly after the wars?

Also, anyone care to talk about the United Nations Mandate or the British Annexation? ...

What's this about who owned what land?

I mean please, indulge me.

Give me a history lesson.

Who was there first?

Nope...... not really Moped,... not really, but Im sure U will impose your post's on us anyway....

Um Mary Jones, OK, try this one, ready. Eygypt is on the other side of Gaza. Why do they limit access to Gaza, OK May Jones go.... silence,.... answer, cause they don't want them either!!!

Moped -

The Canaanites. Go find some. And they took it from other unnamed peoples.

Then it was the Jews. They were forcibly expelled by the Babylonians, returned, and then were expelled again by the Romans.

I'm not going to bother getting into a history lesson with you, you'd deny it anyway. And you are not worth the time or the effort. You and those who think like you are to be ignored and impeded. Just enjoy the fact that the Jewish homeland lives, prospers despite your most fervent desires, and will continue to receive the complete support of myself and those who think like me, regardless of the existence of those such as yourself.

As you wish Moped....

Land of Canaan-Ancient Canaan (8th millennium BCE-1000BCE) Judea (900BCE-135CE) Syria Palaestina/Palestine (135CE-1948CE) Israel/Palestine(1948-present)

NOTE: The Roman Emperor Hadrian named the region Syria Palaestina after the ancient name of Philistia following the Jewish revolt in an attempt to remove any Jewish connection.

NOTE: The Philistines that lived in Philistia (modern day Gaza strip, plus a little) are not thought to be of Semite origin meaning they are not Arabs or Israelis.

A. Bennett, Let's be fair here, Israel does not exclude men in their bombardment of Arabs, They are just as willing to kill men as much as women and children when it comes to Arabs. Are you suggesting that this is a bad thing?

The cult of Islam has been attacking Israel for 64 years now and this will never stop as long as Jihad is the only path to paradise, or until Israel decides to get tough and put an end to the evil-doers who worship a false prophet.

Praise be to Allah and her glorious vagina.

Israel attacked first you ignorant child.

no, it didn't you, ignorant SOB

isreal is constantly attacked by hamas ( a US recognized terrorist group). These people want the US and Isreal wiped off the face of the earth. Seriously why do you support them? they paraded in the street after 9/11

>>Seriously why do you support them? they paraded in the street after 9/11<<

Because it's very sensitive and PC to support the guy that says he is down due to some "oppressor". It probably got his girl to say 'yes' because he is such a sensitive man. . .

The liberals love the self-said downtrodden. If you said someone was oppressing you they'd jump on your bandwagon too, in the hopes of 'looking nice' and being PC!

Moped, my friend and intellectual confrere, you may as well give it up. You will never convince your antagonists on this site to confront history objectively, much less give any credence to a post-9/11 Muslim apologist. As much as I admire your courage in persisting with this history lesson, you should realize you are preaching to a very Christian - and American and ignorant - choir, one that delights in singing the same tired hymns and hosannas over and over and over. . . Sholom Aleichem

Israel attacked them first long ago and started this war, and now they starve the palestinians while conquering more territory, tearing it down, and rebuilding it for the Israeli populace. Israel should be convicted of war crimes. And we should drop all federal aid to Israel until they cool off and start being diplomatic again.

Spoken like a true Hamas supporter. The people of Gaza elected a Hamas government and this is THEIR government at work. They need to carry the dead children to the nearest Hamas government office. If Israel attacked like Hamas there would be many more non-Hamas killed. If anyone voices support for Hamas, they are fools!!

Fredom,

Both sides are equally as bad, and to blame for this ongoing violence. Playing tit4tat is a never ending circle....

I like playing that game with my girlfriends. I give them "tat" and they give me......

"Tit4Tat" is, actually, an extremely elaborate and effective theory which ultimately eliminates Hostile and Overly Aggressive parties while rewarding and promoting cooperation and inter-personal relationships.

It's a theory that you don't seem to understand or know much about.

Wrong freedom, there is no moral or legal equivalence between the sides - one is right and one is wrong.

The Jews are right, the Arabs are wrong. Not a debatable point.

The Arabs are not wrong. Yes Israel is there to stay. But I cant blame the Arabs not liking it. Not because im against Jewish people. I just see it from all sides. How would your react if the UN took your state and gave it to someone? And kicked you to a reservation basically, and then set up blockade.

More needs to be done for the Palestinians, if you take their land they need fair compensation.

Sensi23, ---The israeli strikes of yesterday killed 7 civilians -- Ah

I call this a good start, but a slow one in Israeli terms.

Praise be to Allah and her glorious Vagina!!!!!

Larue, you should try to get some of that hate out of your heart before karma bites you in the rear.

SuperFly- I post out of love for my fellow man - Praise be to Allah and her Glorious Vagina!

Now SuperFly, I like that one !

But claiming you post out of love for your fellow man, then say civilian death is a good thing is quite contradictory.

JSF, it's news because the elections are over. The "fiscal cliff" doesn't interest anyone. The CIA sex scandal won't interest anyone unless there are sinfully interesting photos. This is just a news cycle that will be replaced in 24 to 48 hours unless the Egyptians, Hezbollah, Syrians or Iranians get involved. Then you can add another 48 hours. If Tehran is bombed by the Israelis, it might last a week. If Jerusalem, with all of its holy sites, is bombed, then this thing will have a much longer media shelf-life.

BTW, Barak Hussein Obama is the son of a Muslim. In our ethnically, racially, religiously oriented world, that makes him a Muslim. For mathematicians, that makes Obama one-half Muslim.

JSF49

Hamas is a front for Iran is a front for terror. I'm glad Israel is going to pound Hamas into the dust where they belong.

Israel started the war in the first place! That is so horribly one-sided and wrong Feed. The Palestinians are starving and losing all of their inhabitable land because Israel is a warmongering state fed and bloated with american taxpayer money. I say let Israel rot in their arrogance and netanyahu be held on trial for war crimes by blocking all supply caravans of food and water.

Funny how some want to go back 100 years and say the Palestinians owned the land. They don't want to go back to the first century want these same Arabs conspired with the Romans to remove the Jews from the land and steal this land originally. They don't want to go back 60 or 70 years to when the Arab leaders conspired with Hitler to commit genocide on the Jewish people and steal their land. When will you people learn these conflicts are not 100 or 200 years old, they go back thousands of years. One side take the land and the other side wants it. There has never, ever been a country called Palestine. This place was ruled as part of a British protector colony and before that as part of the Ottoman Empire. So there never was or has been a Palestinian state until now

Not Israel, they seem to enjoy killing Palestinian children.

go take your bible and jump off a high building you are a demented phsyco

uka, when God pours out his wrath upon an unbelieving people, I can guarantee you it won't be the Christians jumping off the high buildings. It will be those with no promise of eternal life because they denied Him. When all hell breaks loose, you will probably be one of the first to jump.

That doesn't change the fact Israel started this war, is starving other people, and has no remorse for their killings of innocent civilians.

uka, is like other anti-Semites. They are too busy polishing their Hitler statues to notice that everytime one of these little short conflicts pops up, it is the Arabs who always get their rears kicked. When will these Arabs learn that as long as Israel rules the skies over the Middle East, there is only death and destruction in store from one of these armed conflicts. If they think Iran will do anything, they are sorely mistaken. With all the bluster of the Iranian leaders, they know the Israeli air force and nuclear weapons would turn Iran into a parking lot if they tried any direct movement against Israel. They have been threatening Israel for over 30 years since the Shah left. The only thing they can do is threaten and fund terrorism. For every one Israeli who they kill, hundreds of Palestinians either die or are seriously injured.

Patrick, you can put your shoes in the oven, but that don't make 'em biscuits.

Repeat that Israel started this war as many times as you want, it don't make it true.

Wasn't true in 1948, 1956, 1967 or 1973, either.

uka, when God pours out his wrath upon an unbelieving people, I can guarantee you it won't be the Christians jumping off the high buildings. It will be those with no promise of eternal life because they denied Him. When all hell breaks loose, you will probably be one of the first to jump.

And I'm sure you eagerly await such a day. Too bad, for you, that such things are nonsense.

Yes, Arabs were displaced when Israel was recognized as a state in 1948. However, for those arguing that Hamas is justified in launching rockets into Israel because of events that took place in 1948, are wrong. There is a long history in this region, which has seen it's share of bloodshed and exchange of powers. Today, Israel is recognized by the international community as a sovereign state. They have a right to defend that territory.

A rough analogy would be a sudden uprising by Native American tribes in the United States. If they had access to rocket technology and began firing them at major cities, like New York, Chicago, or Seattle, one cannot say they are justified for doing so because of events that took place long ago. It is simply absurd to think it would be. Until the United States collapses, dissolves, or is taken over by a competing power, it has a right to defend it's territories - just as Israel does.

Note: I'm not saying that the United States and Israel are without fault, obviously. But the displacement and removal of a wide variety of cultures is, unfortunately, the reality of the world throughout human history. Hell, Spain's conquest of the new world was arguably the most damaging, resulting in a terrible loss of life both in terms of arms and the spread of disease - wiping out hundreds of millions of indigenous peoples over the course of several centuries. It is sad, but it is in the past. Fighting wars over events that took place in the past is not justifiable.

Israel defending it's land because of events taking place today IS justifiable.

hey penny green we can see where your loyalties lie. they are with pissarel so you are traitor to US

We already know what kind of leader he is and where his loyalties lie. You can bet he won't be siding with Israel against his own people. Say what you will, he is a Muslim at heart if not in (public) practice.

uka, way to get it backwards. If your loyalties lie with the Muslims, who perpetrated 911, then YOU are the traitor. Pick a side. Israel is our friend and you may as well get used to it. Your hero Hitler is dead, get over it.

President Obama's loyalties are to the people of the United States. Israeli got what they wanted in Palestine, not happy how it went after the election..... Palestinian people are responding the same way the Jewish people responded when they where forced to live in a Ghetto.

mr steady without kissing israel a ss and financing their stealing the country there would have been no 9-11

Mr.Steady

uka, way to get it backwards. If your loyalties lie with the Muslims, who perpetrated 911, then YOU are the traitor. Pick a side. Israel is our friend and you may as well get used to it. Your hero Hitler is dead, get over it.

Mr. Steady, it was Al Qaeda that allegedly perpetrated 9/11, not Islam.

Anyone who kills scores of innocent children is NOT my friend, and Israel has killed about 1500 Palestinian children since 2000.

Mr. Steady, it was Al Qaeda that allegedly perpetrated 9/11, not Islam

Superskunk, your ignorance is astounding and pathetic.

from Wikipedia:

"al-Qaeda is a global militant Islamist organization founded by Osama bin Laden at some point between August 1988 and late 1989"

Thanks for proving my point. I have said repeatedly that Islam is not a religion, but a political party.

I refuse to apologize for my stand against Islam and everything it stands for. You should be just as outraged about all the deaths on 911 as you are about the palestinian children that you allege were killed by Israel. If the Palestinians would leave Israel the hell alone, those children needn't have died, so their blood is on the hands of the Palestinian government.

MY ignorance ?!?!?

I'm confused. First of all you should cite something other than Wikipedia. Secondly, if you're going to cite something, you should try and prove YOUR point, instead of validating mine. (You claimed ISLAM was responsible for 9/11, when I correctly pointed out that Al Qaeda was responsible for it. Al Qaeda might be muslim, but islam is not Al Qaeda)

While I find monotheism quite ridiculous, and organized religion in general the same, I have educated myself on the major religions in our world throughout my life.

You apparently haven't, and know NOTHING of islam.

Your posts contain no facts or objectivity, just nonsense and assumptions about people you don't know, yet you claim I'm the pathetic one....................hmmmmmmm............common sense, intelligence, and logic would lead most to believe otherwise.

Of course you are confused.

You correctly pointed out that Al Qaeda was responsible for 911, yet you fail to see that the motivation was because of their Islamic beliefs???????

I stand by my statement, your ignorance is astounding. You are the one who obviously knows NOTHING about Islam except what you blindly believe from the Muslim-ass-kissing media.

Their motivation was based more on our federal governments global occupation of their homelands, the destruction of their homelands, and interference in their politics.

I disagree with their way of life, but it doesn't affect our country in any way, which gives our government no reason to be involved. Are you familiar with any of our governments interference in the Middle east since the 50's ? Apparently not.

You can't honestly believe that they attacked our country because of our way of life ?!?!? How does our way of life affect them ? What does affect them is military bases and a military presence all over the Middle East.

Please present some legitimate facts or information to refute your wild and baseless claims. Until then you are just regurgitating nonsense.

Except Hamas had no part to play this time, and Israel started this war, so why should the muslims be blamed?

What an incredible lack of knowledge of Middle East history. This war/conflict has been going on for thousands of years. The last 30 years has been one of the longest times of peace. The Israelis are not the ones trying to wipe the Palestinians/Arabs off the map. Every Arab charter in the region calls for the complete annihilation of the Israeli state and the Jewish people. But some of you people want to get upset when the Jews want to take the Arabs at their word. If the Palestinian state was not so corrupt full of leaders stealing their people's money then maybe they might make some progress. But Palestinian leaders want their people warring against Israel so they don't notice them stealing them blind. I could say Israel will bomb Gaza back to the stone age, but that would probably be an improvement. These Palestinians love their children so much that they are willing to strap bombs to them so they can blow by children in Israel.

Israel is about to kick some real asss! Rock on dudes!

Jonathan, the residents of Gaza knew exactly what they were getting when they put Hamas in power - they were very clear about their goals and intentions.

uka - I did notice and I give thanks to Allah for her wisdom and support of Israel.

I bet you have a picture of Hitler on your mantle, too.

mr steady is part of the propaganda machine where the jews have gotten the whole world to hate their enemies : hitler and the arabs

So, uka, Hitler IS your hero. Looks like I called that one right. You are a pathetic little man (or woman).

You know what I find pathetic ? People who make things up about other people that they know nothing about. I've seen numerous posts about Hitler here, and they've ALL come from Mr. Steady.

I'm sorry Mr. Steady, whoever you are.

Read post 1.29 and get back to me on that Superskunk. It's people like that you are standing up for. You and SAM-3139134 are disgusting, filthy, pieces of garbage. You responded to another of my posts with your same disgusting rhetoric, so don't play defense on me.

I'm just presenting facts, logic, intelligence, rationale, and common sense to the discussion.

You bring none of that and resort to nanny nanny boo boo name calling and Wikipedia references.

Give me something tangible and then I might consider taking you seriously, until then all you bring to the table is empty rhetoric.