... a cross-border conflict with Hamas militants that risks spiraling into an all-out war.

With the attention of the world on preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, was it, therefore, necessary for Netanyahu to risk an all-out war in the region by assassinating the Hamas military leader while killing many innocent Palestinians?

Netanyahu started this round of conflict, and he will finish it regardless of how many Palistinian civilian lives it will cost.

The last time their tanks rolled into gaza, (Dec '08 operation Cast Lead) 100 Palistinians died for every Israeli death.

White Phosphorus artillery shells were fired into a densely populated area (Geneva convention violation).

Netanyahu is trying to secure his election victory no mater how many lives it costs.

Excuse me but Isreal is defending it's people. They have that right the same as we do.

They were under attack and responded.

Those "innocent" palestinian terrorists had fired 100 rockets at Israel in 5 days before Israel finally responded.

How many rocket attacks would the U.S. allow on THEIR people before a response?

Ed, I don't believe that Israel started this round of conflict at all. I'm no fan of Netanyahu, but Hamas started shelling random Israeli citizens, which triggered the Israeli response. At least, when Israel strikes, they target terrorists and military targets; when Hamas strikes, they choose civilians. Purposefully striking civilians is most definitely an Arab theme.

If one is not delirious or knowingly liar, would know by just reading even the liberal news that Israel endured several months of rockets and missiles being fired into their town and did not respond. There is no nation on earth that would sit tight and let a neighbor attack them. Israel, after numerous warning attacked. They have the right to defend themselves as we do.

If Hams does not want war, they should not fire missiles at Israel. Period.

Hammas Started it, Isreal will finish it!

@ ValidViewpoint

Google search "US Chopper Gunner Shoots Civilians" Their is a 40 minute video taken from an American chopper in Iraq shooting adults and children then shooting the people coming to get the bodies. 2 of the people shot were reporters.

Open your eyes Valid. All govt's are running the same game.

Netanyahu started this round of conflict,

El Wrongo. No, he did NOT. Watch the news once in a while before making such a statement.

The last time their tanks rolled into gaza, (Dec '08 operation Cast Lead) 100 Palistinians died for every Israeli death.

Well, apparently the Hamas thugs didn't get it through their thick skulls back then that Israel is here to stay, did they? Maybe tactical nukes courtesy of Israel will do the trick this time. But then again, they're pretty damn stupid.

With all due respect...WHAT does "US Chopper Gunner Shoots Civilians" have to do with this issue?!

Gazans killed in the attacks are described in this article. Why did I need to go a different news source to get a description on the people in Kiryat Malachi???

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/israel-prepares-mobilize-30-000-reserve-troops-invasion-gaza-article-1.1202961?localLinksEnabled=false

mrcharch: Who cares???????????? The Iraqi's are killing each other by the thousands every year and you take issue with a Gunship blowing away a few more???? Also no evidence that Americans were flying the chopper since we have provided a significant number to the Iraqi armed forces.

The best news the world in total could have is that the entire Middle East flares into War and totally destroy themselves (except for Israel of course) The world wins by the destruction of the one single group of people responsible for over 90% of all terrorist activity since 1948 and 9 wars.

There are no innocent Palestinians - as a people they have actively and enthusiastically supported world-wide terrorism since 1948.

Ternan, since you are such a brillliant student of history, tell us exactly what occurred in 1948 to precipitate their "reign of terror".

Well if Friday is a day of Rage I can only hope they burn their cities down.

You look like a good place to start, sandman.

In 1948 the nation of Israel was created and gained independence by mandate from the United Nations as was previously ratified and passed by the predecessor to the UN the League of Nations. The same day Israel declared the creation of the nation of Israel - Israel was invaded by 7 of their Arab nation neighbors. Israel did not have a standing army at that time but did have a militia that kicked the @!$%# out of the invading Arab armies. Now that is what happened in 1948.

You didn't finish the story, Ternan. What happened to the many thousands of Palestinian families who had rightfully and legally owned their land, homes and farms for decades, some for centuries? What was their fate and what do they and their descendants have to show for their loss today?

Egypt backing Hamas?!!!? Who Put the new leader of Egypt in power (Muslim Brotherhood)? Ohhh wait the white house backed him thats right...wonder if Barack Osama Obama is sitting in the oval office with a sly grin across his face....wonder if he'd make time to meet with Egypts PM if he visited the UN

Both sides are led by murderous fanatics only interested in their politics. But this round of violence is clearly instigated by Satan's altar boy: Netanyahu.

George, the Israelis rebelled against the British, aided by their mentors in the IRA. The British made a very big attempt to stop the Irgun and Stern Gang by hanging many of their leaders...just as they had done to the IRA.

Obama's foreign policy (or lack thereof) now has Egypt poised for war with Israel and Al Quaida is gaining new strongholds throughout the Middle East.

Way to go America, you just asked for four more years.

Go get them Netanyahu ....And please finish this once and for all.

JK, lay blame where it belongs. Obama didn't start mid-east conflicts that have been around for, what, centuries? Besides, America has a history of good intentions that turn bad in that region. How do you think Hamas won an election in Gaza in the first place? We promoted free elections for the Palastinians, who voted for Hamas. Maybe history tells us to just stop meddling.

Ternan,

The terrorist campaign against the British was the decisive factor leading to the UN decision to the formation of Israel. This fact was not lost on the Palistinians. They learned terrorism from the zionists and they expect to eventually have the same result.

One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter.

It's easy for Israel to play a very dangerous game because they know they are backed by the US and will continue getting weapons and money from the US no matter what they do. If Israel had to stand on its own you would see a nation more interested in getting along and making peace than war and taking its neighbors property, homes, natural resources and killing their children in the process. For every Israeli adult that was killed Israel killed more Palestinian babies and children.

You may be on to something with this Iran thought since Obama told Israel to lay off Iran.

Let's remind everyone what Hamas sees as their motive for attacking Israel, as expressed in Hamas’s own Charter.

Article 7 of the Hamas Charter reads:

http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/1609.htm
"The hour of judgment shall not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them, so that the Jews hide behind trees and stones, and each tree and stone will say: 'Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him,' except for the Gharqad tree, for it is the tree of the Jews."

Article 7 is taken from Hadith Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177.
and quotes the Prophet Muhammad:

http://www.hadithcollection.com/sahihbukhari/85/3715-sahih-bukhari-volume-004-book-052-hadith-number-177.html

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDohNq9BORo&feature=endscreen&NR=1

Behind the Scenes: Palestinian Demonstrations

See what the Palestinians teach their CHILDREN????

Armageddon here we come!

Thank goodness we have a strong Commander in Chief to help us through this mess....

oh wait, he is planning a trip to Russia to complete is open mic mission!

Truth is that we all new the President of Egypt (An Islamist) would back Hamas.

Hamas protects it leaders and weapons via hiding them near children, schools and hospitals.

Hamas will never have peace with Israel. Hamas wants Israel removed from the map.

Obama's foreign policy (or lack thereof) now has Egypt poised for war with Israel

You going to blame Obama for everything?

How is he responsible for all the other times these two sides flexed their U.S. provided military might? Was it Obama's fault in the 60's, 70's 80's, 90's and 00's as well?

You may want to return your history book. It only seems to have a blank page in it that you are writing your own history on.

I want to remind you that, seven years ago, Israel withdrew from every square inch of Gaza. Now, Hamas took over the areas we vacated. What did it do? Rather than build a better future for the residents of Gaza, the Hamas leadership, backed by Iran, turned Gaza into a terrorist stronghold. They fired thousand of rockets at our cities, at our towns, at our civilians, at our children. They’ve smuggled thousands of rockets and missiles into Gaza, and they deliberately place these rockets and missiles in civilian areas: in homes, in schools, near hospitals. This year alone, they fired over one thousand rockets and missiles at Israel, including close to 200 rockets in the last 24 hours....

I’m stressing this because it’s important to understand one simple point. There is no moral symmetry; there is no moral equivalence, between Israel and the terrorist organizations in Gaza. The terrorists are committing a double war crime. They fire at Israeli civilians, and they hide behind Palestinian civilians. And, by contrast, Israel takes every measure to avoid civilian casualties. I saw today a picture of a bleeding Israeli baby. This picture says it all: Hamas deliberately targets our children, and they deliberately place their rockets next to their children. Despite this reality – and it’s a very difficult reality – Israel will continue to do everything in its power to avoid civilian casualties....."

http://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/2012/11/16/netanyahu-tells-foreign-press-there-is-no-moral-symmetry-the-terrorists-are-committing-a-double-war-crime/

The terrorists are emboldened because Obama, the Muslim Sympathizer in Chief, won re-election and they know the anti-semite in the Oval office will not stand with Israel.

Hamas just did Israel a big favor by giving Israel a legitimate reason to go into Gaza and eliminate Hamas' leadership, rockets and other weapons stock piles. Now Israel will not have to worry so much about Hamas when the preemptive strike takes place in Iran. Hopefully Hezbollah will make the same mistake, so they can be minimized too.With Assad being kept busy in Syria, if I were the Iranians I'd think twice about going any farther with their nuke program.

And with Mr. Obama confirming, yesterday, that the "negotiations" with Iran are going nowhere, it is simply a matter of a very short period of time before the strike on Iran starts. It would be nice if the people of Iran would rise up now and cast of their religious zealot dictators and at the same time scuttle their nuke program.

In the meantime, Mr Obama needs to get on the phone to Morsi in Egypt and tell him that he best keep his nose out of the entire matter, least he find himself in a world of hurt.

Israel and Netanyahu cannot go on assassinating every person or leader they feel are a threat to them. With all of the assassinations over the past five decades has created an atmosphere of retaliation from the other states/countries that Israel must live with and try to get along with. I for one am against what their Mussad has been doing with these out and out murders or assassinations they have been doing. Have they forgotten the first rule of Sociology? For every action there will be action that might not be equal and opposite. If they would stop this fooling murderous assassinations and behave as a civilized nation instead of thugs their might be a chance for meaningful peace talks. Has no one correlated the attacks against Israel whenever they murder another country's leader or citizen? I am not against Israel protecting their people but in the same token they cannot go around murdering citizens of countries they share geography with. It is my opinion they have digressed as a people instead of maturing as a nation. I am against assassinations as it does breed reactions that can be predicted. Israel must stop this policy of murder by selection. This has been outlawed by other civilized countries and it seems they have forgotten actions that were taken against them in the 1940's.

The US needs to stay out of this conflict. Period! We have enough problems already. Another war isn't going to help us out of the hole we've dug.

Let Israel and Palestine work it out, or fight it out between themselves.

We need to fix OUR COUNTRY!

First thing the people of Israel and Palestine should do is hang their warmongering politicians. We should do that here as well. Wars only benefit politicians and war profiteers. They never benefit the People.

I don't care what Obama has or has not done here, all I know is that Isral has shown control letting those nut case fanatics kill civilians. But there is a point you say 'Enough!!!!!' All I know is the price of gas will skyrocket soon, and the economy will tumble. OH this is maybe an Obama trick to get you to look away while he pulls some BS out of his a$$.

Go getem Isral, enough of those religious fanatics.

Celtic: I suggest that you and your Jewish wife go live in Israel for a while and experience what it is like living in the midst of a terrorist regime that unrelentingly fires those "crappy rockets into Israel;" otherwise, you have no credibility.

So glad the Jews voted for Barry!! FOOLS!! Feeling USED yet?

The only fool here is you, bigot.

Calling someone a fool and bigot without knowing what bigot means: priceless.

Israel has every right to invade Gaza and declare all out war on Palestine. Hamas is a terrorist group, The Muslim brotherhood is a terrorist group, the "civilians" are a terrorist group of sorts. When you let terrorists control your country and do not rise against them you are in essence condoning the behavior of said terrorists. When you vote to elect Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas Leaders you are stating that you agree with their terrorists ways. It is awful to say this but this time Israel should take off the gloves when invading. Sorry "civilans" in Gaza, Palestine, and now Egypt, you are part of the problem and part of the solution is the get rid of you as well. War is Hell as they say and when you let your own people start shooting rockets at another group of people then you have declared war on that nation and deserve whatever comes your way. Hamas started it and Israel should end it for good!

Just make sure we stay out of it. The Israeli's will do better without us anyway!

After the Egyptian revolution, it feels like extremist have taken over. Those extremist probably think that since the US is so much in debt, and are known to pull out of wars, when the going gets tough, the leadership in Gaza now can safely attack Israel. Leaders in Gaza probably received a Green light from the Egyptians to start a war with Israel, because the Egyptians will back them up. The weak are going to say, that is their war, stay out of it, but the reality is that those same people after they are embolden will eventually come after us. They are extremist and they do not care to die, they want everyone to adhere to their religion or perish. Let's hope that some of those extremist understand that the US knows what to do with those that don't care to die.

Basil Romeo......you said:

Quote.....Celtic: I suggest that you and your Jewish wife go live in Israel for a while and experience what it is like living in the midst of a terrorist regime that unrelentingly fires those "crappy rockets into Israel;" otherwise, you have no credibility......EndQuote

Basil Romeo.....Do you live in Israel? Because, apparently, you believe ONLY those living in Israel have standing to express opinions about the perpetual conflicts Israel engages with her neighbors.

Surely, U.S. taxpayers, who have contributed billion$ to Israel, have standing to express themselves on this issue. Otherwise, we should not contribute another dime since doing so is an expression of support (for Israel).

here is the real problem; Egypt, has no control over Hamas, however the new Egyptian government is very pro-Hamas; now for the real big problem;

Egypt now has over 500 M1A Abrams heavy battle tanks(the best in the world) Israel tanks are very good, low profile, but no match for a Abrams; if they intervene , this could be a real blood bath(we have armed Egypt to the teeth, even build a tank factory for them in Egypt(5 billion), trained their tank crews, and gave them the secret laser sights for the Tanks, we are the major supplier of the Egyptian army, we are very foolish in our forward thinking.

saxon,

I agree with you that a war between Israel and Egypt would be a real War unlike anything we have seen for a long while. The U.S Gov't needs to start by pulling all aide to Egypt. After their revolution, they have shown themselves to be more fantatical in their ways than we first thought possible. The people that started the revolution, the young, educated, tech savvy group, is not the ones that rose from the ashes of their revolution. It was The Muslim Brotherhood and their ilk. The Muslim Brotherhood is no friends of the the American people or the civialized world as a whole. There are ways to destroy the M1 Abrams. You start by airstikes on their facilites so they can't build more then with the help of some U.S tech you take them out. Take the aide from Egypt, pump it into weapons and tech for Israel and Israel will prevail. Yes it will be bloody but they def come out on top.

Hey MrCHach... you know how you shoot innocent women and children? Easy... you just don't lead them as much! pop-pop-pop-pop...GET SOME!...pop-pop-pop-pop..GET SOME! One of the greatest movie lines ever.

But seriously, there aren't too many "innocent" people in war. The trigger on a rifle or the button on detonator switch doesn't know or care if the finger belongs to a woman or child. Lots of instances throughout history of women and children actively taking part in conflict.

Chris,

I do not know about you, but when was the last time you heard of an Israeli blowing themselves up or killing civilians because of fanatical beliefs. When they kill civilans it is because they were too close to the enemy. I would rather us give money and support to people fighting the crazies then put our own troops out their doing it. American Lives>American Money in my life. Give them everything they need to curtail the terrorists and their destructive ways. We just need to stop giving money to terrorists countries like Egypt has become.

Saxon - simply put this will come back and bite big one way or another.

At the end of the day both sides have plenty of blame and blood on their hands. I have no problem with Israel defending itself and Hamas is stupid for constantly poking the Lion but at the same time Israel has done all they can to kick these people while they are down. Really in the end extremists on both sides seem to care little for the refugees that want nothing more than to live their lives in peace. Just happens that the refugees are situated on the worse side of it all.

I personally I'm tired of the BS and It is time for it to come to an end. Israel needs to be held to the original UN mandate and upon doing so any further transgressions by Hamas or other groups needs to be swiftly dealt with. All the while the US needs to stay the hell out of it and pull all funding to any group there. Unless it just get so bad, I really think us standing back and making Israel owe up to some of its failings for a change will help the situation. I really do fear that this will be the proxy to get the green light to attack Iran which is what they seems to want more than anything. Again the US needs to step back and protect our interests for a change. While I have no problem with us being allies with Israel it is time for them to stand on the own some and stop putting Israeli interests over American interests, and no they are not always one in the same. If they want money and help from us that is how it works end of story.

Whatever the case heres hoping cooler heads will prevail.

every entity in the ME could be considered terrorist...including Isreal....

insanity: protecting Isreal at the cost of billions of lives, just to get no where and do it all over again, and again, and again and again.....

I would have said: insanity: protecting ___insert country we protect___— at the cost of billions of lives, just to get no where and do it all over again, and again, and again and again.....

but I used Isreal because it seems that their lives are worth more than any other people on this planet, more lives have been lost, finding a place for Isreal, than any other ...they are the superior ethnicity...the USA would give my life for one in Isreal, why

Chris, we didn't LOSE any wars Vietnam or Korea. That's what happens when poiticians get involved. They were fought as "police actions". That is one of the stupidest mistakes you can make in confict. If you are going to fight a war, you need to take it to the enemy. You can't just sit in a confined area and try to stem the assaults. China came into the Korean conflict and we pushed them back across the Yalu river. Patton wanted to continue the fight into China, but Eisenhower stopped him. Vietnam was the same deal. Too many people were scared of China stepping in again. If we would have just went into North Vietnam it would have been over in months. We don't need to intervene with Isreal. they have proven to be a very competent force. Google six day war and read about that conflict. All we need to do is give Isreal a few of our goodies and they will do WORK over there.

Israel = The Arab worlds punching bag...

Perhaps, if the Arabs would educate their children this ridiculous killing would stop...

I've never heard once of Israel firing first...

Ed2874315: I'll go out on a limb here and tell you a bit about myself. I have posted this before.

I have no problem with criticisms against Israel provided that it is counterbalanced with criticisms of the other side. I am 52 years old and have dual Israeli-American citizenship (born in US, immigrated to Israel at age 8). It was during my service in the IDF that I became friendly with two Arabs – one a Druze who lives in a town near Haifa and the other who lives in a village near Jerusalem. We remain good friends to this day. We know each other's families well and visit each other whenever I'm in Israel (I currently live in US). Obviously we have ideological differences but agree more than disagree. They are against violence as a means of furthering the Palestinian agenda and I am against building settlements on Arab land except for a five mile buffer zone considering the short distance between the West bank and the ocean in Israel's midsection, which would otherwise be impossible to defend.. I also believe that the extreme religious right in Israel is a threat to democracy and should be divorced from the political system. I do, however, consider myself a Zionist in that I believe that there should be two distinct states – one Israel where the majority remains Jewish and the other Palestinian where the majority remains Muslim. This should not pose a problem for the Arabs considering the mass of land in all Arab countries combined relative to the size of Israel. But this is not a land-for-peace issue – it's a cultural and religious war and always has been. Being a Zionist does not suggest that I am against a two-state solution or believe that we cannot live at peace with each other. One major difference between the Arabs and Jews is that the former espouse a covenant of genocide against the Jews and will not permit Jews to live and flourish in a newly established Palestinian state whereas Arabs who are inherently non-violent do very well economically and also politically in Israel today (e.g., they are represented in the Knesset). Both my Arab friends do very well – one owns a restaurant and the other an auto repair shop. The difference between you and I is that I have condemned the actions of individual Israelis (e.g., when the Arab youth was assaulted by a group of Israelis a number of months ago) and some of the policies of the Israeli government whereas your posts are consistently one-sided, biased against the Jews. You have never attempted to provide a balanced view of the situation there. Have you ever been to Israel? Have you ever met people from both sides of the conflict and attempted to develop a more balance, moral, and truthful account of the conflict?

So Ed, I have the moral high ground here in terms of the right to comment on a situation of which have first hand knowledge. Now tell us a bit about yourself, and please be truthful.

Same applies to you Ian.

Hello folks, for decades the anti Semitic gambit is used when anyone states facts that shed light on the brutal covert activities Israel has propagated on humanity. While Israel is attacking the Palestinians they are also attacking Syrians on the Syrian border. Israel is also covertly killing scientists in Iran. And if you haven’t figured it out by now, Israel is trying to start WW III with Iran. Under Netanyahu Israel is nothing more than a third rate bully!

Remember the USS Liberty?

USS Liberty was attacked in international waters by Israeli forces on June 8, 1967, killing 34 Americans and wounding another 174. When Israel can't get the U.S. to do its bidding in attacking the countries they want attacked they perpetrate covert military attacks against the U.S.

General Dempsey, Chairman of America’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, the man who flew to Tel Aviv and informed Netanyahu that America wanted no part of his scheming against Iran was the subject of an assassination attempt in Afghanistan. This wasn’t an act of terrorism or Taliban militants. It was a mob hit by Israel’s Mossad against someone who failed to kiss the feet of Netanyahu. His response was to unleash killers, not a fact for the public but a fact just the same, one the American military knows very well. Netsayahoo is pathologically insane.

What about the land Israel has stolen from the Palestinians much less the thousands murdered and millions displaced. Remember the 1947 UN Partition accord and the land ceded to Israel. That wasn’t enough so Israel encroached on more Palestinian land the land lines were redrawn in 1967 and Israel keeps redrawing them to this day Recently Israel’s Defense Ministry has ordered eight Palestinian villages in the West Bank to be razed, claiming the land is needed for military training.. Hundreds of Palestinians are to be displaced despite evidence that the villages have existed since 1830. In their magnanimity they let the farmers have back their own land on the weekends to eke out a living. Israel continues to displace innocent men, women and children and wonders why they are targets of terrorism. What would you do if someone took over your home?

Netsayahoo is pissed off that the American elections didn’t go his way so that he would have a more pliable puppet to attack Iran. Now his elections are coming up and he is worried that if he doesn’t mire his country in an all out war he won’t be re-elected.

One thing for certain is that when Israel tells America to jump our leaders simply respond “how high”.

Netsayahoo will do anything to start WWIII. The guy actually believes in Armageddon and thinks he's the one to deliver it. If Israel wants to go to war, that is their call but they can do it alone and suffer the consequences for their actions!

No more support from Egypt...another fine mess compliments of Obama's failed foriegn policies.

Hello folks, for decades the anti Semitic gambit is used when anyone states facts that shed light on the brutal covert activities Israel has propagated on humanity. While Israel is attacking the Palestinians they are also attacking Syrians on the Syrian border. Israel is also covertly killing scientists in Iran. And if you haven’t figured it out by now, Israel is trying to start WW III with Iran. Under Netanyahu Israel is nothing more than a third rate bully!

Remember the USS Liberty?

USS Liberty was attacked in international waters by Israeli forces on June 8, 1967, killing 34 Americans and wounding another 174. When Israel can't get the U.S. to do its bidding in attacking the countries they want attacked they perpetrate covert military attacks against the U.S.

General Dempsey, Chairman of America’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, the man who flew to Tel Aviv and informed Netanyahu that America wanted no part of his scheming against Iran was the subject of an assassination attempt in Afghanistan. This wasn’t an act of terrorism or Taliban militants. It was a mob hit by Israel’s Mossad against someone who failed to kiss the feet of Netanyahu. His response was to unleash killers, not a fact for the public but a fact just the same, one the American military knows very well. Netsayahoo is pathologically insane.

What about the land Israel has stolen from the Palestinians much less the thousands murdered and millions displaced. Remember the 1947 UN Partition accord and the land ceded to Israel. That wasn’t enough so Israel encroached on more Palestinian land the land lines were redrawn in 1967 and Israel keeps redrawing them to this day Recently Israel’s Defense Ministry has ordered eight Palestinian villages in the West Bank to be razed, claiming the land is needed for military training.. Hundreds of Palestinians are to be displaced despite evidence that the villages have existed since 1830. In their magnanimity they let the farmers have back their own land on the weekends to eke out a living. Israel continues to displace innocent men, women and children and wonders why they are targets of terrorism. What would you do if someone took over your home?

Netsayahoo is pissed off that the American elections didn’t go his way so that he would have a more pliable puppet to attack Iran. Now his elections are coming up and he is worried that if he doesn’t mire his country in an all out war he won’t be re-elected.

One thing for certain is that when Israel tells America to jump our leaders simply respond “how high”.

Netsayahoo will do anything to start WWIII. The guy actually believes in Armageddon and thinks he's the one to deliver it. If Israel wants to go to war, that is their call but they can do it alone and suffer the consequences for their actions!

zahir muhsein the PALESTINIAN people does not exist..executive member of plo

PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein: "The Palestinian people does not exist"
Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here's what he said:

The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.

For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.

TrustVerify and others like him: View the following and get back to us with your opinions. I'm really looking forward to it.

"The True Face of Islam : Amanpour: Hamas founder's son Hassan Yousef : I spied for Israel"

If the link does not appear just get on to you tube and do a search of the heading above.

and,

If the link below doesn't work people can just go on u tube and type in the following title.

"Hamas official reveals where Palestinians came from"

As expected, the "Arab Spring" has been/is being hijacked by extremist elements such as the Muslim Brotherhood and no doubt Libya will follow suit and eventually Syria. The people of these countries essentially wanted freedom (I think) but will find their lot far less than it was under previous regimes. Egyptian backing of Hamas is predictable but their military will hardly get reinvolved in a conflict with Israel. Egypt's backing of Hamas is akin to the US backing of Israel. They will provide material but nothing else. Remains to be seen what Hizbullah is up to in Lebanon. Israel could have action on two fronts in short order and that would definitely place Iran on the back burner. Could this be the start of a plan to allow Iran more time to develop its bomb?

Both Israel and Palestinians need to establish strict laws that their citizens need to followed; i.e. respect each other. After the strict laws are established, the Israelis and Palestinians need to give themselves time to enforce the law of their land. Then, they can trade, believe what they want to believe, as long as they do not force it on each other, and live a peaceful life.

You can't blame the President for reaching out to a foreign government just because we don't like their policies. There are more wacko governments out there that we deal with than Egypt. We don't necessarily have to give them monetary aid but we have to recognize their elected leaders. You know... That whole democracy thing. The bottom line? Our US President did not start this conflict.

Regarding post 1.72 here are links to the clips mentioned by Basil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHbCGC6amdk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZtiUdl9Cd0

Chefaz and Basil,

Where are the nut jobs from the last post. Don't see Johnny White or m6.

Trustverify,

"If Israel wants to attack their neighbors that is their call but don't expect the U.S. to come to their rescue when what goes around comes around. It's called Karma!"

Because you are calling the shots and if trustverify says we wont come to Isreal's rescue then the Commander in Chief obviously has to listen to him....lol.

Side note...Here in the Southeast United States we have a very fierce ant called a fire ant. If you poke their nest or destroy any part of it the entire hive will come out and attack, even kill the antagonist. Isreal seems to me to be very much like a fire ant colony. Don't F__K with it and they will leave you alone.

I'm sure to antagonize the Jew haters with this one chefaz.

Netanyahu is not someone who has Israel's best interest in mind...never has...yet he was re-elected.

I don't blame him for firing the rockets. I blame him for always choosing the wrong response.

But this is what you have...a failed, terrorist attempt of government called Hamas. And a hard line Israeli government. It was bound to happen. The assasination DID NOT start this. The assasination is what exacerbated it.

Only thing is YOU ARE A LIAR if you think Obama should stay out of the middle east and you can't be smart enough to not blame him for not being involved. It makes you a dousche bag who pretends he is conservative. I.E. You lost the election for a reason....

This is an Israeli problem, and a Palestinian one. And you can count on them to resolve it the same way they always do. With a pile of bodies.

Muslims have a religious hatred of the Jews. They exterminated the Jewish tribes that once thrived in the Arabian Peninsula. Israel is a speck of land with little resources, but they have to have that too. They wanted the Greek capital Constantinople, and they got that. They wanted Europe and Asia and India and Afghanistan and Indonesia, and.... They also have a religious duty to attack non-Muslims in general, or to take over in some way so they can spread their intolerance.

Hamas won't be satisfied until Israel is annihilated. Negotiations are a ruse. They will provoke endless wars until they wipe Israel off the map. They use dirty tactics by firing from civilian targets randomly toward unarmed civilian populations. That way, if Israel fires back they can use their own civilian casualties as photo propaganda opportunities to rally their Muslim brethren to their cause. Egypt is now complicit in their support. Hamas is sick with brain rabies and Israel has every right to defend it's civilians without restraint. But they maintain far more restraint than I would expect under the circumstances.

Moment of truth for President Obama. We are wait to see which side will you choose? Will you favor your Muslim family or your Oath to the United States an it's Allie Israel. But wait Iran is closely watching these event because they will strike from the east. President your future on the pawn of your hand.

@Mike,

Your rant is exactly why I maintain that we need to step back, take a deep breath, and re-evaluate our blind support of Israel. Your rant is so devoid of facts and contains som much "made up information" (read as lies) to support false positions that I want to take time to shred it.

1) We LOST in Korea and in Vietnam. Blaming it on politicians is just sacpegoating. In both cases the pooliticians gave the military everything it requested and the military still could not prevail. Calling them "police actions" is just stupid sophistyry of the worst kind. A rose by any other name would still be a rose.

2) China came into the war when we had pushed the North Koreans to the Yalu and MacArthur was threatening to invade China. China pused the US back to the current 38th Parallel Armistice Line --- not a peace treaty, not a truce, only an armistice.

3) Patton was dead before Korea and had nothing to do with China. Patton was an advocate of attacking the Soviet Union and was fired by Eisenhower (for the second time) for saying so. You have him mixed up with MacArthur --- a really baaaaad genberal who said the same thing about China (copying Patton) and was fired by Truman.

4) We were NEVER afraid that China would come to Vietnam's aid. China and Vietnam are mortal enemies and in fact, AFTER Vietnam kicked the Japanese butts, the French butts and our butts, the Chinese attempted an invasion of Vietnam and they kicked some serious Chinese butts. The Chinese lots as well.

5) Google the Six Day War yourself. The Egyptians had pretty much won the war when they got trigger happy and allowed Israel to lure their infantry and tanks from under their air cover. Up until that point, the IDF was being skunked. The Egyptians are unlikely to make the same mistake again. Dig out a map and the CIA Factbook and take a look at Israel. It is a tiny country with a small military surrounded by countries many times its size. Their whole military "secret" is that they tend to piss off their neighbors one at a time instead of all at once. And they have a "big brother" to get them out of the holes they dig. The IDF is not nearly as potent a force as most Americans believe. The odds are simply against Israel unless we are willing to back up their mouth with American bodies and another trillion or two.

6) We don't need to "give" Israel "goodies" because they will simply steal them from us. Just as they stole all their nuclear weapons plans and key components from us. And just as they kickstarted their own uranium enruichment program with three shiploads of yellowcake hijacked at sea while we looked the other way (and two were Canadian.) There have been more Israeli spies in the US caught and imprisoned than all the Soviet, Chinese, and Eastern Bloc spies combined. Why would out "best ally" spy on us and stteal from us?

And thanks to those who remember the USS Liberty. I had friends on that ship and we should never forget so that the incident does not repeat itself.

Ed 2874315 and TomTom,

Let me ask both of you this question:

Just how many rockets should Israel allow the murdering thugs of Hamas launch into Israel before they start to fight back? 500? 1,000? 2,000? How many innocent civilians should die before Israel defends itself?

Israel gave the Gaza strip, which I think they controlled since the 1967 war, back to the Palestinians and what did they get in return? Hamas and their murderous ways and countless amounts of rockets fired at them. Maybe Israel should just take Gaza, kick the Palestinians out, and make it part of Israel.

It's too bad that the whole Middle East isn't on a huge fault line that could shift, dumping them all in the Mediterranean Sea. That would put them out of the world's misery.

I want to draw everyones attention to the last paragraph in this article. In that last sentence you will see a direct connection to the bombing in Libya by President Obama (without Congressional approval) and the stock pile of weapons being use against Israel and Mali. This is the consequence of not securing the weapons and allowing the stock pile to be looted by other nationals.

"Israel estimates the militants have 12,000 rockets, including more sophisticated weapons from Iran and from Libyan stockpiles plundered after the fall of Moammar Gadhafi's regime there last year."

The President was publically warned about his tactics yet again could not understand the cause and effect of his actions. Again a clear lack of leadership.

@ProudoftheUSA,

When was the last time you heard of Palestinians attacking Israelis with modern fighter jets, Arbrams tanks and armored personnel carriers? The idea that you can kill people remotely using Hellfire missiles fored from drones does not make it clean. In fact, I have a great deal more respect for a person so committed to his beliefs that he is willing to die for those beliefs than a button-pusher who kills like it was some sort of video game. Then he shuts off his console and goes home to his wife while others grieve the innocents collaterally killed. Because you can kill massively does not justify it. And becanuse you kill a thousand people at once instead of three does notkeep you from being a terrorist yourself.

That is the nature of asymmetric warfare. Right now we are shipping Abrams tanks home from Afghaniustan and already have about 3500 of them in mothballs because they have turned out to be extremely vulnerable to IEDs because of their flat unarmored bottoms. People who don't have tanks fight by other means, that is all. Calling a person a terrorist because he blew up your many-million-dollar high-tech tank with a $5 cell phone and a old artillery shell is just talking around the nature of warfare.

Israel is at war with the Palestinians and have been constantly so since 1948. It Irgun and the Stern Gang brought terrorism to Israel, not the Arabs. Even the current Israeli government is admitting that the "new" historians are correct and that the Israelis drove hundreds of thousands of Arabs from their homes at gunpoint, and that they did not leave voluntarily as the Israelis have long contended.

If the Palestinians don't have F-16's then they use Grad rockets. But I remind you that a Grad rocket costs around $40 apiece. The Iron Dome rockets that Israel send to intercept them cost around $140,000 apiece. You do the math. The only reason that the Israelis can shoot $140k interceptor rockets at $40 rockets is that the US taxpayer is picking up the tab. If the Palestinians have 12,000 Grad rockets, that is around $1,680,000,000 of US taxpayer dollars to shoot at them --- and still only hit around 30% of them. Every other part of Israel's military and its economy is similarly dependent on US dollars spent at Israeli discretion.

We are trying to put out a fire with gasoline.

How can people expect Israel to sit and do nothing when hundreds of rockets fall on its towns and villages every month, even during the so-called "cease fire"???

150 rockets fell on southern Israel during the week leading up to this new round of violence.

A HUNDRED AND FIFTY ROCKETS before Israel killed that terrorist leader!!! JUST IN ONE WEEK!!!

Not to mention about 10,000 rockets that were fired on Israeli towns during the last five years (since Israel left Gaza)!

I have a simple question to all those who want Israel to do nothing:

WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT YOUR LEADERS TO DO IF ROCKETS FELL ON LONDON, OR PARIS, OR NEW YORK?

Someone sent me this picture. Nuff said:

h t t p : / / www . haaretz . co . il /hasite/images/liberty.JPG

Most people will fail to see the irony here. All of the world's present unrest is caused by God people. I do not care what you want to name your God. I am sure there is only One and I am also sure He / She is pretty sick of what people do to each other in His / Her name. I do not want to take a side in this horrible on-going human atrocity. But I am sick of hearing about it. I am 62 and have been hearing about this unrest in the Middle East for almost all of my life. Are you?

"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil but because of those who do nothing about it." Albert Einstein

"With the gift of intelligence often comes the great epiphany that you may be completely wrong about your beliefs." Seven (my real name)

Ed

Very one sided professional PR spin job on behalf of Israel. Are you working for Hill and Knowlton?

No Ed, the stuff you believe is one-sided. The reason the violence escalates is the Palestinians need periodic violence to keep their following loyal or to gain more support from outside sources.

Israel suffers over 2,500 shell/rocket attacks a year that most they do not retaliate for. They always hit the news when they get tired of the shelling and counter attack.

Where are the nut jobs from the last post.

gm Troy. no news is good news.

Maybe they just need to fight it out and get it out of their system.

The US should stay out of it. Israel is just a drain anyway. We can't afford to get pulled into a regional conflict or world war.

If Hamas does not want war, they should not fire missiles at Israel. Period.

Precisely why the committed an act of agression. It usually leads to war.

it started in 1917 http://youtu.be/O7ByJb7QQ9U

TomTom & Ed - The Palestinians have choices to make - support HAMAS and their continued Rocket attacks on Israel or STOP supporting Hamas and vote for Peace. Hamas continues to use the Women and Children of Gaza as "Human Shields" and the Palestinians accept this action. ISRAEL HAS THE RIGHT TO PROTECT ITSELF AND ITS CITIZENS. To stop the Palestinians from dying Hamas has to stop firing the Rockets and attacking Israel. If and when Israel goes into Gaza, the aim should be to "remove Hamas from Gaza completely". Hamas does not care if Women and children are victims, they only care for their own goals and consider the deaths of children as a means to meet their goal. The U.S. should immediately stop all foreign aid to Egypt as long as Egypt supports Hamas.

Tom Tarbox

Hammas Started it, Isreal will finish it!

Normally Isreal could count on US support but now that we have an administration that is friendly with hammas and "standoff-ish" to Isreal, it could be tough for Isreal. However Isreal does have the protection of the hand of God.

Yup, Worm. Here we go.

Here is one of the main issues that will spill over from Egypt....Egypt is ruled by the Muslim Botherhood....The Muslim Brotherhood is an arm of Hamas....Therefore Egypt is ruled by Hamas by proxy....If Israel invades "Palestine" Egypt will attack to defend it's "brother".....Syria will just launch missles because they are too busy, and Jordan will stay out of it.....And again Israel will have to defend itself from the surrounding countries.....And again we will stay out of it like we did in 1967...And Israel will be fine....And this time Israel will not allow the US to stop them from pushing forward and all of the territory Israel gave back after the 1967 war will be taken back...

And the World will go on.....

Julius Robert Oppenheimer said "Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

Anybody remember history?Isreal is doing what we did. America was part of the english impire until we had the revolutionary war to make america our own country and we defend it today.Isreal fought to have their own country and defend it,same as us or should we give america back to the U.K.

I see the Gaza area being cleaned out and alot of new homes going up, good for them.

Let the neighbor countrys keep this scum !

this is from Hugh Fitzgerald, a noted author and historian..

Occupation"? What "occupation"? All the territories the Israelis now possess are theirs by legal right -- the right conferred by the League of Nations Mandates Commission, when it carefully defined the territory which would be set aside, from the vast territories in the Middle East that had formerly been in the control of the Ottoman Turks as part of their empire, and which had been won by the Allies. An Arab State, a Kurdish State, and a Jewish state were all promised. The Arabs got their state -- no, in the end, they got far more than their state but rather, in 2005, 22 members of the Arab League, the most richly endowed with natural resources of any states on earth, enjoying the fruits of the greatest transfer of wealth in human history The Kurds did not get their state, because by the time things had settled, Kemal Ataturk was driving a hard bargain and would not permit it. The Jews got the Mandate for Palestine set up for the express purpose of establishing the Jewish National Home, which would inexorably become, all parties realized, in time a Jewish state. It did not seem wrong then, and does not seem wrong now, that the Jews should have a state of their own. They asked only for the right to have no barriers put up to their immigration, and no barriers put in the way of their buying land. That was it. That was the sum total of what they demanded. Until the 1948 war, when five Arab armies attacked, not a single dunam of Arab-owned land (and remember that nearly 90% of the land, in any case, remained the possession of the state or the ruling authority, as in the Mandatory period) was appropriated. No one should dare to write about this subject without having done the research on demography, land ownership, and law.

The Israeli claim to the West Bank (as Judea and Samaria were carefully renamed by Jordan after 1948, in precisely the same way, and for the same reason, that the Romans, nearly two thousand years before, had renamed Judea as "Palestine" and Jerusalem as Aelia Capitolina) is not that of a military occupier, though it is also that. The main legal and historic claim is that based on the League of Nations Mandate, which in turn, was based on a considerable historic and moral claim recognized by the educated leaders of the then-civilized world, who actually knew something of the history of the area, and were not nearly as misinformed as so many have been by the mass media, and the laziness and prejudice of journalists today.

The notion of "occupation" of course evokes imagines of Occupied Paris, or Occupied Berlin, after the war. It implies no justification for the claims of the power with the military presence. But the claim of Israel to the lands it took in 1967 are based, for the Sinai, on the standard rules of post-war settlement, the rules which have obtained for centuries, whereby a victor in a war of defense keeps what he has won. If the Israelis chose not to, or were forced not to exercise that right, it does not mean that the right did not exist. It did, and it applies even more forcefully to Gaza and the West Bank. But the claim there is not based merely on the successful conquest of territory to which otherwise Israel had no claim. It did have a claim, a claim based clearly on the Mandate for Palestine -- and like all the other League of Nations Mandates, was formally accepted, taken over as it were, by the United Nations when it came into being. This is a matter of record. It cannot be undone.

Whatever else one wishes to say about the West Bank or Gaza, the word "occupation" is a tendentious, and cruel, misnomer. What it seeks to imply, what it seeks to implant in the minds of men, is clear: Israel has no rights here. This is nonsense. This is the very reverse of the truth. Read the Mandate, and the Preamble to the Mandate, for Palestine. Then read the records of the Mandates Commission -- and especially how they reacted when the British unilaterally announced that the terms of the mandate would not be applied to Eastern Palestine -- that is, the consolation prize given to Abdullah of the Emirate of Transjordan.

Read it, and understand it

@ Celtic

How many rockets actually have to kill people in Israel before it's justified? 100? 200?

Or you could prevent it all together by eliminating the source of the Rockets.

Will civilians get hurt? Most likely. That's war. The modern world has yet to make a gun that only shoots at enemy soldiers. (actually, some police forces have those but that's beside the point)

My point is, why sit and wait to get shot when you already have a gun pointed at the attackers head?

Basil Romeo.......

You may believe your Israeli citizenship and experiences there (in Israel) give you perspective. Of course, German citizens too, in WWII would have voiced a very different "perspective" on their enemies than those held by non-combatants around the world. Actually, what your Israeli citizenship and experiences provides for you is bias.

The history of Israel and, for that matter, the Jewish people is available for those interested to study. Some of us have actually done this. This much is clear, the conflict between Israelis Jews and the indigenous Palestinians did NOT begin in 1948. It was preceded by a host of political, economic, and other actions over which the Palestinians played no part and had no voice.

Now this tit-for-tat running battle between Israel and her various neighbors (particularly the Palestinians) has evolved beyond anyone's ability to determine who is (currently) the provocateur and who is simply retaliating. So, it is futile to speak of who started this latest round of insults.

Likewise, there is little point in trying to ascertain the relative ethics of either side. Both now, are fully wallowing in your discredited axiom of "an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth". Obviously, this only works well for the party willing to suffer the greatest dismemberment. That is hardly a quality to admire.

The Palestinians who, by the way, are more akin genetically to ancient Jews than are current day Israelis, were living relatively peacefully in the Levant for centuries before modern Jewry opted to return en masse. It is inconceivable how this (return) could have been accomplished without conflict with the ensconced population. No doubt, European Zionists knew and accepted this. Again, nobody consulted the Palestinians.

As you likely know, most here on Newsvine have never heard of Lord Balfour. Presumably, you have. Assuming so, you also know the events leading up to the creation of modern Israel were mostly political (in Britain) and, especially, geopolitical. It (Israel's creation) is a case study in Machiavellian chicanery.

Many have argued the details of all this. It remains a matter of opinion. That is not likely to change. But this is so: the Palestinian people are entitled to every bit as much consideration, right, and sympathy as are those of you who have chosen to live in Israel. You now have them caged up much as Hitler concentrated your people in the last century. You, no doubt, think they deserve it. Of course, Hitler thought your people were equally deserving (of such mistreatment).

In fact, the evil ghost of Hitler possesses modern Zionists. They act from fear, hatred, and a sense of (Divine) entitlement much as that awful spirit did in life. It was his barbaric treatment of your people that has, much as a brutalized pet, led to your current propensity to snarl and bite at every perceived enemy. You trust none. This is evidenced by perennial Israelis spy operations against the U.S.. Then, there is the U.S.S. Liberty incident that many of us (Americans) find hard to forget. We, democrats, are currently aghast at the active (and improper) role which your PM attempted to play in our last election.

We don't expect you to agree with this point of view. But, the tides are turning in the world and across the Middle East. It should be clear to you that the solid majority of support Israel enjoyed in the United States over the past several decades is eroding. That erosion is reflected around the globe. This may be why Netanyahu appears frantic to disarm his opponents and further subjugate the Palestinian PEOPLE. This is folly. It will only cause an acceleration in the erosion of support for Israel.

Inevitably, the Palestinian people will have their own state. After all, what do they have to lose by continuing their struggle? We can only hope you realize this and act accordingly. We do not expect it.

Geronimo Sittingbull - You didn't finish the story, Ternan. What happened to the many thousands of Palestinian families who had rightfully and legally owned their land, homes and farms for decades, some for centuries? What was their fate and what do they and their descendants have to show for their loss today?

You did not finish the story either. The Arabs at Palestine sold their land to the Zionists.

As far as "original" inhabitants, you might want to research Fundamentalist Islamic Amin Al Husseini's Pan Arabic Plan, the part about the removal of the Original Inhabitants (Coptic Christians, Jews) of Palestine by Armed Force, with the "recolonization" with Egyptians, Jordanians, Syrians, etc.. However, as most Egyptians, Jordanians, Syrians, etc. did not want to leave their own Nations, their "undesirables" were emptied out from their Prisons and sent to Palestine by armed force; this is why to this day the "Palestinian" Refugees that flee to Jordan, previous US Ally Egypt, etc. were actually held in "Refugee" (Prison) Camps fenced in by barbed wire and under armed guard and not allowed to mix in with those Nation's populations.

This is why what koobee posted at #1.71, Statement of PLO Leader, is actually true.

Prior to WWII in the lead in to the current problems with Fundamentalist Islam, was Fundamentalist Islamic Amin Al Husseini Representative to the "Islamic World" signing the 1933 Forever Alliance with Chancellor Hitler, their mutual goals of Extermination of the Jews, and getting the British (Colonies and previous Colonies) out of the "Middle East". To accomplish this task Chancellor Hitler assisted Fundamentalist Islamic Amin Al Husseini's formation of the Fundamentalist Islamic Muslim Elite SS Brigades that first were used to round up the German Jew, Gypsies, Political Dissenters, etc. to be sent to the German Political Prisons and later on shipped to the "Work Camps". Later on these Fundamentalist Islamic Muslim Elite SS Brigades fought in North Africa, Africa, the Middle East, Southwest Asia, etc. on the side of NAZI Germany.

After the defeat of NAZI Germany Fundamentalist Islamic Amin Al Husseini then co founded the Fundamentalist Islamic Arab League of Nations, Original Charter the Extermination of the Jews. The Fundamentalist Islamic Muslim Elite SS Brigades that fought in North Africa, Africa, the Middle East, Southwest Asia, etc. on the side of NAZI Germany were basically forgotten and abandoned, as they had no means to transport them to their Nations of Origin (spread of Armed Fundamentalist Islam).

Fundamentalist Islamic Amin Al Husseini's stated belief is the 109 Suras of the 114 Suras of the Holy Koran (Quran) Calls To All Islamic Believers to War Against the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers. To accomplish this forever, demands (and got) the Fundamentalist Islamic Arab League of Nations to continuely attack the Nation of Israel, instituted portions of his Pan Arabic Plan.

The Conditional UN Mandate for the Recognition of the Nation of Israel depended on what occurred during 1948. The specific US involvement was US Army Colonel Marcus (aka Stone) during the 1948 Arab Israelis War. This Arab loss resulted in the US and later on the UN Recognizing the Nation of Israel. The British finally gave up their Colony, of note previous observations of the Arabs since the British Colonies, was that the Arabs were Nomadic Tribes and did not believe in owning land, developing the land, etc.; this Arabic Nomadic Tribal belief was used by US Army Colonel Marcus to unite many Arabic Nomadic Tribes to fight on the side of the Israelis.

The reason why this will never stop, is Fundamentalist Islamic Amin Al Husseini established the method to make sure that this neve will stop, with his Mandatory School Curriculum of the 109 Suras of the 114 Suras of the Holy Koran (Quran) Calls To All Islamic Believers to War Against the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers; Chancellor Hitler's Mein Kampf taught as a Success Story sabotaged by the Jews; the Blame the Jews for Everything, "Protocols of the Wise Elders of Zion".

Its really hard NOT to notice that nothing is reported about what started this violence! Epic failure by the media to report that this conflict was STARTED by a young GAZAN boy being shot and killed by IDF soldiers while he was playing soccer, and that the Israeli officials failed to investigate this killing or even acknowledge it.

Noam Chomskey and others are challenging Journalist Worldwide to acknowledge "The degree of terror felt by ordinary Palestinian civilians in Gaza is barely noticed in the media, in stark contrast to the world's awareness of terrorised and shock-treated Israeli citizens.".

None of the events of the escalation of violence are being accurately reported. All the media can talk about is how terrorized Israeli Citizens are, when there have already been 17 deaths of women and children in Gaza, without any media coverage. Including, the destruction of the house of a BBC Cameraman, whose 11 month old infant was killed, along with his sister-in-law and critically injured brother. Why is none of this being covered by the media?

Israel does not need this war; no casualties at the cease-fire a few days ago. Then Netanyahu decides to escalate with an assasination. This is his war, and the only reason is the election. He lost face supporting Romney; now he lets people die to try and win the election in Israel.

These two videos will chill you to the bone.

Watch these two videos to see what Israel and the world is dealing with:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn6agMAvRlY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1G6qpZqyQg

Islam does not want peace!!! Islam is the religion of Satan.

Random rockets fired into a country stands no chance against laser guided bombs.

basil romeo, a voice of reason among all the "kill the jews" yahoos, like chris et al

Maybe Israel can show some leadership and stop stealing their land in front of the entire world.

That could slow the rate rockets are fired into Israel.

And so it begins,,,

Something tells me that long before this is over they’ll run out of virgins in paradise. These arab terrorists will never learn.

Jeffor - Our US President did not start this conflict.

Learn to do a Causative Timeline. Anchor the left side of the timeline with President Obama's 2009 (Foreign) Policies. And what the Ayatollahs of Iran's response (Overt and Covert Activities) was to President Obama's Policies.

I am not going to spoonfeed you years of research. Your own research will be more convincing than anything I can post.

The U S media beating the drums of war again. When the USA gets drug into this conflict - I want all you Israeli supporters to march your kids down and get them enlisted.

Conflicts like this are happening around the world - I don't see you posters posting on those conflicts - so what emotional button gets pushed in you to pick this conflict to support?

You don't tolerate your kids saying so-and-so started it - but then you do the same thing...lmao. Guess what; none of your religions were there first - your religions killed off the original inhabitants long ago...but lets just keep picking certain times in history just so you can pretend you have a valid point.

I don't support any group that resorts to blame - be it home or abroad - adults have a brain, use it first.

Just the words "give peace a chance" sets some of you into a rage - like just the concept of peace is not to be tolerated. Who is feeding your rage? Live a balanced life...not a chance when there are religious beliefs and land to be grabbed.

Patches -

"Give Peace a Chance" is pretty hard when your neighbors publicly vow to wipe you off the map, when your neighbor's entire government was founded simply to destroy you. "Give Peace a Chance" didn't work when Lennon sang it, and it won't work on Hamas either. It's a great ideal, but we live in the real world.

What are all you liberals doing here? I figured you would be in the streets firing your AK-47's in the air and cheering since Israel is being attacked.

I recall another world event that started in a similar way, you know blaming the Jews for all the worlds problems. It happened some time in the 1930's.....any of you Israel haters want to take a stab at it?

tomtom... what would you do if some was shooting at your home??? to avoid conflict, would you just "take it"??????? how many 9/11 attacks do we take before doing something, should we just "be calm and it will all stop"???

Jesus teaches us to turn the other cheek, and I prefer peace over war... but what if the other sides only wants war...what would you do?

Funny how we have strong opinions when it is in another country, would love to see comments if this was happening in your home town... would opinions change????

Sorry MmmMmmBeer; homie don't play the blame game. When you kids decide to climb the evolutionary ladder, you are welcome to join the rest of the civilized world. You are free to support whatever you like - just don't ask for my tax dollars to support your desires. If you feel that strongly about supporting either side - then sign off the computer and go take up arms with the side you like - at your own cost.

Logic and reality says both sides are to blame - you picked a side, not me, so you made it your personal burden...stop trying to make it my burden.

Why didn't you answer my question on why you don't post on other regions of the world who are involved in the same crap?

How can you say Peace didn't work for Lennon, when it was never tried in the first place. Lennon didn't die in a peace march - he died at the hands of a U S terrorist.

I'm surprised at the amount of people that seem to think that not hitting civilians is a huge, and negative, difference from hitting civilians caught in the middle. Here's the problem with that line of thought: you already know the mortars and missiles and tracking and targeting systems employed by the groups launching into Israel are substandard at best, so they have a relatively low degree of hitting targets of worth. In the meantime, a drone strike that takes out a known leader of a group that has declared several times that their intention is to destroy Israel and takes out other people caught in its effect simply by being there. Switch just those two facts around (taking nothing else into account) where you end up with Israel can't hit anything of worth but the group that has declared its intentions to destroy Israel sends in a drone to kill a leader and then there are others that just happen to get caught in its effect. What do you say about it then?

Most of you will probably still say Israel deserves it because they lob their mortars and missiles into Palestine indiscriminately and they risk killing civilians. See, that's the problem, you only see the evil empire rather than the face of a people and a nation that takes anywhere what from 20-200 strikes in a day and responds in kind maybe 4-5% of the time and you call them the antagonists. And the reason you see this is because you are told to see it that way and to see the Palestinians as oppressed people only, because the oppressed always have right on their side, yes? Well look how well that turned out in Libya, in Egypt, in Iraq, in Afghanistan. Look at what the former "oppressed" have become. Most of you seem to have an ounce of common sense so use it and see that these nations have taken a much more aggressive role on a global scale rather than in their own sovreignties(spellcheck).

If, as many of you believe, Israel is truly an occupation of Palestinian lands, this begs the question: you likely live in the U.S., so what are you still doing here? After all, this line of logic inevitably leads to the U.S. being an occupation of Native American lands. If you truly believe that Israel has no right and should just be overrun and kicked out, what are you doing here in the U.S.?

That would then run the lines that Israel is the aggressor in this conflict and as we have seen demonstrated time and again, Palestine or Hammas or other organizations periodically fire into Israel after Israel has decided to rest for a bit, not at the shooting of some kid, certainly not at the bombing or occupation of lands the Palestinians claim is theirs. These organizations fire first, usually to an ineffect of no real importance, then Israel fires after bearing the brunt of it for so long.

Let's look at a more domestic issue: let's say a group of kids vandalizes your house or your car or other property of yours, but never truly harm you or your family, do you at least call the police, or maybe try to warn them off yourself, or do you just let them walk all over you, maybe get the damage repaired and think it's alright, it's just property? If you let them go, common sense dictates that they'll likely hit someone else, or you again, only it won't be just vandalism next time, it'll likely be breaking and entering and/or burglary. So why would you risk continuing to let it happen?

Derek-381097

Netanyahu is not someone who has Israel's best interest in mind...never has...yet he was re-elected.

Dang....finally some common ground here - simply insert "US" for Israel

and "Obama" for Netanyahu and you have

deja vu

Not that it is the right thing to do, but it seems that one side obliterating the other is the only way this "holy" war will ever end.

Well jason, why keep doing the things that have never worked? You read in the old testament that the jews recourse was to kill 100 for 1. That was thousands of years ago and has not worked yet. So, what is your answer, keep on doing the same thing? If so, you will be in the majority.

I am an old retired industrial maintenance man and I learned many years ago that if you have a problem and you try something and it does not work, you need to try something different. Using this simple practice, I became known as the brightest maintenance man around. I don't know, seems like common sense to me.

And from whom do the Gaza Palestinians get this modest range rocket weaponry? Oh right! North Korea and / or the Soviets sold the technology to Iran and Iran ships out this stuff to their 'friends' and these 'friends' are all sworn enemies of the State of Israel. And then some wonder why the Israelis go to the expense of blockading the Gaza strip.

Get with the program Hamas - no rockets, no blockade!

both sides should really go at it...just like to see those religious nut jobs justify all that heavy duty kill'n...making both their gods real proud...middle east loser's...

Something alot of you are forgetting is they are using rockets because Israel is settling in their land. To put this in perspective for some of you, imagine if Mexico was stronger than the US, and told their people to start building cities in Texas, and that Texas was theirs land now because their people "need" it (ignoring the fact we basically did just that to them to get Texas in the first place).

Do you think the Texans would not attack them for that? Not a chance.

But honestly, so long as we stay out of it I don't really care what Israel does.

Its kinda crazy to think that my mom or dad would put a gps location before my life....Im sure thats what "God" would have wanted

you know, Im starting to think, we cannot change this no matter what we do, and that maybe just maybe letting "nature" take its course and asking the other countries to sit with us, watch that region just go to pieces. ....im sure these other countries are sick and tired of this just as much as we are for footing the bill so that Isreal can have a piece of land right SMACK in the middle of a land where they are not wanted....you know...the dirt here is nice...we seem to take all kinds, visa, mastercard, DC, AMEX just the same....and hey...its bigger here...AND we dont have to walk to work/school with gas masks hooked to our belt loop...just sayin

Its kinda crazy to think that my mom or dad would put a gps location before my own life....

Imagine all the money the US could save if it stop giving it to Egypt, Pakistan and other anti-US countries. The muslim brotherhood is laughing all the way to the bank.

Tyler, you've seriously disappointed me with the comments you've restored while allowing others to stay collapsed. Your bias is showing, sir.

CelticPagan, you are disgusting. I take offense as to how you spun your story into its all the GOP's fault. Man grow up already, the Muslims are the AGRESSORS. And I don't expect you to understand that, because you seem happy in your idealogies that the Jews and Christians are the murderers. As the Muslim's take innocent lives indescriminately, and now they are developing weapons of TRUE mass destruction, but that doesn't concern you, WHY??!! Need I remind you 911, Benghazi, Fort Hood, TX. etc etc etc. They have declared war on Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddist and so on. But why would you care about their lives? You are so sympathetic with the agressor Muslim nation, and I am lead to believe you lie about your true ethnicity??!! And if you are what you say you are, it's very PATHETIC to side with murderers that terrorize. They fire rockets with murderous intent, and you spin it into its some elses fault they did it.... Go sell your idealogies to the murderous Islamic extremists, because we don't buy your brand of CRAZY here!!! IF they declare war, and those murdering POS keep taking innocent lives by their terrorist activities, then options need to be explored. But I don't expect our spineless President to be able to do anything about it, look at Benghazi for a reference...

And in NON US news...Gaza retaliates for Israeli terrorist attacks on Gaza! Ooops! I guess we arent supposed to know this? I guess thats why Isreal was put there, to cause conflict so we can have a indefinite war!

As Israel lights up the night sky in retaliation, you will be able to hear and see the cockroaches scurry into the schools and hospitals for shelter...

But this round of violence is clearly instigated by Satan's altar boy: Netanyahu.

100 Qassams say otherwise.

MQIRA, keep trying to sell your idiocracies to the world. The fact is you accept peaceful treaties but you break those treaties whenever you feel like it. Or you get the courage to start unrest, brought on by the support of outside influences that supply you with the weaponary. Keep listening to those outside influences, and you will see more innocent lives lost because of your Islamic extremist leaders false courage.

The Israelies are there to stay, mandated by the United Nations of the world, to have their own country. You don't seem to understand the American psychy, that we wish to have peaceful negotiations, and pray for the unrest in middle east to subside. Or you play on that fact, and start the agression, so you can play the victims when your are dominated by a superior force. Your extremist leaders seem more than willing to sacrifice your peoples lives and send all of you to meet the virgins, just so you can play the VICTIM card. Well your brand of crazy is not bieng bought by anyone....

mqira

And in NON US news...Gaza retaliates for Israeli terrorist attacks on Gaza! Ooops! I guess we arent supposed to know this?

Really? When it's on every news station and website?

Ooops, I guess that f*cks up your conspiracy.

proudoftheusa, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. We do not live in Palestine or the Gaza Strip so we do not know both sides of the story. I did go to graduate school with a young lady from Palestine and we became friends for many reason of commonalities. Her story of Mossad insurgent groups going into the Gaza Strip and killing indiscriminately hundreds of civilians is a truism that does not make the news columns for a reason. Hit squads going in and murdering civilians would cause any group of people to retaliate against the aggressors. There are three sides to a coin and we have only seen one side of that coin. As an Agency operative told me he felt sorry for the Palestinians because of the aggressive nature and attacks by Israel.

Touche Rob!!

Intellect-1949393

perhaps you should go and visit, so you can SEE for yourself what is really going on over there instead of listening to lies from someone who was brought up to hate the Jews. Its a vicious cycle that just keeps repeating itself...I went there this summer and that is just not true.

Let's remind everyone what Hamas sees as their motive for attacking Israel, as expressed in Hamas’s own Charter.

Article 7 of the Hamas Charter reads:

http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/1609.htm
"The hour of judgment shall not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them, so that the Jews hide behind trees and stones, and each tree and stone will say: 'Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him,' except for the Gharqad tree, for it is the tree of the Jews."

Article 7 is taken from Hadith Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177.
and quotes the Prophet Muhammad:

http://www.hadithcollection.com/sahihbukhari/85/3715-sahih-bukhari-volume-004-book-052-hadith-number-177.html

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDohNq9BORo&feature=endscreen&NR=1

Behind the Scenes: Palestinian Demonstrations

See what the Palestinians teach their CHILDREN????

Armageddon approaches.

Not really.

We've seen this played out too many times to know how it's going to end, yet again.

Armageddon? Do you ever wonder why it's only religious people that claim this is approaching? It's almost like they encourage it.

Armageddon tired of it.

LordPyrinc, If only you were merely ignorant

Actually WWIII, where 1/3rd of the worlds population will die. Armageddon is a ways off yet.

GM Bill

Seems Armageddon is the by-line for anything happening in the ME. Gee, what about including some Nostradamus Quatrains - just for a change of pace! Wonder why nobody ever brings him up?

Personally I am a "Apocalypse-optimist: ie every thing is going to hell in a hen basket...but it will all tur out OK!!

GM Bill

Gee, what about including some Nostradamus Quatrains - just for a change of pace! Wonder why nobody ever brings him up?

gm Jack

Don't encourage the Nostradamus believers. I would be more inclined to lend them credence if they had ever used the quatrains to actually predict something instead of finding a link after the fact.

Armageddon? Do you ever wonder why it's only religious people that claim this is approaching?

How so? One doesn't have to be religious to see that the sh*t is hitting the fan really fast over there.

"Israel had shown great restraint"

Israel today, is the new old guys on the block with new weapons they want to use. They never wanted to work with Hamas, and the Palestine people. Not my call, not my country, not sending any of my son's or daughters to die for people that don't give a $hit for anyone but themselves. Israel is a lot like the USA, take and keep taking by beating people into submission through genocide. Take their land and resources, give them a little lot of land and tell them to live in peace. Age old story, nothing new here.. History is today's current events.

jack from Jax wrote: Seems Armageddon is the by-line for anything happening in the ME. Gee, what about including some Nostradamus Quatrains - just for a change of pace! Wonder why nobody ever brings him up?

jack, Nostradamus doesn't get a nod from the keepers of jesus' endtimes orthodoxy. But I'm with you, a few of those zany quatrains would sure lend some levity to an otherwise morbid fixation by the invisible man worshippers who are hell bent on all-out planetary war, disease and pestilence.

Isreal antagonizes the palestinians every day, you don't see it on fox news or msnbc. Gaza is the worlds biggest concentration camp in the world. Isreal controls it and 40% of the west bank. Isreal needs terror so it has an excuse to kill and steal. If the palestinians had any sense they would take a page from the biography of Ghandi. Isreal has never shown restraint, Ask the family of that English girl was run over in a protest deliberately by a soldier. Ask the men of the USS LIBERTY, american sailors murdered by isreal, sorry, no film at eleven.

And when the Muslims, Jews, and Christians have reduced one another to ashes, the Wiccans will inherit the Earth...

Armageddon? Where is the anti-christ in all of this. I heard somewhere he would be a man (or woman i suppose) who would claim to have the solution to all this turmoil in the middle east, fool Israel he was their long-awaited messiah, but in the end cause them to have great sorrow and loss. Is it finally coming together? Then again, maybe this has to do with the 12-21-2012 prophesy. Interesting.

Boromir: Really?

MYTH

“The Palestinians have never been offered a state of their own.”

FACT

The Palestinians have actually had numerous opportunities to create an independent state, but have repeatedly rejected the offers:

In 1937, the Peel Commission proposed the partition of Palestine and the creation of an Arab state.

In 1939, the British White Paper proposed the creation of a unitary Arab state.

In 1947, the UN would have created an even larger Arab state as part of its partition plan.

The 1979 Egypt-Israel peace negotiations offered the Palestinians autonomy, which would almost certainly have led to full independence.

The Oslo agreements of the 1990s laid out a path for Palestinian independence, but the process was derailed by terrorism.

In 2000, Prime Minister Ehud Barak offered to create a Palestinian state in all of Gaza and 97 percent of the West Bank.

In 2008, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert offered to withdraw from almost the entire West Bank and partition Jerusalem on a demographic basis.

In addition, from 1948 to 1967, Israel did not control the West Bank. The Palestinians could have demanded an independent state from the Jordanians.

The Palestinians have spurned each of these opportunities. A variety of reasons have been given for why the Palestinians have in Abba Eban’s words, “never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity.” Historian Benny Morris has suggested that the Palestinians have religious, historical, and practical reasons for opposing an agreement with Israel. He says that “Arafat and his generation cannot give up the vision of the greater land of Israel for the Arabs. [This is true because] this is a holy land, Dar al-Islam [the world of Islam]. It was once in the hands of the Muslims, and it is inconceivable [to them] that infidels like us [the Israelis] would receive it.”

The Palestinians also believe that time is on their side. “They feel that demographics will defeat the Jews in one hundred or two hundred years, just like the Crusaders.” The Palestinians, Morris says, also hope the
Arabs will acquire nuclear weapons in the future that will allow them to defeat Israel.

“Barak made a proposal that was as forthcoming as anyone in the world could imagine, and Arafat turned it down. If you have a country that’s a sliver and you can see three sides of it from a high hotel building, you’ve got to be careful what you give away and to whom you give it.”

— U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld 9

George Pauljohn:

You suggest that Palestinian Arabs feel humiliated and harassed when Israeli authorities search them and their belongings; when they are prevented from traveling freely because of checkpoints, roadblocks, closures and curfews.

George, in Israel, every Israeli is searched numerous times during the course of a single day. Israelis are asked to open their bags and purses for inspection. In most cases, they are subjected to body searches with a metal detector every time they enter a bank or a post office, pick up a bottle of milk at the supermarket, enter a mall or train station, or visit a hospital or medical clinic. Young Israeli men and women are physically frisked in search of suicide belts before they enter crowded nightclubs.

As a matter of routine, Israelis' car trunks are searched every time they enter a well-trafficked parking lot. Daily, their cars pass through roadblocks that cause massive traffic jams when security forces are in hot
pursuit of suicide bombers believed to have entered Israel.

Israelis are searched not only when they go out for a cup of coffee or a slice of pizza, but also when they go to the movies or a concert, where the term "dressed to kill" has an entirely different meaning.

These ordinary daily humiliations now extend to similar searches when Israelis go to weddings or Bar Mitzvahs. No one abroad talks about the humiliation Jews in Israel are subjected to, having to write at the bottom of wedding invitations and other life cycle events, "The site will be secured [by armed guards]" - to ensure relatives and friends will attend and share their joyous occasion.

Geroge, these ubiquitous security checks do not exist in Arab cities and towns in Israel (or, for that matter, in Judea and Samaria) because those places are not and never have been targets of Palestinian terrorism. In fact, the average Israeli is "humiliated and harassed" by being searched far more times
a day than the average Palestinian. Not one human rights group, nor you, has so much as noted this massive intrusion into the rights of privacy and person imposed on Israelis.

To date, no one protests the fact that, since the 1970s, Jewish schoolchildren in Israel are surrounded by perimeter fences, with armed guards at the schoolyard gates.

Not one Arab village in Israel has a perimeter fence around it. Guards are not required at Arab shops, cafes, restaurants, movie theaters, wedding halls or schools - either in Israel or in the Territories. Palestinians also do not need armed guards to accompany every school trip, youth movement hike or campout. They are not targets of terrorism.

Countless Israelis in sensitive areas within the Green Line - not only in the Territories, but also in Jewish towns, villages and bedroom suburbs - are "ghettoized" behind high fences.

Many Israeli motorists avoid major arteries that pass through Arab areas of Israel, while Arab citizens and Palestinians from the Territories continue to enter Jewish cities and go about their business without peril. Israelis are told, in effect, to disguise themselves when traveling abroad - not to speak Hebrew in
public and not to wear garments that reveal their Jewish-Israeli origins. Even Israel 's national airline - El Al - has been forced to remove its logo from the tails of its aircraft at certain airports, out of concern for the safety of its passengers. On the other hand, Arabs who frequent Jewish cities and towns in Israel wear their traditional Arab headgear without fear of being attacked or harassed.

George, all of this begs the question: Who is Humiliating Whom?

George PaulJohn: Why don't you google "Malls in Gaza" and see for yourself what a terriible ghetto they live in.

Basil, you are nothing but a zionist troll! The good Jewish people are embarrassed that the zionist controlled Likud party is trying to start WW III for their Rothschilds banking cartel masters.

Everyone has forgotten that the mufti of the Muslims declared the following:

"Amin al-Husayni, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and Chairman of the Arab Higher Committee, had collaborated with Nazi Germany during World War II. In 1940, he asked the Axis Powers to acknowledge the Arab right "to settle the question of Jewish elements in Palestine and other Arab countries in accordance with the national and racial interests of the Arabs and along the lines similar to those used to solve the Jewish question in Germany and Italy."

The 1.6 billion Muslims do not want the 5 million jews to live, let alone live in peace.

TV...there is nothing trustful about your comments and if you would read and research more, then maybe you could verify something. there was no reason for this nasty comment. to whom do you troll or is it all too obvious???

Armageddon It?

I love Def Leppard!

@Basil Romeo,

While I disagree with some of your premises, at least you are taking time to think through your posts and I appreciate that. I always learn more from those I disagree with than from those with whom I agree.

But I do take one exception with your historical vietpoint. The British were quite taken aback by the Arabs siding with the Germans in WWI and never quite got over it. Even though the British Empire was starting to fade by then, they still considered all Arab peoples as real or potential British subjects and the oil in those countries was their own property. As late as the admission of Turkey into NATO the British have still railed against the Turks, Arabs and Persians as "unworthy" and "traitorous" people who should be "of no account whatsoever."

The Palestinian Mandate was just a continuation of the "loser" British policies. The British had a bad habit of spiking the guns when they were forced out of ter empire through various independence movements, including the Mufti Revolution and Zionist movement. For example, when forced out of India, they divided the country into four parts ---- India, which was 80% Hiundu and 20% Muslim, East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) which was 80% Muslin and 20% Hindu, West Pakistan, also 80% Muslim and 20% Hindu, and Kashmir, which was 80% Muslim but controlled by India. This was all carefullyu set up to cause decades of unrest and internal chaos as "punishment." They did similar things in East Africa, South Africa, Egypt, and Palestine as they were forced out. They especially hated the Kurds in the mistaken belief that the Kurds were largely responsible for Galipoli. So they divided Kurdistan in sych a way that the Kurds no longer had a country and would always be a thorn in the side of Iran, Iraq, Syria, and especially their "special" enemy, Turkey. The Brits so hate the Turks that when Turkey was admitted to NATO, the Brits halved their participation (handing the bill to the US taxpayer.) While the US has not been blameless in all this (consider Iran as a case study) this has been mostly the result of calculated British efforts to cause trouble in their former colonies and among their WWI enemies. While the Brits "forgave" Germany and Italy for WWII, they still ban Turkish restaurants in London without "specialty permits because of their history of serving cats and rats as meat." (There is no such history.)

The Brits set all this up and it is playing out just as they intended --- perpetual chaos --- as punishment made for choices during WWI. The original major act of terrorism in the Middle East was still Irgun blowing up the King David Hotel (without warning) to try to terrorize the families of British officers. That is the seminal terrorist attack in Israel. It just didn't take the Arabs long to learn it from te hands of the masters.

Why does Egypt label Isreal as the "aggressor"? Not sure I can follow that logic. One of you Jew haters wanna tell me what up with that?

Basil,

I think you've been called a zionist troll at least 30 times in the last week. Clearly you are fighting the good fight my friend..lol

Chris: "The original major act of terrorism in the Middle East was still Irgun blowing up the King David Hotel (without warning) to try to terrorize the families of British officers. That is the seminal terrorist attack in Israel. It just didn't take the Arabs long to learn it from te hands of the masters." Thanks for your civilized reply. But unfortunately this last statement of yours is completely false. Pray Tell: Why start in the 1940s. Look up the 1920 Nabi Musa riots that took place during the Franco-Syrian war and you'll understand the beginnings of modern-day Arab-Israeli conflict (also look up Trumpledor and Tel-Chai).

Julius Robert Oppenheimer said "Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

WOW,

Why yes he did, well he wasnt the first to say that...but what relevance does that have on this article?

I think MRI meant the movie was on HBO this weekend....

Basil Romeo has one week suspension and all his posts are supposed to be deleted. Yet his posts continue to appear.

Basil has not said anything inflammatory, HvD. The suspension was because of cut and paste of an article without credit. This is not Basil's fault. He has complained for a while now about some glitch which will not allow him to post links on Newsvine. Clearly an oversight on his part not posting the credit.

tyler - any help for Basil here??? Has anyone else had this complaint and any suggestions on how to fix it???

Israel HAS A RIGHT to defend itself!

It would be like Canada or Mexico lobbing missles into the U S. OR Look at what we did in October of 1962, when Cuba pointed missles at US!! THANK GOD we didn't have a Obama brain for president, OR we would ALL be speaking Spanish or Russian!!!!!!!!!!

Regrettably, we have an imposture as president who aligns with the Muslim World. BUT, WE'VE known that, and the idiots still voted him back into office. LIKE SO MANY other issues, the ignorant ones choose to ignore it all and give him a pass on every failure and JUST WRONG policies.

Alexander Hamilton(First Sec of the Treasury): "The public is not smart enough or intelligent,to govern themselves"....HOW TRUE Mr Hamilton, HOW TRUE!

Chefaz I have the same issue and also sometimes I can't post in quotations....

Rob, have you tried to email Newsvine about the problem??? Basil has complained about this glitch for a while which is why he always copies and pastes entire articles in his posts rather than just provide links. This would have to be very frustrating. If you find a solution, please share the good news. Thanks, Rob.

tyler, Sally - can you please help??? Thanks.

Loslo, you're insane!

I'm so glad our President is keeping out of this war between religious crazies.

Let them kill each other. If they are truly faithful, then they will be with their God soon enough.

Well, Loslo, do you remember what Romney said at his infamous 47% meeting. Basically, the Palestinian/Israeli conflict cannot be resolved by the U.S. Nothing he would do.

At least we know Obama and his team will try.

@skny1026:

The United States has asked countries that have contact with Hamas to urge the Islamist movement to stop its recent rocket attacks from Gaza, a White House adviser said.

"We've ... urged those that have a degree of influence with Hamas, such as Turkey and Egypt and some of our European partners, to use that influence to urge Hamas to de-escalate," Ben Rhodes, deputy national security adviser, said in a conference call with reporters.

yep... they are trying real hard.... This little snipit from the article shows one thing.. US no longer has any influence in the region Thanks Obama. I'll say this he is "trying" probably as hard as Romney.. but not better.

At this point, what can America really do? Join in another war? We are mired in debt, we have a region in the US still suffering from natural calamities-we should help ourselves first. The goal of this president should be to improve our country's economy, bring unemployment down, secure our borders and not be distracted in more wars that the majority of the American people doesn't want.

I can't stand Obama. But I also had a relative that served on the USS LIBERTY. Let em kill each other and get it over with already. The Jews should had been like the Mormons. Nobody wanted Utah.

@ Daniel Cooper

Until the Americans got their and took it away from them while persecuting their belief system...

I agree we should not be involved in this. Our federal govt should be more like a "Rally the troops in time of need"(and thats about all they should do) not the "Largest military budget on the planet for moral wars".

be nice if we had a president that would try to bring peace there

Right, because not like every single President has tried and failed at this.

*rolls eyes*

be nice if we had a president that would try to bring peace there.

How do you bring peace to a region we have been arming for nearly 40 years?

Or is that Obama's doing as well?

Involvement in the Middle East does not have to constitute a US military presence unless there is a significant threat to the nation of Israel. Diplomacy has consistently failed because the vast majority of Muslim leaders in the area need to perpetuate conflict with Israel to secure their own positions and continue the rape of their individual country's. We force those folks to the table when they are placed in a position of needing peace more than they gain by continuing an active war against Israel. How can we do that - have the world in total quit buying any and all oil coming out of the middle east. Twist their balls by cutting off their wealth and they will come running to the peace table but the oil embargo must continue for several years to force those country's to totally deplete their cash reserves until they are truly desperate for relief from the embargo at any price.

Diplomacy has failed because Isfake has not honored a single agreement, they used the Oslo accords to steal the water from the west bank. I would like to see Canada come across our borders and claim your house as a settlement and kick you out. Id like to see them do half the crimes to you that isfake does to the palestinians. you would cry and I would laugh at you. It is people like you who have no clue, spread misinformation and swear to it, that make sure peace will never come.

Ternan,
That's the best comment I've read so far, if you give a bunch of radicals an endless cash flow they are going to do dumb $h/+ with it. Cutting off their cash flow would increase our oil production which will help us pull out of the hole that, I believe, we will never get out of. Plus as you said, when there reserves are depleted they will get down on their knees and beg the country that they despise so much for help!

true, he's supported uprisings that supplanted governments that were friendly to the West, and turned a blind eye to the revolutions against tyrants who were not friendly to the west. good luck to the Israelis, he will be blind to your conflict, even as the drums of rage beat across the Arab World

Ternan,

Nice emotive attempt. That is/was a Historical Failure. They have always have customers for their Centuries of Oil, especially those Nations that dislike the US And US Allies.

Historically, it has been the Longterm Strategic Goal of the Chinese and USSR (now Russian Federation) to get the US And US Allies out of their Backyards (Resources).

Ever since the Iran Iraq Wars the USSR used the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran as their "Proxy Fighter". This continues today with the Russian Federation, and add the Chinese, using the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran as their "Proxy Fighter".

The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran using the "Holy Warriors of Islam" as their "Proxy Fighters" Worldwide, by having the Iranian Special Forces, Quds, train, arm, fund the "Holy Warriors of Islam" to conduct Asymmetric Warfare against the US and US Allies Worldwide at the Fundamentalist Islamic Autonomous Kurdistanis Region of Northern Iraq, Eastern Syria, Southern Turkey, Northwestern Iran. The Millions of "Holy Warriors of Islam" as funded by the Trillions USDs per year of Mandatory Islamic Tithes from over 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers Worldwide, as well as being supported (weapons) by the Russian Federation and Chinese.

As my observation of the overall Human Condition: Until everyone stops painting themselves as someone else's victim based on their own Failed Individual Choices, and then demanding the taking (theft, legalized theft by creation of laws, armed force) from those that made their own sucessful Individual Choices, there will NEVER be Peace. This is also known as Rewarding Failed Individual Choices and Punishing Successful Individual Choices. - david-475776

With my observation in mind. Look at what the Fundamentalist Islamic Arab League of Nations did (Original Charter of the Extermination of the Jews). Instead of spending all their Nation's Wealth on developing their own Nations, they spent all of their Nation's Wealth buying Military Equipment from the then USSR for only one purpose, the extermination of the Jews. And what did the Jews do, they spent most of their money developing Israel, while the UN and US placed Arms Embargoes and Sanctions against Israel (start of Israel making their own weapons). So Israel shows up as a green speck surrounded by tan to brown (undeveloped) Arab Nations.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TbkIC-eqFNM/TDyUY8HYWCI/AAAAAAAAGWE/av7z0YpzUMY/s400/ArabLeagueMap.gif

Egypt's new Islamist president, Mohammed Morsi, viewed by Hamas as a protector, faces domestic pressure to act tough.

Morsi's interested now???

http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArchiveDetails.aspx?ID=444581

True, James. And we Inter-nuts knew from the start that the so-called "Arab Spring" was really nothing but an Extremist Muslim Winter.

Pretty convoluted thinking there. Let's simplify it. If I said "God sucks", that would be blasphemy. If I killed you because you said "Your God sucks", that would be murder. Any questions?

richard369,

Have you even read the Bible?

The 1st commandment is something like this, I am the Lord your God, You shall have no other gods before Me.

Thou shalt not kill is speaking of murder.

Have you not read Exo 22:2

If a thief is found breaking in, and is struck so that he dies, no blood shall be shed for him.

God also ordered his people to go to war on many occassons.

So why does God stand back and allow all those deaths to happen? If he has the power to turn guns into olive branches and rockets into falling leaves, why does he sit there bitching about the bloodshed while refusing to use his omnipotence to stop it?

Let the theological clowns come a-dancing into the ring to explain this now...

So, to believe in the hope of something better than this piece of crap society and world makes someone a religious fanatic? It's not narcacistic for God to ask that the people HE created to follow no other "God".. God is not evil.. If you look at the 10 Commandments, they are of good moral fiber.. To do good things is not evil, so to say that God is evil is well, very ignorant.. You can carry on yapping though, by all means I hear there is plenty of room in hell.. To be hethonous and live a life of greed, lust, and death, is not life that God created.. It's not God or religion that is at fault, it's man and his perception.. You can't fix crazy!!

Unclean

It is called "free will."

People make choices. People have consequences.

God is very clear about what is important to him. And people can reject his principals or accept them.

Gravity exists. You can abide by the principals of gravity or violate them. It is up to you.

Example of nation that defied God.

Nazi Germany

1 Samuel 15:3:

"Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."

This "god" is not moral; he is a monster.

It is hilarious how you will quote a scripture to support an argument of yours and then deny that the same God is going to do THE SAMETHING (as was done to the Amalekites) to the most of the evil mankind on this earth (which is at least 99% of it) with the ARMAGEDDON that you flat deny.

Maybe you should be Two Faced Bird?

Captain Jack fails to realize that our God gave us free will, as we were made in his image. His world is not perfect, and it is that way by our design, not his.

Without the bad there is no good. Without pain there is no satisfaction. Without our own evil we would have no reason to seek his salvation. In short, each event in our life is evaluated on a comparative basis. The great liberal lie is that we can all have hapiness if we have the same "stuff." The truth, however, is that without knowing how bad it can be, we would never know how good we actually have it.

God is not evil, Jack, we are. Those of us who know this work daily to correct our own evil ways. You, however, appear to be an infant in this journey.

Good luck.

Hold on there, in the middle, "our god" might not necessarily be the god of everyone. I believe you overstated your post with that assertion. Please try not to group all of us with the opiate of the masses. Some of us can think for ourselves and draw our own conclusions without the "Creationism postulation" notion quite well thank you.

if you are tired of all the ignorance, then why don't you go and get an education?

Al Kyda: (I'll respond to your post despite your moniker). Israel wants peace and no one is saying that they should "co-exist." Let Israel have Israel and let the Arabs have Palestine and let them both be well. Sounds simple, doesn't it!? The Arabs in the West Bank are doing quite well now because they opted to live in peace - for now. Get rid of Hamas and you'll see how well the Gazans will do.

Hi Al, the tea traitor thing is pretty good, but the tea party stands for Taxed Enough Already "TEA"

thanx

Al

Tea party members: John Hancock, John Jay, George Washington, John Witherspoon, Daniel Webster.

The real question is: who moved?

“It is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor.”
- George Washington

“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable.”
- George Washington

We beseech [God] to pardon our national and other transgressions…
- George Washington, Thanksgiving Proclamation 1789

Oh, eternal and everlasting God, direct my thoughts, words and work. Wash away my sins in the immaculate blood of the Lamb and purge my heart by Thy Holy Spirit. Daily, frame me more and more in the likeness of Thy son, Jesus Christ, that living in Thy fear, and dying in Thy favor, I may in thy appointed time obtain the resurrection of the justified unto eternal life. Bless, O Lord, the whole race of mankind and let the world be filled with the knowledge of Thee and Thy son, Jesus Christ.
- George Washington, Prayer

True religion affords to government its surest support.
- George Washington

Samuel Adams - Signer of the Declaration of Independence

I … [rely] upon the merits of Jesus Christ for a pardon of all my sins.
- Samuel Adams

We have this day [Fourth of July] restored the Sovereign to whom all men ought to be obedient. He reigns in Heaven, and from the rising to the setting of the sun, let His Kingdom come.
- Samuel Adams

The name of the Lord (says the Scripture) is a strong tower; thither the righteous flee and are safe (Proverbs 18:10). Let us secure His favor and He will lead us through the journey of this life and at length receive us to a better.
- Samuel Adams

The rights of the colonists as Christians…may be best understood by reading and carefully studying the institutes of the Great Law Giver and Head of the Christian Church, which are to be found clearly written and promulgated in the New Testament.
- Samuel Adams

United States Congressional Endorsement of the Bible and God

Congress printed a Bible for America and said:

“The United States in Congress assembled … recommend this edition of the Bible to the inhabitants of the United States … a neat edition of the Holy Scriptures for the use of schools.”
- United States Congress 1782

Congress passed this resolution:

“The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.”
- United States Congress 1782

John Witherspoon – Signer of the Declaration of Independence, Continental Congress

“He is the best friend to American liberty, who is most sincere and active in promoting true and undefiled religion, and who sets himself with the greatest firmness to bear down on profanity and immorality of every kind. Whoever is an avowed enemy of God, I scruple not to call him an enemy to his country.”
- John Witherspoon

It appears as though no one respects your narrow minded opinions Al. Why do you think that is?

It appears as though no one respects your narrow minded opinions Al. Why do you think that is?

Pythagoras, Copernicus, Galileo, Einstein... no one respected their "narrow minded opinions" (sic), either.

well, if you want this country to return to being a bunch of backwards farmers, al...

You do know that it's congress that votes on sending money there and not the President, right?

Damn knowing how our government works when you can just show blind hate, correct?

As long as we are sending 3 billion a year to Israel, we have to send Egypt 1.3 billion. This is on top of all the tanks, jets, missiles, arms and equipment congress agrees to send them.

If you were really serious, you would contact congress to review the accords set into place nearly 40 years ago.

When these new dollar amounts were set into place in 1986, who was President? Can we blame Reagan too, instead of congress?

Julius Robert Oppenheimer said "Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

You do know that it's congress that votes on sending money there and not the President, right?

You do know that the President uses his executive powers priviledge to bypass congress..right?

@pulsar182 - Yep, just like all US presidents, including Bush; yet no president made the decision to support Israel, our congress did, and I can hardly blame them considering that they are literally our only real allies in the region. Additionally, unlike most nation in the Middle East, the money wasn't just spent by the leaders, leaving their country unchanged. In fact, their standard of living is as good as ours, their level of education is great, and their economy is strong.

HINT: If you have read the BS email claiming Obama has use the executive order more than any other president, then your misinformed. Here is the number of executive order issued by presidents since FDR. Prior to 1900, they didn't keep count or even keep a record.

BHO: 135 Total Executive orders Issued
GWB: 291 Total Executive orders Issued
Clinton: 364 Total Executive Orders Issued
GHWB: 166 Total Executive Orders Issued
RR: 381 Total Executive Orders Issued
JC: 320 Total Executive Orders Issued
GF: 169 Total Executive Orders Issued
RN: 346 Total Executive Orders Issued
LBJ: 324 Total Executive Orders Issued
JFK: 214 Total Executive Orders Issued
DDE: 486 Total Executive Orders Issued
HT: 896 Total Executive Orders Issued
FDR: 3,728 Total Executive Orders Issued

John, explain why Eygypt, has completely shut down it's border crossing with Gaza, and talks about helping, but refuses to work with Hamas. Today, was window dressing, to quiet the MB in their backyard, cause they know what those louy's would do. Don't send them any crazy video's now. Killing ratio of 100 to 1? I guess Assad is 40,000 to 150, but who is counting, right? Go blow smoke up someone else's butt!!

John, maybe they should stop sending rockets into "the Jewish state". After all, given my size, I would think it would be unwise to pick a fight with Mike Tyson, for example. Also, their deprivation may be helped if instead of buying bombs they buy food or infrastucture.

You're well spoken, so I'll give you that. But you distract from your message by having such a biased and ignorant message.

Palestinians are no different than our welfare recipients- They produce nothing, don't take care of what they have and always just want more. They should never have let them have the Gaza strip. Big mistake. They have taken what was once beautiful land and decimated it.

Explain how giving Sinai back to Egypt and Gaza back to palestinians in exchange for "peace" constitute stealing land. Go ahead, spin it some more.

No, George, they left Israel in 1948, when the nation was declared, and their own leaders told them to leave because they would return in triumph when the Arabs won the ensuing war. Didn't happen.

No, George, they left Israel in 1948, when the nation was declared, and their own leaders told them to leave because they would return in triumph when the Arabs won the ensuing war. Didn't happen.

that is true....and much of the land was sold by Muslims to the Jews...only the hardline Muslims refused to recognize the legimate land sales...

Outstanding comment John WV. Notice all the Israeli trolls are out tonight?

UN was useless in 1967 and is useless today on Lebanese Syrian borders.

I know it is wishful thinking but it is the only one that we currently have. I will not support a unilateral action by the US nor will the majority of the American people (I think). Any country who wants to be a member of the security council should be prepared to provide security to the world. If you are not willing to provide boots on the ground then you shouldn't be in the Security Council in the first place. It is so frustrating to hear Russia and China vetoing proposals before them just because they can. If Russia and China have soldiers (providing peacekeeping duties) in Syria right now, I bet you their leaders will be more inclined to help in brokering peace because nobody wants their sons and daughters to return home in caskets. No sane leader will want that blood in their hand.

NJreader, I agree and Palestine asked the UN for protection against Israel but Israel refused to let the UN in. WHY? Because Israel does not want anyone to see the killing that they commit daily in Gaza. People on here say let them fight it out! I agree, except give the Paliestinians the same weapons and training we give the Israeli's and make it a fair fight. If we backed the Paliestinians like we do Israel we would have a true and loyal allie, not a back stabber like Israel.

Agreed 100% NJ. Parker, stop making stuff up. Also, "true and loyal" what?!?! Hamas shares the same ill will for us as the people who killed over 3,000 Americans on 9/11. No one's buying your bs.

No in the middle, you are the liar. Anyone can see your hatred and bias here. It was the 5 Mossad agents high fiveing in the streets as the first plane went into the WTC. NOT ARABS. It's on you tube for all to see. In Israel they said they were here to document the events. How did they know it was going to happen? No in the middle, YOU are truly a liar. God hates liars.

I'm right with God, so say what you like. Otherwise, I also saw a video of bigfoot on you tube, so I guess he's real too.

;)

Can't do that MJ. Especially not where Isreal is concerned. Us Christians and Jews and Muslims view it has part of the Holy Land. It is a historic and religious chunk of real estate that is important to many people, including millions of us in the United States.

Please dont tell me that you think America goes to the middle east to help stop wars, you cant possibly be that naive, because we dont go anywhere else in the world to "help out" unless there is somehow a way to strip that countries resources down.

I'm with Johnson. We have decades of evidence that shows we are not helping. Let them kill each other if they like. Eventually someone will win and we can establish a relationship with them only if it is an equitable one.

It's their mess. Let them handle it.

Working fine for me so far. No one I know is fighting over there or is that what kind of foreign policy you're advocating for -

Hey, to all of those who voted for obama how is that mid-east policy working.

So you were just born yesterday?

Why was president 10 years ago? Twenty years ago? Thirty years ago?

How often do you have to pump oxygen into that little bubble you live in?

These two sides have been attacking each other for decades, with our weapons no less, but since you live in an apparent vacuum, the conflicts only started on November 6th, correct?

I expect to see a lot of vote ups for your ignorant comment since it attacks the President. Even though it was the Reagan administration in 86 that changed the accords to further arm both sides. Apparently though, your mind can't think past ten days at a time.

hey tony, troll season is over, you can go now.

I don't like the man either, but this is not about Obama. He's a failure for other reasons.

Dear Ruger. I think you're on to something. We tried helping to find a peaceful resolution to this conflict for decades, and it isn't working. I'm really sick of it and we need to quit trying and let them settle it themselves. If they want to continue killing each other for another hundred years, that's their business. Enough is enough.

John, we have not tried to solve this problem at all. We are one sided torwards Israel. We say it is wrong for them to have settlements but vote at the UN in favor of Israel everytime. And people really need to know that Hamas was started by the Israeli Mossad to go against the PLO. It has worked perfectly for Israel. All you Israeli trolls, OBAMA WON AND PALESTINE IS BECOMING A NON MEMBER STATE on the 29th. SEE YOU AT THE HAGUE NETANYHOO AND COMPANY. Happy days are here again and we'll be dancin in the streets.

Ruger

I was in Israel in 1977. Our Arab bus driver was "let me be clear" about Israel's future.

It had none. It's future was at the bottom of the ocean.

They're probably our nukes anyway.

We've kept the top on this pressure cooker for more than 40 years. Sometimes, you just can't stop the inevitable from happening. Both sides have strong convictions that support their objectives. I fear that we're only seeing the beginning and there's not much we can do as a nation but either watch or pick a side. Whatever the case, we've fought the proxy wars trying to stop this madness and it's done nothing. They're either going to solve this diplomatically or militarily but, it should be them who solves it and not the American people. Over 10 years of war in the Middle East and countless of wounded and dead Americans has only postponed what's been building over there for years. Protect the Straits of Hormuz, our Embassies and provide military assistance in terms of hardware but no boots on the ground or combat aircraft in the air. We've done enough for both camps; we've taken out many of their own despots and we've tried to broker peace between the regional players and the only thing we've got to show for it is massive debt and 9/11.

Radicals on one side vs. Radicals on the other. What could possibly go wrong here??? I wish both of them the best of luck, just don't involve anyone else in your insane behaviors.

the "heart of the arab world" is wherever the arabs think it should be on that day

Blasphemy is whatever the Muslims claim it to be...

I agree, 100%. The problem is Israel usually over-does it, which just makes the Palestinians hate them even more and it keeps going on and on and on. I would hope there are many innocent Palestinians that want to live in peace and are against Hamas, but they cannot control the situation.

Israel should not leave this time until a sensible government is in place in Gaza and the remaining Hamas leadership is caught and executed for crimes against humanity.

Israel has to "overdo" it each and every time. The world's enemies are ON Israel's front AND back porch. Any show of weakness, they are history.

gchomps how much do you really know about this region? By what you say you know nothing. Hamas was started by the Israeli Mossad to go against the PLO. Please read to gain knowledge and speak intelligently on the subject. Israel assassinates people in Gaza daily. They shot and killed to young boys playing soccer and want the Palestinians to accept this. If I was their father I would not rest until those Israeli's that were responsible were dead. I do not believe in killing but you mess with my children and I will go after you with all I've got. Go on you tube and see the Palestinian babies with bullet hole right between their eyes. What could a 6 month old baby do to deserve this? The location of the bullet shows it was intentional. These are not God's chosen people who do this.

I imagine God also frowns upon those who randomly send explosive rockets into heavily poulated areas. Parker sure seems to hate Jewish people. I wonder what they did to him.

Back to the original post, yes, I think that this should be finished this time. My only wish is that U.S soldiers and resources are not involved.

Kill the nest of viper Israel. Only Muslims shoot children in the head. We have one brave little girl in the hospital in England. http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=girl+shot+in+head&view=detail&id=7A856C661B77239DEDD2F91EE48EBC92AE009E96&first=1

You are

absolutely

correct

Yeah, and George W & Dick Cheney showed us a couple of things: It's OK to start two trillion dollar wars IF someone threatened your daddy AND those two wars have not only cost us our best and brave soldies, and cost us bilions and billions and made Haliburton and Dick Cheney extremely wealthy, but has created a new new generation of jihadists and warriors. A real christian, that George W, As for pshyco Dick Cheney, he's cut up everyone including George W, Colondese Rice, Donald Rumsfeld, What a first class backstabber. Yeah, I had to live with 8 years of that bull$%$% while NO one from the right said a thing. Eat it.

You losers are showing you short comings again. Netanyahu is nothing but a bully and isn't close to President Obama level and it's the Republicons fault for Benghazi after they turned down a request for more security funding for our Embassy when the Obama State Dept. asked them for it. So start blaming yourselves for Benghazi you tools.

You are righ about Nenanyahoooo. He is a war monger. The Isrealis COULD make peace with the West Bank Palestinians and leave Hamas in the dust. As for Behghazi, I have to say it sounds more and more like the CIA or FBI dropped the ball and if so, it goes back to Obama. I hate the Tea Paryt and all the Obama hates. They are liars and sore losers. The difference between them and me is I won't spin out scandals or bad policy. Obama wants diplomacy and change over allies at any cost and more wars. However, allowing our diplomats to be brutally attacked without adequate protection or some type of justice is wrong. I hope the truth comes out and Obama rights this or apologizes or changes strategy. We don't need more wars and we don't need more dictators who are our friends. That's the republican way.

MJ

Is a Jewish hater..Also he follows the lies of Piped Piper Obama..Ok MJ, who else are you going to believe that tickles your ear?

Hummm - I see that you are still buying into the Romney rant. For what it's worth, this thing we see happening now has been brewing since 47'. Many of the nation states have been able to contain it for the past 60 years or so but now, both sides are hell bent on removing each other. Tell me, what would you do as Commander and Chief at this stage beside standing on the side line drinking the GOP talking points about foreign policy; I assume the neo-con formula is how you want us to handle this. Well, look at the fiasco of Iraq to see how well that went for us ...

Sorry paragus but unlike you, I live in reality. Do I hate Jews? No. But I do hate the fact that the country of Israel thinks they are entitled to whatever they want. They aren't and that is why I DIS-LIKE the country of Israel and anyone that follows that thinking. You HATE...I dislike.

Also unlike you and all the other religious sheep I use my brain that the creator gave me to think for myself on what my eyes and ears see and hear. It's called independent thinking. You really should try it instead of just doing what the man in the robes tell you what to think.

Good Ol' Dog says : 2) his incompetence resulting in the tragedy in Benghazi .

Well Mr. Dog, according to your logic I can blame Bush for 9/11. 4 killed in Benghazi VS 5000 killed in 9/11.

Mj, You ever lived Israel? Do even understand their history? ever know what it's like to be a race without a country? Ever been part of a race that lost nearly half of your kind in a Holocaust? Ever live in a neighborhood where all your neighborshate you because you were there first? Ever been, oh hell no you haven't or you would not write such stupid things. Remember walk a mile in their shoes before you judge and accuse.

Kip there are no such things as jews. Hitler came up with that name. Hebrews are God's chosen people and they do not come from eastern europe. Hebrews do not say their athiest or secular like the eastern european imposters. God will bring His chosen people back and the bible clearly states that the followers of Christ are now the chosen ones.

Obama has as much to do with this as the Easter Bunny. Sure, he sucks, but stay focused.

Parker, the Jews are gonna be pissed when they find out they don't exist.

Oh, I dunno pj...you've posted before that you are Jewish and now say there are no such thing as Jews. Your posts never jive with previous posts.

I've asked you several times before but yet you don't bother to answer. What is your story??? From the looks of your posts, seems like you just make it all up as you go along. Trolling for attention maybe???

taken from the document "the history of Palestine"

It is very important and essential for the occidental native and especially the American one to learn about some facts that he might have never come across before . Facts about the history of the Middle East, which is the epicenter of tension in the world. For undoubtedly the conflict in Palestine is the reason behind many problems around the world, starting from what has come to be known as terrorism, to the deepened hostility towards America, and the tension of relationships among countries, all this threatens of a flare-up in these relationships that no one can predict its repercussions. Thus it is rendered a necessity for the American citizen to know why such conflict in the Middle East originated between what is known as Israel on one part and the rest of the Arabic world, on top of which is Palestine on the other part. One can never know full well the reasons behind such conflict, unless by delving deep into the history of the region, in order to unveil the truth of the real proprietor of this land, are they the Jews, who believe to be God’s chosen nation, and that He has promised it to them, or they are rather the Palestinians after whom the land is named? Let us first shed light on the information, which the Americans hold concerning the history of Palestine, through studying their stances, then we will probe into the history of the region for thousands of years back till our contemporary time.