TrustVerify - on behalf of myself and everyone living in tel aviv, go F yourself. you have no clue what youre talking about. now, if you'll excuse me, i'm gonna go back to protecting my life from palestinian rockets. i'm sure they don't mean to hurt me being that palestinans are peaceful, kind, honest, humanitarians. perhaps the rockets are filled with aid and candy.

You have been reminded (selective memory) of USS Stark, USS Cole, WTC, Ft. Hood, the second 9/11, etc, but you only remember 50 years ago, not three months ago, which is normal behavior for a radical muslim and their sympathizers. That alone made the rest of your rant irrelevant.

Why is it that If the Egyptian Brotherhood hates Israel and the Americans so much... They are more than willing to accept our millions of dollars in foreign aid...

Again, your selective memory, were there any rockets fired into Israel during the past few months without Israel retaliating? Patience with you radical muslims has a limit, and the limit has been reached.

TrustVerify.........

Remember the USS Liberty.....Yes, the Israelis admitted they made a mistake, were still amateurs at war and paid restitution. You left out those facts.

Remember the St Louis? A ship full of Jews trying to escape Nazi Germany was not allowed to land in the the U.S. It was denied landing at multiple ports, eventually forcing it's return to Germany, where many of the Jews were than killed by the Nazis.

The goal of the followers of the moon god is to elicit Israeli retaliation. Accordingly, they will keep firing these rockets until that happens. They will then claim Israel is the aggressor and the morons at the UN will agree by drafting a resolution condemning Israel and calling for withdrawal.

for the record, israel didnt attack until AFTER 130 rockets were fired from gaza. how does that make israel the aggressor? if anything, i believe it shows restraint. if it were in the US, there would be a war after just 1 rocket.

Man, those Hamas terrorists are some sick perverted bastards!

Someone sent me these links that show how Hamas deliberately hide their rockets and ammunition under civilian homes, and kindergartens, and right next to Mosques!

h t t p : / / wn . com / Hamas_terrorists_using_children_as_human_shields # / videos

AND:

h t t p : / / en . wikipedia . org /wiki/Human_shield#By_Palestinians

How sick is that?

These medieval bastards have to be eradicated! They deliberately endanger their own children and send them to their deaths, just to win a few propaganda points! They are worse than cannibals!

And the craziest thing, is that Israel already left Gaza about seven years ago, but those terrorist Hamas dogs kept firing rockets all that time! And they say they won't stop until ALL "Palestine" is liberated. They want to kick the Jews out of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem as well! These Hamas dogs are genocidal!!! You can read it in their charter, and in everything they say. They want all of "Palestine" to be cleansed of all the Jews! And they gladly use their children as suicide bombers and as human shields in order to achieve this goal!

To NBC: "Two Israeli women run for shelter as air raid sirens sound in the Israeli capital Tel Aviv." The capital of Israel is not Tel-Aviv. It's Jerusalem and always will be. So much for biased reporting.

@h101,

Sorry, but the Israeli's NEVER admitted any mistake in the attack on the USS Liberty and did not pay restitution. Congress paid restitution to the families of those killed (but not those wounded) out of "pipeline" military aid funds (money that was approved but not yet sent to Israel.) Congress then added back in the "deleted" funds into Israeli military aid.

Here is a link to the USS Liberty survivors' site: http://www.ussliberty.org/voices.htm

It is especially important to hear it in their own voices. Elsewhere on the site are recountings of the events that are not clouded or obscured by American or Israeli propaganda.

At the time that the incident happened, I was a Southwestern USSR Aid Defense Analyst at the European Watch Center in London. I had met many of the Liberty RIOs in requirement briefings and subsequent pub crawls. There were just fresh-faced kids (I was an "older guy" in my early 20's.) I have listened to the NSA tapes of the incident and I can say without equivocation that the IDF pilots and patrol boats that attacked the Liberty a) knew what ship it was and that it was an American intelligence ship, b) knew that it was in international waters off Egypt, c) actually enjoyed shooting up a defenseless American ship, especially the patrol boats that enjoyed shooting up te hoses and personnel of the damage control teams, and d) all ran like hell when the were told by the IDF that Sixth Fleet jets were on the way. (That information was given the IDF by Mossad spies in the US Navy at the time.)

If you want to see what the IDF thinks of the US military, go look at any of the "Free Jonathan Pollard" sites, many of which are in English. (Here's a link to just one that is funded by the Israeli government: http://www.jonathanpollard.org/ ) Pollard was an Israeli spy in the USA Navy and the Israelis are still livid that he is stil in jail. There are literally scores of such Israeli-funded sites and they have sme pretty choice anti-US hate speech on the.

I can't even imagine the United States being fired on by hundreds of rockets and the US doing nothing. This blows my mind. What are the MB trying to prove by firing rockets on Israel? Israel has a right to defend itself. I wonder how many countries are pulling the Pal's strings? Are we going to stop giving Egypt money yet? We could always take the money and pay off the Debt or help the US economy...wait, that is just so "common sense," ALL of Washington would never go for it...the Party Lines don't matter for that one!

I will state one thing...Children have been used for Centuries in war. Heck, the word Infantry comes from Romans using Children first in battles (they were infants). It seems they are still being used in the Middle East...SAD!

To NBC: "It was always said that as long as Hamas only rocketed towns in the south of Israel, generally poorer and far from the centers of power, their low-intensity provocations could continue for years." Really? That is the greatest piece of malarky I have heard in years. Please provide your sources. You are quickly losing credibility as an unbiased reporter.

Chris-749391

@h101,

Sorry, but the Israeli's NEVER admitted any mistake in the attack on the USS Liberty and did not pay restitution.

Yes they did.

This is about current attacks and not about the USS Liberty. That is a distraction! Israel has been bombarded with rockets launched by Hamas and supplied by Iran. Both governments have called for the complete destruction of Israel.

If the US were being bombarded by rockets from one of the Native American tribal homelands how long would it take before we send in the troops? The Palestinians were given almost everything they wanted during the Clinton administration in an effort to create a peace agreement but they refused repeatedly. The final 2 sticking points were issues that would have meant them giving up their most holy site and the complete destruction of Israel.

When the US returns Native American lands, many S. American countries and Australia return lands to their indigenous natives, Arabic countries return lands to the Kurds and other cultural groups, Egypt returns lands to the various repressed groups, Russia & China returns lands to their various groups, Muslims pull descendants of their invading peoples out of Europe and return them to Turkey & Persia (Iran) then other nations can talk about returning lands. Very few of us are living in wilderness lands that were settled in a peaceful manner and not taken from someone at some point. We humans are such hypocrites.

hi basil, thank you. just panicked last night at the first rocket because the phones went out and i didnt know what was going on. i'm staying in, just hoping for peace. that siren goes off though and every muscle in my body shakes. after the boom, it takes me a good 15 minutes to remember to breathe.

Everyone there is a terrorist. Israel is a terrorist as well as the Gazans. Lets just leave them all alone and worry about our country and let them kill eachother. Israel is far from innocent as few with power are. While Gazans have little power than to be frustrated and lash out at Israel in any way it can, including killing innocent people. Israel has killed innocents as well, turks, palestinians and even americans. An american woman was run over by an israeli army bulldozer while protesting Israel destroying palestinian homes. They all deserve what they get, and if we want to take sides there too, well we will get what we deserve as well. Just wait till the next 9-11

rockemebritney - I am with you. Came up from Eilat today to Tel Aviv to visit family, show support. High time we stopped the rockets on Shderot and others. Hang tight. My daughter doesn't have a bomb shelter, so we rigged up a sheltered area in a central room. Wishing you a peaceful night.

Rockmebritney and serenewatcher: I know how you feel. I was in Israel during the Yom Kippur war (73) though no bombs exploded where I lived. Fear not, this too shall pass and I hope with minimal casualties.

After each rocket a building should be bombed. Next rocket 2 buildings, next rocket 4 buildings, then 8, 16, 32, etc. Eventually they'll either stop firing rockets, or be destroyed.

Fajr 5 rockets come from Iran by the way. Sounds like we're getting real close to Bibi's red line.

serenewatcher - you be safe, too. i have no family here. im glad to hear youre with your daughter. plus, tel aviv is at least safer than eilat. goodnight!!

Israelis should kick warmongers like Netanyahu out of the office. It is the politicians on both sides that are the problem.

@Ixor Kleb,

The Israelis "apologized" for an accident that occurred in the "fog of war." This was not an accident. It was a deliberate attempt to sink "without a trace" a known American US Navy vessel in international waters.

Try www.ussliberty.org for accurate and factual information. Dean Rusk summed it up very nicely:

"Dean Rusk, Johnson's Secretary of State (in the only known instance where he disagreed with the President) wrote:

"We also lost 34 American lives when, on June 8, the fourth day of the war, the U.S. communications ship Liberty came under air and naval attack. We were meeting with President Johnson in the White House situation room, considering the implications had the Soviets or Egyptians attacked the ship, when we received word from Tel Aviv that Israeli forces were responsible. That didn't please us, although an Israeli attack on Liberty was far easier to deal with. But I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation. Their
sustained attack to disable and sink Liberty precluded an assault by accident or some trigger-happy local commander. Through diplomatic channels we refused to accept their explanations. I didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them to this day. The attack was outrageous."

Rusk's memoirs: "As I Saw It" (W.W.Norton, 1990) p388

This incident is relevant. Period. It is a clear and present indication that the word of the Israelis cannot be trusted unless it exactly fits the paranoid Israeli view of the world where everyone (including the United States) stands against them.

@Mike,

And your contention that we would do the same if Native Americans were firing rockets from tribal homelands. Hate to disapppoint your racist nonsense, but we did that already and we didn't even have the excuse of rockets. We just took the land, killed them, and make the same specious claims that you are making.

The proof is that today the poorest 15 counties in the United States are all on Indian Reservations. The largest debt the US has is a $3 trilllion in stolen oil and mineral revenues that is owed to the tribes collectively (every Interior Secretary since FDR has been charged with federal contempt of court for failing to pay what is owed.) I would feel fairly certain that this is about what the Israelis have in mind for the Palestinians.

Its hateful racist thinking like yours that starts wars (that we then proceed to lose) at great cost of blood and treasure. Too bad you're on the outside of humanity looking in.

What if no one showed up for a party....What if NO ONE showed up for a War SatanYOOHOO?? You went behind OUR President's back to peddle your Delancey Street "red line CRAPOLA, YOU Goys go to war for israel!!" uuhhh.... so little jason isn't disturbed from his cocktail party in tel aviv while getting a ..Yuck, You are ALSO such Perverts, a bloinkin. You want a war FATSO? then go to it and leave Our Fine Young American Sons and Daughters Alone. You netanYoohoo/SatanYooHoo are bound for One Place ONLY, Home. Better Bring a Large AirConditioner and A RR BoilerCar Shovel for that Mt.Everest Pile of WhiteHot Coal and the Infinite Many After That One Moron.....

Why is NBC showing people in Tel Aviv (who thought they were too good to be fired upon) - why are they sunbathing on the beach - that doesn't sound like they are terrified to me!

Yes, I have friends is Israel, I know a Rabbi in Brooklyn (from Israel as well) - he is a very holy man, yet he wants the Palestinians gone - no matter the cost. We argue about this all the time - we agree to disagree, however, he advocated that Israel take Palestinians by force, killing, etc.... I never wished this on the Israelis - so our truce is in effect but Israel is just killing innocent Palestinians - Israel will drag the world into WWIII - Egypt's Morsi is seen as weak in his own country.... he needs to support the Arabs with whom he shares a border - not because he cares, but because he must to stay in power, as the US supports the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood (Google it), Netanyahu will have more blood on his hands than any leader in the last 50 years and what for? I don't think he even cares - mutual destruction is not a deterrent for him. BTW - I doubt any Palestinians feel "safe" enough to have a day at the beach!

@(the real) TrustVerify - it's very nice to see you back again!

Like I have said before, who give a damn.

I sure dont. Nobody want peace there. And that goes for both the Palestinians and the Israel.

Give BOTH side all the weapons of ANY KIND they want and then have a go at each other.

If nobody come out of that alive so what, big deal I sure don't care. If they get a brain storm and finally get serious about peace well better for them but after all those years i doubt that very much.

Either way I dont give a damm, all they do is costing me money that I don't have. And the oil prices will skyrocket. See that, costing me money that I don't have.

The USS Liberty incident was apologized for by Israel and we were paid millions of dollars in reparations. For those of you that think it was deliberate, you obviously don't know what was happening during that war. About the commenter who talked about Israel trying to steal all the land in the region, the lines were only redrawn in '67 because three countries attacked Israel and all got their asses handed to them so badly that Israel pushed them back into their own countries as a show of force(almost all of which has been returned btw). Lastly, I know nobody mentioned this here, but I've seen this thrown around a lot, but I'm a democrat and I side with Israel and hope all of the Israeli people come out of this as strong as ever. Good luck and God bless.

TrustVerify . . . Who do You Hate more. . . . the Jews or Bankers??

The point is, You Hate. That is a very unhealthy quality . . any Israeli or Palestinian can tell you that my friend.

Chris... you are showing yourself as a bigoted hypocrite! I am of Cherokee descent, read about the trail of tears sometime, perhaps you can learn something. The US has done horrific things to Native Americans, yet when have you seen land being returned? If you live in the US, have you given any recompense for taking our lands or demonstrated in support of returning lands (1/2 of the Eastern US)? Do you hear native Americans complaining that they want their lands back or launching rockets at US cities? NO! There have been court battles, and a few times the FBI or others stepped in to impose US will, but Native Americans have more honor than being terrorists and most just want to be respected for who they are and raise their families to be successful. The vast majority no longer even live on "reservations" and contrary to popular belief most are not alcoholic drug addicts and many are doctors and lawyers.

So it's time for you to end your being hypocritical about Israel and shut your mouth, also if you live in the US get out of my home land! I want it back!

Do not worry, Israel. Oblama will go on the View and discuss your problem

Ah some of that famed Israeli arrogance that acccording to their own religion got them the pleasure of wandering the desert for 40 years.

Hello Truth&Logic, I don't hate anybody, especially the Jewish people who are different then the zionist faction. They are prisoners of their zionist Likud party who has wrought death and destruction in their plight to control the Middle East. The sinking and murders of the USS Liberty and the attempted assassination of American General Dempsey should tell you all you need to know about Israel’s zionist faction.

Now the bankers, that's another story. They have robbed and pillaged innocent hard working people for their grotesque lust for greed and power. When people rob banks they got to prison, when banks rob people they get bonuses.

I think it is an absolute travesty to have a private corporation of mostly foreign banksters control the currency of the American citizens. They create money out of thin air and "loan" it to us with the unmitigated gall to add interest on to their monopoly money. They are the reasons you and I are debt slaves.

Have you noticed that any country with a central bank is bankrupt? How many banking scandals is it going to take before you wake up and smell what they have been shoveling? Here’s a brief and I mean very brief list of the most recent scandals.

The international banking elite with tacit approval from Democrats and Republicans has given the world 1.4 Quadrillion in derivatives fraud, the HSBC drug laundering fraud, the MF Global fraud, the PFG fraud, the high frequency trading pilfering and stock market fraud, the manipulation of the precious metals and bond market fraud, the MERS mortgage fraud, nearly countless individual frauds from both Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan, and the 800 trillion international LIBOR interest rate fixing banking fraud, just to name but a few recent FRAUDS and breaches of bankster credibility and trustworthiness.

While it’s true I don’t like bankers and psychopathic leaders like Netsayahoo, I do love the good Jewish people who want peace like all normal people.

ussliberty.org is a crank site. They claim no investigation was done. That is a lie. I have seen with my own eyes the documentation that was part of the Congressional investigation.

Ok Trust, breaking it down . . .

1. Any Jewish person (I have a sister in-law who is) will tell you that "Zionism" as you refer to it merely reflects the desire of the Jewish people to have a Jewish homeland. Most Americans today, and the U.N. (at the time Israel was created after the WWII atrocities) agreed with that. Most Americans now would also state that the Palestinians also deserve a homeland. There is the problem that all sides claim the same sacred territory. There have been atrocities all around and the Palestinians are in a deplorable situation. Stoking more hatred around the situation further guarantees no solution.

2. Regarding central banks . . are you sure these are "private entities"? They are associated with specific Countries and the Governments of those Countries APPOINT their leadership. I guess I see them more as Government associated entities. That is why Mr. Bernanke's is always testifying before the U.S. Congress and restricts his activities to the U.S.

3. Regarding your 2nd to last paragraph . . Fun!! You make the "schemes" sound like Casino games!! ( which they probably are!). I see it this way . . similar to how our government is currently slicing up their revenue pie!

Lets do an EXPERIMENT . . . . If I take a group of 4 (well-fed, not hungry) Chimpanzees (or Bonobos) and give them each a large pile of bananas to trade, eat, etc. eventually some of the Chimps will end up with larger piles of bananas (this is the greed you describe among the bankers who see accumulation as a game). Or I could simply start with an unequal distribution of bananas and that would be the starting point for the experiment that many countries, incl. U.S. are at. All the chimps with less would think about is how to get some of the larger pile behind the more successful chimps, and all the chimps with the bigger piles would think about is how to protect their bananas. This is that same greed you claim only bankers have, but I think it is Everywhere. Now there may be minor differences, more violence among chimps, sex among bonobos but it is the same "Greed" that under lies Human Nature.

Neither you, I, nor governments can likely escape this issue of acquiring & redistributing bananas. And we are lucky that it is only Bananas in contest here, not LAND like in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

I wish I could be more optimistic, but even if you gave the Chimps a Government . . you would not expect it to reflect anything other than the base Ambitions of the Chimps!!!

If you have found a way to escape all that let me know Trust . . isn't that why some smart people go away? Think Flynt in the original Star Trek "Requiem for Methuselah".

You, Jewish/Israelis and you Muslim/Arabs are the same peoples. You are both Abrahamists--from the same beginning. It is normal to have family spats, but not to the extent of mutual extermination. Just kiss and make up and the world will have some peace--you will have some peace.

OR would you rather live your lives in war and spend eternity at each others throats? That is not God's will. It is satan's will. Which of these two do you want to spend eternity with?

Hello Truth&Logic, there is a big difference between Zionism and Judaism.

Judaism describes the Jewish faith whereas Zionism defines the philosophy behind an exclusive Jewish state which is the physical and spiritual homeland meant exclusively for the Jewish people. The latter is a very fundamentalist outlook, and is much reviled, particularly amongst the Arabs and many traditional Jews as they are subordinate to the fanaticism of their leaders like Netsayahoo.

All Zionist are Jews, but not all Jews are Zionists. There are Jews in many parts of the world. Most of them live in Israel and America. Now all of them certainly believe in Judaism, but not all of them would subscribe to the hard-line exclusivist vision of the Zionists. The Zionist movement arose in Europe in the late nineteenth century out of a desire to end the exile of the Jewish people and return them to the holy land by force if necessary. Initially they found very little support among the Jewish populace but could make some impression after the horrors of the Second World War, as perpetrated on the Jews, made them pay heed to this notion. Judaism on the other hand simply means living by the tenets of the Jewish holy book, the Torah. Whatever befell them was the will of God, as expressed through the Torah and there never was any attempt to forge any sort of a national, political or sectarian agenda, they just want to live in peace like most people. The Zionists have an extreme fundamentalist agenda and I think we all know anything fundamentalist does not end well for those involved.

In terms of banksters, come on, it’s not human nature to be evil, it is your intent that determines your actions.

What if the only thing resulting from the awakening is humanity's appreciation that living in a world of lies doesn't work? Can you imagine the impact that would have on Our Culture, not to mention on our financial system? Picture a culture that does not permit lying: if a politician lies, he's replaced; if a lie is tendered, you walk away as if the liar just vomited, if a business claim is determined to be a lie, you are out of business. Imagine.

Now imagine making personal, business and societal decisions based only on truthful facts. Imagine the evolutionary moral and ethical benefits our society would naturally gain. Imagine the heights humanity could achieve with this kind of power. Imagine!

One thing I know that is very powerful is intent. If we individually and collectively leverage our intent it would be like the 100th Monkey Effect and I believe that is the direction we are heading.

Trust . . I think she gets all that. But are you suggesting that as merely an ethnic group Jews don't deserve a "homeland"?? Even though the world decided they did after the atrocities of WWII? However, if that is your suggestion it is somewhat interesting . . on that basis the Kurds, Armenians, and so many others (at least a hundred could be named!!) "ethnic" groups do not deserve a "homeland" either. Everyone should live together in a few nations under one large government like one big happy family?? But that ignores the fact that Chimps are known to be highly Territorial!!

As a fellow truth seeker, I firmly agree that Lies prevent human progress, How can one ever make a logical decision if one doesn't know the truth? However, here we are again. . . that human nature thing. When does a child first learn to lie?? Although we know animals are capable of deception, proving lying is harder because lying typically requires language. Perhaps it is one of the undesirable features that distinguishes us from animals. (Maybe that is why dogs make such great pets!)

So here we are, back to Chimp world and the groups "going Chimpanzee" on the border in Israel. Who are the good Chimpanzees and who are the "bad" chimpanzees??

Netsayahoo - bad chimp, Bernanke - bad chimp, Bert Chilton & Bill Gross - good chimps, George Soros -?? bad chimp?, Rothschilds - pack of bad chimps. See how easy this is, makes sense and Fun!! Yes?

Because those are exactly places that hamas puts themselves, and their weapon stash, among the civilians, for the israelis to hit, and then they cry foul to the world and liberals buy it stock and barrel.

I would point out that there are a number of IDF military bases IN Gaza itself already. These are among civilians for exactly the same reason.

Chris-749391

I would point out that there are a number of IDF military bases IN Gaza itself already

They left in 2005

Wake up call? Wake up call?!!

When missiles are fired into San Diego, let's see you print a headline reading "Wake up call for San Diego."

NBC - Go F yourself.

@Ixor Kleb,

That is a lie! The Israeli government is currently requesting about a billion dollars in US grants to relocate the bases out of Gaza. 2) Here is a link to a video of Palestinian women protesting at the Beit El Military Basse (in the West Bank) just yesterday: http://mondoweiss.net/2012/11/video-palestinian-women-occupy-israeli-military-base-in-west-bank-to-protest-gaza-attack.html Several references are made to similar demonstrations at IDF bses IN GAZA.

My guess is that you're a paid Israeli troll. E-mail me and I'll give your Mossad connections my home address. They are nothing but a bunch of cowards.

And please explain the cryptic use of Hebrew prayers by IDF pilots attacking the Liberty when notified by IDF Hq that 6th Fleet interceptors were on the way. Two of the PT boats collided out of fear in their blind panic. One had to be towed back because it was dmaged so badly. And why did the IDF repeat 12 times that the mission was to "sink that American boat without a trace"? Why was there obvious panic at IDF Hq when word was received that the Liberty was still afloat (though so badly damaged that it has to be sold for scrap despite being a brand new re-fit.) These and other questions????

Ixor's comments are a very serious reason why ALL aid to Israel needs to be stopped until it can learn to live with its neighbors. Otherwise the US is fighting a fire with gasoline.

Let US hope the situation Just SIMMERS DOWN.....................................

Ellen 4011154: Do you have son or daughter in the IDF? Would you care if the only life support for israel's Existence is America and Her Armies? Our Fine Young Sons and Daughters are protecting israel and here is SatanYoohoo trying to cause a major war..As this warmonger has said:"The only thing I am interested in is the Palestinians to be Gone...At Any Cost". That Means America and her fine Young Warriors covering israel's security and suffering caualties for You jews Or did you forget that; As a joint arab attack on israel means CERTAIN Destrucive DEFEAT for Israel.

A video of some old sow protesting bases in Judea is not proof that bases are in Gaza. Ditto for the derail into the "Liberty".

You are more than welcome to email your address so we can get to know you better and send you a cute little Channuka card. Thats all you are worth.

I'm with you Ixor - from memory, Sharon pulled out of Gaza in 2005, pretty much as an experiment to assess the peace with the Palestinians that was presumed would follow. Instead, mortar rounds and rockets followed the withdrawal into Israel, and the assault has continued with disturbing regularity.

And resurrecting the "Liberty" story is truly becoming tiresome. The Israelis cocked up big time, they apologised and they paid up. Let it be.

Best wishes to all our friends in Israel, hang in there. Sadly, your fish markets might be closed for a while because Hamas currently seems intent on wiping out the seafood off your coastline.

OK WhoreTime you go and join idf and fight for israel; because We Americans DO NOT Want our Fine Young Sons and Daughters to suffer casualties for you self centered jews. You Want a War? OK go fight it Moron. The Hope Here is No One shows up for the party...EVERY ONE Walks Away @$$H0LE....

PhantomBeast

Don't worry PhantomBeast. AIPAC is paying their trolls overtime money to flood the all the post with their own reality. In the hope that the can con the USA sheep in to doing their dirty work. They rather see US kids in body bags then their own when WW3 start. And it will start the way it is going.

Personally I hope that both the Jews and the Palestinian blow each other to hell. At least it will be quite for awhile in that region.

All they do is costing me money and grieve. So get it over and done and blow blow each other to hell as long as you do it there.

to Cynical175: Look, no matter what, It IS Better that this back and forth warring stops before things with these two factions get Way out of hand. Personally, PB IS VERY STRONGLY Anti-Islamist and ANTI SatanYooHoo and would like to see BOTH be Voted Away Like what We Americans did at election time with the two republicanCrimeCartelClowns, TweetleDum and TweetleDee. Prez O has shown He Will Stand Up to that zionist bully satanYooHoo and Not allow him to push us into a war. Whereas bush, During His Shamefully Notorious Shrubber Reign 2001-2008, was manipulated by paul wolfowitz into invading Iraq. So for right now, Prez O is coming through for US, Whereas Rommel and Lyin'Ryan would already have boots on Iran soil.

PhantomBeast

Amen to that

JMJost - you are right, war is no joke. But if you don't want to fall down crying, you take the pi$$, make fun of it, have a laugh, while running for the bomb shelter or, if you are lucky, aiming you own weapon.

Absolutely!!

I wouldn't even pirate it if made into a film.

Peace through streangth idiot!!

Oops,,,too late; another 4 years of Ozippy!

Peace comes from being peaceful. Otherwise peace only comes when the "strong" are dead. It is sad that people can actually believe that killing innocent people makes peace. That's why the US has lost every major military engagement since WWII --- Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and now Afghanistan. All were lost for the simple reason that there is never enough "strength" to create peace. Peace is always there. The strength comes in being able to recognize it. And the name-calling only shows that you have no argument to back up your wrong-headed rant.

And youg guy lost in a landslide --- what was the score? 332 to 206? Pretty dismal and it will be much worse in 2016 when Hillary runs. Too late is right! Too late for the idiots in the GOP.

Did you read that brief screenplay WhoreTime?, Can you read?? Has it ever dawned on you that MomNature is Angry AT ALL OF HUMANKIND and can snuff All of Humanity with H1N1+H5N1+ebola=Our End. Armies?? will fold up like falling dominos with NO defense...Grisly, Disgusting Death within 72hours, making Human warfare look very insignificent. We better STOP Messing Around.

Too late --- the Palestinians have already been "deported in mass (sic)". The Israelis did it starting in 1948 and hgave not stopped a day since. So that isn't much of a threat.

If I recall correctly Israel and Palestine were divided up fairly evenly, that is until Palestinians and their Arab neighbors invaded Israel in 1948 and lost, invaded again in 1967 and lost again. In the name of peace, Israel gave land back to the Palestinians and their Arab neighbors after finishing wars which they did not start, but that isn't enough for the Palestinians and Arabs. Most of which are just biding their time until a new war begins in which they hope to reverse the results of the earlier wars. Israel has been willing to have a lasting and stable peace, the Palestinians and surrounding Arab states are the ones who don't want peace unless on its the grave of the nation known as Israel. I don't see anything wrong with Israel defending itself from those that pledge not to rest until its destroyed. In fact I'd say Israel has shown a great deal of restraint that other nations would not have shown.

Too late --- the Palestinians have already been "deported in mass (sic)". The Israelis did it starting in 1948 and hgave not stopped a day since. So that isn't much of a threat.

Oh really? They (Israel) sure did a piss poor job of it. They must have overlooked 1.5 million. Where are all the palestinian arabs being rounded up and deported to?

When they devided up Palestine between the Jews and the Palestinians didn't they say in that UN declaration that the Palestinians who lived there had the right to return.?

Something that the Jews have them categorically denied that.

Also up till now any and every UN declaration made in regards to Israel have been vetoed by the US and ignored by Israel

Israel will recognize that right, as soon as hamas rewrite their charter eliminating israel, and as soon as Iran stop using their proxy hamas as a political pawn. The rest of palestinians will see peace - then.

ZenPaladin

The Arab "Palestinians" have a country where they are the Majority (no Jews) Arabs. The rest are a different kind of Arab: Hashemite Arabs. This country was carved out of the Jewish Mandate to create a Palestinian homeland for Palestinian Arabs and Hashemites that thought they were getting a bad deal with Saudi Arabia.

Farideh, it is not enough that the Palestinians re-write their charter to annihilate Israel and exterminate the Jews. They have to demonstrate that they actually mean it. And, that's a very difficult case to make. After 65 years of perpetual terrorism and war, what length of time, of absolute and complete peace (assuming, arguendo, that the Palestinians are capable of it), would it take before any representations of desire for peace on the part of the Palestinians could be taken seriously? A year? A decade? A century? A millenium? Ever?

Exactly right - the Israeli military has wrecked havoc on Palestinians for half a century. You sound like Willard. Sitting on your fat pale ass in NJ talking peace or no-peace. Pfft!

Really? Do you know what the civilian death toll truly is on each side? Israel has better weapons, US supplied...My eyes were opened looking into the face of a precious little palastinian child, not more than 2-3 years old, who lost her life this week and she was not the only innocent to suffer...

No one is born a terrorist or a warmonger, evils are made in man and we are all responsable for them.

In the words of Kahlil Gibran...

Of the good in you I can speak, but not of the evil.
For what is evil but
good tortured by its own hunger and thirst?
Verily when good is hungry it seeks food even in dark caves,and when it thirsts it drinks even of dead waters

candlewycke.. why not immagine you live in new york and your forefathers lived there for many thousend years and one day some jews come and take your house, land , stores and farms away.and deported you and 800,000 of your people. what would you do?

That actually happened to the Jewish people when the Romans threw them out of Israel a couple of thousand years ago. When Israel declared itself a nation in 1948 it was much smaller than it is today. The day after Israel became a nation the surrounding Arab nations, including Palestine (which was bigger then that it is now), invaded Israel. Israel won that war and at least one that followed in 1967, they gained land after being invaded, in order to protect themselves with defend-able land they kept what they fought for after being preemptively attacked. Israel gave land back in the name of peace, but peace isn't good enough for the Arab world unless it's on the grave of the state of Israel. I say Israel should take back the lands it has previously given up, since they're damned whatever they do.

Ramesh, judging by your name you come from India, and therefore have not been treated all that well by the Pakistani Muslims.

If the US is so concerned about the welfare and safety of Israel why don't they give them a similar kind and even larger peace in the USA.

Comes to mind that there is enough desert in Texas and Arizona that could support 5 time the population of Israel. After all you stole that land from the natives there to begin with.

And instead of shipping all the billions of dollars you donate AND all the military hardware that basically give to them for free. You just truck it over to "greater Israel" in Texas.

Now greater Israel doesn't that reminds me of a similar phrase that a funny little guy with a moustache said about 70 years ago?

wow, you found a Nazi connotation in the scenario you made up and found a way to connect it to ME current events...

need some more straw for that argument ?

Well Cynical, if the Arab world is so damned concerned about the palestinians, why don't they give them some of that useless damned desert?

Having been to that armpit of the planet on 9 deployments, I can tell you without a doubt, if I was locked in a room with an arab, a jew, and a democrat, the only person in that room I would remotely trust would be the Jew. I have had the pleasure of seeing how peaceful muslims are, and how "grateful" they are when you give them the opportunity to stab you in the back.

And just FYI here chief, ALL of Palestine back in 320 BCE belonged to Israel. ALL OF IT,to include huge chunks of Syria, Jordan, Egypt, and parts of Persia.

how about the nutcaseyahu is trying despirately for relection?

ramashem,

Looks like the arab occupiers of Gaza are going to oblige him. Thanks for the great post.

yes the israeli PM wanted to get reelected so bad he told Hamas to fire an RPG at an IDF Jeep last Saturday.

genius

I'll toast to that.

PLEASE stop telling us ANCIENT history...it's 2012 and as long as the Palestinians refuse to accept the state of Israel AND shoot rockets at them, the Palestinians will be the losers...it's only the jihadists who are enjoying this and what it to continue

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Dear Sweet Insanity,

Your ignorance is exceeded only by your hypocrisy. Arab islam, including the palestinians, do not want peace or a two nation solution, they never have, and they never will. They want the annihilation of Israel and the extermination of the Jews. They do not accept the existence of Israel because of their rabid hatred of Jews. And, if they think they will prevail in that endeavor, they are insane.

Dear leftsux,

I will just tell you this, in my view, right wing, conservative, extremist, Americans, and right wing, conservative, extremist, Arab Muslims, are two sides of the same coin. They deserve each other.

Further, you cannot be a liberal, much less a progressive, and at the same time, support the most far, right wing, extremist, backward conservatism in the world - Arab Islamist terrorism - against Israel, one of the most left wing, liberal, socialist nations in the world. It is impossible. They are mutually exclusive.

You would be WRONG azzhole!!

great videos from a guy that started off with a different opinion until Palestinian Muslims reared up its ugly head to wake Pat up.

Palestinian rabid Jew hatred is the sole cause of their suffering. As I'm sure you know, neither the Palestinians, nor the rest of Arab Islam, wants peace or a two nation solution, they want the annihilation of Israel and the extermination of the Jews.

All they have to do is accept the state of Israel and they can sleep all they want...dig in their heels for the destruction of their neighbor and they will continue without peace OR sleep

When Palestanians civilians get caught up in the bloodshed, Israel doesn't celebrate their loss. It's an unfortunate casualty of war!

Palestanians rejoice at EVREY Israeli, man, woman and child they kill!

It is Israeli hatred and condescension of anyone but them mentality that makes them such aggressors. They sit on land that is NOT theirs, nor was it ever. Were it not for the western powers having to find a land for all the displaced European Jews, Israel would not exist today.

Funny how they are using the same tactics that were used against them in World War II. They isolate people, make them walk with basically a number, and treat the Palestinians like second class citizens.

If it wasn't for Israeli's lobby groups like AIPAC, and others that buy American politicians, we would not be beholden to them. More American than not, don't think we should tie our hands to Israel. It is a no-win situation for us.. it's only advantage is for Israelis.

Jewish-American voted for Obama 70/30%.

Obama is not Christian, nor Jewish; so what does that make "Hussein??"

planeguy2.. 83% of isreali/american voted for romney

The pro-Zion stance of the GOP is indeed a strange one when you consider the left-leaning views of most American Jews. The only way it makes sense is as an appeal to their Protestant Christian base, since rebuilding the Holy Temple is a prerequisite for the end-times as described by the Book of Revelation. A prophesy which may end-up being self-fulfilling, since rebuilding the Temple first requires the destruction of the Dome of the Rock.

American Jews voted for Obama (despite the hidiously grotesque lies and propagada spewed by the pimps and propagandists of the corporatocracy that Obama is anti-semitic, a closet Muslim, etc. etc.), because the vast majority of Jews in America, and world wide, are socialist, liberals, and Mitt Romney is a corporate fascist. Jews invented liberalism and socialism. Further, any Jew who thinks that Mitt Romney, or any other Christian conservative, cares about them, or Israel, is a fugitive from evolution.

Strange how Jewish Americans still vote for the weakest, most ant-Israel leaders come election time. I'm finding it harder and harder to support Israel, when their own kind keep voting in weak leaders......

Well said. happy 60.

planeguy - Jewish Americans voted for the President they considered would be best for AMERICA, which is what the American election is all about - and all it should be about.

I have no doubt Obama will turn his back on this ally, and do the same for Taiwan when China comes knocking at that door!

They voted for a bad, and weak leader and it will bite them in the azz. He couldn't even cover-up the Benghazi debacle with any credibility. Like every other Muslim, he'll sell the Jewish people down the river in a heartbeat! He's already got what he wanted, and he and Vladimir will conspire for the rest, I'm sure.

Kiss your homeland goodbye - idiots!!

Plane, Obama is not a Muslim. He is behaving in a statesmanlike manner during this crisis, by urging both sides to show restraint.

Plane is a brainwashed, Fox News junkie!

Maybe trustverify is an employee of the president of iran. Would that be such a stretch that paid Arab/Muslim propagandists flood internet comments with lies and propaganda

I feel so bad for the is for Israel ;i don't no why they are hated so much ;i hope they kill the Arab world ;just like they want to do the same to them ;so wrong .I have known many Jews and they are all lovely people ;i love them ;now the Arabs ]an other thing .The president of Isreal is a wonderful man ;i hope they will all be safe form this evil world we live in .May god bless all and keep your faith in the Lord .

I would not have expected anything else from a muslim to post here. Rants, blanket statements of vague nature, never specifics to their allegations, just what they heard at the local mosque and repeat it on the internet. Read some other news sources, beside the jihad tribune.

Why do you feel that it is necessary to call everyone who disagrees with you a Muslim? It is this type of rhetoric that leads to these types of attacks.

farideh. so you tag everyone with being muslim, if they post a different oppinion. what are you yourself. If I had to guess by your name. you would be iranian/armenian. If I had to guess by your comments, you would be a zionist. regardless. your view of every thing that you post is so bias that I can't even bother to read the @!$%# you write. but I have a few questions.

your opinion on the isreali oil pipeline going from both end of iraq to hifa,isreal. after the u.s was deceived by mossad with false info. about saddam nuclear bomb program.

golan height which belong to syria and u.s was mediating a negotiation to return it back to syrian.

please explain how is it that everywhere the is an unrest, the isreali's are the profitiers

farideh, you are illogical and not dwelving into any actual thought - you just spout blanket statements.. OH, you don't like Israel - you are either a terrorist or an anti-semite. So foolish and dumb.

Following your logic, you should probably stop getting your news from rabid radio hosts.

Oh and by the way, I'm actually Catholic :) Nice try buddy... wanna try again? LOL

Dan, the agent of the most evil nation on earth - Iran, is here to flood the comments with the lies and propaganda of his principal - Iran.

the "wake up call" is a reference to the fact southern israelis are disgruntled at Tel Avivian's apathy towards their situation.

residents of the south don't have a minute and a half, some don't even have 30 seconds.
and they got an average of 100 shellings per day this past week.

and yes, some of them are glad Tel Aviv's seeing some action.
they reason it might actually force the bigwigs to finally do something