It's a shame the US isn't as pro-war or maybe we could have finished what we started in the middle-east instead of cut and run. We let our allies in Israel down by not taking care of this problem a long time ago. I just hope that when they invade, we are there to provide support.

Yes, the ratio of dead Palestinians to dead Israelis shows genocide alright!

Or is it that Palestinian dead are less valuable the Israeli dead?

Sooner or later the tide turns, and incase no one has told you, the Muslims have you outmanned.

Israel can kill a million Muslims a day for over a year, and they will STILL outnumber you 10 to 1.

It is like a zombie movie. Sooner or later you either run out of bullets, or you get betrayed by one of your own. And then they are upon you, tearing you to shreds.

Your destruction is guaranteed.

Sooner or later, religion fails, but math is an absolute.

William,

By your analogy American soldiers are worth less than Japanese soldiers or German ones because less Americans we killed in WW II than of the other armies.

If you think that Israel has performed 1500 flights and only 100 Palestinians have been killed then you can see where they are showing great restraint, considering that the Hamas militants hide in apartment buildings and the most crowded sections of Gaza.

William - The ratio does not show genocide because that is only the Palestinian INTENT, not reality. If the roles were reversed and the Palestinians had overwhelming military capability over the Israelis, then it would be reality.

Many Palestinians have said as much - Their goal is the total erradication of Israel. The Israeli's goal is NOT the total erradication of the Palestinian people, or that would have already occurred.

It is not Israel's fault that the Palestinians keep picking fights with a nation so much more capable. That asymmetrical situation is the only reason the ratio is heavily slanted against Palestine.

jerry l-1335133

That is why you will lose.

When one prepares for war he must share the same blood lust as those he fights.

Israel will win this round and will declare itself victor and overlord of the new peace. And the Muslims shall raise another generation of children whose sole mission in life is the wholesale slaughter of Israeli's.

Either change the rules of the game or die. This battle is being fought in the womb.

Each conflict, the missles fly further, and are more accurate. The Palestinians have a patience today that Isreali's had in previous generations.

Chemical weapons, biological weapons, radiological weapons, all of these have yet to be used, but rest assured they will be. Israel and the world know it is just a question of time.

A billion Muslims shall not be held at bay forever.

so...just to play devil's advocate to your point.... dead children as collateral damage is an acceptable loss? the pictures you can see on msnbc of dead children is sobering to the idea of escalating the events in the region.

Israeli forces have a much greater lethality and a much great ability to defend themselves. i think that's why your seeing such a tilt in the death tolls. boasting a large number of flights and a comparably low number of deaths isn't necessarily telling the whole story...

having said all that.. i do agree that the literally relentless attacks on southern Israel has a tremendous psychological toll as well as a cost of human life over time that may tilt the scale of life lost to a more equal standing... so i'm not necessarily advocating for Hamas....

to be honest i think this situation is way above my grasp.. i've never been subjected to rocket attacks or tactical air raids.... it's an F'd up situation to be in and equally F'd up to try and navigate.

It is not Israel's fault that the Palestinians keep picking fights with a nation so much more capable

But impotent without American support, arms and money. Israel thinks it can pick fights, take land, natural resources and kill children without any reaction. The world has condemn Israel for its actions and its only friend is America. Hopefully America will wake up one day and tell Israel enough is enough stop your aggression and acquisition program or you are on your own.

First I am an American so I will not lose.

When you say the Israeli's had patience you are completely wrong, they know that they can never lose because they have no place to go. It is either win or be killed which is why they have defeated their neighbors 4 times in war.

You are also under the impression that Muslims are all together. First the largest Muslim country is Indonesia and I do not think Israel is a major issue for them. Second they have enough problems between the Sunnis and the Shiites who are constantly killing each other.

There are bigger divisions between Saudi Arabia and Iran then Saudi and Israel and that is where the real war is going to happen because as they say follow the money and that is where the money is in oil which Israel does not have.

Old Timer--

if that's what you think, you are not only old but your are ignorant. What has happened every time the Israelis have given "land for peace"? Shells and rockets come out of the land, that's what (see Golan,see Gaza). The palestinians see every conciliation as weakness...it is cultural.

And do you think if Israel retreated to pre-67 borders the terrorism would stop? Not when you are surrounded by enemies who don't want peace, who just want dead Jews...

Old Timer,

Sorry the Palestinians turned down the 47 offer and instead chose war which they lost. You have to live or die with the consequences of your decision and electing Hamas is another choice they made.

Politics,

Is it the fault of Israel that the bombers of Hamas hide behind their children. If they do not care if their children live or die why should ,I or why should an Israeli when the stated and written goal of Hamas is to kill their children.

The attitude of the people on this post is brainless.. OH the hordes of Islamists will cleanse the world or destroy it completely because they will never tolerate the Zionist filth-Yada Yada Yada.. I hate to break it to you geniuses but it seems all Muslims do not think like you and are most likely sick of you poking the Tiger.. Islam is a CULT of hate and not a religion because they teach children to hate just like the Panthers or KKK.. Remember they sided with the Nazis and when the Allies defeated them they took the land as spoils of war just like that child raping pig Mohamed did and they are sour losers.. When they started the 6 day war and lost they are lucky that Israel did not stomp the aggressors home countries and take all that land as well.. They have no idea what genocide is so I wish they would stop crying about it since if they had the chance they would kill every last Christian and call it cleansing.. Israel has shown restraint because if they wanted to they could kill tens of thousands a day and that would be genocide.. Why we are giving billions in aid to these Islam cult countries is the big question.. Our Obamanation and chief is setting us up for something..

What happened to the "Gates of Hell Opening Up"? Maybe hamas just sisn't know which was the gates opened. Either was they swung open and hamas got just exactly what they asked for. So did the palistinian people.

I just can't bring myself to feel bad for those people like the picture of the lady above crying is supposed to invoke. I assume she use to love when the palistinians were lobbing bombs in to Israel. Now she don't look so happy that they're lobbing them back now.

A billion Muslims, William.

Good point.

If I was president, it'd take me about 20 to 25 minutes to take care of THAT issue.

Right now it looks like the Israelis are committing a genocide.

It's a shame the US isn't as pro-war

Oh.My.God.

Maxeemas,

Israel is capable of destroying Gaza yet they haven't but if it was the other way around would Israel have been destroyed. If your answer is yes then you understand the difference between the cultures and the people.

I think we should pay attention to comments like William's and those from his jihad buddies. It just confirms what most of us sense, which is that a large majority of Arabs and Muslims want the Jewish people finished off so Smeagol (Muhammad) can have his precious ring (Jerusalem).

The following counties do not recognize Israel's right to exist:

Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Brunei, Chad, Comoros, Cuba, Djibouti, Guinea, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Morocco, Niger, North Korea, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, United Arab Emirates and Yemen, along with and a large percentage of citizens in Egypt, Jordan and Turkey.

The large majority of them being Islamic countries ruled by sharia law and crazy lunatics, and also the birthplace of many terrorists.

I just watched on tv, a group in Gaza on motorcycles dragging an Israeli body behind their motorcycle. What kind of animals do this??

They drug out 6 people in a van and accused them of spying, killed the 6 people and drug one of the bodies though the streets of Gaza. Animals, that's what they are, ANIMALS.

In the end, it will be Israel who will decide the outcome.

HAMAS cannot keep their Terrorists contained.

If Israel gave them Israel, they would still be fighting amongst themselves. The Extremists who have no life value for their own families, citizens will kill each other. The KORAN is their Guide.

Israel is a scapegoat for their own misery of poverty, no future, no education, living in squalor. Terrorists are given importance by what they do-

Again, it is all the Dictators from the ME/N. Africa that only are in interested retaining "Oil Flow" and sales to other countries. Billions upon Billions, Trillions in money that will never be shared with their own people.

Nothing will change, ever. America will have to depend on Canada, Mexico, and other countries for this commodity--We cannot deal with Sub Humans who's passion is to see people die, tortured, beheaded or executed. That is their prey..That is Civility?--Sec. of State Clinton will make no prgoress--it is for the US Government to seem that "they care". Beyond her control.

Where is your concern for israeli women and children that face the threat of missles all the time from the cowards hamas?? Israelis have no dignity or valvue of other peoples lives?? Seriously? And the terrorist hamas do? How about letting Israeli children live to make a better life?

Israel should end this problem now, if a peace is reached everyone knows it will not be long before the missles start flying into Israel again. Hamas and the palestinians have proved over and over they can not be trusted to keep a peace with Israel. There is no use to try anymore.

No other country in the world, not one, would put up with what Israel has from gaza.

Your comments are idiotic.

They should drive everyone of them into egypt and let the muslim brotherhood deal with them.

God promised the entire region to the Jewish people. God kept his promise and the Jews entered into the Holy Land and dwelt there for centuries. The northern Kingdom of Israel, as well as Philistine city-states, fell in 722 BCE, though the southern Kingdom of Judah and several Phoenician city-states continued their existence as the region came under Assyrian rule. With the emergence of Babylonians, Judah was eventually conquered as well. God returned the land to the Jewish people when the United Nations divided land post WWII giving the MOST to the Arabs but cutting out a small area for the Jews. The Palestines were given a smaller area of the area of land known as the Gaza Strip.

Almost immediately after the UN granted the Jewish people the area known as the State of Israel", a state independent upon the termination of the British Mandate for Palestine, 15 May 1948.^[9][10][11] Neighboring Arab states invaded the next day in support of the Palestinian Arabs. Israel has since fought several wars with neighboring Arab states.

The Arabs have always been the aggressors and will continue to be until the END of time . . . and God returns in the flesh . . . then there will we a peace.

If the President of the United States turns his back on Israel it will be the END of the United States as God will not favor this country any longer. So who do we TRUST is it Obama or God?

When people sit in the comfort of their homes free from the noise of rockets exploding day in and day out have mighty big ba**s calling the Israelis the bad guys. When you don't have a dog in the fight and complain about people fighting back, you have no right at all to complain, especially when the Israelis are using as much restraint as they are. It is a shame when innocent civilians are killed but if they play the Hamas party line then, oh well.

The 1947 partition was a mistake. The two religious groups SHOULD have agreed to co-exist and form a secular state TOLERANT of BOTH religions and of the religious minorities in what was the Palestinian Mandate. That is still possible, but the current Israeli government has to give full citizenship to the Palestinians (well, the grandchildren of the refugees from 1947) and the Palestinians have to give up both their dream of the destruction of an independent Jewish state and their dream of an independent Palestinian state. The only casualties would be the rabid extremists on both sides. The two-state solution will never work.

Israel's south-west, which has lived through almost a decade of rocket fire from Gaza.

What other country has shown this much restraint and patience in the face of their enemies??? Only Israel.

Who has sent food and provides free medical care for a long time now to those who would see her destroyed??? Only Israel.

Even in the midst of this current conflict, Israel continues to send aid to an area that wants her destroyed.

http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=6455

Gotnorice

It's a shame the US isn't as pro-war or maybe we could have finished what we started in the middle-east instead of cut and run. We let our allies in Israel down by not taking care of this problem a long time ago. I just hope that when they invade, we are there to provide support.

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I wouldnt count on it. Barrack is more interested going on TV shows than meeting with them in person to talk about their issues and how we can help.

I just watched on tv, a group in Gaza on motorcycles dragging an Israeli body behind their motorcycle. What kind of animals do this??

Sharriannie, the son of a prominent Hamas leader couldn't take the torture inflicted on Palestinian people by Hamas either and escaped Gaza, having to betray his own father, country and people. Hamas is very paranoid as most lunatics are and thinks everyone is collaborating with Israel.

Mus'ab Hassan Yousuf, Son of Hamas speaks out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHq25tnZoFs&feature=related

ORB, I believe you have forgotten history, if it were one state, the Arabs would be attempting to/or have already taken over that state. THEY ARE RACIST! The Arab Islamic jihad cultist are just like Rev Wright, Hitler, etc. They are racist pieces of crap that need flushed from the bowels of civilized humanity.

Chefaz and latekate, you are dead on the money.

jcsusmc69 - I'm sure you realize that 9 of your 13 examples occurred with a Republican president. I suppose you believe all of them were Obama's fault as well. Reagan sold arms to Iran and Iraq, but of course Obama forced him to do that. You have some reasonable points, but you minimize their impact with your many ridiculous comments.

if it was the other way around, the Jews always lived with the Muslims in peace for decades, it was until the Jews betrayed the Palestinians. I heard some people in MSNBC SAYING : Israel bought land. I say yes they bought land but they also stole more Land than you think! and killed many innocent people for it.

As Muslim, I would not kill someone for land, Muslims since day one invaded many country only for one purpose, to spread God s word / message send his Last prophet Mohammad (pbuoh)

Israel have no mercy on Palestinians and I am not surprised every one hate them. I still pray and I still have hope for peace between them and the Muslims.

According to other prophets, they said that the Land of Jerusalemm will never be stable until Jesus (pbuoh) return to earth which is signs of judgement day.

Sounds like alot of you anti-Israel folks agree with Hitlers message. The Jews are the cause of all the worlds problems. I side with Israel on this one, damn Muslims always stiring up problems. Arent the muslims the ones that keep saying Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth?

WilliamD: "Sooner or later, religion fails, but math is an absolute."

Then pray tell me...mathematically, of course...the formula for how Israel/Jews have survived as a race of people, and now a nation, for thousands of years being surrounded by those that outnumber and hate them? Ahhhhh...sounds to me more like HISTORY is the absolute. By the way, there is a fair amount of history in religion, too. Too bad you never read this Book. It just might enlighten you.

Maxeemas

if it was the other way around, the Jews always lived with the Muslims in peace for decades, it was until the Jews betrayed the Palestinians. I heard some people in MSNBC SAYING : Israel bought land. I say yes they bought land but they also stole more Land than you think! and killed many innocent people for it.

That is the consequences to lose a war. Mexicans lost their territory but they never kill Americans firing rockets from Mexico. Many countries lost their territories after a war , get over Palestinians must accept their reality. By the way, what are you and your Muslim brothers to help Palestinians , beside to help them to smuggling weapons to kill Jews,how many times you have contribute to provide food, clothes, school supplies to your brothers. Palestinian are poor economically but is even worst they are poor in spirit , they are full hate.

You can not be patient with people who are firing missiles at you. Hamas will get them all killed if they don’t stop. And it will be there own fault. Israel can not be expected to sit idol and do nothing. They’re defending there “own” children and apparently value them differently than muslims. That Israeli children are not dying “as much” does not mean hamas is not trying. They are trying. They’re just incompetent and poorly supplied. Which makes them stupid for attacking Israel as well.

But Iran is most likely supplying and encouraging them. When this conflict truly goes global, it will be the muslims who begged for it. A billion muslims william? Its going to be nasty for everyone when they force the rest of the world to unite to put them down.

William your vision of children being raise to perpetuate the sins and ignorance of there parents is the worst thought of all. It means that your sympathy for them now is hollow because you would have them
brainwashed into marching to there death for your own selfish hatred and agenda for no good reason. Before they even have a chance to think for themselves.

The blood of those Palestinian civilians is squarely on hamas's hands. The cowards operate from within civilian areas for a reason.

Lol at all the Americans that are "diehard" supporters Israel. How many of you would sit by and let our Congress or the U.N. declare that the area/state you live in (Florida for example) was no longer "yours" even though your family had lived there for generations. Imagine if they gave Florida to Cuba and said that you must now follow what the Cuban leader tells you to do, you must now follow all their rules/regulations, and you lost all your former rights. How would you feel as a former citizen or person that lived in the area called Florida? Would you be happy about it? HELL NO YOU MORONS WOULD NOT. You would start a war the next day, don't f***ing lie to me hypocrites.

Simple math. 1 nuke can kill 100,000-200,000 depending on how packed the people are. The 300 nukes that Israel has will only kill about 60 million people. One a day for almost a year. That type of kill rate is what is needed to outpace how quickly 1 billion people can reproduce. There is a logistical problem of finding them all too and they are not all nice and clumped together either in most cases. If 1 billion people really wanted to reproduce you could not kill them quickly enough in most cases. You would need to kill the first 1 billion in under 15 years or so, by then the first batch of 1 billion new jihadists are on their way. I wonder why most of the population of Israel does not want a land war? Maybe they are smarter then that?

Only a moron would think that people would give up their fight or forget over time, HISTORY says otherwise...maybe they never read that book at all and are just talking chit as always. How many years has that one piece of land seen war versus peace? Hate to break it to you, but WHOEVER attempts to control that piece of land will always be under attack NO MATTER WHAT. Don't sit there and b***h and moan about missiles overhead when you INSIST on living there, YOU HAVE OTHER OPTIONS.

Hate to break it to you, but most of the groups that have survived have been outnumbered compared to their total "potential" enemies. Maybe if you understood "math" you would see that, but that would be logical. Most of the world hates America because of Israel and we are still around. Were the Christians outnumbered by the Romans? Who converted the Romans btw and who was their b***hes?

Israel is blood thirsty. So go for it Israel and kill more and more women and children to quencher your thirst.

Oh, the big outrage at Israel when they respond to being attacked with much more precision. Just in case, remember the '72 massacre in Munich, and then Mossad's response, tracking down every last one involved in the terrorist attack. I wish our counter-terrorist forces were that good... seems like those Muslim fanatics never learn and are bound to repeat history.

On Sept 11, 1683 (ring a bell?), the Muslims surrounded Vienna in an attempt to take over Austria and Germany, only to get kicked back to the curb of Europe, where they belong. That after a failed attempt in 1529. History repeats itself for those who don't learn from the past.

Hamas are terrorists supported by Iran. Terrorists are just cowards who use woman and children (whom they claim to protect) as human shields. Israel should send a message by leveling Gaza. This world as a whole needs to start eliminating radical Muslims together as one. If you side with the terrorists then you will face eternity in hell. Any religion that promotes hate and murder is not a religion. It is a cult. And needs to be wiped from this earth.

This country needs to stop funding aid $$$$$ to Egypt and Afghan and every other arab country, they made it clear that they all support Hamas. Obama also should of minded his own business and not of helped push for Mubarak to step down. This side of the region was peaceful until Obama stuck his big nose into Libya and Egypt, its almost as bad as Bush with Iraq and now the door is open for Iran and more terrorist groups. When is this country ever going to learn to butt out of other countries businesses. I support Israel 100%. If anyone begs to differ then you try living over in Israel and see how it feels to worry about rockets hitting you. There will be no peace in that region until these muslims change their attitudes. Arabs call this a religion of peace, ha! what a load of crock.!!!!!!!!

RACIST ALERT, dreamjoe is but yet another true blue racist!

Thanks for letting us know your true hate of certain colors!

For those of you supporting Hamas, THIS POS is what you are supporting, wake to f... up people! put down the Cheetos and think.

Kruschev may have been right, never will a shot be fired if we don't wake up!

In the end, it will be Israel who will decide the outcome.

HAMAS cannot keep their Terrorists contained.

If Israel gave them Israel, they would still be fighting amongst themselves. The Extremists who have no life value for their own families, citizens will kill each other. The KORAN is their Guide.

Israel is a scapegoat for their own misery of poverty, no future, no education, living in squalor. Terrorists are given importance by what they do-

Again, it is all the Dictators from the ME/N. Africa that only are in interested retaining "Oil Flow" and sales to other countries. Billions upon Billions, Trillions in money that will never be shared with their own people.

Nothing will change, ever. America will have to depend on Canada, Mexico, and other countries for this commodity--We cannot deal with Sub Humans who's passion is to see people die, tortured, beheaded or executed. That is their prey..That is Civility?--Sec. of State Clinton will make no prgoress--it is for the US Government to seem that "they care". Beyond her control.

This is a no win for Hillary to Go to these Countries--Peace???===Every President has an Ego as Big as a Continent. Peace is a symbolic gesture.

Tonsil boy

The Jews are the world's original racists and they believe their racism is mandated by God.

Anwar Shaikh (an ex-Muslim who was born in Pakistan and died in Wales in 2006) noted in his book Islam, The Arab National Religion, the Arabs consider themselves to be superior to other Muslims because they "received" the message from Allah. It was given to them and was in their language. Non-Arab Muslims are supposed to read the Qur'an, or listen to its recital, only in Arabic. Any other version, in any other language, is not the same thing.

Other than the fact that Muslims haven't killed every
non-Muslim under their domain, there is very little else that they can point to
as proof that theirs is a peaceful, tolerant religion. Where Islam is dominant
(as in the Middle East and Pakistan) religious minorities suffer brutal
persecution with little resistance. Where Islam is in the minority (as in
Thailand, the Philippines and Europe) there is the threat of violence if Muslim
demands are not met. Either situation seems to provide a justification for
religious terrorism, which is persistent and endemic to Islamic
fundamentalism.

The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses
of Islam's most sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of
religious tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier
"Meccan" verses which are obviously abrogated by later ones. This is why Muslim
apologists speak of the "risks" of trying to interpret the Quran without their
"assistance" - even while claiming that it is a perfect book.

Far from being mere history or theological construct, the
violent verses of the Quran have played a key role in very real massacre and
genocide. This includes the brutal slaughter of tens of millions of Hindus for
five centuries beginning around 1000 AD with Mahmud of Ghazni's bloody
conquest. Both he and the later Tamerlane (Islam's Genghis Khan) slaughtered an
untold number merely for defending their temples from destruction. Buddhism was
very nearly wiped off the Indian subcontinent. Judaism and Christianity met the
same fate (albeit more slowly) in areas conquered by Muslim armies, including
the Middle East, North Africa and parts of Europe, including today's Turkey.
Zoroastrianism, the ancient religion of a proud Persian people is despised by
Muslims and barely survives in modern Iran.

So ingrained is violence in the religion that Islam has never
really stopped being at war, either with other religions or with itself.

Muhammad was a military leader, laying siege to towns, massacring
the men, raping
their women, enslaving their children, and taking the property of others as his
own. On several occasions he rejected offers of surrender from the besieged
inhabitants and even butchered captives.
He actually inspired his followers to battle when they did not feel it was right
to fight, promising them slaves and booty if they did and threatening them with
Hell if they did not. Muhammad allowed his men to rape traumatized women
captured in battle, usually on the very day their husbands and family members
were slaughtered.

It is important to emphasize that, for the most part, Muslim
armies waged aggressive campaigns, and the religion's most dramatic
military conquests were made by the actual companions of Muhammad in the decades
following his death. The early Islamic principle of warfare was that the
civilian population of a town was to be destroyed (ie. men executed, women and
children taken as slaves) if they defended themselves. Although modern
apologists often claim that Muslims are only supposed to attack in self-defense,
this is an oxymoron that is flatly
contradicted by the accounts of Islamic historians and others that go back
to the time of Muhammad.

Consider the example of the Qurayza Jews, who were completely
obliterated only five years after Muhammad arrived in Medina. Their leader
opted to stay neutral when their town was besieged by a Meccan army that was
sent to take revenge for Muhammad's deadly caravan raids. The tribe killed no
one from either side and even surrendered peacefully to Muhammad after the
Meccans had been turned back. Yet the prophet of Islam had every male member of
the Qurayza beheaded, and every woman and child enslaved, even raping one of the
captives himself (what Muslim apologists might refer to as "same day
marriage").

One of Islam's most revered modern scholars, Sheikh Yusuf
al-Qaradawi, openly sanctions offensive Jihad: "In the Jihad which you are
seeking, you look for the enemy and invade him. This type of Jihad takes place only when the Islamic state is invading other
[countries] in order to spread the word of
Islam and to remove obstacles standing in its way." Elsewhere, he
notes: "Islam has the right to take the initiative…this is God’s religion and
it is for the whole world. It has the right to destroy all obstacles in the form
of institutions and traditions … it attacks institutions and traditions to
release human beings from their poisonous influences, which distort human nature
and curtail human freedom. Those who say that Islamic Jihad was merely for the
defense of the 'homeland of Islam' diminish the greatness of the Islamic way of
life."

The widely respected Dictionary of Islam
defines Jihad as "A religious war with those who are unbelievers in the
mission of Muhammad. It is an incumbent religious duty, established in the
Qur'an and in the Traditions as a divine institution, and enjoined specially for
the purpose of advancing Islam and of repelling evil from Muslims…[Quoting from
the Hanafi school, Hedaya, 2:140, 141.], "The destruction of the sword is
incurred by infidels, although they be not the first aggressors, as appears
from various passages in the traditions which are generally received to this
effect."

Muhammad's failure to leave a clear line of succession
resulted in perpetual internal war following his death. Those who knew him best
first fought to keep remote tribes from leaving Islam and reverting to their
preferred religion (the Ridda or 'Apostasy wars'). Then, within the closer
community, early Meccan converts battled later ones. Hostility developed
between those immigrants who had traveled with Muhammad to Mecca and the Ansar
at Medina who had helped them settle in. Finally there was a violent struggle
within Muhammad's own family between his favorite wife and favorite daughter - a
jagged schism that has left Shias and Sunnis at each others' throats to this
day.

The strangest and most untrue thing that can be said about
Islam is that it is a Religion of Peace. If every standard by which the West is
judged and condemned (slavery, imperialism, intolerance, misogyny, sexual
repression, warfare...) were applied equally to Islam, the verdict would be
devastating. Islam never gives up what it conquers, be it religion, culture,
language or life. Neither does it make apologies or any real effort at moral
progress. It is the least open to dialogue and the most self-absorbed. It is
convinced of its own perfection, yet brutally shuns self-examination and
represses criticism.

This is what makes the Quran's verses of violence so
dangerous. They are given the weight of divine command. While Muslim
terrorists take them as literally as anything else in their holy book, and
understand that Islam is incomplete without Jihad, moderates offer little to
contradict them - outside of opinion. Indeed, what do they have? Speaking of
peace and love may win over the ignorant, but when every twelfth verse of
Islam's holiest book either speaks to Allah's hatred for non-Muslims or calls
for their death, forced conversion, or subjugation, it's little wonder that
sympathy for terrorism runs as deeply as it does in the
broader community - even if most Muslims personally prefer not to interpret
their religion in this way.

Although scholars like Ibn Khaldun, one of Islam's most
respected philosophers, understood that "the holy war is a religious duty,
because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and (the obligation to)
convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force", many other
Muslims are either unaware or willfully ignorant of the Quran's near absence of
verses that preach universal non-violence. Their understanding of Islam comes
from what they are taught by others. In the West, it is typical for believers
to think that their religion must be like Christianity - preaching the New
Testament virtues of peace, love, and tolerance - because Muslims are taught
that Islam is supposed to be superior in
every way. They are somewhat surprised and embarrassed to learn that the
evidence of the Quran and the bloody history of Islam are very much in
contradiction to this.

Others simply accept the violence. In 1991, a Palestinian
couple in America was convicted of stabbing their daughter to death for being
too Westernized. A family friend came to their defense, excoriating the jury
for not understanding the "culture", claiming that the father was merely
following "the religion" and saying that the couple had to "discipline their
daughter or lose respect." (source).
In 2011, unrepentant Palestinian terrorists, responsible for the brutal murders
of civilians, women and children explicitly in
the name of Allah were treated to a luxurious "holy pilgrimage" to Mecca by the
Saudi king - without a single Muslim voice raised in protest.

For their part, Western liberals would do well not to
sacrifice critical thinking to the god of political correctness, or look for
reasons to bring other religion down to the level of Islam merely to avoid the
existential truth that this it is both different and dangerous.

There are just too many Muslims who take the Quran
literally... and too many others who couldn't care less about the violence done
in the name of Islam.

Let's review.

In brief - Islam is a disorganized threat to themselves and anyone who screws with them.

Israel, and the organized criminal network that supports them and coerces the U.S. and other Western nations to fight their wars for them, screws with everyone and threatens the peace and security of the world.

I guess we can just call it a toss up then.

Israel Iran , and the organized criminal network that supports them and coerces the U.S. and other Western nations , use Palestinians to fight their wars for them, screws with everyone and threatens the peace and security of the world

Tonsil Boy:

What gobblety gook does your comment make. Tonsillectomy?

Nonsense---Tonsil doesn't have a grasp on Foreign Affairs, and the fact the Terrorists are coming after us if this War between HAMAS, other Terrorist Groups (supported by Iran) doesn't end.

Naive, that Iran will be on our doorstep very soon with Nuclear Capability. So if they wipe out Israel, the US is next---who do you want to do the job of eradicating Iran's Power over the entire Middle East, Terrorists, and N. Africa. Joining the Iranian Revolutionary Guard would be a good start.

Think again if that isn't too hard. Geezzzzzzzzzz, start over again, and give a good explanation for what is going on far away.

Tracy-2712120

You and your murderous zionist friends are the one's calling for enormous racist violence.

I didn't call for razing Israel and making it "a football field". that would be right wing zionist racists like yourself.

Dreamhilljoe, I never called for such a thing, you are mistaken greatly by your lack of reading comprehension. You and your cut and paste statements are purely racist and you are a bigot and hypocrite. Anyone not believing exactly as you should be destroyed, particularly if they are of the jewish faith. You claim to be a loving atheist, but wish the destruction of anyone of any faith, except muslims, racist, hypocritical, and proof of bigotry. You sir are just pathetic.

Germany, and the Holocaust is a little more than a footnote....................

Really? So Christianity ceased to exist at some point in the past?

You might want to think before you type next time.

Go back to watching cartoons you jack wagon

Mr. NoOhBama... why do we always have to drag the Holocost back up? Can we not let those poor souls rest in peace and learn from the past and move on? Germany and the Holocost will be a footnote in history.

Mr. Hypo... Christianity did not exist before Jesus. Religion has always been around to control the idiot masses, and still is today in it's various forms. Personally my religion is a nice Single Malt!

Mr. Burns... cartoons are on now??? What channel??

Sponge, Bob,

The holocaust was more about race than religion.....

And you read which fiction book? The Jews in Germany owned all the businesses and had all the money. Hitler wanted the Jews out so his people would stop starving. In other words He was on the poor side with all his people. he wanted all the money from the rich. Ring any bells to what Obutthead and the Libs want to do ? no work,get paid by the Gov to sit home and tax the crap out of the rich. So where is it Religion started it all? Or Race?

People hate Jews for the same reason some white people hate blacks, or Germans hate the French. You have to have someone to hate or else it's really difficult to feel superior to others.

Because they are the children of GOD.

better yet...y is it gotta always be about the jews...oh no a jew died here oh no a jew died there how about all the people dying in africa every day what about them no one goes out and supports them or show them on the news.... its always about the jews so people can feel sorry for them but yet no one wants to feel sorry for the african people or anyone else who is not a jew.

Corky -To clarify, I don't thing "the world" hates Jews. I am no history buff, but from my understanding, after WWII, land was taken from the formerly know "Palestine" and given to the current known state of Israel. Since Israeli's practice Judaism, (which has a close relationship with Christianity), this war is more or less a religious and geograpical war. The local muslim community, is not keen on judaism in their territory, let alone taking over some of their land.

LLM, the formalization of Israel was merely the acknowledging of fact. Jews have had a claim on that area for longer than any currently existing civilization, bar none. (There were others there before them, but none of those civilizations have existed in over a millennium.)

Corky,

Being Jewish this is a question I ask often and truthfully the best answer I can come up with is that Jews tend to live together, and we are very reluctant to let outsiders in, which gives a perception that we think we are better but that is not the case.

We are only 15 million people in a world of 7 billion and in order to survive have to keep our culture and religion, so we try to stick together so our traditions live on.

LLM,

The land was taken by the British after WW I when the Ottoman Empire sided with Germany. At that point they imposed borders creating the countries of Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq and almost all of the Middle East countries.

Israel and Palestine were both offered countries in 47 which the Palestinians refused and Israel accepted. The UN by a vote in 48 created the nation of Israel so World War II really had nothing to do with it except the Jews who left Europe could not return to their homes, so Israel is one of the places they chose to move to along with the US, South American, South Africa, etc.

@ Andre-H we are all children of God, some just haven't realized it yet.

Wali, tremendous amounts have been raised to help the starving Africans,most notably in Haiti after the Earthquake, and with Jewish people contributing a share beyond their numbers. And as for how the Zionists acquired their Palestinian property...they BOUGHT it, starting in the late 19th Century, then acquired additional holdings when the Arabs used it as a base for attacking Israel three times.

Wali,

Did you know that Israel is taking 15,000 Sudanese a year into their country?

they stole my land and they are killing my people.

Corky-3849596 - Why does the world hate Jews?

The REAL Answer: Propaganda. Nations need an excuse or a Scapegoat.

Europe:

This Blame the Jews started in France to blame someone for their Misery about 1864 as, the book taught in schools as actual History, The Protocols.

At England, this was also taught as being Educated or Cultured (French Culture).

Later on in Germany in 1868 as the book taught in schools as actual History, The Protocols.

Russia:

Then Russia in 1872 as the book taught in schools as actual History, The Protocols.

America (US):

Eventually the US during the 1900s with Henry Ford having 500,000 copies of "The Protocols of the Wiser Elders of Zion" that were distributed throughout the US in the 1920s as the book taught in schools as actual History.

Europe:

In 1933 "The Protocols of the Wiser Elders of Zion" became Mandatory School Curriculum taught in schools as actual History as Ordered by Chancellor Hitler at Germany.

"Middle East":

In 1933 Fundamentalist Islamic Amin Al Husseini the Representative of the Islamic World signed the 1933 Forever Alliance with Chancellor Hitler with the Mutual Goals of Extermination of the Jews, and getting the British (Colonies) out of the Islamic World.

After the WWII Defeat of Germany, Fundamentalist Islamic Amin Al Husseini continued his Fundamentalist Islamic Belief of the 109 Suras of the 114 Suras of the Holy Koran's (Quran) Calls to All Islamic Believers to War Against the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers.

Fundamentalist Islamic Amin Al Husseini founds the Fundamentalist Islamic Arab League of Nations, Charter the Extermination of the Jews. Fundamentalist Islamic Amin Al Husseini demands they do his Pan Arabic Plan, the Forced Removal of the Original Inhabitants of Palestine the Coptic Christians, Jews, and replace them with Arabs to stop the Jews from Worldwide from inhabiting the Middle East. Most Arabs of Egypt and Jordan do not want to leave their own Nations, so the "Undesirables" (mostly Prisoners) are escorted by armed force to Palestine, with the Coptic Christians (70% of the Population) and Jews are removed by force from Palestine by the Arabs; the British turn a blind eye to this as well as by force prevent any Jews from getting to the Middle East (starting even before WWII while Fundamentalist Islamic Amin Al Husseini's Elite Muslim SS Brigades were rounding up the Jews at Germany to be sent to the "Work Camps" and the British preventing the Jews from going to British Middle East Colonies as British Policy since 1930s.).

Other Nations:

After the WWII Defeat of Germany most of Fundamentalist Islamic Al Husseini's Elite Muslim SS Brigades were stuck at where ever they were with no transportation home. So they continued their Fundamentalist Islamic Belief at those Nations, as well as being the Military Arm of the Islamic World, the Holy Warriors of Islam, to accomplish the Fundamentalist Islamic 109 Suras of the 114 Suras of the Holy Koran's (Quran) Calls to All Islamic Believers to War Against the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers.

To kept the hatred of the Jews going Fundamentalist Islamic Al Husseini makes it Mandatoy School Curicuulum of Chancellor Hitler's Mein Kampf taught as a success story sabotaged by the Jews, the Fundamentalist Islamic 109 Suras of the 114 Suras of the Holy Koran's (Quran) Calls to All Islamic Believers to War Against the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers as Islamic Law, and of course the Blame the Jews for everything, "Protocols of the Wise Elders of Zion".

Africa:

In throughoutAfrica, the spread of Islam started when the Arabic Omani Muslims were capturing Africans and selling them into Slavery. Eventually, the Arabic Omani Muslims Colonized these Nations and remained at Nations like Kenya, so to this day the actual African Swahilli are Fourth Class Citizens in their own Nation with the Arabic Omani Muslims being the Ruling Elite. This is why Obama's Father named him a Arabic Omani Muslim name, Barak Hussein Obama, instead of a Swahilli name, as to have a Swahilli name is to be automatically discriminated against. Being a Muslim (definition, completely subjugated to Islam, aka Fundamentalist Islam) means believing in the Fundamentalist Islamic 109 Suras of the 114 Suras of the Holy Koran's (Quran) Calls to All Islamic Believers to War Against the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers as Islamic Law.

That is why the hatred of the Jews at Europe, "Middle East", America (US), Africa and Worldwide.

Long ago as part of my being a US Military Asymmetric Warfare Officer, when Egypt was still a US Ally, I attended College at US Ally Egypt to learn Arabic, then later on Islam only taught in Arabic. Even back then it was Mandatory School Curriculum to pass the Classes or be expelled of Chancellor Hitler's Mein Kampf taught as a success story sabotaged by the Jews, the Fundamentalist Islamic 109 Suras of the 114 Suras of the Holy Koran's (Quran) Calls to All Islamic Believers to War Against the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers as Islamic Law, and of course the Blame the Jews for everything, "Protocols of the Wise Elders of Zion". This is when I woke up to reality and stopped using my name of david after having my pants and underware pulled down in Public for them to see if my penis was circumcised (does not matter if that was done for hygienic reasons), as their way to figure out if you are a Jew or not (to be beaten and killed), as to why I use an Arabic name instead while living for years of consecutive tours with the locals at Islamic Nations. Survival Hint: If they start wagging a finger at you screaming, "Jew, Israelis, Jew, Israelis" over and over again, RUN, they are working themselves up to kill you.

it doesnt matter who was there first what matters is that people had established homes and families and then came some displaced people and took over the established homes and forced people to move out there homes and were forced to give up the land they were living on.... so people u tell me how would u feel if i came to ur house and forced u to move and give up everything u had goin on because i need a place to stay?? riddle me that...how would u feel if the native americans who were here before me and u come back for there land and homes and kick u out of ur for that reason...u would stand up and fight wouldnt u. anyways no matter what anyone says on this post we rnt gonna make a difference talkin about it

@Corky - In general, we see that people get what they deserve.

If the money US has given to Israel over the years (billions of dollars every year) was actually used to help displaced Palestinians, these people would have loved both US and Israel. Instead, that money is used to marginalize, torture, and murder these people. And that is why they hate us even more than they hate Israel.

LLM812 - Corky -To clarify, I don't thing "the world" hates Jews. I am no history buff

That's is correct you are NOT a History Buff (Too Lazy to do the actual Research).

See jerry l-1335133 post#5.7.

Add the fact observed by British Army Officer, Sir T.E. Lawrence during WWI, that the Arabs were mostly Arabic NOMADIC Tribes, that did not believe in Land Ownership nor remaining in one place (Nomadic). Sir T.E. Lawrence used the differences between the Arabic Nomadic Tribes to fight each other and their similiarities to unify the Arabic Nomadic Tribes Allied to the British (Colonies). Being Nomadic is why all of Sir T.E. Lawrence's attempts to assist in forming a Single Unified Arabic Government at one location failed, with most of the Arabic Nomadic Tribes then going back to being what they were Arabic Nomadic Tribes wandering throughtout the "Middle East".

Later on, in 1948, US Army Officer Colonel Marcus (aka Stone) goes to the Middle East to assist the Jews, since the Arabs refused to accept the UN Mandate and surrounded the Jews to exterminate them. His actions of uniting the Pro Jew Arab Tribes to fight against the other Arab Tribes resulted in the defeat of the combined Arab Military Forces, and the final recognition of the Nation of Israel. Since then the Nation of Israel spent most of their limited funds on the development of the Nation of Israel Infrastructure and on their own people (Jews, Arabs, European Jews, Immigrants, etc.); while the Arab Nations spent all of their wealth on USSR Weapons leaving their own people living in poverty and their Arab Governments blame the Jews for their people's poverty. Since 1948 the UN and US had Arms Embargoes and Sanctions against Israel; while allowing the Fundamentalist Islamic Arab League of Nations to spend all of their Wealth buying USSR weapons, this is why the Israelis created their own Israelis Military Industrial Complex designing and manufacturing better weapons than the US; examples: The Atomic Bomb (Einstein), Merkava Tank, Spaced Armor, Gali Rifle, Uzi Submachinegun, Reactive Armor, Cluster Bombs, Artillery Submunitions, IAI Nesher and IAI Kfir Fighter Bomber Aircraft, Non Lethal Ammunition, Iron Dome, etc. to defeat the Arab Military superior numbers continually attacking them resulting in the Members of the Fundamentalist Islamic Arab League of Nations losing all the land of the West Bank, Gaza, Sinai, Palestine, Golan Heights, part of Jordan, part of Egypt, Lebanon, etc..

Go to a College at a Islamic Nation and learn Islam and then you will see why the Islamic Believers will not stop attacking Israel (Jews) and instead develop their own Nations and stop attacking Israel and be happy with all of this land:

http://usiraq.procon.org/files/USIraq/arabworld5.jpg

Do NOT even say Palestine is the Center of the Islamic Belief, that is Heresy, Mecca (Saudi Arabia) is. After the defeat of the Defenders of Palestine, the Islamic Believers destroyed everything (Jew, Christian) and built Mosques. As recorded in the Days of Islamic Ramadan.

dreamjoehill - the nation of Palestine

Your being Uneducated is showing. The "nation of Palestine" still has not been recognized by anyone, as to why they are still attempting recognition at the United Nations.

dreamjoehill - So some zionists bought some land in Palestine. The idea that Israel is a lawful nation because some zionists bought some land 80 yaers ago is just more lying zionist propaganda!

Nice FAILED attempt at your own propaganda, we are not talking about the Palestinians selling their land to the Jews 80 years ago, we are talking about current and recent events.

dreamjoehill - END ALL US AID TO ISRAEL!

Good, then we will hand you a rifle and some bullets so that YOUR Chickenhawk arse can go fight the Fundamentalist Islamic Hamas Foreign Fighters at Afghanistan, South and Central Americas, Africa, etc., then we (US Military) and the Israelis Military won't have to do what you just volunteered to do with your Uneducated Chickenhawk arse.

Max^108 - If the money US has given to Israel over the years (billions of dollars every year) was actually used to help displaced Palestinians, these people would have loved both US and Israel.

Sing it Max^108:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3MiD_U4CHQ

Get this thru your head. By current Fundamentalist Islamic Laws the Law is the 109 Suras of the 114 Suras of the Holy Koran (Quran) Calls to All Islamic Believers to War Against the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers.

This is why after the UN warned President Obama NOT to give Palestine $900 Million US Taxpayer Money, and President Obama did anyway, the Hamas Warlords (aka the Government of Palestine) seized by armed force the $900 Million and used this US Taxpayer Money to buy more weapons, ammunition, bomb making materials, rockets. The portions of the US Aid that were Humanitarian Assistance as Food, Building Materials, Medical Supplies were seized by force by the Hamas Warlords and horded on their armed guarded Hamas Warlord Compounds to force more neutral Palestinians to either join Hamas or starve and face daily beatings. The new "volunteers" that join Hamas to prove their Loyality to the Hamas Warlords, must serve at least 9 months as Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadist Hamas Foreign Fighters exported Worldwide to conduct the 109 Suras of the 114 Suras of the Holy Koran's (Quran) Calls to All Islamic Believers to War Against the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers; in return for these Fundamentalist Islamic Hamas Foreign Fighters the Islamic World provides the Hamas Warlords with more weapons, ammunition, bomb making materials, rockets, funds from the Trillion USDs per year of Mandatory Islamic Tithes of over 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers Worldwide.

To make matters worse, even after what happened before, SOS Clinton gives them $400 Million of US Taxpayer Money.

While at Afghanistan, we started to notice we started killing and capturing more and more Fundamentalist Islamic Hamas Foreign Fighters. Scientific methods to trace them to their families at Palestine. We started to investigate and found out that the Holy Warriors of Islam (almost a Million) were being trained, armed, funded by the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Special Forces, Quds, at the Fundamentalist Islamic Autonomous Kurdistanis Region of Northern Iraq, Southern Turkey, Eastern Syria, and Northwestern Iran. The Trillions USDs per year of Mandatory Islamic Tithes from the over 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers Worldwide being funnelled thru "Non Established Financial Institutions" of the Imams at the Mosques Worldwide to the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran. Their Mission using Asymmetric Warfare (Insurgency) to defeat the US And US Allies Worldwide.

The graduates of the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Special Forces, Quds, being the Fundamentalist Islamic Muslim Brotherhood, Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban, Fundamentalist Islamic Army of Islam Gaza, Fundamentalist Islamic Kurdistanis (PKK, HPG, KGK), Fundamentalist Islamic Hamas Foreign Fighters, Fundamentalist Islamic Pakistanis Taliban, Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada International Franchises, Fundamentalist Islamic Al Sheebah, Fundamentalist Islamic Army of Islam Pakistan (Not the US Ally Pakistanis Military), Fundamentalist Islamic Libyan Islamic Fighting Group aka the "Libyan Rebels" supported by President Obama, Fundamentalist Islamic Hezbollah, etc.. We are NOT talking about hundreds we are talking about Millions of Fundamentalist Islamic Holy Warriors of Islam aka Islamic Jihadists aka Terrorists.

The President Obama lie that you believed, Al Quada is defeated and on the run. The Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada Yemen Franchise just reopened their Islamic Jihadist Training Camps again near the southern border of US Ally Saudi Arabia, with their intent of Overthrowing US Ally Saudi Arabia.

You like the British (id!ots, not "experts" at the Chatham House of the British Institute of International Affairs) need to learn that their Actions not their Nations of Origin determine if they are Sunnis (Moderate Liberal Interpretation of the Holy Koran (Quran)) or Shia (Fundamentalist Islamic Interpretation of the Holy Koran Only). Like the uneducated saying Fundamentalist Islamic (Shia) Al Quada started at Sunnis US Ally Saudi Arabia; without acknowledging that Fundamentalist Islamic Osama Bin Laden originally created his Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada to Overthrow Sunnis US Ally Saudi Arabian Government.

If you want to know why all of this is occuring now go learn to do a Causative Timeline. The create a Causative Timeline. Your own Research is more valuable to you than me spoon feeding you, especially when you don't like the results (Obama's Fault).

Hey, the dogs are cool. Nothing wrong with dogs. I agree with the "Hamas blank-blankers" but it would bother me to see that happen to defenseless dogs.

Especially since their collective religion is simply to find the next garbage can full of the sweet smell of whatever delicious leftover meat got thrown out that day. hmph...humans...with the killing and the killing and the kill....squirrel....snff snff snff....screw humans.

Henrich i can see you are German..your past did not teach you anything....the world is behind israel 100%...nazy germany is dead go scheiss im see you dumm kopf..

Untermensch? That term is sooooo 1942...

/sarc

It's also a racial slur. I'm sure you know it means "sub-human". CoH violation much?

The problem is very simple. Hamas maintains it charter for the destruction of Israel. They had no intentions of trading peace for the Gaza strip when Israel gave it back in 2005. The Palestinians had their chance. Noe Israel needs to kick some Hamas A$$!

What's the problem? Since Israel controls their borders. Gaza is nothing but an open air prison and the inmates want out. Can we just get to WW3, this movie is getting boring. After the "peace" Hamas will just reload with bigger and better weapons. The next movie starts in about 4 years.

MCR,

Egypt also has a border with Gaza and they limit their movements even though Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood

Defend America Forever,

Will do my part for sure....let me take a stab at your question;

"Just tell HAMAS to stop with the rocket attacks

Israel GAVE "Hamas" the entire Gaza strip a few YEARS ago.... What's Hamas problem ?"

It is their strategy that is their problem.

A willingness to die plus an inability to take any of the enemy with you when you die only results in your death. Not theirs. I'm not sure why Isreal just doesn't finish the job. Well, I know why but the peace they seek will never come to them anyway so why not at least extract the malignant tumor and remove it from your nation. Seriously. If the Egyptians are that concerned then by all means send them on through that border and on straight to the Nile delta.

Troy,

I agree with you, but to answer your question; the only reason Israel doesn't complete the task is because if they go whole hog, the other Jihadist racist in that area will have the opportunity to openly commit genocide. Egypt has already come out in support of Hamas if Israel if the decide to invade Gaza with ground forces. Egypt knows you can't win with air superiority alone. So the Israelites sacrifice a few to save the many.

Look at the racist writings of william demuth, dreamjoehill, Chris-3130621 among others and you will see the truth of what racist parading around as liberals is all about!

re: #2. Please tell me you're joking.

How much did the trillions of dollars of debt racked up in Afghanistan and Iraq help the economy?

Well then we both shall see how this all plays out then, William. We will see exactly how feeble he is, wont we?

Defend America Forever

Nuclear weapons?? HAHAHHA

Thats like trying to kill athletes foot fungus with a shotgun blast.

Palestinians are in every inch of Israel.

They would have to nuke their own children (not that they wont mind you) and it STILL wont work.

William Demuth

I was born and raised a catholic and remain a devout catholic today. Your comments are not warranted. Why would you say that to Josh? You are an extremely hateful person. I will pray for you and hope Josh does as well.

No, Islam is God's chosen...wait....no, it's the Zulu Tribesmen....wait, that's not right either...

Dang it, with so many hundreds of religions all claiming to be "The Chosen of God" it's hard to keep them all straight.

The Catholic religion, which I am a part of, preaches there are many paths to God. We believe our way is the best, obviously, otherwise we would not be Catholics, but it is not the only way. We do not believe we are "The Chosen People". I believe if you live a good life and leave this Earth with more good than evil than there will be a special place in heaven for you. It does not matter if you are Jew, Christian, Agnostic, Atheist or Muslim. Leave them world a better place than when you came in.

Corky,

Sorry but I have to ask, have you even read the Bible. Jesus said quite clearly there is only one way and that is thru him.

Tether,

Jesus was speaking figuratively.

"The reason that so many Palestinians are being killed in proportion to Israelis are because Yahweh fights for them and with them"

Or is it because the rockets that they're firing into Israel don't have warheads on them? I have no idea why TF they waste their time and rockets, but they seem to like it.

Sure he was. It is quite clear there is only one way. And if anyone tells you differently they are a false teacher.

It is really quite simple, all satan has to do is get someone to accept a slight variation to the truth and his work is finished. Like thinking that we all believe in the same God just by different names. God the Father, the Holy Spirit, and the Son, Jesus, our Lord and Saviour, God's Son, born of a virgin, walked the earth, died on the cross to pay for our sins, and resurrected 3 days later, by God. The only true God. The God of Israel. There is no other way.

Tether,

That is your belief. And it is respected by me 100%. It is not, however everyones belief.

There in is the fundamental conflict among all our religions that has divided us all. Now, Christians and Jews for some reason as peoples were able to at least reach a level of tolerance with one another and eventually find common ground and peace with one another. Probably a common enemy if I had to guess....For whatever reason (and you know the reason) Islam seems incapable of peace...perhaps their is just alittle bit to much hate and not enough love in that book.

William, you are just a racist out running loose!

No one that does not believe as you deserves to exist in your pathetic, feeble little mind you racist!

Troy, can I add that the Buddhist are also able to find that peace, as are other religions. I agree that the cult of Islam is somehow lacking a proper leader to bring them to peace and remains a hate filled racist community.

Dear Gary and Barry. Since the Government has instituted "Don't ask , don't tell", I hope that you 2 are the first to be drafted.

A little behind in recent news aren't ya MCR???

Yeah, like that's worked at any point in the past 7 years.

Maybe if you add "please"?

Agreed. Isn't it also amazing how fast MSNBC is trying to get rid of the Benghazi story.

me, myself, andI - That's because 99% of the deaths and destructions are in Gaza.

Agreed. BBC too. They talk about proportionality. So if Hamas fire a rocket they should return one just as they did? then they will cry saying they killing babies!! Oh by the way Gaza is 100% under Hamas control no occupation.

me, I agree completely about CNN. I could hardly believe it when their guest was former PLO official, who said that 1) Netanyahu had started the crisis only because he was running for re-election and 2) The Israelis had, of course, stolen the Golan Heights. And the two reporters did not even ask her if she knew that the Israelis had acquired the Heights when they were used as a base to attack them three times. And let's not forget the very popular Anderson Cooper being sent to Gaza. I mean, they are getting to be about as Fair and Balanced as Fox News!

jupiter..there are still casualties on Israels side but they will not show Israels carrying injured or dead children like they do with the Palestinians and by doing that they are making israel the bad guy even though they were not ones who started all this..only showing one side as always from CNN. SHERPARD SMITH SAID IT BEST FROM FOX NEWS AND HE QUOTES " WE EDIT and SHOW WHAT WE WANT YOU TO SEE" ..END QUOTE..SO the media nothing more than a propaganda machine by who ever controlles it..and there is a long list of POS,s who control it

Careful, you're attempting to use Logic in a newsboard filled with religious nutjobs. They intensely dislike rational thought.

I'm always amazed at how Atheists treat there beliefs as....oh, I don't know...like a RELIGION!

B white,

Religious intolerance will only be replaced with some other form of intolerance. Only when the people of this planet recognize and accept each others differences, religious or otherwise, nothing will change.

Science : Hard, provable, FACT.

Religion : A bunch of guys drank some wine, told some stories, one of their great grandchildren a couple of hundred years later wrote it down.

I'll be back in a hour or two. Real life, man, it sucks.

By the same token there is no proof of the Big Bang Theory, there is only evidence and the rest has been pieced together but we accept it on faith which is the same as religion.

By the way you can take both things as if you follow creation in the Old Testament it follows the same path as science.

Jerry, big bang has substantial evidence. I see no such evidence for religion. Please identify any such evidence (and no, the bible in and of itself is insufficient, just like Harry Potter is insufficient proof of Hogwarts).

Who created the matter that the Big Bang formed into the universe?

Matt I hate to derail but who created the creator?

EngEsq,

Nobody knows where the original matter came from, we take on faith it was there. On religion there is much evidence of the cities that are spoken about in the bible, or in Egyptian writings they talk about Joseph.

I am not someone who takes religion word for word but I like the culture of family, education, and doing good.

I see njmick. Chicken and the egg on a universal scale. Inevitably they both exist and neither could exist without the other. Same is just as likely for the universe and god. I accept your right to not believe in god as the creator as long as you accept my right to believe he was.

Jews have gained the right of being, killed. All arabs will not stop till Israel is finished, or declare Palistine as a Country, with rights. Yes, maybe true that not all Arabs get along, but truth is,no one does. I live in U.S.A and guess what?, everyone will decieve you if they could, what's worse is, they stab you when you're not looking. But do not forget, when a group of enemies share the same enemy, they will be allied. All the arab countries are preparing, training, bettering them selfs, to defend Palistine by finishing off the country that has been killing children, women, and families for 100 of years. That day will come, and when the all Unite, they will be unstopable. Hey, maybe Russia can get in this too, after all they don't really like America after WW ll i think lol.

That simple! BTW obama supports Islam. Yes, I have proof.

You and every other right wing hater!

This has nothing to do with Islam, Israel killed more women and children than Hamas did!!!!

you think Judiasm is a fair religion? you are talking none since

it s a shame that we see everything upside down today.

God will bring justice in this life or the next.

@ totherepublic let me guess a video on you tube right.

Stop killing Palestinian innocent women and children and take my Blood instead, will that solve your problem?

Israelis are coward and have no dignity and no values for other people's life, SHAME ON YOU ISRAEL.

Let the children live to make a better life.

Stop the War, I know Israel is capable of destroying Gaza but use your brain and think for those women & children who are afraid and crying and praying for Mercy.

I heard some people on MSNBC SAYING : Israel bought land in 1940 s I agree. But they also stole land and destroyed many innocent life and still!!!! enough is enough!

How do you expect God to have mercy on you on the judgement day if you have no mercy on others!

May God bring justice, Amen

Maxeemas then go tell Hamas to quit using their own people as human shields so that so many innocent lifes are not lost. Time for all rags heads to come out in the open and fight like real men.

you are one sick idiot..you are hidding behind your children....justice will come but it will not be good for your people....belive me..you are the murderes....LONG LIVE ISRAEL..shalom

I do not want the people of Israel to die like the way Palestinians do every day. I care for every human been. Israel have broken every laws / UN SANCTION. How do you expect Hamas neither any one not to stand up for Israel aggression and stealing land afterland and building in occupied land, when Hamas try to stop Israel... we call Hamas Terrorist!!! Israel is the one triggring this war but selfish people like you guys refuse to accept the reality of what's really going on.

God will bring justice in this life or the next.. it s just a matter of time..

How did Israel start this? For years these rag heads have straped bombs around their chests went into coffee shops and buses fill of Israelis and blow themselves up

Just like speaking of santa means he exists too. As a concept, but not as an actual entity. Logical fail.

Sure,sure, "God" exists, just like Elmo. Too bad though, he is completely impotent, just like Elmo, without someone's hand up his backside, moving his lips.

Philippians 2:5-11

God does exist. You can choose to not believe. But someday you will as will everybody. And not all people who believe are uneducated. There are scientists and doctors and engineers and all kinds of educated people who believe. This is America so we do have the freedom to believe what we want to believe without the fear of being murdered or jailed. I just happen to be a person who believes that God does exist and that He loves everyone, even those who slander His name.

King James Version (KJV)

⁵ Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

⁶ Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

⁷ But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

⁸ And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

⁹ Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

¹⁰ That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

¹¹ And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Atheists are hilarious. They go to great extremes attempting to use logic to prove that God doesn't exist, when logic won't prove it either way. Actually, all they are doing is feeding their own egos by considering them selves smart enough to figure out questions far too big for their puny-a$$ minds.

lolol.

@ Maxeemas Actually all will be accountable to God. @ Alan: There will never be true peace in this world, 6,000

years of written history and it hasn't happened yet.

dis, the Israelis BOUGHT the land, starting in the late 19th Century. Learn some history, for goodness' sake.

and what they didnt buy they stole

why do you have to keep breathing? Do you understand that the palestinians have fired over 1000 rockets into Isreal since the 1st of the year. Who are the palestiniains firing at? Military targets? Who exactly should be charged with crimes against humanity?You are aware that Isreal continues to provide power and humanitarian aid to the palestinians? You want to end the conflict? I would suggest that the palestinians be loaded up and dispersed into the other Muslim countries in the region. As far as stealing land. the palestinians were instructed to leave their homes, by their muslim neighbors. They were told to leave the area because they were going to invade and kill every living thing in Isreal. When you wage war you take the chance that you will lose. When you lose the fight you cannot lay claim to anything, you lost.The land was not stolen it was won fair and square. Muslims attacked and lost. If you cared for the palestinians you would support the dispersion of these peoples and let them immigrate to neighboring countries. i do not support killing for killing sake. That is why I support Isreal's right to defend themselves. There never was a nation of palestine. disperse these people and let them immigrate. This is the only humane coarse of action.

Discorodeo, are you kidding me...Hamas is hiding in villiages behind women and children..we shoot rockets at our schools..you blow up houses with children in it....we just aim better....

Violation against human rights are you kidding me you make me laugh...Palestine is the one that gets still water , Electricity,red cross is crossing every day from Israel to you guys to bring food and first aid....We are at war with you guys because of YOU.. and because of..get the story straight.....BTW we are staying and we will win...

Cassandra : Israel bought some and stole a lot and took many innocent life for it.

I swear, God will not let the Israelis go unpunished for all their crime committed against humanity.

Mark my word for it.

You hateful and bloodthirsty zionists think that you can fight the world, but in your hearts you know that it is futile and that without peace, Israel is doomed.

END ALL US AID TO ISRAEL!

Right On. END ALL US AID TO ISRAEL!

Why does there be a United States Of America, A Russia, A England or A Any Country which most have stolen land through Wars and such? Palestine are a people that nobody wants. None of the Arab countries wants to fight for them or have them move into their territory. Syria shoots down their own people in the streets by the thousands. Jordan people are rioting not over Palestine but their gas prices and living costs. The only way this is going to end in Peace is that both sides have to stop the killing, firing rockets by the hour, Hamas removing themselves because of their hatred and bigotry and wanting to kill every living person in Israel. That is the bottom line. You have to want Peace to have Peace.

plestinians before the 6 day war had no land or country and the uar guranteed them land is they fought with them against israel. so at the end when they lost the arabs just left them in the lurch. then this mythical land called palestine was started. that was to be there lands name if they won the war. they lost so now we sit after 50years hearing the same bull and listening to the same talk of rocket ping pong. reminds me of 1985 when i was on a wrestling tour in uar. by the hotel pool me and couple of british guys were drinking beer and watching iran and iraq doing the same thing only on a larger scale. its started at sunset and went on till after midnight lobbing cannon fire at each other. it was like the 4th of july. well gaza is doing the same thing now because they have rearmed themselves thru iran and egypt opening up the sinai for traffic to flow. mubarek kept the peace we now have a goverment that is behind hamas. so in a sense this is obamas folly. he let it happen even helped them. so now we are faced if this does go to a war to help israel by treaty. what will the community organizer do should be the question?

WHOOOP! You go Roz!