"This is an injustice carried out by the Israelis," the house's caretaker, Mohammed Samara told The Associated Press. "There were no resistance fighters here. We want to live in peace. Our children want to live in peace. We want to live like people in the rest of the world."

Then get rid of Hamas yourselves! You elected them....GET RID OF THEM!

Israel wants and deserves to live in peace too! You bomb them every day...now you know how they feel! Dont like it? DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

Where is the Liberal news media criticisms of the Hamas rocket attacks?

Why no photos of the damage in Tel Aviv??? Once again, I had to go to an alternative news source for more information and there was a great deal more in this article.

http://www.haaretz.com/

Good morning, Fed.

Good point Fedup,

and just today I read that Hamas is executing Palestinians and dragging the body of one of them through the streets, for allegedly helping Israel. It's time to ask who is really occupying Gaza. Hamas are terrorizing the Palestinian people and preventing the entire region from achieving some semblance of a normal life.

Someone sent me an article titled: Gazan gunmen execute alleged collaborators

Google it. There is a picture of Hamas gunmen dragging the body of one of their victims through the streets. The only way to deal with these savages is to defeat them once and for all! It's time to take down Hamas!

And you know for a fact that Hamas is responsible for this? I highly doubt it

Fred, when they say "elected", I think most in Gaza, had a gun to their head at the ballot box, and if you didn't vote for Hamas, I think you may have been shot, or thrown off roof tops, like Fattah members. I don't think the dragging through streets on motor cycles techinque was used then.

And if the President and all the others are saying that they "fiercely support Israel" why does anybody think that Hillary Clinton is going to make any difference?

Just makes things worse. Only someone that is really interested in seeking peace, just as Anwar El Sadat. Anybody from the US is just a puppet.

you people can argue as much as you want... but this is the bus i take home from work every day. theres no way any of you feel the way im feeling right now. get over yourselves and just be supportive of the victims. until youre sitting in your office and hear that the bus you take every day was bombed, you will have no clue what life is like here.

Very glad that you're safe, rockmebritney.

get over yourselves and just be supportive of the victims.

The people of Israel need to take responsibility for their actions. Stop asking everybody to feel "sympathetic" to a group of people that is constantly arguing with the neighbor.

How about feeling sorry for all the children that the Jews have killed? It goes both ways, and usually the people that can't buy weapons, are the people that end up dead.

Kick Netanyahu from power, and elect someone that will try at least to negotiate, without the military power of the US.

Well said

Your lack of compassion for a fellow viner is overwhelming. Why would you post something like this??? Your post is repulsive.

Good Morning Chef!!! Nothing has changed in Israel overnight.....Hillary blew threw and left the terror in her wake. Trying to brow beat Netanyahu into a cease fire with assurances of "a few years of peace"? Guaranteed, the rockets would resume in a week!

TALK IS CHEAP HILLARY....TALK IS CHEAP!!!! Resign already!

Good Morning Duqu! I posted a link to that story yesterday with video!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/spy-spy-hamas-publicly-executes-six-suspected-collaborators-with-israel-graphic-photos/#

‘Spy! Spy!’: Hamas Publicly Executes Six ‘Suspected Collaborators’ With Israel (*GRAPHIC PHOTOS*)
Yeah, good luck with those peace negotiations! They KILL their own!

Thanks for reposting that, Fed. Excellent posts.

Tell me again about the Peaceful Mooslime Brotherhood...Israel needs to leave the Arab stooges in Gaza alone & go to the head of the Mooslime serpent, Iran.

On May 16, 1948, one day after the declaration of independence, the Arab armies of Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon with Saudi Arabia attacked the newly independent state of Israel!

The only way Hamas and Iran can test Israel’s readiness and hardware is to send dozens of rockets into Israel. The fact that many Palestinians are sacrificed, in the exchange that usually follows, is inconsequential to them. The main thing is that Iranians now know what systems Israel is using and how effective they are defending themselves.

If they manage to kill a few Israelis in the process, that’s a bonus for them.

IRESPOND-2315268 How about feeling sorry for all the children that the Jews have killed?

According to the Palestinian Human Rights Monitoring Group, in the al-Aqsa Intifada, Palestinian military folk have used children as "messengers and couriers, and in some cases as fighters and suicide bombers in attacks on Israeli soldiers and civilians." Fatah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) have all been implicated in involving children in this way (see Convention on the Rights of the Child).

IRESPOND: Are you equally concerned about the Palestinians putting suicide bombs on children?

K I Smart Simple

Where is the Liberal news media criticisms of the Hamas rocket attacks?

Okay, how about this: Not that I want them to improve, but their aim is terrible. The Israelis have managed to kill loads more Palestinians, a few were even legitimate military targets.

Please don't get the idea that I am a supporter of Hamas, I'm not. Nor am I a supporter of Israel I have equal contempt for both.

IRESPOND-2315268

How about feeling sorry for all the children that the Jews have killed? It goes both ways, and usually the people that can't buy weapons, are the people that end up dead.

Absolutely. I feel sorry for all the children that are killed: Those who are collateral damage from a bomb strike on a rocket site as well as those who are primary damage from a bomb strike on a bus.

To me the one point in the article that makes part me say that Israel should fire up the tanks:

Celebratory gunfire rang out in Gaza City when local radio stations reported news of Wednesday's explosion, Reuters reported.

It reminds me of the Muslim communities celebrating on TV on 9/11... I to would like a measured, careful response and possible truce.. but I agree with the post Unless Palestine "dumps" Hamas and denounce openly Hezbollah then peace is not going to happen

Since the US is hesitant in "taking sides" and try the olive branch.. seems to just open Israel up for further rocket attacks... it is time to Ostracize regimes INTERNATIONALLY with sanctions.. the same way we are doing with IRAN.. and draw the line in the sand... otherwise... This will cycle again and again.. and Yes... NBC can put up the "death" figures all they want 1 Israeli death from multiple rockets indiscriminately launch speaks of Israels anti-missiles and the "terrorists" lack of capability...

NO country has to suffer this and I blame (partly) the US for sending a dual message.. the "uptick" in violence followed the Elections because the Islamist knew that Pres. Obama would do basically what he is doing now.... nothing.

This bombing of a bus illustrates one of the main differences between terrorists like Hamas and those who have to defend themselves against them. Israel has taken great pains to try and avoid civilian casualties while Hamas and the rest of these terrorists deliberately target civilians like they did with this bomb on a civilian bus. Hamas sits their and whines about civilian casualties while at the same time they are deliberately causing them on both sides of the conflict. They intentionally target civilians in Israel while also causing civilian casualties on their side. While the Israelis do their best to avoid hitting civilians, some civilian casualties are inevitable because the cowards of Hamas use civilians, including their own women and children, as human shields. They place their rocket launchers in school yards, next to hospitals, and on rooftops in civilian neighborhoods while using the basements of civilian homes and other civilian facilities to store their weapons stockpiles. They leave the Israelis with little choice but to accept that they are going to cause some civilian casualties because their only other option is to do nothing to take out Hamas' ability to launch their rockets and stockpile their weapons. Hamas demonstrates the height of hypocrisy through their actions. Why the news media does not point this out is beyond me. The news media seems to try and slant every story in such a way as to try and make people feel sorry for the Palestinians. They are the ones that elected these Hamas terrorists as their leaders and are now living with the consequences of their actions. If the Palestinians really want peace and to not have to worry about bombs killing them then they need to throw out these terrorists, not support them and elect them as their leaders.

I want to remind you that, seven years ago, Israel withdrew from every square inch of Gaza. Now, Hamas took over the areas we vacated. What did it do? Rather than build a better future for the residents of Gaza, the Hamas leadership, backed by Iran, turned Gaza into a terrorist stronghold. They fired thousand of rockets at our cities, at our towns, at our civilians, at our children. They’ve smuggled thousands of rockets and missiles into Gaza, and they deliberately place these rockets and missiles in civilian areas: in homes, in schools, near hospitals. This year alone, they fired over one thousand rockets and missiles at Israel, including close to 200 rockets in the last 24 hours....

I’m stressing this because it’s important to understand one simple point. There is no moral symmetry; there is no moral equivalence, between Israel and the terrorist organizations in Gaza. The terrorists are committing a double war crime. They fire at Israeli civilians, and they hide behind Palestinian civilians. And, by contrast, Israel takes every measure to avoid civilian casualties. I saw today a picture of a bleeding Israeli baby. This picture says it all: Hamas deliberately targets our children, and they deliberately place their rockets next to their children. Despite this reality – and it’s a very difficult reality – Israel will continue to do everything in its power to avoid civilian casualties....."

http://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/2012/11/16/netanyahu-tells-foreign-press-there-is-no-moral-symmetry-the-terrorists-are-committing-a-double-war-crime/

The people of Israel need to take responsibility for their actions. Stop asking everybody to feel "sympathetic" to a group of people that is constantly arguing with the neighbor.

Likewise, stop asking ME to feel sorry for a bunch of dimwits who VOTED IN Hamas. They're getting what they deserve.

How about feeling sorry for all the children that the Jews have killed? It goes both ways, and usually the people that can't buy weapons, are the people that end up dead.

And have you no sympathy for the six young men - who were PALESTINIANS at that - that were shot execution style by a bunch of Hamas thugs because Hamas "believed" they were giving information to the Israelis. And one of these young men was dragged through the streets of Gaza on a motorcycle, with a Hamas rider chanting "GOD IS GREAT!".

That's right - shot EXECUTION STYLE. NO TRIAL. NO ATTORNEY. NO JURY. JUST SHOT ON THE SPOT.

Where's your outrage on THAT, Irrespond?

Kick Netanyahu from power, and elect someone that will try at least to negotiate, without the military power of the US.

Sure. But remove HAMAS from power first. How's that??? Because you know what's going to happen anyway in a few years if the Palestinians get "their" land back, right- Irrespond? The Palestinians are going to come crying, bytching and moaning to us how they are "oppressed" by the very group they VOTED FOR IN the first place. After a few beheadings of women, shooting of children in schools and Christ knows how many other daily miseries they will have to endure under their beloved Hamas. They'll scream how they need us to "help" liberate them. And you know what Americans will say to that? UP YOURS, Palestinians. You made your bed, you LIE IN IT.

IRESPOND-2315268 How about feeling sorry for all the children that the Jews have killed?

Do you mean these children?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDohNq9BORo&feature=endscreen&NR=1

Behind the Scenes: Palestinian Demonstrations

See what the Palestinians teach their CHILDREN????

Children that grow up to continue their parents hatred is child abuse!

Ooooooops! Almost forgot this one, Irrespond. My bad:

bigstory.ap.org/article/hamas-kills-suspected-collaborators-israel

Enjoy.

While fighting rages between Israel and Hamas, Hezbollah watches and waits

http://www.timesofisrael.com/while-fighting-rages-between-israel-and-hamas-hezbollah-watches-and-waits/

Analysts say domestic considerations and fallout from the Syrian civil war keep the Lebanon-based organization on the sidelines

Hezbollah has offered quiet words of encouragement to the Palestinians, pledging support and calling on Arab states to send them weapons to fight Israel. But beyond that, the Lebanese militant group appears to be staying firmly on the sidelines.

The military option appears off the table for Hezbollah. If it were to join Gaza’s Hamas miliants in firing rockets at Israel, it would likely raise an outcry from many in Lebanon accusing the Shiite guerrillas of dragging the country into a war with Israel. When Hezbollah sent an Iranian-made reconnaissance drone over Israel last month, the group boasted of its capabilities — but critics in Lebanon slammed it for embarking on a unilateral adventure that could provoke Israel.

Hezbollah is also hamstrung by the civil war in Syria, which has heavily damaged its reputation. Once praised across the Arab world as its champion against Israel, now many — particularly in the region’s Sunni Muslim majority — see it foremost as the backer of Syrian President Bashar Assad in his bloody crackdown on the uprising that erupted against his rule in March 2011

Anything Hezbollah says against Israel’s campaign will ring hollow for many. Already Syrian regime opponents have drawn parallels between Israel’s bombardment of Gaza and Assad’s crackdown, posting gruesome pictures on social media sites showing dead children in Syria and Gaza.

“Condemning Israeli violence while standing by a Syrian regime that is killing its own people definitely highlights the hypocrisy of Hezbollah’s Syria stance. It will further sink its standing in the Arab street,” said Randa Slim, a research fellow at the New America Foundation in Washington.

Activists say close to 40,000 people have been killed in 20 months of fighting in Syria. The brutal campaign by Assad’s regime against the Sunni-dominated uprising has undermined the so-called “Axis of Resistance” — the anti-Israeli and anti-American alliance of Syria, Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas. Embarrassed by the bloodshed, leaders of Sunni Hamas who had been based in Damascus since the late 1990s broke with Syria, sided with the rebels and left for Egypt and Qatar, though Hamas’ fighters in Gaza have continued to receive weapons from Iran.

exposeazioliar

Over 135 Gazans, including women and children, have been killed and more than 1,100 others have been injured in over 1,450 Israeli attacks on the besieged Palestinian territory since November 14.

How many blood thristy israelis died ? You can count them on one hand.

Just because you are the underdog in a fight doesn't mean you're right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHbCGC6amdk&feature=related

Arabs for Israel - X-Muslims for Israel - Hamas leader's son

Mosab Hassan Yousuf, son of Hamas leader of West Bank Sheik Hassan Yousuf talks on T.V and as an Palestinian Arab Muslim claims he supports Israel because he is righteous and knows through his religion and history whose land it really belongs to, the Israelis.

He exposes all Arab lies against Israel and criticizes Islam for the hatred it teaches since he experienced it when he was a young boy. He very well admits the Arabs don't want peace, just hate, war and fight while Israelis are striving for peace. Thank you Mus'ab Hassan Yousuf you are a righteous Arab and are respected for spreading the truth, not Paliwood lies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZtiUdl9Cd0

Hamas official reveals where Palestinians came from

Hamas interior minister, Fathi Hamad, Tells the Egyptian television the truth: Half of Palestinians came from Egypt and the other half from Saudi Arabia, "the invented people".

I thought Obama was going to get this to stop by making those phone calls to Morsi and sending Hillary over there? He, of all people, should recognize when some one is telling you one thing but intends to do the exact opposite. Hamas has no intention of entering into a cease fire let alone negotiating a lasting peace.

Now Jay Carney is issuing statements on behalf of Obama saying that they will identify the bus bomber attackers and bring them to justice. What a joke. First, there is no doubt who the attackers are. Hamas. Second, how is Obama going to "bring them to justice" when we have no boots on the ground? This is not some simple criminal act or gang violence in LA. It is just one of many in the throes of WAR. Apparently Mr. Obama is incapable of recognizing war when he sees it. BTW, what , if anything, has he done to "bring to justice" those that killed our fellow Americans in Benghazi via a a terrorist assassination hit (yes,another act of war, Mr. Obama)?

Every time we fail to take action in response to such acts we encourage more. Mr. Obama is encouraging terrorist to attack us and our allies by his weak, essentially non-existent, responses to their continued war against US and our allies. Time to stand up in the face of war, Mr Obama, and join hands with our allies and put a stop to it.

PJ and newscover

Hamas is the one that started this by launching rockets, hundreds of them, into Israel. Stop making excuses for their barbaric acts of war.

From the NYT. And somehow Obama thinks that Morsi is the guy to go to to get this resolved!

By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Published: November 19, 2012

CAIRO — While holding itself out as an honest broker for truce talks between Israel and Hamasover the Gaza conflict, Egypt's new government sought on Monday to plunge into the battle over international public opinion on behalf of the Palestinian cause — an arena where the Israelis, more experienced in the world of the free press and democratic politics, have historically dominated.

In Egypt's most concerted effort to win more global public support for the Palestinians, advisers to Egypt's President Mohamed Morsi, a former leader of the Muslim Brotherhood who has been an outspoken supporter of Hamas, invited foreign correspondents in Cairo to a background briefing at which a senior Egyptian official sought to blame Israel for the conflict while at the same time maintaining Egypt's role as an intermediary pressing both sides for peace.

You are right!

There is no use of any truce with Hamas as it will be broken as soon as they settle next round of battles.

This has been typical of followers of Islamic cult since the birth of Islam.

As everyone knows Jewish lobby is the most powerful one in the US. They determine most of the foreign policy actions.

Jewish lobby and Jews of Israel must realize that there are no good Muslim rulers and bad ones when it comes to the Jews, Christians and other religious groups and US, Britain, France, Germany and other nations.

It was a blunder of them to dance with Sunni Saudis and co, oil companies and their lobbyists and outsource their dirty jobs with Iraqi wars to save the Sunni Saudi, Kuwaiti, UAE and other Sunni Arab League rulers.

What did they and we got by removing Saddam?

We got in return: huge losses from all sides (economic, more dead and injured soldiers and so on); more enemies; saved the backstabbing and most ungrateful Sunni Saudis and co and made them richer and stronger by high oil price manipulations; more hate preaching and killer training Salaffi and Wahhabi mosques all over the world; Sunni Saudi and co killing machines like al Qaida, Taliban, Hamas, MB, Salaffi groups and other label ones all over the world and more.

Even Egypt has a Salaffi, MB govt now! See the role of Turkey, a "staunch" NATO ally!!!!!

What roles do we have in Shiites vs Sunni battles in Syria, Iran and other places? Can we determine the winner each time?

With the Egyptian leadership now openly proclaiming its fielty to Hamas and others that wish to destroy Israel, it would be in Israel's best interest to disarm Hamas now. Otherwise they will continue to stock pile weapons, rockets,. etc..., as the Iranians want them to do, and wait for an all out coordinated attack on Israel. Best to destroy them now while they are weaker than wait. And for the idiots like Obama and Clinton that think this is going to be resolved by talking to Hamas and using Morsi as a negotiator, well, we all know that is not going to happen.

The solution will be for the UN to declare that Yemen or some such other place is the new Palestinian state and all the radicals can move there and commence to killing each other, just like they are doing in Pakistan and Iraq

One thing is for sure ... I'm FedupwithFedup and all the folks like him that have justified the land grabs and murdering for years ...

So go post on AlJazeera. You should make plenty of new friends and get lots of votes there and you'll all agree and then you'll be happy.

I happen to think Fed and all the folks like him are great.

I give you a history lesson that you would rather ignore, and the IDF operatives here conspire to collapse it.

Ignore your past and there is no hope for any peace.

There was nothing inflamitory in post 1.33, just the facts Jack. I guess the unedited history may sceme inflamitory for whose interests lie in making it up as they go along.

Why do liberals hate Israel and love terrorist muslims so much?

Why do liberals hate Israel

From my favorite Irish atheist

http://markhumphrys.com/left.israel.html

How many blood thristy israelis died ? You can count them on one hand.

So, once again, because the terrorists of "palestine" are inept and couldn't hit the person next to them with a beach ball, Israel is supposed to ignore the attacks or limit their retaliations to equal palestinian loses.

Wars should be fought with "mercy rules" like children's sports....this way we can all be winners! and nobody feels bad for losing. Hell....why not give the palestinians "achievement awards" too!

"And now, "Most Improved Terrorist of the Year" winner....Ackbar! Ackbar killed 4 Israelis, emotionally scarred 3 liberals and winged a dog with only 60 rockets this year... plus; only blew off half his left foot with a failed suicide bombing! Give it up for Ackbar!"

Why can't this country stop dictating to other countries what they can and canot do. These Hamas terrorist do not want peace, the do not know the concept of peace. The Muslim religion is sick and violent just look at the whole middle east. Iran wants Israel out and that is why they are using Hamas as the front guy to attack and once that happens, Calaphate the whole middle east. They are even trying do that in this country and Europe and if Obama lets them, because he loves his Muslim brothers and sisters. Obama made a huge mess in part of that region with Egypt and Lybia by supporting Mubarak and Gadaffi out. Its almost as bad as Bush with Iraq, now theres open doors are for Iran. This country will never learn to butt out. Hey! Hilary/Obama why don't you worry about the problems here at home and mind your own business what other countries are doing!!!!!!!!! I have a huge solution to dear old Obama why don't you STOP the aid $$$$$ to EGYPT, all the other Arab countries and use that money to help this broken country.

Chuck are you a serious mental midget? What day and age do you live in, for it is lucidly apparent you have failed to evolve with rest of the human race? Thus, it is quite obvious that Hamas, Egypt, and Iran are yet to evolve from their animalistic characteristics. These knuckle draggers start the indesciminate agressions on innocent civilians, then call foul when they get the conflict against Israel that they incited. The liberal media and the millions of peace keeping Muslims need to condemn Hamases actions, because the Israelis are not going to lye down and play dead. So when Israel wipes Gaza and all of its Hamas supporters off the face of the earth, just remember this is what you wanted. And nobody is going to cry over your unevolved destruction, there are animals going exstinct throughout time, and the time has come for Hamas and its supporters.

Hope people can see the true colors of Egypt, Turkey (a NATO ally when required by Turkey!), Qatar, the biggest criminal and culprit bigoted Sunni Saudis and other Sunni Arab League members.

Sunni Saudis have MB operating with Hamas label in Gaza and Salaffi and MB labels in Egypt.

What a bunch of allies to have?

newscover

One thing is for sure ... I'm FedupwithFedup and all the folks like him that have justified the land grabs and murdering for years ...

And the way things are changing in the middle east ... if the Israel's don't change their ways ... their days are truly numbered ... and they can thank their leaders as we can thank ours for Iraq .....

Feel free to head over to Gaza and help out your fellow brothers! Perhaps YOU can bring peace to the region, but I doubt it with your attitude! If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the PROBLEM!!

So since Im sure you voted for Barry, and he is in agreement with Israel, you are fed up with him too?

Saddam’s Kill Tally: Approaching two million!!! Those were MUSLIMS he killed with WMD!!!

http://www.moreorless.au.com/killers/hussein.html

So I guess you LIKED having Saddam in power? Perhaps fed up with Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy,who all voted for war in Iraq?

http://www.rightwingnews.com/quotes/demsonwmds.php

Educate yourself!

TV, spoken like a true little Muslim puppet. Keep trying to point the finger at Israel, irregardless of the true facts that educated humans read about. We here in the US are educated unlike your Muslim brothers in the middle east. We are all aware of the illiteracy of your people, its unfortunate that you cant control us with your false views of the truth and propagandizing those LIES. It may work in the country you are from, but we have evolved beyond that and have educated ourselves more in this day and age. And it is about time for you and your Muslim brothers to get into the present day and age. So save your CRAZY, and go sell it to the APES in your Hamas brotherhood.

Palestine has been reduced to 20% of the land it had since 1947.

Funny thing is that it's also 20% more land than palestine ever was prior to 1947.

Israel should simply destroy every resistor in Gaza, exile the rest of the population and move in. I fully support that. Anything less is simply mercy.

Hello FedupwithFed, while I agree with your stance on the Fed, I have to totally disagree with your stance on the latest incidents going on in Gaza. I think we can agree that nobody is going to benefit from the Palestinian Israeli conflict. The only hope as I see it is if these two groups can negotiate together in a diplomatic manner, reject outside influences and agree on a settlement. If they don't, they will be relegated to constant conflict and Israel will eventually suffer the wrath of the International community as really only the US is backing Israel's policies in the Middle East. The Europeans now have their hands full trying to stave off their eventual total economic collapse.

We are all one people and have been subjected to the whims of the Powers That Were as people all around the world are standing up to the oligarchs. In my humble opinion Israel has a right to exist. Like it or not their legitimacy has at least been grandfathered in, they just need to extend the same courtesy to their neighbors. I hope they come together for the good of the people!

By the way, only a knucklehead would think liberals in the US don't support Israel. But fake conservatives will reach at straws.

Simply put, a person has to be completely dumb to not recognize US liberals and conservatives support the state of Israel. It is pretty pathetic to try to say otherwise.

We can talk about one election, though. The election of Hamas for the government. So the people who live in Gaza and haven't bothered to leave fully brought this on themselves.

Morning Bill, Chef and Fed, like your writings.

What I find amazing how the racist atheist come out to support the Muslims, even when they are acting like complete terrorist and dead wrong. Also it is interesting how many on this thread and those related to this topic have ultra-liberals calling other known liberals, tea baggers for being in support of Israel's right to exist without terrorist lobbing rockets at their children. Some hypocrisy going on maybe, or is it the complete intolerance for any other opinion that isn't lock step with their own?

This situation requires people to look at it with critical thinking, not hypocritical thinking. Those who are racist enough to believe that one religion or one anti-religion should dominate the world should relate well to Mein Kampf, but reject in an effort to push their communist ideals on others while still reciting from it. It is quite an enigma, who really has the right to exist. The ultra-liberal racist on here say, as Hitler did, that the Zionist do not have the right to exist and protect themselves, why, please explain intelligently.

I feel horribly for all of the innocents on both sides, particularly the children who have weapons hidden right under them by terrorist so they can cry they are wronged as they target buses and shopping areas. It is a shame that terrorist make such a mess of things.

Hello RobGC, the country I come from is the good ole US of A. I guarantee you my bloodline goes a lot farther back in North America than yours does, but that really doesn't matter. Our country was founded on dissent, it's what keeps people honest. If someone doesn't agree with your view you talk about it and come up with at a minimum a compromise or you can agree to disagree. That's what you call education and tolerance, something that isn't being utilized much these days but there is always hope!

Your heavy handed approach carries no sway with fair minded logical thinkers.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving!

Good morning, Tracy and thanks very much.

I feel horribly for all of the innocents on both sides, particularly the children who have weapons hidden right under them by terrorist so they can cry they are wronged as they target buses and shopping areas. It is a shame that terrorist make such a mess of things.

Good post. Any sane person with a little compassion has to feel for those whose very lives are being used by sick opportunistic terrorists for their own personal gain. Amazing that such evil exists.

please explain intelligently

They will only continue to justify their hatred with more hatred and to mix truth and facts with lies. There is nothing intelligent about their methods.

TV, your Muslim brothers Economic boom is coming to an end. Oil and other enviromental polluting fossil fuels are soon to become a thing of the past. Soon that money well is going to dry up, and their ability to arm terrorist groups is going to be very limited. So your Hamas brothers should grab onto to any treaty that they can while they still have bargaining power.

We are all brothers Mr. Rob its just some haven't figured that out yet! And yes, I hope the Tesla and Keshe energy patents are released so that we don't have to rely on fuels that burn! It's not good for humanity and mother earth!

Thanks Chef,

I really believe that people that only watch news can't really and truly understand the complete confusion, angst and probably a lot a hatred that these folks have. I do appreciate the side who is bothered by the killing of their own innocent as well as the innocents on the other side and attempt to limit collateral damage.

Happy Thanksgiving to all American's on here who celebrate it. I personally am thankful for my family, my health and to live in a country where my freedoms may have been expensive, but were paid for dearly by my forefather's and their service so that I only had to repay a very small part with my service. HOOAH!

TrustVerify .... how many jews live with hamas? how many Palestinians/Muslims live in Israel.. Israel has the right to defend itself. Gaza was given to Palestine however that did not stop the attacks. Israel has the right to exist and they take every effort to avoid civilian deaths. The same can not be said about Hamas. they put a bomb on a city buss? fire rockets at population centers and then rejoice when they hear of a civilian death. Israel does not "rejoice at a civilian death" If this was reversed and Israel was Palestine and Palestine was Israel.. there would be no jews left. They would execute every last man woman and child.. your backing the wrong ppl. Jordan and others still back Israel so dont think for a minute that the US is "the only one" enough said

Isn't Hillary a little late to the table? And why doesn't she wash her f**king hair? She looks horrible.

CHUCK 1.23:

Do you take many 12 yr. olds for a lil walk behind the woodshed? White history? What happened to foward? I'll leave you with this....If it wasn't for the Whites you would still throwing your sh*t.................

I would have a lot more sympathy for the Palestinian position if they didn't

a) drag bodies down the street

b) celebrate when civilians are killed or injured.

Thanks Tracy

As my Israeli tour guide Ido says...You ain't seen nothing yet!

Here are Part One of my notes.

• For Part Two of my notes on the “War of Gog & Magog,” please click here
• For Part Three of my notes on the “War of Gog & Magog,” please click here

Today, let’s start by defining who “Gog” and “Magog” are, when this prophecy will take place, and what countries will be participating in the coalition against Israel:

1. The Hebrew Prophet Ezekiel lived in Babylon (Iraq) more than 2,500 years ago and the Lord gave him a vision of events that would take place in the future.
2. Ezekiel 38:16 specifically tells us these events will take place in the “last days” — that is in the End Times before the Messiah comes to set up His kingdom on earth.
3. Ezekiel chapters 36 and 37 set the stage for the “War of Gog and Magog” by describing that Israel will be reborn as a country in the last days, the Jewish people will come back to the Holy Land from exile all over the world, the Jewish people will rebuild the ancient ruins and make the deserts bloom again. These things have all happened, and this suggests we are getting closer to the fulfillment of the next set of prophecies.
4. Ezekiel 38:2 tells us that the war will be led be someone known as “Gog.” This is not a personal name. We’re not looking for someone named David Gog. Or Ahmed Gog. Or Dmitri Gog. Rather, “Gog” is a title, like a “Pharoah” or a “Czar.” Through the prophecy, this Gog is described as a military leader, a political leader, and a coalition builder. In Ezekiel 38:10 he is described as developing an “evil plan,” we know this is an evil man, a tyrant.
5. The Hebrew prophet gives us more clues. This “Gog” is going to be from the “land of Magog.” One has to do some historical detective work to determine what Magog is, but it is possible. Flavius Josephus, the first century Roman historian, wrote in his famous book, The Antiquities of the Jews, that the people of Magog are the people whom the Greeks called “Scythians.” This is a critical clue because we know from history that the Scythians were a people group that migrated from the Middle East northward and settled north of the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea in the region we know today as Russia and the former Soviet Republics.
6. There are other interesting clues, as well. Ezekiel 38:15 says that Gog “will come from your place out of the remote parts of the north.” Ezekiel 39:2 says Gog will come “from the remotest parts of the north” and come “against the mountains of Israel.” The country that is farthest to the north in relation to Israel is Russia.
7. Thus, we can determine that a Russian dictator will build a diplomatic and military coalition to surround and attack the State of Israel in the End Times.
8. The question then is what other countries will be part of the coalition?
9. In Ezekiel 38:5, we learn that the first ally Russia will have is “Persia.” Until 1935, of course, Persia was the legal name of the country we know today as Iran. So we know that Russia and Iran will build an alliance in the last days to attack Israel.
10. Ezekiel tells us that another country in the alliance will be what many English Bible translate as “Ethiopia.” The Hebrew word, however, is “Cush” and Cush is the upper Nile region that we now know as Sudan. While the current state of Ethiopia may also be involved in the war, the focus is really Sudan, which today, of course, is a radical Islamic Sunni state closely allied with Iran and Russia and deeply anti-Semitic and anti-Israel.
11. Next, Ezekiel says a nation called “Put” will be part of the alliance. Josephus identifies “Put” as “ancient Lybios” — the territory that today we call Libya and Algeria. Interestingly, both countries today are deeply hostile to Israel and closely allied with Russia.
12. The next country mentioned is “Gomer.” When one does the historical detective work, one learns that Gomer is what we now call Turkey. For much of the past 80 years, it didn’t make sense that Turkey would turn against Israel. Why? Because Turkey was a NATO ally, and a friend of Israel, the U.S. and the European Union. But in the last few years, the Turkish government has swung dramatically away from the West, towards Russia and Iran, and become deeply hostile towards the State of Israel.
13. The next country Ezekiel mentions is “Beth Togarmah.” This is the Turkic-speaking peoples that spread out from Turkey across the Causasus, and across Central Asia. We can’t be certain precisely which modern nation states from this area will join the anti-Israel alliance, because these are almost all Muslim countries with close links to Russia and Iran.
14. Interestingly, Egypt is not mentioned by Ezekiel as part of the Russian-Iranian alliance against Israel. This is interesting because Egypt has been such an historic enemy of Israel and the Jewish people. That said, perhaps Egypt’s non-involvement in the War of Gog and Magog could be explained by the peace treaty Egypt signed with Israel in 1979. This treaty is now in danger of unraveling, but at least for the near term Egypt is still unlikely to be in a position to strategically threaten Israel.
15. Iraq — whether under its biblical names of Babel, Babylon, Babylonia, Shinar, or Mesopotamia — isn’t mentioned in the prophecy either, yet it, too, is an historic enemy of Israel. Still, given the liberation of Iraq in 2003, the subsequent violence, and the rebuilding now going on, Iraq is not likely to be a threat to Israel in the near term.
16. Syria and Lebanon are not mentioned by named in the prophecy either. However, Ezekiel tells us repeatedly that the main military force that will be coming against Israel will be coming from the north, which means they will be coming through Lebanon and Syria.

That’s enough for today. In my next posting, I’ll explain what this coalition does and how the “War of Gog and Magog” will unfold.

http://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/2011/05/09/what-is-the-war-of-gog-and-magog-part-one/

Q...When they strap bombs on their children...it is hard to appreciate their political arguement....

In the city if you have a wild man shooting at people and homes, you put him down. The world has to do the same with Hamas, and others like them. You can not make deals with crazed people.

So now there's a cease fire. We've seen this before, and we've seen them ignored over and over again.

For the sake of the families on both sides, I hope it's a real commitment. The pictures of the casualties on both sides are heartbreaking.

What is this the 319th cease-fire in that neck of the woods?

Just finish off the idiots and end the problems, or this chit be going on for another thousand years!

So sad to see that the first post regarding the news of a cease fire is from someone calling for more violence. You should be ashamed Duqu.

Its true Israel cannot tolerate missile attacks from across its borders. Whats also true is that Hamas cannot tolerate assassins coming across its borders and killing the people's elected leaders. There actually are two sides to issues.

Imagine if our response to the Colorado movie shooting had been to bomb the perps neighborhood, killing his neighbors and family. This is what's going on in Gaza: collective punishment for the sins of a few extremists. America needs NO part of that and I'm proud of our Secretary of State for negotiating a temporary end to it.

They need another Crusade over there, badly, as all the low-life radical Muslims take over the Middle East. It happened in Iran (which used to be a Christian country), and is happening in Egypt, Libya, Sudan, Somalia, and will probably happen in Turkey (their new president is a goon), and throughout the rest of Africa, then Europe. We need to restrict, severely, Muslim immigration into the United States or it will happen here as well. Any doubts? Just go read the history of Iran. Perfect example. It may take another hundred years, but it will happen. That is their goal.

Sweet cakes were handed out in celebration in Gaza's main hospital.....

Something IMPORTANT was left out of the article. What "sweet cakes" were given to the Egyptian (Muslim Brotherhood) government to end the fighting ? And, what about Palestine and Turkey ?

Standby folks, open your wallets.

Hamas' definition of a cease fire:

Stop shooting rockets for the time it takes to restock and reload. Then start firing again, killing innocent civilians.

Fedupwiththefed,

“War of Gog and Magog”

Keep dreaming. Most of what was written in the Bible was written by a bunch of men roaming around the desert in a daze, thinking they were talking to God. The fact that most prophecy comes true is usually because someone wants it to. Take Amadinnerjacket in Iran, for example.

This truce will likely last no more than 24-48 hours, but it gives the administration a chance for some GREAT photo ops over the holiday weekend.

Hey alan3008 -

Since you are reading Iranian history now, maybe you can tell your readers how many wars Iran has started in the last 300 years, and how many America has started.

Thanks !

Did the bus attack happen after the agreed upon ceasefire?

Look there is no ceasefire. There are just lulls which allows regrouping. The rockets were coming months before this breakout. They will continue because the desire to eliminate the Jews will never die. The hatred runs too deep. One step forward is 2 steps back when on both sides a certain element does not want peace. There is no trust. Can't have peace without trust.

The 'peace talks' seem only to infuriate the Palestinians and they step up their rocket attacks. Way to go to celebrate the bombing of a bus full of civilians...

Patrook Goreng

So sad to see that the first post regarding the news of a cease fire is from someone calling for more violence. You should be ashamed Duqu.

Patrook, there was no cease fire at 530 this morning! MSN updated the article!

Fed,

The thing is the Messiah has come here on earth and a lot these problems are occurring because of the social turbulence of the setting up of His Kingdom. This is only the beginning.

"In the remembrance of God, are the hearts set at rest." - Koran

If I hear the Jews are Gods chosen ones one more time, I'm gonna puke!! When Jesus came born a Jew and offered salvation not only to the Jews but salvation to all mankind who accept him are gods chosen ones. All old testament bets are off !!! By not accepting Jesus the Jews basically told God to get screwed.

alan3008

Fedupwiththefed,

“War of Gog and Magog”

Keep dreaming. Most of what was written in the Bible was written by a bunch of men roaming around the desert in a daze, thinking they were talking to God.

Well, wont YOU be surprised!!

Messiah, shmessiah.... this is about a people trying to defend themselves from total eradication.

Israeli, Egyptian and Palestinian officials have confirmed Hamas and Israel have agreed upon a truce to end the conflict in Gaza.

As the BOMBS are still BURSTING…

The deal was brokered by the new Islamist government of Egypt, solidifying its role as a leader in the quickly shifting Middle East. Under the agreement, Egypt will play a key role in maintaining the peace.

The agreement will "improve conditions for the people of Gaza and provide security for the people of Israel," Clinton said.

In Israel, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office said he agreed to the cease-fire after consulting with President Barack Obama.

Israel launched the fierce Israeli offensive in Gaza on Nov. 14 to stop months of intensifying rocket attacks. Even after the deal was announced, air raid sirens continued to wail in southern Israel.

According to a copy of the agreement obtained by The Associated Press, Israel and all Palestinian militant groups agreed to halt "all hostilities." For the Palestinians, that means an end to Israeli airstrikes and assassinations of wanted militants. For Israel, it brings a halt to rocket fire and attempts at cross-border incursions from Gaza.

After a 24-hour cooling off period, it calls for "opening the crossings and facilitating the movement of people and transfer of goods, and refraining from restricting residents free movement."

BIG MISTAKE BIBI!!! Allowing them to send suicide bombers into Israel and those “goods” are more weapons!! TAQUIYA!!!!

Hamas officials said details on the new border arrangements would have to be negotiated.

Israel imposed its blockade of Gaza after Hamas, a militant group sworn to Israel's destruction, seized control of the territory five years ago. It has gradually eased the closure, but continues to restrict the movement of certain goods through Israeli-controlled crossings. Among the restrictions: a near-complete ban on exports, limited movement of people leaving the territory, and limits on construction materials that Israel says could be used for military use.

http://news.msn.com/world/hamas-israel-agree-to-truce-in-gaza-officials-say

While I doubt this cease fire will be held up by either side for very long, if the agreement allows civilians in Gaza to move freely and get out of the eventual line of fire, it is a good thing.

BTW, if this cease fire does hold up for a few years, it will be a great diplomatic coupe for Hillary Clinton, enhancing her status for 2016. Sure beats going into Israel for a fundraiser and insulting half the people in the region.

Duqu

im calling your bluff
(this is your post from the 19th)

Any time civilians die it's a tragedy and my heart goes out to the innocent civilians who were killed or wounded in that attack.

and Today:

The U.S. didn't negotiate a truce with Al Qaeda, and Israel shouldn't negotiate a cease-fire with Hamas!

Hamas are terrorists, pure and simple. The only way to deal with terrorists is to kill them!

I think your just pissed that Hillary did her job.

The Peace Agreement is a Formality---

Egyptian Mursi will make sure the other countries do not instigate another attack from HAMAS or other Terrorist Groups. Will Iran, the backer of all the Terrorist Groups?

HAMAS to this moment is still firing off Missiles into Israel from the Gaza Strip.

Can they hold to the Agreement?---If they don't, that will be the advantage for Netanyahu to send out full force on the Ground Military operations---it should only take a day or two.

The Peace Agreement is as fragile as an egg shell. "Israel Shall Not Exist". Pfff!

HAMAS. Can even one Terrorist be contained? Not possible--rogue Terrorists. Peace--what is that? The Gaza strip (HAMAS) owns 100 per cent of the former Israeli land. HAMAS just wants the Israeli's dead. All of them--and then they can't get along with their own people. The Palestinian population is begging HAMAS to stop, so they can save the lives of their families, and not to be used as targets for their War..

We should build a special dome over Middle East, like the one EPA have built over Springfield on The Simpsons movie, and let them sort it all out before the dome is ever opened.

Dirp...

have reading comprehension difficulties??? Hillary didnt do a damn thing! Photo ops dont count!!

The deal was brokered by the new Islamist government of Egypt, solidifying its role as a leader in the quickly shifting Middle East. Under the agreement, Egypt will play a key role in maintaining the peace.

Hillary blew her chance with Benghazi and WE WILL NOT FORGET!! SHE LIED AND HID!

FreeThinker-657099

What job did Hillary do?

I think your just pissed that Hillary did her job.

What job did she do? Nothing. Just trying to look good and pander to the democratic party. The same approach as the Obama administration. Talk to appease everyone, but don't act...

As soon as civilized intelligent people realize that islam is a virus the better we will be able to deal with it. All avirus does is spread without logic, reason or agenda leaving nothing but death, destruction, and despair in its wake. It creates nothing for the betterment of civilized society except twisted tormented evil thoughts within the brains of those infected. islam destroys people, the ability to think freely, historic art pieces and any hope of human kindness, happiness or education. Science has never cured a virus nor will it cure islam. The only thing we can do is isolate the virus carriers from the non-infected. Pretty soon the virus carriers will start to kill each other. No carriers ...no virus. Witness what is happening in countries where the non-infected have vacated. The virus carriers are killing each other.

Ask yourself this question. Where are the virus carriers unhappy? Gaza, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Syria, Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Somalia

Where are the virus carriers happy? USA, France, England, Europe, Australia to name a few.

And what do the virus carriers want to do in the countries where they are happy? They do not want to assimilate into the cultures where they live, they want to change their new homelands into the countries from whence they came. Sound logical? A virus is not logical..........nor is islam. Time to wake up people and smell the stench caused by the decay this virus known as islam leaves in its wake.

Republicans are the same cowards they claim the Democrats are.

They don't want to be involved in the Middle East, yet pick up their pink skirts and yell that we aren't involved when we aren't.

I hate people who vote for one party only. They make as much sense as Hamas.

A truce is great! But !!!!!! ~~~~~Does it mean, AS USUAL, that Israel holds her fire, while the Palestineans keep up the bang, bang, bang as they please ????

SEVEN:

You got "it".

The people in the Middle East, the Extreme Terrorists are already killing their own people. This is the first time, it is known, that the Palestinian people have been vocal for this War to stop, because HAMAS planted many of the Palestinians in obvious targets areas with women, children, and other family members living there--there was a Missile in a Palestinian's home--schools, medical treatment centers, etc.

They are Barbarians who will not stop and respect the "So called Peace Agreement". Egypt watching over them. Mursi can't watch over his own people from Violence.

Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama benefit from the fragile Agreement. Both will Boast they have been the ones to support Israel, Egypt, and save the lives of many populations. It will added to their accomplishments. It is the responsibility of the ME/N.Africa to really endorse the Treaty. Like you said, it will only take a couple of days, and back to firing off Missiles into Israel.

Did you know that the densely populations in the ME/N. Africa are immense compared to how many Israeli's living in Israel. For every 200 people killed in the rogue Countries, it would equal to about 2-3 Israeli's.

Most people cannot grasp the dense population of people in the ME, compared to Israel's few. Life has value in Israel. The others are dispensable.

Children stop fighting. Just say the truth for once. You hate them and you want them to die. Don't lie to me and to others or yourself. All religion is evil and eventually it will be gone but unfortunately we live in a time were religion still exists so deal with it. As for Israel say what you will about its past but right now it is not trying to conquer or destroy anyone. As for the muslims across the globe, they kill not only infidels but even there own believers even if it varies slightly. No not all muslims are bad, but until I see muslims rise up and say this is not us and condemn and even speak out and try to stop their fellow believers, well screw them. Most other religions have gotten past their killing phase unfortunately muslims have not. Well sorry this aint a few hundred years ago, either grow up like the rest of your fake religious brethren or die in the name of progress and humanity, the choice is yours.

Duqu

The U.S. didn't negotiate a truce with Al Qaeda, and Israel shouldn't negotiate a cease-fire with Hamas!

Hamas are terrorists, pure and simple. The only way to deal with terrorists is to kill them!

Here's a unique thought; let's let Israel and Gaza decide their terms. We could even keep our war mongering Neoconservatives out of the process...which would be even better.

FedUp and sotired: what's the matter, you afraid that, as usual, the Democrats are able to move the Middle East toward peace, while Republicans just start wars, intending to give their corporate partners no bid military contracts.

You will notice that until Sec. of State Clinton came went into the Middle East, the rockets on both sides were flying, the terrorists were bombing buses, and while everyone thought there might be a cease fire, the Israeli's were gearing up for a ground war.

Now, Sec. of Clinton is in Eqypt, after having been in Israel and there is agreement to a cease fire.

Of course, that could just be a coincidence, right.

Put your hate of all Democrats aside and you could see that, at least for the people in the region, peace is a good thing.

Now if only she can negotiate a peace settlement with the Tea Party and Grover Norquistians, then we'd have a real Happy Thanksgiving.

Israel blinked! Israel blinked! Ha, ha, ha! Israel blinked!!!

Islam calling itself a religion is the first lie. It is a criminal political ideology, like Nazism, Japan's Imperialism, Stalin's communism.

Islam allows their children to be sacrificed by Hamas, calling their suffering worship to Islam then wantonly display their children's death to illicitly seek "christian" sympathy for monetary gain.

These so called "radical" Islamic leaders and followers who murder and slander everywhere they are sent should be hunted down until they are either found to be dead or shot dead.

If the West doesn't have the stomach for it, then, turn the Jew loose and let them perform it for us. They have saved our world once before, even after we refused to save them. They have never corrected our piety in saving them all or accused us of being too late to actually save very many of them. Just very grateful that we came at all. We were very late and saved only a very few of them. Almost all were burned up and those that were not, were abandoned to freeze or starve while we chased the Nazis away. We saved not one from the flame and those we did retrieve were barely breathing naked skeletons

NO MORE PAYMENTS of any kind to any Islamic nation, country, or government or power or group or people or person. The Arab people prefer Islam, they should be allowed to suffer for their religion. Our aid allows them to bring their suffering upon us.

We have got to align our self beside the Jew with absolute support and conviction, quicker than we already have. Otherwise, we are all dead. There will be no one to chase our killers away. There will be no one left to save even a few of us or retrieve a skeleton of us.

Marchant said,

"The Gaza strip (HAMAS) owns 100 per cent of the former Israeli land."

WRONG

You think you can make it up and people will believe you? Gaza was never Israeli land. It was not even Jewish land in antiquity. In the 375 years that The Jews had a state of their own, not a province in someone elses empire, they never controlled that section of coastline, ever. the amount of time that ancient Israel controlled any coastline is under 200 years.

Do you really think that hamas could stop the rockets from being launched, even if they wanted to?

That place needs to be cleaned up , let the neighboring country's keep all those loons.

Here's a unique thought; let's let Israel and Gaza decide their terms. We could even keep our war mongering Neoconservatives out of the process...which would be even better.

There it is, Ol Doc! Keep that ethnocentrism under control. It does no one any good.

Dirp, you are delusional. Word of Hillary coming did nothing to stop the bus bombing. The "deal" was reached BEFORE she got there!

I'll give it 72 hours and Hamas will break the truce. I'm going to stop supporting Israel if the don't take the bull by the horn and fix the problem. Get soft again and you deserve the daily rockets.

KISS

You obviously have not been watching the news, or you are so filled with hate you can't see straight.

K I Smart Simple

Where is the Liberal news media criticisms of the Hamas rocket attacks?

You need to quit watching FOX and believing it's news! The news does not criticize, the news reports. FOX Noise criticizes.

What I'm saying is this. What is the use of negotiating with hamas, if they cannot control the rocket launches? Well,,,,,,, can they?

Fed, why dont you just go put the guns to the Muslim's heads yourself....stop trying to persuade others to do your killing for you....you clearly have absolutely no faith in any Muslim...how do you want the Muslims to act knowing you hate them??????? why cant you see that these people are hopeless...that is all their world has ever shown them...and you add to it...great.

why on earth cant Israel try the THREE people who injured the Israelis 3!!! 3!!!!....instead of killing moms and babies for something someone else did....oh and yeah...I would expect my mom to pick up a gun and fight back if you killed her baby...its perpetual.

RE: Islam is not a religion it is a political system.

You give it too much credit. Its a religion all right.

re·li·gion/riˈlijən/

Noun:

1. The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.
2. Details of belief as taught or discussed.

It's all Bush's fault.

"Imagine if our response to the Colorado movie shooting had been to bomb the perps neighborhood, killing his neighbors and family. This is what's going on in Gaza: collective punishment for the sins of a few extremists."

@Patrook. This analogy is poor. To come closer to explaining it would be something like this:

"Imagine if the killer from the Colorado movie shooting was a militant separatist from Canada who had infiltrated America in a larger conspiracy with Canadian leaders and then murdered dozens of American civilians in Colorado theater because of his hatred for the U.S. This incident was one of dozens of such incidents in the recent past. Then our response was to target those leaders in Canada and other "perps" of the militant hate group conspiracy who just happen to set up shop in schools, next to hospitals, and in densely populated apartment complexes. Every effort was taken to minimize civilian casualties in our response, but since this shooting was an overt act of war santioned by a neighboring country's leaders it is to be expected that some civilian casualties are unavoidable. This is what is going on...a neighboring nation's elected leaders santion the specific targeting and deaths of civilians, so the populace that elected them can expect a collective punishment for the acts of their extremist leaders."

You should not try and compare a single act of a crazed mass murderer in Colorado who kills his own countrymen because he is mentally disturbed, to the armed conflict between two groups of people living in seperate states, who practice different religions, have different cultures, and have a very complicated history of thousands of years of animosity and warfare.

This "ceasefire" will turn out to be like all previous ceasefires between Israel & Hamas. For certain, in less than a year militants in Gaza will be shooting rockets (that they obtain from Iran that are smuggled in through Egypt) into Israel targeting cities, neighborhoods, and towns. The Hamas militants will undoubtedly set up their launchers next to densely populated buildings, and if Israel responds with missile strikes Hamas will scream about the level of violent response.

This conflict is like laundry. You wear a set of clean clothes, the clothes get dirty, you rinse, wash, dry them and then repeat the cycle again. We've just been through the most recent getting the clothes dirty part. Next they'll clean up a bit, then repeat the cycle all over again. Nothing ever changes.

Roadkill:

You are soooooooo boring---how about "your" fault for making such a grossly passe statement.

Hillary Clinton has done an excellent job diffusing this situation.

The 1.2 million Palestinians in gaza are walled into an area similar to the movie "Escape From New York". Almost exactly the same area as the city of Atlanta which has 432,000 people. They are walled in on all sides.

May I compliment the majority of the commentators of this thread of responses to the first entry by Duqu. The research many of you have shown in your posts is remarkable and convincing.

My earliest reaction to the problems in the Middle East was neutral. But I began to focus my attention over there with more concentration.

My original attitude began with Obama's sending bombers to Libya March, 2011, interfering with Libya's internal fights against Qaddafi. I felt it was none of our business and the action, I found, was also prohibited by our Constitution... initiating an attack and engaging in hot warfare having nothing to do with us.

I'm no longer neutral. When the Hamas terrorists began sending bombs and rockets into the Israel's peaceful homeland I took a detailed look for many months especially reviewing the history recorded, and I took sides. The Hebrews/Jews/Israelis (all the same people through history) have occupied the Eastern border land of the Mediterranean Sea for over 5,000 years according to most accounts, many by Muslim scholars.

The attacks now against Israel by the Gaza Strippers (as I call the Hamas-dominated land) are unconscionable. Worse, after Israel's kindness to them by allocating a coastal section of the Strip which was the legitimate part of Israel's own country, instead of a civilized "thank you," Hamas elected to terrorize their benefactor.

Israel had allowed them self-rule; Israel kept their promises of the Oslo Accords discussed in the 1990s whereas the Strippers didn't keep their promises for a hot minute...

I decided these savages were simply too primitive to understand anything but their own illogical behavior.

It is a pity that the ignorant Hillary bounced over there and is taking credit for the neutrality "she" accomplished. In her dreams. A good look at the immediate history would prove that Hamas won't keep their end of the cease-fire for long. Hillary only gave them time to improve their weapons.

Their libelous and malicious assertions will begin again, while they resume their attacks on Israel. I wonder what Hillary will do then? Put on a metal helmet and pout?

It's a shame you have no idea about the War Powers Act. Yes, what Obama did IS constitutional. And, he committed no combat troops. He WAS, also, fulfilling a requirement of NATO. So, sightless, you missed.

Here we have two groups of people shooting rockets at each other and they manage to agree to a cease fire, while our elected representatives in Washington can't seem to agree on sh!t. "......and I say to myself, what a wonderful world, oh yeah."

Meshaal also thanked Egypt for helping mediate the Gaza ceasefire and praised Iran for providing Gazans with financing and arms.

Did I just see this in writing...IRAN is helping the Gazan's with financing and ARMS and nobody is saying anything. Why can't IRAN help out with financial aide to help the people with food, medicine, rebuilding, you know, "common sense things!" Why are they giving them weapons. This is so twisted! IRAN is being praised...seriously?

Freethinker, first of all, the fat, old, wrinkled cow Hillary Rockhead Clinton did NOTHING but delay the ceasefire going into effect by dragging her ragged backside there 24 hours AFTER both sides were ready to stop shooting. After that, all she did was waltz in and try to take credit for others' work, just like the book she said she wrote. And the word you were trying to use was "you're" NOT "your".

Roadkill.... I think you should research the War Powers Act of 1941, which was, of course, a prelude to our engagement in World War II.

In 1973, Congress dealt with the Act to clarify it and it is a Federal law called the War Powers Resolution. And that Resolution provides that ...

Powers Resolution of 1973 (50 U.S.C.1541-1548)^[1] is a federal law intended to check the President's power to commit the United States to an armed conflict without the consent of Congress.

Yet, that is exactly what President Obama did by sending 5 bombers to Libya's internal rebellion which, btw, were not just against Qaddafi but against each other. And on that March 21st, 2011, we DID have a casualty, killing our pilots and their support staff when one of the five planes was shot down.

Further, myriad citizens not involved with the internal "civil wars" were also killed.

Obama never asked Congress for ratification (i.e., to you "consent") until after the WAR we got into there had lasted over two months WITH OUR PARTICIPATION and ended. Five months later he made the request for ratification he should have requested in the first place, and Congress turned him down.

So Roadkill... I think you might go back to killing more roads but be sure they have been abandoned first.

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Duku,

Don't you know that Israel would not exist today if it were not for terrorism by Jewish militants. Irgun and Lehi had roots back into the 1930's. Lehi sided with the Nazis against the British in WWll. All were pardoned in 1949 after indepandance was declaired. In 1980 two Lehi terrorists were given a state funeral and were honored on Israeli stamps. There was a military honor created for Lehi members. A former Lehi leader, Yitzhak Shamir, was elected Prime Minister of Israel (1983-84 and 1988-1992).

Do you now see where Palistinian terrorism comes from? They learned it from the Jews. They saw that terrorism could win nationhood.

Ed,

You should study up on your history. The Arabs in the area were given a chance to create a nation of Palestine and many of them rejected that opportunity. Instead, they decided to attack Israel with the help of Egypt, Syria and Jordan. It was more important for them to destroy Israel than it was to build their new nation.

Being Israeli means never having to say you are sorry.

Being Israeli means your best friend believes in fiendishly
promoting The Apocalypse with you in a tragic role.

Being Israeli means believing enough of the Bible to find permission to steal stuff, kill, and covet without guilt, but hardly ever troubling yourself with Temple.

Being Israeli means believing the Holocaust is a religion that gives you permission to ignore the suffering of others, steal their stuff, kill and covet without guilt.

Being Israeli means never learning of the role of zionists in treacherously shepherding, in full knowledge of their fate, hundreds of thousands of jews onto the trains of Auschwitz.

Being Israeli means never learning of Israel's role in protecting treacherous zionist co-perpetrators of the Holocaust, and never wanting to know.

Being Israeli means never having to say you are sorry.

Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!

Even you.

second sight....welcome to the fray!!

I don't know Shane, sounds rather arbitrary on your part, don't you think ? There may be some Native Americans with deep roots in Montana who might object to your plans about the relocation of a displaced, overseas population into their home state. Were you thinking what....somewhere near "The Little Big Horn" perhaps ?........LOL

Not even Montana, just give the hell they're fighting so hard to get to

Well, the "Palestinians" should just go back to their lands in Jordan and Syria where they came from and I guess everyone would be happy then. I wonder what's stopping them?

does anyone remember what the jordainians did to the palestinians back in the 70s? kicked them out of jordan and killed 40,000 of them.don't hear much about that do you?

because people are blind to the real history of the middle east. Most of them think there was actually a country called Palistine. Those so called palistinians are just mis-placed Arabs. But none of the Muslim countries will take them.

Giving them a piece of Germany for a homeland would have been a much better way. The Germans lost the war and they (not Palestinians) were the ones who perpetrated the Holocaust. BTW, the Holocaust killed not only 6 million Jews, but also 5 million non-Jews, but most people seem to forget the latter.

Kevin ===== did you ever go to school? Muslims were in league with the Germans in WW2. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was a big fan of the German murder of Jews ; he visited the Nazis on multiple occasions during the war and encouraged them.