Mexico seeks to pivot relationship with US as new president takes office

Jacquelyn Martin / AP

President Barack Obama shakes hands with Mexico's President-elect Enrique Pena Nieto prior to their meeting in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, Tuesday, Nov. 27, 2012.

Maria Camila Bernal, Telemundo

News analysis

Mexico's new president Enrique Peña Nieto is surely hoping his inauguration on Saturday will help his country turn a new page in the relationship with its huge northern neighbor.

After all, Mexico is dogged by a six-year drug war that has claimed about 60,000 lives, pervasive corruption and an image problem around the world. So Peña Nieto will want to emphasize what the violence and the negative headlines obscure: Mexico's growing economy, swelling middle class and deepening economic and social ties with the U.S.

A recent editorial by Peña Nieto, who is returning to power the PRI (Partido Revolucionario Institucional), the authoritarian party that ruled Mexico for more than 70 years, shed light on the new president's pivot.

"It is a mistake to limit our bilateral relationship to drugs and security concerns," he wrote in The Washington Post ahead of Tuesday's meeting with President Barack Obama. "Our mutual interests are too vast and complex to be restricted in this short-sighted way."

Peña Nieto hopes to reframe US-Mexico relations in meeting with Obama

Indeed, the fact that Peña Nieto was the first foreign leader to visit the White House since Obama's reelection highlights the importance both countries place on their ties.

"This is a longstanding tradition where … we meet early with the president-elect of Mexico because it symbolizes the extraordinary relationship between the two countries," Obama told reporters at a joint press conference.

De-emphasize drug war?
Peña Nieto's predecessor Felipe Calderon made the war on drugs his most important domestic issue, former Mexican foreign minister Jorge Castañeda told NBC Latino.

"What I think Peña Nieto wants to do is emphasize reducing violence and violent crime in Mexico -- kidnapping, extortion, homicide, holdups -- and not so much the drug trade," he said.

Latin America expert: US-Mexico relations to focus on trade, not drug war

While Mexico's new president has promised to expand the federal police by at least 35,000 in order to deal with crime, Peña Nieto and the PRI will have a brief period to show the United States and the world that they are truly tackling lawlessness and corruption.

"The honeymoon will end when the United States realizes that he will continue to allow corruption," Mexican economist Rogelio Ramirez de la O, who advised left-wing challenger in the presidential race, Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador.

But there is no denying that significant ties bind the two countries. Already, Mexico and the United States are part of NAFTA, the world's biggest trading bloc, with Canada.

Mexico's president wants to change country's name to the one 'we sing'

"Perhaps the most important issue is finding new ways to bolster our economic and trade relationship to attain common prosperity in our nations," Peña Nieto wrote in the Washington Post article.

Mexico markets itself as a manufacturing base for foreign companies, and already Coca-Cola, GM, DuPont and Nissan, among others, have operations in the country. Peña Nieto has also promised to open the country's sizable energy sector to private investment, although he has said that energy resources and the country's state-run oil company PEMEX will not be privatized.

The country's economy is also expected to continue growing faster than the United States. Mexico's GPD is projected to have grown by 3.9 percent in 2012, compared to 2.1 percent in the United States during the same period, according to the Economist Intelligence Unit.

Mexico's drug war is also part of a drug culture with roots in music, movies and even religion.

Immigration reform
Both presidents acknowledged another major issue facing both countries during Tuesday's meeting: immigration.

Despite constant bloodshed, Mexico is ignored during White House race

"I know (Peña Nieto is) interested in what we do as well on issues like comprehensive immigration reform," Obama said.

At an estimated 12 million, Mexicans are by far the largest immigrant group in the United States. And around 7 million, or 59 percent of undocumented immigrants, are thought to have come from Mexico.

While Obama decreed earlier this year that hundreds of thousands of undocumented migrants who went to the United States illegally as young children would be entitled to remain, the promise he made in 2008 to reform immigration has not been fulfilled. On the flip side of the migration coin are the estimated 1 million Americans living in Mexico, and the estimated 10 million who visit every year.

Read more on NBCLatino.com

Barbara Franco, executive director of The American Benevolent Society, a 140-year-old aid organization for Americans living in Mexico, acknowledged the many issues facing the new president, and said solutions did not lie only with Peña Nieto or the PRI alone.

"There is an economic concern, the need of transparency and the overall legal system in the application of law starting form traffic violation to everything else," said Franco. "But the problems are so huge that it's not about political party or a specific person, it's about a general attitude in solving these problems."

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If Mexico would allow the United States to assist in Military actions inside the borders of Mexico then maybe the Cartels would end and the citizens would get on with LIVING & PROSPERING. If Mexico was a better place to live then maybe fewer illegals would be crossing the borders.

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#1 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:41 AM EST

deweydan

If Mexico would allow the United States to assist in Military actions inside the borders of Mexico then maybe the Cartels would end and the citizens would get on with LIVING & PROSPERING. If Mexico was a better place to live then maybe fewer illegals would be crossing the borders.

If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

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#1.1 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:25 AM EST
wire557Deleted

He's come to take you home!

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#1.4 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:34 AM EST

Obama is thanking him for his re election. In 2016 we are going to have a Mexican President. Just think, a Mexican president in Mexico and a Mexican President in the U.S. We are F#@$%# for sure.

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#1.5 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:35 AM EST

Fewer crossing the border? Let's not forget the ones that come here can't get jobs in their own country. Mexico needs to build a better Educational System. Then maybe we won't be stuck with the stupid ones!

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#1.6 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:38 AM EST

@ Tarzan7

Your alternative is sending jobs to China and that's just a small part of his lacking! Come up with some one better in 2016 or you may see the same as you have now.

    #1.7 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:42 AM EST

    If Mexico were a better place to live then we could indoctrinate our lowlifes/criminals on how to illegally enter their country, tap into resources and overburden their system.

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    #1.8 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:44 AM EST

    How about Mexico start by paying us all of the billions they owe us!!!!

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    #1.9 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:05 AM EST

    If Mexico was a better place to live then maybe fewer illegals would be crossing the borders.

    Oh, good grief!!

    You people who keep saying that need to get off that kick and face the reality. Mexicans who run the government and hold the wealth LIKE things the way they are.

    The damn government SENDS the peons to our country to work and take OUR money to send back to Mexico to run THEIR country and feather THEIR nests.

    Do you not ever read the stats on Mexico? Over $4 BILLION per QUARTER from the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA arrives in Mexico from the Mexicans who work here annually, Mexico's second largest income, following behind their oil as their largest revenue source.

    And you think they want to change that? You think a country that has had a patron/peon, master/slave society since the days of the Aztecs wants to change it? To educate the people and turn them into citizens like the Americans with the guts to call them on their corruption, to demand any type of accountability, to form agencies like the ACLU?

    NONE, not ONE of the third world countries we give billions of dollars to want to change the status quo of their illiterate starved people for the same reason.... they LIKE things the way they are because they can't rule them any other way.

    And if our own government could go back two hundred years unravel the steps that have educated us to harrass them the way we do..... they would.

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    #1.10 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:49 AM EST

    Instead the current admin has found a way to rule some by playing the class/race/gender warfare getting people divided instead united. So we're no different as long as this current disgrace of administration keeps feeding the envy and hatred. I guess if you have no leadership skills it's all you got to play with. Luckily some of us are educated and can see through this pathetic attempt at RULING the masses under your thumb.

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    #1.11 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:20 PM EST

    You could not have put it any better screminmimi Unfortunately that's the plain truth. And most unfortunately is that the poor Mexicans take this a the norm, they think that being poor is normal and all they aspire is to be able to go to "El Norte" like they call it and continue the same pattern.

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    #1.12 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:09 PM EST

    If you want to cut out all the murders and crap in Mexico? Then get rid of the stupid drug laws in this country. Prohibition has never worked except for the power elite as a means to siphon off money and power from the public.

      #1.13 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:43 PM EST

      You guys, especially screminmimi, obviously have a very narrow vision of Mexico. This Country is one of our best ally in Latin America and has make strong steps in our interest. The war on drugs, which we have failed so miserably in many fronts (american banks laundering most of the cartels money, reducing consumption here, going after American cartels, etc) Mexico has tackle the problem with their short resources. We do not give any cash to Mexico, any. Our contribution is in training forces and a helicopter. So we do not give billions to Mexico, we havent done it for a long time. This article was in bloomberg today, and gives yoiu a better idea of the actual conditions and improvement Mexico has done in the recent years: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-30/pimco-leads-bullish-investors-backing-pena-nieto-mexico-credit.html I get to travel to Mexico often for business, and see another picture of what some news here present to us.

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      #1.14 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:57 PM EST

      What a bunch of ignorant haters!

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      #1.15 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:05 PM EST

      Maybe this guy can provide an incentive for Mexicans to stay in Mexico and help their economy grow. I was in Mexico (and married to a Mexican a long time ago) and was told that there were only two classes; the very rich and the very poor. Now, this article states there is a middle class. That would indeed be progress.

      However, I will say that the primary reason my Mexican ex-husband was in the US was to make money so he could build, and then sell, houses in Mexico. Was he in the US legally? Oh yes, he was. I saw his green card many times. He did not want to live in the US, but did want to live in Mexico like a king. I suspect that there are many others here in the US just like him.

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      #1.16 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:24 PM EST

      I wonder if there are any Muslims in Mexico??

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      #1.17 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:43 PM EST

      rafael Toscano: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1393960/US-gives-billions-foreign-aid-worlds-richest-countries-asks-borrow-back.html

      This article tells us that in 2010, the U.S. GAVE Mexico $316.7 BILLION in foreign aid, NOT counting the $21.27 BILLION sent as remittances by the Mexican people live her both legally and illegally.

      Since most of the illegal aliens from Mexico don't contribute to U.S. income taxes, I would like to see a 50% or higher tax placed on ANY remittances faxed or sent out of this country, UNLESS you are an established business with a tax ID.

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      #1.18 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:08 PM EST

      OK there's a new guy coming in to play the same game that has been going on for ages but if the US would just grow a pair and put Mexico where it belongs it could be a better situation for everyone concerned.

      The US continues to "Give" money to Mexico for all there programs or whatever and what or how does any of that affect the people of the US in a good way?
      Mexico has Oil wells all over producing a huge income for the country and yet the US is giving this country our tax money for there won use, wow what a system I tell ya.

      Why can't Mexico just take care of there own fricken people with the money it makes from Oil sales and all the other business's that have built there and provide good jobs for the people of Mexico.

      I am sick and tired of there people coming into America "Illegally", all they are doing is taking, taking, taking, taking and giving nothing back to the US because they could care less about the US people and when our own government does the same thing by "giving our tax dollars" to this corrupt country I can see why the Mexican people see it as OK.

      I don't have the answers but what I see and read in the news and from talking with people from both countries is that it isn't going to ever get any better for the US because our government isn't doing what it should and that's taking care of the USA first and its people and then possibly looking at what we can do to help others that can help themselves but need a little help, Mexico isn't one of those countries, never was and never will be.

      Corruption isn't just something mexico is good at, our own government seems be good at it as well. If both governments would prove to its people what they are really doing to help there own people I would be shocked because its all c rap.

      I hate politics, always will, Its not only Mexico either, way to much of our tax dollars are going away from where they are needed, right here at home.

      This new Mexican leader is just another magician that will pull the wool over everyone's eyes and wa la, a rabbit comes out of the hat and everyone thinks its so cool...

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      #1.19 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:15 PM EST

      Mexico is exporting its unemployment and they make billions/year from cash remittances as screminmimi pointed out.

      The downside is that if the US doesn't play ball, Mexico collapses...no politician on either side wants Mexico to go into a revolution...because that's where they're headed (probably an inevitability).

      Rampant corruption, super-strong cartels, poor prospects for most of its population, but lots of precious resources.

      The US constantly makes the same mistakes again and again by supporting corrupt lunatics and inept governments for short-term payoffs. But short-term is typically the only distance a politician ever needs to plan for, and none want to make the unpopular decisions.

      Frankly, Mexico needs a revolution...but I doubt that they would come out of it better than when they went into it. But that's because their people are just as much dependent on their corrupt system as they are aggravated by it.

      There's no easy decision

      I say we could do a lot to fix Mexico by first fixing our crumbling system.

      1. End prohibition on drugs...it didn't work with alcohol, why keep wasting money and vast resources enforcing this losing battle when these could be billion-$ industries like Tobacco and Coffee.
      2. Enforce our laws on employment and require e-verify (or equivalent). Go after employers who violate this...pierce the corporate veil and take criminal action against the hiring managers of the more egregious offenders.
      3. Allow a path to citizenship for the "Dreamers" but they cannot sponsor anyone else for visa/citizenship status until they pay a large fine
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      #1.20 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:36 PM EST

      Since NAFTA was signed by Clinton our trade balance with Mexico went SOUTH. In the last ten years the trade balance went from even to $600 billion dollars in favor of Mexico. Tell me exactly how that free trade agreement benefited the workers in the U.S.

      Mexican trucks with Mexican drivers can drive into the U.S. anywhere. Recently Mexico filed a grievance that the U.S. was exporting to Mexico cheap chicken. BAM the United States buckled under and the price of chicken and eggs in Mexico exploded!

      Food costs are way up!

      Corruption is and always will be endemic in Mexico. Americans are targets in Mexico.

      The Mexican president all but shouted from the rooftops that he will not pursue the drug smugglers in Mexico. You know why? He and his cohorts want bribes to leave the drug gangs go about their business without interference from the government. You can plant yourself on the three main highways going up to the U.S. and count the large trucks escorted by police. Each one of them pays a bribe to the local officials for the escorts.

      Every Mexican president has raped the country especially in the last year that they have been in power. That year is known in Mexico as the AÑO DE HIDALGO! Get all you can while you still have the power to get away with it.

      The new president puts his people in to funnel the money up to him just like a gigantic pyramid scheme.

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      #1.21 - Sat Dec 1, 2012 2:18 AM EST
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      Like or not Mexico is a neighbor and getting along with them is the best thing for both countries. Sure everyone would like their country to be a better place to live, but sad truth is, not all countries like the US have the resources and will to make it so. We cannot treat Mexico or Canada like second class countries while we live the suburbs. And its police and federal law enforcement is what will make a difference down there, not the 82nd Airborne. I hope things go good between th two countries.

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      Reply#2 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:58 AM EST

      Roger, go live in a border town(US side even) for a week and then get back to us once you've been throttled with reality.

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      #2.1 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:46 AM EST

      Don't even put Canada in the same boat with Mexico. Most Canadian's are better off than a lot of American's. Unlike Mexican's they will at least set a standard of living and I have never met any that would stand on the side of the road holding out their hand. I doubt you would find one in our Welfare Offices unlike Mexican's? If you want to see for yourself go spend a few hours at your local Welfare Office. I doubt you need to spend anymore time than it takes to walk through the door.

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      #2.2 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:54 AM EST

      It's not that Mexico doesn't have the resources Roger from Augusta what Mexico lacks is the leadership of honest officials. The vast majority is corrupt and they top 3% keep the money for themselves. If you don't believe me ask Carlos Slim and tell me do you think Carlos Slims would have done his fortune here in the US? And do you think Bill Gates would've done the same in Mexico? That's the difference...

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      #2.3 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:03 PM EST

      Confussed-

      How many mexicans have you ever really seen standing on the side of a road holding out their hand? Seriously? how many? I would venture to guess that you have not seen many. I have lived in California, Arizona, and Colorado. I can count on one hand how many Mexicans I have seen holding out their hand on the side of a road. It is a rare, rare sight. They might stand out in front of a Home Depot, but that is something else entirely. They are asking to work, not asking for free money.

        #2.4 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:13 PM EST

        The men might stand in front of Home Depot; their women pop out "anchor" babies and run for the welfare office. Yes, that is crude, but living in New Mexico, it's entirely true. When you have a state government that refuses to even ask for your citizenship status, the people line up to take advantage of what they can get (steal) from the legal citizens of this country.

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        #2.5 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:11 PM EST

        Human-

        Go to any welfare office, in those states and see where illegals are with their hands out, shoved in OUR pockets and sucking off the American Taxpayers dollars. If you haven't seen it, are you blind?

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        #2.6 - Sat Dec 1, 2012 1:01 AM EST

        Roger from Augusta You really have no idea how Mexico works. Live there a few years and find out. Mexico now charges people who drive into Mexico. The new highway system that was supposed to be built with the proceeds from the oil is extremely expensive. From Arizona to Tepic, Nayarit it costs over $200 U.S. in tolls. Bank accounts in dollars have been done away with. The American government has put more than half the county on the watch list and advised Americans not to travel to or through those areas. Food and rents are more expensive than the same items in the U.S.

        Mexicans still view Americans as invaders, still see a bull's eye on every American's back. The judicial and police system are corrupt and Americans can not find help from the police or justice from the Mexican judicial system.

        I am glad to be back in the states and know the freedoms that were denied me in Mexico.

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        #2.7 - Sat Dec 1, 2012 2:33 AM EST
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        Doesn't want to focus on the drug trade? I suppose the cartels are ok with that.Is the new guy in someones pocket already?

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        Reply#3 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:00 AM EST

        Hey, Nieto has a good idea. Leave the cartels alone and maybe they'll stop killing people. Just like open borders would solve the problem of illegal immigration.

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        #3.1 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:28 AM EST

        This is what the drug cartel does to Mexican politicians who oppose them:

        (Warning: graphic pictures)

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2238577/Maria-Santos-Gorrostieta-executed-surviving-assassination-attempts.html

        Now do you know why drugs weren't mentioned?

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        #3.2 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:22 AM EST
        wire557Deleted

        Drug Cartels could care less what the government does or thinks. You either sell drugs for you local dealer or you will die! If you're going to the United States you take in drugs or you will die! If you want to keep your family safe while you're living in America you need to send us money or they will die! If you want to work or have a business in Mexico you either give us money or you will die! The government in Mexico has no say on what happens and we (American's) can keep sending money to Mexico so the President can live in a nice home and pay off his local cartel or he will die! It's true without our money there will be more violence in Mexico, it's how the cartels thrive.

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        #3.4 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:05 AM EST

        @hs321-

        When MSNBC ran that story a couple of days ago about the young beauty queen who was killed with the drug guys, my post was a question about why the story of Maria had not been featured on this site as well.

        As mayor, she survived two attempts on her life, and after she left office and her protection detail was withdrawn, she was finally kidnapped and murdered while taking her young daughter to school.

        Courageous to the last, she begged them not to harm her daughter and calmly surrendered and walked to their vehicle to save her child. Her body was found dumped on the side of the road.

        Her story should have run beside that of the foolish beauty queen to show that Mexico still has people of courage and heart... the "right stuff." She was worth a thousand Calderons, who will likely follow Fox, and tuck his tail and run for our border and hide with a security detail in the country he did nothing but belittle and scorn even as he sent his own countrymen and women and children, sometimes to their death, here to work so he could line his pockets, while he held out his hands for our cash.

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        #3.5 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:04 AM EST
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        The honeymoon will end when the United States realizes that he will continue to allow corruption,"

        I don't drink tequila because when i do i wake up with a Mexican and wonder what happened.

        .......same thing........

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        Reply#4 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:40 AM EST

        "I know (Peña Nieto is) interested in what we do as well on issues like comprehensive immigration reform," Obama said.

        Its called amnesty folks.

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        Reply#5 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:44 AM EST

        Hi, Scooter.

        Yep. "Comprehensive." The most overused word in this administration.

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        #5.1 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:06 AM EST

        "Comprehensive reform" for our current administration would be accomplished if they could agree about what time of day it is.

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        #5.2 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:24 PM EST
        Reply

        What an absolutely pitiful waste ..pena and barry....all that free manure and not a farm field to spread it on....

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        Reply#6 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:53 AM EST

        scooter--love your posts.

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        #6.1 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:45 AM EST
        Reply

        Strange the vote in Colorado and Washington on the legalization of Marijuana wasn't mentioned. It seems there's more than a chance these events will inform Mexico's drug and economic policy.

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        Reply#7 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:54 AM EST

        I would tend to bet that most of the million Americans living in Mexico are documented and took their millions with them, whereas millions of Mexicans have come to the US for welfare. This is not a tit-for-tat.

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        Reply#8 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:01 AM EST

        john-737278

        That's true, but you forgot to say that the US Citizen that go to Mexico, they go to retire, as for the Mexicans that come here they come to work, and not for the welfare like you say, but to take on the jobs that are to denigrant for you, or the poorest of the US Citizens, or tell me do you see anybody picking up berries on the fields? or washing the dishes at the restaurants? or cleaning the bathroms at the mantions of the rich?

          #8.1 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:50 PM EST

          Or finishing concrete like I do? Give me a break. How many anchor babies are born here? How much does an education cost? How much does medical treatment cost? While you are correct that most Americans feel too entitled to take those jobs, these things are welfare.

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          #8.2 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:41 PM EST
          Reply

          "... the authoritarian party that ruled Mexico for more than 70 years..."

          Isn't this political party the one who was "in bed" with the cartels? Wasn't this party allowing the cartels to operate almost without worry of police intervention?

          Yes sir, this is exactly the political alliance we need. It will be great for business unfortuantely it's the drug business. But business is business.

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          Reply#9 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:16 AM EST

          Yeap Richard-3165941 This is the same Party, unfortunately whoever wrote this article forgot to mention that. And not just the cartels but even the Television networks are in it. They appointed this stupid guy that has not even read a book in his life so they can manipulate him at will. Don't believe me but check for yourself, The Nicaraguan goverment just capture a few Televisa News Vans with more than 9 million dollars in cash, but of course they are denying they belong to them... And the Mexican goverment is telling Nicaragua to forget about it... The goverment of Mexico even tells Telemundo and Univision who they can hire and who don't, what to say and what not to...

            #9.1 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:44 PM EST

            Rafael,

            Pretty sad state of affairs for Mexico and how the rest of the world is going to view them.

              #9.2 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:41 PM EST
              Reply

              Mexicans come to America looking for a job and end up with fat welfare checks,kids in over run schools and part of basket of entitlements to provide them with everything from housing,food to loaning their kids toys.Americas in Mexico bring money,are limited where and how they invest theri money,never able to recieve any help from the Federal government,can't even go to a Mexican Hospital unless you can pay up from.No national insurance program that will pay for all you trips to doctors and hospitals for all family members and a law enforcement group who makes life fairly misarble for you.Not a bad exchange.If you like Mexican food,are able to learn a foreign language and don't mind living away from the ocean in marginal housing,Meico is ofr you.

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              Reply#10 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:25 AM EST

              What are you talking about? I read your ramble and you make very little sense.

                #10.1 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:29 AM EST

                mas098 is talking about the difference between Americans going to Mexico LEGALLY and what they go through vs Mexicans coming to the US ILLEGALLY and what they get FREE for breaking the law. Not too hard to comprehend, even for a 5th grader.

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                #10.2 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:25 PM EST

                maso98,

                You should change your name to Menso100% it will suite you better. You have to do some research before you start writing stupid sh@!$%#.

                As for Dotties girl Can't you tell that whatever maso98 is saying is just bull...? You have to experience it for yourself being an Us Citizen living in Mexico before saying all those stupidities. You have no idea of how US Citizens are treated there...

                  #10.3 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:31 PM EST

                  @Dotties girl: Basically what Rafael Toscano said. People are just blabbering stuff that they have no idea about.

                    #10.4 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:31 PM EST
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                    "Our mutual interests are too vast and complex to be restricted in this short-sighted way."

                    Peña Nieto hopes to reframe US-Mexico relations in meeting with Obama the importance both countries place on their ties.

                    De-emphasize drug war? Peña Nieto's predecessor Felipe Calderon made the war on drugs his most important domestic issue, former Mexican foreign minister Jorge Castañeda told NBC Latino. "What I think Peña Nieto wants to do is emphasize reducing violence and violent crime in Mexico -- kidnapping, extortion, homicide, holdups -- and not so much the drug trade," he said.

                    -----------------------------------------------------------

                    All of the above statements are focused on reducing the emphasis of cartels and their operation, especially the last one. Of course we want a better relationship with America but if this is to happen we must not make cartels our main topic. Sounds good to me mr. mexican president.

                      Reply#11 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:29 AM EST

                      It's funny how people have opinions about a country that they've never visited or bothered to learn about.

                      Like it or not, we have to get along with Mexico. It is in our own best interest. Mexico is one of the fastest growing economies in the world and it is expected to outpace Brazil in growth next year. They have a middle class that is exploding in size and have money to buy things like iPhones and such. Their new generation of workers are tech savvy and are looking for the same lifestyle as many of us here in the US enjoy. Why wouldn't we want to have a closer relationship with them? They could become our biggest customer.

                      For those that base their opinion on an entire nation on a few border towns, you guys are looking at a very small part of the country that does not reflect the rest. It's like basing your entire opinion of the US on what is happening in Detroit. It's not a fair assessment.

                      And one more thing. Undocumented citizens pay more in taxes than the take in government services. Do you know who are the biggest moochers in the US? Poor caucasian people in the south. So, if you want to get on someone's case for being a moocher, blame all the white people for not getting off their ass and working.

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                      Reply#12 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:25 AM EST

                      Their economy is growing at our expense thanks to NAFTA.

                      • 4 votes
                      #12.1 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:47 AM EST

                      They are here ILLEGALLY, I know "undocumented" is PC but I'd prefer using the truth that's the way I was raised. So you can put whatever spin on anything you like but some of us live in the real world. As far as poor "caucasians" in the south....maybe you haven't lived in the south. By the way you want to spot me a reference on your claims? Oh never mind I found it. http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/ Whites: 38.8 Blacks 39.8 46.7 BILLION (total) on food stamps. Wow how proud this administration, cronies, and robots that voted for them must be.

                      • 1 vote
                      #12.2 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:29 PM EST

                      Dotties Girl,

                      Before you bring out your welfare statics, you need to understand the difference between population percentages by race and the population of welfare recipients by race. However, math and logic might be beyond your brain capacity...your 'spin' is a mouth full of BS.

                        #12.3 - Sat Dec 1, 2012 1:07 AM EST
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                        Mexico's incoming president can start by helping us secure the borders.They really need to secure their own borders and their ports due to the drug running done by boats that end up on the beaches of California.The so called flip side of immigration is that the Americans living in Mexico are retirees that are not on the Mexican governments dole.Oh that's right,Mexico has no welfare system.

                        • 3 votes
                        Reply#13 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:40 AM EST

                        If they do that then how are you going to get your drugs? just a thought.

                          #13.1 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:23 PM EST
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                          It's hard to imagine that the new guy could be worse than Calderone, who was really a waste of time when it came to the relationship between the two countries.

                          However, if he starts on the 'rights' of Mexicans that enter the U.S. illegally, he goes to the same dustbin as Calderone.

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#14 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:09 AM EST

                          He wants a new start? Then, he can hire a fleet of trucks, busses, whatever, and bring all his citizens, WHO HAVE ENTERED OUR COUNTRY ILLEGALLY, back to Mexico.

                          That goes for all the other countries who have citizens here WHO HAVE ENTERED ILLEGALLY!!

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#15 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:25 AM EST

                          When the new guy brings buses to the border to accept his people who sneaked across the border and take them back where they belong, and stops the rest of them from sneaking across and bringing drugs, then I will be willing to support our government's efforts to improve relations.

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                          Reply#16 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:32 AM EST

                          Mic-3856054

                          Who's going to bring you your treats then? 'cause i tell if Mexicans bring the drugs is because white trash people love it and they consume it by the tons. Otherwise tell me why El Chapo Gusman is even in the Forbes Magazine???

                            #16.1 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:21 PM EST

                            El Chapo Gusman is in Forbes because he's the biggest mobster in Mexico. And Americans would quickly realize they can get along fine without Mexican Illegals if given the chance. You people are a greater burden to America than benefit. The only reason the U.S. government let you guys keep coming in is because they want cheap labor. More corporate profits mean more tax dollars can be spent.

                              #16.2 - Sat Dec 1, 2012 8:48 AM EST
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                              123kingDeleted

                              Maria Camila Bernal, You forgot to mention that he bought the presidency, he was appointed by Telerisa (Televisa) and it's called "TelePresidente". Also you forgot to say that it was under the 70 years of PRI that Mexico saw their biggest emmigration ever seen in the history of, all thanks to the ineptitude of the PRI. They could not even provide a good education for its citizens and most of the people that migrated are uneducated and can't never get good jobs in the US or wherever it is they go/went. All they can aspire to is jobs as dishwashers, janitors or in the agricultural fields, jobs that not even the poor in the US want to do. That you should tell/mention in your article so your english speaking audience knows about.

                              Thanks

                                Reply#18 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:16 PM EST

                                Maria Camila Bernal, You forgot to mention that he bought the presidency, he was appointed by Telerisa (Televisa) and it's called "TelePresidente". Also you forgot to say that it was under the 70 years of PRI that Mexico saw their biggest emmigration ever seen in the history of, all thanks to the ineptitude of the PRI. They could not even provide a good education for its citizens and most of the people that migrated are uneducated and can't never get good jobs in the US or wherever it is they go/went. All they can aspire to is jobs as dishwashers, janitors or in the agricultural fields, jobs that not even the poor in the US want to do. That you should tell/mention in your article so your english speaking audience knows about.

                                Thanks

                                  Reply#19 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:22 PM EST

                                  They want a new start. Build a 50 ft fence and keep the people in Mexico. Kill all the drug dealer.

                                  Then they can work with their people to improve their lives in their own country and keep them there.

                                  There is no reason the American tax payer should be paying for all these families with anchor babies and illegals who have better medical care than the guy working 3 jobs to pay for his families medical.

                                  By the time they clean out the food shelves, get free care, work but don't pay taxes they have it better than most of us.

                                  Any U.S. company caught hiring and using illegals should be put out of business. They should have to pay taxes just like the honest guy down the street. AND his taxes would be lower if the guy up the street was paying his share.

                                    Reply#20 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:23 PM EST

                                    Miles of MetalStorm ADWS pointing south and Serin Gas pumped into the under ground tunnels.

                                    End of problems.

                                      Reply#21 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:47 PM EST

                                      The Mexican economy is actually starting to grow and their middle class is growing rapid. I think they will go back once things start to improve. But if they don't go back, who cares? There is nothing we can do about it so just get on with your life and create a better living for you and your family like they are trying to do.

                                        Reply#22 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:45 PM EST

                                        I wish him luck for the sake of both countries. Past Mexican leaders have also had the same optimism but have become corrupt and useless. But I wish him well.

                                          Reply#23 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:40 PM EST

                                          Dear Mexico President:

                                          Keep your people there.

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                                          Reply#24 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:17 PM EST

                                          What isn't told in the news story, is the discussion about how two of the american states have Legalized an ounze of pot, for recreational uses. Pena talked about country to country taxes on export/imports of marijuana. Obama was more defensive during the discussion, just not more than a "we'll see" attitude.

                                          As for the corruption...As long as the Mexican government, military and police turn a blind eye to the drug cartels in whole, then I really don't see any use in a new mexican president.

                                          One story from MSNBC.com had told of how far the mexican jails have come, how clean, how the guards are more in control, and how all the inmates from certain groups have been broken up and taken to other jails. What the story does not say is the number of prison breaks were orchestrated in the last two years in mexico, in the escape of over 580+ mexican drug traffikers, murderers and rapists.

                                          Some of those traffikers and murderers were arrested within the united states, and are being extradited to mexico. Personally, I say execute them.

                                            Reply#25 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:30 PM EST

                                            He can start by taking all the illegals back!!!!!

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                                            Reply#26 - Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:25 PM EST
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