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Subscribe to RSSPresident Obama made clear to Syrian President Bashar Assad and those under his command that "the world is watching" and the use of chemical weapons would be "totally unacceptable." If Syria does try to use those weapons, Obama added, there will be consequences. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.
President Barack Obama warned Syrian President Bashar Assad Monday that the use of chemical weapons by the regime would be "totally unacceptable."
"The world is watching," Obama said.
"The use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons there will be consequences and you will be held accountable," he added.
U.S. officials told NBC News that the Syrian regime had ordered Syria’s military chemical corp to “be prepared.” The officials stressed the directive was not an order to use chemical weapons and did not come from Assad directly, but that order and a considerable increase in activity around Syria’s chemical weapons sites have raised serious concerns.
Syrian state television reported that the Syrian Foreign Ministry denied the country had any plans to use chemical weapons, no matter the circumstances.
The U.S. officials say the fear is that Syrians are at least preparing to mix the precursor chemicals for sarin nerve gas that could be used in artillery shells – but acknowledged it’s not clear that process has begun.
Once the precursors are mixed, the sarin produced has a relatively short shelf life. In artillery shells, the precursors are packed separately inside the shells and “mixed” immediately before or shortly after the shells are fired.
Despite Obama’s warning that if Syria uses chemical weapons, “there will be consequences,” U.S. military forces have not been put on alert or given warning orders to prepare for any possible military action against Syria. According to a senior U.S. official, there are "plenty of assets in the region which could respond quickly.”
A dramatic report from northern Syria shows how rebels control much of the countryside but remain locked in deadly battle with government forces who have the fire power. Some displaced civilians have taken refuge in the ruins of one of the Dead Cities of Syria, the ancient city Serjilla, abandoned around 1600 AD. NBC's John Irvine reports.
Earlier, the State Department said the "use or proliferation of chemical weapons" in Syria is a red line for the United States and would result in the administration's taking "necessary steps or actions."
"We are concerned about any move that might signal that they are somehow ready to use those chemical weapons on their own people," spokesman Mark Toner said Monday, adding that the U.S. is concerned that Assad's increasingly beleaguered regime might seek to up the ante in the 20-month-old uprising.
When asked if the chemical weapon stockpiles are secure, Toner said the U.S. is monitoring them, but "it is hard to say, in Syria today, that any stockpile of weapons is secure."
The U.S. is talking to the rebels fighting against the Assad regime about how they should secure chemical weapons that may come into their possession, a senior State Department official said.
A senior U.S. defense official said Monday that U.S. and allied intelligence have detected Syrian movement of chemical weapons components in recent days.
White House press secretary Jay Carney said "the world is watching" Assad and said he'll be held accountable for his actions. Carney declined to say what U.S. contingency plans involved.
The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.
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Again?....we already "warned" them...pretty sure they heard the first time.
Isn't it a little late to take action after they actually use the chemical weapons? Shouldn't the "red line" be any preparation or movement of the stockpiles towards their use? Acting after they have already been used does nothing to save those that have been gassed, burned, poisoned, etc.. by their use. And given that they are already being moved, the time to act is already at hand. Surely, if Assad has any intention of using chemical weapons, Obama's threat to take unspecified action if they are used is not going to deter Assad. Remember when Hillary took the position that Assad was going to enact democratic reforms. Oops, another Obama/Clinton blunder.
So, as Obama is handing them a check for "foreign aid", he's warning them? Next thing you know, we are not only giving them money, but we are sending troops over there at our expense.
what part of mind your own bussiness...does obama not understand...all of it...his own country falling apart the guy ain't got a clue...
Has anyone read the whole article? "The officials stressed the directive was not an order to use chemical weapons and did not come from Assad directly, but that order and a considerable increase in activity around Syria’s chemical weapons sites have raised serious concerns." Caca de toro.
Government by plain bob:
If it does not fill my pockets, make me happy and healthy, go @!$%# yourself...
Government by Dummies
Yeah, Sam, that is even worse, Assad has no control over his WMD and lord knows what will happen with them. Hello NY, or Texas, California, Chicago, etc... after they fall into the hands of the Al Qaida group that killed 4 Americans in Libya or some of Hezbollah's friends.
In the meantime, Iran's nuke program marches forward, ever faster, to completion while Obama opposes the additional sanctions passed by Congress.
Sarin Gas. Coming to a subway near you.
"Play It Again Sam" ...... I know I've heard this tune before.....
Remember Iraq? ...WMD's? .... Sorry I'm tired of the deceit ... to take us into another conflict ...War ..
And do you believe that the rebels (Should the components fall in their hands) Wont use them in some way?
Let these people settle their own conflict, STAY THE HeLL OUT OF IT!
Just one point to make - for all of those who continue to make comments that Saddam did not have WMDs, where do you think Assad got most of his stockpile!!! Obama's warning is meaningless as he has given Assad the same warning before. I seriously doubt that Assad has any intentions of using chemical weapons. My guess would be that they are moving them to keep them from falling into the hands of the so-called rebels. Many of these rebel groups are nothing more than Islamic terrorists who want control of Syria for themselves. They are the real threat when it comes to these chemical weapons because they are definitely not above using them. That should be the real worry for the US and other western nations, the rebels getting their hands on these weapons, not that Assad would use them.
I'm sure they are quaking in their boots.
Those idiots who voted for Oblama deserve what they get. Unfortunately, those of us who exibited a little sense get him too.
Obama's plan for Syria: Support a takeover by the Muslim Brotherhood!
government of dummies.1.let the poor work for it...2.let corporate get all the gain from it...3.let the politicians spend more than all them can gain...
KingK, Your starting to sound like that looser McCain. and Romney. I am willing to bet that we know just what is going on over there with that Gas. I bet we have people right in the compound. And that Aid we are giving is going to help the Rebels. Un like Little Bush, President Obama uses his brain and lesions to he Generals. They have a handle on it. They also have a handle on Iran. You need to stop armchair QBing. Talking about things you know nothing about shows what a dumb ass you are.
Yes We have warned them already on deploying chemical weapons. We will not become directly involved as long as the war remains contained. We might not get involved even if it spills over into another country. We will have a forcefull response if chemical weapons are used on their own people, this is no bluff.
Obama does not bluff.What would happen would be strategic strikes on Assads headquarters. Like Hussein he would be driven underground, literally, if not killed in the intitial strikes.
Maybe Mr. Obama could test the skills of, and send, Ambassador Rice to Syria on a peace mission.
Yep, WARN Assad about using chemical weapons but turn your back on how weapons are sent into Syria for Assad's military.
Timie to WARN Russia and Iran.
Wait a minute....there are other MAJOR domestic issues Mr. Obama is facing. So, looks like it is time for another "on the road again" trip to get "public opinion" on how to run the United States government since "I can't get anything done sitting in D.C.". Yep, those "rebels" will take care of everything.
chuck-2111043......time for your meds and some quick refresher courses.
Ah, the rest of Saddam's WMD surface!
Why is it OK for Barry to threaten...AGAIN...and not for Bush to react?
King K, the democrats use crayons to draw their red lines...
problem solved, i'm sure ill sleep better tonight.
Chuck your entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine.At least mine is based in fact and study, not trash talk. So before you go off calling someone names I suggest you take a serious look at yourself. And BTW, when Bush was following what the military told him with the support of Congress (including our current SOS), was he a dumb ass or was he wise like your man Obama? Or are the wise people only the ones with (D) next to their name. BTW, please tell us all what those generals are telling Obama? Were you there or did they send you are transcript? And please tell us, other than sending V. Jarret over for a second round of useless chatter like Hillary spent over a year and a half doing in utter failure, what exactly is that handle we have on Iran? The handle cranking more and more centrifuges in Iran's fortified underground military installations? Or the one sticking out of your a ss.
The first warning was more about allowing proliferation of WMDs,more than actually using them on the rebels.
If other countries started attacking other countries for selling weapons to other countries the whole world would be at war. Of course this does not include nukes or WMDs, the ante is always upped when WMDs are involved.
Those of you who think these warnings hold no water are kidding themselves. Obama would have the total backing of congress for a military response if WMDs are used against civilians, it would be swift and effective.
Sam, apparently YOU didnt! Or is reading comprehension a problem for you?
A senior U.S. defense official said Monday that U.S. and allied intelligence have detected Syrian movement of chemical weapons components in recent days.
components = warheads and missiles to launch them
movement = to the areas/machines they will be launched/fired from
Assad will allow the use of chemical weapons, and after the fact state, it was extremists in the military, who were against the rebels, not me. I gave no such orders and will look into this terrible crime against my own people immediately! Sound familiar? So then what will Obama do? Try to threaten war. It is time, we need more military spending.
President Obama, you have already, by your lack of willingness to make firm commitments in foreign policy, shown America has no back bone to the world. Do you now expect anyone in the Middle East to take you seriously? Will you drag more American soldiers into a terrible mess by your lack of ability to understand how to negotiate with terrorists and those who really understand world power using violence to get there? Good luck wading into a conflict where someone is determined to hang onto power by slaughtering their own people. You aren't known for actually doing much on the world stage to stop injustices.
@ido;
This is about WMDs not conventional weaponry. Your only goal as usual is to digress and bash Obama more than to inform properly.
@plain bob;
I do not know what part of the country you live in,but most in my part of the U.S are fine. Our country is not falling apart, even at our worst we are the best. Never forget that as you rant from your warm home, with a full fridge, and no fear of WMDs being used on you.
Isolationism does not work, we tried that already.
I love it. When Clinton and Obama tell the world someone has WMDs...they're telling the truth, no questions asked, no proof required. That's why it was A-OK for Clinton to bomb Iraq in 1998 (Desert Fox), because when he, Madeline Albright, Sandy Berger all said Saddam had WMDs, it was the truth. When Bush and the UN said Iraq had WMDs in 2001, it was a lie.
Jax
Haven't you learned that anyone with the coveted (D) next to his or her name is to be believed without question and anyone that doesn't have a (D) next to their names has to be a liar, racist or both. Pretty simple, no thinking or actual facts required.
Regardless: This is gonna be funny. I can hear him now. Don't do it, do not attack our Embassy and kill innocent Americans. I am telling you don't do it. Did you hear me, I won't say it again.
Don't make those chemicals. OK now don't you use them, you hear me. Bro
Really? It's so interesting that you guys are geniuses that you can figure out that Saddam gave chemical weapons to Assad. Do you remember what Ms Rice said? Her quite famous quote was "before the smoking gun turns into a mushroom cloud." Chemical weapons do not cause "mushroom clouds", she, and the rest of the Bush Administration were talking about nuclear WMDs.
That's where the lies about yellow cake and enrichment tubes came from. Both were all about nuclear WMDs.
BOB, any civilians being bullied by there government is our business!!!!!!
What part of that do you not understand?????
Your statement is a BULLY statement and shows that you only care for self!!!!!
The rest of us are not evil like you.
It makes one wonder if you even care about your own children.
Nine times out of ten You Don't!!!!!!
The activity around the Chemical Weapon Stockpiles could be simply the Syrian Gov.. keeping them away from the Rebels (activist/terrorist). If I read correctly the U.S. is "discussing" with the Rebels (activist/terrorist) on how to secure the Chemical Weapon's. I'm sure O'Bama is fully aware they they already know how to use Chemical Weapons and the U.S. "advising the Islamics about these weapons is nothing more than Grandstanding by a U.S. President trying to deflect attention away from his continued complete failure as a U.S. President. A President that the World knows was elected because of his skin color, promises to Latino's and pay-offs to Organized Crime Groups called Unions in addition to those who sit on their backsides and want the tax payer to support them. PO'Bama has over 47% of the population dependent on Welfare.
@winddancer;
You guys are kidding yourselves. We have respect from most countries once again. Terrorism has been tamped down, Obama is taking out Taliban and Al qeada leaders faster than I can keep up with them. The ME is begging our help to free them from dictators, we delivered even if they make choices we do not agree with.
We are massing thousands of troops to deter Iran from a preemtive strike. Hell even Myanmar is thinking about the road to Democracy.lol Russia and China only flex now and again nothing new there. Obama is beefing up the already powerful forces in the Pacific and concentrating on Asia. Out of 21 countries only one wanted Romney to win, that one was Pakistan. The reason why was because they hoped ther would be achnge in the drone program, guesss what,Obama won so the Mullahs still need to hide.
Obama has approved many successfull covert missions you guys know nothing of. The world takes Obama seriously, and so does Assad, he knows he will be struck immediately following the use of any WMDs, no matter who is in office.
Obama has done a great job on foreign affairs, period.
Right! So Bush was lying about Iraq's "nuclear" WMDs in 2001, but Madeline Albright was telling the absolute truth about Iraq's "nuclear" WMDs in 1998.
Got ya.
What struck me was that it is somehow o.k. to kills scores of people with conventional methods, but not o.k. to kill them with gas. They are dead either way, but one way of killing is acceptable.
I do not get this.
Seriously, what would be the US reaction if gas was used? Does anybody really believe another war will be break out? how? Who will pay for that one? We just can't keep borrowing money to protect the world from itself.
Byron
Bush must have been relying on those same intelligence services that gave Obama and Rice their talking points post Benghazi. Obama relies on faulty intelligence and uses a cover story concocted by terrorist and that is excusable/good. Bush relies on faulty intelligence that is bad. Obama's failure results in dead Americans and no reprisal on our enemies. Bush kills a brutal dictator that gassed the Kurds, attacked Kuwait, threatened to shut down world oil supplies, and regularly murdered and tortured his own people and that is bad. Brilliant!
Reminds me of Bugs Bunny telling Yosemite San to step over this line and this line and this line. Obama to Syria, oooh I going to give you such a pinch. LOL, at what point does Obama realize no one is listening in Syria. I guess he did not learn a thing from Libya
Exactly. And when those bad things happen, Obama will blame either a You Tube video for it or someone else he can throw under the bus, and then blame his political opposition for "politicizing" it...because, as everyone well knows, blaming a You Tube video has nothing to do with politics, of course.
And the minute Obama blames a You Tube video, NBC"News," CNN, et al, will insist it was solely because of the You Tube video until they grow a brain and realize it was a terrorist attack...at which point you won't hear anything about it again....until Obama blames it on the Republicans...at which point NBC"News", CNN, et al, will print headline after headline about it being the Republicans' fault.
Listen up bad guys...if you don't cut the crap right now, President Obama is going to borrow the money needed to kick your a$$. Then you're going to be in trouble...
I remember after 4 Americans were brutally murdered in our Libyan Embassy.... Obama said we wouldn't rest until the killers were found! But the resulting scandal spoke more of the truth than he did! For Obama to warn Syria about doing anything at this point is merely rhetoric....and has no effect on anyone... especially the Syrian Government!
Yes, and maybe some of the commenters are getting a little smarter (ha ha ha ha). At least I haven't seen the comment yet, "Well just go drop an "A bomb" (or an N bomb or an H bomb) on them; or what the h*** just bomb the h*** out of them. That would be pretty stupid after a serious chemical agents attack; wouldn't it KingK(?)!
Yes, KingK(?) you sound like you think you are pretty smart, more so than most of these other miserable... How old are you KingK. What is your experience with chemical warfare. Your opening comment didn't sound so intelligent.
And JS you started off sounding like you understood something but after a couple of sentences any understanding flew out the window. (I don't say that lightly to you because you sound level headed most of the time.)
Yup, terrorism has just completely gone away with Obama as president. Just makes Benghazi a little tough to explain, I guess.
Yup, the ME loves it when we bomb for them, even if it's without Congressional approval. Libya sure had an interesting way of thanking us for it, too. (oops, that pesky Benghazi thing, again)
"earthpig" Where is President Obama going to borrow the money from?
Want a real laugh. Go to 1.30 above coral taxie. Wow, she is way out there. Maybe obama needs another peace prize for nothing. Sounds like he is her Daddy.
WASHINGTON -
No not really, and terrorism will never be completely extinguished, not in our lifetime anyway. I said tamped down, not gone for good.
Rice was giving the press what she was supposed to as to not put the players in the Bhengazi attacks on the run. They stayed put, and were caught and thrown out of their headquarters. Petreaus backed this up, General Ham,and Dempsey and the SOD advised not to send troops in that night.
Do you as preident go against the advice of two regional generals and your SOD? I think not. To blame Obama for these deaths is ignorant at best. I challenge any of you to show in his own words wwhere Obama directly blames the film on the attacks, you will not because it is not true. Look atb both the rose garden speech,no mention of a film at all, look at the speech at the U.N on Bhengazi you will not find one partb where he blames the film on the attacks.
The only thing he says close to it is that the video caused great chaos in the ME and that is no lie.All of you spewing this vitriol will not prove me wrong,nor back up your rants against my president.
From the same place he got the last $5 trillion?
Now... some Liberal out there, need your help understanding... how is THIS Bush's fault? I knwo ther eis a spin. Or, are you guys planning on blaming the GOP half of Congress for any actions that lead to war?
Not bad enough that most of the liberal media is chocking on crow over the SS Office bombing in Arizona.
I could not be more proud of our Commander in Chief. Is it just me, or is President Obama acting more and more like President Kennedy? Doesn't he instill that same wonderful feeling in your heart that JFK did? Don't you feel like our country is getting back to the basics, where we care about everyone, as it should be? Watch this situation closely. President Obama will do EVERYTHING he can to avert another war. That's what Democrats believe is right. Fight with words first. Blood should be the LAST thing.
Syria is laughing at Obama. Syria knows Obama did nothing about Benghazi. Terrorists in Benghazi got what they wanted, to kill Americans and the terrorists are still free.
Today, Syria has WMDs from Iraq. Remember Iraq and Saddam Hussein? I remember when Colin Powell and C. Rice (the smart Rice) gave a warning that WMDs were being moved to Syria.
WHAT? Whoever made this comment hasn't been reading the news for the last 4 years... especially the last 2 months. Susan Rice, Libya, Embassy, Terrorism, Ambassador... these are some key words that speak volumns about BO's foreign policy decisions... they stink! God help us if another Israeli/Iranian/Middle East crisis pops up... barry will probably go on the campaign tour again.... lol!
@earl;
What are you laughing about, you can not deny anything I say. You as others speak but say nothing to back yourselves up. I have proven my point about Obama and foreign affairs with facts and successes, you guys do nothing but insult me and get voted up for it. Please tell me why you feel Obama has done a poor job on foreign affairs,just give one example, do not beat the dead horse of Bhengazi please use something else.
@steve;
Read 1;42
Is this all you guys have,lolthis event was not Obamas nor Rices fault. Please tell me exactly how this was their fault, you guys are just full of blanket statements with no backbone.
Extra security was granted two times in 2012 as late as May. They were told not to ask a third time, they did anyway and I do not blame them, but you can not blame Rice nor Obama for these tragic events.
Jo Ann...your so full of BS its not even funny. I was in the military at the time of the Iraq invasion. Powell and Rice gave talking points cherry picked by Cheney and Company. They were nothing more than a dog and pony show. For those of us who had skin in the game back in 2003, we found NOTHING. But you can continue to believe your fairy-tales that the Bush "legacy" team puts our through parrots like FAUX NEWS. The fact is the neo-cons had plans to invade Iraq (look up The New American Century and read it with your own eyes....) going back years before Bush got into office. 9/11 became a pre-text, a welcome springboard, to invade Iraq which they KNEW had nothing to do with bin Laden, 9/11, etc. So go blow your Karl Rove propaganda BS somewhere else...you bore me!
Now who will have the nerve to come back and show me where Obama blames the film on these attacks. none of you!
When you are a sherriff investigating an open murder case you do not show your cards. I stated this is why Rice was aying wat she was saying long before Petreaus backed me up on it.
Now is this lying or keeping the perps from going on the run?
All of you voting up these post saying what I am saying is wrong about Obama can not prove it, so keep living in your fantasy worlds of Obama bashing, so hide behind your little vote up for those that can not back themselves up.
gosh Coral Taxi, what have you been taking? Please review your comments and offer your supporting argument! Obama could never be a Sheriff in my town... unfortunately he's just the President, yikes!
Obama warning a "Mussie". I'm quite sure his knee are knocking and he's about ready to pee in his turban.
@Coral Taxi, Israel, Palestine, Iran, nuclear weapons, sanctions, and as the cherry top Morsi. You only have to read the news of last week to show the failure he is in that regard.
May I then take a guess that you are one who ranted about Bush taking us into two wars and called him an idiot for it? Rightly so, perhaps, but should Obama decide to take similar action in Syria, what would you say then? We are helping the rebels, those poor oppressed rebels? We're disarming a regime? We're freeing a nation? Chirp, chirp.
If we were to assume for a second that Obama actually knows what he is doing, then the only logical conclusion to draw from this "Arab Spring" is that he wants to foster a breeding ground for additional Islamic extremists. To what purpose, I can't definitively say. If it's not Obama pulling the strings, then the end result is still the same but with only one sure outcome: WW3.
@seldom;
gosh Coral Taxi, what have you been taking?
The truth.
I am tired of the Obama bashers wrongly bashing my president! I back up everything I say you as others refute nothing!
@perfect;
Israel; Secretly supplied bunker busters to take care of Irans nuke facilities.Massing thousands of troops off AQAP to deter Iran from a preemtive strike on Israel, or for our own preemptive strike.
Palestine; Has spoken out against the settlements that are ongoing.
nuclear weapons; ? what is your point?
sanctions;? What are you talking about,I need more than just a word sir.lol
Morsi; The Egyptians picked him not Obama, you are grasping at straws.
How is he a faliure? More blanket statements. You guys just bash and back nothing up.lol
Are you holding Obama accountable for Palestines situation?lol
Your last paragraph is ridiculous.lol
Ok coraltaxie.
The apology tour, dissing Israel, telling the other side the day we are leaving, (I didn't say 4 dead and embassy), every attack we have had on our soil in the past 4 years was called something else, so how is that for a start.
Oh, throwing poor hillary under the bus.
Please number your excuses:
Personally I think that in this kind of situation the whole by-design (bipartisan) internal politics of the usa as well as any foreign relation policies need to be set aside. Over 40,000 people have died (according to the media and isn't likely too far off) in the Syrian conflict. Because of Russia (maybe China too and I'll admit some ignorance here) the USA has not/"cannot" take action. All that it would have taken to prevent ~40k deaths is a statement from the US government saying "NO. This stops now. You capitulate or we take action." Done. No military intervention is necessary. All our govt has to do is say we are going to step in... who is going to argue at that point? There is no nation or alliance on the planet that has any chance against the US Navy. We spend umpteen trillions on "defense" for a reason. We have this power because of our ideals. As a nation we have always fought for the rights of others, just as our forefathers fought to gain us our own rights. Our nation is the ONLY entity that has the power to peacefully end this awful conflict, and we just stand by and watch as 10s of thousands of innocent people are slaughtered by their own repressive regime. If we are going to maintain the military presence and leadership position that we claim, it can't be for nothing. Let's save these people. We don't need troops on the ground to end the suffering of these innocents. We just need a return to our own ideals.
Coral Taxi....."@ido; This is about WMDs not conventional weaponry. Your only goal as usual is to digress and bash Obama more than to inform properly."
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to mount WMDs on weapons given to Assad by Russia and Iran.
Don't need to go very far to figure out Mr. Obama and his "appeasement policy".
You might be better off in the Bahamas looking @ deteriorating reefs.
So its ok to shoot them !? But not Gas them .....
When will we learn to just Shut up ? Or do something quietly and decisively - send team 6 in and get Assad take out ....
You tell them Mr. President...and cut off all their money at the same time please.
Course this just came in over the weekend and I thought many of you would enjoy the article during an actual news cycle.
"Boy, does it cause a stir when a major Russian news site calls your president a
Communist. (Particularly when that news site is Pravda, once the official
newspaper of the Soviet Union.) But the old Commie rag doesn’t seem to be
afraid of controversy this week as its opinion piece "Obama’s Soviet
Mistake" makes its way around the Internet. The biting critique, which
refers to the U.S. prez as a "Communist without question" has
everyone pointing fingers, many of them decidedly mocking ones. Liberals joke
that conservatives finally agree with Russia, while conservatives retort that
they do agree with this claim — it was “illiterates” who re-elected Obama."
www.now.msn.com/pravda-calls-obama-a-communist
@earl;
Let me tell you, this was Obama offering an olive branch not an apology. I will challenge you as many others to show me where he apologizes about anything in this speech. He was telling the Muslims they need to hold their own accountable .. I have read the whole speech twice, have you read it at all, becuase it does not sound like it.
Obama has stated we have an unbreakable bond with Israel, see my above post and you will see what he has and is doing to protect Israel. How has he dissed Israel, he met with Netanyahu in April of this year, which is where he made the statement I just showed you.
Umm we are not leaving completely,we just agrred to a 10 yr extension.
What attacks are you talking about?
Good because all that have on this vine should know it was a consulate, the Embassy is in Tripoli.
Unless you can refute anything I have said here their will be no need for excuse, but I will accept an apolgy tour from you.lol
@ido;
Actually I believe it would.lol
First of all, Jane H: You are delusional and your post confirms that!
Coral Taxi: Time to see the doctor, your meds ARE NOT working and are severely impairing your memory and cognitive process!
Obama has as much credibility on the world wide stage as Jimmy Carter did!!
Obama warns Syria again. Hmmm, sounds like more hollow meaningless hot air to me.
JD in SD and JaxA; well put!!!
@
What??? Do you honestly believe what you are saying. WMD, means WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. Break down each word for a better understanding, if it that will help.
Okay, now let us see how many people (EVERYONE) who still believes that Bush lied about WMD. I have said many times and have posted references (or at least tried) of the Democratic Party that wholeheartly supported Bush when he went to Congress to get the okay to invade Iraq. All you need to do is Bing "weapons of mass destruction quotes" and you will see plenty. Go to snopes and put in the same and you will get a nice little story as well.
@Citizen of the world
one thing you are correct about was an invasion that was planned before 9/11. And how Bush got permission from countless times the information was given back to the WH with Bush Sr, Clinton, then Bush Jr. But just because nothing was found does not mean Saddam finally got rid of them, he just got better at hiding them. With all my heart, I am not taking lightly of what you and many soldiers have gone through with the invasion and the frustration of not finding what you were sent to find. I commend every SINGLE soldier who has/is serving and will for the rest of my life. My husband did two tours and does not believe for a minute they were not moved. There was amble evidence and Saddam was not cooperating with the U.S.
Yeah! Where was the liberal media on that reporting?
Oh thats right, we cant say MUSLIMS bomb anything, thats not PC! It must have been workplace violence!
http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2012/12/muslim-bombs-arizona-social-security-office-with-ied-media-blacks-out-story-2535186.html
Muslim Bombs Arizona Social Security Office With IED, Media Blacks Out Story
But you wouldn’t know it from reading the establishment media reports this past weekend. One reason might be that the suspect is 47-year-old Abdullatif Aldosary of Coolidge, AZ, an Iraqi refugee.
Oh, look - what do we have here, folks? More flapping off at the gums and empty rhetoric by the Administration and bullsh1t propoganda by the zionist media desperately working overtime to get us involved in yet another pointless, asinine Middle Eastern war where MORE of our guys get killed for nothing.
Now let's ALL put on our suprised faces, shall we, kids? Ready? And a ONE, and a TWO and a THREE........GAAAAAAAAASP!!!!!! :D
@eric;
You as others offer insult, but can not refute anything I have said.
Oh really,is that why 21 countries but one wanted him voted in over Romney, that one being Pakistan in hopes the drone program would be changed . Is that why the ME begged our help and still are to deliver them from old dictatorships? Not one country is even in the same universe as us defensively. Now I gave you examples to back my point up where are yours to show how bad he IS doing at foreign affairs?
WMDs would be their last concern should we simply round up these inhumans we call teapublicans and ship their sorry butts over there just with the weapons these antiamericans have sitting sround their own houses.
@earl; Still waiting for that apology, cat got your fingers?lol You as others will tuck and run,and will not refute one thing I have said that shows Obama is doing a good job.
I deliver facts on Bhengazi you guys had no clue about, and I was being nice.
Obama is doing terribly at foreign affairs. Look how badly he is handling terrorism. It took him nearly two years to kill Osama bin Laden. And even then, we had one fatal terrorist attack overseas. Why, Obama hasn't started even one war yet. Just because experts report a dramatic decrease in global terror doesn't mean that Obama is doing a good job. Neither does overthrowing dictators in Libya and Tunisia. Neither does the USA regaining its spot as most respected nation. Why, Obama is not even spending a billion dollars fighting in Syria - what a wasted opportunity!
If only we had an incompetent, blustering baffoon like George Bush! Now there's a foreign policy that can make a million refugees and collapse the global economy!
Really? Now its chemical weapons will this government not stop in its effort to get into yet another war. Who f..in cares what happens in Syria the Islamic world hates us so we should stay the f out of it unless we mean to take thier oil by force. (Which Im ok with) but we dont do that. Let them kill each other its not our fight. Our boys dont need to go to die for arab boys that hate us anyway. You have to wonder what the government wants to distract us from....
Of course, that's the whole point. Saddam Hussein moved his WMDs to Syria. This is what Powell and Rice were talking about. They were being moved so of course by the time the US invaded there were no WMDs to be found.
Saddam played the US and bought time. That was all Saddam needed was time to move his WMDs.
@noncom;
oh sarc, had to pull back the triiger.lol
Good one, finally someone who backs up what they say.
pat yourselves on the back... you voted for an idiot to be president
@eric;
Your votes are more against me than because what you say is correct(dont get to excited)lol. I have shown you how wrong you are and you now have nothing to say to it.
I do my homework while most of you Obama bashers let others form your opinions for you, which is why you can not refute the truth I have shown you tonight.
My problem is not your ignorance,it is your insultive specious words you spew about my president. It did not work for Romney, nor will it work for you here as all you can do is insult me, digress and not back up anything you say about Obama and his foreign affairs.
@earl,eric;
I took the time to answer to what you felt were failures vague as your one word examples were. You offer no challenge to the good I have shown you Obama has done.
Put up or
Of course no such warning to Egypt. Wouldn't want to offend the Muslim Brotherhood.
OBama you should know that we gave Irak poison gas during its war with Iran. Why dont you get your head out of the middle east.
or what.. he will send them aid money
@gary;
There are already calls to cut most of their aid. This administration did not want to see the MBH get elected. We must deal(cant just cut them off) with them for now, this does not mean we back them, as the O bashers would like for you to believe.
See I prove with Obamas own words how he feels. How we deal with Egypt is up in the air, but as you can see Obama publicly states they are not our ally. See Eric.lol
too bad I had to scroll to the bottom of the page, but I guess the BIG question to be asked, that wont be asked, and I would love to see the reaction on the Democrats faces is...."where did Syria get its chemical weapons".
all you have to do is type that same question in on an MSN search, and read all about the Iraqi General who served for Sadaam Hussein and tells in his book, they were moved by civilian planes with the seats ripped out, into Syria, before the U.S. invaded Iraq. For those of you who forgot, the UN was being led around by their noses by the Iraqi prior to our invasion.....for MONTHS.
and now, the smoking gun is staring us in the face....again. Old GW doesnt seem so deceiving or dumb now.... at least not any more than the almighty O.
We have N. Korea testing ICBMs, we have Moscow patrolling the Gulf with nuclear subs, we have Iran testing nuclear warheads....and for some humorous reason, someone at msnbs is thinking that anybody gives a wits ass what the US wants?
Obama has purposely relegated us to third world status, his supportors are dreaming pipe dreams of the next handout with no desire to serve or even care - there is no leadership with four more years to go. Pathetic.
To FedupwithFed...
Thanks so much for sharing that article regarding the bombing of the SS office in Casa Grande, AZ on Friday morning...I just drove through Casa Grande Thursday night, returning to my home in AZ about 2 hours south of there. I could not believe that this was not mentioned in the local news here. So; the FBI will not be taking further action against this man, an Iraqi refugee, because of "political sensitivity"
Coral Taxi:
What is your opinion regarding this? I would think that Homeland Security would be looking into this matter. Or perhaps AZ is no longer of any interest to them? After all; we have plenty of illegals coming in through our border which in itself is a crime, and they get to stay and go to school, so what if one Muslim pissed off at us blows up a building? We don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
Obama is starting to sound like a Republican. Next thing you here from him just might be a sound fiscal plan for the country. Maybe he's not the antichrist afterall.
Notice ...once again...rt wingers and repubs hope the president will fail? Notice how rt wingers and repubs cheer the chance of something going wrong for America?....I do!
Why do rt wingers and repubs hope America fails?........
Oh that's right...they want to be in power...doesn't matter if something good happens to America..that makes them mad....they just want and hope something goes bad for America......because they lost in the elections.....
Coral Taxi ========= You don't listen to what someone says , you watch what they do. That's how you know the truth. Obama's behavior demonstrates he did want to see the MBH ascend to power in Egypt. When Mubarak was in trouble , Obama urged him to leave power. This was our ally for decades who was reliable and helped keep the peace with Israel.
Obama knew the MBH was lurking in the guise of Morsi to take over the country. Everyone in a position to know the situation knew they lusted for the power to impose radical Islam on the country. That has been the case since their founding. Just read the works of Hassan al Banna and Sayyid Qutb. Obama knew this. He was born a Muslim and lived as one and lived with one , his step-father , in the Islamic country of Indonesia. He knows more about Islam than any of the infidels in America. Anyone who knows the MBH credo knows what they intend to do if they gain power.
That credo is as follows : Allah is our objective ; the Koran is our law , the Prophet is our leader , Jihad is our way ; and death for the sake of Allah is the highest of our aspirations.
There are calls to cut the money we give Egypt but not by Obama. These calls come from the rational opponents of our embrace of these thugs who are actively working to impose Sharia law on all Egyptians.
Bottom line Obama shows by his actions he embraces the Islamists who have taken over Egypt. He actively supported this take over and the ejection of our ally Mubarak. Never forget , actions speak louder than words.
starsailing
So after 4 miserable divided years, what the h_— good has happened to "America" starsailing? You are a study of insanity. Almost 5 years and it's (fill in the blank with anybody but "you know whos") fault?? You can't be THAT desparate for your next welfare check can you? pathetic.........
Daaaamn... coral taxi, queen (king?) of the coolade drinkers! Where, oh where, did you get the idea that the world has more respect now that the racist in the White House is Our President? They wanted him in the White House BECAUSE they know he's soft on his Muslim Brothers. Syria knows that the Racist in the White House is a paper lion. His threats are hollow... what's he going to do, send a nasty letter to the UN (who supports terrorism)?
He's a fraud YOU helped to elect... ANYONE that voted for that Racist should be ashamed... and your children will be ashamed YOU elected him AGAIN! I mean, didn't you learn anything the first four years?
I pity people like you... your heads in the sand, hoping that Racist in the White House actually DOES something. So he ordered bin Laden killed?? IF that were a Republican President, you and your other coolade drinkers would be screaming his civil rights and right to due-process were violated. And don't lie, you know you would.
If you use chemical weapons on your own people, the UN will tsk tsk, and I will frown and wag my finger at you. (Anything else will be ignored)
Still waiting for your answer 'starsailing'....hmmmm?
So where's that clown p u s s y Rice hiding now? I don't see her making any statements on how she intends to handle this situation, or is it that she needed her boss OBAMA to make hollow threats this time?
Back a few years, I remember some Iraqi general telling our media that a lot of chemicals prior to the US invasion were moved to Syria. If that is true, we know where Syria got their stash from.
When the world is laughting at your country because they were stupid enough to re-elect a failure who has shown nothing but weakness to the world, your warnings don't mean much. They pretty much fall on deaf ears.
Oh yeah. I'm quite sure that Assad is really laying awake at night worried about what Obama is going to do.
IF . . . . Assad uses any chemical weapons it will probably go something like this.
Obama will send an emissary to ask Assad if he will please leave Syria so we can arrest him to bring him to trial in the Hague. And of course Assad will immediately oblige that request. Because other wise we will be able to do absolutely nothing to him while he lives the rest of his life out in whatever Syrian Presidential palace he wants after he finally crushes the rebels and removes the foreign fighters.
What Obama should really do is to warn Assad that if he uses any chemicals for anything other than controlling the cockroaches at his palace there will be swift, destructive, and irreparable consequences. Namely that the U.S. will send Obama over to Syria to run their economy for 6 months and leave their country in total shambles that will take about 5 generations of future Syrians to dig themselves out of. Thats right. We should threaten them with a full and frightening 6 months of Obama to totally destroy their country from the inside out.
President Clinton's 1998 State of the Union Address demanding H.R.4655:
2003 Operation Iraqis Freedom to accomplish President Clinton's US Law, H.R.4655 "Iraqis Liberation Act of 1998" Justification Section 2 WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, Section 3 US Policy Overthrow of President Hussein (aka Regime Change), with US Congressional Appropriations. President Clinton's FAILED attempt 1998 US Military Operation Desert Fox resulting in the Islamic World condemning the US as the Great Satan.
Nope see the above in writing NOT your Non Factual Opinion and failed attempt at being a psycho (not psychic (mind reader)).
2001 Operation Viking Hammer we attacked, seized and secured the Iraqis Chemical Weapons Facility at Sargat Iraq.
Sure ask General McKiernan, General McChrystal, Secretary of Defense Gates, etc. how much President Obama Does NOT Listen.
I wanted President Obama's Appointed Registered Demoncrap General McChrystal to demand a Public US Congressional Hearing so that all the "This Administration Does Not Know What It Is Doing" (resulted in the unnecessary Deaths of US Citizens of the US Military) to be made Public.
Shows just how much you DO NOT KNOW as a Chickenhawk.
Sure you were a REMF E-nothing sleeping during your Briefing prior to going into Iraq, so you did not even know why you were risking your life (based on your post). And if you think I did not pay attention to your wording "I was in the military at the time of the Iraq invasion" TRANSLATION YOU NEVER SERVED AT IRAQ since you ARE a REMF.
Coral Taxi,
FOS (Full Of Sh!t) and are worse than the Islamic Jihadists with your defending President Obama Wrong or Right to your Death.
President Obama's 2009 (Foreign) Policies, that resulted in the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's increased Overt and Covert Activities Worldwide.
US KICKED OUT OF IRAQ.
President Obama's Appointed Registered Demoncrap General McChrystal warns President Obama about the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's training, arming, funding the Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban, Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada, Fundamentalist Islamic Pakistanis Taliban, Fundamentalist Islamic Hamas Foreign Fighters, Fundamentalist Islamic Chenhen Foreign Fighters, etc. at Afghanistan; President Obama tellsGeneral McChrystal to shut up, and gave him a Letter of Reprimand after General McChrystal told the News Media after President Obama refused to listen (including about how crucial the US Military Logistics Support Bases and US Military Drone Bases at Pakistan were to support Afghanistan).
US LOSS of US Military Logistics Support Bases at Pakistan, UN, NATO, US Military must withdraw to below 30,000 Military, as without the US Military Logistics Support Bases at Pakistan the UN, NATO, US Mission at Landlocked Afghanistan is no longer sustainable. Yet President Obama signed a Agreement with President Karzai for the US Military to remain at US Ally Afghanistan INDEFINITELY.
Muslim Brotherhood negotiated with the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran prior to the Egyptian Revolution to Overthrow US Ally President Mubarak of Egypt. US Ally President Mubarak of Egypt warns President Obama of increased "Al Quada like" Activities at Egypt, President Obama ignores him, then withdraws all US Aid to US Ally Egypt and then the typical Demoncrap (demonizing) name calling of labelling a US Ally a Dictator.
The Holy Warriors of Islam that gathered at US Ally Egypt as trained, armed and funded by the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Special Forces, Quds, were the Muslim Brotherhood, Al Quada Saudi Arabia (AQ), Al Quada Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Al Quada Syria (AQS), Al Quada Yemen (AQY), Hezbollah, Al Quada Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), etc. after the Overthrow of US Ally President Mubarakthey start to attack US Ally Libya; everytime President Gaddaffi sends his Libyan Military to attack the Holy Warriors of Islam they go back into Egypt.
US Ally President Gaddaffi starts warning President Obama about the "Increased Activities of Al Quada" at Libya. The Holy Warriors of Islam using Asymmetric Warfare (trained by Iran's Special Forces, Quds) Insurgency start to inflitrate into Libya, specifically Benghazi, targeting main Libyan Military Munitions Depots of Hight Razma to obtain weapons. After murdering the Libyan Military Guards, the Holy Warriors of Islam start passing out weapons to anyone to start the Libyan Civil War. They then get the Foreign Workers brought into Libya to demonstrate and protest for Libyan Citizen's Rights, and then they fire at the Libyan Police. US Ally President Gaddaffi deploys his Libyan Military. President Obama starts the typical Demoncrap (Demonizing) name calling again calling US Ally President Gaddaffi "Dictator killing his own people". And as Commander In Chief President Obama orders US AFRICOM to attack Libya without US Congressional Approval and without a US Law with US Congressional Appropriations, in Impeachable Violation of US Law, 1973 War Powers Resolution (Act) that Restricts and Limits the US President's War Powers.
During President Obama's Campaign, President Obama INCITED the over 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers Worldwide to Violence against the US Embassies and US Consulates with his "Osama Bin Laden Is Dead, GM is Alive". The Imams at the Mosques Worldwide demand that the Islamic Believers fight the Great Satan (US).
Worldwide the Islamic Believers start screaming "Obama, Obama, We Are All Osama".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TikEcT1DgEU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pJGX1JzyFc
The Holy Warriors of Islamic aka the "Libyan Rebels" that President Obama supported to Overthrow US Ally President Gaddaffi attack the US Consulate at Benghazi.
You Coral Taxi and President Obama (Foreign) Policies EPIC FAILURES and Permanent Losses.
He (President Obama) did NOTHING, the Mission to Locate, Capture Osama Bin Laden, and failing the capture of Osama Bin Laden the Termination of OBL was Pre Authorized since President Bush (43) Amended the US No Assassination Policy in 2006. This Mission was tasked to the Director CIA (further delegated to CIA's SAD/SOG), Commander US Military Special Operation Command, Commander US Military Joint Special Operations Command.
Harvard International Review Article, 2006, "US No Assassination Policy On The Offensive".
Go ask blabber mouth Senator Lieberman about President Obama's Secret Wars.
Really, you might want to tell that to the Russian Federation Admiral Kuznetsov Aircraft Carrier Battlegroup parked at their Base at Tartus Syria (home court advantage for land based logistics, refuel, rearm). As well as most of the USN Admirals saying that we must paint the USN Aircraft Carriers bright yellow as sitting ducks for the current generation of Long Range Hypersonic and Supersonic Anti Ship Missiles (designed specifically to destroy USN Aircraft Carriers), stealth submarines equipped with supercavitating torpedoes, etc..
Jobs for the almost hundred million overpaid too expensive US Civilians employed directly and indirectly by US Defense (including Intelligence), while the US Military Personnel get paid below minimum wages and not a "Fair and Living Wage". How about this, you separate the US Military Budget from the overall US Defense Budget (that includes EVERYTHING, including US Infrastructure Projects at the US). President Obama's 2012, "A 10% Defense Budget Cut will result in a Million (US) Civilians becoming Unemployed".
Either Assad has lost control or Syria is calling the President's bluff.
20 Aug 2012
“We cannot have a situation where chemical or biological weapons are falling into the hands of the wrong people,” he said. “We’ve been very clear to the Assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for us is if we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilised.”
Morsi is an embarrassment for the administration as of right now. They backed him and the revolution and look foolish after praising his Israel/Palestinian negotiations in light of his recent power grab. Libya is a bit of an itch with Benghazi. Iran is yet to be determined (you could make arguments that we have been successful and arguments we have not, with credibility, as to whether we've slowed their nuclear program) as is the tenuous cease fire in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. But this is a no win for the Administration. Either they are going to look weak for letting them cross the firm red line set back in August or they face armed intervention. There is going to have to be some creative diplomacy or a little luck to make this one come out pretty.
Check out this you tube song-video by Barry Mcguire on middle east.It came out 40 yrs ago.
Justonewhiner.....WAAAAAA....Why doesn't president Obama attack Syria........WAAAAAA...why does president Obama warn Syria and not just attack Syria....WAAAAAAA...wwwaaaaa....Darn president Obama might attack Syria he shouldn't do that...wwwaaaaaa........Give the rich more welfare tax breaks or else..WWAAAAAAA
Oh baaaaaaby.......boo hoo.....
Speak softly and carry a limp stick???.......AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH
It's about time President Obama gets serious with Syria. It has been ignored way too long---
Syria probably has always had the Chemical Weapons since the Civil War started there. He's just getting around to being a true Free World Leader now---Assad's Father used Chemical Weapons on his people.
Surprised Assad is still alive--we should have knocked he and his gang out with Drones earlier.
SOS Hillary Clinton, said this is where the US "Draws a Red Line". Look how many people have been tortured, killed, slaughtered? Another Holocaust. The Holocaust was also ignored by our Government back then; They knew about what was happening in Germany to 11,000,000 people of all Religions, and people with disabilities. Every German had to be a perfect specimen of a human being--Hitler..
Syria is worse than Iraq's Hussein; he also used Chemical Weapons on his people--it is time to jump in and save what's left of their innocent Population.
America looks weak to the Middle East---that is why they have been the aggressors getting this far. Time to Stop the Mayhem; even if it is with Threats---other ME Countries could help--but they don't care either. Too busy killing their own people as well.
At least Save the Children being kidnapped and tortured. The KORAN teaches violence, and they actually follow through. A rough "Religiion" or is it a "Manic Cult"?
wow all of the right wing nutbuckects are out tonight
URQ196:
It is possible the numbers of "Right Wing" Nutbuckets are growing.
The part about chemical weapons. Assad should leave and someone should grant him safe passage. The people are willing to die to see him out. There's something seriously wrong. I don't know what it is, but if people are willing to die to see him leave he should go.
But Kudos to Assad for not using chemical weapons to gain the upper hand. That says a lot about him, despite the fact that people are willing to die.
@ moonbeam dreamer......Saddam used MUSTARD GAS on the Iraqi Kurds, it's a WMD, get over it.
Hitler was blinded by MUSTARD GAS in WWI and look at how he turned out, it's not fun stuff.
I see lots of right wingers whining about President Obama, as if he invented the idea of giving money to unstable regimes, what a load of pig**** ! That's funny, I thought it was Ex-President George W. Bush, and Dick "shotgun" Cheney that put us in Iraq ? But the righty-tightys are whining about the current president, as if he put us over there ? Did Ex-President George W. Bush offer an exit strategy or a long term goal/solution ?
What will the brain-washed Republican serfs and ultra corrupt money grubbers cry about next ? Oh, I know....."The Romny Rate", you know the magical 15% income tax figure that rich elites like Willard Romney pays, while the rest of us (including Republican serfs) pay around 35%. What a wonderful pyramid world the Repubo-Nazis have planned for us, but not until John Bainer cries about some issue in a vain attempt to bamboozal a few more Republican serfs....."abortion" ...bla bla bla...."gun control"....bla bla bla..."Ted Nugent"...bla bla...."Kid Rock"...bla bla bla..."Clint Eastwood" bla bla bla bla !
For anyone who doesn't know where the chemical weapons came from.......there were lots of reports of trucks leaving Iraq(during the gulf war) and heading into, yep you guessed it: SYRIA (gee, I wonder where the chemical weapons went ?? :( :( ??)
Oh but ASSAD is such a sweet guy (like Saddam) I'm sure he wouldn't dream of using chemical weapons to save his corrupt pyramid regime ?
"The officials stressed the directive was not an order to use chemical weapons and did not come from Assad directly, but that order and a considerable increase in activity around Syria’s chemical weapons sites have raised serious concerns."
We are back to square one with jokes like those before Iraqi wars on Syria and Iran.
It is Israel, which is supposed to have used chemical weapons recently against Hamas.
Iran can get its nukes from Paki and N. Korea. Still we hear regular stories on "seriousness" of the WMDs in Iran!
Sunni Saudis, oil companies and their lobbyists appear to determine what Obamas, Hillarys, McCains, Romneys speak and do!
Obama:
"Use chemical weapons and there will be consequences. I will do absolutely nothing, just like I have as half the Middle East has been taken over by Islamic thugs. Libya?- check. Egypt?- check. Iraq?- check. Probably Afghanistan next. I don't know what the f**k to do because I am about as incompetent as they come."
Unbelievable!
@GARY;
The egyptians picked the MBH . You will hold Obama responsible for another countries choice?lol He gave them choice he did not make it.
I show you with his own words where he says Egypt is not an ally, you just ignore it. Obama does not kowto to Islamist, you are kidding yourself.
Once again you are kidding yourself. Obama is a Christian and was only around Islam in his adolescence. He obviously rejected it . Accusing Obama of being an Islamist sympathiser is ignorant at best, when he is taking out leaders weekly and monthly.
Yes he is so soft he goes after them where they eat and sleep and takes them)their leaders) out quicker than I can keep up with them, We are talking about Islamists not Muslims in general. Read my posts and you will see how the world respects him.
@david;
Way to say so much and nothing at all. You lie about your service, I have called you out on it , where I caught you in your lies, should I repost this so the viners see how much merit your words truly hold. I do not really deal with you anymore because you are not rational, and constantly lie.
Still with all these words nothing to back them up, your diatribe is just copy and paste opinions not facts. I lay many successes in front of all of you and you just ignore them
@david;
Here is an example of Davids vitriol, now watch this.
Please David show me where I defend Islamic jihadist. Just this one thing not a diatribe. Show me in quotes where I defend them,you are kidding yourself. Now watch viners David will disappear and not back his accusation of me up, because he is a liar, especially about himself.
I dare you to deny you lie, and I will show where you have lied about yourself with your own words.Obviously you did not learn your lesson the first time I called you out.
Maybe you late comers missed this, still not one with thousands of words have refuted anything I have said on the successes we have made, you do not even adress them.lol Way to keep the blinders on.
You guys are kidding yourselves. We have respect from most countries once again. Terrorism has been tamped down, Obama is taking out Taliban and Al qeada leaders faster than I can keep up with them. The ME is begging our help to free them from dictators, we delivered even if they make choices we do not agree with.
We are massing thousands of troops to deter Iran from a preemtive strike. Hell even Myanmar is thinking about the road to Democracy.lol Russia and China only flex now and again nothing new there. Obama is beefing up the already powerful forces in the Pacific and concentrating on Asia. Out of 21 countries only one wanted Romney to win, that one was Pakistan. The reason why was because they hoped ther would be achnge in the drone program, guesss what,Obama won so the Mullahs still need to hide.
Obama has approved many successfull covert missions you guys know nothing of. The world takes Obama seriously, and so does Assad, he knows he will be struck immediately following the use of any WMDs, no matter who is in office.
Obama has done a great job on foreign affairs, period.
Bottom line question rightwingnuts: with all your chest-thumping and Obama-bashing, would you send your kid(s) to Syria to fight? Yea, let's send our young kids half way across the world and just hope they come back in one piece. Again.
jerseyshoremarie, you are quite welcome! MSN wouldnt dare publish that article! We have to be PC you know...
Dont hold your breath waiting for CT to answer you, she is delusional and a paid troll for Barry! Ignore button works really well...and seeing other comments on her tonight, many more might be using ignore.
Please us them ...this president won't do $hit....
@ fed
I have taken you to task so many times I can not count. Should I rehash you being burned by your won words?
You are such a hypocrite. You complain about NBC censoring, then you openly admit you put me on ignore.lol Hypocrite.
I always burn you, where you can not defend your points,this is why you ignore me.
@jerseyshore; Fed is right I will not answer to it because it is severe digression. I am defending Obama on foreign affairs not domestic.
What does this have to do with Syria, Egypt and Islamist, and the ME? Nothing.
@jmj;
Prime example of Obama bashing and not giving any example or personal reason why they feel this way.lol Even after I give a laundry list of his successes.
@earl; Hey where did you go buddy? Did you read the speech for yourself yet?Have you found that apology yet?lol Apology tour my arse.lol
@eric; Could not refute what I have said about the world respecting Obama could you? More blanket statements from the bashers, with no backbone.
Of course they get voted up by the haters whether it is wrong or right.
#jerseyshore; You know what I looked into this anyway, so now read how wrong you and fed are.
Here is the answer to your sarcasm, seems homeland security has had their eye on this guy for a while. That is fact. My opinion is that this is some disgruntled man trying to get his name in the press. This guy is a bad seed, I do not believe jihad is his true motivator, even if he says it is. I know Islamist MO, this mans lifestyle is far from it. They found evidence of bomb making and materials,but no mention of a fatwah, or anything relating to Islam, yet.
Now what will you say jerseyshore, just admit your sarc on homeland security was not merited. News outlets are for sensationalism,nooone was hurt or killed, this more than his roots is why it was not widely reported at the beginning.
To bad fed has me on ignore as he can not see the truth.lol
@jersyeshore;
Oh don,t listen to fed you can exhale now.lol
Question to 'Starsailing': What good has happened to America the last 4 years?
ANSWER:
starsailing
Finally....the answer is basically NOTHING.....he's elected a fool.
Coral Taxi ========== Anyone with the capacity for rational analysis and a degree of experience in the world knows , actions speak louder than words. Talk is cheap , politicians prove this every day. If you don't know this you're one of the few still confused. This law of human nature is the reason you don't prove anyones real intentions by the mere words they utter. Obama has proved by his actions what he truly thinks and feels.
When Mubarak , our ally for 30 years , was being besieged , Obama condemned his " old way " of doing things , instead of standing up and supporting him. Obama condemned Mubarak's suppression of the opposition , i.e. , the Muslim Brotherhood. He made these comments in Feb.,2011 at a joint press availability meeting with the Canadian Prime Minister , Stephen Harper. According to the NYT Obama , during a phone conversation on Feb. 1 , 2011 , with Mubarak , told him he must step down. Obama joined with the MBH in pushing out our friend ; on that point the evidence is overwhelming and unassailable.
Obamas actions are as responsible for the MBH's ascension in Egypt , and the betrayal of our most stalwart ally in the Arab world over the past 30 years , as virtually any other factor. He might as well be sitting in meetings with the Muslim Brotherhood planning tactics for how to take over Egypt and deny human right like freedom of speech , press , religion , equal treatment of women , to all Egyptians. He knew the MBHs history and credo.
I did not say Obama was a Muslim now. I spoke the facts; he was born a Muslim. He was raised as a Muslim in the Muslim country of Indonesia. He lived in Indonesia in a home with his step-father who was a Muslim. It seems indisputable , based on these proven facts ( not even disputed by him ) , that he knows much more about Islam than any Infidel in America.
Your defense of his behavior toward Egypt is flimsy and easily eviscerated by the reality of what he has actually done.
I have shown you action taken by Obama on Islamist radicals in my posts. I have shown what he has done not just what he has said.
Not hardly, he helped the people of Egypt not the MBH. Because someone else says he joined the MBH makes it "unassailable" ?lol Try again. I have shown where he states publicly Egypt is no longer an ally. His words not someone elses.
Obama has shown his actions by lifting countries away from dictatorships to have a chance at Democracy. He has taken the top eschelon of terror out, with drone strikes and covert actions, Actions sir not words. He has bolstered our forces in the Pacific, actions sir. I could go on but you get the picture. I hope.
Umm no,the people of Egypt put the MBH in office. They were ruled by a ruthless dictator,who stole from the country and murdered people and convicted without due process.
You are not born anything. He was raised in Hawaii as a Christian.
I highly doubt it.lol Trying to say Obama is an Islamist sympathiser is ridiculous and unfounded.
What has he actually done? Free a people from an oppressive dictator. They begged our help we helped them. They made a bonehead move and put an Islamist in offfice . This is Obamas fault?lol
I am defending his record on foreign policy,and have backed it up with many examples.
For the last time he does not back the MBH. I have shown you this. If you truly believe this statement than you are the misguided one sir. The people of Egypt have seen their error and will fix it.
justonewhiner....as if you really give a flying Romney if I listed pages and pages of his accomplishments....you lost.....WWWWAAAAAAAAAA!
starsailing
Boy....get a life and begin to think. You obviously don't work and live in mommy's basement.
Coral Taxi ======= Under Islamic law if you are born the child of a Muslim father , you are a Muslim. Look it up. You think the son of a Muslim man is considered to have no religion when he is born. Please! Go try that view on Muslims in Saudi Arabia or Iran or Egypt or any other Islamic country.
@gary;
My point is the baby does not know any better. I go by Americas laws as does Obama. Maybe you honor this Islamic law, but I am sure Obama does not.
Now you guys are holding Obama accountable for where he was born, and what religion his father was. WOW.lol
I am pretty sure that both were out of his control.
Coral ======== I'm just providing facts for your enlightenment. They are pesky things , aren't they.
By the way , where did I hold him accountable for where he was born? I never uttered one single syllable about where he was born. And where did I say he was responsible for his father's religion? Answer, nowhere.
You make up non-existent comments and then address them in a sanctimonious fashion as if your misrepresentations won't be exposed. And , you do have a proclivity to use lol in such a promiscuous fashion as to detract from any merit your comments might accidentally contain.
You said under Islamic law. I took this to mean the laws in the country he was born.
I took this to mean you are blaming him for being Muslim because his father was, that would not be fair.
Umm no , maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say, but I am not word playing to make myself look right, I am here tp learn also,not just spout my views as they are the only ones that count.
If I am born to Satan worshippers does that make me a Satan worshipper also? You are trying to say if you have a Muslim father you are Muslim, I disagree, do you agree with this sir?
Do you agree with the Islmac law that this is true. Do you have another point beside just stating this as fact?
Where have I misrepresented something? Taking things out of context ,maybe, but I do not pourposely misrepresent anything, even to my advantage. I do not kid myself as so many others here that could not back up their accusations of my president,you included sir.
My retorts have enough merit that not one person has backed up any of their bashing,because they are dead wrong.
I continue with you because you are not insultive,and stay relative, and use your own words with your facts, not a diatribe of copy and paste and digression. I also respect your opinion even though it is a little far out as far as Obama sympathizing with Islamist. gotta do it.LOL
We are on the same team, just different opinions of our leader abilities.
So do you agree with this Islamic law?
Coral ======== No , I don't agree with Sharia law that considers the children of a Muslim father, Muslims from birth. But my opinion will be of no import to those that do so believe. I believe in the freedom to chose your religious views at an age when that decision can be made after a rational analysis of all the available evidence.
I'm on the team that believes in the right to think what you want and say what you think. I'm opposed to the censorship of anyone , include those with which I disagree and I'm opposed to the intolerant who seek to impose their values by force on those that reject them. I'm opposed to any religion that seeks to use force to compel others to relinquish their beliefs and adopt those of the aggressor. I'm on the team that supports equal rights for women and oppose the team that seeks to deny these rights.
Obama is too busy waging war against white Americans to be concerned about foreign threats that won't climax until the next administration. Then, the media can say it happened on a Republican's watch, meaning it's their fault.
That's not liberal at all.
Obama will make no move on Syria until the Muslim Brotherhood is strong enough to control the rest of the rebels! Then, and only then will Obama move to help the rebels gain control!
Stockpiles of WMDs hummmm, now where have I heard this before?
I get what you're saying, but this is a very different situation from Iraq. Iraq used Mustard Gas to attempt a genocide against the Kurds in the late 1980's, they were ordered by the U.N. to get rid of all their Mustard Gas and WMD's which they did do, but Bush his crew decided not to believe it and start a war. In Syria's case, they openly admit to owning different types of WMD's and register their quantities with the U.N. every year.
Don't use them or else we'll go in front of the UN and tell them that you are a bad man..And then do nothing....
I'm so happy we are training Al Qaida in how to secure and handle chemical weapons.
Why don't we just carpet bomb those sites?
We don't have permission. But that doesn't stop us in Pakistan.
Didn't Barack tell Assad it was time to go ............... about 2 years ago?
He must be a racist for not following Barack's orders.
Yep, Iraq was worse though, Saddam had already used them, and insisted as recently as the day Gulf War 2 started, that he still had them. Of course the libs will embrace Obama for going to war with Assad, who is tame compared to Saddam.
quick call it a pre-emptive stike...bust a move on 'em barry...
I'd say that sounds a hell of alot better than "Don't use them or we'll send thousands of citizens to go die on your soil while we commit economic suicide at home."
DAMASCUS: The Syrian government on Monday said it would never use chemical weapons "even if they existed" against its people under any circumstance, Xinhua reported.
The Syrian foreign ministry's statement came in response to recent remarks made by US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who Monday warned President Bashar al-Assad against using chemical weapons and said the Washington was prepared to act if he ignored the warning.
"Syria has repeatedly stressed to the American side directly, or through the Russian friends, that it will not use such weapons, even if they existed, against its people under any circumstance," the ministry said.
The ministry said the US was known for fabricating such issues as it did in Iraq before the 2003 invasion.
Clinton, earlier in the day, said the use of chemical weapons " is a red line for the US," adding that "I am not going to telegraph in any specifics what we would do in the event of credible evidence that the Assad administration has resorted to using chemical weapons against their own people.
"But suffice it to say we are certainly planning to take action if that eventuality were to occur."
Not sure where you got that article Brian but Syria is open about the weapons it does have, they do not deny having them. The only site that has "even if they existed" as part of that quote that I could find is a Chinese website, all other websites have a different version of that quote.
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Then the Times of India should check into why U.N. Inspectors visit the WMD stockpiles in Syria and how they could be unaware while the rest of the world has known for years and the Syrian government openly admits it themselves.
Yeah Syria...don't you dare use chemical weapons! You know, like the phosphorous shells we used on the children in Fallujah... or the chemical agents we sold our ally Hussein in the 80's....THOSE kind of chemicals!!!
The hypocrisy is fascinating. I love it when America tries to take "the high road" when we have so many skeletons in the closet we lose track of 'em! Oh...but we're AMERICA and, yes, FOX NEWS will tell ya all you need to know about the TRUTH of AMERICA! (sarcasm)
BTW, I am a vet of Iraq war and happen to know about our use of chemical weapons...so you right wing nuts out their can save your breath by asking me my proof. I know first hand...I don't need to explain myself to anyone, much less the parrots of American ideology.....
riverboy,
remember "Bush and his crew" included H. Clinton, J. Kerry, and the vast majority of Congress plus The United Nations!
Hey Assad! can you hold off on this action until 12/21? I've got to get my stuff out of law-a-way.
Plus, I think Barry is going to bust a move on Syria if this gets any worse.
I personally don't give a rat's behind about Syria. The only way to have peace in that region of the world is to nuke the whole damn place. From Lebanon, Gaza, Isreal, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuait, Saudi Arabia, the whole war mongering Jew-Muslim infested region. I think that would be better for the planet and our budget to just wipe all those moron nations out. The biggest problem if terrorists get their hands on chemical weapons and use them here is they attack population centers (read as Blue areas). If they would use them in red states or red areas of swing states making them blue states, shoot I might even be willing to help them help eliminate those unAmerican red voting phucks. The old Enemy of my enemy is my friend deal.
Your credentials are unimpressive citizen of the world. I'm a genious and just don't care what feeble minded people say. ;-P
Sorry, but vague credentials people imply about themselves (aka lies) always make me laugh. You're a dish washer at a Cici's pizza and have never been out of Texas, admit it.
So Frank...We get that you do not like Muslims or Jews...Hope you know that if you nuke all the regions that you mentioned, you will be wiping out Christians who live there, also. Quite a few of your "blue buddies" may not be so happy about blowing up Bethlehem or Jerusalem, either. Wish you would join the terrorists; you sound pretty close to one all ready, willing to wipe out those who do not have your religious/political views. Hopefully they will indoctrinate you enough that you will be willing to be "vested" and blow yourself up for the cause.
Riverboy... you're right... Iraq DID get rid of thier WMD's... and NBC showed video of those all black semi-truck caravans leaving Iraq TO Syria before Sad Aim Hussian let the UN (supporters of terrorism) in to "inspect" his facillities.
I mean, come on... he had now proof that they were destroyed, the UN (supporters of terrorism) took his word for it! How's THAT for being a Body of Peace?? Now Syria has the ability, and WILL USE IT, to use chemical weapons on the rebels. Not just syran, but botchulims (sp), mustard, and whatever else Hussain made...
riverboy21
ROFL...this would be funny if it weren't so sad.....
@in the middle....I served in the 190th ARW USAF, Topeka, Kansas. Served 1995-2005. Captain, honorable discharge. Blow me.
And you served where????
LOL. A F**king REMF, unless you were a USAF Special Operations Wing (SOW) Team Member (STT).
US Military Training Teams attached to the CIA's SAD/SOG sent to US Ally Iraq during the Iran Iraq Wars, rotated to Operation Cyclone. And most of the crap in between during the so called "Peacetime US Military" until now (Afghanistan again Indefinitely). Previously, I came back in for a cush desk job (and no more Combat LRRP/Ranger), and did have a cush desk job as Career Field Nuclear (Weapons) Physics, trained in Launch Platforms (Missiles), Chemical (live agent training at Fort Redacted, experience at Redacted, involved with Operation Golden Python and Steel Box), Biological (Epidemiology, training at Redacted).
Bush and his team were discovering dangerous "chemical weapons" and "WMDs" before 2003 Iraqi war!
Sunni Saudis, oil companies and lobbyists were directing the dances and dramas of Bush and his team.
In those days, Obama had opposed 2003 Iraqi war. Obama had promised withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Now the same Obama administration, jumped into Libya. Later the US got badly thrashed in Benghazi.
It seems Sunni Saudis, oil companies and lobbyists do all thinking and actions.
Or else, how one would put sanctions on Iranian oil and push oil prices higher and higher from around $40 in 2009 to more than $100 now?
Obama and his team are discovering chemical weapons in Syria and dangerous WMDs in Iran!
One can't believe how position changes human perceptions and actions!
Ferndoc, remember everyone that voted was voting based upon lies and fabricated intelligence from "Bush and his Crew."
"Totally unacceptable" sounds like a condition put forth by Mr. Spock.
He would probably be more specific, like 99.9736% unlikely, but yes, I agree.
Well, now we know what excuse is going to be used to get us into the game.
What, we passed that a long time ago. Obama didn't need an excuse in Libya and Yemen. he doesn't need an excuse now. Something else is keeping him from acting. Iran perhaps?
"Iraq has weapons of mass destruction! Syria has weapons of mass destruction! Iran is building weapons of mass destruction!"
Can't you war-mongers come up with something new, like Syria is building a Death Star? Do you really think the people of the world are so stupid that after seeing all the previous lies about this or that nation having weapons of mass destruction, we would fall for the same lie again?
And if Syria has such weapons, they are not using them against their own people but against the invading foreign mercenary army trying to overthrow Assad for the US. And that is the reason to have such weapons.
Bill Clinton bombed Iraq in 1998 (Desert Fox) because he, Madeline Albright, Sandy Berger and Nancy Pelosi all said Saddam had WMDs. Funny how the left desperately wants to forget that.
So I guess Bill Clinton was a war monger. Oh, and his ugly wife must be too, because in 2008, she said we'd "obliterate Iran" if they attacked Israel.
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Brian
Ask Obama, he is the one pushing that line now. Get with the program. Bush says WMD based on intelligence = BAD. Obama says WMD based on intelligence = Good. Under Bush financial problems take hold due to climate events, war, terrorist attacks, financial problems overseas, etc =BAD. Obama has same problems and blames them on climate, war, terrorist attacks, markets overseas, ATMs and any other excuse he can think of, no matter how lame, and it = GOOD. And if you don't like it Chris Mathews and the other sycophants at NBC will call you a racist. Get with the program, man!
Yeah Syria...don't you dare use chemical weapons! You know, like the phosphorous shells we used on the children in Fallujah... or the chemical agents we sold our ally Hussein in the 80's....THOSE kind of chemicals!!!
The hypocrisy is fascinating. I love it when America tries to take "the high road" when we have so many skeletons in the closet we lose track of 'em! Oh...but we're AMERICA and, yes, FOX NEWS will tell ya all you need to know about the TRUTH of AMERICA! (sarcasm)
BTW, I am a vet of Iraq war and happen to know about our use of chemical weapons...so you right wing nuts out their can save your breath by asking me my proof. I know first hand...I don't need to explain myself to anyone, much less the parrots of American ideology.....
Interesting. So we gave those countries (like Iraq) those weapons, and obviously, Iraq used them against Iran and even their own people in the 80s. So, in 1998, all the dems saying those WMDs existing were telling the truth. But by 2001 when Bush said the same thing, it all became a great big lie....because, yup...Clinton in his little three-day bombing just got rid of ALL of them, all-righty... you know, the ones that existed, and all.
Repost as often as you like citizen, but you're bs still stinks.
Does not stink anywhere near your 5th grade responses. BTW, I posted above where I served. With honor. 5th generation. Again, blow me.....when you get old enough.
Another problem Saddam created for himself was to threaten Israel's existence. By using chemical weapons(where ever they came from) on his own Kurds, and then to threaten Israel, he only created more problems for himself.
Most people seem to forget that Saddam had the 4th largest military in the world, only behind the US, Russia, and China (thanks to these big countries). Saddam planned to control the entire region, and thus control the oil sales, and the world market.
Like Khadaffi, Saddam just made too many threats. Khadaffi did not learn the first time and neither did Saddam. Assad was cut from the same mold, as was Idy Amin(spell), Noriega, Mousillini, Stalin, Poll Pot, Himmler, Hitler.
One can't believe Obama administration trying to fool us on Syria and Iran. Can't they try some new tricks?
See the jokes going in Syria with Sunni Saudi rebels, al-Qaida, MB on one side and the Assad’s forces on the other sides!
Just check all languages of the media, UN Security council, human rights groups, Erdogan’s, and others! These are paid pipers of Sunni Saudis, oil companies and their lobbyists.
Shiites and Sunnis are busy battling whose Allah is greater.
What roles Hillarys, McCains, Netanyahos, Libernanns, Romneys have in Syria and Iran?
If atrocities and barbarism on girls, children and women are the criteria, then the most despotic, autocratic and bigoted Sunni Saudi ruler with his 5000 princes and princesses, Kuwaiti, UAE and other Arab League Sunni rulers and their rich sheiks are the biggest culprits in the history.
Through the Muslim immoral trafficking gangs, these barbarians have assembled all varieties of poor and helpless girls and women from all over the world in their harems and brothels.
In killing of opponents again, these people have established world records in religious battles.
If the US, Britain and others support such Sunni barbarians and beasts who treat girls and women as cheap sex slaves, then one can only conclude that Saudis, oil companies and their lobbyists determine what to see, how to lecture and where and when to act.
Rest like “human rights”, “killing of children and women”, “militants”, “terrorists”, “WMDs”, “chemical weapons” and so on are a pure hoax.
Similar hoaxes were played each time before Iraqi wars on directions of Saudi, oil companies and their lobbyists.
Now none of them are looking into Iraq, where at least a million have been killed and devastated.
Twice are too much to tolerate.
Man who died and made the good ole U.S. of A. the world police. Oh well, I guess this is the price we pay for the power we have.
So Big daddy it's ok to you for the Syrian Government to use chemical weapons on it's own people?? I'd like you to tell that to the people whose family memebrs die when Assad does use them...Think you can do that?
Well we're a member of the UN security council and it's against International Law to use Chemical Weapons. So I guess the world made us the world police. ;)
Not worried. Syria is Syria's problem. Not ours.
Rob
With all due respect, I don't think those family members make a distinction between being killed with WMD, shot down in the streets, bombed with planes and helicopters, shelled with mortars, etc.. Either way their grandchildren, sons, daughters,brothers, sisters, husbands , wives, etc are dead/wounded and those left behind have their lives and properties destroyed forever. If there is cause to act to protect them it should not depend upon the nature of the weapon/tactic used to kill them. The real worry is that these weapons will fall into the hands of those that will use them against US. Including the very rebels Obama is hoping topple Assad.
For whatever reason we've been the world police for decades.
Part of our HUGE defense spending problems...
I'm with tactical here. Not My Problem. Repeat after me, Not My Problem.
when the head guy of the most powerful and obviously the most insane nation in the world says ''there will be consequences'',it would heed one to listen.
The Consequences, as always:
The Rich will get richer, the Poor will die.
no so John,history teaches that once the poor are pushed far enough into a corner they murder the rich and take what they need.
Joe,
Do you have the same opinions when Republicans make such statements?
This time , We'll write a really really strongly worded letter and tell them to stop.. Next time it will be a really really Really, strongly worded letter.. We already sent them a strongly worded letter but it may have gotten lost.. That will show them..
That may work, but if it does not, just blame Bush.....that always works.
I warned the Iranians too. Stop enriching Uranium! In the last debate I warned them that there was a time limit before there would be serious consequences. So what did they do? Increased the rate of production. Why won't anyone believe my empty threats? Must be that "apology tour" I did when I first took office.
Or your unearned Peace Prize.
You are a very serious threat sir obammy...... its just like when you announced when we would be leaving afghanistan.... another brilliant military move from your wealth of knowledge as to military stradigy. You amaze me sir obammy.... by any chance was your mammy, aunt Jamima??? Whoops, cant be true, your mother is the white half that you despise so much... sorry. Well, sir, i see your are threatening Syria with action if they use chemicals on their citizens.... what are your plans? All we have left in the military is a few rafts, and a couple muzzle loaders, and some horses..... remember, you cut the budget cause we dont need the military anymore, because everyone loves you so much, cause you bring everyone in the world together...... Oh obammy.... you are the most wonderful president Santa Claus ever... just keep giving out the gifts and you will be elected more and more times.... we all love you Santa......
Yes, use the weapons and we will do to you what we did to the Iranians
Wichita Cops Indiscriminately Fire Tear Gas on 1,000 Nightclub Patrons (Video
This past Thanksgiving weekend in Wichita, Kansas police indiscriminately fired tear gas on over 1,000 nightclub patrons.
The story is just now finally beginning to surface in the media, thanks to viral videos that were posted to YouTube.
Tear Gas? Find one that reads Sarin Nerve Gas and you just might have a valid comparison.
That tear gas still appears to be impacting Brian. He's posting to the wrong story....can't see straight I guess.
As soon as the Muslim Brotherhood is strong enough to dominate the rest of the rebels in Syria Obama will move! He will move to help the Brotherhood take Syria!
All kidding aside. These chemical weapons came from Saddam.
No, they didn't.
The ones from Saddam are stored separately.
These are the ones he admits to having.( registered with the U.N.)
They also have a third stash from Iran.
Iran was caught last year smuggling some in through Turkey.
Never saw so many chicken hawks clucking the same ole crap. This thread is absurd. We should not go to war over Syria. Don't you tough boys have anything else to do.
Just randomly attack all posters at once. Don't bother taking a position and discussing or defending it.
Very cowardly way to not commit to anything.
PRESENT.
OK MC Gust of wind...I'll take your smelly bait. I was in the Iraq War! You??? Did you find any WMD in Iraq??? Gee wiz...NONE OF US DID!!! Wow. Saddam WANTED the world to think he had WMD because he did not want Iran to invade (which, after an 8 year war with Iraq, they would have loved to do). So that's my position...based upon first hand experience and knowledge of Iraq. Now, please tell me about what it's like to be "cowardly"......
I'll take that challenge citizen. Cowardly, I imagine, would be you. Even if you were there (which I doubt) you have no idea what was there. All you know is what you saw, again, if you were even there. Based on your word selection, I doubt you have been out of the kitchen.
Cowardly is also hiding behind the U.S. military as president and sending our troops to die for something that is not our freaking problem.
First, I don't have to justify crap to you "in the middle." I see your remarks on here rise just above a 4th grader...at best. Second, I go through these post and read your insults and Faux News talking points and laugh at you. I've been voting since 1976. I doubt your balls have even dropped. Third, my job in the service was to personally brief and debrief every soldier we sent to theater. What was your job "in the middle"??? Can you tell me where you were at in 2001-2005??? Were you sitting in a war room getting intel? Like I have stated before, your just another a$$wipe sitting behind a computer making snide remarks about my REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE. You, on the other hand, cannot justify $hit to me. So go grow some and come back on when you got something worth a damn to say. I won't hold my breath considering the low level intelligence you have already demonstrated.
By the time obama gets doen gutting the military, we will be riding over on rafts and attacking on horse back with muzzleloaders. He should keep his mouth shut if he is not going to back up anything he says. All he does is get us into more trouble he cant get out of.... Stay in Hawaii obama and leave the country for Biden and Pelosi (groan) to run...... lol
For a 92 year old women, Pelosi sure has a nice rack.
It's obvious SILICONE VALLEY inspired her.
When she smiles in winter, her face actually cracks....... and Biden has to water his hair every day to keep his plugs growing..... I think when they planted his plugs, something got into his brain, cause he sure is whacked out...... At least he is not a muslim though... one good thing.
Never mind responding to post above MC Gusto...after reading this, I see I'm dealing with a 5th grader.... :/
92 is the new 21 in troll years, but seriously, what make's someone think about Pelosi's rack.........that's just wrong.
This sound like Bush Jr., wonder who the democrats will blame for this war.
Gee, Bush gets reamed for taking out So Damn Insane due to his past and potential use of WMD but it's OK for the almighty Obama to use such force on the Assad regime. The main stream media's double standard appears once again to support their boy and their agenda.
What is Obama going to do, spank him! Ha Ha!
Let's just keep training the "REBELS" how to handle chemical weapons.
What could possible go wrong there?
Hey all you Presdient Obama haters. You only have 4 years and one month to go. Can't you people come up with something clever. Something new, something old, just something but, the same old crap.
If he does something right I will acknowledge it.
Can you tell me what he has done right since the election?
Or...what has he done before the election?
Or what Breeze's comment has to do with this article?
Breeze... it's pretty apparent they operate on limited resources
Syrian Sarin. Only the best, never been cut. Soon to be sold in all 7-11's.
Must be over 14 to purchase.
How funny , we training Alqaida and arming and sending them into Syria, our Friends ( Alqida Masters ) the Saudis and Qataris paying for it , they murdering Syrians at will and destroying that country , and we turn around and threaten them , If I was Assad I tell Hillary to go straight to hell , she is the one behind most of that mess in Syria , Saudis , Qataris , Turkey , and the US and NATO are involved up to their necks in that war , Shame on us , we are helping the same thugs that attacked here on 9/11 , and we know it , these thugs are killing the Christians and murdering women and children's , and our Intel. have said Alqaida are in Syria , where are our fine senators to investigate whats happening , Oh sorry , it is not a cigar , its only Alqaida . shame on all our crooked politicians . its seems like its OK for us to use every illegal weapon there is and its OK for NATO and Israel to do the same , but we threaten every other country , hell Saddam use them and we didn't,t say anything , he was our ally at that time , Hypocrites . I think if somebody attack me in my house and start killing my childrens , I will use everything I got on them ???? just saying .
What did Obama do "Triple Dog Dare him"?
Massacring your people with bullets and bombs is the accepted way. Why change in mid stream?
Well, there ya go. I'm sure they're trembling in their turbans. I mean, who decided that it was OK for the Islamists of the Muslim Brotherhood to take these countries over in this contrived, non-existent "Arab Spring"? Oh, right, it's all part of the plan for the Caliphate. Guess what's going to happen when the new Caliphate is established ... we'll be fighting them in the streets of America. We're fat, lazy and politically correct. Muslims are thin, energized and murderous. Yeah, like making a deal with the devil is going to work out THIS time ...The world is becoming exponentially more dangerous by the day.Islam is poison.
Oh, sorry, I meant to say "teddy bears and puppies" ... I wouldn't want to offend anyone.
Since the 1979 Iranian revolution and the downfall of the US Puppet Ruler the Shah, Iran has been an Islamic state. In that interval of time, 1979 to the present, Iran has not invaded anyone. Not once. People of all religions live in peace in Iran, even Jews, who find life so comfortable in Iran they refused an offer by the government of Israel to emigrate!
In the same period of time, Israel, a self-declared Jewish state, attacked Iraq in 1981, bombing the power station at Osirik, claiming it was a clandestine weapons factory. Subsequent examination of the ruins following the 2003 invasion proved Israel had lied. In 1982, Israel invaded Lebanon. This led to the Massacres at Sabra and Shatilla. In February 2003 Israel staged incursions into Gaza and Nablus. In September 2007 Israel bombed Syria, again insisting they were destroying a clandestine weapons laboratory. Again there was no evidence to support Israel's claims. In 2006, Israel attacked Lebanon, killing 1200, mostly civilians, several UN observers, and littering the landscape with land mines on their way out. In February 2008 Israel again raided Gaza, killing over 100. HAMAS agreed to a cease fire and kept it for 6 months until November 4, when Israel again attacked without warning, killing 6 HAMAS members, and launching operation CAST LEAD. 1300 Gazans, mostly civilians, were killed. Israel lost 13 soldiers. Violations of international law included the use of White Phosphorus incendiary bombs against civilians and non-military targets. The United Nations investigated, but Israel refused to cooperate. In May 2010, Israel attacked an international aid flotilla bringing food and medical supplies to Gaza in international waters. 9 people were murdered including an American from New York.
In the same period of time, the United States, officially a secular nation but predominantly Christian, attacked El Salvador (1980), Libya (1981), Sinai (1982), Lebanon (1982 1983), Egypt (1983), Grenada (1983), Honduras (1983), Chad (1983), Persian Gulf (1984), Libya (1986) , Bolivia (1986), Iran (1987), Persian Gulf (1987), Kuwait (1987), Iran (1988), Honduras (1988), Panama (1988), Libya (1989), Panama (1989), Colombia, Bolivia, and Peru (1989), Philippines (1989), Panama (1989-1990), Liberia (1990), Saudi Arabia (1990), Iraq (1991), Zaire (1991), Sierra Leone (1992), Somalia (1992), Bosnia-Herzegovina (1993 to present), Macedonia (1993), Haiti (1994), Macedonia (1994), Bosnia (1995), Liberia (1996), Central African Republic (1996), Albania (1997), Congo/Gabon (1997), Sierra Leon (1997), Cambodia (1997), Iraq (1998), Guinea/Bissau (1998), Kenya/Tanzania (1998 to 1999), Afghanistan/Sudan (1998), Liberia (1998), East Timor (1999), Serbia (1999), Sierra Leon (2000), Yemen (2000), East Timor (2000), Afghanistan (2001 to present), Yemen (2002), Philippines (2002) , Cote d'Ivoire (2002), Iraq (2003 to present), Liberia (2003), Georgia/Djibouti (2003), Haiti (2004), Georgia/Djibouti/Kenya/Ethiopia/Yemen/Eritrea War on Terror (2004), Pakistan drone attacks (2004 to present), Somalia (2007), South Ossetia/Georgia (2008), Syria (2008), Yemen (2009), Haiti (2010), etc. etc. etc. etc.
So, who is the danger to world peace?
Brian, 'Iran has not invaded anyone", yeah cause they do it through their proxies, like Hezballah, Hamas, Assad,And the other Jihad brothers. If I'm not mistaking they did try to battle Iraq, but got their butts kicked by Saddam You fail to mention why Israel, and the USA, had to go into those area's mentioned. Good try with your misdirection, and slant, but no ones buying, now go party with your boy, Imanutjob. He agrees with you
Um, in Egypt they were elected. What do we do? Nuke em all? Why must we always be at war? Invasion, after invasion with few or no results. Maybe if we stop killing people, they will leave us alone for awhile. Even 9/11 was retaliation for having troops in Saudi Arabia. Total isolation is not possible but we can't kill everyone.
This is a complicated situation. We don't really want to be the "world police". Russia and China do not want to lose their foothold in the Middle East and could retaliate if we have a preemptive strike (if Assad uses the chemical weapons). We have enough financial issues without taking on another war.
HOWEVER... "to whom much has been given, much is expected". Do you want to face your Maker on Judgement Day and explain how you could stand by and watch a lunatic kill women and children with poison gas when you had the power to say "stop now"????
They've been doing it with bombs and bullets and we've had no problem standing by.
An even better point to make in response to 55 would be to ask them what they have done for those women and children. We all meet our maker as individuals, not as a state. Does 55 think that posting a nice comment on a message board will save them, or will that require specific action on their part? Having an opinion to send our military does not make you good. It makes you opinionated.
But, yes, I also agree with the shorter explanation provided by charles. Either way, we should apply our principles in a consistent manner. If it was wrong in Iraq, it is wrong in Syria, Nepal, Russia, England and China.....where ever it may exist and by what ever means is used to murder.
Exactly what could the US do now that Obama is still in office? I don't think the Chinese are going to loan us money to kick their ass.
Which country is in worse condition?
Pakistan
Syria
Libya
Iraq
Egypt
N.Korea
Somalia
Assholistan
Southern Sudan?
And the Media said foreign policy was Obama's strong suit. LMFAO.
Nigeria, Yemen, Tunisia and Iran may file a complaint for being left off my list.
North Korea should be embarrassed. They are NUTS and not even Muslim.
Which country is in worse trouble..easy answer United States of America..Being led by an idiot, with the IQ of a mushroom.
Howdidwegethere========== Obama is not an idiot. He is a bright man who simply has a different vision for the future of our society. He doesn't embrace a free , capitalistic people. He embraces major limits on freedom and capitalism and unfortunately he has millions and millions of Americans who share this view.
Should he prevail , our longstanding system and culture will be radically altered with Big Brother playing a much greater role in our lives. Time will tell what evolves but it doesn't look good at this time.
All great civilizations eventually have fallen and many from within. If this happens to us we will have only ourselves to blame. Unfortunately , many Americans actually pine for disgrace and ruin to befall us and they may get their wish.
OOh...! Tough talk. Don't use chemical weapons. Wow. First we'll huff and puff, then carefully attack your country trying not to hurt anyone. Then we'll rebuild your nation in its entirety, arm it to the teeth, and then apologize about our terrible behavior. If you want to behead some women....go ahead, we don't mind.
So...take that!
Don't forget that we also support you shooting your teenage girls when they want to be educated. Just don't try to police your own country.
Want to prevent us from going to war in Syria just activate the DRAFT ! This country would explode overnite in protest. The draft should be equal, men and women age 18-35, no deferments.
I was just thinking the same thing. Could the draft be re-implemented in the next 4 years? I don't think it's out of the question.
Only the party who's prez is in should be sent to combat.
All of these are very good solutions.....let's all put some skin in the game and see how we vote then.
The Draft is a great idea, but too many will get out of serving. Look at Joe Biden and Dick Cheney.
Only the honest and those not smart enough to lie will get drafted.
We have plenty of assets in area? The same assets we used in Libya to rescue the ambassador? Oh yeah we didn't use them so our credibility is believable? Naive really naive.
We didn't even use force to protect an embassy. So how logical are Obama's threats to Assad?