Defense chief: Intel 'raises serious concerns' about Syria chemical weapons

The world is watching Syria very closely, worried that a desperate Bashir al-Assad might use his chemical weapons against his own people or his neighbors. The U.S. and other nations have warned Assad against launching a chemical attack, but they consider a preemptive strike against Assad's weapons to be high-risk. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

U.S. Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta said Thursday that intelligence about Syrian chemical weapons "raises serious concerns" that the regime of Bashar Assad may use them against the country's own citizens.


"The whole world is watching, the whole world is watching very closely," Panetta said. "And the president of the United States has made it very clear, there will be consequences — there will be consequences if the Assad regime makes the terrible mistake by using these chemical weapons on their own people."

His comments came a day after U.S. officials told NBC News that the Syrian military had loaded the precursor chemicals for sarin, a deadly nerve gas, into aerial bombs that could be dropped from dozens of fighter-bombers. The defense chief, who was speaking at a news conference at the Department of Veterans Affairs, would not elaborate on what the potential consequences would be. 


A member of the regime in Damascus, however, dismissed the assertions Thursday, saying he feared the United States and other Western powers could be trying to find a "pretext for intervention" in Syria's civil war, Reuters reported.

Sarin is an extraordinarily lethal agent. Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's forces killed 5,000 Kurds with a single sarin attack on Halabja in 1988.

Assad's deputy foreign minister Faisal Maqdad said Thursday that they would never kill Syrians with chemical weapons, dismissing the Western intelligence reports as "theater."

"Syria stresses again, for the tenth, the hundredth time, that if we had such weapons, they would not be used against its people. We would not commit suicide," Maqdad said, according a Reuters report that cited his comments on Lebanon's Al Manar television, the voice of the pro-Assad Hezbollah movement.

"In fact, we fear a conspiracy ... by the United States and some European states, which might have supplied such weapons to terrorist organizations in Syria, in order to claim later that Syria is the one that used these weapons," he added.

"We fear there is a conspiracy to provide a pretext for any subsequent interventions in Syria by these countries that are increasing pressure on Syria," he said.

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Children run along a street damaged by what activists said was a Syrian Air Force airstrike in the Aleppo district of Salaheddine on Wednesday.

 

Panetta echos Obama 'red line' warning
"The intelligence we have raises serious concerns"  that Damascus was considering using chemical weapons, Panetta said Thursday.

"Without commenting on the specific intelligence ... we remain very concerned, very concerned that as the opposition advances, in particular on Damascus, that the regime might very well consider the use of chemical weapons." 

A group of United States senators, including John McCain, discuss reports that the Syrian government has begun to prepare chemical weapons.

Obama and other NATO leaders have warned that using chemical weapons would cross a red line and have consequences, which they have not specified.

Four U.S. Senators on Thursday urged President Obama to send a strong message to Assad.

"We urge the President of the United States to make whatever military preparations are necessary to show Assad that the United States is fully willing and able to impose the consequences that he has spoken of in the event these weapons are used," said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz), speaking first. "For deterrence to work it must be based on a credible threat."

He appeared with Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.), Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.) and Sen. Lindsay Graham (R-S.C.).

"We are all saying to President Obama, who has stated that there will be drastic consequences for Assad and his government if they use chemical and biological weapons, we’re with you," said Lieberman. "There’s strong support across Congress if the president takes the strong action that’s necessary to prevent a very, very — historically horrific — humanitarian disaster in Syria. 

There are limited options for military intervention by the United States in Syria. It has one of the most robust air defense systems in the world — supplied by key ally Russia — but one option could be sending cruise missiles to attack regime targets.

Pentagon sources tell NBC News that the Syrian military is awaiting final orders to launch chemical weapons against its own people after precursor chemicals for deadly sarin gas were loaded into aerial bombs. NBC's Jim Miklaszewski reports.

Germany's cabinet approved stationing Patriot anti-missile batteries on Turkey's border with Syria, a step requiring deployment of NATO troops that Syria fears could permit the imposition of a no-fly zone over its territory.

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The 20-month-old battle between Assad and opposition forces has claimed more than 40,000 lives.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton met in Dublin on Thursday with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and international Syria mediator Lakhdar Brahimi to try to restart a U.N. peace process for Syria. Prior to the meeting, she said she expected to raise the chemical weapons threat.

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Clinton has said that in addition to the possible use of chemical bombs by "an increasingly desperate" Assad, Washington was concerned about the government losing control of such weapons to extreme Islamist armed groups among the rebel forces.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton echoed President Obama's recent vow to take action if Syrian President Bashar Assad uses chemical weapons during the ongoing clashes within his country. U.S. officials are also concerned about the rising influence of extremist groups within Syria. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

U.S. officials said Washington was considering blacklisting Jabhat al-Nusra, an influential rebel group accused by other rebels of indiscriminate tactics that has advocated an Islamic state in Syria and is suspected to have ties to al-Qaida.

In other developments reported by Reuters:

  • Syrian state TV said a\n explosion in front of the Damascus headquarters of the Syrian Arab Red Crescent killed at least one person on Thursday.
  • Activists said the army pummeled several eastern suburbs of Damascus, where the rebels are dominant, with artillery and mortar fire. The suburbs have been cut off from the city's water and electricity for weeks, rebels say, accusing the government of collective punishment.
  • Rebels say they have surrounded an air base two-and-a-half miles from the center of Damascus, a fresh sign the battle is closing in on the Syrian capital.
  • Rebels said they were battling soldiers on the road to Damascus International Airport, 12 miles out of the capital, where several airlines have canceled flights due to security concerns.

Maqdad, in his interview on Thursday, argued that reports of such advances were untrue. "What is sad is that foreign countries believe these repeated rumors," he said. Rebel and state claims about the military situation cannot be verified independently. But residents inside the capital say the sound of shelling on the outskirts has become a constant backdrop. 

Reuters contributed to this report.

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Pretext? Oh, yeah. He means like using sarin gas on fellow Syrians.

    Reply#27 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:32 PM EST

    start throwing that gas around and stop talking. let these scum rid each other from their misery.

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    Reply#28 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:32 PM EST

    If Assad falls it's the end of the secular Palestinian Authority in the West Bank, the end for King Abdullah the Hashemite in Jordan and Israel will have Hamas or its Islamist allies on all sides.

    After the advent of Morsi in Egypt and the attack in Benghazi we have learned to be circumspect about who to support in that part of the world.

      Reply#29 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:33 PM EST

      We should have learned that after the Shaw of Iran, Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Ladin, Karzai, Morsi, Assad.....

        #29.1 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:40 PM EST

        Don't be worried about Israel. They have a plan to build more illegal settler's houses, that should calm things down for them, right?

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        #29.2 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:45 PM EST

        Ya Tex2c2, your on it. building some condo's equates to mass murder in Syria, riots killing people in Eygpt, Benghazi, Lebanon on the brink with Pro Syrian fighters battling, riots breaking out all over Middle East.

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        #29.3 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 7:16 PM EST

        Right on, MC. And y'all can learn to spell cuz that's the Shah of Eye-ran not the "Shaw".

        Anyways, the Shah was a profoundly conservative figure not one of the winds of change we saw arise during the "Arab spring". None other than Assad warned that the Arab spring would bring not democracy but chaos. He's batting 1000 in the predictions department.

        The overthrow of Mubarak and the military has only exposed the deep divisions in Egyptian society: the educated versus the primitive; the religious versus the secular; urbanites against villagers.

          #29.4 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 8:33 PM EST
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          Ben Ghazi..?

          Wasn't He that anorexic Indian Mahut..?

          You know ..played The Bugle ..in Gunga-Din..?

          Remember the SPONTANEOUS Camel Charge..?

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          Reply#30 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:34 PM EST

          And, the false flag begins. It truly amazes me just how gullible are the American people!

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          Reply#31 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:34 PM EST

          Amen. This one's playing out like a broken record - completely transparent - and the same sheeple are falling for the same old tricks.

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          #31.1 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:36 PM EST
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          Look for the false flag.

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          Reply#32 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:36 PM EST

          Finally. The smart ones are coming out of the woodwork. They'll shut this board down soon if we keep it up.

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          #32.1 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:37 PM EST

          It is funny how that happens. Anything going against propaganda is discontinued. The article re appears under a new headline...

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          #32.2 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:41 PM EST

          That is so true. I've been polluting the message boards this morning with anything that has to do with this Syria hogwash. Some more people join me - and BAM, just like you said.....same story, different headline, new message board, and not on the top headlines.

          • 3 votes
          #32.3 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:48 PM EST

          As we speak the headline has been changed. LOL!

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          #32.4 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 3:23 PM EST
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          NBC is the Obama Pulit Bureau

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          Reply#33 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:37 PM EST

          BREAKING NEWS..

          To Counter The Threat posed by ASSAD ..and his Threat of Chemicals..

          Hillary Clinton ..has responded..

          Under orders from President Obama..

          the U.S. Airforce will Begin Dropping..

          Canisters of LAUGHING GAS..filled into CHEVY VOLTS..All over ASSAD's Damascus Palaces..

          • 4 votes
          Reply#34 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:38 PM EST

          And once again the pig phucers from the usa can not mind their own business

          • 2 votes
          Reply#35 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:38 PM EST

          Hello Assad.

          • 3 votes
          #35.1 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:41 PM EST

          You're very Fruit-king...silly

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          #35.2 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:52 PM EST
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          This problem exposes another major failure of the Bush years. Our credibility can be easily questioned now because the world knew and still remembers the lies used by Bush and Cheney as phony pretexts to go into Iraq. Of course, regimes of propaganda, lies, and war crimes (like Israel, Hamas Palestine, Iran, and Syria) can make up anything they think will give them a little wiggle room, but now the world listens with a little more interest when they do.

          I wonder if the fascist, American, Neo-con sympathizers realize how much damage they did? That would require getting past denial and ignorance so I guess they will not.

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          Reply#36 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:40 PM EST

          What are you talking about? The current administration is doing the exact same thing - and it doesn't matter - that $hit you're talking about is history - ancient history at that. Ever read 1984? Big Brothers' making a speech and he actually changes his lies DURING the speech - and the crowd roars - because they're so brain-washed, they didn't even remember what he was saying at the beginning of the speech.

          I hate the partisan lines - it's divide-and-conquer. Over half the people on this board are arguing dem/repub ideology and demagoguery - same old $hit. Meanwhile, the administration - operated by the same elites who have remained in control - will continue feeding us lies, causing false flags, and ram-rodding their foreign policy down our throats: A foreign policy that makes a lot of money for a small amount of people.

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          #36.1 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:46 PM EST

          Only one response for this, You are full of it and I wanted to use the other word. Spend your life blaming someone who is not in office. He has no control of decisions in Washington. Come from under your rock and join the real world. You all went to the polls and refused to fire the people who have done nothing for us, the American people, so now, live with it and place the blame where it will lie. If we get involved in Syria and more military members die, it is the fault of the CURRENT administration!

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          #36.2 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:49 PM EST

          gunner,

          I am simply pointing out the obvious before it gets covered up with bull-sh!t from the right. Yours is a predictable and classic response by someone who has no use for history. Sorry, if i stepped on your toes for pointing out that actions by the ignorant have consequences for the future. LMAO

          Kyle,

          I tend to agree that the world of politics is dominated by politicians who are not always able to take interest in the best outcome for the people they represent, but who can deny that the Bush (read Big Oil) policy of lies goes way beyond the norm in that ugly game?

            #36.3 - Fri Dec 7, 2012 8:06 AM EST
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            A Child's Prayer

            From Afghanistan..

            Sung at Sundown..

            "This is my A-K.....There are Many like it ..but this one is mine..."

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            Reply#37 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:45 PM EST

            Thank God Foreign Policy is Obama's strong suit.

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            Reply#38 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:45 PM EST

            "There is Light..at the End of the Tunnel.."

            No..No General or politico said that..It was... a proctologist...

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            Reply#39 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:48 PM EST

            Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's forces killed 5,000 Kurds with a single sarin attack on Halabja in 1988

            How can this be? There were no Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. Remember?!?!? YEAH, right.

            Now back to the story:

            WE don't need a pretext to intervene we just have to want to...or something LIKE that.

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            Reply#40 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 1:00 PM EST

            Stay out of Syria - not our business and can only lead to additional animosity towards us.

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            Reply#41 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 1:01 PM EST

            More US ( selling Hussein the chems to use against Iran in the 1980s ) lies about Syria. The US-Israeli Axis of Weasels wants control of Syria.

              Reply#42 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 1:02 PM EST

              NATO........Big talk, little do. When all is said and done, more is said than done.

                Reply#43 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 1:03 PM EST

                Hey! Keep it Over THERE! I'm all set with this Mideast BULLSHlT!

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                Reply#44 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 1:03 PM EST

                Assad better be afraid. We are going to put the fearsome obambo's boots on the ground in Syria. Obambo took out osama bin laden all by himself so now he is going to take out assad in the same manner. Stay tuned to your favorite liberal news station to get all the details of the single handed raid performed by the great obambo. He will disarm the gas weapons of mass distruction and take out assad. Can I get a "HOORAH" from all the liberal barack hussein lovers out there?

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                Reply#45 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 1:11 PM EST

                BREAKING NEWS

                President OBAMA

                Seeks to Nominate...ANNA WNTOUR...

                The New Secretary of Fashion...for The United States

                • 1 vote
                Reply#46 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 1:23 PM EST

                Ali, go outside and play, these are adults talking.

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                #46.1 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 2:53 PM EST
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                Just let the muslims kill each other... We don't need to be involved in this crap! If our politicians want to go to war in syria let them lead the way and send their kids in the first wave, we have lost too many of our men and women in Iraq and Afghanistan, no muslim country is worth anymore american lives, let the cowards fight for their own country..

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                Reply#47 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 1:23 PM EST

                We've done more than enough since 2001. The U.S. needs to be out of the world police business. Let the rest of the lazy-ass free world take care of Syria. We've propped up too many sovereign counties defense budgets for too long. We sure as hell don't need to involve ourselves, one more time, in the @!$%# that spews from the middle east. If the rest of the world doesn't care enough to do anything, let the loving, caring, peace mongers kill themselves off.

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                Reply#48 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 1:24 PM EST

                The Syrians are totally correct. This tactic is as old as dirt. Create the problem then step in and solve it.

                  Reply#49 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 1:30 PM EST

                  This is rich, if Obama goes into Syria to stop the use of chemical weapons with say airstrikes he's looking for a pretext for war like Iraq, if he doesn't do anything and Syrian chemical weapons end up in the hands of Islamic extremists he's also failed.

                  Look people, you can't have it both ways.

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                  Reply#50 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 1:34 PM EST

                  Yes we can. Stay out of it altogether and who gives a crap? All of you idiots will blame President Bush anyway. There is no one to blame except the idiot that drops the gas.

                    #50.1 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 10:52 PM EST

                    Yes we can. Stay out of it altogether and who gives a crap?

                    You do apparently.

                      #50.2 - Fri Dec 7, 2012 2:12 AM EST
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                      I smell a world war in the making! Let's vaporize some folks starting in Iran and Syria. Let's really see who our friends are and who just wants our money. I'm tired of being the world's favorite whipping boy. If we're to blame for everything, maybe we should earn that distinction.

                        Reply#51 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 1:35 PM EST

                        Two well placed nukes kept anyone from F*cking with us for a very long time. I am tired of it as well .....

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                        #51.1 - Thu Dec 6, 2012 1:43 PM EST
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