There's no telling we didn't nail the first one.

Seems like a long way for warships to go just to view NK's latest deep sea exploration.

Actually, NK has a large standing army, and also, we should be concerned about potential ballistic missiles coming out of nations that don't like us.

Peel-Layer (aka Biotch)-

A nuclear weapon coming from Korea would have about the same effect as one coming from Russia.

Peel-layer is a developmentally-challenged twat, and he knows it. So does everyone else.

I personally like when we show off, yes we are the best and baddest.Fluck what NK thinks and any other twit.

@ Denver Bill 2

Are you actually a retired joke writer for one of the late night shows? I swear I get more laughs reading your posts than any newspaper comic strip.

Enjoy reading you everyday. Keep up the good work!

Bill D.

U.S. will wait until the North actually fires a nuke.

North Korea would make a great Islamic Country.

Two or three pre-emptive nuclear strikes, and the North Koreans wouldn't have a pot to piss in, funny how people aren't willing to actually attack North Korea, UNLESS they attack first, do the math if they construct a nuke and aim it at Seol.

Then of course, expect a whole bunch of tears and "If we only would have known...."

How hard would it really be and of course benificial to say:

" The satillite rocket that N. Korea planned to launch, was in fact, a bollistic missile. However, in their attempt to launch said missile, there was what appeared to be an explosion and the entire facility has been destroyed. Plans for a world wide clean up will be underway and the United States will gladly be the first on site to aide with the clean up."

Of course we need to be the first one's in, to remove any evidence......

Flo - first thing that I thought about too. Airborne and possibly ship based versions. No one would be the wiser. I wouldn't be surprised at all if we have a repeat of the "failure" that the first launch had.

It is time

So what, even if NK fires this off we will nothing , just as if Syria fires off a Chemical weapon....we don't have the stomach for this $hit anymore..

Peel Layer has some serious learning to do.

I think this is more of a threat to Japan.

Okeeboy

Are you actually a retired joke writer for one of the late night shows? I swear I get more laughs reading your posts than any newspaper comic strip.

Nope. Just a run of the mill curmudgeon.

Enjoy reading you everyday. Keep up the good work!

Bill D.

Thank you. BillS

Peel-Layer: We are afraid of Assad and Russia Who are our size in strength but, we will jump on the little guy as soon as he flinch.

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Total bullcrap. Just one of our "Ohio" class subs could fry both Syria and Russia, and we have 18 of them.

By the way, we are not picking on NK, just watching them. I get the impression you just enjoy sounding mentally challenged.

denver bill 2,

More than likely your predicted outcome is correct, but I guess we do have to be concerned that they (NK) just might get lucky and do something right for a change, or worse yet, their missile might end up headed for an excavating job in Japan or the Phillipines, as they say, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

....and our rail gun is where?

....and our rail gun is where?

Why didn't we send Carnival Cruise Lines to this. At least we could have made some money off it.

A nuclear weapon coming from Korea would have about the same effect as one coming from Russia.

Not really. Not even close, actually. Russia has had decades to improve their ballistic missile designs. They have MIRV tech (where one missile carries up to ten independently-targeted warheads), they have submarine-based missiles, and they've had years to watch and study to try and beat our interceptor systems.

Korea, on the other hand, is still trying to get their first rocket off the ground. They probably haven't even thought yet about how to defeat our missile defense systems, because they're still trying to defeat the engineering problem of flying a metal tube using a giant plume of fire. And their missile design isn't even what you would want for a good ICBM: instead of a solid-fuel rocket, which is always ready to fire at the touch of a button, they're building a liquid-fueled rocket, which has to be gassed up before launch (a slow and very visible process) and so can't really be used for a surprise strike.

So no. A nuke launched by Russia is a much bigger problem than one launched by NK.

Sadly, the ABL program was cancelled.

It reminds me of when the westerners went to go after slaves.

They had greater weaponry and only picked on those who could not defend themselves...

Could the troll-sign be any more plain?

If you go actually read the UN Resolution (here the wiki link --- the full text is in a link at the bottom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1718 ) you will find that it bans only nuclear tests and BALLISTIC missile tests. Period. If you know anything about rocketry, you will know that a rocket carrying an orbital payload is NOT a ballistic missile. A ballistic leaves Earth, arcs high, and the payload impacts the ground by gravity. Not defending, just saying that the North Koreans can state that this is not a ballistic missile and is thus not banned. Even the article says that the US objects "because of the nature of the type of missile that they will be firing and the implications it has for ballistic-type of activity somewhere down the road." This is specious reasoning at best.

Another point that keeps being missed is that multi-stage liquid-fuel rockets are not good candidates for carrying nuclear weapons. They simply require so much time and resources to build, assemble, fuel, and fire that the process takes around six weeks (though it could be shortened to about 10 days in a rush.) That's six weeks in which the US could launch a single Tomahawk missile and take it out. That is simply not the way that military ICBMs are done.

A three stage rocket is nine times as likely to fail as a single-stage rocket. Liquid-fueled rockets are 40 times as likely to fail as solid-fueled rockets.

The missile is being fired into polar orbit. Polar orbit is good for satellites because eventually the satellite will come over every spon on the Earth. What is used for ICBMs is direct sub-orbital launch which fires in the direction of the target, taking the Earth's rotation into account.

Yes, North Korea will learn a great deal about guidance systems, propulsion systems, tracking systems, etc that might be put to use "down the road" but you can say that about almost anything technological. The truth is that North Korea is in about the 1960's from a technology standpoint. They lack the scientific infrastructure (which requires massive and free international exchanges of ideas) to even exploit the rocket launch more than to a tiny degree. That is what the writers are saying when they say "the telemetry is sparse" in the April launch. Sparse telemetry means sparse science and much more reliance on trial-and-error, which usually involves more error than trial.

Modern GPS systems have pretty much simplified guidance systems to the upper-level high school level. The old inertial systems are a ting of the past.

All this drum-beating about the North Koreans trying to launch a satellite is foolish. A satellite would increase their international prestige among "bad boy" states and would undoubtedly provide considerable cachet for their arms sales (which are huge.) But as a military threat ---- forget it. It's not worth losing sleep over.

What we have to watch is North Korea's links with Iran, Syria, and Pakistan. North Korea has exchanged nuclear technology with all three. And North Korea has sold arms to all three. But more importantly North Korea has been advising Iran on how to harden their military target sites against US strikes. North Korea is considered to have the world's most sophisticated technology in this area and are undoubtedly the most hardened military country in the world with literally thousands of hardened revetments, peek-and-shoot gun emplacements, depots, command and control, and decoys (which must be treated as real sites.) But in return Iran is providing North Korea with considerable assistance with sophisticated modern solid-fuel rocket technology. This technology exchange could easily put a real military ICBM into North Korea's hands.

who cares...let them do what ever they want. Stop controlling everything...you end up controlling nothing! America thinks it has control but it actually does nothing to improve lives,;this has been tested and now we see an all time high in Islamic rule...if history repeats its self, NK will just get bigger the more we try to stop them...our attempts for the last 22 yrs has done nothing except fortify Islam and evil doers. This "warning" will only open NK up to allegiance with Islam....just like everything else for the last 22 yrs.

There are more plans to attack Iran or Syria than N. Korea; there are not real plans to attack Russia or China.

Chris - a ballistic trajectory is one in which gravity takes over for part or all of the flight. Orbital flights are indeed ballistic flights, as gravity is integral to something being in orbit. The only non-ballistic missiles are ones that remain powered for their entire trajectory - air-to-air missiles, cruise missiles, shoulder-fired rockets, etc.

And if you can put something in orbit, you can most definitely put something in a targeted suborbital trajectory. That's no more specious reasoning than assuming someone can drive with an automatic transmission if you've seen them drive stick. Suborbital is a lot easier - remember, there were targeted suborbital rockets in 1944 (the v2), 13 years before Sputnik.

Hello folks, who died and made us King of the World? We are the bully's on this planet! It should be no wonder why most countries despise us, we can't mind our own business. This whole idea that we have to police the world is illogical and idiotic.

@yeah,

But you are splitting hairs. And you are wrong about the definition of a ballistic missile. Here is the definition the UN used: "Ballistic missile - a missile that is guided in the first part of its flight but falls freely as it approaches target." The definition depends on gravity "taking over" during the terminal part of the flight.

With orbital launches, the idea is to achieve speeds that use centrifugal force to defeat gravity. There is no "terminal flight" and no intentional contact with Earth.

You could just as easily make the case that any computer, or even a handheld GPS, or even building an automobile would yield technology that could be used in a ballistic missile. And you still have the problem of thrown stones ....

The problem, if you read the UN Resolution, is that the resolution concerned itself only with weapons of mass destruction, nuclear testing, and military ballistic missiles. Trying to go back and say, "What we really meant was this" is indeed specious.

Actually, from a military targeting standpoint, sub-orbital is exactly twice as hard. To launch a satellite, you essentially shoot through three "windows" that must be hit at a correct speed and attitude. To launch a sub-orbital ICBM, you must shoot through six windows, except that you have zero control over the final three. That's why the Apollo capsules returning from orbit were far more accurate in their landing than the Friendship capsules.

Happy missile hunting!

Orbit is freefall. An orbital flight is a guided boost phase followed by gravity taking over and the payload falling freely. Whether or not its target is a spot on land or an orbital altitude doesn't change that. And no, one couldn't make the case that any handheld GPS is building towards a ballistic missile. Having a GPS and only a GPS doesn't give you the capability to fire a ballistic missile. However, having an orbital launch system and only an orbital launch system does give you the capability to fire a ballistic missile, because it's the same thing - in fact it's a more advanced version of the thing.

And you should actually look up the miss-distance stats before you bring them up. They're on wikipedia, on the "Splashdown (spacecraft landing)" page. Freedom 7 and Liberty Bell 7, the two suborbital Mercury flights, missed by about 5 and about 10 km, respectively. Discounting the ones with problems/emergencies during landing, nearly all the other Mercury and Gemini flights (all orbital) missed by between 5 and 15 km. When we started hitting around only 1 km away with Apollo, it was because of the upgraded guidance and telemetry equipment on the new capsule, not because of the dynamics of orbital flight.

You are still splitting hairs. The military definition of a ballistic missile still requires that it hit the ground in unguided flight.

And you're wrong about the Gemini/Apollo flights as well. They had an offset distance of 5km (meaning that no ship could come closer than 5km to the splashdown so as not to interfere with the helicopters who needed to attack flotation gear. But the surface ships also had over an hour to maneuver towards the splashdown. This was not so with the suborbital flights, so you are comparing apples to oranges. n.b. The great exception was Apollo 11. Because Apollo 11 was unable to power much of its telemetry, the ranging information for the ships was close to non-existent and they had to depend on their own radars only. The Apollo 11 craft was so dead on that the recovery carrier actually had to move away to get the right standoff. Had it not moved, Apollo 11 could well have hit the carrier. But that was an accident and not intentional.

And I re-iterate --- there is NO military value to a three-stage liquid-fueled missile fored into polar orbit. Period. The rest, including yours, is just needless hysteria. The North Korean scientific infrastructure is so poor that they cannot fully exploit the technology they have without help. You actually have amateur rocket clubs in the US that are considerably more advanced than North Korea for this very reason. They have access to the internet, to other clubs, and to scientific research. Except for financial reasons, it is well within the reach of amaters in the US to launch a satellite similar to that being launched by NK. It's the infrastructure that makes all the difference.

I'm not the one trying to circumvent a UN mandate by saying "but ours is different because we're pointing it a different direction!" That's you splitting hairs, not me. It's the same tech. If a country were making Sarin, would it be OK if they promised to only use it on cockroaches?

Regarding the splashdown stuff - I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say. Where the surface ships were relative to the target zone has nothing to do with how far the capsules missed their target zone by. You said that the suborbital flights were more inaccurate than the orbital flights, and I provided data showing they had pretty equivalent levels of inaccuracy. You can't get mad at me for comparing apples to oranges if you've just asserted that your apples are bigger than my oranges.

As for the final point: I agree with you that liquid-fueled rockets have limited military value (I even said so in a post above). That doesn't mean they have zero military value. And the orbit they fire this one into doesn't matter. If they can achieve a polar orbit, they can achieve a ground-target trajectory just as easily.

Glad your back Trust!! Tsk, Tsk, tsk . . .Naughty Boy . . You got Suspended for Bad Behavior . . Naughty, Naughty Boy!!!

Hello GayGuy, thanks! There are a lot of innocent people who can't stand up for themselves and I try to be a conduit for them, sometimes the ignorance gets a little frustrating, but who's perfect?

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Having been stationed in Korea on the DMZ a couple of times i can honestly say these North Koreans are truely insane.They dig huge tunnels under the DMZ for miles to get to the south.There have been many incidents and firefights on the DMZ since 1956.Anyone who has ever been stationed up on the DMZ knows that sooner or later we are going to have to fight these crazies because quitting is not in their vocabulary.Even now they are looking for a reason or an excuse,Something to give them the edge to reignite the cease fire.There never was a peace treaty signed.

I was stationed up there as well, wolfhound27 as a Platoon Leader and Company XO and it is far too simplistic to call them "crazy" and "insane" without a better understanding of the geopolitics involved.

Cappy,

When the fecal matter hits the oscillating device, time spent conjecturing about who turned on the fan is time wasted.

Cappy i save my most detailed information for passing down a BDE OPORD.If you really feel the need for more information on the matter i will have to consult my J2 and J3 sections.(I am sure you are aware of their jobs already)Thankyou, U4V06 out.

Tax money being sent as foreign aid? Nope. Wrong.

Tax money is used for one thing and one thing only. It pays the interest on the governments' loans from the Federal Reserve Bank. The Federal Reserve Bank is a privately owned entity that has nothing to do with the government other than being its financier. The federal Reserve was created (illegally) at the turn of the twentieth century along with the guaranteed method of repaying a perpetual interest rate. That method is known as the Federal Income Tax on wages. The citizens of this nation were sold into slavery to twelve private banks, collectively known as The Federal Reserve. It was voted on by a congress in recess with only a select few reps present at the time. Hence, the illegality of it.

herb

so where does it come from the money fairy

Herb, that's nice, been waiting to get that off your chest, feel better, now how about getting back to the article?

@wolfhound and @cappy,

There is a reason that the 20,000 or so American troops and the 120,000 or so ROKA troops along the DMZ are called "tripwire" or "sacrificial" forces and never appear on an Order of Battle. It is because in a real shooting match, those forces would be rendered combat ineffective in around 15 minutes. The only hope is that enough men and equipment could survive and re-organize to create some pockets of resistance to slow the NKA until reinforcements could come from the CONUS and Europe. Not many Battle Plans really consider this possible. That's why there are so many contingency plans that involve re-invasion from Japan. Just saying ....

And for the idea that "2 or 3" nuclear weapons would do anything, that is pure laughs. All major North Korean facilities are nuclear-hardened. It is likely that 2 or 3 nukes would only yield minor casualties at best. People vastly over-rate the ability of nukes to do more than destroy large numbers of unprotected civilians.

I have to disagree that NK is the "real threat". They're paranoid and dangerous, certainly, but they've been beating the same war drum my entire life. Both they and our officials know the geopolitical dance. Iran and Pakistan are more complex and still evolving.

Killing higher-ranked officers isn't necessarily a bad thing. NK's military is extremely powerful and extremely corrupt. If change is ever going to occur (not that I'm suggesting that it will), then it will almost certainly involve several high-level executions or at least exiles.

Yes TUPF, This is free target practice if we look towards the positive side.........

and we get to whip out the credit card AGAIN

Bah, I just hope they have a good view to watch it splash down somewhere in the South China sea.

If you're not currently serving in the military, you are of age and you feel strongly that "we" need to stop Iran, feel free to join and be part of the solution.

I am an American sir. "Together we stand divided we fall". As an american I have the right to say "we" all day long. Maybe you would not mind waking up to Tel Aviv in ashes sir, but I sure as hell would.

Then by all means, feel free to hop on the next plane to Tehran, grab an M16 and go straighten everything out over there if it bothers you that much. Give Ahmadinejad, the Ayatollahs and the Mullahs over there a piece of your mind. Go for it. Bon voyage.

Let us know how you make out, will you? We'll be waiting on pins and needles back here for a report.

Coral Taxi....I could not care less about Tel Aviv in ashes, it ain't part of the United States. Unless you have dual citizenship, you shouldn't either.

@dejay/cappy;

Neither of you know me or what I have done what gives you the right to tell me when and where it is right to share my opinion, or anybodies for that matter? So every one who has not served here does not have a right to say what we should do?

Maybe we should all leave and let you and cappy talk.lol

Nothing personal, dude. I may be a bit sensitive but I get exhausted by saber rattling from people who don't have any skin in the game. It's like a woman who talks trash to the biggest guy in the bar about how her boyfriend will kick the crap out of him. Easy for her to talk big, she's not the one that is going to have to go home with bruises.

@cappy;

I do take it personal when people try to mute my opinion. Maybe you forgot what you served for. I will remind you , for our right to free speech. You will now try to mute me? Do not sit here and tell me not to take it personal.

You at every opportunity let people know about your service. I apprecaite your service. I do not appreciate you using it as a tool to silence the opinions of those who have not served. That is very condescending of you, and hypocritical of you. I can show 4 examples of how you have used your service to try to mute people, and more just to let it be known. This is the exact opposite reason of why you defended us. You do it here again on this vine. Here take a lesson sir.

Understand something about John McCain. His political advisers, day after day, had to take him and almost throw him against a wall and hit him against the head and say, “Senator, you have to let people know you served! You have to talk about what you did!” He didn’t want to do it, wouldn’t do it. Day after day they had to convince him. Finally, he talked a little bit about it, but it was very uncomfortable for him. That’s what’s so noble about our heroes. Now I’m running against a woman who, my God, that’s all she talks about. Our true heroes, it’s the last thing in the world they talk about. That’s why we’re so indebted and in awe of what they’ve done

Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Walsh-On-Duckworth-True-Heroes-Dont-Talk-About-Military-Service-161232055.html#ixzz2ENfeFEGi

Yes true heroes do not talk about there service. Like I said.

"Together WE stand ,divided WE fall"

. Do not ever again tell someone not say WE who is an American, like they do not count because they did not serve.

@ HOTTICKET;

You're quite right on that. WE will get suckered into yet ANOTHER illegal, immoral and unconstitutional Middle Eastern war where our guys get killed for absolutely NOTHING while the other "respectable" members of of the Useless Nations and NATO sit their dead a$$es on the sidelines and cheer while eating popcorn. So of course we won't go it alone.

So it is o.k for you to say "we" then even capitalize it, use it twice here. Then come here and bust on me for saying we? WOW you sir are also a hypocrite.

So of course we won't go it alone

What do you mean here by "we" sir? Are you going with them to the ME? Will you be on that same plane as you suggested I get on?

@Coral Taxi; This article is about North Korea, not Iran. Your opinion is not appropriate.

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@Coral,

I agree with your example, but McCain was a very poor choice. The primary reason that McCain did not talk about his time in the military is that mkost of it was pretty dishonorable. But he would never talk about his time as a POW. If you want to know why, google "John McCain Songbird" to find out why both US intelligence and the North Vietnamese called him the "songbird." Had McCain even appeared to have a snowball's chance of winning, there were ads made by POW/MIS families all ready to run that detailed his treason as a POW and why all POW/MIA families still hate him.

Why not use Kerry, who served honorably and was a decorated warrior?

@jupiter;

I was explaining how Iran could use the nuclear bomb for leverage(brinksmansip) and as a deterent for others to attack them if they lets say were accused by Saudi Arabia of executing a leader or whoever. The same way NK is. Saudis response would be muted the same way Ours and SKs response was muted with their NKs"alleged" attack on the sub, or their bombing of the islands off SK.

This is why we need to stop Irans Nuclear weapons program. Just having the bomb for brinksmanship and getting away with skirmishes agianst SK is way better than actually ever using it.

This very relevant.

@chris;

My point was simply it is not cool to constantly brag or announce your service. Should you be proud of it yes, should you constantly boast of it, not really.

Coral Taxi, when did I try and mute you? What I said was if you feel that strongly about Iran and that it shouldn't be allowed to have nukes, don't be a spectator. Have the courage of your convictions and be part of the solution. The military always needs people who feel strongly and want to serve their country. And you rarely hear me bring up my service in the Army. Only when it is appropriate to the conversation or when people like yourself start saber rattling. And every time its the same thing: If you feel strongly about our country committing troops to combat, don't talk about it, be about it. You sure are sensitive for someone so ballsy.

And you rarely hear me bring up my service in the Army.

Oh really, well how about the time where you explain you left the miltary to relieve stress on your family. How about the time you went on to say you motivated 197 out of 200 men in SK to register to vote absentee. How about today, then there are three others where you attack the poster in the same vane as you did me here today.

Go ahead deny it and I will post each of them to show how you have no right to tell me how to act. You are saying I am wrong to say we, which to me is discounting my voice my opinion, telling me I have no right to say it. If that is not trying to mute my opinion I do not know what is

These are admirable reasons and accomplishments. with the exception of when you use it to call others out for what they say, but these are not the only times you bring up your service, but three off the bat should suffice, On top of the other 4 including the one on me today .

when people like yourself start saber rattling

Saying we need to take out Irans nuke institutions is a must, not sabre rattling. We will not need boots on the ground for this..

You sure are sensitive for someone so ballsy.

You can call me names all day, say I am crazy whatever does not phase me. When someone calls me out for stating what action I feel needs to be taken on an evil regime saying I have no right because I am personally not going over there to do it, that I have no right as an American to share a certain opinion, then I will come back on you twice as hard, to stop you from continuing with your rhetoric on others.

I will tell you if it were coming from some copy and paste nut job it would not bother me as much, probably would not even answer to it, but coming from one of our rational veterans it bothers me to no end. We the people, not them and us, WE as Americans.

Your service is appreciated, your coming down on others that did not serve saying they have no right to say what they would like to see done is not.

Last time I checked they were not taking 44 yr olds.lol

steve, you are right. The world continues to gear up for a war somewhere and too many say "we must just stay out of it". I guess when obama goes to Hawaii they feel safer!! Why be concerned!!

@steve;

Obama is right on top of all that is happening in the world from anywhere in the world. Will you cancel your plans this weekend because the world is in turmoil? Well let me tell you, if you start this trend you will never have a weekend off. Capish?

The dumbed down voting public get what they deserve.

Yes our continued security and safety. We are on top of this. Should Obama pull a "Putin" and steer the battleship there himself?lol Would that make you happy sir?

The world continues to gear up for a war somewhere and too many say "we must just stay out of it".

Yeah. Just imagine. If you had listened to us peace-nick hippies eleven years ago, we wouldn't be in the sh1t that we are today with these third world cat litter boxes. Go figure.

B.T.W. - How did the Iraq and Afghanistan half-cocked cowboy thing work out there, bud?

(Eyes roll)

In fairness to the President ....As much as do not agree with his policies ......He never has a "day off"

In fairness to everyone concerned.Would'nt it be better to have our leader leading from the front instead of the back 9?

Oh, and where was Bush the ENTIRE month of August 2001 (you know, just before 9/11)? That's right, he was on vacation in Texas. The now infamous PDB "Bin Laden Determined To Strike in US" that warned of Al-Qaida's intent to fly planes into buildings was presented on Aug. 6. Despite the threat of an imminent terrorist attack, good ol' Dubya was down on the ranch and didn't feel the need to return to work.

It's easy to point fingers at those you hate when you deny the actions of those you support.

Thanks for lumping all of us into your opinion there Steve. Not all of us voted for Obama or Romney.

So saying that we are all dumb as a collective of voters is kind of ludicrous as well as an outright lie.

What agenda are you pushing with your propaganda?

Hey Herb .....Just curious ....Who did you vote for... Rosanne Barr ?

He was at work rswall, even while down at the ranch. And yes there were dots, but not enough of them to connect. Should Bush's administration have had guards at every terminal for every flight and detain and question everyone who looked Middle Eastern. No, I don't think so.

I guess North Korea is like israel worring about the UN.

GD people..I am SO sick of hearing the left bit*h and moan about Iraq and Afghanistan...Iraq was one thing, but do you idiots even know WHY we were in Afghanistan? Have you forgotten or just don't care and love the fact that the Taliban/AlQaeda attacked the US? Remember that day or were you too young/stoned/stupid to care?

Obama's right on top of his vacation, just like he was on benghazi, ASLEEP!!! He did wake up long enough to fire one of his generals who wanted to help the ambassador and his people in benghazi!!!!! He doesn't know squat because he's too busy trying to figure out what song is gonna play at his inaugural ball or his next weekly party at the white house!!! Which by the way, we can't afford, but he will spend the money anyway. He feels he deserves to be treated as the king!!! Can't believe the number of welfare recipients who voted him in so they can get thier oooobaaaama phones! Lets not forget the special interest groups, anything to pander for votes!! obama is not gonna protect us from anyone in the middle east. If anything he will side with them.... just like he did with benghazi!!!!!! Read his book people, it's right there in black and white.

That is exactly who is in range.

California RIP ~ Red Hot Chili Peppers

Pft. If they can't hit space, what chance do they have to hit us?

Besides, I can't help but wonder what they think it would accomplish. So they nuke Cali. Then what? What's going to stop us from turning their entire country into a parking lot?

NK with rockets; Syria with biological WMDs...damn you Mayans!!

And those WMD's first belonged to Saddam..Assad was holding them for his bro' and now threatens to use them on his own people.

I think NK is launching Unicorns!!

The Mayans couldn't predict their own doom at the hands of a people they didn't know existed, I doubt they could predict the end of the world over a millennia later.

Maybe they did, and maybe they didn't. We wouldn't know since most of their writings were destroyed by the army of invading priests. Because you know, they were the devils work.

Sorry Al

There are 613 commandments for Hebrew and 7 for the Goyim.One commandment is to love thy neighbor.Now you have 612 for Hebrew and 6 commandments for the Goy to go..Must be God decided Love was not enough..

Fair enough.

But where does Jesus stand on UN resolutions? Does Christ feel that sanctions go far enough?

The son of God was curiously silent on the more practical matters of geopolitics.

You mean get "the world" over with?

Why would we nuke China, again? Like, ever? Even assuming we could get away with it?

While we waste tax money? What do you call building those over-boosted sparklers they call rockets?

Meddling is what America does best, no matter which Administration is in the White House.

How is this "meddling"?

the pig phuckers in washington are the meddlers in chief. The usa could not mind it's own business if it had a gun to it's head power hungry meddling pig phuckers

Who's going to kick his ass, exactly? And to expand on TFNJ's point, enforcing UN resolutions isn't exactly "meddling". Unless you happen to think that every sovereign nation is completely exempt from every rule that their own government didn't pass, in which case, yeah, it's meddling, but I'm glad for it.

So are Somalia, Nigeria, Libya, Syria, and Egypt also the kind of countries you'd like to see with their own nuclear weapons? They're sovereign countries, too.

You're pretty naive.

But it funny that people in the USA hate there own Government... :D

We told NK not to launch rockets? When?

First of all, it was a UN resolution, not a "US resolution" (which don't actually exist). And second of all, not that it's relevant since many other countries have nukes, but it's perfectly normal for a nation to want to have unparalleled military capability while restricting that of other nations. Is it nice? No, but geopolitics rarely is. It's still perfectly rational.

Hey kettle.. this is pot.. You're black.... Thats whats really sad Dave...

You're not really helping by trying to condemn him as a person rather than refuting his comments or just ignoring him, Dave.

When all is said and done, Romney and the Republicans lost the election. You seem unable to accept that, and wear a tinfoil hat three sizes to small.

who cares who won?....Romney and Obama can dicksword fight all they want...our country is still going downhill everyday...and we argue about elections...get over it...

Dec 21 is sounding better everday...

MacArthur was well on his way to starting World War III. Go back to your NeoCon bubble George. Do everyone in the real world a favor and stay there.

Oh...N Korea wanted missles? Why didn't they say so? We should send them about 200 missles. Tonight!

MacArthur was indeed on the way to WWIII. Back when we were the only nation able to fight WWIII. All the trouble we are currently having would not have occurred if we had "pacified" Russia and China when we were able to. Big expensive pacifist mistake. Harry Truman was feeling guilty about nuking Japan, and just couldn't bring himself to launch a few more. We nuked Japan, and look at them now! If we had nuked Moscow and Bejing, they'd have been pleasant to deal with in mere months.