North Korea dismantles long-range rocket ahead of launch

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A satellite image showing North Korea's Dongchang-ri missile launch site, located in the North Pyongan Province, bordering China, Dec. 2.

SEOUL — North Korea has started to dismantle a controversial long-range rocket on its launch pad in an apparent move to fix a technical problem but still looks likely to go ahead with the launch, South Korean news reports and experts said Tuesday.

North Korea says the launch is to put a weather satellite in orbit, but critics say it is aimed at nurturing the kind of technology needed to mount a nuclear warhead on a long-range missile.


When the first reports emerged that the rocket parts were being taken down, there was speculation the North might abandon the launch altogether.


But experts said the construction of the rocket meant that it needed to be removed from its gantry.

"For North Korean rockets, it's the only way to repair them because they build the rocket stage by stage," said Kwon Se-jin, a rocket expert at the Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology in Daejeon, South Korea.

Even China worried
North Korea said on Monday that the launch window had been extended by a week due to technical problems.

"So as it had announced, if the North has a problem with the first-stage control module, it has to replace it and take down (the rocket) from the top," Kwon said.

Elizabeth Dalziel / AP

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US sends warships as North Korea prepares rocket launch

The launch has been timed to coincide with the first anniversary of the death of former leader Kim Jong-il after a failed launch in April. It also comes as Japan and South Korea, long-time foes of the North, are holding elections.

North Korea is banned from testing missile or nuclear technology under U.N. sanctions imposed after its 2006 and 2009 nuclear weapons tests, and the United States, South Korea and Japan have condemned the current launch.

Russia, China press N. Korea to scuttle planned rocket launch

Even China, the one major diplomatic backer of isolated and impoverished North Korea, has expressed "deep concern" over the planned launch.

South Korean media reported on Tuesday that satellite images showed the rocket was being taken down.

Has North Korea learned its lessons about launches?

"We have captured indications that a part of the rocket is being disassembled from the launch pad in Tongchang-ri," Yonhap news agency quoted a South Korean government source as saying.

The name refers to the North's new test site in its western region close to the border with China.

Q&A: Rocket is 'not a military missile ... but it's darn close'

"There is no change to the North's will to fire the rocket," another source was quoted as saying by Yonhap.

Officials at South Korea's military and its foreign and defense ministries could not confirm the reports.

North Korea notified international maritime and aviation bodies of its plans last week.

It was impossible to confirm the media reports in what is one of the most closed and secretive states on Earth.

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Made in N Korea = POS!

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Reply#1 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:48 AM EST

Nothing is made in North Korea besides a lot of moaning and wailing by assigned North Korean mourners and celebrants. This guy thinks he's Vadimir Putin, except he broke the horse trying to mount it from the rear. ewww....

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#1.1 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:58 AM EST

@Warren: Give it up. Your photo is more comical than your jokes.

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#1.2 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:57 AM EST

Pu$$y just like your father.

    #1.3 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:40 AM EST

    Don't worry Kim it happens to guys once in awhile.

      #1.4 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:07 PM EST
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      Typical of Asian Finger-lock design.

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      Reply#2 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:20 AM EST

      I think we've set a Newsvine record for consecutive comments made by people named Warren. Note: this guy ain't kidding. The pull-my-finger joke in North Korea is the equivalent of unsuccessful masturbation, since you can't get either finger out of the hole in the bamboo if you're pulling too hard. Ya'z schtuck like a duck.

      LMAO at 4am....

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      #2.1 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:01 AM EST
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      Sounds like Admiral General Kim Jonk-pile is compensating for a half-inch penis. Personally, I don't think North Korea can get it up. Including the rocket. LOL!

      Feed your people, you fat bastard.

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      Reply#3 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:56 AM EST

      @ Warren: You and people like you are uneducated hypocrites. According to the Washington Post, almost 50 million people in America, (including almost one child in four) struggle to get enough to eat on any given day.

      Fix your own problems before point the finger at other nations.

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      #3.1 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:53 AM EST

      "So as it had announced, if the North has a problem with the first-stage control module, it has to replace it and take down (the rocket) from the top," Kwon said.

      So the rubber band broke?

        #3.2 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:42 PM EST
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        I hope the satellites take pictures of the giant fireball when it implodes on the pad. It is sad thats all they do when the whole country is starving to death.

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        Reply#4 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:58 AM EST

        Just let them fire it off and shoot it down...get some practice in for when we are going to have to shoot the real ones down later.

          Reply#6 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:27 AM EST

          Anyone else notice that the Kim's have always kept a nice dental plan?

            Reply#7 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:16 AM EST

            Yep. The "sexiest man on earth" has a weekly appointment to get the hairs removed from between his teeth.

              #7.1 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:27 AM EST
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              Maybe the rubber band broke. Or maybe the "sexiest man on earth" is stalling to maximize the cost to other countries with ships in the area to monitor the fiasco. Or maybe they are removing the warhead because they are afraid that doing the test will pi$$ off the U.S, South Korea, and Japan, and that China won't protect them.

                Reply#8 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:23 AM EST

                As I predicted, this rocket launch is a fail. The N Korean rocket program is outdone by kids in America using Estes rockets fired from their own back yards!

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                Reply#9 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:45 AM EST

                The beginning of the US space program was also marked by some spectacular failures and more lives lost than all other country's space programs combined, lest we forget.

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                Reply#10 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:52 AM EST

                And this also points to the idiocy of contending that North Korea is planning on using this rocket or a derivative as an ICBM. There are a number of reasons why this is NOT a military rocket and is not included in the UN bans:

                1) No country like North Korea is stupid enough to consider that a three-state liquid-fueled rocket would be suitable for carrying a nuclear warhead. First of all, a three-stage rocket is nine times more likely to fail than a one-stage rocket. And a liquid-fueled rocket is up to 40 times as likely to fail as a solid-fuel single-stage rocket.

                2) No country is stupid enough to believe that if they tried to put a warhead on a three-stage liquid-fueled rocket --- a process that takes several weeks --- that we would not send just one conventional Tomahawk missile to take it out sometime in that several weeks before it is even launched.

                3) For the most part NK's nukes are too heavy to deliver by missile. Period. They are a full half-century behind in miniturization, blast amplification, and other niceties of modern nukes. What they likely have is a "Fat Man" implosion type bomb in the Nagasaki yield range or slightly better --- 21-33 KILOtons. It likely weighs in at around 10,000 pounds. A reasonably competent high school or college student could, given the access to plutonium and the necessary machine tools and explosives could build one. Admittedly, the North Koreans could strip all the shielding and kill the assembly crew and get it down to around 8,ooo pounds, but that would be a last-ditch effort. "Fat Kim" will require one of their Beagle bombers to deliver.

                4) A blast from a Fat Man-type nuke would be far from devastating --- if you look at the Nagasaki damage, only around 50,000 people were killed, the major damage was actually caused by the resulting firestorm, and only about a 4-mile wide circle suffered a devastating blow. But, strangely, railroad tracks, roads, and bridges were uneffected, even directly under both bombs dropped on Japan. A blast of this size would do no significant tactical or strategic damage outside of the Korean Peninsula. It would be just big enough to really, really piss someone off (or destroy Seoul.) One of the little myths of WWII is that the weapon that would have actually prevented an invasion of the Japanese mainland was that fire-bombing was so much less expensive and more effective than even the nukes.

                5) This rocket, like the previous one, is being launched into polar orbit. This allows the satellite to eventually come over around 85% of the Earth's surface. Good for reconnaissance satellites, but worthless for an ICBM which would be a rather more difficult point-to-point ground-to-ground launch.

                6) North Korea sells military rockets (including large semi-guided SCUD variants and anti-ship missiles.) Putting a satellite into orbit would help their cachet in arms sales. And NKs isolation from the rest of the world, including China, means that they have zero satellite reconnaissance capability. This means that they would always have less of an element of surprise than any enemy.

                7) North Korea is, however, working with Iran to develop large single-stage solid-fuel rockets and their guidance systems. For this, NK is exchanging nuclear technology (and possibly some plutonium) and their vast expertise in hardening military targets.

                Yes, NK will learn some new information on rocketry from a launch that could be applied to a future missile system. But the amount of useful information is sparse and still leaves them fifty years behind us. Neither NK nukes nor NK missiles pose a significant threat outside the Korean Peninsula. If NK wanted to hit the US, rather than a ICBM, they would more likely use a fishing trawler converted to fire a single nuclear-tipped SCUD (actually a Hwahsong-6) from just outside the 200-mile limit off Washington DC, New York City, Los Angeles, San Francisco or a similar seaboard city. Even easier, just put it in a shipping containber and sea freight it to the US and set it up to explode when the container is opened. No missile even needed.

                  #10.1 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:10 PM EST
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                  Official word said they had to replace one stage of the rocket. That was damaged by the snow they recently had that softened the cardboard containing the black powder propellant. As soon as they can make another rocket stage shell out of old Hyundai fenders, they'll be ready to go again.

                    Reply#11 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:12 AM EST

                    Have to wait..till almost New Years day..

                    When The Fireworks stand ..will have a sale..

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                    Reply#12 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:12 AM EST

                    Waiting on Shipment..

                    Of New Chevy Volt..motor

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#13 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:13 AM EST

                    Kim-Jung-Un

                    the new "Un"-Dictator

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#14 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:14 AM EST

                    Way back in my younger days, me and a buddy took a small rocket with it's nose packed with gun powder out to the Arizona desert to launch. It left the "pad", did about a dozen left and right turns, and as we dived behind our car, it hit the ground and exploded. Now I know where that damn thing came from.

                    • 4 votes
                    Reply#15 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:15 AM EST

                    North Korea ..

                    will host two More..

                    week-end Car washes..and Cookie sales..

                    Pay for some propellent ..For the launch

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#16 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:33 AM EST

                    Two More Guidance systems are needed..

                    Kim-Jung-Un.

                    Has Ordered...

                    A Shipment of X-Box Joysticks....will be Fed-Ex'd...from E-Bay

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#17 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:36 AM EST

                    Actually, you're a lot closer to the truth than you think. Most commercial GPS units, such as the ones sold to be used on aircraft and boats, provide for transmission of key location data, including absolute coordinates, and altitude, directly to a computer. You can buy these GPS units right off eBay or from a boating or aviation supply store.

                    Even nuclear weapons can be created using eBay parts. For example, in the original Fat Man, the very difficult thing was to get 64 explosive shaped charges to all fire at precisely the same time. Even a few nanoseconds difference would cause the bomb to fizzle. It was a tough problem in WWII, requiring silver wire and capacitors and a primitive electronic times to resolve. Now you can get "slave" camera flashes that can perform the same function, using fiber optics instead of wires, right off eBay.

                    That's how much the world has changed in the last 50+ years.

                      #17.1 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:26 PM EST
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                      Glorious Leader was quoted as saying..

                      " We Don't have Wal-Mart Here...so where are "D" batteries..when we need them?"

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                      Reply#18 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:37 AM EST

                      Hell yes, all those other countries are worried about this launch - there's no telling where the thing will land, and what it will do once it crashes.

                      The best thing would be for it to go straight up, and come straight back down. Take out all those 'experts' before they really do damage elsewhere.

                        Reply#19 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:54 AM EST

                        Actually, North Korea has posted the same types of aviation, maritime, and diplomatic notices that we would post for a launch from Kennedy. Actually the missile is to be fired SSW and its projected flight path does not cross over any other countries. There isn't any "if" because the first and second stages are all sub-orbital and would fall back to earth no matter what. These should fall into the South China Sea in international waters. The concern the US Navy expressed was that 1) the missile might not have command detonation, 2) it might veer off course and the North Koreans not have the ability to tell it, and 3) that in the process of failing and not being command detonated, it, or one of its components, might appear to be falling to Earth onto Japan or some other country. This is a lot of "mights." In all likelihood, it the missile fails, it will be in early flight where dynamic pressures are the greatest or in failing to put the satellite into a viable orbit.

                        The real reason the Navy is moving ships into the area is not to shoot down the missile. This would be at the very limits of the Navy's capability without committing an act of war in the process. The Navy is there hoping to recover pieces of the first and second stages of the rocket so they can assess the start of the art in North Korea. Most likely the Navy would use a Standard-3 missile to take a shot. But the range of the Standard (270nm) and service ceiling (100nm) is so low that it would not be a likely kill. The problem is that the Standard is intended to shoot down missiles that are aimed near the ship firing the missile. This is a very easy shot compared to shooting at a missile traversing overhead. Roughly the difference between shooting at a very slow moving target that is increasing in size and shooting at a much smaller rapidly moving target that is shrinking in size. These difficulties are why the Airborne Laser was such a flop.

                          #19.1 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:42 PM EST
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                          Dear Lil Kim, if you need a weather report simply go on the internet. No need to spend those big bucks on a rocket, when you can use them to feed your poor.

                            Reply#20 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:58 AM EST

                            They have every right to launch. Just who are we to tell them they cannot? We have thousands of nukes and get into everyones business. Then tell them they can't have what we have? Pure bull@!$%#.

                              Reply#22 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:35 AM EST

                              Why not arm a drone with a Hellfire missle and have the NK rocket "accidentally" explode 30 seconds after launch?

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                              Reply#23 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:43 PM EST

                              Because it would be an act of war that would cause everything in South Korea from the DMZ inland about 30nm to simply disappear. Within fifteen minutes of such an act, the entire Seoul-Inchon Corridor and all military and civilian targets along the DMZ, including 20,000 American and 120,000 ROKA soldiers would be destroyed. (That's why the US forces are called tripwire or sacrificial forces and never appear in any Order of Battle.) That would cost South Korea around 40% of its population and 80% of its industrial capacity, along with its major port, financial, political, and military capitals.

                              The North Koreans count on the U.S. and South Korea to be smart enough to NOT "arm a drone with a Hellfire missile and have the NK rocket 'accidentally' explode 30 seconds after launch." If such a thing was done, there would be no way that any North Korean regime could not respond with a full scale war and still stay in power.

                              It would be a costly error, that's why!

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                              #23.1 - Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:55 PM EST
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                              Saves them the time of having to go 5 miles offshore trying to find any pieces!

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