So far nine health workers have been murdered while walking door to door to deliver polio vaccines to children in need because some believe the immunizations are part of a U.S. plot. NBC's Stephanie Gosk reports.
Updated 8:00 p.m. ET: PESHAWAR, Pakistan — Pakistan may be one of the world's three remaining polio-stricken countries but Sartaj Khan has decided that the government-sponsored vaccination campaign is much more sinister than it appears.
"These vaccines are meant to destroy our nation," said Khan, a 42-year-old lawyer in the city of Peshawar. "The [polio] drops make men less manly, and make women more excited and less bashful. Our enemies want to wipe us out."
Khan is not alone in the belief, propagated by extremist groups, that is gaining currency in the Pashtun belt of northwestern Pakistan: The government’s anti-polio campaign is a ruse by the Americans to sterilize or spy on Muslims.
Many also believe that much like the Pakistani physician, Dr. Shakeel Afridi, who helped the CIA run a fake vaccination program to establish the presence of Osama bin Laden, the army of health workers employed to vaccinate the country’s children are also on the United States’ payroll.
The belief has turned deadly: Nine anti-polio workers have been killed by gunmen on motorcycles this week. Some of those killed were teenage girls. Following the violence, the United Nations pulled back all staff involved in the vaccination campaign and officials suspended it in some parts of the country.
There are ranks of parents whose awareness is low and suspicions high when it comes to the deadly virus: A November World Health Organization study found that 41 percent of those polled had never heard of polio — and 11 percent refused to vaccinate their children.
The reality is that polio can paralyze or kill within hours of infection. It is transmitted person-to-person, meaning that as long as one child is infected, the disease can be passed to others.
Photos: Vaccination workers gunned down in Pakistan
Nuclear-armed and militancy-struck Pakistan, Afghanistan and Nigeria are the only countries still struggling with polio. Extremists have opposed vaccination programs in Afghanistan and Nigeria, although they haven’t resorted to the sort of violence seen in Pakistan. According to the World Health Organization, there were 213 new cases of polio worldwide in 2012, including 56 in Pakistan.

Mohsin Raza / Reuters
A female polio worker gives polio vaccine drops to a child in Lahore, Pakistan, on Thursday.
Polio also disproportionately affects members of the Pashtun population in Pakistan, who largely live in the country's northwest and border region. They account for roughly 15 percent of the population, but 75 percent of all polio cases.
Shamim Bibi, a 25-year-old mother of two who has been working in Peshawar’s suburbs as an anti-polio campaign worker for the last nine years, said she had never before faced hostility in her line of work.
"For years, we were welcomed into homes by families," she said. "In 2012, attitudes changed. Now, they look at us with a sort of suspicion. Some people have even said it to my face: that I’m an American spy."
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Suspicion of the United States does indeed run deep. Unknown gunmen may have assassinated 14-year-old anti-polio worker Farzana Rehman in her hometown of Peshawar but her grieving father is placing the blame for her death further afield.
"My daughter was too young to leave this world," an obviously distraught Said Rehman told NBC News. "Polio didn’t take her. This American war did. So what’s the bigger danger, huh?"
The American war refers to the post-Sept. 11, 2001, violence that has swept Pakistan and Afghanistan, in particular U.S. drone strikes that enrage many. In parts of Pakistan, the war is also called the Kharji, or "white person's" war.
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As experts cite the latest violence as a new form of "low tech, high concept" attacks by Pakistan’s militants, Rehman can only wonder if those trying to stop the disease are missing the point.
"Disease didn’t take my child. A bullet did," he said.
Reuters contributed to this report.
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Can't cure stupid.
How many US communities won't fluoridate because of a fear of UN mind control?
Ask Stepford Representative Bachmann about immunizations.
How many US citizens didn't vote FOR Romney so much as they voted AGAINST the guy with the nice tan?
If she didn't want it, why was she there/dressed like that? And if she gets pregnant, it's GOD"S BLESSING.
The Taliban/Teaparty is alive and thriving, all around the world.
"“These vaccines are meant to destroy our nation,” said Khan, a 42-year-old lawyer in the city of Peshawar. “The [polio] drops make men less manly, and make women more excited and less bashful. Our enemies want to wipe us out.”"
But the most corrupt and partisan UN and its agencies like WHO imagine that they can help. Their stupidity level is higher than many Pakis like the above!
Religions inspire people to do some of the most wonderful and also most horrible things in life.
Emancipate yourself from mental slavery... none but ourselves can free our mind...
Yet after reading your post I find both entities far more palatable thatn the likes of you.
Strange that our money is completely safe to come in contact with though...
Some people don't deserve to be helped, they should be left alone. Ungrateful savages.
What the heck. These barbarians have been fighting and killing each other since time immemorial anyway, right? Well, you know what they say about an ounce of prevention......
Lack of education is what's driving this rather than ingratitude. As long as a single case of polio exists in the world the disease cannot be eradicated. Innocent children do not deserve to pay for their parents' ignorance..or do you feel that they deserve a lifetime of crippling paralysis or death because their parents are superstitious and uneducated?
The rest of us hope not. Young children are the usual victims of polio. It rarely strikes adults.
I agree with you Romilio.If they go so far as to kill the workers and some nut lawyer is saying the vaccine causes men to be less manly and women to be less bashful...let them get polio.Not that I want the innocent children to get polio but maybe that is what it will take for them to realize that the vaccine actually saves lives...
MANGST98, you beat me to the comments dude. The same ignorance is found in America, only here they make it sound better by saying its paranoia.
Hec, here when an airplane flies by and leaves atmospheric condensation, it gets labled "Chemtrails". I might say the ignorance levels here might be higher.
Must be that spanish fly we're mixing into the vaccination! Our evil plot to make their women horny is bearing fruit!
An uneducated, weak minded population is very easy to mislead and manipulate with propaganda and made up facts.
Scare tactics at its finest leads to the senseless murder of medical workers trying help the most vulnerable, the kids.
Anyone remember the Swine flu outbreak, and the reaction to the quick vaccine? Wish I still had a link to the posts here, but most said that the vaccine was a government conspiracy for population control.
Not saying that what the Pakis think is right, just adding the old line:
Pot, meet kettle
I agree can't fix stupid. While I too am inclined to say piss on em, let them own polio and reap the consequences of their ignorance I am also torn in that it will likely be the innocent children that suffer the most and they don't deserve to suffer because of their parents and other adults stupidity. So its left with a what do you do? I'd like to say keep trying but at some point and sometimes, it sucks, but you have to say enough. Fortunately (not that its a good thing) there are people that need help elsewhere in the world and would welcome these people with open arms, not a hail of gunfire. Honestly I think more and more it would seem the best approach with this part of the world would be to just isolate it as much as possible and let them drown in their stupidity and focus on the rest of the world and moving forward. Whenever they step out of line or get funny ideas knock em back in with brute force but otherwise thats it. We can also send them other like idiots who think the same way in our country and let them all live together in stupidity and stone age times.
It is time
...says the Fascist/Libby.
Yeah because the fascism and liberalism are two things that can easily be connected. I guess the Nazis were just progressives? You ID tag leads us to believe your another troll - thats all.
Most of the non-Islamic religions have reformed with times or started vanishing if they did not reform.
Here followers of Islam, especially Wahhabi House of Saud and other oil rich Sunni rulers invented, funded and exported, Sunni Muslims are fast marching backwards to seventh centure desert of hating and killing days.
Sunni Muslims are on rampage in most of the nations either hating and killing non-Muslims or killing Muslims of different sect/tribes in Muslim majority nations.
They can't permit a Shiite ruler to rule in Bahrain. At the same time, they can't tolerate a non-Sunni ruler like Assad in Syria!
Pakistan is on the verge of tribal and Islamic sectarian civil wars.
Here Paki nukes are a serious concern.
It is better for US and allies take them out before they fall into some Isalmic nut cases' hands.
Many Pakis responsible for the mess in Pakistan are busy lecturing us (some want Sharia laws and jihad too), planning terrorist acts and other "moral acts" in the US, Britain, France, Germany and western nations.
Gen Mush, Bush, Jr's pal, is one example!
Well let them have polio then. I just can't seem to give a squat about Pakistanis at this point. They hate us anyway so let them rot. I am sure there is a country that will take this medicine.
You should at least know what a fascist is if you are going to spew it on the internet. It's not like it's hard to look up definitions these days.
Look up "Fascism". It fits perfectly for today's Libby.
My comment is bad but connecting the Taliban and The Tea Party makes perfect sense to you? Do you people even listen to yourselves? That's some stroooong kool-aid!
...says the Fascist/Libby.
Everybody point and laugh.
A Taliban commander handicapped with polio will be easy to chase and catch. You have to hand it to these free-thinkers! On the other hand, maybe Pakistan's future polio victims will be persuaded that a suicide vest will magically cure all of their ills.
Why do we keep trying to help $hit hole countries that hate us?
Mang, I am no great fan of Michelle Bachmann...but no matter what she said about vaccination, she has not, as of now, killed anyone for providing it. Please stop comparing apples and oranges.
Sorry, I was taught not to make fun of the mentally challenged.
A UNICEF campaign to vaccinate Nigeria's youth against polio may have been a front for sterilizing the nation. Dr. Haruna Kaita, a pharmaceutical scientist and Dean of the Faculty of Pharmaceutical Sciences of Ahmadu Bello University in Zaria, took samples of the vaccine to labs in India for analysis.
Using WHO-recommended technologies like Gas Chromatography (GC) and Radio-Immuno assay, Dr. Kaita, upon analysis, found evidence of serious contamination. "Some of the things we discovered in the vaccines are harmful, toxic; some have direct effects on the human reproductive system," he said in an interview with Kaduna's Weekly Trust. "I and some other professional colleagues who are Indians who were in the Lab could not believe the discovery," he said...
Now I wonder why they would think such a thing??? Ungrateful people huh? For those of you commenting against them how about the simian monkey virus contamination? Do your research and see why they think what they do, you people blindly accept what is being told to you as truth. NBC do a real report and show the cases where they did this oh yeah but it was just an accidental thing right? What a fricken joke.
Why would this surprise anyone? These middle east people have been killing their own people and each other for thousands of years.THEY ARE NOT GOING TO STOP.Get that through your heads. What we need to do is focus on our own nation until there are no more hungry,no more homeless,no more sick,then worry about other country's people and children. It might sound politically non correct but I worry more about 1 US child more than the whole country of Pakistan. Everyone wonders why they hate us, it's because we are interfering with their lives and trying to make them conform to our belief's. If your next door neighbor was constantly telling you how to run your home , raise your kids,what color to paint your house ect you would tell them to shove it.Well.......
"Well let them have polio then. I just can't seem to give a squat about Pakistanis at this point. They hate us anyway so let them rot. I am sure there is a country that will take this medicine."
I agree, let them die. I am so over the idea that we should feel guilty because some in this world think we are "evil" because we are so "wealthy". If they don't want our help because we've found a way to cure disease through education and common sense; rather than religion and other myths. Fine let them die.
THEY ARE NOT TOTALLY CRAZY....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemala_syphilis_experiment
The U.S government has performed many mass medical experiments with no public knowledge . THis is my field of study and I worked as a medical researcher, though I never was involved in anything like this. I worked for a private agency. There werre simple experiments performed on a large scale like the one in Cleveland Ohio in 2006 where ambulances were using synthetic blood on patients without their consent. There have been other mass studies of HIV and STD's. Google it---many of the old studies are available online. I am a normal well educated soccer mom and I can tell you I don't even trust our government ( nor do any of my other soccer mom friends) They aren't out to get us---they just couldn't give a crap about our well being.
Amen Kallie, they use us as Guinea pigs no matter the results and they are immune from prosecution.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&ved=0CGEQFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Farticles.latimes.com%2F1997-04-09%2Fnews%2Fmn-46999_1_apology-tuskegee-house&ei=UDXTUJSqPKTk2AWvy4GAAg&usg=AFQjCNHEHYUBYwK6tTCkXIGEY2uwO1pQZw&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.b2I
An apology years later makes it all better!
MANGST98,
And many people voted for Barack because he was black and a celebrity. No plan on how to get us out of the recession or debt. Believe that taxing the rich a little more and making no cuts will get us out of debt, even though adding 1+1 shows it wont. Want to ban certain guns even though statistics have shown it to have the opposite affect. And want to give health insurance companies more forced customers.
And arguesforsport is correct. Fascism is the government decided what you'll buy from private orgs for the good of the state. If that doesnt nail Obamacare, then nothing does. Its more factual than teaparty/taliban which is another cute way of libs being fear mongers.
I hate it when people compare these radical, nonsensical, and backward Islamic ideas with Christians or the right in the US.
You think that comparing the two makes you some sort of smart, enlightened progressive. Fact is, you're an idiot and the comparison is just totally ridiculous.
Why do we need all this nonsense about how everyones the same. Young women are getting killed in Pakistan over something so insane, and we have the wonderful self-annointed and self-righteous progressives telling us that it's wrong to oppose b/c it would be hypocritical.
It's not wrong to oppose. What's happening in Pakistan is sick and cowardly. No one (not to mention organized communities!) is killing young aid workers in the US.
These people are infected with Islam.
I agree. Look at all of the people that voted for dubya twice.
Many Muslims, especially Sunnis, feel that they super duper intelligent and they can get away with murders.
Or else, how can they invent problems and go on hating and killing all over the world?
May be their Allah's prediction is coming true: Islam is going to be wiped out soon!
Communism, most violent ideology, had the shortest life span. May be it is Islam's time.
argues
Fascist/Liberal is 180 out of phase (you do know what I mean by that don't you?)
Tea Party/Taliban let's see...intolerant, ignorant, bigots, religious fanatics, dumb as rocks......looks like a good fit to me.
Ferrosynthesis: For this reason, Romneys, McCain, Hillary (Jewish lobby) want to do the dirty jobs for Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, and other Sunni rulers in Syria and Iran.
It does not matter much for Romneys and co whether Syrian rebels are supported by Sunni hating and killing machines like al Qaida, Salaffi, MB and others.
The hatred in the area goes very deep. You see people, these countries have several thousand years of history and a track record of tribal relationships and ideas that might seem stone age to someone in the West...but that was how it was done in isolation between peoples in remote areas in which there was no centralized government (which was IMPARTIAL TO RELIGION) to govern.
The polio vaccine was invented by Dr Salk, who was Jewish. Maybe THAT is what scares them.
But if the drops "make women more excited and less bashful" let's get some of these going in the U.S.
For those of you who are saying "Fine, then let them get polio" please think about who will actually end up suffering the consequences.
First, it's far more likely to strike the very young than adults unless the adult is pregnant or has a weakened immune system. Are you really OK with the concept of visiting the sins of the fathers on their children?
Secondly, as long as polio is still present anywhere on this planet that means that 100's of millions of vaccinations still need to be given for it every year. If we can eradicate it- like we did with smallpox- then perhaps someday it will no longer be necessary to do that and the money and resources we spend doing it can be saved or spent on another pressing need.
Ferrosynthesis-3490482,
Ignorant, sounds like you. Please explain the differences between socialism and fascism. Ill give you a hint, its not a hell of a lot. People who say that its 180 degrees, obviously dont know what they both are. Its a cute thing libs like to tell each other. Fascists are socialists, and it would accurately describe obamacare too. Government controlling what people do. They sound more like you libs.
"makes a woman more excited and less bashful..." Seriously, what man is going to complain about that? "makes a man less manly..." Don't need a drop to accomplish that, just live in the US for the last 40 years and you'll see that.
Just start another rumor. If you don't get your polio shot you are going to perish at the end of the Mayan calendar.
You all need to go out and read the UNs "AGENDA 21". Just google it and you will get bits and quotes. I still haven't found the complete document, over 300 pages. It is scary stuff but look at it and compare it with what is going on around the world today, by the way the membership is large and includes the USA.
It is indicative of the level of ignorance and superstition when a so-called lawyer (educated man?) spouts such insane drivel. Until we find a cure for ignorance unscrupulous people in these backward countries will continue to exploit each other, kill each other, and drag innocent people through poverty and bitterness while blaming their condition on those who are trying to help. Greed. corruption, and exploitation thrive in the midst of ignorance.
And Pakistan is the same country allowed to have Nuclear Weapons? The end of time will come when these same minded exremists get their hands on the red nuke button.
Hard to blame them for this other than their murdering innocent people. The United States Government has in the past experimented on its own people. I pretty much do not trust anything that has to do with the government and that includes local,state, and federal. As far as the people are concerned in America, the women have become more manly and the men less manly every since homosexuality became the norm.
Yeah, see they are doing this in Portland Oregon too. Except it's with fluoride. :)
Why does the thought of a Pakistani woman becoming more excited and less bashful kreep me out?
Does the world need any more proof that the followers of islam are simply ignorant? And how about taking a look at every one of the muslim-arab countries. Is there a single one that has any stability, any infrastructure, any commerce, any education, any quality of life? Of course not...the hate filled ignorance of islam has taken all that away, and these latest killings and idiotic proclamations from the muslim leaders only proves the point. Islam is the scourge of the world, nothing more.
Something is wrong when men don't want women to be "more excited," or to take off their burkas. Something is just fundamentally wrong with men like that.
Bronze-age donkeys...
Exposure to high levels of radiation would be much more affective in neutering the maniacs
@Mangst, post #1.1
Spot on! It was the first thing I thought of, too. Amazing how fundamentalists all over the world believe lies and conspiracy theories, fear everything they do not understand, and are easily manipulated! Too bad they all cannot join and live in the same country together while the rest of live our lives in peace without their insanity!
Sam Adams - and look at how many people re-elected the Obamanation. The definition of insanity - doing the same thing again but expecting a different result.
Thank god that incompetent boob can't run a third time. We might as well resign ourselves to being a third world country if that were possible - you know, like Nigeria. "Yes father, I have avenged you"...
Between the possibility that the smallpox eradication project might have kicked
off the AIDS epidemic through the infection of thousands of Africans by infected
needles and the capture of Bin Laden using fake vaccination workers, it is no wonder
that there is so much paranoia concerning vaccinations.
Peridot-1693859
Lack of education is what's driving this rather than ingratitude.
No, it's a surplus of mythical-derrived dogma that has led to willful ignorance. Islam and all other dogmatic religions are a blight on the surface of mankind. This is just one instance in a centuries-old group of instances.
As for the vaccine naysayers:
Pick up a history book. Look up the story of polio... or small pox (far worse.) After you see what applied sciences did for the world, then you can open your trap and try to defend against it. MILLIONS of lives, primarily children, have been and continued to be saved thanks to the wonders of modern medicine, which is getting better by the year thanks to exponential technology drivers.
If you truly by into the approach of the extremists, try to "pray" your way out. Good luck with that.
Gratitude for what so many well-educated, devout medical researchers and physicians have done for the health of the world would be nice. For all the woes of medicine (bad drugs, treating the symptoms, etc.), so many chronic conditions have been eased or cured. Be thankful.
Oh, as for polio vaccines making men "less manly", I don't think you can get less manly than your average Pakistani Islamic buffoon—no vaccines required. And Buddha forbid 'women' become more sexually satisfied! Oh, perish the thought.
Save the vaccines, money and medical workers lives, let them die from polio, lets pay to relocate the Pashtun's to the major cities so it can be equally shared by all Paki's. Now that's a great secret plot.
Ho really?..
From the Oxford English Dictionary (since you apparently don't have access on your interwebs):
Definition of fascism
noun
[mass noun]
Enjoy. :)
If you're trying to sway opinion, you first need to get your facts straight.
Fact: Despite the names you call those in the TEA party, they were regular working people whose statement was simply "Taxed Enough Already". They believed that we already have ebnough government regulation, taxation, and control over the lives of people. There is nothing fanatical or crazy about that. In fact, it makes the most sense of all.
By comparison, many of the leftists (whom I do NOT consider "liberal" at all) feel fully justified in criminalizing anyone and anything THEY disagree with. They will "shout down" those who oppose leftist policies and call them "haters" "bigots" and, well...precisely what you said above. That is what amounts to tyranny: FORCING YOUR BELIEFS upon others, and using the unstoppable power of government to do it. There is nothing about the modern left that says "live and let live". Today, the modus operandi of the left is "DO IT OUR WAY VOLUNTARILY OR WE'LL FORCE YOU TO DO IT OUR WAY".
This is why the modern left is sometimes called "liberal fascism"
Good! It's a start!!!!
@ fisher 42,
"Can't cure stupid."
Well said. It is sad, but maybe some countries should just be left to rot. It is simply too dangerous to work there. And these Taliban dirt-bags should all be exterminated. It's clear they don't believe in humanity. The only problem with ignoring this is that Polio could spread to other countries if not contained, and Polio is very serious. And of course these Taliban dirt-bags don't care. I hope every Taliban member gets Polio so they can understand the gravity of what they did first hand.
Which isn't what's happening at all so your argument is wrong.
Yep.
and the herds of retards that voted for Obama twice.
We can do the muslims one better if you ask me. We know more than enough about the genome to create a virus or disease that is gene specific and will kill all that have a specific heritage. How would they like that? Let their kids get polio.
The vaccine "makes our men less manly"?
Let me tell you something, STUPID makes a man less manly.
AnIndividual writes in support of MANGST98:
And yet, just one "brand" of religious fundamentalism in the world today generates millions of followers eager to murder or support the murderers of people who commit the "crime" of not following or submitting to their religion. Yes, that would be Islam. The mentality of all fundamentalists may be similar but the danger from one particular creed is beyond comparison to any other.
comon sense-3288309
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"An uneducated, weak minded population is very easy to mislead and manipulate with propaganda and made up facts."
You are absolutely correct in your statement, and I fully agree with you 100%, after all, the uneducated, weak minded population elected obama for a second term, did'nt they.. just like the population of Pakistan
fed-up: actually, the uneducated voted for the other guy. Name rhymes with Robme... One of the reasons for the "voter ID" campaigns in Wisconsin and other states was to prevent college students from voting. It appears that most people with at least some college education vote for Democrats. The Republican party is very popular in Texas, which also has the highest rate of high school drop outs.
Anyway, one of the possible side effects of polio would be the inability of men to have a natural erection, needed to procreate.
Maybe it is a good thing that polio is sweeping through these areas. Eventually these neanderthals will die out.
interesting that every time they have these mass killings, they turn around and blame it on the Americans.
"we are only killing because of those damn Americans"...
last time it was the anti-muslim video, which I believe was not made by an American, but they claimed it was. maybe it was an immigrant but I don't remember, the point is the same.
either way they are killing and justifying it by saying it was in retaliation for something the Americans have done. they justify shooting some little girl in the head because she spoke out on womens rights, I'm sure that was the American's fault too in some way.
Sterility and infertility are more likely caused by consanguinity than a plot by the mean ole USA. You've got to stop schtupping you own cousins.
http://www.consang.net/index.php/Global_prevalence
I have a question: When DON'T these people get angry and violent?
I had polio in 1946 I was one of the fortunate ones, several children died or was severely crippled. I have a 1/1/2 in shorter rt leg! How can these people hate us so and let their children face the crippling effects of polio. I will answer my own question, ignorance!! We give those people a lot of money yearly and they hate us when do we stop trying to help them?
I agree why should we spend our money on vaccines for people who do not want them; place a advertisement in all Newspapers in the middle east, that all western drugs are by products of swine(pigs), that is why it is called swine flu, in a generation or two they will be all gone and peace may return.
Why do we even care? Just let them die, it'll save us the trouble from having to kill them later. A few more dead muslims mean a few more dead enemies to the rest of the world!!!
Can't reason with the stone-age mentality.......
This isn't so surprising, after all we have a large population of people in this country who live in blind Fear and will believe Anything too. It's a nice thought to wipe out Polio but, if people are so dumb as to insist that they prefer it to vaccination - what are you going to do?
This Khan character sounds like he would make a great Republican politician. He has the only qualification needed............. He lies convincingly.
fed-upwith gov post 1.69
You sound like you really hate America; maybe you should move to Pakistan....... Be sure to get a polio shot before you pack your bags.
If I lived there I would have zero trust for international organizations also, though I probably wouldn't do drivebys on health care workers. Probably
The enduring power of the Lie is STRONG with under-educated people that share the same beliefs. Such is the deadly problem with the Taliban.
Extremists never need proof to haul off and murder people. All they need is an idea, regardless of how asinine it is, and enough uneducated fools to follow them. The fact that they actually think a shot meant to help fight polio is a ruse to sterilize Muslims and 'loosen' their women just shows how utterly ignorant and fearful they are.
There has been a lot of talk about how the Muslims are going to take over by numbers; having more children the rest of the different religions, ethnic groups, etc. It seems to me that all anyone has to do is start a rumor about the United States being involved in something in the middle east and they start killing each other.
Just maybe if there are enough rumors started.............................?
A little too easy to push their buttons.
Who squealed?
Following are the contributions of Islam to a peaceful region. The history go on repeating wherever followers Islamic cult set their feet!
Look at US, Britain, France, Spain and other places these days!
The Islamic extremist Frankenstein monsters have started backstabbing big time the inventers of Pakistan, British, and the masters (US and allies) who kept them alive.
In most of the Islamic terrorism and plots in the US, Britain, Europe and other places, Pakis have a hand.
Half of NATO forces deaths in Afghanistan are due to Pakis.
Before followers of Islamic cult set their feet on Afghan and Paki regions, these regions were quite peaceful and prosperous.
Once the cancer of Islam gradually got control of the region, those regions have become raping, stealing, looting and killing fields.
In Afghanistan, Paki proxies Taliban did not even tolerate Buddha’s statue in Bamiyan.
Many Paki areas and some Afghan areas have become breeding and exporting centers for illegal activities including drugs growing and trading and export of Islamic radicals and terrorists all over the world.
British invented Pakistan in 47 and Pakistan is supposed to be a pure Islamic nation. In Pakistan, it was massive genocides of minorities in between 48-50.
Percentages of Hindus and Sikhs were reduced from about 24 percent less than three years by rapings, stealing, lootings, terrorizing and killing on a massive scale.
Paki Islamic religious madness did not end there.
Sunni Pakis are after Ahmedias, Sufis (fake love and dance Islamic soap opera people), Shiites (20 percent), Hazaras, and Baloochs and other minority sects/tribes.
Shiites, Sufis, Ahmedias and other minority sects/tribes people are blown up while they pray in their mosques on Fridays. And even hospitals are bombed to kill those injured.
Pay attention to the efforts of the left to alter society forcefully and despite wide opposition:
The Affordable Care Act and calling anyone opposed to it "bigoted" and "hateful".
Promoting Gay marriage and calling anyone opposed to it "bigoted" and "hateful".
Forcing insurance plans of private religious organizations to cover contraceptives and calling anyone opposed to it "bigoted" and "hateful".
Refusing to prosecute Black Panthers for voter intimidation, when the very same action would DEFINATELY be prosecuted if done by whites. (institutional racist policies).
Forcing higher taxes on the people who already pay the most and calling anyone opposed to it "bigoted" and "hateful".
The good Democrats of the JFK era are gone.
Yeah which is sooo much like Nazi Brown Shirts beating people in the streets or a good ol' fashion night of broken glass. You goofballs should actually read what you right sometime.
Next they'll be saying it causes autism. Idiots.
IMHO lol
Why are all you folk talking so openly and cruel like about america?
...and we worry that we may be the only "intelligent life" in the universe...a little presumptuous don't you think?
You talk about it.
Bush and his team imagined that they are most intelligent and considered that ungrateful and backstabbing Saudis and Pakis are strategic allies!
In 9/11, Saudis and Pakis had their hand.
So Bush and his most intelligent advisors went to war in Afghanistan in 2001. As they were most intelligent history had seen, they went to another war in Iraq in 2003.
Still there are many intelligent left.
"In parts of Pakistan, the war is also called the Kharji, or “white person's” war."
So they feel that they have to have their business in Syria and Iran!!!!
What a world!
can you all stop saying pakis its pakistani,you must stop bringing your latent bigotry to the sunject at hand,which is our attemps to get bin laden through the fake vaccine program makes them understandbly suspicious,would you not be? as for these savages as you call people who dont believe in the american way let them be, a look back at this nations history shows that savagery knows no bounds.
panther look, you need to wake the hell up, you are in some kind of la la land.
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panther look: You need to have a human look.
What is the problem in calling those in Pakistan as Pakis?
Any how in left to right writing it is not that bad!
May be: when panthers read from right to left, Pakis may not be great!
Why be so bigoted even to fight on names?
I have not taken Mohammed's name or some 72 virgins case!
Jonathan-Paki is a pejorative term, like 'whitey' or 'cracker' that's all. Some people may find the term offensive. And while you can be offensive if you want, it generally will not help you to make a point.
Hal: I use Paki as it is short and nothing else!
You may not know it, but saying "Paki" is like saying the N word. Just like parts of the US, you would get your ___— kicked in any Pakistani community for saying it.
Just giving you a heads up.
Paki........What are they going to do if they are insulted?....hide another terrorist or maybe give me polio?
"Jonathan" posts his copy/paste bigoted comments in any story remotely related to the Middle East. He's probably paid to do this - he certainly isn't American based on the things he says and his grasp of the language.
Best policy is to just ignore him and carry on.
And yes: "Paki" is pretty much the equivalent of "Ni88er" or "Kike". But you already knew that, so just own it instead of pretending you didn't know...
Don't sterilize.....eradicate, like roaches
ok then, if everyone is going to whine and complain about abbreviations and labeling, then none of the "Pakistani" or any other nationality are allowed to call me a white man or "caucasian". You must call me "Italian American", and nothing else or I will be offended. You are not allowed to call me "American" or any other variation, you are not allowed to refer to me as Italian either, because that would be offensive. My skin color is darker then most white people (that's right, I can say it but YOU CAN'T), but you are not allowed to comment or notice or that would be offensive. If I were one of these radicals, they would even claim that you can't talk bad or discount their religion in any way or they will kill you, on site, hehe. I won't say it but you know what I'm thinking, don't talk down about my God either !!!
oh and did I mention that my way is the highway, if you don't follow then you will be eradicated !
sorry for the excessive sarcasm, but I felt it was necessary.
now be well and stay politically correct !
I bet they wouldn't like to hear that s**t
Call yourself or anyone else whatever you like, dude - it's your right. Nobody said you're not allowed, or would be eradicated.
I'm saying that intentionally choosing the word "Paki" is a thinly-veiled racist label. Use it all you like, but you can't both use it AND claim it's "just an abbreviation", and more than saying "ni88er" is just an abbreviation of "negroid".
Why do we even care? Just let them die, it'll save us the trouble from having to kill them later. A few more dead muslims mean a few more dead enemies to the rest of the world!!!
Every time I hear this stupidity, I pray, "Please, Please! Don't let me stop you". Hopefully the world and health organizations just pull back. And make sure you don't let them have any other vaccines such as those against measles, mumps, etc. Let them pray to their Allah to save them.
Also to people who use the term "paki". "paki" is equivalent to the n-word for blacks. Claiming ignorance only works once. Afterwards, if you deliberately use it, you know exactly what you are. Let's not pretend or try to make an argument that justifies you being able to use it. We aren't children here who can say "But he did it first".
Your mentality is no better than any other
Mifo: Instead of reforming Islam and opposing illegal acts of Pakis, if you give spins, excuses and abuses, it won't help much!
So many Pakis are a liability in Pakistan for supporting or remaining silent to what is going in Pakistan.
Pakis are a considered a liability and curses in the US, Britain and many nations. Look at polls!
One can't ruin a place and then run to some other prosperous place.
Repeating what Pakis did in Pakistan in the US, Britain, France, and other places are not going to help much.
Not many care for Pakis rants.
Similar will be fate of your rants!
Lastly, those Pakis who defend Pakistan and Pakis of Pakistan in our nations need to have basic honesty to go back to their beloved Pakistan or some Muslim nation. NO excuses, spins or abuses here tooo!
Nothing can be deemed pejorative when describing Pakistani males. When God finished with Creation He had all these slimy festering @!$%#s left over. When He asked Gabriel what to do with them, Ole Gabe simply replied, "Oh! Just leave 'em be; one day somebody will invent a new name for them . . . like Pakis."
They are crazy BUT THEY ARE NOT TOTALLY CRAZY....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemala_syphilis_experiment
The U.S government has performed many mass medical experiments with no public knowledge . THis is my field of study and I worked as a medical researcher, though I never was involved in anything like this. I worked for a private agency. There werre simple experiments performed on a large scale like the one in Cleveland Ohio in 2006 where ambulances were using synthetic blood on patients without their consent. There have been other mass studies of HIV and STD's. Google it---many of the old studies are available online. I am a normal well educated soccer mom and I can tell you I don't even trust our government ( nor do any of my other soccer mom friends) They aren't out to get us---they just couldn't give a crap about our well being
...and this gives them the right to create an epidemic? Vodoo medicine. If Westerners wanted to kill off Muslims, they would simply fly planes into their buildings killing 4,000 at a time. Idiots.
What a bunch of inbred idiots. Some people just can't be reached with a lifeline. Drown in your own ignorance.
This is an example of what religious madness can do!
Here Islam, especially Sunni version, is the worst. The biggest irony is that we are in 21st century!
True, Jonathan my friend - and the Administration seems all to eager to arm the Sunni Al Nusra and Free Syrian Terrorist thugs and at the same time wants to take away our own Second Amendment. Alice in Wonderland never had a better vision, eh?
Idiots.
HOTTICKET: Thanks pal!
I know we are losing our battles on Syria and Iran.
Old habits die hard.
So many are marching and dancing as before Iraqi wars in Syria and Iran.
Who with some sense will impose sanctions on Iranian oil and manipulate oil prices from $40 around in 2009 to more than $110 now?
Iran can get as many nukes as it wants from Pakis!
At least, this time we are alive.
If we had opposed Iraqi wars we would have been kicked around.
At least, there is some improvement!
The Second Ammendment isn't being touched. President Obama signed a bill that allowed people to carry firearms in national parks. The hysteria that I see in some of these threads is hilarious.
There was previously a ban on assault rifles. The Second Ammendment survived. But when you see both Republican and Democrats who normally obey the NRA saying that they are having second thoughts about guns like the AR15, it gives one pause. I have an old Remington Nylon 66. Great little target rifle, and would be good for hunting sqirrell and other small game if I needed to. Don't see the point of the military style, unless it's to make insecure men feel more manly.
But to get back on target, the Pashtuns will only be hurting themselves if they don't let their children be immunized.
blueunicorn,
And if you're an old lady watching her grandchildren, two armed men break into your house, and you miss your first shot, what then? They're not Tommy guns. You dont spray bullets everywhere, but there are definitely many situations that would call for semi-automatic guns. And
They fashion their scare tactics after the EPA. Like the bible says, wild men. Let's ban Pakistan immigrants to the US.
Yes, these people are uneducated and many of them are backward. HOWEVER! Kudos to the CIA for taking a humanitarian program turning it in to a political objective(finding Bin Laden) and alienating a section of the Pakistani population therefore creating fear amongst them which is easily exploited by the radicals and the Taliban. Kind of like all the unintended consequences of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now who is dumber? Your average Pakistani or your typical public servant? I ask you.
Next question? Was this a Petraeus or Panetta idea because either one of them or both of them should be put out for public humiliation. Everyone who wants top down accountability for Benghazi should be calling for accountability on this as well.
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If they do not want the help that is a demand easy enough to meet. The UN needs to get its people out now. You have to question the wisdom of trying to save a nation with that mentality anyway.
Pakis dislike are flexible and varying with times.
They love our tax monies and they want arms to fight the enemies (real or invented) like India, Russia and Iran.
If Pakis take Russians' name then many in the US, Britain, France, Germany start jumping up and down like cold wars days!
During floods, earthquakes and other disaster times, naturally Pakis get back to earlier days: where are Amerikans?
Leaders are happy that they will have more to steal and loot!
Here also they many love Amerikans!
What I find startling is that Mr. Khan seems to be an educated person. Maybe he is just an evil and ruthless politician by promoting conspiracy theories about the vaccine.
We should just bail out of Pakistan and help those people in the world who won't be killing health workers who are striving to protect them and their chldren from this dreaded disease. Unfortunately it will leave Pakistan to be the greatest breeding ground for this illness probably infecting people beyond their borders.
Why help people who don't want to be helped?
I guess having been a polio pioneer makes me "more excited" accounts for my "lack of "bashfulness".....apologies to all, it's not my fault it's the vaccine!!!
This shows just how uneducated and fanatical these people are. Having a polio vaccination makes women less bashful and more excited??????
Hmmmmm....I might go for that...if it's true.
To bad its not true..but that be one good idea..sterilize Muslims!
And we would have got away with it, if it hadn't been for those medaling kids.
That's what they said at the Olympics.
a nuke would wipe out all the polio in that region
Hey, Pakis, the food is poison too. Stop eating.
Let nature take its course.
On the other hand, you can never completely discount the idea that sterilization has at least been thought of and seriously discussed.
So has the world ending tomorrow. That doesn't make it any less unlikely and ridiculous.
Hey Pakistan, our generous aid dollars have Pork on it, don't accept it!!
WOW!!!! Those crafty Paki Muslims, it takes a total idiot to come up with the USA is trying sterilizing them by keeping their children from contracting polio. If it weren't for the fact they are all a bunch of boy humping pedophiles to start off with it, I'd be for telling them it will make them all flaming homo's and butch dikes, but they don't have far to go in becoming that already. Why are we wasting any time, effort or money on these brainwashed lunitics? Leave there, stay out of their BS cultures, mindless fanaticism and let them destroy themselves. I am sure they will inflict upon themselves some type of pandemic decease that will wipe them out. The US does not need to be anywhere around there because we will be blamed.
Once more we sadly see, hatred, prejuide,intolerance and violence are the only diseases man has no vaccines for.All highly contagious. Nearly impossible to stop from spreading, once entrenched in an area.The only known cure for any of these is a change of the human heart.Unfortuately a rare event far too late for so most.
Yeah, thank heavens we don't have people quite this stupid and bizarre over here in the US.
Oops, yeah OK there's Michele Bachmann, Mike Huckaby, Rush Limbaugh, .... etc.
Add in Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and the President who went to Pakistan illegally to learn how to be just like them.
How many people have the three individuals you named killed because they did not like some activity? Your ignorance, based on some political ideology, is amazing, how in the world do manage to get up each morning without help and direction from some intelligent lifeform?
skibum609 Please get your 'facts' straight. While a young Obama DID go to Pakistan to visit a school friend, it wasn't an illegal visit. There has never been a BAN on travel to Pakistan, but there have been advisories against it at times. So the visit may have been ill advised, but it wasn't 'illegal'.
Don't burst his bubble Debbie! He is like one of our family members who was circulating a picture of President Obama getting off a helicopter with a book in his hand. What was the purpose of the little "right wing" circulation? To prove that Obama was a Radical Muslim Sympathizer. Guess who wrote the book that the President was holding? Fareed Zakaria!! It shows you what moderates and progressives are up against, similar to what the government of Pakistan is up against as far as the ignorance and lack of education so apparent in this article!
reterry (or is it retardy)
You're a @!$%# up.
Hey KC, KMSWA.
Wonder what pig pen that lawyer graduated from? The writer of this article has nothing better to write about except this kind of inflamatory, divisional article, printed in the worst news media MSNBC to cause divisions between the races !!!!!!!!!! SHAME SHAME SHAME .................................
Islam is a religion not a race and the idea that we send money to Pakistan or try to help them in any way is despicable.
Eradicating polio benefits everyone. The reason smallpox is not a problem is that we eliminated it from the world. If any population has polio than it is a threat to the world as it is easy to spread. I have traveled in the Third World and seen people with polio. It is not something to be complacent about.
No, Pas...SHAME SHAME SHAME on those raving lunatics who are dooming their own children to a dreadful disease.
Islam is not a religion.
It is a cult!
Most of the followers Islam know only stealing, looting, hating, killing, doing genocides, lying, fooling, weeping and chest beating when required, acting as big love and peace people after genocides and doing other dramas as during their Ramadans.
Most of the Muslims in non-Muslim nations are liabilities and curses on the societies and nations.
They want Sharia laws wherever they go. But they are not willing to move to nations with Sharia laws!
How many religions have become burdens on followers and people around?
All religions are cults, Jon. The terms are interchangeable.
It's just that the term "cult" has a stigma that "religion" does not.
You're also quite mistaken about the threat of Muslims in non-Muslim nations. Western nations with Muslim minorities do not have exceptional trouble with our Muslims. Despite your insistence, a Muslim is not inherently more difficult to assimilate than a Christian or Buddhist.
So France is not having trouble with their Muslims?
SF accountant: If most don't have problems with Muslims, especially Pakis, right in the US, then you are in your own world.
The Pakistani public is misinformed about the rest of the world, as are most Americans. Muslims more ignorant re their own religion than Christians. If only believers could handle historical knowledge without becoming violent, the planet would be a better place.
not only historical, but scientific. The Golden Age of Islam was ended when a powerful cleric in the 1100's declared mathematics the work of the devil. During the first 300 years of Islam, there were amazing strides in mathematics (hence our use of Arabic numerals, algebra (an Arabic word), and the majority of visible stars bearing Arabic names). After the declaration that such concepts were evil, the Muslim world went into a downward spiral from which it has never recovered.
Sadly we can see the same happening in this country among many conservative Christians who have launched a war on science. Many treat concepts in physics, astronomy, and biology and medicine as threats to their faith or as government plots. Such resistance is every bit as destructive as what we consider "silly" ideas amongst Muslims. I think we all need to look in the mirror before we start casting stones.
Nah, we should cast stones anyway.
The statement "makes our women more excited and less bashful" LOL, silly opium farmers. Smoking what they grow. Or maybe the needle is something to think of as big out there. HA
Backwards monkeys....
not a bad idea really but it would be easier to just use spray equipped drones.
This is probably a case of malignant intentions on the part of power-hungry "leaders" preying on the fears and ignorance of this population. This is one of the definitions of evil.
how sad is it that people even in this country believe rubbish like this. michelle backhmann and the HPV immunity shots that she insists causes mental retardation, even worse a good deal of people follow this line of thinking. just like the people who beleive it here, i hope polio takes those in pakistan and removes them from our gene pool
Not just Bachmann and the HPV issue. Look at the resistance to other well-established science throughout this country. Paul Broun in Georgia is on the science and technology committee and he says the Big Bang and Evolution are lies straight from the pit of hell. He's not alone.
We will be heading for our own dark ages if we don't stop the war on science the conservative Christians have launched. You think you're saving souls? Well, how much do you think the Communist Chinese will support your faith when they outpace us technologically because we thought it was God's will to get rid of science in this country?
I feel sorry for the children who will be affected by the polio issue in Pakistan. I understand why the people are suspicious of the West, especially given the leadership over there, but the fact that the governments in countries like Pakistan promote such idiocy is the real rub. Polio could become the second disease that we eradicate from the Earth, if only ignorance and power didn't get in the way.
But vaccines could be a good way to control populations there and here so the new World order can be implemented. Reduce the population of poor and needy so there is more for the rich....
The problem is science constantly changes, what is taught as fact one day changes the next. If single cell life forms are the foundation for life, then why do we still have them? Were they the stupid ones that didn't evolve? Is Pluto a planet or not? Science like religion tries to explain the sometimes unexplainable. Vaccines do cause sideffects, so they are a mixed bag. For some they are a blessing for others they are a curse. The thing to do is offer the vaccine, to those that want it, but don't force it on those that do no want it. I personally do not believe in them, I for myself do not get the flu shots (for the past 45 years) and rarely get sick, so for me they make no sence, I let my body develop it's own antibodys. Yet I can see why some would want the shots.
Stupid is, as stupid does. If they want their kids to die from polio so be it. Oh, and may God be praised for it.
ha, ha .....
Is it just me or when the pictures of paki life blurr the facial features from view that it looks like a scene from the walking dead?
"Western plot to sterilize Muslims.." sounds like a plan! Thumbs up!
In order to believe that the vaccine is a plot to sterilize Muslims they would first have to believe that we utterly hate them, gee, where would they get an idea like that?
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This is the best one yet. I agree with SJIS - these people are so stupid and why we waste our time, money, and lives is beyond me. They are no better than a speck of dirt under my feet. Let them continue to live in their cement block houses and starve.