The 23-year-old who was gang-raped in New Delhi and thrown from a bus has died from her injuries in Singapore, where she was being treated. NBC's Natalie Morales reports.
SINGAPORE — A 23-year-old Indian woman who was gang-raped and severely beaten on a bus in New Delhi died Saturday at a Singapore hospital.
The woman's horrific ordeal galvanized Indians to demand greater protections against widespread sexual violence, and her death was expected to intensify public demands for action by the Indian government.
The victim who has not been identified, "passed away peacefully" with her family and officials of the Indian embassy by her side," said Kelvin Loh, the chief executive of Mount Elizabeth Hospital, where she had been treated since Thursday. "The Mount Elizabeth Hospital team of doctors, nurses and staff join her family in mourning her loss," he said in a statement.
The woman and a male friend were traveling in a public bus after watching a film on the evening of Dec. 16 when they were attacked by six men who took turns raping her. They also beat the couple and inserted an iron rod into her body resulting in severe organ damage. Both of them were then stripped and thrown off the bus, according to police.
The woman was airlifted to Singapore on Dec. 26 for specialist treatment, but she had remained in extremely critical condition, Loh said.
The victim had already undergone three abdominal operations before arriving in Singapore, where her condition on Thursday was described as "extremely critical."
Photos: Police try to temper outrage over gang rape
"Despite all efforts by a team of eight specialists in Mount Elizabeth Hospital to keep her stable, her condition continued to deteriorate over these two days," said Loh on Saturday. "She had suffered from severe organ failure following serious injuries to her body and brain. She was courageous in fighting for her life for so long against the odds but the trauma to her body was too severe for her to overcome."
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The attack triggered nationwide protest over the lack of safety for women, culminating last weekend in pitched battles between police and protesters in the heart of the capital.
New Delhi has the highest number of sex crimes among India's major cities, with a rape reported on average every 18 hours, according to police figures. Government data show the number of reported rape cases in the country rose by nearly 17 percent between 2007 and 2011.
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's government seemed at first caught off guard by the reaction to the attack, which sparked a blame game between politicians and the police.
On Saturday he said that he was aware of the emotions the attack has stirred and that it was up to all Indians to ensure that the young woman's death will not have been in vain.
"These are perfectly understandable reactions from a young India and an India that genuinely desires change," Singh said in a statement. "It would be a true homage to her memory if we are able to channel these emotions and energies into a constructive course of action."
He said the government was examining the penalties for crimes such as rape "to enhance the safety and security of women."
Indian television channels said security had been tightened in New Delhi on Saturday in anticipation of more protests following the woman's death.
Reuters and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Protests continued across New Delhi, India, where around 500 people marched in response to the recent gang rape of a young woman. NBCNews.com's Dara Brown reports.
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Hope she was out when most of this happened to her - I think that it is brutally apparent that when people think they can get away with violence against others or animals - if their victim cannot speak - the more unspeakable acts they are willing to carry out.
What more bothers me is - it looks like entire civil population - whatever is left of it in Delhi - is out. They are just numb or just don't know how to treat women. That's f---- Delhi. 50% of India's ills emanate from there.
What? Her body did not will itself against rape? I thought male GOP politicians had that all figured out.
Suds: Crawl back into your hole you scum bag.
Maybe the women there should start carrying large handbags with big heavy sticks in them so they whoop a knot on some of these mens heads.... And not travel alone either.... Leave those attemting rape dead on the bus/in the alleys and so fourth.... Problem solved over a year or two....
This is sick!! Nobody deserves to be treated like this! The government and police in this country should havng their heads! They need to be ousted! I pray that she is able to survive this and through her pain and suffering changes be made!
@ warthog213-984171... "there should start carrying large handbags with big heavy sticks in them so they whoop a knot on some of these mens heads"
"A big heavy stick"? I take it you think that would prevent a gang rape from men intent on doing so. Now, if she was packing a .45 automatic, we wouldn't be talking about a "senseless gang-rape, but rather the brutal killing of a handful of sexual deviants bent on rape.... just a thought.....
Reading this story, it appears this horrific gang-rape happened on a bus. Where was everyone else? The driver? No one intervened or stopped this? Such a very sad state for women in this ugly world.
The type of men who do this do so because they get away with it. If these women started arming themselves (guns, knives, whatever) and fighting back and inflicting some pain, damage and even death, these thugs might rethink attacking the "defenseless" women since they now wouldn't know who is armed and who isn't. These attacks will never stop, but they certainly would be reduced. As to the argument that the weapon would be taken away from the women, considering the present alternative, at least let them have a fighting chance to take some of this evil down.
That this woman has suffered so senselessly and is struggling to live because of such a brutal act of evil is almost beyond my mind's acceptance. My heart hurts for this lady.
I guarantee those rapist gangs listen to Rap music. Indian style.
Go ahead and tell me the problem is not violence in media and music again.
This is so sick!! The government and police should hang their heads in shame! This government needs to be ousted and women rights established! They need protection! Nobody shoul have to go through this. I pray that what happened to her opens doors for changes!! Praying for this lady! Praying for a change!
I hope she makes it through.
Then I hope she goes on a killing spree.
"She should've carried a handbag with a big stick." "Women shouldn't travel alone." Blah blah blah, lots of bs from people advising women how NOT to get raped. How about addressing the male proclivity to rape en masse, on a bus no less, knowing that nothing will happen to them. But no, blame the victim for not protecting herself. Typical.
I HOPE!! that she can some how live a normal life after this ordeal. I can not even understand the horror women go through, from these horrific experiences they are forced to endure.. I do not have any inclination to harm women in anyway, and can not comprehend the purpose of rape. So what could be going through these sicko's minds to hurt someone else so severely, that is a child of our Father in Heaven. It has become terribly apparent, there are a numerous amount of people in this world, that have become violent and insensetive toward one another.
Suds in Denver appears to be high on pot, and demonizes everyone that wants him to be a more functional part of society. Fiscal cliff is threatening his E.U.C. (Federally Extended Unemployment Benefits), and he seems to blame unresponsible parties for his problems. Kind of like when someone that is elected to be a leader, and is not smart enough to intelligently think of ways to unite our country, and consequently suffers from unintelligent narrow mindedness.
Maybe she did something to deserve what she got? Not trying to be an A-hole here but maybe she did something to spark the attack..
Pretty sure that whole region over there has no concept of human rights, regardless of gender, race, creed, etc. In fact I have 2 American female friends who are dating men from that region of Asia/Middle East who are both currently finding out that apparently there are no quality men from over there due to the currently accepted standards for treating women that are passed from father to son in these regions. Both of my friends are routinely verbally and sometimes physically abused, made to tolerate infidelity, and made to feel inadequate as a matter of course. Really though, in my life I have yet to see, meet or hear about a single male person from that area that was anything other than worthless. Not one. Ever. I'd be in support of evacuating all women and children and then nuking the whole damn mess until it couldn't be recognized..
The more I learn about life over there the more it makes me so very glad that I was raised here, where males aren't barbaric, filthy excuses for human beings and females aren't objects for possession, to be used and discarded as trash..
So if you were brutally gang raped on a bus just what would you have done to "deserve" such an attack?
Chepe, Please tell me what anyone could possibly do to deserve being brutalized in this manner. Raped repeatedly by numerous violent creatures??? Are you suggesting that she had on a sexy dress maybe??? Yeah that would warrant this hideous attack, surely or maybe she had the audacity to speak to one of these so called men and that provoked them. Chepe you are an idiot to think that any action on this young lady's part would make her deserving of such a brutal and barbaric act!!! What if this happened to your mother, sister or daughter, would you feel the same way that they deserved it!! What a POS you are for even thinking this. Even if she was a prostitute she wouldn't have deserved what happened.
@Kathy-531928, I agree with your comment 100%. As demonstrated in our society, we are inclined to discuss the victim of sexual assault moreso than we are the sexual predator. The reason why is because it scares most people to think -- I mean really have a clear understanding -- that the sexual predator is a far cry from the myth that we've allowed ourselves to believe in and that gives us comfort -- you know, the myth that we would spot a sexual predator a mile away, the myth that they wear trench coats, and are weird, socially awkward types driving windowless vans with candy in their pockets hanging out in alleys, behind bushes and on playgrounds. The fact of the matter is that sexual predators are husbands, fathers, coaches, preachers, doctors, lawyers, politicians and brothers. And yes, you are married to them and you date them and you're intimate with them. There is absolutely nothing preventing a sexual deviant from having a job, being a productive and even successful member of society and still have proclivities for sexual violence against women and children. Jerry Sandusky, anyone? Many say rape, particularly of this magnitude, is about power. But I choose to believe that it is more than that. It takes a certain type of mentally impaired person to inflict this level of violence, sexual or not, on a defenseless person, in public, in a gang environment. That person is capable of ANYTHING. And as for women, there is no surefire way of going about your day while guaranteeing you won't be targeted for this type of violence. There are things we can do to ensure we are taking all of the necessary safety precautions we can, but I'm sorry, safeguarding against being violently gang raped while riding on a public bus is just not something women should have to think about, but unfortunately, in some countries it is. I also think the phenomenom of people standing by watching violent crimes occur is a large part of the problem. There were at least 15 people watching a man get crushed by a NY city subway. How many people saw some of these mass shooters on their way to do harm and had a weird feeling about that person's demeanor or even saw the weapon but thought "not my problem". We have become a society of mute witnesses. It's sad. Indeed. An ambulance pulled in front of my neighbor's house. His wife was taken out on a stretcher. I went over to make sure everyone was okay. Her husband explained to me what happened and it just didn't sit well with me. For sure, they both are very nice people and I've never had any reason to suspect anything, but something in me kept saying "something's not right". I lived with that feeling for a few hours until I finally sought advice from the police department. Sure enough, the attending physician had filed a police report for spousal abuse. I will be doing my part by testifying and what he said to me in an excited utterance will be key to that case.
my thoughts exactly. how can anyone deserve getting raped let alone thrown out of a moving bus which isnt normal. these guys weren't just looking for quick fast pumping sex but they were trying to really do harm to her. whatever the reason they shall regret their actions.
Scumbags i hope that their camels bear children that look like goats. thank you berry much..i must leave on the red dot special because i only be here a short distance thank you berry much
Cheap Vargas - that's what I said, but people on this thread seem to blindly disagree and prefer to collapse the comments.
@greenchilegranny Let me tell you a little story. One of my best friends had everything going his way. He worked hard for his money. Had a house, a car etc. He then met this one girl that only used him for his money. The whole time they were together she was seeing somebody else. This went on for a couple of years before my friend found out the truth. When my friend found out he was devastated and went into a very bad depression. He lost everything... He's life is ruined because of her. She had very bad intentions..In my opinion she would be somebody that deserves something like this. Maybe it will be hard for you to picture the magnitude of the pain she created for my friend because you were not there to see it but the things she did to him were heartless. Now let me clarify that I have nothing against women. I love women.. My mom is a woman and i have a lot of respect for them, but some people do deserve what comes their way. Not only women but men also.. and to prove it i am not going to call you any names or disrespect you in any way. This is just my opinion just as you have yours and I respect it.. Plus my parents always told me to respect the elderly granny..You have a happy new year..
First of all, you guys don't know the entire situation - This girl was with a friend of hers late night trying to catch a bus to go home,after watching a movie & about 5 men lured them to take a bus once the couple got in after driving for a minute they attacked her friend with a metal rod & after they gang raped her & did the most damaging thing EVER they used a "L- shaped" rusted rod & inserted it with so much pressure that it pulled her intestines out & that's the damage that these savages had done to a girl after which they threw her & her friend out of the bus onto to the middle of the rd.
This is not because they were listening to RAP music or anything of that sort - This is because there's no Humanity anymore there's no conscious & we are becoming savages in our own ways!
I really hope she recovers & justice be done.
Sorry Chepe.....but unless your "friend" was a child he could have walked away from this woman at any time. To stay in a relationship that is toxic is NOT comparable to a woman on a bus getting gang raped. Yes, you have an opinion and should be able to express it but the rest of us can tell you how wrong we THINK you are!!!!
Disgusting the way people treat other living beings. Am I the only one that had just a twinge of hope that the world actually WOULD HAVE ended? It is more rotten than not and the man upstairs should just throw the towel in and start again from scratch.
Kathy-531928,
People like you are just as bad as people who blame the victim. Its not that we blame the victim, but women do have to be careful. Do you know how often us guys hear to never rape a woman, no means no, etc. Hell, everyone that went to my college had to hear it. Most guys would never do this. I would never do this. But even if you tell guys not to rape some will. There will always be some guys that do this. Always, in any culture, anywhere. So telling women to be on guard and protect themselves is not blaming them. Its just like black people should not walk into a kkk meeting. Sure everyone is told not to be racist, and they should be allowed to walk anywhere that is public land, but to stay safe they should avoid the kkk. Its not their fault, but a warning. So get off your damned soap box and realize not everyone is blaming the victim when we warn women to be on guard and carry protection.
Afternoon Mr Burns.
Well said!
My heart goes out to you mam and all that have shared your suffering.
This is the heart of our "terrorist" problem. These men are keeping men like them in power and even replacing men that dont do this with men that will. It is my belief that Islam and other religions like it are driven by the fact that it excuses these horrific crimes against woman. I believe horrible men want to do this and that is the entire agenda of the MBH. We dont have a terrorist issue, we have a mass rapist/ woman murder issue. Take this from them and they wont be "religious terrorist", they will be out right criminals. I strongly believe the men in ME exist to rape woman, solely, and that is why they have such a bond between them, that created "terrorist".
Arm the women and teach them how to defend themselves - and that it's ok to do so. In the meantime, while they're taking care of themselves (which they shouldn't have to mind you, but you can't blink and change the world just like that), drill it into the men that this is not acceptable or to be tolerated, and make public examples of those who do these types of acts. A lot of this stems from the attitude of the region, and while what happened to this woman is horrible beyond belief, it seems to have finally been the catalyst for the women to say they've had enough and work to change that attitude.
maybe we can create a product for the woman that are faced with horrible men.
A chastity belt that has a guillotine...and I am being very serious...we invent all kinds of stuff why not something that keeps these animals afraid of attacking a beautiful creature.
ElectroFreak:
So why are these American women dating guys who treat them like that? How much more do they have to know?
your story is horrible:
there is no law that states the woman in your story had to be anything but what she was. Who said she had to have allegiance to him, who said she is wrong for wanting something else....life is not guaranteed to be happy...why does your friend have no value of himself outside of his relationship with her...that's what his problem was....and sir...you may have committed a crime here by stating this woman deserves to be raped and beaten within an inch of her life, like the woman in this article. To me, this thinking allows you to convince yourself that people deserve to get raped and beaten for hurting the "feelings" of another....that is very sick. You need help. Go get it. I am also flagging your comment as a person who could possible do something of the same magnitude that was displayed in New Delhi....over feelings...good freaking grief. Feelings makes you want to commit a crime...? OMG feelings....really. Feelings are not a reason to do anything at all ever.
Rape is strictly the pervue of cowards and bullies, be it by a single individual or a gang.. There are certain types of guys that commit rape.. Those that are so terrified of women the only way they can convince themselves they are 'macho' is by using force, fear and intimidation.. Then there are the 'pretty boys'.. They think because, in their own minds, they are so 'beautiful' that no woman has a right to refuse their attentions and they become enraged when one turns them down.. These guys I classify as a combination of 'control freak' and 'megalomaniac'.. They are usually the result of being smothered and babied, well into adulthood, by their mothers and/or female relatives..
Then there are the males brought up by vicious and abusive parent/s.. Though mostly abused by the male parent they resent and hate their mothers for not protecting them from their abuser, even though she may be the main punching bag in the house and completely unable to help herself, much less her children.. These guys grow up watching their fathers dominate, terrify and brutally beat family members and, by the time they are teens, they feel women are good for nothing but beating on and being screwed, the more painfully, the better.. Sadly, as children, they may want nothing more then to see the abuse end and they vow never to hurt their own children the same way, but it's a proven fact that by the time they reach adolescence they are well on their way to being exactly like the abusive parent, carrying on the vicious cycle!
But, of course, the worst of the lot is the gang rapers.. These guys are all cowards and, most likely, would never commit such brutality when alone for fear of getting caught or even bested by the female.. Only in a crowd do they feel they are 'powerful' and 'in control' of the situation.. Goading each other on is the only way they can 'get it up', so to speak, because as 'men' they leave so much to be desired by the opposite sex.. Alone, they are afraid, hopeless and utterly inept with women.. So, they blame women for these feelings and use rage to try and wipe them out, but it's all to no avail.. Once the rage is gone they are once again tiny, little insignificant beings who mean little or nothing to anyone else in the world..
The women in India have been second class citizens for centuries, as are women in most other areas of the Middle-East and Asia.. What we have to try and remember here in the US is American men, for the most part, do not feel as threatened by women and, in fact, realize that treating women on an equal basis has enable this country to rise to it's greatest potential.. Don't misunderstand, we have our share of rapists, that's for sure, and the above descriptions apply to them just the same..
But it's terribly sad and tragic that many countries overseas not only refuse women equal rights but use religion as a means of keeping them subservient.. A lot of the male-dominated Middle-East relies on this and on physical threats and force to keep women 'in line'.. We can only hope that there will come a time when such men are replaced permanently by younger, better educated, more opened minded men who realize they squandering 1/2 of their own best resources..
Chepe vargas
Yeah... I think she had a "please gang rape me" sign on. DumbA**
My young daughter of 20 just came back from India after six months on her study abroad program. While we talked about her positive experience in Indian history and ancient culture, she shocked me when we asked about the people. She summarized it in one sentence "Indian men are pigs." And this brutality and rape of a young college student during broad daylight illustrates the truth that "Indian men are pigs." What were the rest of the people in the bus doing while she getting raped by a bunch of them? - they were indifferent. That's how Indian men are, they think life of a woman is expendable. Their culture allows boys and men get away with murder and rape - this is nothing new. Their laws and social structures are such that men can indulge into this type of stone-age animal behavior without any consequences. This comes from the millenia old Indian tradition of valueing men more than women even within the same family. I have also noticed among the Indian families that we know in US, they would do the same, treat their girls worse than their boys.
Indians always think boys are assets and girs are liabilities - and that's where the root of all evil lies. Everyone in US blames Muslim countries for not treating their women right, just learn closely about Indian culture and you would know what the Indians really do with their girls and women. They are alwasy treated as third class citizen even in their own country, very sad indeed!
And yes, I agree with all the bloggers here - the Indian politicians and their police forces should hang their heads in shame - a lot of shame!!!
We in this country have issues with men treating women bad. They beat, rape and abuse them but no to the extent that they do in most every other country! All we can do is try to eduacate men and women to raise their boys and girls at a young age to have respect for ALL people! You don't have to raise your children to feel they are superior to ANYONE! We are all human beings. That said, there is no way that everyone is going to listen. There are people with no brains that connot grasp simple human understanding. There are people that will hate, kill, abuse, rape, bully and belittle people no matter what you say. We as parents have to do our part when raising our children to try and stop what we can. These other countries will never be superior to ours as long as they continue to ALLOW these things to happen. If they were harsh in their punishment with abusers and rapists and killers of women they would have to start having respect. If the law makers don't set an example to start with no one will listen!
I read this story this morning and couldn't believe it. Has it really come to this?! That certain elements that, by the fact that they are men, we must call human beings are worse and far more depraved than we ever thought possible?
I wish this young woman the best. And I hope every last one of her attackers hangs for this--although I would be incredibly happy with a public castration for each of them--without anesthesia.
Sadly, it was just reported that she died. Now we dont have to worry about death or life sentence. All 6 deserve death. It was murder, plain and simple.
God help this innocent woman that has endured more than she should have to in a lifetime. The fact that no one on that bus helped her is a SIN! May those that just watched burn in Hell! Even the driver raped her!
If the police can't solve this brutal crime then they should all be fired and forced to return their salaries for the past year.
How can any man even want to do such evil to any other human being?! How can any man even think of doing such evil to anyone?
Are the men that live in New Delhi taking viagra to have one rape reported every 18 hours?
These men are below the lowest form of life. I'm sure God's punishment for them is going to be l o n g and U G L Y!
Rest my dear child! There are millions of decent people praying for you!
Where were the bystanders, the bus driver the POLICE! Terrible society that allows this to go on. Her attackers must be evil to the core.
God Bless her soul and may she be in peace at last. Heartfelt condolences to her boyfriend, family and friends and those innocent people who were not able to defend and save her. (children or women to afraid to come to her rescue.)
India needs a WAKE UP call that this will not be tolerated and find her attackers and give her justice and to stop this from happening again, and it will until they know it will not be allowed to happen. Heathens!
eleanor,
So women get a pass for not helping her, but not the men? Nice double standard there sexist.
Oh, and the bus only had the perps on it, including the driver. Invest some time into learning a story before you start spouting off bs.
And they arrested the men. Wake up to what? Seriously, get a life creature.
if she had a gun with her.. she might still be alive today ..oh wait .. I forgot .. guns kill people, but she is dead and no gun was involved .. hmmmm I am confused ..
The Equalizer-2838936,
Please read the following story posted by ICE-FRIED just above and you will know the real story. The bus driver was also the part of that rapist gang and it was a off-duty bus.
First of all, you guys don't know the entire situation - This girl was with a friend of hers late night trying to catch a bus to go home,after watching a movie & about 5 men lured them to take a bus once the couple got in after driving for a minute they attacked her friend with a metal rod & after they gang raped her & did the most damaging thing EVER they used a "L- shaped" rusted rod & inserted it with so much pressure that it pulled her intestines out & that's the damage that these savages had done to a girl after which they threw her & her friend out of the bus onto to the middle of the rd.
This is not because they were listening to RAP music or anything of that sort - This is because there's no Humanity anymore there's no conscious & we are becoming savages in our own ways!
I really hope she recovers & justice be done.
PS: She died about an hour ago at around 5:30 PM EST.
@!$%# candles !!!
Time has come for Indians to take machettes in their hands and cut down all the bastard slimy politicians, the corrupt policemen and the petty 2 bit gangsters who are emboldened by the total breakdown of law and order in the country.
C'mon India - Out on the streets - NOW !!!!
Well thanks to the Brits trying to get other countries to think they can live other than animal like. They went there in the 20's and tried to run that country. It's a damned shame this takes place. But it didn't just start yesterday. We are just hearing more because of internet and social media.
Mr. Burn's,....Solid and Commensenseful advice Sir.
Chepe...You should have advised your friend to exit his situation without hesitation. The ideals cultivted in me are to distance mysel from emotionally and physically abusive situations. Although, they both can be damaging, the emotionally abusive situation is not being forced upon your friend. His apttude to be stubborn, has caused his situation. In my estimation, there are persons on here compassionate to your situation, for we have all met with our share of people from both genders that emotionally abuse others for gain.
People on this discussion line apparently aren't clued in that these things happen in this country, as well. AND victims are re-victimized by law enforcement and the courts. A woman's sexual history is up for examination, scruitiny and sensationalization in the media. Fortunately, in this country at least now and then the perpetrators SOMETIMES get what they deserve.
Someone else on this line said it best: the problem lies with men who think they have the perfect right to treat women any damn way they please...and then there are others on this line who think it's a woman's fault. I did my internship at a Rape Crisis center 25 years ago...I couldn't believe the numbers of NURSES in the ER, when the victims were brought in, who would say things like: "well, look at the way she's dressed" and "what was she doing there at that time of night?" YES, poor judgement sometimes brings about horrific consequences. But why is it a woman doesn't have the same rights a man does re where they go and how they dress???? No one can even adequately answer that question.
Poor woman just passed away! Maybe everyone needs to take a good hard look at the way you treat others, teach your children, don't expect them to learn good on their own you have to TEACH them good. Teach them how to treat others by YOUR example! How you treat your children and other people is a reflextion of how they will treat others! RIP young lady!
Just want to point out that a group of civilians has been roaming france and gang raping women as well and to my knowledge they havent' arrested them all. It was in the news a couple of months ago but i'm not sure the status. This isn't just an india problem there are sick people everywhere to be sure. France is a developed nation where women have rights and this too happend there to a couple of women.
Is it just me, or is it rather insulting for "Christians" to say God Bless Them when the persons involved in the story are extremely unlikely to have been any form of Catholic at all, considering they were from India?
Just a thought.
@niece1964,
Bravo, and thank for taking my thoughts and eloquently expressing them. And may I add, that a united front of nurturing children as a family, nieghbors and friends is the best treatment for the continued circle of violence between others. May we all be like Mrs. Soto of Newtown, selfless and caring. And I would like to add my condolences to the family of this young inspirational woman. And may we all strive to be more intelligent being's that our Father in Heaven expects us to be, and less animalistic giving into our natural whims that causes strife.
Chepe Varges, your friend was a grown man and as such he had the ability to walk away from the relationship he was with that woman who was using him.
The woman in this instance was attacked by a group of guys where she had no way out at all. What woman could fight off the 5 animals attacking her.
Hypothetical, NO..it's not an insult. If I hear a person at the grocery store Sneeze I automatically say "God Bless You". It's a blessing. I don't check to see if they believe in God or not.
Looks like that country needs stricter regulations on iron rods!
And on who can ride the bus!
And more laws against rape!
That should do it!
The steelworkers that made that iron rod have blood on their hands!
Since the beginning of time men have raped women, it has nothing to do with sex. It is a method used to frighten and humiliate women,a way to keep them "in line".... If these men were running around raping other grown men, this would have been stopped along time ago. Too many try to blame the victim by saying ignorant things about the way they were dressed or what they were doing, too many turn a blind eye and refuse to step in and stop the attacker(s) and too many police officers take the act lightly, unless the victim is horribly injured.
Men who oppose this need to let their opposition known. They should also be willing to step in when necessary. Men need to realize the victim is someone's daughter and/or sister and/or girlfriend and/or wife and/or and/or mother and a human being as well.
Hypothetical Why should anyone be insulted by someone expressing what they consider to be a sign of goodwill for another human being? Just because you or the person they referred to may not believe the same things, does not alter the intent.
To the other people who say death or violence is the answer to this problem, I say locking them up for the rest of their lives makes more sense. Why should we sink to the level of the criminals?
99.99% of Indians are law-abiding, decent, family-oriented folks. In a nation of more than 1.5 Billion, you are bound to find a handful of criminal types.
Heck, every day I pick up an American or UK paper----I see far WORSE in the news. So enough of the "holier than thou" attitudes......
As far a how girls are treated in India----women have equal rights. Women have equal rights under the law--whether you are talking about education, inheritance, etc. In many families, the girls are treated like princesses---pretty clothes, dance lessons, private school, etc. Even the victim in this case--her father, a poor farmer, sold his land to educate his daughter.
Let me add to my prior comment: India had a female prime minister for many, many years. There are many female members of Parliment. There are quite a few chief ministers of different states. There are female lawyers, engineers, journalists, business owners, etc. There is no limit to what a woman can achieve in India.
Let me also add that I feel comfortable walking down any Indian street, in any town, city, or village. I have never had any problems, at all.
chepe no offense but your boy is a sucker!!! How many times do guys like us ditch girls after sex because we weren't feeling them like that. It goes both ways. As guys we just can't accept the fact that women can also be conniving but we all make mistakes. All of us. Sometimes we do it because its been done to us and it empowers us to get over our hurt by causing the hurt to someone else. Hope your friend got over her and is happy because as much hurt as Ive had in my life I am happy where I'm at and have no regrets even if things could be better. Hell I was mad at my x for denying me a lapdance and she was a freaking lapdancer! Screw her and move on but I would never which anything bad upon her or any of my x's. Plus this girl was severly beat and raped in front of her man!
@ Chepe:
What a cry-baby story - and pathetic if true. Your friend was truly weak and blind if it took him a couple of years to "find out" she was doing someone else. Your "friend" had the free will to make his choices. And if he chose to turn over so much of his life, money and well-being to this girl, he's pretty much a pathetic and sad idiot! And if his life was destroyed over his girlfriend doing him wrong - he clearly needs help with what are his own serious and deep problems. So give me a break! An idiot choosing to turn over control of his life to some warm body doesn't even come close to being in the same realm as this tragic, evil crime!!
This woman did not have the free will to walk away. And you are a sick a hole to even think of the two situations in the same thought.
And the award for Stupidest Comment of the Night goes to:
Chepe vargas
Don't worry Chepe, you didn't have to try at all....
The unfortunate luck of being born in a third-world, shi*-hole, cesspool country if you are a woman. My heart breaks for this woman and can only hope that the animals that did this suffer in the same manner. But they won't, that's right, they are from a third-world, shi*-hole, cesspool of a country where wiping your butt with your hands is still the norm.
Mr. Burns i as a woman completely disagree with you calling eleanor sexist for her comment about women not being able to help. It is not sexist to state that women are on average physically weaker than men although yes we can do damage to someone else. The "men" in this situation were raping a WOMAN not another man. what women would try to attack a group of men that were already raping another WOMAN? I would have called the authorities and if i had a weapon perhaps i would have done some damage, but otherwise there would be little chance i would try to interfere in that way fearing that i might too fall victim. You sound a little bitter making that statement... do you have problems with women in society? It makes me wonder based on that comment. Now statistically speaking a group of other MEN would have a much greater chance of injuring the men as they are more equal physically. This isn't about sexism this is about how different the male and female body are. Maybe your name just annoys me as it represents an eogtistical ahole exec elitist on a once popular sitcom. It may just be your name in real life I don't know but calling her sexist over that is childish given the circumstance.
That what happened to her happened "in front of her man" matters much less than what happened to her.
Rapists will always exist as thieves, robbers, murderers, serial killers etc. Protecting yourself with a gun is one way for protection, but another way is situational awareness. Either way the outcome will be less worse than if you were pre-occupied by a text message, phone, drunk, stoned, or just your nose in the air.
I'm so sorry to learn of this promising young woman's death. I had hoped...
NBC, can you at least publish the young lady's name??? Who was she???
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I've had 7 abdominal operations (the woman attacked had 3), my abdomen is like a balloon that has been blown up too many times - one twist or extended reach and my pain level soars and I swell up. It sounds like a piece of re-bar was rammed up inside this woman - that would surely kill me. You idiots (men and women) who think it is okay to insert fists and baseball bats in your partner - you are playing with death, get a clue.
Our corporations abuse workers in other countries all the time - still think regulations are needless?
I am truely saddened that she has passed away.... I was hoping that she would get to identify the men who did this to her and get to see them punished....
Hopeful American
Well done. I agree with all you have said.
India's first PM, Jawaharlal Nehru was a rape expert; fake from top to bottom with a Gandhi cap; highly arrogant and self centered one with no morals.
Along with him came his Gandhi dynasty. His dynasty members were worse and these days, they are ruling and one can't call them and their Gandhi cap gang members as normal human beings.
Nehru/Gandhi dynasty and gang members have given India one of the most corrupt investigation agencies and judicial system. Media dances as they want.
With hardly six percent convictions rates, these types of rapes are going on and on all over India.
But talk about: lectures on morals, honesty and so on, Gandhi cap rulers have been experts.
At the same time, human history has not seen such barbarians and beastly as the Nehru/Gandhi dynasty rulers and their Gandhi cap gang members.
These days an uneducated Italian mafia boss is ruling India. What can you expect with such rulers?
Dayum! U collapsed this?:
"Afternoon Mr Burns.
Well said!"
Dayum!
@Equalizer:
First things first:
Hang 'em high. The bus was not a public bus - it was taken illegally by these drunk criminals, no one else on the bus. "Driver" was one of them. Tinted windows, posed as a transport service, poor victims did not suspect this. Police did not stop as they may not have known, failures in many areas but not "complicit" or "condoned" as some might have us believe.
That being said, you have some gross over-generalizations in your post:
Starting with your daughter - "Indian men are pigs."
No, that is an over-generalization.
Then you joined in, with "And this brutality and rape of a young college student during broad daylight illustrates the truth that "Indian men are pigs.""
Another over the top generalization. There is no such "truth" to "illustrate". Remember that it was six criminals who did this. For their act, you must not generalize by equating all Indian men in this way.
As far as crooked politicians and corrupt officials - agreed on that part. However in this case I don't think the police saw or suspected what was happening - failure on their part, not complicity.
Jonathan:
What "medication" are you on???
vault55: Sometimes, those who are on medication, imagine that others are medication too like them.
One of the medications are religious madness (of course, Islamic is the worst)!
Add half-educated to the deadly mix.
They don't like facts and realities!
Your answers to Equalizer give an idea. The bus was impounded about six times and under Congress rule no one gets charged.
There are more.
But it will be waste of time trying to improve or educate those on high medication and that too abnormal human beings.
Are you seriously thinking I'm a muslim, no I'm not. And yes, it is a waste of time arguing with uneducated Trolls like you.
I'd like to hear more about what steps they've taken to find the criminals and crack down on gangs in the area. It is shameful that a busload of people did nothing. That is incomprehensible.
Everyone on the bus except the victims were participating in the attack. They planned it out that way. Awful.
valut55: Half-educated are worse than uneducated. You will not be making nonsense comments like you have made if you knew all the details.
For idiots, everyone else is a troll.
I can guess the place you are coming from as some of the most immoral and greedy beasts are centered in some areas of India.
People from those places are liabilities and curses wherever they go!
Those places need to have "ring around" them.
This woman is struggling to survive, but the police in India are not even looking for the suspects. Instead, they are trying to quell demonstrations against gang rape, which seems like they should be doing the opposite. Let the infuriated residents take matters into their own hands and eliminate the rapists, since the cops won't do it.
backtobasics, the 6 men who did this were arrested very quickly. the debate now is either life in prison or death.
The perpetrators was identified quickly. Last I saw, the question was whether or not to arrest and charge them.
WHY that's a question is another matter entirely.
allison2 the question should be to release them totally naked in highly populated gay prison setting and turn the tv up really loud for about 4 hours then prosecute whats left of them. but then I'll probally be chastised for saying than someone will be offended
Cut to the Todd Akin interview....
Frank, great idea but thinking of a more subtle way to get the message across, thinking of a few gallons of gas and a match. If that was my daughter, I would strike it in a heart beat and never blink.
This dear lady was a medical student. She was in school to become a doctor and save lives and now she is dependent upon the medical community to save her life. I can only hope that this tragedy is the much needed wake up call for equality amongst the people of India. It has been an encouraging sign to see so many men protesting.
Death is an appropriate sentence; however, first they should be tortured like she was and then hung up by their testicles!! Harsh you say...NO!! Oh, I forgot...it should be done publicly for the entire world to see. My heart hurts so deeply for this young woman.
Frank, only in the US would anyone be offended by your sentence. I am a woman and I think it's a great idea.
From the article: "raped for almost an hour".
If she is brain-damaged & "struggling against the odds, and fighting for her life" a person could assume that she is not talking or even aware of her surroundings. Please tell me: where did they get this information?
Poor thing.
Frank, no chastisement from me! I LIKE your idea. It's very cost effective and definitely gets the "point" across! I am always puzzled when I hear about areas like New Delhi, (a rape reported every 18 hours, and who knows how many more never reported?) wondering why women don't arm themselves. A sharp knife would do wonders!
Terrible things. But I wonder maybe it's also possible that she did something really f-d up to someone, hence the retailation.
allison, I pick death.
Tommy - Only a very sick mind against women would state what you just did. You need to find out why you hate women.
"A sharp knife would do wonders!"
Unfortunately Robin, in THEIR society trying 2 defend herself would only get her stoned 2 death in the public square.
Sad, I know.
I don't hate women. Only a very sick mind would state what you just did. I assumed it as a possibility, it's not like we live in a peachy world.
As much as I hate gun violence, I wish we could arm all of the women of the mid east!! I guarantee that if we arm and train them on how to use the weapons, things will change. Women are not dogs! Women are human beings! Rights for women are under attack all over the world, including the US!! It's time to fight back! Forget class warfare. Soon, it will be gender warfare! I think the women of this world have had enough! It's time to stop this nonsense!
That is some big-time, major league retaliation. Additionally, to use rape and gang rape at that to "even a score"...mmm...ever stop to think that the perps were just violent, sicko creeps that had probably raped before this event and got away with it???
Time to grow up, Tommy, and leave your little victim blaming mind behind. This girl lives in a third world hell hole where women are treated like garbage. Muslims are the worst, but the other superstitions are also women haters/fearers. Women are killed just for being women. Women are killed because of the insanity in the various religions and cultures, not because they "did" something. Get it? Now, put your man pants on and shut up until you educate yourself about these hell holes.
Or maybe in a city where a rape occurs every 18 hours, the perpetrators felt they wouldn´t be punished. You know, sometimes crime happens for no reason at all. Geez.
Chefaz - perhaps. We'll never know.
Pray Hard - please shut up and keep praying to your christian god. How many women and boys were raped in the name of your religion? Too many. So keep praying!
what makes you think gays are rapists? i am gay and not a rapist. you people are just as bad, by accusing and assuming of others. this poor girl shall get her reward soon if she passes. but too make assumptions about all gays or anyone of a different stature than your own, amkes you all just as bad and will be judged as such someday also! God help you for your ill will towards others.
Afternoon Tommy Gunn!
A P R has some serious issues with men.
Click on her profile & read from her past posts.........
(It's a wittle scary.)
"A sharp knife would do wonders"
This was a gang rape--a knife, while she would have probably inflicted some damage, could have been taken away from her by force. She would have been better protected if she had a gun, but even that, in the face of a gang, would have been taken away from her if there were more gang members than bullets. But at least she would have been able to have half a chance of surviving, and there would be a few less gang members terrorizing the city.
This poor woman, if she survives at all, will have BRAIN DAMAGE to contend with
Maybe...maybe not...
You directed that at Pray Hard. Personally, I have no idea if Pray Hard has a religion but I can tell you that I do and take great offense to what you've written. NO ONE was raped in the name of a religion. If you're referring to the cover-up in the Catholic Church, that's exactly what it was - a cover-up by higher ups more concerned about their precious reputation than protecting families. Predators go where there is prey and pedophiles are predators. You've conveniently left out school teachers, children's organizations and the list can go on. Put the blame where the blame needs to be put - IN THE RAPIST'S LAP.
I will take the time to include you in my Prayers.
Right on Lisa C.....
@ U don't say-3994780, she wasn't braindamaged from the get go. She was able to communicate quite clearly initially. A few days after the rape most of her intestines were removed due to the extensive damage sustained when the rapists kicked her repeatedly 'to teach her a lesson'. Her health degraded considerable thereon and she was airlifted to Singapore in the hope of getting her into a country with liberal organ transplan laws. It was enroute that her condition destabilized so completely.
Some of the rapists ARE asking for the deathpenality, I suspect they are afraid of what fate is going to befall them once they enter prison. I suspect they will not live long once they are let loose in main pop of the prisons there.
chefaz - if you read Pray's comments, you'll understand the nature of my post. But please include me in your prayers. I could use a few. Thanks!
Tommy, in a society where rape is as common as drunk driving or petty theft (not restricted to those apprehended and charged) in the United States; where, EVERY DAY, someone is raped & assaulted simply because that person is a woman and, therefore, by the sick reasoning of the 'society', they are second class citizens and subject to the whims of any male person who might care to abuse them, a woman does not have to do anything that might spawn 'retaliation'. And to suggest such a thing displays a clear lack of understanding of the Indian society. And, while you may disown any sense of animosity toward women, the very fact that you could put forth such an argument that the victim might, in some way, be responsible for her own abuse taints your words and suggests to others that you, much like the people who perpetrate such horrors on a daily basis in India, (as well as other countries around the world- including the United States) on some level, hold women in lower regard than their male counterparts.
It hints that you feel women are lesser human beings than men. This kind of sub-conscious mind set is exactly the problem women have been fighting against for centuries. To suggest that the victim is responsible for being raped makes about as much sense as saying a shooting victim is responsible for his or her own death because, had they had the audacity to be standing where the bullet was traveling! Or an infant deserves to be beaten because he wet his diaper! There is absolutely no world where rape is justifiable under any circumstances.
Most Rapes done by most Indian politicians, government officers, police officers and their sons. This is the main reason that they are not taking rape case seriously and NOT showing rapist faces on TV and news papers. Almost all law-makers and law-keeprs are involved in this. That's why Delhi is considered as 'Rape City'. Looking at CNN and other media report, there are more than 24,000 rapes reported/year in India.
Even Indian President Son himself gave negative statement for protesters. What you can expect from this government???
Police claims that they have captured all 6 rapist for this case but who knows they are real or fake, as they never show all faces to victim girl and her friend. It is possible that at least one or two must be son of polititions or Sr. Government officers.
Even after these much protest, Indian government, Police and law makers are so weak that they need months to make dicision on how to handle this one case. How do you expact from Indian Rapist government that they are giving justice to all other rape victims??
@ Tommy Gunn-4037400 The fact that you'd disparage God in the hopes of insulting another, leads me to believe that you have nothing of value to add to this discussion. I'll be flagging the rest of your posts as inflammatory.....
I did read it. Pray Hard mentioned nothing about his/her own beliefs but if they had, why attack the beliefs??? Total derail.
You have been included.
Tommy Gunn and U don't say;
Little children are raped just as viciously. Does that mean they did something bad to someone to warrant such treatment? Watch what you say. It shows your bias quite clearly. In addition, this person was raped on a bus, which I can safely assume was sufficiently populated with fellow bus goers. That equates to WITNESSES. So, it doesn't matter that the victim may very well not be able to speak at this time. There were many other sets of eyes and ears present on that bus during the incident. So the statement that this victim was raped for almost an hour is quite valid.
What I find most interesting is what the hospital is NOT saying in regards to the woman's injuries. I can only imagine the actual extent of the damage done to her body, in more than one place.
I must say, I'm not surprised at all that this happened in India, one of the countries that slaughters their female fetuses and newborns in the name of sex preference.
Texson - I disparage God because people I don't believe in God within the same context as most believers. I don't see you adding anything valuable to the discussion either. And why is this even a discussion? Will you remember this woman next week? No. So it's just another little article that occupies our daily minds. That's all. You and 99.99% of people in this thread won't do jack s*** about this beside talk. So we are talking!
Chefaz - because he points to Muslims. That's why.
The Word Smith - wow, you overanalyzed what's going on and missed the point. I am not sure how it is that I think lesser of women. I don't think lesser of women. It doesn't matter if it was a woman or a man who got abused and tortured (or raped), I would still assume a possibility of a different motive since none have been crearly stated by the article.
Whoa! DeafPride. I didn't say anything about deserving this treatment; That was Tommy Gunn. I did the following:
A) I asked a question. #2.9 (Which has been answered. My thanx 2 those...)
B) Made a statement about a knife not being much help since it would only get her killed. #2.14
C) Gave TG some friendly advice. #2.22
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I don't understand why nothing was done during the HOUR that this woman was raped. The driver didn't stop. Other passengers didn't help or at least contact the authorities. But, no wait, she probably deserved it according to @!$%#s like Tommy Gunn. That's why so many rapes are not reported - jerks like hims say @!$%# like, "well, what were you wearing, what were you drinking, why were you alone, did you piss him off?"
Kathy, until you live in the 3rd world country, you have little concept to what I was referring to, and no need to call me names, you f$%#$%@ as@#$@#$ c%$^. :)
Could you please clarify this??? I have no idea what you are saying.
Perhaps because of this statement
I can't speak for anyone else but I do remember this woman who has been so brutalized, I'm grateful for the news updates on her and delighted to see that the people of India (whom you've disparaged in another post) are taking matters into their own hands and demanding safer conditions and justice. Just for the record, when 9/11 happened, before anyone knew what was going on or why, India came out with the statement "We stand with the United States". How do I know??? I saw it on CNN and will never forget it. India is not quite as backwards as you make it out to be in your posts. By the way...when your computer malfunctions (I know you have one) and you're calling for help, what country do you think your technical adviser is in???
Yes, we are talking. There is little that we can do but we can support them. This site is available world-wide.
Chefaz - I don't want to calrify any religious statements because they will be misinterpreted.
If my computer breaks, I will fix it myself. I don't like talking to Indian Tech Support. I am sure you neither. As the matter of fact, we may also thank India for their developers who took lots of dev jobs from us thanks to tax breaks for off-shoring.
Instead of sending your prayers and gossipping about the unknowns, you'll do more goodness if you actually donated some food to your local charity after work.
9/11? haha, alright. What were the names of the kids that we killed via drones in Pakistan? I bet you don't even know about that because CNN or NBCnews don't report that.
Kathy -
There were no other passengers on the bus. Just the rapists, the bus driver (who colluded with the rapists), and the victims. It was a private charter bus, not a public bus.
I can't believe all of you meatheads who have jumped all over Tommy. He never said she deserved it. He never insinuated that she deserved it. He asked a simple question wondering if there was a motive other than just raping and beating some unknown woman. Geez....
If any of you took the time to look past the "its just a 3rd world hell hole" view of India you probably may have picked up on what he was trying to say. There are Buddhist and Muslim factions that hate each other in India, honor killings etc.... Woe... Maybe that could have been a motive.... In this country discussing rape is like discussing guns. Rather than have an adult conversation and try to identify the motive or what moves people to rape, people accuse somebody who asks the logical questions of victimizing the victim all over again. And with gun violence all anyone wants to talk about is banning guns. God forbid you discuss motives and what moves people to shoot others..... Stop being so narrow minded and engage in meaningful discussions. You might be surprised what issues and problems can be resolved with honest conversation.
@SayWhat,
Well said!
True Apbass,
But people like Kathy just want to be angry and spread all over the place since they are so full of ignorant rage.
Frank. Highly gay prison? Where might that be? We don't wont them deported to Texas do we?
Kathy - There were no other passengers.
This was a private bus being driven by the owner and his stupid friends. They had had drinks before and had hatched a plot to drive the bus around late at night picking up fares so that they could rob them - which is what they did - about half a dozen people were picked up at various points by these bastards, robbed of their money and dumped somewhere - before this ill fated couple was picked up.
They started passing lewd and vulger comments on the girl and when her boyfriend objected they started beating him with an iron rod. The girl intervened and resisted causing them to turn their ire at her which culminated in one of the most dastardly attack India has seen in recent times.
After the arrest they found out that the main accused, the owner of the bus was a well known psychopath and had a history of wanton extreme violence. Why this son of a bitch was not in prison is the million dollar question.
She died peacefully?? That has got to be one of the dumbest things I've heard all week. She was ganged raped and had her insides torn out. but she died a peaceful death?? Okay people. Were they christian? Maybe the family thought that god needed another angel in heaven. What was her punk-a$$ male friend doing while she was being raped? It might have been a set up?
Seewhat I mean,
Maybe if you weren't so damned illiterate or ignorant, you would have known that he was being beaten and restrained while they raped her. They were both stripped and thrown off the bus. God, Im tired of morons spouting off while knowing absolutely nothing and just deciding to be angry at everyone.
Yay for moral relativism.
Or not.
This is SO disturbing. How anyone could do such a thing like this is SO beyond me. I don't know how they could find the people who are responsible but I wish they could. What makes people do horrfic things to each other. I am SO thankful to be where I am. God Bless this poor, poor lady.
They still go by the caste system in India and women there are already treated like 2nd class citizens. So if you are from a low caste and a woman then you get treated like an animal. It is really about time that India joined the 21st century. I would expect this kind of behavior from the stone age monsters in Afghanistan or Iraq but not India. We should boycott all products and services from their country until they grow up.
Ban their guns while we at it. get it.
We should invade India and bring progress to them!
T. Gunn >>> >>> >>> You said, "We should invade India and bring progress to them!" <<~~~~~>> Your Suggestion is not original. England beat you to it by well over a hundred years.
I just want to make sure that we bring progress to every country out there that is needs it. Hell, we are doing a great job in M.E.
Didnt everyone read about the gang rape in Texas. Sometimes evil men rape, its what happens. I dont see what the police have to do with it. They caught the guys, and its either death or prison. What are you guys so angry about, except for anger directed at the rapist of course. Castration is my vote. And let the woman do it if she wants.
NVArt - You know nothing about India. So shut the @!$%# up and don't use this incident as an opportunity of vent your ignorant hateful half baked views.
Thanks Mitilda-Yeah alot good the stupid Brits did for that country back in the 20's. They used them and got out just like they tried to do 200 plus years ago in this Country. But we wiped their asses up and kicked them out now they are our friends. We do alot of that don't we? Japan-Korea-Vietnam ETC ETC.
Tommy Gunn <<< ~~ ~~ ~~ >>> If you want to bring progress to EVERY country, I suggest you start with that little country which (in the main) lies between Canada and Mexico. THAT country needs a LOT of progress in the worse way..
in addition to the overwhelming physical injuries there is now significant brain injury. please let this poor young woman die- her bright light has been snuffed. and public torture until death is just punishment for the perpetrators.
Please let her die? Life is the most beautiful thing to ever exist. Let her survive and experience it.
I agree with Allison. sort of. Don't "LET" her die, but she has no shot at living a normal life. More like a living hell.
If she can not recover there is a good chance her future care givers may rape her too. long term care Patients get victimized a lot.
If she is fighting, why let her die????? Have you ever met or dealt with someone that has suffered from a brain injury?? Doctors can never say what the outcome will be, knowing the workings of a brain are still not fully understood, she has been deprived enough already, why have take something away from her that she is trying to keep?? Allison, I believe you are probably more intelligent then you are presenting yourself to be, stop being so black and white, it's a rainbow out there.
allison <<<<<>>>>> THAT is not your decision to make. It is her's and her's alone and if she is trully unable to make that decision, it belongs to her family. YOU are not in the picture.
I would not want to live a half life - if she's to be in a vegetative state, let her go.
matilda, i , in no way am advocating for her death, i am advocating that if she can not live a fulfilling life then medicine has no right to keep her alive. this young woman has suffered horrifically, both mentally and physically and the insult to injury would be to force her to live via medical intervention. did you even read the article? she has massive internal injuries, has had 3 surgeries already and is in extremely critical condition. she also has massive head trauma. the specter of decades of living in a nursing home with a broken body and brain is far worse than death. i hope she gets fully well, but if not, i hope she is allowed to go. get off your soap box.
kathy <<<<<>>>>> THAT is not your decision to make. It is her's and her's alone and if she is trully unable to make that decision, it belongs to her family. YOU are not in the picture.
Tommy Gunn, I'm offering my opinion. Get off your soap box.
Kathy - get off your meds.
She died. Its the headline of the story.
dingo, the story has been updated. this discussion started before she died.
India, Land of Justice, Gandhi and Rape
- on Oct. 9, 2012, Indian congress President Sonia met the family of a teenage girl who immolated herself in Haryana state, after allegedly being gang-raped by two youths.
- funny enough, her son, the scion of the Gandhi Dynasty, future Prime Minister of India, Rahul Gandhi, was himself charged with being part of a gang rape. Naturally he got off byclaiming innocence - the girl accidentally bumped into him 30 times in 2 minutes.The girl and her family went into hiding after threats from the powers that be.
- A couple of weeks ago in Lucknow: A gang-rape victim from Uttar Pradesh's Ambedkar Nagar, who was again violated by the investigating officer (IO) probing her case, has now alleged that she was also raped by the inspector in charge of the police station where she had lodged her complaint. While the IO was arrested on December 14, no action has been taken against the inspector. Now the victim has written to the chief minister for justice.
- Earlier this fall, what can only be described as a raping spree broke out across the north Indian state of Haryana, claiming nearly 20 young women and girls, including a 6-year-old and a mentally handicapped 13-year-old, as victims in separate incidents.
- 830 women to every 1000 men in Haryana state, maybe it has something to do with it. India, probably the worst feticidal nation in the world. As reported by The International Humanist and Ethical Union (Indu Grewal and J. Kishore):
"The killing of women exists in various forms in societies the world over. However, Indian society displays some unique and particularly brutal versions, such as dowry deaths and sati. Female foeticide is an extreme manifestation of violence against women. Female foetuses are selectively aborted after pre-natal sex determination, thus avoiding the birth of girls. As a result of selective abortion, between 35 and 40 million girls and women are missing from the Indian population. In some parts of the country, the sex ratio of girls to boys has dropped to less than 800:1,000. The United Nations has expressed serious concern about the situation."
Thank you for the info. I was just going to say the very same thing about how India is one of those nations who use selective abortion, killing unborn baby girls. Don't worry India, as well as China, at this rate your race will be abolished very soon, and you won't have any women left to torture. So then, you will turn upon eachother (men only) and the rest will be history.
The only time there is ever any respect for a woman in these Middle Eastern countries is when they are several months pregnant. Dirt gets more respect in these countries. If these men are from families with enough money to pay off judges and local officials then they get away with their crimes. There is a high probability this is not the first time these men have committed such a horrible crime against women. These guys are repeat offenders because their male-dominate society allows it then turns the blame on the woman and her family. I say we put these perps in the homosexual prisons of Mexico!! Where is Lorraina Bobbett when we need her?!?!?
Sati? Where did you get that stuff from? Just curious.
Look it up Hedwig, sati: an ancient Indian tradition of the immolation of a widow on her husband's funeral pyre, now illegal. Even though it's supposedly illegal it's still being practiced in rural locations in India. Google the word sati and you will find many references to this practice.
Julieann - India isn't part of the ME. Women are treated horribly all over the world.
I agree with the rest of your post, though.
Adam1-5765963
Very well said! - Latest UN report on India states that there are 914 girls for each 1000 boys due to selctive abortion of female fetuses. It used to be 927 girls a decade ago. Just wait another decade or two. Indian men will be like the wild animals looking for females, that would be their just punishment. They will not find a mate for marriage. Now the girls parents pay millions to the boys parents for getting their daughters married; that is going to change in about 10 years. The boys will have to pay millions to the girls parents to find a bride... Then the Indians will really know the consequences of selctive abortion. Let those cave dweller face it...
Just finished reading BBC World News India and they state that the attack was over an hour long before the man and women were thrown off of the bus.....AGAIN, WHO was on the bus and no one called for help or stopped the bus, what in the world was happening on that bus with the other passengers. Were people getting on and off and going about their business????? NO one can call for HELP!!
What nonsense. I suspect that you are a Pakistani, and you are posting anti-India spam.
While in the olden days, parents did prefer a son, the old preferences are changing. People used to prefer a son because he would take care of his parents in their old age.
However, this is changing. Among my cousins, they all have girls, and they are treated like princesses. I mean, dance lessons, pretty clothes, private school, etc.
Women in India have equal rights. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
allison, Kathy, et al <<<>>> Since I wrote the above post, it has been reported that she died, which makes the argument moot. But, for the record----- I am not on the soap box, the two of you are crowding onto every square inch of the soapbox. If I wanted to get up onto the soapbox (but, I don't), there would not be enough room for me. I doubt even an angel, looking for a pinhead to alight on would be able to find space, but for you two. Had she not died, the decision would still have been HERS', not YOURS' and had she not been able to make that decision, the decision would have been her familys', again, NOT YOURS".
wiseone #5.8, seems you are in denial, or not so wise. Which part of my comment do you challenge, show me some facts. Seems your cousins come from the 1% of India, with dance lessons and private schools. I will cite you more facts:
BBC News, May 23, 2011
– “In 1961, for every 1,000 boys under the age of seven, there were 976 girls. Today, the figure has dropped to a dismal 914 girls.”
– “My mother-in-law said if I had a daughter, my husband would leave me. Thankfully, I had a son.” Deepali Sah, Health worker
The Indian Express, Mon Jul 16 2012
As per the 2011 census, Haryana had the lowest child sex ratio of 830-1,000 in the age group between 0-6 years and 877-1,000 in general. The two districts in India where lowest sex ratio was recorded also fall in Haryana. Jhajjar and Mahendergarh have recorded the lowest sex ratio of 774-1,000 and 778-1,000 respectively.
I rest my case.
@Eleanor:
Hang 'em high. The bus was not a public bus - it was taken illegally by these drunk criminals, no one else on the bus. "Driver" was one of them. Tinted windows, posed as a transport service, poor victims did not suspect this. Police did not stop as they may not have known, failures in many areas but not "complicit" or "condoned" as some might have us believe.
Homo sapiens are truly the most dispicable species on the planet. How could anyone possibly ever do this?
thats males for ya...
As a man, I say you are right. Our minds are twisted.
These things ought not to be... Renew your mind- Stop playing the victim
@RocknRhonda-1294271 "Homo sapiens are truly the most dispicable species on the planet. How could anyone possibly ever do this?"
Rhonda, I understand why you might feel this way....(the thought also occurs to me every-now-an-then). But remember, we homo-sapiens are capable of such goodness on this planet also! Unlike other species, we have the ability to reason as to which we want to do.... don't give up on all of us! *wink*
Katerzyna,
Because women never do anything wrong? Thats why feminism has become a dirty word. Ignorant women such as yourself.
hey humans are not so dispicable we did alot of good things
hey no were not we are great its just a few of us that are bad
I find it unimaginable that any man is blaming women after reading this article. I could care less what a woman does. If she's naked walking in the middle of the street SHE STILL DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE RAPED! Only a sick coward rapes a woman (or a man for that matter)!
Who's blaming women Anonamoose? Wanna get off that soap box? You might come down to reality.
Just another case of subjugation of women. It is OK to get away with nearly anything violent towards women because the Indian society looks upon them as liabilities instead of the valuable assets they are. This is a universal thought world-wide. Yes, the US is the same, the is no equality between men and woman. The US is a Christian/Judeo country and subjugation of women is paramount to be a Christian or Jew. All the major religions preach the subjugation of women.
The only place we find equality is among tribal societies and, of course, they are uncivilized savages and barbarians who haven't found the Lord!
Actually, the disregard for women in India is a lagging issue from their tribal society past. Educated families in India don't behave like that. Ignorance and religion kill people.
I've noticed the affects of "those without religion" is as about as brutal and misguided as it gets on planet earth. But, go on with your philosophy.....could be that this poor girl was raped and beaten because of her religion, by those (like you), who have no religion....
Religion is the excuse used in societies that want to continue to abuse people and keep them in line. "Oh, you live a horrible life? You did something wrong in a past life, suck it up, be nice in this life and you'll be reborn to a better life next time." "Don't worry, that person who (insert crime here) will get their punishment when they die." Then there's the divine right of kings...an excellent reason to say that god approves of their bad behavior.
Religion is a hold over from a primitive age, a way to explain death and the things that science has explained.
Organized Religion - a tool to control masses of populations, an excuse to continue wars, and by far the most ambigious way to explain life and death. But we are civilized, so we chose to believe in an all powerful and merciful dude up in the clouds.
You might as well go fishing, Tommy......no one is listening to you....
Looks like you are! Yes, I'd rather be fishing.
Supposing that your religion makes you superior to someone else is pure garbage. Religion is fiction for those that fear death without it. To insinuate that this woman was raped for any reason beyond the sickness in these perverts is sick in itself. So stuff that fake God praising cause God would know if you aren't genuine anyway. Going to church won't buy you a ticket to heaven cause there is no heaven!
Take your so-called religion and throw it in the trash. That's what it's really worth, nothing.
As a man of the human species I always thought one of our basic instincts was to protect the fairer sex and our children. Apparently this doesn't cross over into the Middle Eastern way of thinking. The vermin that committed this dastardly act are not men. They are cowardly scum.
Get 'em, Bluesman.
Men in the Middle Eastern countries are whimps! You rarely hear of them beating up on each other. Bring them to the USA or some other high powered free Nation and they would get torn to shreds like a hungry lion after her prey (it's the lioness that is the hunter among her species).
@ Julieann...."Bring them to the USA or some other high powered free Nation and they would get torn to shreds....." ....or become taxi-drivers! lol
"Protect the fairer sex." Really? That must be why women in the US armed services are raped and abused.
Kathy, yes, really. But I'm merely expressing my own feeling on the subject. I have no affiliation to the armed forces but if I did I wouldn't stand back and let this kind of thing happen.
India is NOT in the Middle East, guys. Your root cause theories need some work.
Sorry Geo-cop, I should have correctly said South Asia. But, I happen to enjoy lumping birds of a feather together.
There is always bad men and women. Its just bad men are stronger so they can rape women. Evil exists everywhere.
No, Julieann, I don't want these monsters in this country. Even if they were to get torn to shreds, it won't be until after they attack a woman here and get caught. That would be justice too late for me.
@bluesman - racist much?
if only people would bother to learn that Indians and Middle Easterners are not the same, and also that most Indians are NOT muslims...
That's like if an American visited some non-white country, and people thought he was the same as someone from the Soviet Union (I know it's Russia now, but it makes more of a contrast).
@Julieann: racist much?
Over the top generalization ; "Men in middle eastern countries"..
really? "all" men? remember that it was six criminals that did this, and for their act you must not generalize to the entire population.
Oh, by the way, India is not in the middle east. Also, see my above post.
Bluesman
Get off your high-horse superiority in regards to how civilized men in the US are in contrast to those you lump together as "birds of a feather" (anyone not white and Christian, I take it to mean)....There are dispicable men who do dispicable things to women here in the good old USA, too. You obviously have not been exposed to or well-educated in regards to people of other nations, religions, cultures, etc...I find Americans to be extremely mis-informed due to the fact they never get out and see the world through any other eyes but their sanctimonious own.
Do some research on violent/sexual crimes committed by males against women in the US.
Julieann

Over an hour of brutality on a moving bus, carrying other passanger (at least the driver)? That speaks volumes about the quality of the Indian socity. Were there guns involved? I haven't heard of any.
There is no quality in Indian society.
From what I've read the woman and her male companion boarded the bus thinking it was public transportation. It wasn't. What kind of a bus and who was on it I don't know, but they were all men. They attacked, beat and raped her and not even the bus driver intervened. Her companion was either beaten and/or restrained. So now a woman studying to be a doctor is barely alive and if she lives will never be the same. I've never understood why men hate women so much.
One of the culrpit is the bus driver itself, accompanied by 5 of his male friends..
@Pray Hard-662027
"There is no quality in Indian society." ....so much for "The City of Joy".....('hated that movie....) lol
Carolyn-1500288,
Yeah Carolyn, men hate women. Its not just that there are bad men. Thats why her male companion had to be restrained; he hated her too. Ridiculous statement.
Oh look ...dumbass racist ignorant American mother@!$%#ers are out in force again venting their racist views about a country and people they know only in passing from stupid Hollywood movies and occasional voyeuristic pieces in NY times ....
@Day guy:
Hang 'em high. The bus was not a public bus - it was taken illegally by these drunk criminals, no one else on the bus. "Driver" was one of them. Tinted windows, posed as a transport service, poor victims did not suspect this. Police did not stop as they may not have known, failures in many areas but not "complicit" or "condoned" as some might have us believe.
@PrayHard - you need to pray hard that you can someday get an education.
Cut off their penis, and place them in the general prison population. The same needs to be done in the United States. The stats are increasing in this country at alarming rate. If this lady is brain dead, and the ridicule of the people of India and without proper medical care, then dying would be a better option. Maybe India will place the scumbags before a firing squad.
For it to work, their penises must be cut off just below the chin. The problem is not in their genitalia, it's in their brains.
Correct, Pray Hard!
It would appear that all Indian men are animals. India should impose a death penalty on them, rather than turning a blind eye. India sucks
Hey MORON,
All Indian men are animals? You are such an idiot, like India's the only place rape happens. I agree they should give the a-holes the harshest punishment imaginable but to say all Indian men are animals is just a stupid statement to make. Get the f*** out of here and shut your piehole because you are just one of those stupid american that make the rest of us look dumb also.
psinghbroncos, don't feed the trolls. That's all he is.
The apparent definition of a TROLL: "One who has an opinion differing from your own. Such commentators should be disparaged and eliminated at all costs." So much for freedom of expression on this forum, huh?
^^^ good question
The real indian heroes : www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfWbWaRSAvo
They never asked for a separate land. The indian government made it all up an excuse to launch Operation BLUESTAR and to commit genocide on its own.
There is always a double standard for us and them.
Was there no one on the bus who could come to this woman's assistance? When she was thrown on the side of the road? I think it's time for the whole Indian nation to do some major soul searching. Despicable.
I think that you ask a valid question, Simple Simon-1401166. Any onlookers may have been intimidated into silence. Fear can be a paralizer. It appears that with all the demonstrations, that many Indians are fed up with this disgrace.
according to the reports the perpetrators, the young lady and the young ladies male companion were on the bus. the companion was severley beaten, stripped naked and thrown from the bus as well.
No univolved parties were on the bus. Only the attackers, the driver (who was in cahoots) and the victims. It is wrong to impune Indian society.
Whats wrong doesnt stop the ignorant like Simon from throwing out accusations.
So Mr. Burns, you're God and can be the only opinion that's right? I think not my friend! Get over yourself because the fact that one rape is reported every 18 hours means that most of the men in New Delhi ARE sickos!
It's more than possible that it's not the same perpetrator so that means there are a vast majority of men that actually believe that it's alright to beat and rape a woman when they can.
With that in mind I too would like to see something drastic happen in that God forsaken city. I have never heard of a crime rate that high much less a rate for rape being off the charts like this.
Fence off the entire city and allow the women to leave and then CASTRATE all the men. Every single one! They either know someone that should be turned over to the police for rape or have done it themselves. For that they must pay!
Its not an opinion moron. Ignorant means you dont know what you are talking about. Which evidently you dont. There was no one else on the bus except the rapists, the driver who was in on it, the victim, and her male friend who was beaten and held while she was raped. So, no, no one was on the bus to stop the incident. Its not all the Indians fault, its those 6 men. No more.
And no, it doesnt mean that at all. Notice how many males are protesting? A lot. Do you know how many people are in New Delhi? Evidently not. Not enough to know that it is no where close to a vast majority of men who are doing this.
And rates of rape are WAY higher in other countries.
Castrate all the men? You mean the ones protesting and her male companion who tried to help her? Sounds legit. You are just as bad as the rapists. Angry, full of hate and ignorance, and sexist. This is why people wont listen to you. You are simply crazy.
The bus driver took the private bus home with him. This was not a bus on a route. There were no other passengers. The bus was used to lure the unsuspecting victim--who did not realize that it was not on a regular route.
I thought these Hindus were all about peace and love. I guess some of the men don't go to church.
There are many different religions in India. Nothing says these were Hindu's. I suppose the atrocity inflicted on her was some sort of message from God as well? You know God works in mysterious ways and has no issue using his creations as props!
But little will change in such a society as india. One in which it is taught that women are naturally inferior to men. Sexual prejudice is just like racism. You can't legislate it out of existence.
Hinduism is actually a very dark and violent religion, you'd be surprised.
Who said they were Hindus? India is full of Muslims also.
Maybe they were Christians?
Maybe they were atheists.
I've not seen anything written that discloses what religion - if any - that the perps followed. What does it really matter??? Every group has their criminals.
People didn't like me mentioning Christians. Bigots!
Tommy, why did you bring religion into this in the first place??? It has no place with regards to this topic, nor have anything to do with this crime of violence.......just sayin---don't go there!.....maybe you'll find some who actually agree with your posts if you take the offensive tenor out of your comments....
Texson, I didn't. Pray Hard brought religion into this. I only responded my ignorant comment to his.
Katerzyna, you have no idea about Hinduism, so your comment is not valid. Hinduism is a way of life. Hindus don't commit crimes, then go to confessions, have their sins cleansed by saying a few "Hail Mary," then go on to to repeat the sin again. So before you talk about Hindusim as a dark religion, learn about it before you talk nonsense.
Wilfred, you are correct. They don't go to church, they go to temples!
In India, 80% of the population is Hindu. That's why I used Hinduism in my post. It is by far the dominant religion in India. Muslims make up about 13% of the population. I have respect for the Hindu religion.
There are good and bad people in every nation, race, and religion. 99.99% of Indians are good folk. In a nation of more than one billion, you are bound to find a few bad apples.
People-First ~~~~~ Maybe Hindus don't commit crimes, go to confession, receive absolution, repeat as needed. But, Catholics don't either. To treat confession in this way is considered to be a grievous sin in itself and every Catholic knows that. If he or she claims not to know it, then---on some level,--- he or she is lying.
It will take real men in India, to deal with roving rape gangs that use intimidation and violence. Do what must be done.
Do they have any real men there don't sound like it.
Same goes for the US. We men need to stand up now and stop relying on the cops who are nothing but bureaucrats with guns who clean up the mess. Men, take off your frilly panties and put on your big boy britches for the first time in your metrosexual lives. It's time to be what we're supposed to be.
Take a breath here, Pray hard. This wasn't about the US. This is about India.
Ram, Pray Hard has a valid point. Posters are acting as if atrocious rapes don't happen in the US. Some men act the same worldwide, so don't paint them all in a country with the same brush.
There are no roving rape gangs. This is an isolated, rare incident.99.99% of Indians are good folk.
I will pray for her, God bless her and keep her in Your love
Where was your god when she was being raped?
Kathy, God is ALL about free will and free agency.....He doesn't make us do anything--not even love and respect Him. He tries to influence us with His spirit, but we ultimately decide what we will do. However, we don't get to choose the consequences of our choices....in the end....HE will do that....
Texson5... so she decided to get raped? So she had the free will to choose which would happen to her and she chose rape? And God didn't even give her a warning?
Doesn't surprise me any, after all don't these people treat a cow better than a human being?
@ Pup1 Well, in all frankness...... the US is a country full of "animal-rights-activists" who view other humans as lesser than, are we not?
when the culture changes - changes will happen. it is that way in every society. it sounds as though some people in high places are finally listening. too soon to tell.
Clearly a case of legitimate rape.
Wow, really Einstein?
I think we can only know that if she gets pregnant or not.
Hope they find those evil men......cut off their packages. Throw them in the streets to die
Don't think it will ever happen, lulu....remember, we're talking about a society where women are viewed as inferior and children of a lesser god.... Ever wondered why the adulteress was brought before Christ for judgement.....whereas, the man with whom she was caught was allowed to go his way? India...all of Arabia.....they have no respect for women in their societies.....hating the rest of the world was just a natural progression.....just a thought...
Come on, it's not like this is not happening here. We just chose to pay those women a lot and call them Escorts, or Exotic Dancers, or Porn Stars.
I wonder if the American Judge that stated "There is no such thing as rape, because a woman's body can prevent rape" still feels the same way now.
There should be no question or doubt what should happen to these rapist... They should be put to death without question!
@ Dominiator "I wonder if the American Judge that stated "There is no such thing as rape, because a woman's body can prevent rape..." It wasn't an American Judge....it was a politician....and besides that.....you (and the other liberals) need to get on with life. That is so yesterday's news...
Texson, no value in your posts. I'll mark all of them inflammatory or no value.
Yeah, you go with that, Tommy......me, I'm gonna go out and enjoy the day!.....
Great, please do! You should have done that an hour ago.
Of course to you "conservatives" that is yesterdays news" because you're stil trying to make it TODAYS laws!!!! Feel good that YOUR party suuceeded in not reinstating the VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT here as it could not even get out of the teahad controlled HOUSE this time around and JERK Eric Cantor just said "we women should will understand". You all make me sick to my stomach!!!!! You freaking nutjobs are the reason I am a 2nd Amendment LIBERAL, walk around packed all the time and won't hestitate to use the pistol I own on YOUR psycho asses if you mess with MY CIVIL RIGHTS ANYMORE!!!!!! I've had more then can take of your extremist BS and religious crappola being shoved down my throat everytime I turn around from the Christian Taliban making YOUR beliefs the law!!!
Leave the rest of us ALONE already and if you have a problem with that, read the Consitution or have your churches start paying taxes.
Now is the time for the women of the world to stand up and say:"NO MORE!" No more disrespect, no more being looked at as inferior, no more guns and mens wars, no more violence, no more male greed... the list goes no forever. I am a man and I think that women can do a better job then men because they all have one thing in common the no man can ever know. They know the pain of child birth. The deep love for their children and for family. Women all over the world need to stand together and take over everything. I believe that women can run the world with love and compassion, where men only think with greed and a lust for power. That's not to say that men can't contribute to somethings, but on limited basis. Let the women of the world take over and make this a better world to live in. They certainly can't do any worse, and I know they can do way better then the men.
LMFAO! Thank for the great laugh this morning!
Women are no different then men besides the physical attributes and the fact that men are out in the open and women are silent attackers.
Dominator, you have problems.
Men and women can both be awesome or despicable. Good luck getting all those women in India together...look at the protests that are being met with brutality.
GDMartinez,
That has to be one of the dumbest posts Ive ever seen. Women have started wars as well. Millions of women own guns in the US. Women are just as greedy as men. Ever hear of a gold digger? What men dont love their children or family? Tell that to my dad, or countless other great fathers. Women also create problems for men. Can take away their children, twist men into doing stuff for them, etc. Both sexes have their evil members. Its just men tend to be more physical and violent, and women more emotionally manipulative. (Both sexes do both btw)
Woman whose gang rape in New Delhi spawned days of protests in India has died, according to her doctor.
This story angers me so much!!! May God have pitty on their disgusting selves because I will not. The only good that can come out of this story is that maybe people will wake up and smell the coffee that something needs to be done and people do NOT deserve this. The bus driver should have had a radio or something in order to communicate what was going on. What did he do just keep driving while this took place? These poor people were completely disrespected. Karma will come the way of these men who did this. Hopefully, soon.
"Woman who was gang raped in New Delhi India has died" Repeating what was likely written or should have been written.
This breaks my heart. How dare these men think that they can get away with this. A demand for the perpetrators' identities, capture and prosecution is actively being made. This was an act of vengence and a cowardly act for power over another. Men have known their whole lives that they are physically stronger than women are. We, women know that and the intelligent ones of us respect that about men. Just remember Ladies, it is not a good idea to aim for the testicles, it is a good idea to learn where to hit and how hard to hit on any attacker no matter wether female or male. It does not take a lot of strength IF you know where and exactly how hard. This is my experience and I am not a large person. Works every time, even when I am afraid.
It is a shame that she died, but on the other hand, in that country, had she survived, how would her life had been after such a horrible act? If there is a law there that allows for this it must be changed.
This is not something that America can resolve, this is something that needs resolved in that country and very swiftly. It should be handled as if the men were gang raping the men. I rest. Those in the governement there that stand in the way of swift justice for this woman should be removed.
That is my opinion and I am sticking to it.
Hey Beauty, I agree. If she had tried to defend herself and succeeded in killing one of her attackers, who is to say she wouldn't have died anyway.
Notice they didn't reveal the names or religion of the perps? Yeah, keep on whitewashing it, article writers.
Why should their religion matter?
At least one story listed names and ages. Religion is immaterial, but probably Hindu in this case.
No matter. Their demise should be slow and "interesting". Lots of things can be done with household items at hand. Then, perhaps the Tyburn treatment: hanged slowly to the point of unconsciousness; cut down, revived and castrated; disemboweled and their bowels burned before their eyes; beheaded; torso and limbs cut into four pieces and the five (including the head) dipped in tar and mounted in public view where they will provide the best lesson to others who would act as they did. With six defendants, they'll have thirty visual aids for hooligans to remember how women should be treated.
no excuse. nuff said
They are fricken weird over there
We have gang rapes in America too. Often recorded on cell phones for fun.
^^^ Exactly. Check out "Life after Porn" documentary if you get a chance. It's on Netflix. Scary to know what goes through the minds of those women.
@MC Gusto "We have gang rapes in America too. Often recorded on cell phones for fun."
Yes...and the ACLU to get the rapists off after they are caught.....it's a great country, isn't it?? lol
we are freaking weird here too..... gun violence,, murder at record numbers in big cities,,, & some of these a-hole posts saying "this girl might have done something to deserve this"---- scum like this is why abortion needs to be legal......
I guess if she does not become pregnant or dies it's not rape she wanted it, that's according to our Republican leaders.
Liar.
McGusto - Why? is not a liar! That comes straight from Republicans mouths! As in India, America has many, many misogynist creeps!
OFGS. Are you really that stupid or do you just portray that much stupidity on TV? This isn´t about politics, you flipping moron, but about an attitude that doesn´t respect women. Grow up and get your head out of Obama´s a**.
It wasn't all Republicans who spouted that garbage, and you know it. The political rhetoric is so tired.
@ AllPeopleRightsMcGusto - Why? is not a liar! That comes straight from Republicans mouths!
It came out of the mouth of an individual fool running for office in Kansas.....and now, you use it as a so-called political barb against Republicans in general?......admit it---you never finished school, did you, APR?
I'm a staunch liberal and I know liberals who say idiotic, stupid things.....that does not make all liberals idiotic or stupid just like some idiot in KS does not make all republicans...anything. Let's call out those who spread hate not who they associate themselves with. Geez, it would make for a better world not lumping everyone into one category. SO Texson agreed!!!!
Dengi, you said this is not about politics, yet you mention Obama?
All People et al --------- The Republicans who said that have admitted their statement and have apologized for it. The wording was awkward and did not come out the way they intended. Nevertheless, as I said before, they have admitted their mistake and apologized. Now, how about you admitting you knew all that all along and apologizing yourself.