American polticians and their puppets in NATO engineered the whole thing. Everywhere America and their NATO "yes men" go, they leave a big mess behind. NATO countries leaders need to stand on their own and quit being the hired guns for American politicians. Stop kissing up to American politicians and take care of you own country & citizens.

Religion of peace? Pigs fartwa. Sooner or later even the most diehard optimist will realise Islam is nothing more than a psychosis.

Kill, kill kill, that's all these neurotic Muhammadans have been doing, day in and day out, for the last 1400 years. Go Hussein Obama, go and hold peace talks with your psychotic Muslim brothers, and don't forget to bankroll the Muslim Brotherhood, and especially don't forget to lower your head and bow very low to the Saudi king.

What a disgrace indeed to see Hussein Obama, the leader of the greatest nation on earth, bowing in subservience to a Saudi "royal" who is nothing more than a Muhammadan bedouin

"Attackers threw a homemade bomb at an administration building belonging to the Egyptian Coptic church in Dafniya"

This is what minorities get in Muslim nations.

Where are UN and its agencies, human rights groups/watches and liberals?

Are not Christians humans?

Zheng.Glad you got educated in the west.Now run along back to the party

Sir Vival: "Saudi "royal" who is nothing more than a Muhammadan bedouin"

All in House of Saud are inventors, promoters and exporters of seventh century barbaric, beastly, bigoted Sunni Islamic haters and killers.

British put these Sunni Islamic Frankenstein monsters in power and US, British and allies have kept them alive!

What a way to keep alive wrong ungrateful and backstabbers in power by losing thousands of poor soldiers!

Looks like the fun just doesn't stop in some places, like Libya. What was the excuse this time???

Don, the hardline Islamists have killed thousands in the name of their religion, how many were killed by hardline anti-Islamists in the name of Jesus Christ?

So can you back up your claim, or this is just the same talking points which have proven false many times before.

We are better at preventing it in the US. But there have been several burned to the ground in the past couple of years. And there was the Sikh temple shooting where one of the strong theories is the gunman mistook them for Muslim. The shooting in Norway is another example.

That doesn't make the burning of churches by radical Muslims any less horrendous ... but please don't make out that others aren't violent as well.

Beth, the ultra-rightist groups in the States are fascists groups, I don't know how many of them consider themselves to be doing the work of Jesus Christ. Only few Churches like Wetboro Baptist claims to be a Christian Church and these churches are condemned by almost every Christian denomination. This is not the case for the Islamist who are now given a free hand to terrorize all who do not follow their twisted faith. BTW, if you can follow what is broadcasted on Islamist TV in the Arab World, including Egypt, today you will not be able to comprehend the depth of depravity that some who speaks in the name of Islam have sunk to without being challenged by the ruling governments. Here is one of them who teaches in Al Azhar University insulting the Coptic Pope because the Pope opposed some of Shari'a based laws included in the new Constitution.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zQ1ykLxmRwM

Coptic

Whether you are talking about the Christian killers or the Islamic killers, the killers come from a small percentage of the total population. They have their radical Islamists attacking the Coptic Christians; we have our KKK and skinheads, among others. Some of ours are just ultra-rednecks. I would not defend the radicals of either religion.

Don, this website keep track of all the crimes committed in the name of Islam

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

If you can give me a similar list for KKK and skinhead crimes we can discuss the percentage. Also, it will help if you can point to me any mainline Christian Church that supports the KKK or the skinheads, the same way many well known Muslim Imams defended the likes of Bin Laden. Finally how many Churches were actively preaching hatred in the same way Mosques in England, Germany, and other European countries were advocating violence against non-believers, examples of such radical positions in Islam is covered in this movie

http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/

Coptic

This is not a numbers battle and if you go back to my original comment, I do not want to prove which religion is worse. Individuals are responsible for their own actions and we find dangerous radicals in most religions.

So according to your logic, you don't see any difference between few people dying of the bubonic illness every year in the twenty first century and the large number who died of the bubonic plague that wiped out third of Europe in the Middle ages, both deaths were caused by the same disease!

Coptic

Quit being juvenile. Your example enlightens nobody. All I am saying is that most religions have dangerous radicals and all of them are wrong. I am not trying to count bodies. I am not trying to say that one religion is worse than another. Get it?

don, you don't get it, you said

most religions have dangerous radicals and all of them are wrong

But when the subject is about a terrorist attack on a house of worship and if this is just one of many Islamist attacks on houses of worships of every religious sect including Shiites Mosques, then your argument is totally meaningless. It is just a smoke screen in attempt to cover up for the real danger posed by radical Muslims to peaceful people of every religion and nationality. We have been exposed to your meaningless talking points many times before and we are no longer fooled by them.

Cryptic

I do get it. You are completely focused on the dangers to Christians. Muslims, Sikhs, and those of other religions are often in great danger from Christian radicals in the United States

You people are absolutely pathetic. Wiping out 100 million American Indians in the name of the cross is genocide. Enslaving and killing millions of slaves, while converting several by force is genocide. Blowing up 2 cities in Japan is genocide. Putting 8 million Jews in an oven is genocide. Continuously bombing countries in the Middle East for the past 2 decades is genocide. A suicide bomber killing 2900 people in New York is not genocide. Killing 2 Christians in Libya is not genocide. I wonder how many muslims Obama killed today? Any ideas?

don, you finally found someone who can understand you, how about if you try to explain your ideas about religions to AziaticArab. You both can teach each other some facts about religion and ancient history!

"Coptic Christians in Egypt have become increasingly worried after an upsurge in attacks on churches, which they blame on hardline Islamists, in the wake of the removal from office in 2011 of President Hosni Mubarak."

Coptic Christian: Keep it up and keep going.

Let us take Shiites on our sides for all infidels battles against Sunni Islamic hating and killing madness.

Don -- extremists who only see one side of the total picture will never get your point, I'm sorry to say. Unfortunately our society is moving in that direction -- total polarization. There is no "All Christians Good" - "All Muslims Bad". But those on one side or the other will never see that because they refuse to look at the individual, they just wish to hate.

The point should be that ALL individuals who commit these kinds of crimes should be condemned, no matter what their religion might be.

In other words, you can keep trying, but it's blowin' in the wind.

I know you are right, Beth. I just have this Don Quixote complex. Sometimes the only reason I spar with these people is to solidify my own thoughts by writing them down. Does it occur to you, as it does me, that those with the most closed minds are the most convinced of their own opinions?

don and Beth, if both of you read my 2.10 posting carefully you will find these lines

But when the subject is about a terrorist attack on a house of worship and if this is just one of many Islamist attacks on houses of worships of every religious sect including Shiites Mosques, then your argument is totally meaningless. It is just a smoke screen in attempt to cover up for the real danger posed by radical Muslims to peaceful people of every religion and nationality. We have been exposed to your meaningless talking points many times before and we are no longer fooled by them.

Do I need to explain to you that the shiites are about 10% of the Muslims world wide and that they have been targeted by Sunni Jihadists. Did you notice the other words I highlighted? Do you know that the the wars going on in Syria and the terrorists acts in Iraq and Pakistan are mainly between Sunnis and Shiites?
So who is the one who is closed minded? The one who try to address the world as it or the one who is living in a dream world and raging battles against windmills.

Thank you Jonathan, actually it is not only the Shiites who are under attack by the Islamists, in Egypt the MB and Salafists have declared war on any one who don't follow their twisted understanding of Islam and that include soofies, secular Muslims. Now there is a potential break up between MB who are more interested in building their brotherhood family and the Salafist who want to take the country back to the early time of Islam. Salafist have been burned many times by the pragmatist MB and sooner or later we may have an all out battle MB, Salafist, Shiites, Soofies, and moderate Muslims in Egypt to define what Islam is.

Coptic -- you are still, purposefully I believe, missing our point. That point is pretty clear. Let me try ONE MORE TIME, in very simple English.

All of the INDIVIDUALS committing these crimes should be condemned REGARDLESS of the religion.

I'm sure Don, as well as I, understand at least the basic points of the differences between the Muslim sects. However, we choose to condemn the INDIVIDUAL(S) not the religion and we recognize that extremists of ALL religions can and do commit atrocities.

Beth, no one argue against an open ended condemnation of religious incited violence, but I object to using such a generalization to avoid a clear condemnation of acts of violence committed by a group of people to further their own objectives. When almost all religious incited violence is committed by Islamist can't we just discuss that without getting lost in a Byzantine debate about religion and humanity in general.

Coptic: Thanks a lot.

Don't forget: you people have lots of supporters.

I have a good idea of Saudi Arabia inspired seventh century, despotic, bigoted Sunni hating and killing machines operating under different labels.

In Egypt, Saudi inspired Sunni Muslim Bloodhounds and Salaffi are active.

In Syria, Shiites and Sunnis are killing each other.

Look at that Shiite cowards hiding under some burkha/niqab, Hezbollah (tenth century Islamic beasts). Instead of supporting Assad they are hiding!

In Lebanon, all these seventh and tenth century Islamic killers joined together against Christians.

Let us all infidels join hands to fight these Islamic religious Nazis.

Of course, if they are fighting each other I will morally support the weaker for battle to become a bit even!

Killings and effects will be more reducing our burden.

backtobasics has no respect for basic truth or decency . This comment could only come from a bigot.

You are right, musician. I have no tolerance for bigots, but when I call backtobasics a bigot it was only because he made a blanket negative statement about an entire culture ..... if that ain't a bigot, what is? And rather than name calling, I think of it as just putting a name to his revealed character (or lack thereof).

Isalm is a cult and not a religion.

Followers of Islamic cult, especially House of Saud and other Sunni ME rulers inspired and funded Sunni Islamic radicals and militants (al-Qaida, Salaffi, Wahhabi, MB, Taliban and other label ones), are fast marching backwards to their seventh century desert tribal days.

They are indulging in rapings, lootings, killings and genocides of non-Muslims (Darfur, S. Sudan, Nigeria and spreading like wild fire in many regions and Muslims (Libya, Yemen, Mali, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan and other places).

In Egypt, the Sunni extremists with labels like Salaffi and MB (Muslim Blood hounds) are opening up new chapters of Islamic bigotry. Morsi is just a front for them.

Just watch the fate of Christians, women and Israel as the time goes by.

Even in Syria, if Assad is overthrown by Sunni Islamic religious Nazis like al-Qaida, MB, the conditions of Christians will be unbearable just like Iraq.

Pakis and Sunni rulers of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, UAE and other Sunni Arab League nations are responsible for 80 percent of world problems including economic ones. Examine the devastations with Iraqi wars and now sanctions on Iranian oil and the resultant oil price manipulations.

They are making the lives of their own people also miserable by their Islamic religious madness to the intolerable levels.

Let us battle them (Sunni madness first and then Shiites ones) all over the globe.

sunny boy

You would not be able to recognize a wise man if he were sitting in your living room. What is the purpose of such a disgusting comment?

No it would not have happened, so add these victims to the long list of victims of US/NATO attack on Libya. They dismantled the Qaddafi's regime without planning for what will replace it.

I see what you mean Coptic. They take him out and Extremist move in.

Jayson, I wonder if this is the link you are talking about, on this blog you can not post links till you get some credit in the Newsvine

http://asenseofbelonging.org/2012/12/30/libya-offers-the-first-coptic-martyrs-of-the-modern-era/

Exact same thing was happening in Europe at the dawn of the 20th century. A series of revolutions and civil wars had systematically taken out most of the Eastern European monarchs and replaced them with Communist of Nazi dictators.

Meanwhile, US, UK and the rest of the West was sitting there waiting for Communists and Nazis to fight each other and not bother the Democratic West.

Now, they are sitting there waiting for Sunni and Shea to fight each other and not bother the West.

Do you think it will work better this time around?

This was in response to the young man pushed off the train tracks by an American Christian fanatic.

So, the fact that the fanatic you mentioned was instantly arrested by her own government and will stand trial did not make good Muslims feel any better.

They still felt the need to kill a couple Christians in their own country, who had absolutely no connection to the aforementioned fanatic.

Wonderful.

But they are cool now, aren't they? They wont be killing any more Christians in their neighborhood, right?

And he was re-elected! He carried the votes of movie stars, welfare deadbeats, and white women. Is that a cross section of America, or what? Now, his man Leon Panetta says American troops will always be in Afghanistan and small units of American troops will be in every country in Africa; and this from a president who was given the Nobel Peace Prize!

And yet the biggest killers of Muslims around the world are somehow other Muslims.

Check out Syria, Egypt, Pakistan...

Even in any of the countries you've mentioned most of the Muslim killing is still done by other Muslims.

Life is full of paradoxes.