US drone strikes kill 18 Pakistani militants, sources tell NBC

Updated at 10:09 a.m. ET: PESHAWAR, Pakistan - Eighteen suspected militants were killed in three separate American drone attacks in Pakistan's South Waziristan on Saturday night, military and government sources told NBC News. 

Pakistani military officials said the drones fired 10 missiles and pounded three different militant compounds in the Babar district. Eighteen people died in the drone attacks, said the officials, who asked not to be named because they were not allowed to speak to the media.

Muhammed Muheisen / AP

Images of daily life, political pursuits, religious rites and deadly violence.

The militants targeted were led by Hakimullah Mehsud and had set up sanctuaries in the mountainous district, about 85 miles northeast of Wana, the capital of the South Waziristan tribal region. Mehsud's fighters often target the Pakistani army. 

The death toll could rise as dozens of militants were present in the compound during the drone strikes, NBC sources said. 

Tribesmen in the adjoining Razmak area of the North Waziristan region told NBC News that they had heard heavy blasts overnight but could not confirm if the explosions were drone strikes.

Islamabad opposes the use of U.S. drones in its territory, but is believed to have tacitly approved some strikes in past. The drone campaign also infuriates many Pakistanis who see them as a violation of their country's sovereignty. Many Pakistanis complain that innocent civilians have also been killed, something the U.S. rejects. 


Pakistani security forces conducted a massive military operation against the militants in South Waziristan in October 2009 but spared the area targeted in the overnight attack.

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A top Pakistani Taliban commander, Maulvi Nazeer, was killed in a drone attack on Wednesday, along with his senior commanders and fighters in South Waziristan.

He was considered pro-government because he and his men had signed a peace accord and pledged not to fight against Pakistani forces. He was affiliated with the Afghan Taliban and fought U.S.-led forces in Afghanistan.

On Saturday, an estimated 6,000 tribesmen demonstrated in Azam Warsak, which is about 10 miles from Wana, to protest the killing of Nazeer.  They pledged to continue fighting alongside the Afghan Taliban in Afghanistan.

The Associated Press contributed to this report. 

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Blast them into Obamanation

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#1 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 7:01 AM EST

Why? What have they done to you? It's not for us to decide what happens there. "Suspected militants" is a very convenient phrase to describe human beings we have no business deciding their fate or to execute them because someone from another country suspects they are the bad guys.

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#1.3 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:15 AM EST

When Islamic militants, based in Pakistan, attack and kill NATO forces, they have to be eliminated right at their source, Pakistan.

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#1.4 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:27 AM EST

US drone strikes kill 18 Pakistani militants

That's good news - THank you for making my Sunday!

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#1.5 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 1:25 PM EST

Atlant98, wether you like it or not we are deciding "Suspected Militants" fate and executing them and at the same time making the world a better place.

  • 8 votes
#1.6 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 1:38 PM EST

if you think this is making the world a better place you are a very optimistic idiot

  • 9 votes
#1.7 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 1:46 PM EST

What a bunch of easily led morons you are. I am with you Alant98, the majority of the posters on here wouldn't know how to make up their own mind on a topic if they even knew they had their own mind to decide with. Most of you have drank the koolaid already and those who haven't should do those of us who are still sane and rational a big favor and drink it too.

  • 4 votes
#1.8 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 1:48 PM EST
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@The Chuckster, "Making the world a better place" ? - Not really, you arrogant pompous twat.

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#1.9 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 1:55 PM EST

The Chinese are writing all of this down. The NRA membership rolls, who need thier assault rifles to defend against invading hordes and ATF agents, will be very easy to classify as "suspected militants".

  • 1 vote
#1.10 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 1:59 PM EST

Virgo, even the billions of Chinese have better things to do. Like suppress the Tibetans and keep an eye on the Uighurs.

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#1.11 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 2:10 PM EST

We should have lobbed a few munitions during the funeral and removed some of the 6,000 mourners (supporters) just for good measure. Remember the only 'good' Taliban are good and dead.

  • 5 votes
#1.12 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 2:21 PM EST

Michael & Titsdales, have both your optomistic idiot and pompous twat hanging. Does the word f-ing pussies ring a bell.

I have a son doing a second tour of duty down there protecting both your sorry a$$es. God damn right I want as many of those sons of bitches dead. So STFU.

  • 9 votes
#1.13 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 2:40 PM EST

Chuckster, YAY FOR YOUR SONS. And you. Love the peeps sitting at home protected by our armed forces and PC-ly closing their eyes to what these terrorists are really like.

  • 8 votes
#1.14 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 2:57 PM EST

Thank you rachel. I'm sorry for being so vulgar but there are reasons for the way a person thinks and I refuse to allow a pair or more of jackasses on their computer judge me without me firing back.

  • 2 votes
#1.15 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 3:21 PM EST

I'd just hate to see a valuable post deleted for vulgarity.

  • 2 votes
#1.16 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 3:23 PM EST

Put the air toys away and GTFO!

  • 4 votes
#1.17 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 3:25 PM EST

rachel-3673200 and The Chuckster-2840003

Why don't you two hook up and go shoot up a mosque?

Oh wait, thats only cool if its done half way around the world.

  • 6 votes
#1.18 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 3:27 PM EST

You bringin' the guns, man? You're angry enough and probably have a Paki connection.

  • 2 votes
#1.19 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 3:31 PM EST

who is the man, not you, I have a son over there doing all the shooting for me as we speak. You're Welcome.

What have you contributed to the war? Not a f-ing thing. Watching Southpark is not contributing ok sunnyboy. It actually makes you less intellegent, not that you ever were.

  • 1 vote
#1.20 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 4:14 PM EST

Drones.
Someday "they" will have drones.......
Would that be - - - terrorism....?

  • 1 vote
#1.21 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 4:35 PM EST

Got 16 missed 6000 Could have ended it right there and then.

    #1.22 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 5:05 PM EST

    I am not an Obama Fan and am a Republican, but I commend these drone activities, keep killing those radical Islamist Fundamentalists. Thank you Obama for continuing Bush's aggressive policies

    I do find it interesting how the Bush Adminsitration was criticized for torturing known terrorists for the sole purpose of gaining intelligence, and they all survived, while the drone attacks are not criticized and all the terrorists die. Again I think saving American lives is worth torturing terrorists whose objective is to kill us. But somehow the media accepts drone killings whereby the Administration is judge and jury. (But I do favor killing these terrorists).

    Which way do ya think the media leans, left or right?

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    #1.23 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 5:23 PM EST

    Chuckster- hang in there ---my son got back literally yesterday --- glad to have him back. Just sorry to see more of our guys going over to protect a bunch of illiterate wife beaters.

    Why the libs promote mysogyny and 8th century life is beyond me.

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    #1.24 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 5:23 PM EST

    taliban goes boom.

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    #1.25 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 5:23 PM EST

    Now we are the terrorist nation. And the drone program is slated to run itself! Obama is too busy with more important things. And it is a secret program now! How barren, and odious and free of morality this is! We are a morals free nation! Soon we will have "Show trials" just like in banana republics! We won't need evidence, testimony, cross examination, discovery or the truth anymore. How convenient justice will be in our age! Might makes right after all! This president is disgusting. He pretends to know the constitution but he love's it not. Just watch he is now set to destroy the second amendment. And if the congress doesn't come around to his way of legislation there will be more movie and mall massacres until they do! The Super Rich and the powers against our nation will see to it. Police state here we come! But even after giving up our guns we still won't be safe,we will be defenseless,but not safe. Our safety will be lies about how peaceful our nation has become,like how prosperous our nation has become! All the emperor's clothes shall all fit so well! What a new age we will have! What... ? Me bitter? If some sharpshooter's bullet finds Obama's brain and splatter's it all over creation I will hardly be surprised. I won't be happy about it because the Super Rich have plenty of people to take his place who are equally ready to flush America down the toilet. They could care less about Obama. If left to his own devices he might have made a good president but he will not be left to his own devices of this I'm sure.

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    #1.26 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 10:22 PM EST
    T.NevilleDeleted

    Drones have their limits, and it is a good bet they don't always shoot straight. There is no substitute for real live spies sniffing out the real deal and targeting the right bad guys. But then we may have lost our touch since the cold war.

      #1.28 - Mon Jan 7, 2013 12:32 AM EST

      Hello folks, let me ask the warmonger sheeple a question? These drones strikes, do you also except the accountability and responsibility for the murders of innocent men, women and children called collateral damage and the accompanying karma that goes with it? I didn't think so. While Bush gave us preemptive war, Obama has given us remote controlled war. In international legal terms, the U.S. government itself should now be viewed as constituting an ongoing criminal conspiracy under international law.

      The U.S. government has committed atrocities all around the world in our name which makes us complicit in war crimes which include torture, enforced disappearances, assassinations, murders, kidnappings, extraordinary renditions, ‘shock and awe’ (bombings), and (the use of) depleted uranium, white phosphorus, cluster bombs, drone strikes, etc.

      We must not allow and permit any aspect of our foreign affairs and defense policies to be conducted by acknowledged war criminals but must insist upon the impeachment, dismissal, resignation, indictment, conviction, and long-term incarceration of all U.S. government officials guilty of such heinous international and domestic crimes.

      The serial aggressions of the U.S. violate such basic documents of international law as the Nuremberg Charter, the Nuremberg Judgment, and the Nuremberg Principles. They also violate the Pentagon’s own U.S. Army Field Manual 27-10 on The Law of Land Warfare, which applies to the President himself as Commander-in-Chief of U.S. Armed Forces under Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution.

      In Pakistan we haven’t declared war on that country. Targeted killing of human beings in a non-battlefield situation is pure murder under basic principles of Anglo-American common law and international criminal law. And in this case, where these murders are both widespread and systematic, these murders constitute a Crime against Humanity under Article 7(1)(a) of the Rome Statute for the International Criminal Court.

      Although the United States is not a party to the Rome Statute, nevertheless President Obama is subject to the jurisdiction of the ICC and its Prosecutor for murdering people in ICC member States.

      Who are the real terrorists and criminals?

      • 2 votes
      #1.29 - Mon Jan 7, 2013 12:57 AM EST

      Just make Paki Islamic militant areas Cleanistan.

      This is what backstabbing and ungrateful Pakis deserve.

        #1.30 - Mon Jan 7, 2013 6:47 AM EST

        From the article:

        Islamabad opposes the use of U.S. drones in its territory, but is believed to have tacitly approved some strikes in past.

        Yes, of course: They "approve" of drone strikes that target Taliban that fight against Pakistan's government; They "strongly disapprove" of drone strikes that target Taliban that fight against NATO and US soldiers in Afghanistan.

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        #1.31 - Mon Jan 7, 2013 3:23 PM EST
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        Good for the drones. Every terrorist must have stiff necks from looking up. Islamabad complains that their sovereignty is intruded upon by the US drones but they don't mind having their children shot or Taliban suicide bombers in the market place. When you clean up your own mess you will find the sovereignty you like to whine about losing. Until then you have no choice but to be ignored like the greedy, arrogant, cowards that you are.

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        Reply#2 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 7:12 AM EST

        Most of the Islamic terrorist strikes, especially in non-Muslim nations, have Saudi and Paki roots.

        9/11 was due to them.

        Did they bother about the sovereignty of the US and other nations, where they did their terror strikes?

        Mostly innocents including children and women are being killed and injured in these terror attacks.

        Are rules, human rights, sovereignty, killings of innocents and other big words used by humans special for these Islamic barbaric and terrorist killers?

        These drone attacks are not enough.

        For world peace and sanity in the world, there ought to be carpet bombings and Paki Islamic militant areas must be made Cleanistan.

        • 4 votes
        #2.1 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 8:54 AM EST

        9/11 was due to the Bush family and their need to help cover up the fraudulent bank dealings that would have implicated the Federal Reserve bank and a few others had their records not been destroyed in the attack on the WTC because the accounting firm for Enron, Ernst&Young, had their main office and all their records in bldg.7, the last building to fall and the one where traces of nano-thermite have been discovered amonst the wreckage, these same records had just been subpeonaed to the Senate Banking committee weeks prior to the WTC attacks. You people should really wake up and do some research for yourselves and quit letting the government and their lap dog, the media, tell you what to think. Did you ever wonder why the WTC specifically, why not just some random buildings in NYC or why not the Capitol building in DC or the White House? Because these terrorists of which you refer to generally just do random suicide bombings on buses and such. They never give much thought to actual targets or reason why other than just the shock value of innocent death. I guess asking you people to think for yourselves is too sensible to be realistic though huh?!?

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        #2.2 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 1:59 PM EST

        Todd you are a stupid 9-11 conspiracy nut job and you have the audacity to call others idiots. F-ing maroon.

        • 6 votes
        #2.3 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 3:13 PM EST

        Todd, dial down the foil antenna atop your pyramid-shaped Reynold's Wrap hat. You're getting signals from planet Psychotica.

        (wow, all that raving and you STILL forgot to add in the Zionist conspiracy! Your Muslim handlers will be so disappointed.

        • 8 votes
        #2.4 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 3:25 PM EST

        Who really cares

        • 1 vote
        #2.5 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 4:14 PM EST

        Gotta love these people like Todd Scofield who come on here with a paranoid conspiracy theory to explain everything in the world. It must be comfort them somehow.

        • 2 votes
        #2.6 - Mon Jan 7, 2013 3:27 PM EST
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        The taliban always has the option to shoot down the drones with their slingshots, or build something more powerful with available kite string, tin foil and Popsicle sticks.

        • 9 votes
        Reply#3 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 7:30 AM EST

        Macguyver could do it.

          #3.1 - Mon Jan 7, 2013 9:43 AM EST
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          Drone strikes death toll is at least 16 confirmed (6 intel sources). The 3 compounds in Babur Pehari,South Waziristan house fighters from the Punjabi Taliban -a group with close ties to Al Qaeda. Pakistan Taliban established sanctuaries in the mountaineous Babar area 140 km (87 miles) NW of Wana,the headquarters of South Waziristan. South Wazi is controlled by Pakistan Army which operates under uneasy truce with militants from local Wazir tribe.. Sunday strike followed Wednesday drone strike which killed Mullah Nazir, a Waziri militant leader.

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          Reply#4 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 8:03 AM EST

          "He was considered pro-government because he and his men had signed peace accord and pledged not to fight against Pakistani forces. He was affiliated with the Afghan Taliban and fought U.S.-led forces in Afghanistan."

          This is how Pakis have been backstabbing NATO forces, while acting as strategic allies!

          US top rulers and military people must be dumb to consider Pakis as allies.

          Declare Pakistan a terrorist nation.

          Stop all economic aid to Pakistan and mercilessly punish Paki militants for their killings.

          • 7 votes
          #4.1 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 8:58 AM EST

          Absolutely, stop all US aid money to Pakistan and stop issuing Visas to the Pakis to come here.

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          #4.2 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 2:20 PM EST

          Pakistan, like Gaza and like Lebanon, are host to terrorist organizations (Taliban, Hamas and Hezbollah respectively). These countries have governments that are impotent. The terrorists know nothing of geopolitical boundaries, they are governed by tribalism and they thrive within these countries.

          Interestingly, these terrorists organizations have the "secret" support of other nations, like Iran, and Muslim Brotherhood controlled Egypt. Their hosts have NO control over them, as Pakistan has no control over the Taliban.

          • 3 votes
          #4.3 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 7:11 PM EST

          If there was a rebel christian faction based in the US that attacked Muslims abroad but promised to not attack/bomb Muslims in the US as long as the government did not try to hunt them down. Would the US agree to that solution.

            #4.4 - Mon Jan 7, 2013 2:11 AM EST

            Absolutely, stop all US aid money to Pakistan and stop issuing Visas to the Pakis to come here.

            Then who will operate all of our Zippy stores and Quicky Marts???

              #4.5 - Mon Jan 7, 2013 2:40 PM EST
              Reply

              Poking a tiger in the eye.

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              Reply#5 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 8:03 AM EST

              who..pak...a tiger..?? more like a beggar bacteria...

                #5.1 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 6:25 PM EST
                Reply

                Reload, gas up, and find a couple dozen more today.......

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                Reply#6 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 8:03 AM EST

                Many of these people were already mad that Mullah Nazir took a US drone up the Wazoor, now we have up and kilt off a bunch of their fellow uneducated tribal area mumblers. But until the US learns how to win a war, they're safe.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#7 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 8:20 AM EST

                They usually travel and live with their wives and children. So Obama has done it a few more children.

                • 5 votes
                Reply#8 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 9:01 AM EST

                Obama should make these drone strikes a daily activity.

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                #8.1 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 9:20 AM EST

                When you choose to live with people who are plotting to attack Americans you've made your choice and I have no sympathy for those people.

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                #8.2 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 10:02 AM EST

                Awwww, poor dead babies! I'd do it myself if I could. Do you think for one second that these "children" when they get to be another 10 years older won't be doing the same thing as daddy? It's too bad that these kids were born into a group of ruthless murdering thugs. So be it and with that they've been designated as targets because their parents choose to continue to attack and kill innocents in Pakistan and where ever they happen to be.

                Good Job Hellfire Missile Team!

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                #8.3 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 10:26 AM EST

                Scubasteve: In fairness, the women and children probably aren't choosing to live with terrorists. They probably don't have any choice, given their non-status under the law. If they ran away, they'd be hunted down and returned to their husbands for punishment.

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                #8.4 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 10:29 AM EST

                Scubasteve58001

                When you choose to live with people who are plotting to attack Americans you've made your choice and I have no sympathy for those people.

                The people who live in Juarez might disagree with you.

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                #8.5 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 10:42 AM EST

                Many Pakistanis complain that innocent civilians have also been killed, something the U.S. rejects.

                Why? Because to the USA every male aged (18-50) is by default a 'militant'. The news rarely mentions that fact.

                Obviously this strategy promotes more 'terrorism'; which is good for the for you pro-murder cheerleaders here because otherwise you might eventually be out of work.

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                #8.6 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:17 AM EST

                Everyone in the FATA region are already aligned with terrorists because ALL the tribes in North and South Waziristan are either Taliban or Taliban sympathetic. This is why the Pakistan Army is afraid to set foot in this region, they are often cut down or retaliations by the tribes kill dozens of policemen usually after dragging them from their police compounds.

                These men are often found beheaded as a message to the Paki government. So YES this is a good bet that everyone that was annihilated in the missile strike was involved in the overall terrorism process. The children often make suicide vests, the women are the logistics and caregivers and the teenagers are taught small squad ambush tactics....this region is lawless.

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                #8.7 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 12:12 PM EST

                so what. either they deliberately chose to use their own children as human shields, or they are the most mind-numbingly stupid people on the planet. You don't want your wife whacked by a Hellfire missile, leave her and the kids at home.

                • 1 vote
                #8.8 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 1:07 PM EST

                Who is the man? Not you that's for sure. Perhaps you would rather send these desert rats a beautiful bouquet of flowers with a white, I give up flag on top.

                  #8.9 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 1:47 PM EST

                  the majority of you draw your so-called information directly from the US news media which, to me, makes you a bunch of foolish sheeple no better than the Pakistani or Afghanistani herdsmen who hate all Americans because of what our government and military do to them and their people. But keep letting yourselves be led, there are white robes and punch bowls full of koolaid down at the end of the hall so please change and help yourself to some koolaid.

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                  #8.10 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 2:19 PM EST

                  Todd you can suck it out of my dick. Who the f do you think you are. Even your name cries out (Pussy).

                    #8.11 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 2:49 PM EST

                    That response is going to be difficult to counter but I'll give it a shot.

                    According to a survey of 15- to 30-year-old men in the two southern provinces where President Barack Obama sent the bulk of American surge troops, 92% of respondents said they didn't know about "this event which the foreigners call 9/11"

                    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904103404576556531604340742.html

                    All the survivors will know is that their family was slaughtered by America for something they can't perceive. If you can't see how that only leads to more hatred towards you and I then there is no hope.

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                    #8.12 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 3:03 PM EST

                    who is the man, I have heard something similar to what you are saying at the start of the war. You are within your own right to believe what you want. Let me remind you though that those cave dwellers hated us before 9-11 and danced in the streets afterwards. I am extremely patriotic and have never forgave them for that.

                    I personally do not believe those conniving little bastards from what my son has told me about them. After over a decade of death and destruction, in my opinion, those Mother F'ers know exactly why we are there. Nobody can possibly be that ignorant. Then again we are talking about Ratinfestedstain.

                      #8.13 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 3:36 PM EST

                      Chuckster - it is obvious you feel quite passionate about your views and I am glad you are able to post them. But as I woman, I hate to see anyone refer to another as being weak by calling them a "pu**y." Many humans have that sex organ and happen to be quite courageous, myself included. I hope your son remains safe and comes home soon. Just wanted to share my thoughts on that.

                      In reference to the use of drones, they are quite efficient in taking out an enemy with "less" damage. Obviously, there isn't any plausible deniability as to the origin of the sender. The idea is to limit what we put on the ground by using technology to take out a select group of "bad guys." However, the use of drones can create issues elsewhere, especially when the intelligence that is gathered is not exact. I have a background in science and sheep skin in International Studies, however I am also a peace-lover (did research in Central America during the later 80's when the place was a warn zone). I do have mixed emotions/thoughts about the use of drones for a variety of reasons.

                        #8.14 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 6:23 PM EST
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                        British invented Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

                        US, British, and allies have kept them in the map.

                        Saddam would have wiped out Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and some other Sunni ruled nations out of the map.

                        USSR or India would have wiped Pakistan out of the map by now.

                        Still Pakis have proved to be most ungrateful.

                        Declare Pakistan a terrorist nation.

                        In Afghanistan, Pakis have backstabbed the US and NATO forces big time. Half of NATO forces deaths are due to ungrateful and backstabbing Pakis.

                        When the NATO forces were entering Kandahar in 2001, Pakis airlifted key al-Qaida, Taliban, ISI and others militants by back door from Kandahar.

                        This includes Mullah Omar, Osama and many including Paki Haqqani militant network leaders.

                        Hope people remember about Pakis sheltering Osama.

                        These Paki Islamic religious Nazis don't bother about their people and they are into reckless killing games in the name of jihad.

                        Drone attacks are not enough. To reduce NATO forces losses, carpet bomb Paki militant areas just like 1991 Iraqi war.

                        We need to worry about all big words like human rights, killing innocents, sovereignty and others only if they care and worry about them.

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                        Reply#9 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 9:05 AM EST

                        So Larry? Do you think the children & females are treated well by their "husbands, fathers, & brothers ? IF any of the children & females (can't call them women because they are treated worse than the livestock they have) died, they are probably better off. I know I would feel that way. There are worse things than death.

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                        #9.1 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 10:26 AM EST

                        johnathan, Where did you come up with all of these " facts"? Surely not in school. Pakis have inhabited the region for over 3000 years. So have the Waziris, Balukis, Afghanis , Tajik and Uzbeks. When the Raj was kicked out of India , it comprised of India , Bangladesh and Pakistan. Those countries separated 'reasonably' along religious lines rather than historical territorial tribal affiliation. Similar problems are apparent in Africa due to the withdrawal of the European conquerors (the Hutu/Tutsi conflict caused 6 million Ugandan deaths).

                        The Pakis,Waziris, Balukis have autonymous regions and a fragile , tenuous relationship, much like Newyorkis, alBamanis and Texis .

                        After 911 one non-military plane was allowed to fly and you know who they were and who authorised it.

                          #9.2 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:39 AM EST

                          Hope people remember who sheltered Bil Ladin..........and who supplied him with weapons and intell. when he fought the Russians. Oh, what a tangled webb we weave when at first we deceive.

                          Life is very complicated for simple solutions.

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                          #9.3 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:46 AM EST

                          this is just further colonization by whites, kill all the natives that resist.

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                          #9.4 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 1:50 PM EST

                          michael, too bad your ancestors didn't think like you, I would have more family around me. Let me ask you a question, does talking out of your rear come natural to you or do you practice real hard at it?

                          • 1 vote
                          #9.5 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 4:27 PM EST
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                          vogvanvooDeleted

                          Twelve suspected militants were killed in three separate American drone attacks in Pakistan's South Waziristan on Saturday night, military and government sources told NBC News.

                          What? All it takes is to SUSPECT that they are militants to be okay with blowing them up? If they were militants maybe they were trying to defend their country from occupying forces. Gee, I wonder who that would be.

                          The US needs to leave the Middle East alone and let the people in those regions settle their own conflicts for a change. If the US wants to actually help them then it would be better to offer asylum for the people who want to live a life separate from religious extremism and let the religious zealots have their own pit where they can live by those archaic books.

                          Think that is impractical? Then what the hell is Israel for?

                          • 6 votes
                          Reply#11 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 9:08 AM EST

                          Who would the occupiers be in Pakistan?

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                          #11.1 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 9:59 AM EST

                          I know I wouldn't like it if any country was flying heavily armed robots over my house on a regular basis. What about you?

                          (Hint: I'm implying that a physical person is not required to make a country's citizens feel threatened by another country)

                          • 1 vote
                          #11.2 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 10:32 AM EST

                          They aren't SUSPECT but NBCnews is required to say suspect unless they have a trial and are found guilty in a court of law. But American Intelligence KNOWS what these people do because we follow them with satellites when they attack American forces in Afghanistan.

                          Pakistan IS NOT IN THE MIDDLE EAST!!!! Pakistan is on the continent of Asia. North of India and actually was part of India until the last century.

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                          #11.3 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 10:38 AM EST

                          Hueynero, if you don't want heavily armed robots over you house, don't support terrorism. Very simple. I for one am overjoyed with delight that these terrorists are worm food and you should be too.

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                          #11.4 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 10:51 AM EST

                          Waynenerro...in response to your questions...yep, nope, Yep, nope, and irrelevant. So as to assuage your deep sense of empathy for those killed by the drone strikes, Relevance is a function for rationalizing to find a means of justifying a particular or set of actions. It's what humans do. The relevance of using drones in Pakistan to kill militants and yet exposing nearby non-combatants to being killed is very much like the allies bombing German cities during World War Two during which thousands upon thousands of innocent civilians were killed. The relevance of the comparison is that it demonstrates that euro-centric people wiling bomb Europeans (even non-combatants) and hence euro-centric people can feel justified in bombing non-euro-centric peoples. It's called rationalization. And a damn fine demonstration of how technology has lessen the collateral damage aspects. During World War Two a full Squadron of bombers would have dropped several thousand pounds of bombs on the village killing a hugely larger number of civilians and possibly missing the intended targeted bad guy. You (it's your tax dollars, assuming you pay taxes) spent hundreds of thousands of dollars using "smart weapons" to reduce the chances of killing anymore civilians than absolutely necessary. Don't you feel better now ?

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                          #11.5 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:43 AM EST

                          At no point did I support terrorism. Everyone who responded to me seems to be under the assumption that because the people were killed by a US drone strike that automatically makes them terrorists.

                          The article itself says that they were suspected militants. SUSPECTED. Just like I wouldn't want police being able to kill suspected criminals on the spot, I don't want the US to be able to kill suspected militants. Before you kill someone it should be KNOWN that they are a threat.

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                          #11.6 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 10:13 PM EST

                          The article itself says that they were suspected militants. SUSPECTED.

                          And you think that the article writers are the last word about what is happening on the ground there in the frontier provinces of Pakistan?

                          C'mon, get real. These drone strikes are carefully designed to take out the worst of the worst in Taliban leadership and fighter ranks while avoiding civilian casualties whenever possible. The militants killed are often tracked for weeks on end to confirm terrorist intentions and activity. They are war combatants and treated as such, rightfully so.

                          These are more than civilian "suspects" as the articles make it sound.

                          Drone strikes are not carried out over hunches.

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                          #11.7 - Mon Jan 7, 2013 3:47 PM EST
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                          Good it is a start. How about 12,million more for starters.

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                          Reply#12 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 9:42 AM EST

                          Gotta love them drones. Keep up the good work. I can see in the future the army, airforce and navy will all be controlled by some one with a IPad .

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                          Reply#13 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 9:58 AM EST

                          It's going to have to be...all these kids are good at nowadays is diddling with video games and playing with their darned newfangled cell phones! WHIPPERSNAPPERS! Can't see nothing with their heads buried in those confounded gadgets. What if they wander into the road? They sure couldn't get out of the way of a fast moving horseless carriage with those ridiculous droopy drawers they're so fond of wearing!

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                          #13.1 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:38 AM EST

                          unwantedguest, great sense of humor. Thanks, I enjoyed that very much. I also happen to live with one of them so I can relate.

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                          #13.2 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 1:58 PM EST
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                          You can run, but you can't hide. May Allah receive you with the many virgins promised.

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                          Reply#14 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 10:19 AM EST

                          Good job Mr. President, let em know you can run but you can't hide.

                          Talk that jihad mess if you want too, I'm sure the US has plenty more hot ones waiting for you.

                          My nephew is in the army and I don't like the ideal of using our young people as cannon fodder. I think the drone program is awesome. US tax dollars well spent.

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                          Reply#15 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 10:25 AM EST

                          General Atomics and Textron as well as Boeing and Lockheed Martin thank you for your support!!

                            #15.1 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 2:19 PM EST
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                            If the truth was ever published about our roll in the drone strikes in Pakistan, it would read like a spy novel -- because it is. We pay the Pakis a bunch of money to let us continue the drone strikes. In return for the money, they feed us little bits of intelligence about where the terrorists are hiding. They get to publicly decry the drone strikes and whip their citizens into a hateful frenzy, which helps them draw some of the insurgents out into the open. Secretly, the Pakis know they don't have the fortitude or the trust in their own military to actually go after the insurgents on their own, so they welcome the US drones as a way to do their work for them. In the mean while, some of the military and ISI folks are still supplying, training and hiding the terrorists, but that helps the Paki government try to negotiate for more money for the little intelligence leaks they provide. It's all a big game, and as long as the drones stay out of Paki military bases and the areas around the capitol, they will go on. Sooner or later, a strike on a government building will kill Ayman Al Zawahiri and the Paki government will implode, leading to a complete cessation of drone strikes, but that is in the next book.

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                            Reply#16 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 10:34 AM EST

                            Back to Basics: love your journalistic style! You also probably pretty much exposed the entire US govt. policy towards Whoozitstan, and now you can expect a midnight knock on the door, and a date with a waterboard.

                              #16.1 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 1:13 PM EST

                              At the very least expect all of your e-mails and text messages to be read.. and interpreted.

                                #16.2 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 2:22 PM EST

                                Sooner or later, a strike on a government building will kill Ayman Al Zawahiri and the Paki government will implode, leading to a complete cessation of drone strikes, but that is in the next book.

                                Best ending in many a post.

                                  #16.3 - Mon Jan 7, 2013 3:51 PM EST
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                                  Those people in Pakistan blow each other up on a regular basis but complain when we blow up a few terrorists. But we'll make up for it by letting twenty or thirty thousand more pakistans into the country and setting them up with gas stations, motels, and convenience stores. Now if you are an American and want to get set up with a gas station or motel by our government, forget it, Foreigners only. Because our government do love dem Foreigners.

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                                  Reply#17 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 10:48 AM EST

                                  You're not pissed enough.

                                  Suffer more!

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                                  #17.1 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:00 AM EST

                                  That was funny god.

                                  Tarzan, why don't you rob them out of existance?

                                    #17.2 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 2:06 PM EST
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                                    I wonder how Hitler or Japan would have handled Pakistan or Afghanistan. I'll bet there wouldnt have been a man left alive in either country.

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                                    Reply#18 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 10:53 AM EST

                                    He also burned the retarded. You would have been one of the first to go.

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                                    #18.1 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 10:57 AM EST

                                    So, Tarzan, you want us to be more like Hitler or WWII Japan?

                                      #18.2 - Mon Jan 7, 2013 3:53 PM EST
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                                      Keep pounding those bastards! Thats the only thing they understand. Live by the sword die by the sword.

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                                      Reply#19 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 10:55 AM EST

                                      Absolutely true that resolute counterforce is the only way to stop them.

                                        #19.1 - Mon Jan 7, 2013 3:54 PM EST
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                                        Good riddance.

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                                        Reply#20 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:08 AM EST

                                        And how many children died in this one? Obama is a hypocritical SOB. He acts like he gives a damn about kids being killed in the US and uses the incident to strip even more freedom from the good people of this country. Meanwhile, his drone strikes have murdered hundreds of innocent men women and children. Nobel peace prize......what a joke. And bush was a piece of @!$%# too so dont start with the Repug nonsense.

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                                        Reply#21 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:18 AM EST

                                        These DRONES....have this written on them......"HOW TO WIN FRIENDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE." These MILITANTS......have been EXECUTED....in part.....because.....ONE of THEM.......shot a little INNOCENT girl.....her name is MALALA.

                                        And......I promise....THIS IS JUST A DOWN PAYMENT for her shooting. This will GO ON.....and ON....until our BLOOD THIRSTY DRONES.....are SATISFIED.

                                        And.....PROBABLY.....never will be.

                                        They have been sent to that NETHER WORLD.....and probably told......"Never to do that again."



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                                        Reply#22 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:27 AM EST

                                        Ralph J. Monasterio, I thought it just said, " Eat @!$%# and die.

                                          #22.1 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 2:14 PM EST
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                                          Sonia56234Deleted

                                          Let me preface this by saying I voted for Obama (twice). At least as much based on his potential as the quality (or lack thereof) of his opponents. However, I have to say that if it was Bush doing this, every hand-wringer this side of NYC would be crying for his head, but since its Obama its somehow OK to be judge, jury, executioner. This is such a republican thing to do, the end justifying the means. In the long run, it always blows up in your face.

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                                          Reply#24 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:44 AM EST

                                          he is a fraud, a very dangerous one. when your idealist President has no ideals the country is in for some real heartache

                                            #24.1 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 1:56 PM EST

                                            BG, killing "Suspected Militants" is a good thing no matter what side of political spectrum you are in. Rejoice, 18 dead, 18 at a time leads to thousands sooner or later. It is a great day to be alive, isn't it?

                                            Michael, stop being such a wussy and embrace black. Black is beautiful baby! Four and a half years ago I was working 2 to 3 days a week. I am now working 7 days a week for the last 2 years. Yeah he is a dangerous one, dangerous to those that don't like to work. Thank you Mr. President for killing bad guys non stop and for my Auto Industry Job.

                                              #24.2 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 2:21 PM EST

                                              Post 11.7 again.

                                                #24.3 - Mon Jan 7, 2013 3:56 PM EST
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                                                How many innocent women and children is Obama killing with his drone attacks? Come on liberal news media, you know if this was Bush there would be a daily count of the innocent being killed and be calling Bush a war criminal.

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                                                Reply#25 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:47 AM EST

                                                How many innocent women and children are killed everyday by Muslims?

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                                                #25.1 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 12:40 PM EST

                                                The main street press never called Bush a "war criminal." That's just another fantasy of the moronic political right. Bush wasn't a war criminal. He was simply a run-of-the-mill, dime-a-dozen Republican fool who wasted $2 trillion American dollars and 3,000 American lives.

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                                                #25.2 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 12:43 PM EST

                                                dmallett, I have a better question. Who gives a rat's a$$.

                                                Zorro, well said.

                                                  #25.3 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 2:30 PM EST

                                                  You mean the muslim Obama Pray hard?

                                                    #25.4 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 5:57 PM EST

                                                    The liberals when Bush was in office Chuckster, of course liberals don't care when it is Obama doing the killing.

                                                      #25.5 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 5:58 PM EST

                                                      You are right Zorro, Huffington post, media matters and MSNBC are not legitimate news sources since they did call Bush a war criminal.

                                                        #25.6 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 6:10 PM EST
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                                                        seems to be raining drones in pakistan,I expect taliban will go hide in some other place.Not likely they will set aside the policy for murder and intimidation.Fighting fire with fire seems like at some point someone should offer a water hose.Has anyone offered a dialogue to consider a solution other than both sides blowing people up?

                                                          Reply#26 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 12:06 PM EST

                                                          Hey all of you fools who are saying "how many women and children are being killed" ask yourself how many women and children have they killed and will continue to do so. Then ask yourself how many women and children died on 9/11.

                                                          bomb those @!$%#s back to the stone age

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                                                          Reply#27 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 12:32 PM EST

                                                          Couldn't of said it better Myself.

                                                            #27.1 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 1:11 PM EST

                                                            so much hate, so little intelligence, you'd fit right in over there in those 3rd world toilets

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                                                            #27.2 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 1:57 PM EST

                                                            The same thing happened in 1861--1865--the Civil War---the yankees came south and killed men--women--and children--go home yankee

                                                              #27.3 - Sun Jan 6, 2013 4:10 PM EST
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