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Subscribe to RSSA Boeing 787 Dreamliner was forced to make an emergency landing in Japan Wednesday due to battery problems and a burning smell in the cockpit. This combined with two other safety incidents last week has prompted Japan's two top airlines to ground all 787 planes. NBC's Tom Costello reports.
TOKYO — A Boeing 787 Dreamliner headed for Tokyo made an emergency landing Wednesday morning in Takamatsu, Japan after error messages indicated there was a problem with the plane's batteries and smoke in the plane.
An "unusual smell" was detected inside the cockpit and the passenger cabin, according to a news conference held by All Nippon Airlines, whose plane was grounded. Fire trucks were deployed after the plane landed, but there was no fire to put out.
This adds to a slew of recent problems with Boeing's new Dreamliner aircraft. Another 787 — the world's first mainly carbon-composite airliner — had two fuel leaks, a battery fire, a wiring problem, brake computer glitch and cracked cockpit window last week.
The two Japanese airlines — ANA and Japan Airlines — said they would ground the 21 Boeing 787 jets currently being flown for further safety checks.
Both Japan and the United States have opened broad and open-ended investigations into the plane after a series of incidents that have raised safety concerns.
ANA said instruments on the early Wednesday domestic flight indicated a battery error. All passengers and crew evacuated safely by using the plane's inflatable slides, ANA said.
ANA said it evacuated 129 passengers and eight crew members from the Dreamliner after measuring instruments in the flight's cockpit indicated there was a battery malfunction and the pilot smelled something strange.
Flight 692 bound for Haneda Airport near Tokyo left Yamaguchi Airport in western Japan shortly after 8 a.m. but made an emergency landing in Takamatsu at 8:45 a.m. after smoke appeared in the cockpit, an Osaka airport authority spokesman said.
Reuters
An All Nippon Airways' Boeing 787 Dreamliner, photographed here by a passenger, made an emergency landing at Takamatsu airport in western Japan after there were reports of smoke in the cockpit.
Boeing spokesman Marc Birtel told Reuters: "We've seen the reports, we're aware of the events and are working with our customer."
Federal Aviation Administration officials said Friday they would conduct a comprehensive review of Boeing’s 787 airplane program following several high-profile mishaps, including a fire. But the FAA sought Friday to reassure fliers that they still believe the airplane is safe to fly.
In a statement following the emergency landing in Japan, the FAA said it is monitoring the report: "The incident will be included in the comprehensive review the FAA began last week of the 787 critical systems, including design, manufacture and assembly."
The FAA plans to review all aspects of the new aircraft, including design and production. But the review will focus heavily on the electric components of the aircraft.
The new 787 Dreamliner, which went into service in the fall of 2011, relies much more heavily on electric components than previous airplane models.
Boeing officials said Friday that they welcome a review of the new model aircraft and that the FAA's scrutiny did not diminish the company's confidence in the airplane.
Japan is so far the biggest market for the Dreamliner, with ANA and Japan Airlines Co. flying 24 of the 50 Dreamliners delivered to date.
Shares of Boeing Dreamlier suppliers in Japan came under pressure on Wednesday, with Fuji Heavy Industries, GS Yuasa Corp, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, IHI down between 1.6 and 3 percent, while the benchmark Nikkei shed 1.3 percent.
Japanese authorities said on Monday they would investigate fuel leaks on a 787 operated by JAL, and the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board said later its agents would analyse the lithium-ion battery and burned wire bundles from a fire aboard another JAL 787 at Boston's Logan Airport last week.
NBC News' Allison Linn and Arata Yamamoto contributed reporting.
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"...the pilot smelled something strange."
"Louie, you eat the chicken lunch?"
We're making an emergency landing because we think something is burning and they wonder what it was they smelled? That smell followed the passengers and crew right into the terminal and into the washrooms.
So outsourcing the avionics software to India didn't work out so well. Maybe American workers are better than Ivy League CEO's think.
It is easier to land, than to recover from a crash...
I have worked and ridden on many Boeing designed and built aircraft...
My preference is sleeping on a Boeing, that staying awake on a Scare Bus...
OK turn the wrench to fix the fuel line, but what did you expect from the batterys made from JAPAN ,Fuji Heavy Industries,Gsy uasa Corp, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries being the supplier for the 787 here should be looked at first
The batteries are actually one of the few things made here in the U.S., but lithium polymer batteries are quack science and dangerous. Lithium polymers are nuclearly unstable liquid crystal structures that, while high in electrical differential, are enormously dangerous.
If that were me on that plane I would have shat myself! If I ever smell smoke (or see it) on a plane while I'm 20,000 feet in the air my heart will probably explode. Hope they get it figured out, Boeing is the best!
The batteries that are in the Boeing 787 are made by Kyoto based GS Yuasa Corp that is in Japan but the battery charger for the batteries are made by Securaplane Technologies so there could be a problem here.
Boeing: "we're aware of the events and are working with our customer." Um, your "customer" includes thousands of people that may or may not be flying on this thing. A little more transparency and a little less arrogance, OK?
Why should they be transparent? Obama doesn't have to, so why should they?
Jesus, stfu with the rhetoric already. It's childish and makes you look idiotic.
Al, why don't you move along, like a nice right wing lunatic, and find some conservative site to post yout rants?
Randy, perhaps you should do a little research first before posting your ignorance for all to read.
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Translation: Thank God there have been no casualties.
Hope Boeing gets this all squared away. If ever there was case against outsourcing.........
It use to be the lonely heart ads, now its just plain spam...duly reported to the mods.
Sticking with the Screamliner?
well what did they expect from a bunch of union workers that only care about their paycheck and how much vacation they get. they could care less if a plane full of people goes down in flames and die.
I bet you 80% of that plane and it's parts are made overseas you jackass.
Don't be blaming the working stiff for the executive cost cutting measures they demand on engineering to make more profit to fill their and their shareholders pockets to produce a lemon !!!
jjj...
You are an ass.
jjj-1504336
That's a cheap shot. Union workers are very much like you. They care about their families and they care what happens to yours. BTW: When you take a break from whining, read up on the history of unions and what they have done for this country. The problem is not in the union concept, it is the gangsters we can't seem to get out of running them. Kind of like our government.
Having said that, I think I'll wait for the next plane.
should have a Chinese Crew on a Chinese built plane, Right ! ! !
But it was a Boeing, going boing boing -
Your ignorance can only be blamed on FOX A--HOLE
愚蠢的共和黨人我們外包所有美國人工作。我們做每月一百元。飛機從天上下降。
The captain smelled Mongo on board from Blazing Saddles. That big guy that ate the beans
lol only a conservative can blame design on the people who put it together. The Chinese engineers who designed it are not in the union,. lol
There are too many reports of problems with the 787. This leads one to believe that there's a concerted effort to ground this plane, which by the way has already been announced, for reasons other than the minor problems being reported. Is the union attempting to remove this plane from being manufactured in SC? If you remember, the decision to assemble the plane here was met with great resistance from the union.
Pippo,
Everyone acts like the unions were the first things infiltrated by crime, corruption, and that used violence. In order to exist the unions had to seduce the gangsters and thugs away from the companies that worked with them and used them to bully any workers who talked about organizing. It's laughable for people to act like corruption and violence started with the unions. Red staters will someday discover that information is hidden from them in these things called books.
jjj- Do you have a clue? Boeing made a HUGE mistake by trying to outsource this entire plane. It cost them billions of dollars. They are retracing the design and manufacturing BACK to the US.
Regrets I've had a few....DOZEN. Sing the sad song Boeing. Too bad for you.
There is not an aircraft built that does not rely on out-sourced parts and systems. Even the aircraft built/designed in the 1960's...
Most Air Carriers out-source their maintenance, some to foreign countries with very questionable certifications, using off-brand parts...
BTY - China passed a LAW requiring ALL foreign owned companies to be Unionized in their country. Now OVER 80% have complied and higher wages/benefits are being forced on them. It is only ONE Union in China, run by their government...
AC, the boeing 787 is about 84% outsourced. That's more than double any other outsourcing proportion in the boeing line since its inception. Wrong direction.
Patrick the misinformed.
Patrick93 is on drugs.
Boeing is now suffering from a crisis of confidence with the 787.
I feel like James McNerney has basically thumbed his nose at the public and failed to adequately acknowledge the legitimacy of the public's concern. The board should ask for his resignation and give serious thought to moving BA headquarters back to Seattle so the executives aren't so isolated from where the real work gets done.
Boy, will I second that motion!
Boeing is Seattle, Seattle is Boeing. The HQ belongs here!
Best dang a/c mechs in the world.
Best aircraft mechanics belong to virgin airlines and bronson, sorry.
OK Patrick, you be proud...and some of the MROs I've worked at can say the same thing. The point is, people who work on commercial aircraft are generally very knowledgeable and motivated to excel...despite all the troll naysayers that always show up on these threads.
I've flown in enough planes made by Airbus, boeing, Lockheed, and virgin to say this with enormous confidence. Boeing is finished.
Boeing is far from finished. Even if they take major heat on the 787, they have a huge backlog of 737 orders to keep them busy (and in the black) for the foreseeable future. These problems with the 787 will be corrected. There are unique costs sometimes associated with being a pioneer. The real question is how long they will be able to keep ANA and JAL as customers. Also, last time I checked, Virgin does not manufacture commercial airplanes.
no, the new CEOs of boeing have done nothing but ruin the brand since they arrived in 07. They will tarnish it into ruin and the orders of 737s will be retracted. Unless the outsourcing is completely stopped, boeing will be done by 2025. Even if it isn't, there's no way boeing, subsidized as it is by the now failing U.S. government, can possibly contend with Lockheed Martin now being funded by Canadian investors and Virgin Airlines producing the highest quality and most luxurious commercial planes to date. Branson will ruin airbus by 2030 and boeing by 2060 at the latest.
Chris, Virgin Industries actually created a special aeronautics market in 07. I've been lucky enough to fly on the maiden voyage of the virgin 100. costliest flight ever, but it's like being on a silent concorde. Boeing cannot currently compete with this.
Lockheed hasn't manufactured a single commercial airplane since they halted TriStar construction in 1984. They manufacture exclusively military aircraft.
chris, try again they've been building for Lufthansa since 2006.
What model? Hmmm? Give me a name, or better yet a link with a picture. But you can't, can you, because there is no such thing.
The last Lockheed aircraft flown by Lufthansa was the Constellation. Half a century ago.
Mars-5 x 6,
Tauros-B x 3
and the Magdaer x 2.
All readily available on the lufthansa fleet website. Hope you can read deuche, comrade.
Put the bong down, call your parents, and apologize profusely. Maybe they will let you move back into the basement.
patrick
Gees, you really do need to take those reading lessons. Chris is right.
Here, go look at these:
http://konzern.lufthansa.com/en/fleet.html
Patrick, the more you speak the more you sound like a clown!
If you keep posting you will make it to IDIOT TROLL status!
Uh Patrick, here's a link:
http://konzern.lufthansa.com/en/fleet.html
Please point out to us those "aircraft" you claim that Lockheed builds commercially.
While you're at it, how about shoing us a picture of Mars5 x6, TaurosB x3 and a Magdaer x 2.
The last commrcial jetliner Lockheed was the L1011:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Lockheed_aircraft
Perhaps you are the one who should put the bong down.
Did they fashion the plane after the Ford Pinto???
No that was the TBD Devastator.
Boeing has a history of deny deny deny. Google 737 and "rudder reversal". They denied that there was a problem for YEARS, but after a handful of crashes, they had to admit that their design was faulty. So when Boeing tells you that "everything is okay", be afraid. Be VERY afraid.
Really ignorant comments about the best a/c manufacturer in the world.
general
It took the NTSB 3 or 4 years to find and duplicate the problem. They didn't find it until a 737 rolled over on approach (twice). The plane corrected itself both times and the plane landed ok. That's when they found out what was causing the problem and Boeing fixed it.
flnobody,
I don't know everything about this but I know of at least one crash that happened because of that problem. You kind of made it sound like that didn't happen.
elk, the best manufacturers in the world now belong to virgin airlines and bronson. He owns a small monopolization in the market. Virgin airlines doesn't buy air bus or boeing, they make their own, and from personal experience, they are much quieter and much smoother rides.
bill
There were 2 or 3 crashes and 1 almost crash. What part of the NTSB took 3 or 4 years to find out what the problem was? That made you think I implied that it didn't happen?
So as planes are crashing you're saying it's solely up to the NTSB to find the design flaws and duplicate the problems that are killing hundreds of people before any action is taken? Sorry, my bad.
patrick
WOW, these pictures I found sure do look like Boeing and Air Bus aircraft to me.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=virgin+airlines+planes&qpvt=virgin+airlines+planes&FORM=IGRE
Patrick, maybe so, I'll probably never know because I only travel now when they twist my arm (and cough up outrageous bucks!). I just know talking to mechs and techs in the MRos that they all respect Boeing a/c way above Airbus when it come to large commercial a/c.
I also admit to bias as I was Boeing trained and part of first 39 747 deliveries, for whatever that's worth.
flnobody, quoted directly from the virgin airlines home website: "All aircraft flown in the virgin air fleet are produced in full by Virgin Industries in accordance with international and federal aeronautics regulations." I believe you'd see a false advertising suit if this weren't the case.
bill
Now again I will ask you. Where did I say "it is solely up to NTSB's to find the design flaws and duplicate the problems that are killing hundreds of people before any action is taken?" You really should learn how to read. Or at least get someone to read for you. I am sorry that I didn't provide all the names and their job titles of all the people that were involved in the investigations. But yes, it is solely up to NTSB to lead the crash investigations, and sign off on any causes of the accident or mishap. It is up to the FAA to approve any design changes to the aircraft.
Yes you are.
More government redundancy. Fuse the organizations, cut those not needed, and get the job done much, much faster.
patrick
Read this from virgin's own web site.
http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/tridion/images/fleetnov_tcm4-426050.pdf
Now tell me again what aircraft they don't fly.
Well I guess someone should start suing.
patrick
Are you saying that the aircraft manufacture should be investigating their own aircraft crashes? Or you saying the NTSB and the FAA should join together as one organization?
the ntsb and FAA should be melded into a single entity. That said, aircraft companies should have to pay for these investigations and not tax payers.
patrick
Money wise it would be cheaper maybe. But since the NTSB also investigates the FAA (those guys in the tower work for the FAA). It would be like the aircraft manufacture investigating their own crashes.
NTSB does more than just air investigations. Rail, ship, and pipelines are also part of their mandate. They cannot be "melded" into the FAA.
boeing =/= the FAA... And there are ways of merging organizations like that while maintaining checks and balances. You simply need someone with a good logistics and logics background. And I still believe whenever a company must be investigated, the entirety of the investigation bill goes to the aircraft manufacturers.
chris, they are both simply industry regulators. If you centralize industry regulations, it makes the payroll smaller, makes standards more uniform, and overall is better for both the industry and the tax payer. It's more than doable, you simply lack vision.
patrick
Why not join the Air Force and the Army into one unit. Look what you could save. Oh wait, that was already done once. It didn't work. ø¿ø
Patrick,
If this was a court. You would have been found guilty on every count.
Count 1) Ignorance: Every single Virgin Aircraft is made by Boeing or Airbus.
Count 2) Stupidity: Virgin DOES NOT build their own fleet as you stated.
They bought their jets just like every other airline!
Count 3) Foolishness : Everything you said was one click away from being proven a lie.
Patrick, You are the TROLL of the NIGHT. Do you really think everybody else is as dumb as you?
Good Grief. What a posing loser.
http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/us/en/the-virgin-experience/our-fleet/new-747.html
Looks like the are flying Boeing 747's
You come off like a moron. Maybe somewhere in your j*g off ranting you could then explain some kind of point in your statement
and how that clearly and honestly refuted generalelectric's statement
Now I don't agree with general's overly dramatic statement, but you're like one of those whiny little spoiled brats for whom lying and being disingenuous is a reflex if you don't get your way. What was your mother doing instead of raising you correctly is the question. Don't spaz out on me for pointing it out, little twerp.
Frankly you all sound a bit childish trying to outsmart one another - I think the rest of us can get by with an adult debate with no name calling and bad attitudes.
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I still haven't heard if there is a fault that it lies with Boeing or the maintenance crew for JAL yet.
Or the battery designer/manufacturer, eh?
the air craft is too new to have even had any maintenance lol sure, blame the little guy.
George, maintenance "happens" before and after every flight to some extent or other. That's just a fact of a/c life.
This plane utilizes a lot of new technology, be patient. And jjj, you are blithering idiot.
Nightmareliner
Huh?...idiot.
Sounds like the battery supplier .... hmmmmm.
No airplane manufacturer makes thier own batteries.
wanna bet? Virgin airlines and virgin industries (all bronson's people) make everything that goes into a virgin air plane. And let me tell you, they are much nicer planes with much quieter, smoother rides and much better customer service.
1) The name of the head of Virgin Airlines is named "Richard BRANSON" , not "Bronson". 2) Virgin Airlines does NOT manufacture airplanes. Virgin flies Airbus and Boeing aircraft. These are true facts that you could look up.
John S Smith. I'm on the virgin airline website right now. "All aircraft flown in the virgin air fleet are produced in full by Virgin Industries in accordance with international and federal aeronautics regulations." Take your ignorance somewhere useful please.
Patrick93 you are kidding right? Virgin Airlines and all of it's subdivisions; Atlantic, America, and Australia are Airlines not Airplane manufacturers nor does its parent company Virgin own or operate and Airplane manufacturing companies. Their cabins are customized and I'm not sure if that is even done by Virgin.
Here is a quote word for word form Virgin Atlantic about their fleet,
"We fly one of the youngest fleets of Boeing and Airbus aircraft." () So there you have it Boeing and Airbus.
They do their own maintenance
"With 20 years of B747 experience and over 15 years on the A340s, Virgin Atlantic's engineering department is no longer the new kid on the block. We achieve the very highest maintenance standards on our own fleet and we will offer you the same dedication and care on your own aircraft, treating them as one of our own." ()
That was pointless that I typed out that paragraph Patrick93 is obviously just a troll.... I just noticed all of his other posts....
Patrick THE TROLL,
Why? Everything you say is blown up in your face and you keep coming up with the same crap. Why?
Just wondering does troll have the same meaning as moron.
What is unique about the 787 is the outsourcing of a large number of components used to build the aircraft. The much delayed delivery of the aircraft reflects the enormous engineering and logistics obstacles that needed to be overcome. As a consumer, I hope that Boeing beefed up the dollars spent on an uber thorough testing process of both the individual components and the integration of the components as well - instead of taking the money saved by outsourcing and holding to a testing process that may have been acceptable for old technology aircraft.
AverageGuy-nicley said and presented with a construcive attitude. I only wish that more comments follow your example.
Boeing has radically changed the world of aerospace assembly and is headed in the right direction. I agree with you that thier QC system will need to evolve with the new system of outsourcing/materials. A change of this magnitude will involve some mistakes. So far, I am only seeing some wrinkles.....................
Well said guys - any radical departure in technology is filled with "glitches." I think it is to Boeing's credit that there have been so few. I am also disappointed in the media reporting "bad stuff" with inadequate technical details to support their stories, which comes under the heading of inflammatory to me.
elk
So what you are saying is, they shouldn't report problems (two electrical fires, several fuel dumps on the ground and a cracked wind screen in flight) on a new aircraft. Until the company has time to fix it first? If one should crash, should they not report that either?
boeing is finished. Lockheed Martin and Virgin Air will both destroy them and Airbus in their entirety.
no fl, I am saying the media reporting these events is no longer doing their job getting details and reporting comprehensively, like they did years ago. I recognize this is a problem because of the electronic age, but it also leads to misinformation and misunderstanding by people who know little or nothing about airplanes and is thus somewhat inflammatory.
I certainly would never want to see the media not report such events - I just want a more professional job done by them.
Ahh Patrick, it appears now that you are just an ignorant troll - Boeing and Airbus are going to be here after you and I are just memories.
boeing will continue to outsource and deplete their brand. Airbus has never risen to quality, and now Lockheed is getting enormous investment from the canadians and branson is taking the world by storm. Boeing and Airbus are going to be dead before the half century.
Patrick the troll. Cased closed.
They put alot of technologies on the plane except parachutes.
Thank you for your knowledgeable input about commercial airplane flight.
And adult diapers.
Bill...good one, heh-heh. :)
Give it a little bit of time. There is a long list of very successful airplanes that had their growing pains. When a manufacturer builds an airplane, it is impossible for them to test what happens when people other than their engineers are operating airline 24 hour operations.
Tell that to virgin airlines. Bronson is the new Warren Buffett and Andrew Carnegie, except he isn't a slimeball, yet. (let's hope he stays pure).
Its Branson, not Bronson. And they do not manufacture their own commerical jets. And I googled your quote and came up with no results. Meanhwhile, derp:
Branson needs to look over his shoulder @ Air Asia...
Air Asia the lowest fares and World's Best Low Cost Airline...
There is a basic business policy difference:
1. Air Asia prices their services to fill ALL the seats...
2. Branson concentrates on quality service...
BTY - I have over 125+k miles saved with Virgin Air. But that landing fee into the UK (over $500) limits the viable flights with VA...
The only airframe than Branson's Virgin Group manufactures is their Virgin Galactic SS1...
Patrick is such a TROLL that he can't even spell the name of his hero right.
D'oh!
You have to wonder who in the govt Boeing pissed off, LOL
How many other airliners had emergency landings today?
"Say, Billy, are you in the union?""
"Yeah"
"Put down that broom and come over her and assemble this ultra-complex wiring diagram for the cockpit."
"OK, but I only passed 9th grade and I've never done that before."
"Billy, c'mon man, you are in the union, quality is job none!"
"Duh, OK boss!"
愚蠢的共和黨人我們外包所有美國人工作。我們做每月一百元。飛機從天上下降。
As I was reading I was afraid this little story was going somewhere gay creepy. "Billy"?
So, Urban, you really don't even have a clue about Boeing or its personnel, do you? As one of the 10,000 who put the first 747 out the door, I'm here to tell you those folks putting the a/c together and testing them have forgotten more than you are ever going to know about airplanes...take that to the bank ignoramus!
elk, no, not anymore. Quality aerophysicists haven't walked through boeing since you left. Boeing is finished and Vrigin Airlines and Lockheed Martin will crush both them and Airbus.
Only in your dreams Patrick93troll
the writing is on the wall that airbus will fail. If you can't imagine the current boeing ceos sinking the ship on their own arrogance, you're deluded. It will take a miracle to turn boeing around.
Captain Patrick THE AIRLINE TROLL.
I work for Lockheed Martin in Fairfax, Virginia.
You are the deluded one. Troll Boy!
Holy smokin' Lithium, Batman!
The batteries they're equipping them with aren't much better than the HighCap ones we're using on our model electric airplanes.
So far, I've known three people who each lost a van, a garage and a house to lithium battery technology. It's pretty good high capacity energy storage stuff, puts out lots of smoke, does a pretty good job of catching anything it's sitting on afire. Wen you think about it, you can have the equivalent of a tank full of Nitromethane fuel contained in a 2x3x6 brick.
Don't charge them unattended, charge them with a proper balance charger and put them in a ceramic bread pan so they don't do you in. Maybe Boeing can install theirs in a brick oven and offer up Inflight Pizza on the side.
They are scary beasts, eh? I'm hoping we get some details about design and installation safety in the reports on this event, but so far nothing.
Or the Li batteries in the cell-phones that were exploding and killing the users/setting houses on fire...
The Volt/Prius fires are seldom reported...
Lithium is a highly reactive element. If overcharged, physically damaged or allowed to get too hot, lithium-ion cells can experience thermal “runaway” and even explode—as has happened on numerous occasions with the lithium-ion batteries in laptop computers and mobile phones. Also, if allowed to drain completely, they can short-circuit and make recharging dangerous. For these reasons, all lithium-ion rechargeable batteries contain circuitry that shuts them down when their voltage rises above or falls below a certain level.
AC, you're confusing ionic lithium with polymerized lithium. The exploding cell phone batteries were actually cadmium and mercury batteries, a very cheap but very volatile combo.
Lithium polymer batteries are quack science and disasters waiting to happen.
Over the last decade there have been several high profile recalls of lithium-ion batteries. Nokia recalled 46 million cell phone batteries at risk of exploding, Lenovo recalled 205,000 batteries, Dell recalled 22,000 laptop batteries after one caught on fire, and Sony recalled 10 million batteries used in a variety of laptops. In most instances, the recall was due to design defects that allowed contaminates to prevent the safety features from working or were due to problems in the manufacturing of the batteries. One such failure of a lithium-ion laptop battery occurred in mid-air during a commercial flight... see components.about.com/od/Components/a/Liionsafety.htm
Jul 2007 - Chinese welder killed when the battery on his cell phone exploded in shirt pocket
Nov 2007 – South Korean man killed by LG phone while carring in shirt pocket, on job site..
Aug 2010 - India man - talking on his Nokia 1209, Li-Ion 700 mAh battery (BL-5CA)....
Jan 2010 - Indian woman was killed while talking on phone...
These are just a few...
Patrick the Troll you are the quack disaster who won't STFU already.
Just saw pictures of the battery box. They look nae sae good. Lithium Crispies, ready to serve with lunch.
Nice going major US exporter. US workmanship under Obama. How embarrassing for the States.
Yeah, as if anyone in Washington has the brains to be involved in designing an airplane.
why don't you do spew your bs on one of the gun nut forums?
Only connection the Federal government has to this is the FAA dumkaupf / troll!
that happens for using non americans to build this plane. instead of trying to save money using people out of the US, now it will be more expensive to fix these problems for using out of country parts and labor. sometimes the cheap way is not the best way, and boeing is finding out this the hard way. please, start using all american parts and labor to build this plane!
Do some research on why this happened - you don't know what you're talking about.
elk, yes, it was. cheap circuitry and mixed and matched non-brand parts from mexico, Swaziland, and China. enough is enough and production needs to come back to the U.S.
Patrick needs to be deported to Swaziland and dropped off at a plantation, so the Black Mamba's could have a field day.
Isn't funny how Republicans are the first to make fun of products and jobs in America . . . they rather this plane be designed and built in China so they can blame Obama . . . then continue contributing nothing of value to America. Hows your overseas investments going? Avoiding taxes again this year? LOL
Losers!
Your irrelevancy continues . . . 47% in 2012 . . . how about 45% in 2016. LOL
BTW: the next 4 years hasn't started yet. You enjoy yourselves. LOL
愚蠢的共和黨人我們外包所有美國人工作。我們做每月一百元。飛機從天上下降。
I believe if you Google it, you'll find that someone that worked extensively on this airplane was fired by Boeing for consistently stating that this plane was not safe. Guess he was right.
these are the Beta versions prone to bug issues , all passengers should email any crashes or fires to Boing to help them debug
People still fly?? Why?
No one is sticking their hand in my crotch without a warrant, period. Or taking an xray or scan or whatever.. I would rather walk than give up my privacy and personal freedom. And my entire family feels the same way. I have a big family.
Probably something to do with that whole 20 hour drive vs. 2-and-a-half hour flight thing.
Yeah me neither lately, but I'm working on it.
Heaven forbid that one of these planes crash with 20 or more children and 7 or more adults on board killing all. Obamy will "Exectutive Order" Boeing to cease production of the 787 and will attempt to outlaw, lithium batteries, and composite structures. We must stop this horrorfying airplane from killing innocent people.
I can see why you are former - you're really, really STUPID!
I'm actually not for increased gun control but I think in a pure logic sense one minor flaw in your analogy is that planes and batteries actually have uses other than to kill people.
And this might come as news but we have actually banned planes, etc. that we found to have a tendency to kill people.
planes are not powered on lithium batteries. You need something much, much more durable and with increased thermal resistance and electrical potential.
ELK 767, That really, really HURT my feelings.
+1 Elk 767.
Former, somehow I doubt that :) - don't mix politics into a techie thread and I'll play nice...
and BTW, I'm an airplane interiors engineer, so I have some credentials here.
and Gene...thank you for your support. :)
Patrick93troll, just one more time to address your ignorance...which could easily be resolved by actually reading about this event. The lithium batteries are used to power up the APU - Auxiliary Power Unit (the small jet turbine engine in the tail cone), which supplies the power to start the big engines hanging on the wings. A bit of google research and a whole lotta reading might get you up to speed here, if your pea brain can handle it.
lithium polymer batteries are not lithium batteries. Some engineer you are. Lithium doesn't have half the electrical potential. Lithium polymers are nuclearly unstable. There exist better solutions, if slightly more expensive.
ELK, Why are you so abusive here? STUPID, Pea Brain? Has anyone on here called you names? I haven't seen any. Or do you do that just because you are an engineer, and obviously educated beyond your intelligence. I am glad your expertise is in aircraft interiors. I too have credentials here as an FAA Certificated Airframe and Powerplant Mechanic since 1981. Graduated from Colorado Aero Tech and have worked for every major aircraft company in the US except Boeing. I know all about APU's, feedback tranducers, Battery control units, APU control units and a million other things. Don't let the book cover mislead you as to the contents of the book.
Former because all the Illegals walked right past his Barnie Fife post. Idiot Much?
If you paided one ounce of attention and read beforing speaking like a droning idiot.
You would know that PATRICK IS A TROLL.
Plus, Romney lost, get over yourself!
Fubarak banned for death wishing the POTUS.
More like a Nightmareliner 787. Well, Boeing (and other corporations), that is what happens when you outsource, you greedy people!
And the bloody crap that the offshore developers our company has develops ABSOLUTE AND UTTER JUNK that we end up rewriting and fixing! A feature release to a product is more like a new set of bugs release! Sigh!