"Hold the pickles hold the lettuce, whip marked burgers don't upset us."

"You can have it your neigh."

Can't understand why meat eaters are so picky. Corpse is corpse.

They just wanted to be sure the people were getting a stable diet.

Alan Reilly, the FSAI’s chief executive, said in a statement “there is no clear explanation at this time for the presence of horse DNA in products emanating from meat plants that do not use horse meat in their production process.”

Sounds to me that there are many farms who sell meat to the suppliers and they sneak horse and pig in there unannounced to them.

A horse dies on their farm and there's 800lbs, or a pig dies and there's 300lbs more they get paid for if processed right there, mix it in with real beef, "then" send it to the suppliers that supply this company with meat for their burgers.

They say there's no clear explanation yet, I'm an ordinary "Joe" with a simple possibility. Hmmmmm..

Can't understand why meat eaters are so picky. Corpse is corpse.

Vegetarian, are we? Well, let me throw in some shredded meat disguised as a vegetable into your next salad and tell you after you've already eaten it. Let's see how worked up you would be.

I would understand the outburst and anger if these animals were endangered, rare, or carry horrible diseases. We grow animals to kill them and eat them all around the world. So why is it so horrible to eat one animal but not another. This philosophy is really very stupid to me.

let me throw in some shredded meat disguised as a vegetable

You don't see many vegetables, do you?

east coast

let me throw in some shredded meat disguised as a vegetable

You don't see many vegetables, do you?

You see vegetables dressed up to look like meat all the time (Bocaburger anyone?), but I have yet to have someone put a steak in front of me that looks like a rutabaga. Personally, I see no need to let perfectly good cuspids go to waste.

I read the Virgo's post as a song. "A corpse is a corpse of course of course......."

Blake, how would you like to receive a toaster when what you wanted was a fireplace, after all they both burn stuff.

It's called getting what you paid for, not a hard concept to grasp.

Sirlafalot

I read the Virgo's post as a song. "A corpse is a corpse of course of course......."

"...unless the corpse is a horse, of course..."

Sirlafalot

I read the Virgo's post as a song. "A corpse is a corpse of course of course......."

Speaking of songs, I wonder how Virgo feels about "A white sport coat, and a pink crustacean......"

"Our customers have the right to expect that food they buy is produced to the highest standards."

Damn right but........ Customers should have the expectation that what a vendor sells is what he claims it is but in the modern world this expectation means nothing to the people producing the product. Quality control is not much more than a book keeping system used to limit liability by the manufacturer. Same goes in this country. I wouldn't believe it myself if I hadn't observed other questionable practices myself. Some producers have no conscience what so ever, especially when it comes to their bottom line and profits.

I think that would behoove Virgo nicely.

Horse steaks are HUGE!

maddog-752810

" Some producers have no conscience what so ever, especially when it comes to their bottom line and profits.

Let's not to forget to place some of that blame on the consumer who demands the cheapest possible price on everything. The idea that all of these producers are trying to make an extra buck is usually false, they are ususally trying to mark down their products as low as possible so their products will be the first off the shelves.

People who demand low prices but then complain when the product is not of the highest quality are morons.

Virgo is correct; meat is meat...and I do LOVE meat!

From the land that eats sheep stomach.

Eating horse meat is just wrong. I was raised on a farm and my Grandpaand family respected all of our animals but mainily our horses. These animals were a part of the makeup of the farm, pulling the wagons, plowing the land( yes my grandpa used the horses to plow the land) the horses took the children on endless joyful trail rides, we were in rodeos , they were our friends and companions. They worked and rounded up the cattle that the family raised for sale and yes fed the family. But all the animals that were used for food consumption were treated humanely and treated with kindness. When the horses passed away they were buried in the back of the farm and were grieved for them. God even tells us in the Bible that we are to eat only certain kinds of animals may be eaten.

horses do not have split hooves!

AL-1735815

From the land that eats sheep stomach.

You're being unfair. Haggis is the original "hot pocket". Basically, its just a large sausage.

Victoria-

Christians do not abide by the dietary restrictions in the Old Testament and not everybody is Christian, Jewish or Muslim anyway ( myself included)

I have no opinion about horse meat not having ever had it, but morally, I see little difference from eating any other creature other creature we normally eat.

So Victoria

Nevertheless, these shall ye not eat, of them that chew the cud or of them
that divide the cloven hoof; as the camel and the hare, and the coney; for they
chew the cud,

you don't eat beef, since they "chew the cud" too. But it's ok to use their by products for your luxuries, makeup, hides, adhesives, lubricates, candles and the list goes on and on.

Hal - your post hit first.

I prefer deer meat to beef.

sounds like the work of the Chick-fil-a cows, tricky bastards

Virgo is right! If you eat cow- why do you feel it wrong to eat horse?

However I do agree that if you are specifically buying BEEF - horse should not be added in secret. I just don't think you should be appalled at the thought of eating horse if you already eat cow.

No - I do not eat beef and I honestly try to be careful about where my luxuries do come from. My family as been organic for a ong time and we research where our food and other irtems come from. I am fortunate to have organic and holistic markets around me and buy organic 99% of the time. And we grew up on deer meat and fresh fish, farm raised chicken and we had our own garden. Now my aunt has 180 acre organic farm and her cattle are al grass fed. The supermarkets that buy their beef are Krogers and HEB here in Texas. I have horses and consider them family. If someone does choose to eat horsemeat then consider watching Food Nation ,Earthling - is a powerful and informative documentary about society’s treatment of animals, narrated by JoaquinPhoenix with soundtrack by Moby. This multi-award winning film by Nation Earth is a must-see for anyone who cares about animals or wishes to make the
world a better place.

Meet Your Meat

Dealing Dogs

Peaceable Kingdom

A Cow At My Table

45 Days: The Life and Death of a Broiler
Chicken

However I do agree that if you are specifically buying BEEF - horse should not be added in secret. I just don't think you should be appalled at the thought of eating horse if you already eat cow.

Are you the one that Pink Floyd sings about? You tell us how to think. Everything should conform to your rationale. We must eat our dog and like it. Yes please another helping of cat.

Well I would bet most of you would be surprised to find out that gelatin/jello is made by using the bones, skin, hoof and any connective tissue from cows, horses and what ever. They are left to stew for many days then ground up. So if any of you non cow/horse eating folks eat anything using gelatin this also includes jams, perserves, jelly, make up and thousands of other products then quess what you eat or use cow/horse

Victoria,

According to Leviticus then, it is ok to eat horse. They do not chew cud nor do they have a cloven (split) hoof.

No fishman, we would not be surprised. One variety of gelatin even has a cow in the front of the package.

I think this is the funniest thread of comments I have ever read. Thanks for the laughs guys. xDDDDD

What you will or won't eat isn't the only big question here. Honesty is. A plant that will lie about content seems more likely to be dishonest period. More willing to skip health codes and safety issues.

On further test we also concluded that the main component of burgers in Britain is rat meat flavored with Grey Poop-on. From chef Ramsey to you, we would like to wish you Bon appetite>= )

Since Congress approved the selling of American wild horses to slaughterhouses in Canada and Mexico last summer, thousands of the wild ones have been rounded up, shoved into trucks and railroad cars and shipped to their deaths. Its very possible that the pal of the BLM director, whose good friend got to buy the horses for $10 each (the American public who want to adopt a wild horse have to pay $150 each). Within the first 2 weeks he had bought and shipped over 1170 wild horses to slaughter in Mexico, and received well over $300 per horse. It's very possible that some of that horse meat was courtesy of a US government offical scratching his buddy's back. Our public officals doing business as usual.

As many have said - if something is sold as beef, it should be 100% beef - and if there's ANY KIND of filler, whether that be another meat...or frankenfood stuff that's pretending to be meat when it is not even remotely, it should be labelled.

People should have a right to know EXACTLY what they are eating.

That said - it's personal and cultural as to what kinds of meat you find acceptable to eat.

I would never in a million years WILLINGLY AND KNOWINGLY eat cat meat (unless a gun was pointed to my head and I would for surely die if I did not eat it as told)...yet, much of asia does eat cat meat.

like bunnies, they just muliple so quickly I can understand how it's seen as steady source of food.

but when you've owned cats as pets, you realize - that like dogs - they are highly intelligent, and it sees akin to eating a human.

In this way, I can see how people would feel the same way about horses - as they are often owned as pets.

Cows, how often do people have them as pets?

And that is where the lines logically end up drawn.

To act like you "dont understand" how people are ok with cow meat but not horse meat says nothing about them, and everything about your ability to do a little heavy thinking on a subject.

Victoria, you don't eat meat, but have no problem selling animals for meat....

Now my aunt has 180 acre organic farm and her cattle are al grass fed. The supermarkets that buy their beef are Krogers and HEB here in Texas

Can we say "Hypocrite"

Yum, this was the tastiest burger I had in a while. Horse, you say, eh. Nothing wrong with that at all. Liked it!

For those that object to a little porker in their burger - well, tough, who cares?

doing WW 2 , i was very young, we were stationed at a interment camp in the Mojave desert area; my step-dad was the xo ,once a week we would get a meat ration, mother told me years later it was horse meat, i remember it was always a roast or ground meat meal; the internees did not eat so good; we were thankful for the food rations; i remember my tooth paste, it was in a lead tube, ,could not get another tube unless you had the old one to trade in, once a month we would all get dusted with DDT, for any bugs, they used a push type fly sprayer to douce us down; it is a wonder i have lived so long.

Hi Saxon,

I did not know that, I am doing my homework, I am sorry for what you and your family experienced, the world is a much nastier place than I thought. I am a quarter Jewish and my family was mostly slaughtered, but I see that the Germans were manipulated by big foreign powers, did you know that Mussolini was a British agent ? So I would not be surprised if Hitler was too.

I would be thinking about Trigger and Mr. Ed the whole time I was eating. No thank you.

saxon,

"doing WW 2 , i was very young, we were stationed at a interment camp in the Mojave desert area"

Was that an internment camp for Japanese-Americans?

Mickey; I think it was, we lived outside the enclosure, i do not remember every going into the camp, hot as hell doing the day, cold as ice at night.

I understand that horse is an acceptable meat in many parts of Europe. However, when I buy a product at a grocery I am entitled to get the product I'm buying and not another. If horse meat is banned from sale in the UK I should not have to worry that the meat I've just purchased contains horse. This is just the suppliers trying to make a buck by putting cheaper meat into what is being sold as ground beef. I'm sure though that the governing powers in the UK will follow the same track as here in the US and protect the suppliers from any charges brought against them by the public.

victoria says:

"the cattle that the family raised for sale and yes fed the family"

then:

"I do not eat beef"

and:

"we grew up on deer meat and fresh fish, farm raised chicken and we had our own garden"

but:

"my aunt has 180 acre organic farm and her cattle are al grass fed"

Get your story right first, BEFORE posting it on the internet for 2 billion people to see.

Looks like some of your family eat, or ate, one way, while others eat, or ate, another way. Which group are, or were, the sinners you rant about in scripture?

If you or yours don't eat beef, but once did, why would you now go through all the work in raising 180 acres of beef which will eventually be in a hamburger, hot-dog, taco, fajita, or summer sausage?

Geesh, never saw so many different stories in only 2 posts.

saxon,

"I think it was, we lived outside the enclosure, i do not remember every going into the camp, hot as hell doing the day, cold as ice at night."

I figured that must have been what it was because Japanese-Americans are about the only ones I know of who we sent to internment camps during WWII. I think that was one of the more shameful periods in our history. They were American citizens, after all. Was it really necessary?

Actually Mickey I just found out that Germans were also interned, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American_internment

Johny Pinetree,

"Actually Mickey I just found out that Germans were also interned"

Thanks for the link. I did not know that, but I can kind of understand it. There were many German Americans who were Nazi sympathizers during WWII. See the German-American Bund. If I had lived then, I might have been interned, too, since I am German on my fathers side of the family.

Hitler was a nobody or a madman till big finance was behind him, financiers always get off the hook. Same with Mussolini, Bush and Obama, its the same show, sadly most people still will not believe it ! War for money, money for war, our species is in trouble. People are very gullible, and volunteer to die and sacrifice their loved children for lies ! Mercedes, BMW, etc never get tried because they serve the interest of big finance. Hitler was financed from the States, to destroy any possible competition to Anglo American world dominance, and to stop the other "monster" they created, Stalin.

They wanted to destroy Germany and any potential that Germany had, thus they came up with Hitler, its amazing what money can do! Controlled opposition, so that there will never be true opposition, all ancient tactics from the times of ancient Greece and Rome.

@Victoria

Good for your aunt! I also have a large organic farm(nearly 1000 acres). Let me be perfectly clear... Krogers will NOT buy from me because it will upset their profit margin. They claim that the mark-up required to maintain their current profit margin would put the items at an unreasonable cost to the consumer. I find that amazing since I offered them wholesale pricing at 50% of my retail price. I have several hundred regular retail customers that pay me full price directly from my farm. what gives?

Be wary of everything you buy in the store. It is not always as it seems.

Support your local farmer/produce stand.

So why is it so horrible to eat one animal but not another. This philosophy is really very stupid to me.

Difference here is it is advertised as beef and contains almost a third horsemeat! The argument about whether horsemeat is something good to eat is a different story. In some place animals we see as pets are on the dinner menu right along.

Virgo47

Can't understand why meat eaters are so picky. Corpse is corpse.

Have you work a farm lately? When you taste your veggies you are still eating animal through @!$%# and urine and on top of that radiation also that is used to kill the e-coli...:P

Is that Big Kahuna Burger? I heard its a very tasty burger.

Especially with a tasty beverage to wash it all down. Perfect meal to get you in the mood to shoot somebody.

"In Ireland, it is not in our culture to eat horse meat and therefore, we do not expect to find it in a burger," he noted.

Oh, yeah their culture is about starving without potatoes and dying of cirrhosis of the liver because of their large consumption of whiskey, but they can't eat horse meat, give me a break.

"Let's not to forget to place some of that blame on the consumer who demands the cheapest possible price on everything"... really? Because people shop for the best price then it's okay to put bugs, fillers and God knows what into the meat? You're sick! No matter the price people have a right to know what they are ingesting. NO SMALL PRINT! You know... I would really like to try horse meat... but I want to know it's horse meat.

That is so much nonsense. It is what we are accustomed to. Any animal can be food.

So far I have eaten, beef, pork, chicken, quail, pheasant, duck, goose, antelope, moose, deer, bear, monkey, dog and several insects (not crazy about the insects)and raccoon. Every one was tasty. I have yet to have horse but it is just another meat.

Oops, I forgot mutton and goat (cabrito).

NC, you should try some seafood. Turkey is really good too. Be careful with raccoon because most carry rabies in some form. I've eaten squirrel so I'm one to talk.

Patrick,

I did not mention seafood but have had all kinds of fish and shellfish, Also, octopus and squid.

When cooked, any disease such as rabies of this type is gone. We would not eat any animal that appeared to be sick anyway.

I also forgot to mention squirrel and rabbit. I love fried rabbit. I hate to clean squirrels.

I would bet you left off snake and frog too. And you most likely eaten cat even if you don'y know it. Here is another one, ostrich. Come to think of it. I don't think I have eaten horse either.

NC,

"So far I have eaten, beef, pork, chicken, quail, pheasant, duck, goose, antelope, moose, deer, bear, monkey, dog and several insects (not crazy about the insects)and raccoon. Every one was tasty. I have yet to have horse but it is just another meat."

"Omnivorous" is the word to describe you. You are an omnivore. Just stay away from me. I wouldn't care to have you sink your teeth into my flesh. :)

I've eaten unknown meat on stick street food in several third world countries so I've probably eaten horse. Never been sick from any of it.

Meat on a stick is almost always dog. If it is a weird color then cat.

Ate horse meat many times while stationed in Europe in the 70's . Actually it tastes really good, and if you had it and a nice beef steak side by side and did a taste test you might pick the horse over the beef way more often than you might realize. once it is dead, it really doesn't matter as long as you cook it nice.........

Some parts of our country are overrun with wild horses but the horse-freaks have passed laws that won't allow them to be exported anywhere that may slaughter them for food. The horse-freaks would rather see them starve in the wild than have them used as food. People have some messed up priorities.

As I understand it is a lean and healthy meat, I'd eat it but of course there aren't many things that I wouldn't.

25,000 horses spread over 5 states is not 'overrun'. The more than 1 million head of cattle allowed to graze on public land, however, is a huge problem which destroys the landscape. Horses are selective eaters, cows will mow down anything. I love horses, but am practical about the situations. I don't eat horse or cows, but be real...cattle are the problem, not the horses.

@rationaloutlook

25,000 horses spread over 5 states is not 'overrun'.

I agree. BUT A- that number ONLY counts the population on PUBLIC rangelands and does not take into consideration the 50,000 horses cared for on private land at BLM expense and B- that number is only mantained because the BLM removes the extra horses.

We aren't spending 75 million dollars a year doing nothing you know.

rational,

Cattle do not destroy grazing land. Sheep and goats do.

If a person can 'eat pusee", they can eat horse meat. And it IS WAY HEALTHIER, and actually tastes better..........

A billion tons would be nice.

It mostly went to Jewish stores where they now eat non kosher food. Muslim still eat only Kosher food so there is no chance. They do their own processing.

although i agree that we should know what we are eating, why do people think one animal is different than another, as humans we rape all kinds of things...the ocean, the air we breath, rain forests, each other... we kill lots of things, so why are horses so awesome that we cant kill them

All of it. Ha ha lol

And what exactly might be wrong with eating horse meat? (Except that people should know it's horse meat.) How is a cow any less of a creature than a horse? I call it animal discrimination.

@ AB-1981 .... Cows..chickens....pigs...etc are specifically bread for consumption. These horses (in most cases) belonged to a family at some point. Then they are discarded ....for financial reasons or they outlived their usefulness or what have you. Sometime that little girls pony that she is no longer interested in ends up ...strung up by its back hooves on a hook gutted.... alive. Do I need to be more graphic for you ? It is not the same idiot ....If you haven't seen it .....then STFU .

While I agree with your sentiment PValdes, there was never a ban on slaughter. It was simply moved out of the US to Mexico and Canada. There was no regulation there, and abuse was rampant. Bringing it back to America means more regulation, that's all. The amount of slaughter remains the same. We need to stop slaughter all together. There is no need to slaughter horse for food.

My wife and I saved a couple of horses from slaughter by adopting them. But unfortunately too many people see profit in selling them to slaughter houses.

Well, they still peel off the skin in almost one big piece, just like cows. They use a hydraulic bolt to the skull, just like cows. After they shovel up the gut pile, they send it off to be processed into many things, a number of which are eaten by humans, and some of which goes into animal feed, just like cows. Nothing is wasted, and when it is down to just the bones, they send it to the glue factories. I wonder what it tastes like? Grilled, and appropriately seasoned and sauced, I would bet it is pretty tasty. Perhaps a horse shank, braised in red wine and aromatic vegetables, would create a very nice dish when served over a freshly made polenta or risotto.

PValdes

Well at least the horse can be eaten when the "family" discard them, cats and dogs... well... not very popular in western society.

And peoples have pigs as pets also, so get off your high horse and assume that you're disgusted by all this simply because you find them cute. But horse meat is still meat.

And calling other idiots and telling them to STFU just show how immature you are.

It's a discussion forum, if you are not willing to logically defend your opinion then you should abstain from commenting.

Mmmhmm This is a tasty burger

Jo- ....whatever ....My opinion is that it is unacceptable.....and If someone wants to argue the point .....Then my opinion is that the are just STUPID. The answer is to regulate the breeding of these animals due to there being so many unwanted or discarded. I have seen too many mares ....together with their babies die horrible deaths needlessly. Calling out to one another in vain. Sorry ...but this subject is very near and dear to my heart...and seeing people joke about it does not restore my faith in human beings.

I do eat meat, but consider horses absolutely off limits for consumption! Hypocrite? Perhaps. Cows, chickens, pigs are all bred and slaughtered for human consumption. However, each time I pass a hog truck or a chicken truck, on their way to the "processing plant", I feel so very guilty. I have never seen truck with horses that I thought was going to a slaughterhouse (that I know of anyway) but I would be completely heartbroken!

PValdes... well said.

My opinion is that it is unacceptable.....and If someone wants to argue the point .....Then my opinion is that the are just STUPID

LOL.. Now THAT is funny.

While I may agree that the callous discarding of domesticated animals, pets, etc is heartbreaking. MANY horses are raised for slaughter, much as cows, pig and the like...

Quick question...Do you have dogs??? If so, better check out what you are feeding them ;-)

Native.....I do have dogs ...cats.....and dare I say it ....horses. We are VERY VERY careful about ingredients and fillers......Thanks for asking.

I hear you, PValdes. I have never once regretted my decision to become a vegetarian 25 years ago.

The difference between horses and cows is that horses aren't typically bread specifically for meat, while cows often are. And so the thought of eating horses outrages people (but I do agree that killing animals just because we bread too many of them/they're not useful is heartbreaking). If we were to bread horses for meat, I really don't see a difference between them and cows. I do agree that people have the right to know what they are eating (and to not eat things unknowingly that they are opposed to), which makes what happened in the article unacceptable.

Valdes/Alright,

Simmer down. Horses are also raised for meat in different places.

Normally, people do not ride horses meant for slaughter.

What they are bred for is irrelevant unless you are eating horse bred to be riding animals.

Yes, I do think that we should know what we are being served and nothing different should be substituted without our consent but it is not "wrong" to eat horse.

oops kept using bread instead of bred. my bad.

NC-my point was not that I think it's wrong to eat horses-it's because they aren't universally bred for meat that gets some people (not myself) upset.

"Jo- ....whatever ....My opinion is that it is unacceptable.....and If someone wants to argue the point .....Then my opinion is that the are just STUPID."

That is the answer I would expect from a kid, just like calling others idiots and telling them to STFU.

Obviously you are not capable of defending your position logically other than "I feel it's wrong".

PValdes

Jo- ....whatever ....My opinion is that it is unacceptable.....and If someone wants to argue the point .....Then my opinion is that the are just STUPID

I'll give you credit for admitting that you are incapable of seeing anything outside of your narrow little world even though it shows that your opinions are utterly worthless.

I also notice that you've offered no realistic solutions to the problem you're bitching about. Which also makes your opinions utterly worthless. Regulate breeding? How's that supposed to work? And how do you regulated the breeding of wild horses that are over populating their range-lands?

It's bred people... bred. Bread is the fluffy white stuff you put horse burger into. Drawing some imaginary lines in your mind about which animals can be eaten and which shouldn't is stupid. I respect vegetarians more than hypocrites who try to pretend nobility by eating cows and not horses.

Alright,

Ok, I see what you were saying. Agree.

Interesting...so you are an animal lover but eat meat and complain about one specific animal being slaughtered for food? Then when people decide to find humor in a horrible story instead of becoming depressed over something they can't control you resort to name calling? I mean, I get it - I don't want to eat horse meat...and I would hope I would never be deceived into eating something that I think is a cow only to find out I am chomping down on Mr. Ed after however, who are you or I to judge others based on what they like? Just because you think its not the right thing to do doesn't mean someone who is unbiased is "stupid" as you eloquently put it.

Also, this is the Internet - and in case you hadn't noticed people can pretty much say whatever they want with little or no repercussions. if you don't care for what they think do you really think they care what you think? lol, no one's comment really matters. Just laugh a little!

PValdes, you're mixing the type of animal that is killed with the method in which it is killed. The latter is an independent concern and should not be introduced into a debate of the type of animal that is killed. Your logic would require that there is no better way to slaughter a horse, but this requirement is not true.

Sheldon-I noticed that in my own post (hence the follow-up 9.14) but was sadly too slow to correct it before my editing window was over. It was almost lunchtime, so perhaps I was hungry and looking forward to eating my sandwich haha? Though I can't pretend to speak for anyone else who made the same mistake.

I also got a kick out of "if you don't agree with me, you're stupid." So basically only people who agree with you 100% of the time should be allowed to post? There isn't always one right answer-there's a lot of moral gray area in regards to a lot of different issues-and I would argue that there is seldom only one, absolute correct way to do things. Debate is good-it allows us to examine our own position, and if new facts are presented, re-evaluate if necessary (though that doesn't seem to happen too much on these boards-mostly just metaphorically bashing each other over the head).

Contrary to many poster's opinions here, horses are raised and bred specifically for slaughter right here in many places of South America, not to refer to Asia and many other countries. People don't try to cheat or confuse customers blending their meat with beef.

To PValdes, I don't joke about it and I'm sorry for the slaughter of animals for human consumption, period.

I was raised around horses and keep many pictures of them as members of our family. One of them in particular, followed me everywhere as a child, and was allowed inside our farm house as a family member. Not to say that I was certain she would've given her life gladly for mine. I love horses and do know that getting to know them is as getting to know a true friend.

Shenandoah,

You were good until your last sentence. What was it supposed to mean?

And no one can talk to a horse of course.

Rick

The problem is that most of us here are getting tired of posting about children getting murdered, politicans lying, economy falling, taxes rising, and banning or non-banning of assault weapons. So there for, we make an attempt on a lesser note to put a smile on someone's face. But thank you for passing judgement.

Yeah and without my assault weapon how am I going to mow down all those horses. Foal the life of me I will have to cycle the bolt for every shot. I used to eat horse meat all the time then Pedigree took it off the market, well atleast they stopped prinnting it on the label anyway

There are no Irish restaurants in America?? I'm in Manhattan and there are 6 within 2 blocks of my office. I'm headed to PJ Moran's as we speak for a pint or 2 of stout and te best fish & chips in NYC Maybe the secret to their superb burgers is a but if horsemeat

Those are pubs with bar food, which is the same world wide. Did you know that Corned beef and Cabbage doesn't exist in Ireland? It's a New York invention. They never heard of corned beef.

Yeah Dan just like the cows here in the US. You would be surprised what is pumped into them and what diseases they have. The cows are covered in manure, many can bearly stand and some could not stand at all (known as a downer cow). They would then slam into them with fork trucks or tractors to get them to stand for the few minutes they needed to shoot the bolt into their head.

Trust me I love beef but I would not want to be eating a downer cow if I had the choice. I buy most of my meat from my local butcher who I know, I also know where his meat comes from(where it was raised)

What doesn't China eat? You do know China makes our processed food for us? Go to jiesworld.com, look at the link titled US Corporations in China. The list gives manufacturers that rely on China to make all or part of the foods they sell in the US, for a country that sent us defective tires and toxic drywall...I can only imagine what they put in our food we are not aware of.