THe movie THe BAtttle for ALgiers was excelllent - made in the early 1960s but relevant to what is going on and has gone on the past 10 years.

It sounds like the Algerian military deliberately attacked vehicles carrying hostages. If this is true, then their actions are inexcusable. Of course the ultimate responsibility for any deaths falls on the terrorists, but it sounds like the Algerian military leaders in charge of the situation on the ground are completely inept and showed absolutely no regard for the safety of the hostages. The Algerian government has always taken a strong stance against any negotiation with terrorists and it appears that they care more about killing the terrorists than they do with getting hostages out alive. I realize that the information we have is not complete, but if the account this article is giving from Brian McFaul is correct then the Algerian military leaders have demonstrated extremely poor judgement in dealing with the situation. Deliberately firing on vehicles known to be carrying hostages is inexcusable.

What a mess this seems to be

What? Susan Rice isn't going to come out with some video story?

I love me some crazy!

I will wait for some confirmed information before passing judgement on Algerian military.

Wherever there is war, innocent people die a lot. How many Iraqi civilians were killed by US military during the 'Shock and Awe' campaigns? Thousands, if not tens of thousands. And we also had a perfectly good excuse for starting that war.

Hummmmmmmmmm ... The Real surprise .... Why didn't they just blow up the plant?

Regardless of what country you come from ... go to unstable dangerous places to make a big buck ... Expect to be in harms way and possibly die for your choice...

It's all about the power of the US protecting corporate interest ( please note BP as a owner) around the world, not the interest of the American people!

Blowing up the plant and making it useless would have been a far more effective tactic then the one they chose ....

@skibum609 the last time i checked the FRENCH led the assault against QADDAFI...and we just backed them up...and no one said we should hold obama to a lesser standard than anyone else but to blame a person for something they have no control over is in itself idiotic...name one thing obama has failed at...you cant

Mike-1817409

Gen.Sherman crushes the south

You guys forgot one thing Obama was also responsible for, he made the call to kill Ben Laden. Not like at Tora Bora

Antistupidity - Obama and US "intelligence" watched OBL for six months to be sure they had their man. OBL never left the compound he was hiding in all that time. He was backed in a corner... Tora Bora has us missing OBL by only a few hours.

It is easy to gloat when you have so much time to make sure you get it right...

Apples and oranges...

The saying used to be "the United States does not negotiate with terrorists". I wonder if this still states our united position?

What a bunch of numptys you folks are. Exactly how would any U.S. Intell/Govt/Military have any advance clue exactly where, in an area nearly the size of half the United States, that an attack was going to happen. Bob James, please send me your paycheck. And while your at it, please take a job overseas in a war zone and get yourself kidnapped. Then, in the video they broadcast of your captivity, show us exactly how much you subscribe to this big brave fantasy of yours. Perhaps you have forgotten how U.S. Commandos rescued a couple hostages in Somalia a few weeks ago.

As for the guy who said. "Other than that, it was a lot of fun". I want to party with that dude!

Hmmmmmmm,

I have a bad feeling about this. We have, allegedly, the most advanced intelligence operation in the world and we still don't have any information about our American citizens.

Fridays are always a bad day for news announcements. Hopefully our people are safe and just need to be rescued.

please enlighten us on how obama has failed at benghazi....i'll wait

Aw jeez, let's not get them started - once they get on that circle jerk, they never get off...

But maybe a better question would be to have them add specifics about how the old man and the twinky would have had any better outcome.

Algerian military leaders in charge of the situation on the ground are completely inept and showed absolutely no regard for the safety of the hostages.

How many civilians were killed so the US could get Saddam? The most conservative estimate (just war deaths) is over 60K the actual death toll resulting indirectly from the war ranges over half a mil. Now who's inept?

Hello folks, here we go again. How many countries do we have to bomb and how many millions of people do we have to kill and displace before enough is enough? In our short history we have bombed well over 65 countries and in our short history we have been at war for 217 of our 236 year history. Here is another case of having to fight Jihadists that we armed in Libya. The US plans to send “Army teams” (troops) to 35 African countries.

RT: US will provide France airlift help, ‘training’ for Mali

operation – reports

Published: 18 January, 2013, 02:07
Edited: 18 January, 2013, 09:29

Washington has agreed to provide France with airlifts to help move troops and equipment in the country’s operation in Mali, an official told Reuters. Meanwhile, a group of US military trainers are expected to arrive in the region by the weekend.

The decision to boost Washington’s contribution to the French-led military operation against Islamist rebels in Mali comes after a formal review of the French request by the Obama administration.

The US Military’s plans include starting US Air Force cargo flights on Friday. C-17 and larger C-5 aircraft will likely be used in the operation. The US could also provide aerial refueling for French aircraft, and deploy surveillance drones.

Chair of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff General Martin Dempsey pointed out that France had not asked for US help in any lethal operations.

In addition to reports that Washington will help French and Malian forces by way of airlift support for getting troops and equipment to the battlefield, CBS News correspondent Margaret Brennan reported that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said that US military trainers “will be on the ground by this weekend.”

The French intervention in Mali “is going to be a long, drawn out war,” UK-based political analyst Dan Glazebrook told RT.

“This is a ground invasion of Africa, and they’re hoping – France, Britain and the US – are hoping to establish a permanent military presence; an occupation of Africa. And this is one way they’re going to be able to do it,” he explained.

Glazebrook said the hostage crisis at an Algerian gas plant which was sparked by France’s intervention in Mali is an intended consequence of France’s ground invasion.

“Spillover is part of the program…the aim of the strategy of intervention in Mali. What happened since the execution of Gaddafi and the destruction of Libya is that the West armed, funded and equipped these death squads effectively in Libya. The flow of weapons and fighters spread then across the region, which was again, playing into the program of the West to destabilize the region, and they ended up in Northern Mali,” Glazebrook argues.

The War On Terror Spreads to Africa: U.S. Sending Troops to 35 African Nations

Posted on January 12, 2013 by WashingtonsBlog

America Sets Its Sights On Controlling African Resources … And Reducing Chinese Influence

The U.S. is sending troops to 35 African nations under the guise of fighting Al Qaeda and related terrorists.

Democracy Now notes:

U.S. Army teams will be deploying to as many as 35 African countries early next year for training programs and other operations as part of an increased Pentagon role in Africa. The move would see small teams of U.S. troops dispatched to countries with groups allegedly linked to al-Qaeda, such as Libya, Sudan, Algeria and Niger. The teams are from a U.S. brigade that has the capability to use drones for military operations in Africa if granted permission. The deployment could also potentially lay the groundwork for future U.S. military intervention in Africa.

moonbeamracer

Hummmmmmmmmm ... The Real surprise .... Why didn't they just blow up the plant?

Maybe they don't want to provoke the Algerian government too much, if I judge by their military operation in this case, it seems they don't care about being politically correct, they just shoot the terrorists and everyone who happens to be around them.

concernedone

Antistupidity - Obama and US "intelligence" watched OBL for six months to be sure they had their man. OBL never left the compound he was hiding in all that time. He was backed in a corner... Tora Bora has us missing OBL by only a few hours.

I can tell recent history is not your strong suit. The Bush admin. ORDERED the US Troops in Tora Bora to STAND DOWN and let the Hired Guns (Locale Tribesmen) do the job. Lets go back a little further, Name the family that sponsored the Bushes in Oil Investments? Times up------ Bin laden !!! Name the family that put up the money for G W Bush to buy into a baseball team? --------Bin laden!!!!!!!!!! Name the family Pappy Bush and G W Bush visited in Saudi Arabia for business? --------- Bin laden!!!!!!!!! Name the ONLY family allowed to fly out of the US on the afternoon of 9/11/01 by Exeuative Order? Bin laden!!!!

Now tell me again, how is that O S Bin laden escaped U S troops in Tora Bora?

cut the blind shiek's tongue out and make the trade...that's a pretty tasteless comment...

@Spense....

Friday's is the M.E. equivilent of our Mondays.. They work on Sunday's too just to screw with the sabbath in Isreal.

@JoAnn-666954 so let me get this strait the ambassador asked for more security but the united stated government didnt provide it...hmmmmmmm the ambassador is in a secure building being the united states embassy and a mob attacked it and killed him and his team...yet obama was on the other side of the ocean...WHAT WAS HE SUPPOSE TO DO BLAST THE ATTACKERS FROM THE DEATH STAR? your neighbors home can be a victim of a home invasion and you can be across the street and cant help, does that mean you wanted it to happen or didnt care...NO...you didnt know it was about to happen even if your neighbors home had been a victim of 4 break ins you couldnt have seen that coming...obama didnt fail the attackers just susceeded

@joethelib

Thanks, I didn't feel like trying to teach those that either can't remember what happened 2 days ago, or those that just cloud their vision and refuse to acknowledge the facts because they don't fit their particular bias.

Jo Ann-666954

please enlighten us on how obama has failed at benghazi....i'll wait

@ Gen. Sherman, what part of the 'US Ambassador pleading to Washington for more help and security way before 9/11' do you not understand?

Dianne Feinstein said that Benghazi was hit four times a few months before 9/11. US Amb. Stevens pleaded to Washington for help. Nothing was done and 9/11/12 happened.

Again, the US Government, the Obama Admin. were all clueless.

Please refresh yourself on who sets the budget for Security for U S Ambassadors. That would be the Republican led House of Representative's. Who CUT the budget for security, the Republican led House of Representative's. Almost every U S Embassy put in requests for MORE security but the RE-deuced budget would not allow it. Benghazi was an "Outpost" not an Embassy.

But joe....Obama has is executive privilege....If it really meant something to him he would have acted on it, right?? Right?? You mean there was a reduced budget?? Where?? I thought people like you claim the republicans spend spend spend?? What happened to "the buck stops here with me"?

One of my favorite quotes from this article is "We don't negotiate with terrorists"...Really..I guess trying to sit down with the Taliban doesn't count?

joethelib - This from a "commander" on the ground in a recent interview (I believe for the show 60 Minutes)... He was in disguise and believed to use the fake name "Fury":

Fury said he had 50 men in Delta force up against bin Laden's 1,000 - support from the Afghan forces was needed.

But, he claimed, many of the Afghan soldiers were not on board - seeing Osama bin Laden as a hero.

"It was almost like it was an agreement, an understanding between the two forces (al Qaeda and the Afghans) fighting each other," he said. "Almost put on a good show and then leave."

One night - alone without his Afghan allies - Fury said he was told bin Laden was a mere two kilometres away.

He had to make a decision - and, faced with overwhelming odds, he elected to stay away.

But the decision always nagged him. He wrote in his book: 'My decision to abort that effort to kill or capture bin Laden when we might have been with 2,000 metres of him, about 2,000 yards, still bothers me.

"It leaves me with a feeling of somehow letting down our nation at a critical time.'

But, he added, it wasn't worth the risk.

Fury had a second chance: Later, a Delta force named Jackal radioed they had bin Laden in sight.

He wrote: "The operation Jackal team observed 50 men moving into a cave that they hadn't seen before.

"The Mujahideen said they saw an individual, a taller fellow, wearing a camouflage jacket. Everybody put two and two together, 'Okay, that's got to be Osama Bin Laden egressing from the battlefield.'

"They called up every available bomb in the air, took control of the airspace. And they dropped several hours of bombs on the cave he went into. We believe, it was our opinion at the time, that he died inside that cave."

Later, however, he was proven wrong, when American forces were unable to find bin Laden's body and the al Qaeda leader began releasing radio and video footage again.

Fury told 60 Minutes believes he knows what happened.

He said bin Laden was wounded in the shoulder by shrapnel from an American bomb, and was then hidden a town next to the al Qaeda cemetery.

"We believe a gentleman brought him in - a gentleman, him and his family were supporting al Qaeda during the battle. They were providing food, ammo, water. We think he went to that house, received medical attention for a few days then, and then we believe they put him in a vehicle moved him back across the pass," he was quoted as saying.

"It’s my understanding they believe he got into a vehicle. He moved as far as he could and then got out and walked across or was carried across into Pakistan. Free and clear," Fury says.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1072109/We-bin-Laden-Tora-Bora---I-aborted-mission-says-elite-Delta-Force-Commander.html#ixzz2IMQEBtGi
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@Rob68 the TALIBAN werent terrorist they were and are a legit political party who jst gave a terrorist a safe haven...kinda like the rebubilican party in this country

BTW joethelib, you may be confusing the "stand down" order with a recent incident in Libya...

Maddieadela

"A question for the Obama haters. Could your little boy Georgie W and his nanny Dickie do any better?"

Could you hold you're boy Obama to the same standards you held GWB or "nanny" to for 8 years? Why does your opinion change just because the current president represents your hypocritical self serving flavor of bias?

"doesn't matter wtf is happening in the world, if the US is involved in any way, shape or form you play the Blame game against our president! Wtf is wrong with you people? Have you gotten so much hate in your heart that you can't possibly use your brain any longer to really comprehend what is going on?":

OHHHH you mean like the libs and progressives who blamed anything and everything on bush, and still do, but they were "right" back then, right? Only we are crazy, not you, for holding Obama to the same standards. WE do comprehend what is happening just fine. Obama is a phucking socialist hypocrite and all of his well hearded sheep are thrilled to death about it.

"the TALIBAN werent terrorist they were and are a legit political party who jst gave a terrorist a safe haven...kinda like the rebubilican party in this country"

Yes clearly it is the republicans saying that christians aren't allowed to have a shred of open opinion in the public but they aren't the least bit worried about the muslim influx and shariah law happenings of dearborne MI. How could we be so blind. Obviously it is the GOP base letting the mexicans cross our border and illegaly use our resources, and the GOP base who sued a state for trying to enforce laws that the feds pretend don't exist.

Terrorism takes many forms. You would know that if you hadn't dumbed yourself down to the level of being a libtard. That in itself is terrorism against one's own best interest.

this is why the orders were given to kill, not capture Bin Laden; think if he were being held, no American traveling the world would be safe from kidnapping , for a exchange.

General Sherman....They aided and helped train Al Qaeda...So yeah...Spin it anyway you want asshat....

What a mess you have made in the middle east

That mess was there long before Obama or Hillary were in office, you small-minded tool.

@DrAlchemy oooooooooo i get it now no illegal has crossed the american boarder when a repub was in office that just struck me, my bad "sarcasism"...miss me with that christian non sense because they are more violent than people who claim their muslim...last time i checked you have the KKK running around saying were pure chritians...you can keep that religion to yourself...yes terrorism comes in many forms no one knows this better than a black man from the south...bombings,hangings,jim crow,doverman pitchers hunting you down,denyied employmen because the color of your skin,man i have that terrorist thing down packed..

@Rob68 like we helped train osama bin laben during the afghan-russian war...or when we trained the british orange brigade to hunt and kill the irish freedom fighters...gotcha now i understand

Jo Ann & Skibum, your hero John McCain called, he says that the Lybian Resistance are still his heroes. Remember that moronic comment?

I am not an Obama supporter but to blame the man for every damn thing that ales the world is starting to get really sickening. Some of you people have no decency what so ever.

Oh, stop blaming Obama for this.

Obama is not to blame for every terrorist attack. Nor should he be made to have some foreknowledge of every attack.

You haters are just crazy.

Uhh..Osama bin laben (sic) wasn't associated with Al Qaeda during the afghan-russian war...Al Qaeda wasn't even around...Really?? the "british orange brigade"? Oh you mean the "Irish Freedom Fighters" that bombed civilians?? Gotcha now I understand...

Bart how do you feel about 9-11??

@Rob68 you mean that bombed an invading force in their country...i guess you dont know much about the BOGSIDE

The trade is a good idea. Give them the Sheik and throw in Obama and a politican to be named later.

It's not that Barry is to blame for anything.... on this issue yet..........

Still waiting for his real response to Benghazi.... but you do have to wonder why every other country involved has made statements EXCEPT ours......

Some leaders, lead........ others organize

@ Gen. Sherman, according to Diane Feinstein, Hillary Clinton and many others, yes, a lot more could have been done even from across the pond. For months no one did anything and four Americans were sitting ducks and experienced awful deaths. I'm sorry that you are so blind that you cannot accept the facts.

@ Chuckster, the President of the US will always get blamed for everything, even Obama will agree because he said it during his 2008 campaign. According to him the buck stops at the White House. Of course he said this when he was blaming Bush for everything.

Things are different now that he is the one in office. He blames everyone else.

Good lord General....Yes yes..Bogsiders...Start of "the troubles"....1969.......RUC couldn't control it...British Army called in....That was an internal NI fight.....And nowhere does it say that the US aided the "orange brigade"....Not sure where you got THAT little nickname...The NI government REQUESTED the British Army's help...It really was the precursor to the whole IRA/British fight....

So yeah...Nice try in attempting to equate them with terrorists...Maybe if you read up on it you'd see how the Ulster Volunteer Forces and Ulster Protestant Volunteers wrecked havoc on the people of NI....

Thanks for playing....you lose....again....

I recall Romney bringing up Algeria in the debates and all the libs and the press slammed him for it, saying he was out of touch and that the terrorist there are not a threat. So if Romney had this info wouldnt Obama have the same info since he is the president?

Other reports state one American dead. Yet our President says the terrorists are on the run. First counter point, four murdered in Libya and swept under the rug (politically inconvenient truth). Now this. I'd say terrorists are not running but attacking - I don't care what Obama wishing me to think, the facts say otherwise...

Tora Bora has us missing OBL by only a few hours.

Actually, Concernedone, we had the opportunity to get Bin Laden in Tora Bora before he could escape from but blew it. The CIA field agent in Afghanistan, Gary Berntsen, had Bin Laden's location pinpointed and asked for additional troops from the 10th Mountain Division to block all the available escape routes, but Bush said no and ordered the army to attack without reinforcements, thus allowing Bin Laden an opportunity to escape and prolong the war.

Wow...They went all the way to the White House for troop requests...I mean they bypassed the Commanders on the ground and of the Region just to go ask Bush....So then how does the request for reinforcements in (lord I hate beating a dead horse) Benghazi fall on someone else other than the President??

Second killing of americans in the mideast - and where's the president?

This story did not even make online headlines, but was further down- next to "what will Mrs Obama be wearing" and " president gets new portrait".

Had algeria had waited we could have sent Seals in and there'd been no dead Americans, only dead terrorists.

Rob68

Please consult a dictionary, "Terrorists" A person or group that use terror to frighten others.

By definition the I R A and any group that creates fear is a Terrorists person or group.

concerned Thanks for making my point. Bush admin. did not want Bin laden caught or killed. That's why NO air strike or fast response team was called in. It was well known that Afghans were aliened with Bin laden. How would it look if G W Bush killed the son of the man that loaned him the money to buy an oil company and a baseball team?

And STILL no response from Barry....... but we got a nice new picture of him for the wall.

Hey Steve, do you really want the President to comment on the situation while Americans are still being held hostage? If you were a hostage, would you want him to endanger your life in that way? Really? Just to satisfy the need of folks like you to have something to criticize?

From Fox news:

Officials told the Associated Press the deceased American is Texas resident, Frederick Buttaccio

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/01/18/american-still-missing-as-us-plane-lands-in-algeria-to-aid-in-evacuation/#ixzz2IN7ZH1kA

Hilary doesn't want to say it.

Mr. Buffaccio lived in the Houston area. RIP sir.

1 American killed, 2 escape in Algeria hostage crisis, US officials say; militants offer to trade 2 others for blind sheik

Another foreign policy failure for the Barrack Hussein administration.

Didn't Mitt Romney warn us of this happening during the debates? It's a shame Barrack Hussein is preoccupied with himself and all his nonsense issues like gun control instead of protecting Americans.

This presidency is the worst in our history.

Fools wanted this buffoon and now more Americans die because of it.

maggieadela

A question for the Obama haters. Could your little boy Georgie W and his nanny Dickie do any better?

I don't hate Obama I hope he lives a long life and in his last days, I hope he suffers all the pain that these Americans felt in their last minutes of their life's in Algeria and Benghazi. Bush would have stood in front of the American people and told the truth. Obama won't even stand in front of the American people and tell a lie let alone tell that truth (because he has no will to tell the truth) what happen in Benghazi

Gen.Sherman crushes the south. Caligula was not a king, Rome didn't have kings, they had emperors you idiot. Also, Caligula was one of the worst Roman Emperors ever, He was brutal, arrogant, selfish and never willing to compromise. There are few surviving sources on Caligula's reign, although he is described as a noble and moderate ruler during the first two years of his rule. After this, the sources focus upon his cruelty, extravagance, and sexual perversity, presenting him as an insane tyrant! And, by the way, he was the FIRST Roman Emperor to be assasinated! Except for the sexual perversian part, (as far as I know), and being assasinated, he sounds a whole lot like OBAMA to me. Did I say you were an idiot before? Well, it does fit well, somebody who stated that Caligula was their favorite "king" leads directly to being an OBAMA backer.

I love it. Keep going Rob. General looks dumber every answer he posts!!!

Gen.Sherman crushes the south. Another of your previous posts that shows just how stupid you are:

"@DrAlchemy oooooooooo i get it now no illegal has crossed the american boarder (border) when a repub was in office that just struck me, my bad "sarcasism" (sarcasm)...miss me with that christian non sense (nonsense) because they are more violent than people who claim their muslim...last time i checked you have the KKK running around saying were pure chritians...you can keep that religion to yourself...yes terrorism comes in many forms no one knows this better than a black man from the south...bombings,hangings,jim crow,doverman pitchers ( Doberman Pinchers, what the hell is a doverman pitcher, what MLB team do they play for?) hunting you down,denyied (denied) employmenT because the color of your skin,man i have that terrorist thing down packed.." (that would be pat stupid, not packed! IDIOT!

As far as the Entire Situation:

A. It was President Obama's Failed Foreign Policies, as seen by the Ayatollahs of Iran as the US negotiating from a position of US Defeat,

B. that caused the Ayatollahs of Iran to Increase their Overt and Covert Activities Worldwide against the US (Great Satan) and US Allies Worldwide.

C. The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran had to get the US and US Allies Kicked out of the Islamic Shia Nation of Iraq to: 1. Stop being stuck between the US and US Allies Military Forces (Iraq and Afghanistan)., 2. No possible US and US Allies Military Forces interventions of Iran's Special Forces, Quds, training arming funding millions of Holy Warriors of Islam at the Fundamentalist Islamic Autonomous Kurdistanis Region of Northern Iraq.

And since it has been the Longterm Strategic Goal of the Allies of the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, the Chinese and Russian Federation to get the US and US Allies out of their Backyards (Resources), the Chinese and Russian Federation get the Iraqis Oil that could have paid for the US And US Allies Military Liberation of Iraq with Decades to Centuries of Iraqis Oil. This Strategic Loss of World Resources made the Libyan Oil of Strategic Importance to the US European Allies; however President Obama was already outsmarted as thousands of Holy Warriors of Islam had already helped the Fundamentalist Islamic Muslim Brotherhood take over US Ally Egypt and were attacking US Ally Libya to get the Libyan Military Munitions Depots at Benghazi to attack other African Nations.

D. At the same time everything else is going on the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran is placing pressure (will use Iranian Military) on the Pakistanis Government, Afghans, etc. to get the US and US Allies OUT. As during the British Empire Era (British Colonies) the British Knew that the Pakistanis Sea Ports, Bases for Logistics, Khyber Pass, etc. at Pakistan were ESSENTIAL and Mandatory for any "British Adventures" at LANDLOCKED Afghanistan. So without these US Military Logistics Bases at Pakistan, the United Nations Mission Afghanistan can only support 30,000 including International Aid Workers; the Unsupported UN, US and NATO Military Forces must abandon US Ally Afghanistan again to be Massacred by the Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban once again; just like after the US abandoned the 1980s US Ally Pro US Afghan Muhajeen to be massacred by the 1990s Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban fully backed by the USSR Backed Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, then without any opposition they massacred any suspected Collaborators to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers in accordance with Fundamentalist Islamic Laws. The 1990s Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban then destroyed 20th Century US Ally Afghanistan, destroying anything, "Western", "Modern", "Non Islamic".

So Unsupported without the US Military Logistics Support Bases at Pakistan the UN, US, and NATO Military Forces must leave United Nations Mission Afghanistan by 2014.

E. The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, pressured the Afghans to give the Ally of Iran, the Chinese, the Mineral Wealth of Afghanistan. China Metallurgical Group. Immediately afterwards the Chinese place Restrictions on the Shipments of Mineral Resources to the US and US Allies, this makes it so that anything manufactured requiring these Minerals must be Made In China, as the opportunity for the Chinese to adopt (steal) any or all US And US Allies Technology and Innovations and to improve the Chinese Economy.

F. International Intelligence Agencies and US Ally President Gaddaffi report, "Increased Al Quada Activities". US Ally President Gaddaffi reports this thru the US Department of State channels previously established by SOS Condoleezza Rice. President Obama ignores the warnings, just like President Obama ignored the US Ally President Mubarak's warning of "Increased Al Quada Like Activities", ignored the US Ally President Saleh's warning of "Increased Al Quada Activities", etc. (more US Allies Established Government that were later Overthrown). US Ally President Gaddaffi has his Libyan Military start attacking the Holy Warriors of Islam that are at Libya to Kill US Ally President Gaddaffi the Collaborator to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers, seize the Libyan Military Munitions (weapons, ammunition) Depots at Benghazi to support their future attacks throughout Africa and the "Middle East", release the President Obama Guantanamo Prisoners transfered to US Ally President Gaddaffi's Prisions, and seize 20,000 portable shoulder launched SA-7 Anti Aircraft Missiles to shoot down US Airlines to "Cripple the US Economy". President Obama starts the name calling of the US Allies as "Dictators", "Dictators Killing Their Own People" etc. then withdraws all US Support, US Assistance, and US Funding from these US Allies.

G. President Obama as Commander In Chief Illegally Orders* the US Military to attack US Ally Libya to support the "Libyan Rebels" of Al Quada Saudi Arabia (AQ), Al Quada Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Al Quada Syria (AQS), Al Quada Yemen (AQY), Hezbollah, Al Quada Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), etc. that went to Libya to Murder US Ally President Gaddaffi the Collaborator to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers; they become Ansar Al Shariah to protect and instate Fundamentalist Islam at Libya.

*Illegally as in against US Law, that Restricts and Limits the President's War Powers, 1973 War Powers Resolution (Act). And no US Law (therefore Illegal) with US Congressional Appropriations (therefore Unfunded) like President Clinton and President Bush had to cover their arses.

The USN launches Ship and Submarine launched Cruise Missiles as the First Attacks against US Ally Libya with terminal guidanceby US Military Asymmetric Warfare "Boots on the Ground" attached to the CIA's SAD/SOG. The US Allies and NATO are hesitant to get involved, with US Ally Germany refusing to participate Militarily. The USN Aircraft Carrier Strike Group launches airstrikes, as some of the US Allies ships are just getting to range of US Ally Libya. US Ally President Gaddaffi attempts to escape and the US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces attached to the CIA's SAD/SOG terminally guide a MQ (Armed Drone) to attack US Ally President Gaddaffi's SUV Convoy. US Ally President Gaddaffi hides in a drainage conduit and is found, beaten and murdered.

Ansar Al Shariah seized the Libyan Military Depots (decades of weapons and ammunition including SA-7 anti aircraft missiles) to attack other African Union (UA) Nations.

The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group were killing US Military at Iraq, they became the Libyan Government as supported and recognized by President Obama.

H. President Obama and Vice President Biden Inflamed the over 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers Worldwide with their, "Osama Bin Laden is Dead, GM is Alive".

At many Islamic Nations the over 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers respond with "Obama, Obama, We Are All Osama". As they believe that the Great Satan (US), President Obama has just declared War on Islam.This is worse than the violence of the Pastor Threatening to Burn the Holy Koran; Worse than bragging that you murdered the Pope, while still at Italy; Worse than any cartoons of Mohammad; etc.. As Osama Bin Laden was their Greatest Holy Warrior of Islam Superstar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pJGX1JzyFc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udSEcQbM308

Ansar Al Shariah plans the attacks on the US Consulate (not too far away from them, since they started at Benghazi to overthrow US Ally President Gaddaffi) to coincide with Osama Bin Laden's Greatest Defeat of the Great Satan (US), 9/11.

During the over 7 hour Attack President Obama as Commander In Chief refuses to us any of the US Military Forces of US AFRICOM located less than 2 hours away by slow propeller driven C-130s or US Military Helicopters. A unarmed RQ (drone) is sent instead of a MQ (armed drone) or AC-130 with the munitions capable of being terminally guided by the Ex USN SEALs of the US Ambassador.

The Commander of US AFRICOM, General Ham, volunteers the US Military Forces of US AFRICOM, President Obama opposes and demands that General Ham submit his Letter of Resignation and go on Retirement, just like President Obama did to General McKiernan (Commander ISAF Afghanistan), General McChrystal (Commander ISAF Afghanistan after General McKiernan), etc..

US Citizens at the US Consulate of Benghazi are murders by Ansar Al Shariah. SOS Clinton states, "Funding not the issue", take a guess what the "issue" was (hint: who not what, as Ordered "Low US Presence at Libya" while the US Ambassador and LTC Wood stated since February increased US Military (not Libyan Security).).

Ansar Al Shariah goes to Algeria, Tunisia, then attack Mali.

Presidential Candidate Romulan during the Presidential Debates mentions Mali, President Obama is caught like a "Deer in the Headlights" (blank stare of ignorance, knows nothing).

I. US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces previously after years of consecutive tours at Afghanistan while on R&R, Leaves, at CONUS and on Training Status are pulled off of R&R and Leaves and sent to US AFRICOM, and arrive long before the FBI. We told those that were creating US AFRICOM to learn Arabic and Islam; and NOT some obscure African Languages. After securing certain things at Libya given to US AFRICOM the US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces are Ordered deployed back to Afghanistan, instead of going back on R&R, Leaves and Training Status.

J. Summary, President Obama's Ordered Overthrow of US Ally President Gaddaffi destabilized the Entire Continent of Africa, as US Ally President Gaddaffi and his Libyan Military were the only one's keeping the Holy Warriors of Islam in check and stuck fighting at Libya, using the money from his sales of Libyan Oil to the US European Allies, and using the lives of the Libyan Citizens of his Libyan Military (part of the deal he made to become a US Ally).

The Ally of the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, the Chinese got the Libyan Oil, not the US European Allies, this makes the other African Nations Resources of Strategic Importance to the US European Allies. Also the Mediterranean Ports of Libya allow the Holy Warriors of Islam closer locations to attack the US European Allies (still considered the "Crusaders" by Islamic Believers). Former US Ally Egypt was Strategic to attack US Ally Libya, also Egypt's Strategic Suez Canal, locations closer to attack US Ally Israel, locations closer to support the Hamas Warlords and Army of Islam Gaza. Former US Ally Iraq was Strategic to gain the Support of the Chinese and Russian Federation (Money for Iraqis Oil, Technology, Weapons, etc. for the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran).

The US and US Allies Losses due to President Obama's Failed Foreign Polices are irreversable and permanent as the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, Chinese, and Russian Federation are building up their 21st Century Military Forces to secure and protect all their gains from the US And US Allies losses of Strategic Resources Worldwide (required for the current US Standard of Living and the future US Alternative Energy), losses of Strategic Locations Worldwide, and the losses of Vital Strategic US Allies Worldwide.

The Longterm Strategic Goal of the Chinese and Russian Federation has been to get the US and US Allies out of their Backyards (Resources). The Chinese and Russian Federation using the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran as their "Proxy Fighter", the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran using the Holy Warriors of Islam as their "Proxy Fighters" Worldwide.

Of the almost thousand of us that started with the US Military Training Teams to US Ally Iraq during the Iran Iraq Wars, rotated to Operation Cyclone, that were preventing the above from occuring, only a few dozen of have survived. With most of us going back on Retirement again very soon, so these problems created by President Obama that negated all of our decades of work (many of our peers deaths) will all be the problem of Generation X and Generation Y.

Yep General...keep it coming. Your ignorance is amusing!

General..Yes the IRA was a terrorist group...So now that we have that out of the way care to actually answer my points?

Al-Qaida-linked militants claimed Friday that they were holding two American hostages and would exchange them for two people being held in the United States

BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT Barrack Hussein and Joe "Bite Me" Biden said Al-Qaida was dead, terrorism was gone, the world is A-O-K now!

How dare these terrorists make a liar out of our Incompetent-In-Chief.

When are you limp-wristed Libbies going to learn that killing Osama Porn Laden was simply symbolic for our benefit? Terrorism is NOT a face on a Wanted Poster.

Al-Qaida is a global movement. Killing an insignificant figure-head means nothing to the rising tide of terrorism in the world. As much as you want the murder of Osama Porn Laden to be relevant, he was, for about 3 days after he was killed.

There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. One Muslim is born every second. Out of all these new Muslims even if only a small percentage are being influenced, indoctrinated and trained for Jihad this "war on terrorism" will go on for decades.

Al-Qaida is not going away.

Osama Porn Laden was significant to us because of 9/11, no more, no less. He is no longer relevant as the extremists keep showing the world with their involvements now further and further into Northern Africa. Once we leave Afghanistan, if we leave Afghanistan, their sphere of influence will grow again and their heroin driven funding will grow even bigger than it is now.

It’s a shame we didn’t elect someone that isn’t sympathetic to terrorism.

Mike 1.11 and general 1.12 - Blaming Obama for what happens on his watch is accurate. The lemmings are the dems who continue to blame Bush FOUR years after he left office.

ruin his hearing and trade him

....four years later and it STILLGWB's fault? REALLY?

Are you all freakin' serious?

...the "low"in 'low IQ voters' has retreated into the negative zone...

Wow, the Obama haters are out strong. The impotent little conservatives on here still cant get over the election. They say hatred and pent up anger can kill a man in a matter of months.........so why are you still here? (chuckle)

Yep, the vitriol has been so rabid that it doesn't even bother me anymore. Its just ...amusing and sad that they occupy that much of their energy for hating for reasons that are totally imagined in most cases. Every accomplishment of this President is a personal injury to them.

Wow the right wing haters are out strong. The impotent little liberals on here still cant get over the election. They say hatred and pent up anger can kill a man in a matter of months.........so why are you still here? (chuckle)

Yep, the vitriol has been so rabid that it doesn't even bother me anymore. Its just ...amusing and sad that they occupy that much of their energy for hating for reasons that are totally imagined in most cases. Every accomplishment of this President is a grand fallacy.

Gen.Sherman: i mean come on they have sooooooooooooo much haatred for black men its sick

Here comes the race card again (yawn)…………. Let me make it very clear, I hate the white half of Obama as much as the black half. Now continue with your raciest bull@!$%# if you would like just as long as you understand I hate all of Obama. He is a lying, narcissistic POS. Keep giving him a pass, unfortunately he has 4 more years to continue the destruction of a once great country and all of us will pay the price.

Feed the trades something that will kill them weeks later.

Do the exchange but put a chip in the prisoners so they can locate them all easily later.

Every accomplishment of this President is a personal injury to them.

Yep. Let the record speak for itself:

• Highest number of US households in poverty in the history of America.

• Highest sustained unemployment since the Great Depression.

• Highest number of US households on food stamps and other government assistance in history (and expected to climb in government expenditures 80% over the next decade).

• Highest number of college graduates without jobs after graduation in two generations.

• Record deficit spending that surpasses every single president, combined.

• The first time ever credit downgrading of US debt.

But hey man, Obama is cool! (And he is, to be sure). No worries, college kids, you can still live off your parents when you can't find a job. Enjoy your next four years, America, you massive majority 51% voted for him again, so have fun!

Those of you blaming Obama and his administration:

YES it sucks this happened. But remember this is a PRIVATE COMPANY owned facility. Those Americans are COMPANY EMPLOYEES. The US cannot protect these people who choose to live abroad in countries that have Al Quida operating there. Or would you rather we forbid Americans from living in those countries to work for those companies?

Secondly, Obama has not made a mess of the Middle East. It is NOT WORSE since he took office because of Obama. He has killed the top leadership of Al Quida these miltiants are from a loosely affiliated group

Do you realize that when these kinds of htings (Benghazi -like and like this) happened during the Bush administration you MUST NOT HAVE NOTICED? Do you realize that MANY MORE embassy attacks and deaths of Americans happened under Bush? See Dems at that time did not create a blaming witch hunt directed at the Bush administration when these things happened. So maybe it did not come to your attention.

You have to work to have them not happen but at the same time an administration can't control international events.

You do realize that ten years ago thousands of Americans died on our own soil under the watch of another Presidents'a admin, right? Did you want HIS head then?

You have to look at your own hypocracy.

-Gaddhafi was overthrown because he had plans to to nationalize Libya's all, had taken steps to so and go against OPEC quotas.

-Well this would not completely disrupt oil resources, would de-stabilize it as far as prices, the intelligence community decided that this would not fare well for an already fragile economy

-Ambassador Stevens were was not an Ambassador, he was a CIA operative helping push this through, if his body were not in the possession of the Libyans after the attack and the storming of the CIA outpost not publicized, we would have not known about this.

-Wait for the movie and book in 10-15 years

-Gaddhafi was overthrown because he had plans to to nationalize Libya's all, had taken steps to so and go against OPEC quotas.

-Well this would not completely disrupt oil resources, would de-stabilize it as far as prices, the intelligence community decided that this would not fare well for an already fragile economy

-Ambassador Stevens were was not an Ambassador, he was a CIA operative helping push this through, if his body were not in the possession of the Libyans after the attack and the storming of the CIA outpost not publicized, we would have not known about this.

-Wait for the movie and book in 10-15 years

NOW Hillary comes out and calls this a terrorist attack???

Al-Qaida-linked militants claimed Friday that they were holding two American hostages and would exchange them for two people being held in the United States — the blind sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, convicted in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center and Aafie Siddiqque a 40-year-old Pakistani neuroscientist and mother of three, who was convicted of attacking U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan.

Execute the blind sheik immediately! This BS is going to STOP NOW!!

If you don't like this to bad it's called free speech!

Say dumb ace in the White House still think Al Qaeda on the run?????? Why don't you and that other Jack ace stand up and say it one more time, Ben Laden is dead and GM is still alive you bunch of fools that voted for this poor excuse for a President.

I bet my paycheck Obama gives in to there demands, he just wants to help out a Islamic bother.

AP is reporting that 19 hostages have been killed.

@Rob68 maybe to you and the people who taught you...where im from and the people who gave me lessons the IRA were are and will always be heros...the people of ulster are invaders from scotland and upper england and should go home and leave londonderry to its rightful people...

@MarkMo12757 man you can try and spin your hatred all you want, you hate OBAMA because the man is black his skin his darker than yours,you hate him because he carries himself like a black man,he conducts himself like a black man ,his voice booms like a black man,he represents black men and this you hate with every fiber of your soul...THIS WE KNOW DONT TRY AND DENY IT

now on to this fool

@bonebreaker you think i dont know what romans had since your so smart what did the romans call their rulers because it wasnt emperor being that the romans spoke LATIN and emperor is a german word...we do all know that german and english are not from the LATIN line of language...so whhat did the romans call their rulers? king,emperor,ruler, its all the same...2nd thats what i thought the dogs were called doverman pitchers being that im not a big dog person i got that one wrong...where im from we fight dogs not cuddle up with them and take the time to know their sciencetific names....3rd caligula can be my favorite roman king if i want him to be its my choice, many men through out history has been less than savory people,he was a king and had to rule so you have to do things thats sometimes out their your no king and have never been in a spot where you have other people counting on you sooooooooooo i distrust you leadership skills....4th since you want to hang on my coattail and correct all my spelling you can be my personal assistant......

and to all like i said vbefore we know your hate for the black man is why you stay hating on obama and blame him for everything

If you subject yourself to danger, don't be surprised getting your ass kicked. Americans have absolutely no business in the frigging Muslim sand digger countries. Stay away from there!

sherman - Disagreeing with Obama's policies doesn't mean one is a racist. It is you who plays the race card.

Sherman..Their cause may have been just but their actions were horrible...But it's nice to know that you don't mind groups that kill innoent people....On purpose...

Laurali - Secondly, Obama has not made a mess of the Middle East. It is NOT WORSE since he took office because of Obama.

We have survived Operations at Islamic Nations since the US Military Training Teams to US Ally Iraq during the Iran Iraq Wars, rotated to Operation Cyclone.

PRESIDENT OBAMA AND HIS FAILED FOREIGN POLICIES F**KED UP THE "MIDDLE EAST" AND AFRICA (ISLAMIC NATIONS) PERMANENTLY AND IRREVERSIBLY.

THAT IS A FACT, NOT YOUR OPINION Laurali.

The Mission to Locate and Capture Osama Bin Laden was a Presidential Delegated Mission by President Bush (43) since the 9/11 2001 Attacks, as Delegated with Presidential Authority and Authorization to the Director of the CIA, Commander US Military Special Operations Command, Commander US Military Joint Special Operation Command. The Presidential Authorize the Termination of Osama Bin Laden occured after President Bush (43) Amended the US No Assassination Policy in 2006; since President Clinton (42) kept using the US No Assassination Policy to NOT authorized the US Military Asymmetric Warfare Teams to Terminate OBL so that they could go home to their families ever since President Clinton let Osama Bin Laden go after the 1993 First World Trade Center Bombings.

Laurali - He has killed the top leadership of Al Quida these miltiants are from a loosely affiliated group

President Obama did NOT kill anyone, the US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces attached the CIA's SAD/SOG did. President Obama just happened to be in office when the Mission occured. And if you say no, no, no, then you let us all go back on Retirement, since President Obama is going to suit up and kill all the Al Quada, Taliban, Al Sheebah, etc. (uh huh, he is going to kill Millions of Holy Warriors of Islam by himself, like you said he killed the top leadership of Al Quada.).

so I guess that means al-qaeda isn't disseminated after all and the Algerian military sure knows how to take away the advantage of hostages, kill them first , then the stupid terrorists have nobody to hide behind !

now it looks like the algerians will get a second chance, they made a mistake and left some hostages alive !

Don't you just love the fact that since this current POTUS decided to get involved in Northern Africa, that it has been turned upside down with militants, terrorists, and you can put in whatever undesirable you want to add. Thank you Mr. President for bringing so much stability to the region with your meddling

Oh, stop blaming Obama for this. North Africa has been nuts way before Obama came along.

Obama is not to blame for every terrorist attack. Nor should he be made to have some foreknowledge of every attack.

You haters are just crazy.

Just following in the footsteps of all the Bush haters...... GW couldn't turn around without being blamed for something & Barry has spent the last FOUR YEARS pointing his finger at Bush

Bart,

Dont forget to bow down to your Obama shrine tonight, sheep. Maybe if Obama would actually take some responsibility for something he wouldnt get attacked so much. Why do I picture of you being like that kid on Youtube that was crying about the media ripping on Britney Spears?

in 2002 when the US Consulate in the Karachi, Pakistan, was attacked and 10 were killed?

Or in 2004 when the US embassy in Uzbekistan was attacked and two were killed and another nine injured?

THESE TWO ONLY ARE WORSE THAN BENGHAZI BUT SEEMINGLY THE RIGHT FORGETS THAT THESE THINGS DO HAPPEN UNDER ALL PRESIDENTS (well MORE under Bush).

How about in 2004, when the US Consulate in Saudi Arabia was stormed and 8 lost their lives?

There is more: In 2006, armed men attacked the US Embassy in Syria and one was murdered.

Then in 2007 a grenade was thrown at the US Embassy in Athens.

In 2008, the US Embassy in Serbia was set on fire.

In 2008, bombings in the US Embassy in Yemen killed 10.

Notice the dates, all before the Obama administration.

hypocracy to attack Obama admin when you did not attack the Bush admin for MUCH MORE FREQUENT AMERICAN LOSS OF LIFE ABROAD, as well as here at home on 9/11

I bet my paycheck Obama gives in to there demands, he just wants to help out a Islamic bother.

Say dumb ace in the White House still think Al Qaeda on the run?????? Why don't you and that other Jack ace stand up and say it one more time, Ben Laden is dead and GM is still alive you bunch of fools that voted for this poor excuse for a President.

Condolences to the loved ones of the hostages who were killed.

That having been said, these were private citizens working for a private non-American owned corporation. This facility employed people of many nationalities who chose to work there, who were well compensated for the danger of working in a remote location in a nation with an unstable political situation and who understood the risks this involved.

We do not hold the President responsible every time there is a workplace attack here in the U.S. at a privately owned facility (or even a publicly owned facility.) So, exactly how does a militant attack in Algeria on a facility owned by British, Norwegian and Algerian investors reflect anything about President Obama's foreign policies?

Oh, and Bob James, you owe me your pay check. Of course we did not negotiate with terrorists.

Don't think they said that.

Yes, that is what the headline implied, Grandpa. There are hostages from non-Western countries involved in this situation, and no one at this point knows which hostages survived the attack. To mention only Westerners in the headline and the first paragraph certainly diminishes the deaths of any Japanese, Malaysian and Algerian hostages who were killed in the attack.

you may be jumping to judgement assumtions

I read that Algerians were taken along with the Westerners but they were then released. THat could be why they say "Westerners"

Jane, according to our media, it seems non-Americans don't matter, either. Americans are soooo precious! Gives our gov the excuse to rant about why the USA wasn't told in advance of the attack on the terrorists by the Algerian military.

This is a western news site, so of course emphasis is going to be on the "home team" - westerners.

I swear, people go out of their way to make up controversies.

This is a western news site, so of course emphasis is going to be on the "home team" - westerners.

I swear, people go out of their way to make up controversies.

Marlboro man is a thug interested in making millions from ransoming the hostages. In the hostage market, westerners are a better product.

we keep allowing ourselves to be victims. if you are over in these countries u run the risk and are too vulnerable.

homesick yank

To mention only Westerners in the headline and the first paragraph certainly diminishes the deaths of any Japanese, Malaysian and Algerian hostages who were killed in the attack.

It seems safe to assume that a Western media outlet would focus first on Westerners. I'm sure the headlines in Japan spoke first of the Japanese citizens, the headlines in Malaysian spoke first of their citizens and so forth.

Why anyone would be offended by this is beyond me.

If you follow that line of reasoning, Backcountry, you could argue that this is an American news service. So why not specifically mention Americans? Or English speakers? I don't think many Norwegians read this either, yet they are among the Western hostages. If news is supposed to be unbiased, the story should be about all the hostages, not focusing on those from countries with Western European cultural ties.

Our economy and the political world is global now. The news should reflect this. Many non-Westerners, particularly those working overseas for multinational corporations, have ties all over the world. My own spouse is from a non-Western country, and spent several years working in other countries. I have met many couples like us. Hence, there are many "Western" people who ARE interested in what happens to non-Westerners.

homesick yank

Hence, there are many "Western" people who ARE interested in what happens to non-Westerners.

Were non-Westerners excluded from the story??? No, they just didn't make the headlines.

Check the headlines from a Japanese source- "Some Japanese confirmed safe but fate of others unknown"- http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20130118x1.html

The outrage! How dare they focus only on Japanese when there were other nationalities involved. /sarcasm

LOL ...... thats why I watch Al Jazeera for unbiased news ...

A sad day when we have to watch a foreign news channel for fair and unbiased reporting .. We used to have "Free Press" ... with integrity ... now we watch puppets with a controlled script

If news is supposed to be unbiased, the story should be about all the hostages, not focusing on those from countries with Western European cultural ties.

When the heck was the last time you saw news that was unbiased?

Pretty sure if BP used some of the Billions of $$$$$$ to have protection for these people in the 1st place, maybe this would not have happened. After all, it is right next door to the Middle East!!!!!!

Jen, the bus full of employees was escorted (that means security) by more than one vehicle when they were ambushed. BP is only one of the many owners of this company also. Get your garbage out of here, all you people who hate anyone or anything with power or money make me want to puke. I've never been hired by a poor person, I don't know about you so get your story straight before posting such a stupid comment.

makessense-7131188 - In this article, it is written that extremists ambushed a bus full of workers and seized the plant, according to the Algerian news agency, nothing regarding escort.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who thought that looked odd. I've re-read it a couple of times now and all I can offer is maybe the White House was told as it was happening?

I know I read it 3 or 4 times myself Then got another cup of coffee and read it again... And it still said the same thing...

They didn't know about it, but before it happened they told..... Something strange there for sure

The US urging the Algerians to be cautious was in anticipation of the Algerians trying a rescue.

Replying to ALL!! Brown-Skin Special Forces, still giving y'all a hard time, including your 'Irish President'.

It's now out there for everybody to decide in their own minds how the 'Algerian Special Forces carried-out the Raid, & the ACTUAL RESULTS', because Facts no longer matter, as it's now open season on anyone who's not 'Seal Team 6.

As an ex S.A.S (Member) let me just STATE that in my Unit, the Ghurkas' were hard to beat.

But then, about whom am I refering???

Continue with y'all NONSESNSE.

A lot of things undoubtedly look odd as long as you are deliberately wearing your odd glasses.

Times-Running-Out

Is it the news site or the White House... They WERE NOT AWARE of the raid in advance, BUT... before the Operation the US Urged caution.

What?? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that the Algerians were going to do something eventually. The WH urging them to use caution in no way implies that they knew exactly what was going to happen or when it would happen.

"Hostages, terrorist attack" ... is Obama flying to Vegas for a pre-coronation "fund raiser"?

These are all excellent Obamaexcuses!!

They are not President Obama excuses, Ron. All it takes is common sense to understand the time line, what was said and when it was said. However, those in this Country who view everything with a sick, totaly ridiculous, mf view point, would necessarily come up with a statement like "These are all excellent Obamaexcuses!!". One suggestion, Ron, climb back into your bigoted hole and shovel the dirt back on top.

All it says that, whatever the forces do, they should be cautious and think of hostages first.

The administration was not specifically informed prior to this raid about this particular raid.

Geeze--just took me one read to figure it out.

The only country that knows how to recover hostages is Israel. Algeria would be stupid to ask for the US or anybody else to help them.

refriedbean-1906462

Got the day off and thot you would do a little fishing????

refriedbean-1906462

Surely all the right wing whackos out there have the sense to blame Islamic terrorists for this instead of the Obama Administration, but I might be giving them too much credit.

Surely all the left-wing wackos would wait for the right to say something stupid BEFORE they start whining and crying about it... but I'm obviously giving them (you) too much credit.

@refriedbean-1906462

If this mission went successfully, of course everyone would have been hailing Obama regardless of US involvement.

But unfortunately since it was unsuccessful, we'll just say he had no clue about it and blame Bush, Congress, and access to "assault rifles".

It's perfect logic, since either way, you can't lose.

Ron, before you put the dirt back in the hole, grab Backcountry and HopeyChangeyFeely by the hand and take them with you. Then add dirt.

We probably wouldn't be so fast to suspect the Empty Suit if he hadn't had his minions blame the Benghazi affair on a video that had nothing to do with the attack for over 2 weeks.......

Tough to trust a person that is a serial liar.......

Mikki-2545976

I had volunteered for that mission, but they had selected the last guy before I got to the commanders office... I guess that was one time it really paid to be late.

Mikki...what exactly makes Carter and Obama the "worst" presidents? The fact that they're both liberal? Jimmy Carter didn't botch the Iranian hostage situation. In fact, long ago I read a book that said Carter was working hard on that rescue, then George HW Bush moved in and delayed the rescue so that it would happen after Reagan's inauguration. Sorry, I don't have a link. Read that long ago. And Obama had absolutely nothing to do with this situation. You can't give credit or blame for every thing that happens during an administration.

Since the US military nor President Obama were not in any way involved in this failed rescue raid, I don't understand what you ar talking about, Mikki.

Like I posted above: The warning was given IN ANTICIPATION of an Algerian rescue attempt. Of course, the Right Wing couldn't figure that out themselves!

ECF2222

I have no Idea what you are talking about... You are even trying to blame a failed resuce attempt on Bush... You are sick that is for sure...

Read my Post 10.1 I was close to the whole operation.

he didn't go get the hostages the Algerians did. They may have not let Americans on their soil. But that's immaterial really 'cause it's too early to draw any conclussions as we are still in the middle of things so NO ONE including ou knows yet what the US has done or is doing or will be doing for those hostages if anything

You are so eager to find evidence supporting your preconceived notions about Obama, clearly, that you put this out so prematurely. I actually laughted out loud it was so predictable...I almost at first thought it was a joke l ike the Onion or something

Ohh....really....the kidnapping of the westeners in Algeria is Obama's fault? That cold weather snap the last few days, I guess that was Obama's fault as well. Same as the flu epedemic. Anything else we can blame him for ?

Actually....I think it's G.W.'s fault......durn it...he gave up after 2 terms....he shoulda refused to leave the white house and bombed Algeria.....then we wouldn't have had this kidnapping. Durnit !!

You just 'Proved' my point, in my 'Comment' which the Editorial Censors must have 'Cenored'!!!

I know the SAS are a tough bunch, and the Ghurkas are also a tough bunch. And its not always about Seal Team 6; Seal Team 9 (Naval Special Warfare Support Activities Unit) can also do interesting things.

I know, it is probably jumping the gun to make assumptions about the Algerians without knowing all the facts... even with the Seals things can get fubared, such as in Grenada or Panama.

Yes odb2...And come back here and get a job....wait....yeah that's not going to happen...

Personally, I did not realize that it was Obama's or Americas responsibility to police a private corporate installation in a sovereign country....but hey, whatever floats your boat. "Rob69" I would like your Avatar better if you took that 18 inch long finger of yours and stuck it up your nose....much more fitting!

Absolutely right William.....how arrogant of Americans that they think they are the only ones qualified for these types of resques....

Either that or they're more adept at dealing with al-Qeida than we are.

Time for people like you to go you terrorist rump swab.

Yes, people like Jim complain about companies like BP, then complain on the hi price of gas and electricty.

@NoMore*** christinsanity the reglion of peace...laughing all the way to the pearly gates

GS...Do you ever have posts that mean something or do you troll around with the "oh yes but" or "well they did it too" mantra?

@Rob68 what you dont like people talking about your religion rob...it will be ok