Yep, USA sets a fine example on guns, now everyone wants to be like us and go around shooting anyone we have an issue with. Thank God we don't regulate guns, it would get in the way of being able to kill just because we get our panties in a bunch.

really great reporting what was the suit about, what was the Canadian doing in the Philippines, what was the relationship with the doctor, what is the background on the shooter.

It looks like those Canadians are becoming more and more vicious all the time. Didn't we just have a report the other day that said a Canadian was behind the organization of that hostage taking in Algeria, and now, this. Maybe we had better start beefing up security on our northern border instead of on our southern border. That may be where the real threat lies.

PJ -- good idea. If we ban guns we're sure to get a friendlier more responsible populace. Inanimate guns are the real problem, not the hatred and self centeredness and basic human nature that spur gun violence.

Seems to me the problem is guns...

This is just one more reason America should bring back smoking and guns in the court rooms across the country. Some people just need to be shot and there is no better person to decide who than the shooter.

Even the Republicans are scared to death of guns. They banned them for their convention in Tampa and tried to get the Mayor to make it illegal to carry a gun in Tampa.

Before I get around to calling him a "Canadian" I'll wait to find out which country this Canadian might possibly have immigrated to Canada from before vacationing in the Philippines.

Dick,

"This is just one more reason America should bring back smoking and guns in the court rooms across the country."

Or bring back the smoking gun in the court room.

There we go! No longer need to report any other facts about the incident, just be darn sure we report that another gun death occurred. No need to bother with any of those other triffle little details, we got what we need. Now we just need to keep this up until brother Obama gets what he wants.

ALL media outlets should get out of the business of BIAS reporting, including FOX. Why can't they just report all the facts of a story without trying to spin it one way or another. They all do it!

No liberal spin, No conservative spin! Just the plain simple facts.

Why have Entertainment Celebrities, Pro Athletes, Media Broadcasters become more powerful than the people we elect to govern our country. Why do we care so much about what they say, they're NOT famous because of they're brilliant minds, or their deep knowledge of the political process. Why are more and more prime-time television shows incorporating either a liberal or conservative under-tones? Why do they even write real world political issues into the scripts, then take sides. Again, it happens with liberal & conservative slants, why?

If you ban people, the guns will take care of themselves.

This has to be one of the most poorly written articles I've seen on this site. This is bad even by the NBC Staff writer standards. I guess the subject alone was all that was need to get approval for publication.

Phillipino doctor? LOL

This man also had a charge of illegal gun possession he was facing, and he had threatened the attorney and the prosecutor with the weapon, who were his neighbors in a condo they all lived in. This was all in addition to the malicious mischief charge.

Have no idea why the weapon had not already been confiscated by authorities based on the illegal possession charge. He was accused by his neighbors as being an angry and belligerent person, hard to get along with.

@Jogrinder - the same argument can be made with mind vs body. So if its really our mind that holds all emotions - self centeredness etc etc ... then why punish the body when a person commits crime?

@ PJ - Figure out how to separate the two and then we'll talk.

@Gneisenau - lets do the same with guns and people. Separate them .... why this childlike anxiety about guns. May be obama used the right word "clinging" to the guns.

Why is you feel it's OK to prevent me from exercising my rights under the 2nd amendment? Why do you feel it's acceptable to attempt to do an end run around the 2nd amendment? Why do you think our government would stop at the 2nd amendment and not plow on ahead with end runs around the others? The government can never stop at just one. It's a physical impossibility. The universe would implode into a giant black hole before our government would figure out how to stop at just the 2nd Amendment.

If you give up one single right, you will have to fight for the rest of eternity to keep any of the others.

Invoking 2nd amendment each time anybody talks anything sensible - is just as fanatic as a muslim who wants to kill american soldiers who accidently burn Quran.

2nd amendment and the whole constitution - should change with time to suit the will of the people and the wellbeing of the people.

I am not saying in what way gun control should happen. Just not intelligent enough. But I know that what's going on in this country is quite @!$%#ed up .... and it is @!$%#ed up because of not just mentally deranged people .... but people who are perfectly fine .. but just can't get enough of their guns.

".... carried a Canadian passport but was born in the U.S., police say."

there ya go

great reporting skills NBC...

Try getting facts from a real news source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/01/21/philippines-canadian-kills-2.html

"before dying in the shooting violence — carried a Canadian passport but was born in the U.S., police say.

The man, who was identified by authorities as 63-year-old John Pope, was born in St. Cloud, Minn., Cebu City police's homicide department told CBC News."

@ PJ - The problem is that too often the anti-gunners don't talk about anything sensible. Look at the posts here. How many do you see that want to completely toss out the 2nd amendment. You see people here that would be perfectly fine if the government just ignored it completely. That's just too dangerous of an attitude. We've heard it before in politicians. When they discovered they were in the minority, they shut up. I don't think they've changed their stance any, they just don't mention it any more. Of course the public have short memory spans and soon forget they ever felt that way.

What I think I hate more than any of that is our knee jerk reaction to immediate pass a law against anything we don't like. Don't we have enough laws now? Crap you can't swing a dead carp without breaking some stupid law now. (And frankly swinging a dead carp is probably illegal somewhere in the US right now.) Do we have to rush out and pass laws that really won't make a drop of difference? Why do we feel it's acceptable to punish the whole nation for a few bad eggs? Are we so immature of a race that we have to ban everything we don't like?

@Gneisenau - We may have to agree to disagree since i believe the proponents of 2nd amendment have lost common sense. There are one too many incidents of gun violence. Ban on federal funding for gun violence indicates that the pendulum is on the right side rather than left. 2nd amendment - howsoever profound - never meant to match the firepower of government. A government by definition has monopoly on violence. Otherwise it is not a government. Yes people should have a right to overthrow an unjust government. But today, democracy is under threat from corporate money as opposed to free people being under threat from some foreign power. So people need to look at 2nd amendment in its spirit rather than letter - which IMHO has been almost misused by the gun lobby and people are brainwashed to believe that the right is limitless. Which I believe - no right is limitless - including right to life and liberty. We do put people to death for crimes and put them in jail for crimes. So why the right to gun should be limitless?

Follow the litter trail emanating from Canadian cars going to the Jersey Shore, where they then proceed to treat it as their own personal dumpster.

Bill H-1430012

I can't imagine what they could have done to him to provoke a killing....unless, he was from Quebic.

Putting him in a room with a doctor and a lawyer?

Maybe he didn't get a vacation this year so he wasn't so nice as those who do...

Mymomdidnotraiseafool,

"Follow the litter trail emanating from Canadian cars going to the Jersey Shore, where they then proceed to treat it as their own personal dumpster."

I thought Canadians came to the United States to kidnap American babies. :)

It's all a ruse. Never forget the war of 1812. Or that the anniversary just passed.

Yeah, obviously not a bright one...

Well, he's dead. cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/01/21/philippines-canadian-kills-2.html

A misdemeanor.

Your petty sarcasm, sir, amounts to no more than simple mischief.

But everyone forgets why our constitution says we can have them. There is no chance of a military take over in this county when a soldier has to worry about the little old lady shooting him in the head when he things he is safe going to grocery store.

billoooo,

Same old tired and twisted gun-nut logic. Or were you being sarcastic?

There is no chance of a military take over in this country...

Yes, billoooo, but not because of your collection of firearms. It won't happen because there are too many checks and balances in the political system of the United States.

makes it easier to kill the bad guy too.

Billooo, there is no chance of a military takeover in this country because we don't have a professional military class. The great majority of military people, officers and enlisted, are really civilians who are in the service. They don't identify with their service ahead of the country; almost none of them are multi-generational Army, Navy, etc.

Same with CNN. The anti-gun news media is out to prove that guns should no longer exist, but have not come up with a solution to get them away from criminals.

They'll never be able to keep guns away from criminals. I agree with a ban on assault weapons and limiting the amount of ammo per clip, but I don't want my gun taken away. I'm a single mother with a 14 yr old and my 70 yr old mother living with me. I hope to God I never have to use it, but I certainly feel safer with it.

They - the gov't - can ban anything they want, but the criminals will always find a way to get what they want and/or need for their killing sprees. It's just like the ban on drugs, but all of those can still be gotten in any state in the country. People will always find a way.

No, I think it's an agenda against our neighbors to the North...that's two stories in one day with "Canadians gone wild". First one that supposedly planned the attack in Algeria and now one who shoots two people in a courtroom?

DisabledVet68:...They'll never be able to keep guns away from criminals.

Just have to visit the BBC news website to see that, some of the strictest gun controls in the world and there is still one or two shootings a week in the UK

I don't understand why media is against the 2nd amendment. Do they truly think the 1st isn't going to be next?

Ban Obama and Holder, they are the Chief gun runners. When I hear all this gun control nonsense, I can only cite the hypocritical statements from Obismal as he allowed under Holder's direction to illegally arm Mexicans to kill other Mexican's, Americans and even a US Federal agent on duty. then cover it up-oh what a wonderful administration we have and the liberal media, including MSNBC, that perpetuates misinformation.

As a person that spends extensive time out of the USA, you can push people to the limit or they can perceive to be pushed to the bring and they will respond, be it a suicide vest, gun, knife, car, baseball bat, et cetera. The method is not significant as the result will be the same. Ban cars-they kill a LOT more people in the USA than guns!

We heard you the first time moron.

you do realize that another common element is a lunatic right? Take the guns from them FIRST and I bet shootings go way down.

Take alcohol away, and there goes all those deaths too. Heck, ban abortion, and a million or so a year will also be saved, right?

Bob Hamilton in Chicago

With your being in Chicago why don't you tell us? BTW you do realize this happened in the PI? Their laws are much different than ours.

I agree with trust, Bob in Chicago. And regarding US soil, since you live there where all that criminal activity and those gang banger gunshots routinely take place, maybe you can come up with an explanation...do you really think all those murderers have gun permits and own firearms legally? Are they following those strict Chicago gun laws? How's that working out for y'all? Those gun laws don't do diddly to curb crimes and violent activity. That's why those people are called criminals...they have no regard for the law - any law.

with a gun?

He was. Got shot by police, or maybe suicide after getting shot by Police (I just read a CBC article about this too)

a gun would be fine. hanging would be fine. I'm a liberal...but I also no longer have any patience whatsoever for people who do not respect life. You killed someone with malice and there is no arguement about your guilt........then you should die.

A doctor is too big a price to pay for removing a lawyer.

After all I don't throw out the dishwasher every time I take the garbage out.

You know, if all guns were removed, we would be a society without malice, with no crime, and it would be a paradise of us all sitting in green parks, holding hands, eating organic jelly beans, as we sing cumbaya.

The same could be said if drunk driving deaths were reported in national news every day also. We would then, as a nation, reconsider whether allowing people to drink is really a smart idea in the first place.

@noMoreFilbert: we have already tackled that problem when we reached the satisfactory compromise of allowing ppl to drive, to drink but not to drive drunk. As a result, driving deaths have declined significantly.

And I don't hear many arguing that we should go back to allowing drunk driving just bc some drunk drivers still manage to break the law.
I even don't hear many complaining about seat belts, not driving while texting and other laws which restrict our individual freedoms in limited circumstances when those individual freedoms result in the death of others.

most likely, he either shortchanged the sexy girl for her "services"... or failed to give the pimp a stick of ciggie...