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Subscribe to RSSThousands of anti-government protesters gathered in Tahrir Square to mark the 2011 uprising that led to Egypt's change in power. NBCNews.com's Dara Brown reports.
Five people were shot dead in the Egyptian city of Suez during nationwide protests against President Mohamed Morsi on Friday, the second anniversary of the uprising that toppled Hosni Mubarak.
One of the dead was a member of the security forces, medics said. Another 280 civilians and 55 security personnel were injured, officials said, in demonstrations fueled by anger at the president and his Islamist allies in the Muslim Brotherhood.
Thousands of opponents of Morsi massed in Cairo's Tahrir Square - the cradle of the revolt against Mubarak - to rekindle the demands of a revolution they say has been hijacked by Islamists who have betrayed its goals.
Street battles erupted in Cairo, Alexandria, Suez and Port Said. Arsonists attacked at least two state-owned buildings as symbols of government were targeted. An office used by the Muslim Brotherhood's political party was also torched.
The Jan. 25 anniversary laid bare the divide between the Islamists and their secular rivals.
This schism is hindering the efforts of Morsi, elected in June, to revive an economy in crisis and reverse a plunge in Egypt's currency by enticing back investors and tourists.
Inspired by the popular uprising in Tunisia, Egypt's revolution spurred further revolts across the Arab world. But the sense of common purpose that united Egyptians two years ago has given way to internal strife that had already triggered bloody street battles last month.
"Our revolution is continuing. We reject the domination of any party over this state. We say no to the Brotherhood state," Hamdeen Sabahy, a popular leftist leader, told Reuters.
PhotoBlog: Protesters fill Tahrir Square on anniversary of Egyptian revolution
Ed Giles / Getty Images
An Egyptian protester runs with a live tear gas canister during clashes with riot police around Cairo's Tahrir Square on Friday.
The Brotherhood decided against mobilizing for the anniversary, wary of the scope for more conflict after December's violence, stoked by Morsi's decision to fast-track an Islamist-tinged constitution rejected by his opponents.
The Brotherhood denies accusations that it is seeking to dominate Egypt, labeling them a smear campaign by its rivals.
Death in Suez
There were conflicting accounts of the lethal shooting in Suez. Some witnesses said security forces had opened fire in response to gunfire from masked men.
News of the deaths capped a day of violence which started in the early hours. Before dawn in Cairo, police battled protesters who threw petrol bombs and firecrackers as they approached a wall blocking access to government buildings near Tahrir Square.
Clouds of tear gas filled the air. At one point, riot police used one of the incendiaries thrown at them to set ablaze at least two tents erected by youths, a Reuters witness said.
Yuka Tachibana / NBC News
A boy is draped in the Egyptian flag as protesters gather in Tahrir Square in Cairo on Friday. Despite clashes around the square, the atmosphere inside was festive at times.
Skirmishes between stone-throwing youths and the police continued in streets around the square into the day. Ambulances ferried away a steady stream of casualties.
Protesters echoed the chants of 2011's historic 18-day uprising. "The people want to bring down the regime," they chanted. "Leave! Leave! Leave!" chanted others as they marched towards the square.
"We are not here to celebrate but to force those in power to submit to the will of the people. Egypt now must never be like Egypt during Mubarak's rule," said Mohamed Fahmy, an activist.
There were similar scenes in Suez and Alexandria, where protesters and riot police clashed near local government offices. Black smoke billowed from tires set ablaze by youths.
In Cairo, police fired tear gas to disperse a few dozen protesters trying to remove barbed-wire barriers protecting the presidential palace, witnesses said. A few masked men got as far as the gates before they were beaten back.
Tear gas was also fired at protesters who tried to remove metal barriers outside the state television building.
Outside Cairo, protesters broke into the offices of provincial governors in Ismailia and Kafr el-Sheikhin the Nile Delta. A local government building was torched in the Nile Delta city of al-Mahalla al-Kubra.
Badie calls for 'serious competition'
With an eye on parliamentary elections likely to begin in April, the Brotherhood marked the anniversary with a charity drive across the nation. It plans to deliver medical aid to one million people and distribute affordable basic foodstuffs.
Writing in Al-Ahram, Egypt's flagship state-run daily, Brotherhood leader Mohamed Badiesaid the country was in need of "practical, serious competition" to reform the corrupt state left by the Mubarak era.
Asmaa Waguih / Reuters
On the second anniversary of the uprising that toppled Hosni Mubarak, hundreds of youths clash with police.
"The differences of opinion and vision that Egypt is passing through is a characteristic at the core of transitions from dictatorship to democracy, and clearly expresses the variety of Egyptian culture," he wrote.
Morsi's opponents say he and his group are seeking to dominate the post-Mubarak order. They accuse him of showing some of the autocratic impulses of the deposed leader by, for example, driving through the new constitution last month.
"I am taking part in today's marches to reject the warped constitution, the 'Brotherhoodisation'of the state, the attack on the rule of law, and the disregard of the president and his government for the demands for social justice," Amr Hamzawy, a prominent liberal politician, wrote on his Twitter feed.
The Brotherhood says its rivals are failing to respect the rules of the new democracy that put the Islamists in the driving seat via free elections.
Six months into office, Morsi is also being held responsible for an economic crisis caused by two years of turmoil. The Egyptian pound has sunk to record lows against the dollar.
The parties that called for Friday's protests list demands including a complete overhaul of the constitution.
Critics say the constitution, which was approved in a referendum, offers inadequate protection for human rights, grants the president too many privileges and fails to curb the power of a military establishment supreme in the Mubarak era.
Morsi'ssupporters say enacting the constitution quickly was crucial to restoring stability needed for economic recovery.
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Hillary resigns with (2) nuclear bomb situations in Iran and N. Korea, a war in Afghanistan, Iraq pretty much as it was before the US invaded Iraq, Syria/Libya/Eqypt in civil wars, the US getting drawn into Mali which can turn into a very, very large Vietnam Police Action...well done Hillary...you've punched your ticket to run for president!
She's a fat worthless blob of cellulite! Nothing more.
And a serious detriment to the USA!
Now go back to smuggling cocaine into Mena, Arkansas.
Don't forget the year and a half goose chase Obama sent Hillary on to "negotiate" an end of the Iranian nuke program, which the Iranian's used as a stall tactic. No result reached and the situation is actually now worse.
, With this downward Direction in the new constitution at the hands of Islamic Powers , comes weak political stability resulting from the weakness of the rules of freedom and democracy and the weakness of the rules of judicial independence and the weakness of the rules protecting the poor rights of workers and peasants and reduce political participation them in the parliament and the weakening of constitutional obvious to bind the state of free education and health care ,
with this downward Direction and this weak constitution frame will lead to a constant state of instability and security at the hands of successive generations of Egyptian youth, not one generation to the revolution of January 25
Lets get the liberal media to do a follow up story and tell us how many millions the U.S. tax payers give this country every year. Then followed by a government waste exposing article explaining why we should not use any of that money and raise taxes even more on the american people. Not that taking money out of the us economy is bad right libtards? More government now ! More Gov. now !
Remember kids, the government is the regressives sacred golden cow. They will not expose its efficiency and its the tool to rule you like a king. Is that a large soda cup? No large soda cup for you ! Thanks for saving me from myself libtards. More government now ! More Gov. now ! Come on libtards in the back, sing it, .......
I guess one has to be careful what they wish for? They were beguiled by silver tongue rhetoric, Change they wanted and Change is what they are getting. Now the silver tongued serpent reveals its self.
We voted for change here in the states and we will soon see the silver tongued serpents words of change really meant.
Obama just sent 100 F-35's to Egypt and 100 to Turkey. Wonder why?
They want to take our guns but send high tech killing machines over seas. Siver tongue retoric again.
Obama just sent how many planes of what type to Egypt?
(Does the F-35 even exist yet?)
If you're going to make up complete nonsense, just go all in and say Obama gave them 1000 nuclear armed space shuttles and the keys to the space station.
I read that the U.S. is sending fighter jets to Egypt. Why would Egypt need fighter jets? The only people that they are fighting against are their own people. Or is Morsi going to use them against Israel? The people wanted Morsi, they got him, and now they don't want him anymore. Sounds a little bit like the people that voted for Obama. Careful what you wish for.
Good luck with that!
Our American air force has trained with the Egyptians for many, MANY years. It was the Egyptians who taught our fighters how to fly and fight in Afghanistan, Iraq, and when liberating Kuwait. I am not sure where people are getting their information from, but the issue of fighters/planes etc going to Egypt is something we have not seen any evidence of here in country. The normal training between the U.S. and Egyptian forces are continuing the same way they have since 1997. We have an aircraft carrier in Alexandria as well. I wish all people would check their facts and go further than ANY of the western news media to find the facts on situations.
That may be so, but that was for a government under Mubarak who was our ally. It makes no sense to send arms to Morsi who is an extremist who would wipe Israel off the face of the map and us too if he could.
Muslim Brotherhood have infiltrated many college campuses in the US. Came in on student visas and across the border disguised as Mexicans. (not hard to do if you are an Arab)
So what if the Egyptians, and other r heads tear up their own countries. I do not care....but when and if they start it here or in our Embassys in their countries, then it gets personal.
Yeah Obama was right about this one too!
What a joke! How wrong can President Obama be on EVERYTHING?
Oh wait sorry I VOTED for him in 2008.
He is awfully wrong an awful lot.
And my checks are smaller too
It is not a question of wrong and right ......It is a question of what his motives are. When you understand his motives you will NOT be surprised by his actions in the least.
To the US fighting Muslims is a war...to the Muslims fighting is a life style...someone...somewhere...in the US Government must know this as well as I do...so we are sacrificing our soldiers for corporate interest and "not" in the protection of American citizens...soldiers are citizens by the way...
This looks like a job for John Kerry and his diplomacy ....Get him out there ASAP!
I agree! Send him there on a Swift Boat!
Freedom of Expression is not guaranteed in the Egyptian Constitution. A free and open internet is not guaranteed in any laws. The fight for the minds of the world's children is still being defined by matters of faith and not knowledge far too often. There is an ever increasing shortage of thoughtful people in the world.
It's fairly evident that a lot of Egyptians as well as most of the planet are not well educated...that is what leaders are for...to lead the masses in a peaceful society...this is where Obama fails so miserably...
The Egyptians are higher educated than most countries, including the U.S.. Education here is free through the tertiary level. Your post and "evident" thought is incorrect. Further the doctors here are British, French, or American trained/educated. Dr. Magdy Yacoub will most likely win the Nobel Peace Prize for Medicine for his work in Aswan.
Of course its free. You get what you pay for and by free it means you paid nothing. Wow a Nobel prize, just like Obama's and Arafats. Has less value than a used sanitary napkin, or are those illegal under Islam?
good one skibum
You are both incredibly rude. Stay where you are and get out of the way of the rest of us who make a positive difference in this world. You continually show your lack of education and manners by lowering your argument to personal insults instead of adding to the discussion. These comments are being reported for being inflammatory and having no value.
Sign in Cairo's Tahrir Square: 'Obama you jerk, Muslim Brotherhoods are killing the Egyptians'
Thousands of Egyptians are gathering in Cairo's Tahrir Square today to mark the second anniversary of the uprising. One protester slammed President Obama, calling him an "idiot" and "jerk" for cozying up to the Muslim Brotherhood while the MB is "killing the Egyptians."
Where are you getting this information? There is no such banner or sign...unless the foreign press asked someone to write it. The banners in Tahrir Square refer directly to Morsi and the MB. While I think the naïve American arrogance is interesting, it must be noted that Egyptians love and direct their own country. They know a lot about the U.S., want a Jeffersonian type of democracy, but realize that their country is older and has more longevity than the U.S. has ever had.
So you are there I presume?
What does it mean that they have been around longer than the US? Look at what their thousands of years of idiocy have wrought. An average salary, or per capita income, in the toilet bowl and riots for days on end.
The US trains their military because the State Dept. (and Pentagon) believes in mutual power of destruction in an arena such as the ME. We keep them sort of on an even basis with Israel in conventional arms, in the event that some loony Egyptian General decides to go through the Sinai as they tried in 1967!
But that's it. Israel is the most highly educated country on earth and has almost one thousand nuclear weapons in it's arsenal. Let's see the Persians or Egyptians try to nuke Tel Aviv and see what happens.
Now go have an intimate date with your Camel!!
NoBama you need to reread my post and become educated. I said our air force trains WITH the Egyptians, we have not trained them. They and their aircrafts are desert prepared and trained. And why do you feel you must desolve into racial and cultural insults? Are you so insecure in your position that you must resort to insults? The U.S. gets many of our traditions, skills, and history from ancient and middle Egypt. Some very minor examples for you are honey shampoo. The ancient Egyptians used it from 4000 BCE forward. It came around through Europe and came to us. The surgical tools we use are the same design found in ancient Egypt. It you were to go to Kom Ombo temple you would know this. Even the simple act of chewing gum comes from ancient Egypt. The term gum comes from the Coptic word Komme which means "to chew" the ancient Egyptians would chew honey flavored bee's wax.
Further I am not sure why you refer back to the Sinai wars. Besides happening so long ago, it was actually Israel that breached the borders of the time. Since then, Egypt has maintained Taba and Israel Eliat in a good and peaceful route/border. This is the corner that is shared with Jordan through Agaba.
Again, as with anything I suggest you become educated in the culture, military structure of all three (3) countries for they are rich and diverse. Further, I would suggest you take a course on etiquette/decorum/manners for each debase racial/ethnic slur you throw out there you make yourself and all Americans look bad.
The majority of these "youths" have no idea what they are fighting for, or about...to them it is hanging out with the boys having a good time...
They should be protesting. They have gone from one dictator to another. But watch out, Obama is sending Morsi sophisticated fighter jets to help bolster dictator Morsi's fire power.
So far the Obama administration has shown they are a total failures on middle east policy, the have miscalculated and misjudged every event they faced, The Obama/Clinton foreign policy team has a lot of blood on it's hands.
My daughter's girl scout troop has Egypt as their chosen country for the upcoming penny fair where each troop has a different country that they use for their theme. I asked the leader if they were just going to throw rocks and things at people as they passed by till someone gases them? She just stared at me, she had no idea what I was talking about.
Why would you expect a teacher to have any knowledge about the situation in Egypt, they are too busy indoctrinating our kids to be good little socialist to be bothered with anything else.
@ Who ate my soup. Your daughter and her troop know more than you could ever hope to know. I hope they come and see how wonderful this beautiful country and her people are. I hope you did not say those comments in front of the children or your daughter. My friend here has her girls in the Egyptian girl scouts. They have developed electronic pen pals between many different troops around the world. Why would you spout such horrible, violent, and ignorant remarks in front of a very educated and kind hearted group? Were you attempting to be funny? Most likely the leader was staring at you trying to figure out what in the world you were talking about and words actually failed her.
drjill
I have been to Egypt several times. I enjoyed it greatly. That was before all the riots and fighting and government overthrowing . Maybe you should watch the news sometime. I would never take my family anywhere near that mess now.
I'm glad you have visited, enjoyed, and cared for the country. you have done more than many on this post have I'm afraid. I live here in Heliopolis during the year and back home in the U.S. during the summer. Please do not allow the news to influence you. I actually feel safer here than I do in the states sometimes. there is sooo much incredible beauty going on here, but for some reason the media does not like to publish anything good. for example, the Serapium in Saqqara is now open and the ceiling is stable so tourists can view it. Dr. Weeks and many American Egyptologists/Archeologists are here and continuing their work. Of course there are issues, but people have to remember that Cairo is the third (3rd) largest city in the world. It is eight (8) times the size of Los Angeles. My flat is 2 hours away from Tahrir Square. I am safe, schools are open, students are learning, karate classes, and girl scout classes are being held as usual. I find the news in the U.S. (no matter what channel a person watches) is so negative. I also find many of the posts/people on this blog so incredibly rude. I only began to post because a very dear person (Coptic Christian) encouraged me. Coptic Christian truly feels that people can be educated. However, I am not so sure after reading some of the insults and misinformation some of these people post. Your daughter's troop has the potential to make a very large difference to the children here. I hope you will support your daughter in her pennies program. If there is anything I can do to help I would be happy to. It is important for people/children to understand what we have in common as opposed to the negative that is out there. Please give her and her troop leader my regards. In kindness.
drjill
I gave them a big box of souvenirs from my visits, they will have a great display. The point I was trying to make was that the only images we see of Egyptians is them throwing bricks at military dressed in riot gear. I really wasn't trying to make it sound like the entire country is insane. And maybe making fun of our scout leader for not paying attention to current events. I am glad to hear that it's not that bad, I would love to take my daughter there sometime.
Bless your heart Who Ate my soup!! I apologize if it seemed I was suggesting otherwise. I have major issues with the press being so negative and then reading some of the other posts. I am glad you are contributing to them. And I would LOVE to reacquaint you and show your daughter this beautiful country. It is safe and they miss us like crazy. They get so upset over the news portraying them as bad. I know my friend's troop would love to meet your daughter and share ideas. It is absolutely magical here right now. The Egyptian students are so very curious and want to learn and meet as many people as possible. For some reason our media, and some of the other posts on this blog, make it sound as if the entire country is bad! It definitely is not. And, people do not realize how much hope seeing us brings them. If there was any message I could give to the Americans it would be not to be afraid, to come for a visit, and see what I see on a daily basis. I am consistently ask where the American people are and why they/we do not like them anymore. It is a difficult question to answer and breaks my heart. They ask me to tell the Americans about them and how much they love America. Some of the villagers (Abydos and Denderah) even ask me to bring people back with me. We, as an American society, could help them so much by going there. Most of the Copts, other Christians, Secularists, and liberal Muslims are in tourism. By visiting we are actually helping them. Anyway, thanks for being so understanding and helping your daughter's troop with your souvenirs. By remaining supportive and positive we can make a evolutionary difference. In kind regards.
You have to admit, it looks scary. Most people would rather take their chances with Mickey Mouse than risk getting caught in a riot on the way the Cairo Airport.
Yes you are right~~ it looks scary. I think that is why Coptic Christian encouraged me to write on these blogs. I usually do not have the patience or time for them. And if a person especially listens to the news and take it at face value it can be scary. I was here with 15 students during the revolution two (2) years ago. I brought them home on our regularly scheduled flight on the day of rage. I must admit that I was worried about my friends there ~~ especially after the thugs went crazy. I am not sure if it was reported in the states or not, but most of those thugs were from Saudi. Two of them carried Swiss papers. I never could figure that one out. I was also there with 3 other colleagues and (between all of us) we had about 100 students during the attacks on humanity in New York during 911. At first that was a bit scary, but the Egyptian people came out in droves and protected and fed us. The U.S. Embassy is really small and I knew e could not rely on them. We were late getting out and coming home because the U.S. was closed. We were the first Egypt Air flight to be allowed out. We had full Egyptian Airforce Fighter escorts over the Med. Then, after we reached the Atlantic, we were picked up by the Americans. I do not believe that was ever reported either. I have never been engulfed in so much love and kindness as I was then. Our students still talk about that time and being comforted after we realized we were orphans. To the Egyptians, it did not matter if we were Christian, Muslim, or Oreo Cookie worshippers. (I guess I could have used Thin Mints here instead :) ). They just knew that our country had been attacked and they wanted to comfort us. It was amazing.
drjill
So nice to hear from an extremely well-educated person who actually lived amongst the people of Egypt and experienced first hand what the actual people of Egypt had to say, how they lived, how culturally rich and educated many are, and how much they are very aware of what is going on in the world. The ignorant people that you often find here in the US only base their opinions of others upon the events that are portrayed by the bised media who like to sensationalize anything that will bring in the viewers. Wonder if these same people would like all Americans to be judged by the LA riots.My brother taught English as a foreign language at a university in Cairo. He enjoyed the people there very much, and the majority of his friends were Egyptian. He also taught in Riyadh and Jeddah in Saudi Arabia, and the difference between the two cultures were vastly different, although both considered Muslim countries. Do not lump all the countries in the middle east together. Do not lump all the countries in the middle east together.
Dear Jerseyshoremarie....thank you for your post and kind words. they have meant a lot to me. I am wondering if the people who post here realize how bad they look or the negative impact they are having on the many wonderful Egyptians out there. The majority of these bloggers resort to name calling or saying that I have a vivid imagination...just to try and poo poo off the historical facts and/or current situation. I am also glad your brother had his experiences. I still live here and then go home to California during the season. There are many, MANY, of us here. And we are not afraid. Some of the scholars get a bit irked when we are brought in from the field, but that is normal. :) And you are so very correct in saying that the Saudi's and Egyptians are different cultures. They truly are in more ways than one for they are from the different tribes. The Arabic is slightly different as well. Unfortunately the majority of these bloggers simply want to rant and rave, or spread incorrect information and their own brand of fear. I wish they could see things in the same global manner you, your brother, and I all manage to see and know. There are many more connections than there are differences. In kind regards.
Is there anyone left? Any of those who openly supported the reolution 2 years ago, on the blog? Anyone left who still thinks the revolution was a good thing?
ABSOLUTELY!!! There are millions in Egypt who support the revolution. They are rather a bit too busy to be sitting on this blog, though. Go to the Independent Egypt site and follow some of their posts. It is in English.
do you actually think that this present government will turn out good for the people of egypt you sir are a idiot
With the exception of the personal insult, Brian you ask a very good question. Only time will tell if this government will have a positive impact. We have to remember that democracy in Egypt is only (basically) two (2) years old. In the U.S. we have had democracy for over to hundred (200) years and still finding it difficult. Can you imagine the chaos our forefathers had in the first two (2) years of our democracy? And they had no computers, emails, cell phones, or anything else. Out of any administration both positive and negative things emerge. The important thing for the Egyptians to learn is that democracy takes a HUGE amount of work, investment, and time. They have the time thing down to an art form, but need to learn about the other two (2) categories a little more. More information will come out when their first post-revolution Presidential election cycle happens in four (4) years. I would say that the most difficult lesson the liberals, secularists, & Christians sitting Parliament learned was not to walk out of the constitutional proceedings. I think if they would have hung in there and continued to argue several of the articles, the constitution would have possibly been a bit different. Further, it is absolutely essential for these groups to become more organized. I am not sure if this is being reported in the U.S. but H.H. pope Tadros and the Sheik of the Grand Mosque (who is a liberal) have been having meetings and trying to help the situation.
I guess the bottom line and answer is that time will tell.
Drjill I hope the Egyptian people find there way. The history and artifacts in Egypt are treasures the whole world should enjoy. I have no faith in the US government to help but I hope the people of Egypt don't stop until their voices are heard. Since Camp David, when Sadat made a peace treaty with Isreal, Egypt has been the most trusted Islamic ally of the west. I believe the aid we have sent over the years (if it gets to the people) is well spent. The cultural significants of Egypt is priceless in the history of this planet. I hope our two countries stay friends for many years to come
Bless your heart ragnaar1270!! Thank you for your posts and kind remarks. they are truly appreciated. The Egyptian people are so very amazing. They struggle yet still find their way. I live in an Egyptian neighborhood. Sometimes I would get stopped and asked if I am lost. Now they seem to know me and consider me one of them. They say I might be light on the outside but my heart is Egyptian. I have complete and total faith in them. After seeing and reading some of these posts I can understand why they chose to kick out the foreign press/media. The people feel the media/press do not report the true and beauty of the culture. For every negative news articles there are 15 or 20 stories of people helping and being wonderful. But, as we all know, good news does not sell. However, with posts and people like you, they have hope for you give them hope.
It is the wish of so many here that the people of the world will see through the negative and come to see the beauty and wonderful sites that make up Egypt.
Thank you again. In kind regards.
The Egyptian revolution proves that violence rarely works. It is a good thing for the rest of us to learn how stupid all revolutions are and were. Any country that glorifies a revolution is destining its people to have faith in some forms of violence. All forms are intrinsically evil. No country in the world teaches that. We are all misled in some way.
Hey Jack, I can't help but think you're trying to make a nasty comment there but lack the balls to just say it. Go ahead and give it a try, I know you're Canadian but you can act like a man.
Who Ate MY Soup must be the "man". He must be the American guy who thinks swearing is fine. I think He talks just the way he was taught by people genetically tied to him. Just like everyone else who has balls or ovaries. Jack by the way is also the name of a female. Do my words have to be identified with a particular gender anyways. For you all words are gender based that is why you post the way you do. Next time Soupy think before you post.
So you don't have the balls to say it. You want to get on here and type a bunch of pansy BS about revolutions being bad (ask any American how they feel about them) then try to change the subject to some gender discussion and insult my family. I don't care if you're male, female, confused or just an unattached ass, dancing around an insult to an entire nation is still cowardly. I can tell from the way you write you're just some elitist piece of progressive liberal trash who thinks anyone who isn't civilized to your definition is below you.
You have to forgive Canada and their pathetic attitude towards America. They exist as a free nation due solely to geography. If we hadn't shed blood for our freedom, they'd have never gotten theirs without bloodshed. In fact, they couldn't even make Japan stop over fishing their waters until we told Japan. An honest nation would be forever grateful, but weak people secretly despise those they owe and can never repay, so this is what we get. Canadian culture: white toast plain, with a boiled egg. No salt. Bland and flavorless, like the people and their culture, assuming there is one.
how about the american revolution fool
skibum - there are many countries around the world that achieved freedom (from Britain alone) without bloodshed. Do you think Australia had a bloody revolution, and/or owes its freedom to America? New Zealand?
Mifo read the following, but the answer you're looking for is yes. They owe some of their freedom to our bloodshed.
"Prior to 1901, Australia was made up of six self-governing colonies; New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Queensland, Western Australia and Tasmania. These colonies were ultimately under British rule from the time the First Fleet landed, in 1788, until 1901. Numerous politicians and influential Australians through the years had pushed for federation of the colonies, and self-government. On 22 January 1899, leaders of the six Australian colonies met in Melbourne to discuss a federation bill.
After not being accepted by the states the first time, the amended Commonwealth Constitution was given Royal Assent on 9 July 1900. On 1 January 1901, federation of the colonies was achieved and the Commonwealth of Australia was proclaimed by Australia's first Governor-General, John Hope, at Centennial Park in Sydney. Australia's first Prime Minister was Edmund Barton, who was Prime Minister from January 1901 to September 1903. This gave Australia the right to govern itself.
Although the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Australia came into effect at Federation, this did not mean that Australia was now independent of Britain. When the UK approved colonial federation, it simply meant that the six self-governing states of Australia allocated some functions to a federal authority. Australia gained the status of a Dominion, which meant it remained a self-governing colony within the British Empire, with the Head of State being the British monarch. The British government appointed Australia's Governor-General and State Governors, who answered to the British government.
All Dominions within the British Empire were declared "equal in status, in no way subordinate one to another in any aspect of their domestic or external affairs, though united by a common allegiance to the Crown, and freely associated as members of the British Commonwealth of Nations" at the Imperial Conference of 1926. The Statute of Westminster 1931 ratified the discussions of the Imperial Conference. This meant that Australia and other Dominions such as South Africa, New Zealand and Canada could now conduct treaties and agreements with foreign powers, and manage their own military strategies. No longer were the Australian Governor-General, Parliament and individual governors answerable to the UK. The British monarch could only act on the advice of the Australian Government, and the Governor-General was no longer appointed by and answerable to the British monarch.
The defeat of the large British garrison at Singapore in January 1942 came as a very unwelcome shock to the Australian government. It exposed the weakness of Britain and led Australia to seek much closer ties with the US and it was felt that for this the country needed full independence; hence the date for activating the 1931 Statute of Westminster. Australian Parliament formally adopted the Statute of Westminster 1931 under the Statute of Westminster Adoption Act 1942, on 9 October 1942.
Australia reached the next stage of independence on 3 March 1986, when the Australia Acts came into effect. The Australia Acts declared that Australia had the status of a Sovereign, Independent and Federal Nation. The nation still retains Elizabeth II as head of state, but her position as Australia's head of state is a completely separate position from her position as the head of state of any other country, including the UK. What the Australia Act effectively did was remove the ability of the British Government to make laws for Australia and removed the last legal link with the UK by abolishing the right of appeal to the judicial committee of the Privy Council. Also it was not until 1988 that the last state, Queensland, removed this from their statutes as well.
Some might say Australia is still on a path to independence as we are still technically ruled by the British monarchy, even though that monarchy does not have any right to interfere with Australian laws. There will always be those who disagree with the above, as it could be said that Australia received independence in varying degrees."
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I don't see in there that Australians as a nation raised an army and defeated the British in a violent revolution to gain independence. Or that they wouldn't have achieved it if not for US help. If fact, it looks (to me) almost identical to the process Canada followed to gain its independence.
For the record, I don't agree with CJ that all revolutions are a bad idea - but just spewing nonsense with no basis in history doesn't help your argument.
The Egyptian People deserve everything they get, their current regime is duly elected, by and of the people. Those who thought the outcome would be different are incredibly naive. Why are we supplying Advanced Weapons to a Tyrannical Jihadist Regime? Perhaps it is near and dear to Our Regime? Our Action or Inaction as a Nation has started World War Three, it just hasn't started yet. Look for the Iranians, North Koreans, possibly the Chinese or Soviets, someone will blink and it will have started and we will feel it's impact here, intimately.
Also beware the United Nations' Small Arms Treaty, this could be the mechanism to disarm the U.S. enforced by foreign boots. Watch what is in the Public's Eye, but Fear what happens in the Shadow's and behind closed doors.
Hey Barry Husein,
Good job letting us taxpayers supply F-16's to this muslim regime! Maybe we should have just given fat man and little boy to the Japanese during WWII, makes about as much sense!!
Sincereley your bosses,
The American People
Egyptians don't not like being ruled by Saudi Arabia? You'll like being part of the Muslim Kingdom; women can't vote, drive, or show more than their eyes in public - GOP/Saudi Royals Brotherhood.
Barack's closer to The Muslim Brotherhood than the GOP for sure.
The Egyptians are living their life style which is based on violence...cannot people understand that peace is not the goal of all societies...the only way to deal with these people is to pull a Hitler on them...or just leave them alone...whenever they have had enough killing they'll take a break for awhile...
So here..Have some free F-16's and some other goodies. A gift for keeping your country so stable.
Are we INSANE!?!?
This what happens when the unemployment is high, the economy sucks and the President attempts to usurp the Constitution. Sounds like a similar problem brewing here as the "gun ban" intensifies on Capitol Hill..........................Oh well, there's always the old standby with sticks and stones.
freaking muslims are prone to violence. they are a bad seed. US and Europe should ban muslim immigration completely. camel-faced arabs/muslims hate US hate Israel and Jews hate infidels hate women hate life... they are devil worshipers....the only thing they love is death...they gladly send their kids to blow themselves up in the middle of their own muslims... they are worse then an animals in my view....
Dan; you are so extremely obtuse.
Islam has no place in government of any kind. i has shown to be and continues to be the root of all evil. the fast track sounds like something Obama would pull. they are sure lucky the people in Egypt don't have assault weapons.