Cult accused of grooming sex slaves for 'Christ' busted in Mexico

Mexican officials broke up a bizarre cult that allegedly ran a sex-slavery ring among its followers on the U.S. border, authorities said Tuesday.

The "Defensores de Cristo" or "Defenders of Christ" cult allegedly recruited women to have sex with a Spanish man who claimed he was the reincarnation of Christ. Followers were subjected to forced labor or sexual services, including prostitution, according to a victims' advocacy group that said it filed a complaint more than a year ago about the cult.



Federal police, agents of Mexico's National Immigration Institute and prosecutors raided a house earlier this week near Nuevo Laredo, across the border from Laredo, Texas, and found cult members, including children, living in filthy conditions

The institute said 14 foreigners were detained in the raid and have been turned over to prosecutors, pending possible charges.

Those detained include six Spaniards, and two people each from Brazil, Bolivia and Venezuela. One person from Argentina and one from Ecuador were also detained.  Spain's Foreign Affairs Ministry confirmed its citizens were among those arrested.

The institute said 10 Mexicans were also found at the house, mainly women, and are presumably among the victims of the cult.

The Attorney General's Office said the investigation was still under way as to what charges, if any, might apply in the case. Given the binds of sect loyalty that had been built over an estimated three years, prosecutors were still trying to work out which of the detainees may be considered victims, and which were abusers.

The institute said the sect's leaders made members pay "tithes," with money or forced labor.

An official of the institute who was not authorized to be quoted by name said that women were recruited to the sect and then were forced to have sex with sect elders; the official described it as a form of human trafficking that included prostitution.

Spaniard Ignacio Gonzalez de Arriba set up shop in Mexico about three years ago, after a stint in Brazil and other parts of South America.

He quickly became involved in offering courses on "bio-programming," an esoteric practice that claims to allow practicants to 'reprogram' their brains to eliminate pain, suffering and anxiety.

But according to the Defenders of Christ website, he quickly moved on to claim that he was Jesus Christ reincarnated.

Photos of Gonzalez de Arriba are juxtaposed with a painting of Christ, purportedly showing how the Spaniards eyebrows, nose and mouth are "exactly like" those of Christ.

Myrna Garcia, and activist with the Support Network for Cult Victims who has worked with victims of the Defenders of Christ cult, said Gonzalez de Arriba "mixed bio-programming, Christian and New Age doctrines and fears about the end of the world ... to control followers, to keep them terrorized."

"He made them believe he was Christ," said Garcia, whose group filed a complaint with Mexican authorities about the cult's abuses about one year ago. "Like Christ, they have to adore him, if not they will lose their souls ... they have to give their lives for him."

"There were women who were forced into prostitution," Garcia noted. "It was a form of human trafficking that was extraordinarily effect from the criminal point of view," she said, because the women were terrified of being separated from the sect.

How the cult managed to thrive in an area of Mexico that is tightly controlled by the violent Zetas drug cartel remains a mystery. However, there could be some link; Gonzalez de Arriba first set up shop in the northern city of Torreon, which also has a strong Zeta's influence.

The immigration institute said in a press release that the Defenders of Christ was headed by Venezuelan citizen Jose Arenas Losanger Segovia, but according to Garcia and the cult's website, he was clearly a lieutenant of Gonzalez de Arriba.

The Interior Department said the Defenders of Christ had not registered as a religious group, as required under Mexican law. Garcia said cells of the cult might still be active in Peru and Argentina.

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Prostitution, cults, possibly drug cartels, and Jesus.

Let the trolls loose!

  • 12 votes
#1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:36 PM EST
Comment author avatarsittingonafenceExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Yes, lets make them all instant citizens. Bring em over. (sarcasm)

  • 24 votes
#1.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:03 AM EST

Very scary. (not sarcasm)

  • 5 votes
#1.2 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:49 AM EST
Comment author avatarHOTTICKET-2304234Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Hey, why not. Aren't the libbies screaming for open immigration anyway? Oh wait - only minorities can act un -Christ like, in their view. My bad. (sarcasm)

  • 14 votes
#1.3 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:21 AM EST

Just another wakked religion, in America it would be tax exempt.

Aren't the libbies screaming for open immigration anyway?

Talking about wakked beliefs your's fits right in. There is a lot of current action on Capitol Hill now regarding immigration and the GOP realizes it needs to participate in order to get the Latino votes, talking about whoring. Also you do realize "The president met privately in the Oval Office with Sen. John McCain to discuss jump-starting a stalled White House initiative that would grant legal status to millions of immigrants who broke the law to enter the United States."

The date being November 2004, so if you didn't figure it out the President was Bush II.

  • 20 votes
#1.4 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:54 AM EST

Sounds like this guy would be a sure bet if he ran for US Congress. Would fit right in with the current bunch. They prostitute themselves to the lobbyist, screw over the weakest Americans, and hold themselves in a God-like status.

Spaniard Ignacio Gonzalez de Arriba in 2016? Maybe if the immigration reform gets going right away.

  • 9 votes
#1.5 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:40 AM EST

So sad, hopefully these women will recover from the trauma.

Good call, mpa-4893349, it only took one post for the first troll to appear. then the third, fourth and fifth. Way to go, trolls, make any story all about you and your twisted sense of reality. Maybe I should bring up the old 60s/70s right wing anthem ... love it or leave it...?

  • 11 votes
#1.6 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:08 AM EST

what is this, Taken 3?

  • 3 votes
#1.7 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:20 AM EST

No problem. Just let obama and holder send some more guns to Mexico and hope that these kooks shoot each other. LOL!

Liberals. God love em! LMFAO!

  • 8 votes
#1.8 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:33 AM EST

And this is different how than that Minister of the United Church of the Ministers of God/Serial Killer/Serial Rapist, Gary Heidnik?

Maybe we should deport all the Ministers and White Men....

This tragedy has nothing to do with Liberals or Conservative politics. Weak, miseducated minds use something like this to criticize others..........

  • 9 votes
#1.9 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:48 AM EST

Is Senator Menendez the leader of this cult? A cult has nothing to do with the teaching of Christ.

  • 4 votes
#1.10 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:23 PM EST

Just goes to show people will use religion for anything. Especially power and money. Does the Vatican or the Mormon temples look anything like Jesus had in mind? All religion is a sham designed to benefit somebody else more than the patron.

Oh and btw, before you guys get on the liberals want illegals kick, president Reagan was for amnesty for the illegals within our country. We're not going to round up illegals (like Jews in Nazi Germany) and deport them.

  • 3 votes
#1.11 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:24 PM EST

After studying Christ for half a century I can guarantee you that when He comes back it wont be in Mexico.

  • 2 votes
#1.12 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:56 PM EST

Is he Jesus reincarnate or Jim Jones??

    #1.13 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:57 PM EST
    SocialCaDeleted

    LiberalsRCommies

    I am starting to wonder if he would want to comeback in the United States also.

      #1.16 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:18 PM EST

      LiberalsRCommies

      After studying Christ for half a century I can guarantee you that when He comes back it wont be in Mexico.

      Maybe not Mexico, how about New Mexico...........seems he's been there a lot. oh wait wrong christ, thought you were Tom Cruise.

      • 1 vote
      #1.17 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:21 PM EST

      Yet again another vile act in the name of a God.

      Religion is nothing more than power, money & war.

      I know this will rub some the wrong way, but more people have died or become victims of religion than by any other means in the history of the world. And for what? A claim that someones God is more right than another. I wonder if their version of God where to come back if he/she would approve of the actions.

      I know that some will say that this is the act of a few, but I will respond that currently there are wars raging all over the middle east due to fundamentalist within their respective religious sects....And people are dieing. Those acts in and of themselves does not make their God any more right or wrong than yours, because who are we or you to say which God is the correct one. Imposing ones God onto another and saying it's more right than another is why these things happen and will continue to.

      We can only extend a hand to those that have been victims of religion, & hope for some peace, understand, & tolerance within all belief systems to end the death for the name of a God.

      • 5 votes
      #1.19 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:15 PM EST

      Agreed Unbelievable. These crazy rantings and opportunistic postings make Newsvine less enjoyable to frequent.

      • 3 votes
      #1.20 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:42 PM EST

      wait until glen beck starts his cult.these guys are amateurs

        #1.21 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:50 PM EST

        Sex slaves for Jesus in Mexico. Sound like Romney's polygamy cult is at it again. So many chickas so little time.

        • 1 vote
        #1.22 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:00 PM EST

        .... wow.... it is tragic how desperate people are for the smallest hint of hope or leadership.

        But seriously? "Photos of Gonzalez de Arriba are juxtaposed with a painting of Christ, purportedly showing how the Spaniards eyebrows, nose and mouth are "exactly like" those of Christ."

        Do people not realize that Jesus didn't pose for any paintings? That we have no record of what he actually looked like? The majority of European paintings of Christ reflect a very white-washed, definitely incorrect image of what he looked like. Jesus likely looked similar to modern-day Palestinians.

        Sad - I actually had someone tell me that they only would read the King James version of the Bible, because "if it was good enough for the first pope (The Apostle Peter), then it was good enough for her".

        There is simply not enough palms nor faces for the stupidity of humankind.

        • 4 votes
        #1.23 - Fri Feb 1, 2013 12:32 PM EST
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        Disgusting behavior how dare they call themselves Christians. There is sin and then there is evil. Can they be forgiven? According to New Testament they can be forgiven if they turn away from this gross interpretation of Christs message ask for forgiveness and make acts of contrition. Seems a reasonable approach to moving up instead of continuing toward a downward path of destruction.

        Given how widespread drugs sex and crime is in South and Central America this does not surprise me that the dominant religion (Christianity) would be dragged down into the bowels of this new hell on earth.

        • 10 votes
        Reply#2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:47 PM EST
        Comment author avatarkent666Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        How do you know whether god wanted these broads to bang this beaner or not? Did he talk to you about it?

        • 4 votes
        #2.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:24 AM EST

        this does not surprise me that the dominant religion (Christianity) would be dragged down into the bowels of this new hell on earth.

        Where do you think it came from in the first place? It was born of greed and hatred, like almost every other religion. Go ahead, put another $1 on your clergys plate. He thanks you for his new cadillac. Oh, and god thanks you too. god needs money, just ask any church leader who has no job and no skills.

        • 17 votes
        #2.2 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:53 AM EST

        They're christian because they believe in christ. You don't get to judge who is and who isn't christian. Don't forget that Jesus approved of slavery.

        • 3 votes
        #2.3 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:11 AM EST

        Too bad the new testament was written by men, not a god. No god ever played a part in it cause none ever existed. The fact that people actually still believe in that crap proves that we are still in a moronic, sheep-filled society. I wonder if some people are still running around saying the Earth is flat?

        • 3 votes
        #2.4 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:14 PM EST

        Daniel, you sound like a man who knows where he is going. Sorry, I do not want to go with you. However, if you keep reading the comments, you will have several companions.

        Have fun, now.

        • 2 votes
        #2.5 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:22 PM EST

        Why do you think you know where Daniel is going? Thats pretty arrogant of you to assume that considering you dont know him personally.

        • 2 votes
        #2.6 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:47 PM EST
        SocialCaDeleted

        Here's an idea from this ludicrous statement, ""Defenders of Christ" cult". WT.....don't call it a cult, call it what it is......"chirstians gone wild"...........

        • 2 votes
        #2.9 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:19 PM EST

        Alverant I am curious as to where Christ said that he approved of slavery? Also calling yourself a Christian and being a Christian are two different things. You are correct that I can not judge their worthiness in Gods eyes but I do have the right to express revulgion for their manipulation of Christs message. In truth I do not consider myself a true Christian as I do not gravitate toward death worshipping rituals of any type.

        • 3 votes
        #2.10 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:08 PM EST
        Reply

        I want my money back!! This mail-order catalog i'm holding in my hand states a full refund if unhappy.

        -fin

        • 4 votes
        Reply#3 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:22 AM EST
        SocialCaDeleted
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        Comment author avatarGraphicsLaExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        Okay, Obama, let's be sure to keep the border nice and loose. Oh and make sure we have an open door policy for people like this to stay here when they "immigrate" without being "documented."

        • 10 votes
        Reply#4 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:32 AM EST

        Too funny Phillykevin2 - It really isn't much different than what's happening in our own country with businesses and government.

        • 6 votes
        #4.2 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:28 AM EST

        Hey, GraphicsLa, are you reading a different story, or just twisting the story to fit your alternate reality? It happened in Northern Mexico, not the US.

        • 3 votes
        #4.3 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:11 AM EST

        Yeah, because Obama has kept it so loose, right? When people like you learn to read your opinion will matter SO much more!

        http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/29/the-2007-immigration-bill-set-border-security-targets-weve-hit-most-of-them/

        • 3 votes
        #4.4 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:38 AM EST

        And before you pull the bullsh*t "liberal media" crap you guys always pull, here's a chart from CBO showing the budget request for these things. But keep talking...the more we know how ignorant you are the less stock others can start putting in your opionion. Nice research, though...it's obvious you do so much of it.

        http://www.cbo.gov/publication/43520

        • 3 votes
        #4.5 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:42 AM EST

        phillykevin2...just another braindead idiot who can't think intelligently for himself. So sad our education system produces such inferior souls.

        • 2 votes
        #4.6 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:57 PM EST

        Hey, ya'll maybe GraphicsLa is from Mexico............and is complaining about all the border jumpers from the US................

        • 1 vote
        #4.7 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:31 PM EST
        Reply

        This cult would have done even better in the Bible belt no doubt.

        • 15 votes
        Reply#5 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:54 AM EST
        Comment author avatartiredofthelunacyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        Christians in the Bible belt know more about what the Bible says than these idiots did. Kind of like you, they listened to others rather than read it themselves.

        • 10 votes
        #5.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:27 AM EST

        Sounds more like the dept. of education. More pedophiles located there than anywhere else. Read 5 stories this week about teachers and coaches banging the students.

        • 7 votes
        #5.2 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:33 AM EST
        Comment author avatarHOTTICKET-2304234Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        Sounds more like the dept. of education. More pedophiles located there than anywhere else.

        Exactly. Great post.

        • 5 votes
        #5.3 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:23 AM EST

        I don't know, I think they were in the right place. After all, where are you going to find a guy named Jesus (Hay-sus) anywhere else?

        • 2 votes
        #5.4 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:37 AM EST
        Comment author avatarTL-1214673Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        @tired...

        Christians in the Bible belt know more about what the Bible says than these idiots did. Kind of like you, they listened to others rather than read it themselves.

        In my experience, most people in the bible belt can barely read or write, and just like the rest of the religious morons, they put $$ on the plates of those who can best fool them, Mostly pedophiles and crackheads.

        GL with your road to eternity, hater.

        • 7 votes
        #5.5 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:49 AM EST

        Yup, christianity is all a zobie blood cult, doesn't matter which sect it is, and the bible belt nutz are the worst of all christians. As for pedophiles, seems the x-tians and wing nutz have a monopoly on that as well, and a handful of stories about female teachers sleeping with 15 or 16 year old students will never overcome the weekly discovery of christian clergy, and memebrs of other conservative organizations like the cub scouts, having repeatedly raped young boys.

        christianity, like conservativism, is a cancer that cannot be cured, it must be removed.

        • 5 votes
        #5.6 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:56 AM EST

        They actually sound like they live in Chicago, just less violent than the Obamanites there.

        • 4 votes
        #5.7 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:23 AM EST

        ...or Utah; you know how they just love their cults, improvised takes on Christianity, and sexual perversions over in the western heartland.

        • 2 votes
        #5.8 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:42 PM EST

        Would have done better in the bible belt? AMEN! Since all religions are just cults, anyway. one can clearly see the same going on in it, as in other religions. It's ALL brain-washing; it's just what cultism is......brain-washing! "Like Christ, they have to adore him, if not, they will lose their souls ... they have to give their lives for him & constantly fear him."

          #5.9 - Fri Feb 1, 2013 3:07 PM EST
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          Comment author avatarDodger-891678Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

          Hey, Obama will give them all a path to citizenship and everything will be fine.

          • 12 votes
          Reply#6 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:02 AM EST

          Absolutely. I'm sure people like this would love to pick our dwindling crop supply. That is the job that the morons think we need immigrants for isn't it? well along with yard work and fast food restaurants.

          • 5 votes
          #6.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:20 PM EST
          Reply

          Ya gotta love organized religion.

          Tax churches, mosques, and synagogues now!

          • 16 votes
          Reply#7 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:07 AM EST

          Just as soon as we tax hate groups like Jesse Jackson's rainbow coalition and the NAACP.

          • 11 votes
          #7.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:24 AM EST

          Religion doesn't corrupt people, people corrupt religion. Too bad you haven't figured something so simple out.

          • 5 votes
          #7.2 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:24 PM EST

          The Bible is one of the most immoral documents ever created by men.

          • 1 vote
          #7.3 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:33 PM EST

          Aw skibum, you're just mad no one is out there working on behalf of stupid people like yourself. Well, besides the GOP and the NRA, of course

          • 2 votes
          #7.4 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:45 PM EST

          EXCELLENT point, are122.

            #7.5 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:20 PM EST
            Reply

            Are we supposed to believe that a cult so close to the American border didn't cross it? Foreigners in Mexico and not crossing the border with prostitutes? Is this the end of the story?

            • 7 votes
            Reply#8 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:11 AM EST

            CATCH'EM! These are the kinds of people we need to Lob at the Iranians and N. Koreans!

            • 3 votes
            Reply#9 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:15 AM EST

            Organized crime/religion, slavery, illegal aliens, prostitution, drugs, are all the benefits we may partake of thanks to our open border. After our lawmakers give these people amnesty we will have another group of high quality citizens to fill our courtrooms and prisons. This will never stop commonly occurring south of the border, but we can control the numbers of these types of scum from infiltrating into our nation by building a barrier and militarizing the US/Mex border. If you can not see the danger that is being imported daily to our country you are probably purposely blind or perhaps involved personally in profiting from this insurgency. If you can see the danger contact your representatives and insist they take positive action to eject these invaders and secure our safety and defend the sovereignty of our nation.

            • 4 votes
            Reply#10 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:37 AM EST

            Your republicans are the ones shouting for immigration now altho everyone knows they just want to milk the gov't for all they can get to build and guard said fence. More money the blue states will pay for.

            • 6 votes
            #10.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:52 AM EST

            Blue states appear to get back less from the Federal Government than Red states, but its only true if you account for military pay and expenses the same way we do welkfare payments. The Red staters, being real Americans provide about 80% of the military. If the Blue states were not filled with fat, selfish Progressives they too would earn military pay.

            • 6 votes
            #10.2 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:26 AM EST
            Reply

            Everyone who pays a tithe is participating in the same basic set-up, just not quite so crude.

            For centuries the Catholic Church has insisted women perform their conjugal duties without birth control so there would be more little tithers to add to the obscene riches of the Vatican.

            How is that any different? You can say the Pope himself wasn't doing the propagating, but that's probably only because he prefers boys.

            • 7 votes
            Reply#11 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:00 AM EST

            You and the Pope seem similar.

            • 1 vote
            #11.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:26 AM EST
            Reply

            I feel for those women who were abused. :(

            • 4 votes
            Reply#12 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:07 AM EST

            Once again, morons will believe anything and do anything if they are told that god or jesus wants them to do it. Why is this illegal? People in the U.S. do the same thing, Churches here take advantage of people too.They are so terrified about going to hell that they will do anything to prevent that from happening and the leaders of the churches know this. Most church leaders know that these are ridiculous fairy tales but it is a great source of income for them and the perks are nice too. If they are stupid enough to believe in this nonsense, then let them be taken advantage of. I just wish I had thought of it when I was younger and I could be rich now with tons of chicks wanting "salvation". Actually god did just talk to me and he said if you are hot then contact me to make sure you don't go to hell and don't be afraid to bring some cash with you too. It will greatly reduce the chance you will burn for eternity. Thank you!

            • 4 votes
            Reply#13 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:13 AM EST

            Kent. Agreed.

            Please join the Freedom From Religion Foundation and help fight the idiocy.

            FFRF.ORG

            • 5 votes
            #13.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:43 AM EST

            As an avowed Atheist I admit I have far more faith in organized religion than I do the Federal Government.

            • 7 votes
            #13.2 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:27 AM EST

            Churches here take advantage of people too. ?? I see Churches in my area collecting and handing out food, taking meals to the elderly, helping people thrown out of their houses, people who can't find a job. I also think the Salvation Army does a great job. Just what do you do for anyone? Care to volunteer higher taxes to take over??

            • 4 votes
            #13.3 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:56 PM EST

            They hand out expired food they got for free and all the people have to do is listen to them spout their nonsense to get the food. It hardly seems worth it. Christians try to be seen as completely alturistic but they have motives for the "good" they do. As far as what I do for anyone , I take care of 3 kids that are not mine because they are great kids and deserve a good life and don't expect anything in return unlike the Christians who require the unfortunate to "accept jesus" to recieve thier help. I can't believe a religious wacko would even mention taxes. I pay a @!$%#load of taxes but I don't see any churches paying their fair share.

            • 2 votes
            #13.4 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:43 PM EST
            Reply

            More sickos. WTF? Christians. LOL!

            • 3 votes
            Reply#14 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:22 AM EST

            jesus is back!!! Sweet! Put some $$ on his plate.

            More love to spread around to his sheep.

            Go god!! You're the best!

            • 2 votes
            Reply#15 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:41 AM EST

            "The uneducated and the misinformed are easily led astray." -- John Mellencamp

            • 7 votes
            Reply#16 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:10 AM EST

            Though no philosopher he seems correct. After all, Obama was re-elected.

            • 4 votes
            #16.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:01 PM EST
            Reply

            I wonder why the states with the highest population of religious people are also the least educated.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#17 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:21 AM EST

            Because people who make up answers that result in an F on test can find someplace in the myths of the bible to support their made up answers...

            • 3 votes
            #17.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:40 AM EST

            Why do states and cities with the highest percentage of black and Hispanics have the highest birthrate, lowest work rate, highest welfare rate and lowest educational achievement? By the way those states you refer to? They have the highest percentage of blacks, who tend to be more religious church goers than whites.

            • 3 votes
            #17.2 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:29 AM EST

            @skibum609 Because a lot of them don't have common sense or the need to fit in with our society. They just want to live in their own little bubble and live off of whitey's dime.

            • 3 votes
            #17.3 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:24 PM EST

            What does race have to do with being a religious retard. All races are guilty of being morons regarding religion. It does seem to me that the white conservative christians such as Fallwell(pervert), Robertson(senile), Schuller(thief), the kkk, abortion bombers, and the like cause more problems and spread intolerance more so than spooks and beaners ever do. By the way, I am white cracker who believes all people are the same regardless of race. Just some more stupid than others.

            • 4 votes
            #17.4 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:36 PM EST

            I wonder why no atheist can tell me how the physics that control the universe were established.

            • 1 vote
            #17.5 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:53 PM EST

            So you get rid of the blacks and Latinos on welfare and then what do you have left over?

            You're left with that overwhleming majority of poor, ignorant, sketchy, mass shooting, child molesting, paint huffing white people who have been living generation after generation on welfare since the 1930s when ONLY WHITES were permitted to use (and abuse) social welfare programs.

            Funny as hell how the vocal minority of racist white people seems to know everything about crime and social statistics of other groups and remain entirely ignorant of the statistics of their own group. Must break your heart to find out through the FBI's Universal Crime Report that despite your hopes and dreams that whites still make up the overwhelming lion's share of violent criminal offenders. And even if follow that silly cannard about blacks offending in greater percentages than their representation in the general population that, because violent crimes are still overwhelmingly committed by people familar and known to the victim, whites commit the greater number of all crimes.

            Thus the rabid racist minority within the white community are so intently focused on black men behaving badly - who are still incarcerated at twice the rates of whites who commit similar offenses; somehow white offenders are getting more reduced sentences and probation than their black and Hispanic counterparts - that they utterly forget their crap still stinks just in greater numbers and social leeway than any other group. Well go ahead and crap yourselves, guys, and tell yourself that its chocolate fudge; the rest of us knows it really smells like and you're fooling no one.

            • 1 vote
            #17.6 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:04 PM EST

            Hey are122. I assume you are a religous retard so you tell me your theory how the universe was created and the physics involved.

              #17.7 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:24 PM EST

              122, better yet. Show me God. Not a path to God. Show me God.

                #17.8 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:54 PM EST

                Why do states and cities with the highest percentage of black and Hispanics have the highest birthrate, lowest work rate, highest welfare rate and lowest educational achievement?

                Funny that you don't know a thing about demographics. Look at the statistics from the U.S. Department of Labor. The lowest rate of academic achievement comes from predominately-white red states such as Okahoma and Texas. Even Washington D.C. and Illinois has a higher achievement rate despite the high percentage of minorities. Go look it up for yourself. And by the way, as a black man I have two college degrees and work 50 hours a week as a regional sales representative and my wife's a phyisician. Everything I have I worked for and no white man ever gave me anything...except maybe grief.

                • 1 vote
                #17.9 - Sat Feb 2, 2013 6:46 PM EST
                Reply

                Monkeys are captured by putting a shiny object in a narrow neck bottle...once the monkey grabs the shiny object the monkey will not let go while it is captured...thus the heritage of christians is established...

                • 2 votes
                Reply#18 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:25 AM EST

                Thus those are decedent from monkeys are understood.

                  #18.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:51 PM EST
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                  There are some strange parallels to the origins of Christianity here. For instance The Bible says Jesus was always with the prostitutes and tax collectors (drug dealers of today). Christianity is by definition a cult and certainly was very much like a cult when it began. Religion is one of the best ways to control a persons thinking.

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                  Reply#19 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:30 AM EST

                  And the prophets were poet minstrels...although current christianity portrays a prophet as a seer...

                    #19.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:38 AM EST

                    You don't need religion. Look what Obama did...health care for all...all but him, his cronies and union pals that is. And the sheeple insert nose ring and stick up for him LOL.

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                    #19.2 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:46 PM EST
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                    Photos of Gonzalez de Arriba are juxtaposed with a painting of Christ, purportedly showing how the Spaniards eyebrows, nose and mouth are "exactly like" those of Christ.

                    I suggest we find the artist who created this painting. We'll be able to get the secret of time travel from him. We should also search for any camera that he took with him and for any photographs he might have taken.

                    Why, we could then use this wondrous new knowledge to rewrite all the history books and piss off nearly everyone! Just think of all the fun we could have . . .

                    What never ceases to amaze me is how the gullibility quotient of people increases in direct proportion to the preposterousness of the evidence given for claims. Cults and outlandish religious practices are only one of the inevitable results.

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                    Reply#20 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:32 AM EST

                    I wonder how the "law" will prove Ignacio Gonzalez de Arriba isn't Christ or if they will ignore that claim and prosecute him...regardless it's interesting someone can claim to be Christ and the people have no way to prove or disprove the claim...

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                    Reply#21 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:50 AM EST

                    Ignacio Gonzalez DE ARRIBA? The name says it all...

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                    Reply#22 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:08 AM EST

                    Ever notice these religious cult guys always have an element of sexual perversion in their deal? Warren Jeffs, David Koresh, Jim Jones, all of em. If you find odd stuff dealing with religion like this it is practcally guaranteed that there is sexual abuse going on.

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                    Reply#23 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:56 AM EST

                    That is true. Very strange. Maybe there should be a study done about that.

                    Nevermind. Studies have found that most studies are completely useless.

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                    #23.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:38 PM EST
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                    I'm glad this cult was broken up. Now they need to aim higher and go after the biggest child abuse cult in the world, the Roman Catholic Church.

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                    Reply#24 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:09 AM EST

                    Keep dreaming. Too many Catholic voters to offend if you do that.

                    Religion and gods are just shelter for insane ideas. Somehow society has progressed in spite of these superstitions.

                      #24.1 - Wed Feb 6, 2013 11:04 AM EST
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                      As long as there are gullible people there will be a religion to take advantage of them.

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                      Reply#25 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:09 AM EST

                      A religion or people? I have never seen a religion take advantage of anyone.

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                      #25.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:44 PM EST

                      Joke of the day....me either!

                        #25.2 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:56 PM EST
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