Serial killer mystery for women on Canada's 'Highway of Tears'

Ben Nelms / Reuters, file

Women whose daughters are part of a missing women's inquiry in Canada cry during discussion of a report, titled 'Forsaken,' that examines the mishandling of the Robert Pickton serial killer case.

Sarah de Vries started running away when she was 13, in 1983. She lived in cheap apartments and grim hotels in downtown Vancouver, British Columbia -- places that would let a teenager turn tricks. Later, she got hooked on heroin.

Sarah's big sister, Maggie, remembers a bubbly, adorable baby. But life was not always easy. Of mixed race, with some black and aboriginal ancestry, Sarah was targeted by racist bullies, and sometimes felt disconnected from her white adoptive family.


In 1995, she wrote about how many women were missing from her neighborhood, Vancouver's rough Downtown Eastside.

"Am I next? Is he watching me now?" she wrote in a journal her sister published years later, after Sarah, too, disappeared. "Stalking me like a predator and its prey. Waiting, waiting for some perfect spot, time or my stupid mistake."

We know now that the Downtown Eastside was where serial killer Robert Pickton found his victims, picking up sex workers, killing them, and disposing of their bodies on his pig farm.

Investigators charged him with 26 murders, but only six counts went to trial. Found guilty in 2007, Pickton was jailed for life, the toughest sentence possible in Canada, which has no death penalty.

Vancouver police now admit they made mistakes probing the murders, and a public inquiry report released last month, titled "Forsaken," highlighted a "systemic bias" against the victims, paired with public indifference.

'Compelling information'
When Sarah de Vries went missing in 1998, her disappearance was one of many unsolved cases in the Downtown Eastside.

Vancouver police believed there had been an increase in disappearances but were unsure why. Some officers recognized a serial killer at work, but others clung to the idea that the women had just moved and did not want to be found.

A Vancouver police review from 2010 said the case was clear only in hindsight. But it also found that even in 1998 and 1999, police had "compelling information" pointing to Pickton: tales of bloody clothes and of a woman's body suspended in his barn.

Andy Clark / Reuters -- file

A supporter lights candles surrounding photos of murdered women outside the Missing Women's Commission of Inquiry in Vancouver, British Columbia on Dec. 17.

Pickton agreed to a search in 2000, but it was never done, and he was caught in 2002 only because of a separate weapons probe. DNA linked him to 33 of the Downtown Eastside's more than 60 missing women, including Sarah de Vries.

Vancouver police, who say they have made changes since 2002, have apologized: "We could have, and we should have, caught Pickton sooner," Chief Constable Jim Chu said in December.

Pickton's farm was in an area that is under the jurisdiction of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, who have said they will study the inquiry report. They declined to comment on the case.

Canada is still wrestling with what the Pickton case means. It prompted questions about the fate of scores of other missing and murdered women, and in the years since Pickton's 2002 arrest, police have set up new task forces to investigate some of the disappearances.

One of these is the Royal Canadian Mounted Police's Project E-Pana, which was asked to determine whether one or more serial killers had stalked young women along British Columbia's highways.

'Highway of Tears'
In northern British Columbia, so many women, many of them aboriginal, have gone missing along Highway 16 that their families call it the "Highway of Tears." Those cases, along with disappearances near two other highways in the province, are Project E-Pana's focus. The 18 cases it is dealing with date from 1969 to 2006.

But E-Pana, which police say they named for an Inuit goddess who cares for the dead, has not cracked any of the cases along Highway 16.

Gladys Radek, who grew up in northern British Columbia, said she has known about the disappearances since she was a girl. In 2005, her niece, 22-year-old Tamara Chipman, went missing.

"The RCMP have always been in denial that there is a Highway of Tears," she said.

Among Canada's major provinces, British Columbia has the lowest clearance rate -- 49 percent of the murders are unsolved, compared with 39 percent nationally -- perhaps because of the Highway of Tears and Downtown Eastside cases that remain open.

Aboriginal women are disproportionately likely to be murdered in Canada, and they were overrepresented among Pickton's suspected victims.

Wally Oppal, whose inquiry produced the "Forsaken" report, recommended that British Columbia's government replace the patchwork of police jurisdictions in the Vancouver area with a regional force. He said geographic isolation, poor transit and poverty in the north of the province have put women and girls at particular risk.

The matter is urgent, he wrote: "Serial predators are committing violence today; that is an inescapable fact."

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Canadians appear to be overly aggressive and vindictive from an Americans point of view. :-)

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Reply#1 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:29 PM EST

Oh Warren, would that smell be sarcasm?

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#1.1 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:58 PM EST

Right WIngers have ruined sarcasm for everybody because so often their posts are so bizarrre you can't telll if they're joking. I'd post more but I have to machine gun the spider monkeys President Obama has trained to conme down chimneys on machine gun stealing expeditions.

  • 1 vote
#1.2 - Sat Feb 2, 2013 9:59 AM EST
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Here is an idea,

If you think living life as a hooker, drug abuser and all around scumbag is awful,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,stop doing it.

Instead of blaming averyone else on earth for your lousy decisions and behavior, stop being a miserable pile of crap of a human being.

If you look at stats related to serial killers, murders or crime in general you will quickly learn one thing.

Between 70% and 95% of people killed are criminals or otherwise engaged in criminal behavior.

The great majority of people killed are not at work, in church or home before 11pm.

They are slinging dope, street walking, car prowling, raping or robbing.

High risk behavior has high risks, get used to it or stop doing it.

  • 13 votes
Reply#2 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:43 PM EST

Did you even read this? You really believe that because these women lived a life not of your approval, they deserved to die? The teenaged girls and women who have gone missing on The Highway of Tears were not living a transient lifestyle. Shame on you.

  • 33 votes
#2.1 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:03 PM EST

By that logic, next time you suffer injury, dont seek medical help... just deal with it seeing as you are to blame... your actions put you in harms way, right?

  • 27 votes
#2.2 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:06 PM EST

Here is an idea: if you don't like being a bigoted, ignorant, self-righteous jerk...stop doing it!

See how easy it is?

Why don't you mention the awfulness of the johns, who make this lifestyle possible in the first place? It's not like hookers came up with the idea of hooking, then mounted an advertising campaign along with corporate branding and commercials to create a demand for it!

  • 22 votes
#2.3 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:33 PM EST

Some people are so ignorant to the many many contributing factors of any one person's life, decisions or circumstances. I am glad for you paid, that you have had a relatively easy life, unobstructed by hardship, abuse, poverty, exploitation and mental disease but not everyone is so fortunate.

  • 12 votes
#2.4 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:24 PM EST

Well, paidmy, I guess you got told off for putting forth an idea!

  • 1 vote
#2.5 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:31 PM EST

HerRoyalGrooviness

You really believe that because these women lived a life not of your approval, they deserved to die?

Answer: No

Question: Do you really believe that bad choices may not (or should not) result in bad consequences?

  • 3 votes
#2.6 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:47 PM EST

Paidmyfeee You are a truly fine, Christ-like human being. THere is a place for you in the New Republican Party! Maybe as the Veep candidate in 2016.

    #2.7 - Sat Feb 2, 2013 10:01 AM EST

    The fact that Picton's victim's were disproportionately Native is the tip of a very big iceberg. Crimes against Natives and Native women in particular are most often not treated as being the same as similar crimes against whites, and not just in Canada but the US as well. Race or ethnicity - or gender or income level for that matter - should make no difference...a crime is a crime is a crime and everyone deserves equal protection under the law just as offenders deserve equal consequences under the law.

    And for those who deem these women deserving of what they got - nice arm-chair quarterbacking there. Just where have y'all been when these women and girls needed help or some mentoring to help them make better choices? The level of any society's civilization is judged by how well it treats its weakest members. Social Darwinism - the strong using, exploiting, and discarding/exterminating the weak - is NOT how a higher civilzation operates.

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    #2.8 - Sat Feb 2, 2013 10:50 AM EST

    Allison, you are WAY OFF BASE.

    The actual truth for why many women going missing are not investigated is because THOUSANDS of natives go missing seasonally out of Vancouver on a regular basis. These natives all own land across Canada in reserves that even the national police force (RCMP) are not allowed to enter. On a REGULAR BASIS these natives receive regular government checks and as soon as the weather warms they migrate across Canada without even telling their own families. Of course their drinking friends in Vancouver report them missing and expect the local police to find them immediately; yet before winter starts again they all return to warm Vancouver for the winter. This is a situation created by the Native community themselves, they don't keep tabs on even their own family members then when someone actually goes missing they expect the police to be able to identify one out of thousands that leave regularly without a word.

    • 2 votes
    #2.9 - Fri Feb 8, 2013 5:41 AM EST

    @paidmyfee: Those women killed by Pickton didn't deserve to die as they, no matter what their employment was. He disemboweled some, hacked some {possibly alive}, fed their bodies to his pigs, injected them with windshield washer fluid.

    I have researched these Canadian killings for several yrs. They are by far the most gruesome.

    • 1 vote
    #2.10 - Sat Feb 9, 2013 2:34 AM EST

    @Ken Trout: Despite Native aborginal Canadian seasonal movements, that is no justification for failure to investigate the disappearance of all these missing native women, along the same roads and in the same areas. And for that matter, for so many years.

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    #2.11 - Sat Feb 9, 2013 2:40 AM EST

    Unfortunately, Native women seemed to me to have a much higher propensity to drink and do drugs from what I saw in Alaska in 1972 to 1974. That could account for the higher rate of murder for them since the are exposed to much more risk.

    Also, the one girl I knew well, I couldn't keep track of her. She was always between Nome, Fairbanks and Anchorage and a few small villages in between. Her family and I never had a clue where she'd pop up next. This would make it difficult for the authorities to investigate. Especially when you have uncooperative Native authorities also.

    That bein said, animals who commit or are suspected of commitin heinous crimes should be intensively interrogated. I have been enhanced and water boarded and am still here, these animals deserve no less.

    Peace Out.

      #2.12 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:21 PM EST

      Amanda

      You missed the entire point of the problem. It would take the ENTIRE BC police force and full time work to keep track when every native decides to disappear across Canada. IT CAN'T BE DONE! Its because thousands go missing by choice regularly, why should it be police responsibility to baby sit when they refuse to look after themselves? Tell me, how will they know WHICH missing person to investigate when 400 in 1 week disappeared without a word to anyone on a regular basis, ever hear the story Never Cry Wolf? It would by like me asking why NASA doesn't investigate every single crackpot that claims they saw a UFO, its an identical problem.

        #2.13 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:27 AM EST
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        paidmyfee Hummmmmmmmmm ... You sound like a "Dexter" fantasy supporter!

        To believe another human deserves to be murdered for their "behavior" or being a woman alone on the road is most disturbing ... If I was investigating any serial murders .... you'd be at least on my "look at" list!

        Seek help ... your disturbed!

        • 22 votes
        Reply#3 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:22 PM EST

        Where in paidmyfees statement do they mention that they believe these people deserve to be murdered for their behavior?

        Paidmyfees made the suggestion that high risk behavior has high risk consequences, so don't be surprised when something happens. They also advised that perhaps individuals who engage in high risk behavior might be better off not doing that type of behavior. What a novel thought...

        • 7 votes
        #3.1 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:11 PM EST

        right, because the choices are that simple.

        Too bad the reasons that got them there aren't. I don't disagree with the underlying concept - "don't do things that put you in harms way" - however for most of us, that is a fantasy. If it wasn't, then there wouldn't be drunk drivers, crack heads, smokers, and a host of other lifestyle choices that do more harm than good.... and while you could stand on a soap box telling people how to live their lives, until you actually live their life, maybe ya should just zip it? Do you think the sex trade workers wake up each day looking forward to rutting with some sweaty dude? Do you think the crack head is in love with his or her life... enjoys the many degrading things one may have to do to support such a habit?

        • 6 votes
        #3.2 - Fri Feb 1, 2013 11:26 AM EST

        @Why is stupidity the norm?: Paidmyfee implied that people who do bad things should have bad consequences and they deserve what they get.

        I agree with Soviet Canuckistan, it's not so simple. Things happen to people, and they make bad choices, but that doesn't always mean they deserve bad consequences, certainly not to be murdered as Pickton murdered all those women.

        • 1 vote
        #3.3 - Sat Feb 9, 2013 2:48 AM EST
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        "compelling information" pointing to Pickton: tales of bloody clothes and of a woman's body suspended in his barn.

        Hmmm. Nothin here out of the ordinary.

        • 10 votes
        Reply#4 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:08 PM EST

        No kidding. They found a woman's body suspend in his barn and did NOTHING! That is beyond incomprehensible.

        And paidmyfee, be careful, if you have a daughter (lord I pray it isn't so) she could get hooked on drugs and end up haning in that guy's barn.

        And why are there so many aboriginies in Canada. I thought their native country was Australia? Not that it matters, I was just curious about it.

        • 5 votes
        #4.1 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:30 PM EST

        Aborigine is also used in place of indigenous or native. Dictionaries can be very useful.

        Predators exist everywhere. None of us is immune. Even the mostly matronly of grandmothers has been the victim of a vicious killer somewhere. It makes no difference if the victim is a streetwalker or a nun, violent people do violent things.

        Many sympathies to the families of the lost. It must be incredibly painful and disheartening to lose someone so unnecessarily.

        • 8 votes
        #4.2 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:45 PM EST

        I had to read that twice. It doesn't say they FOUND a body or bloody clothes, only that there were stories they existed. Poorly written.

        • 4 votes
        #4.3 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:40 PM EST

        Actually, they're not aboriginies here in Canada, they're First Nations peoples. In spite of what the article would have you believe, not all the women in the Pickton case were of First Nations descent. The same applies to the murdered and missing women in the North, on The Highway of Tears. FYI, just because someone may be an addict and live a transient lifestyle, it does not automatically make them a prostitute. Linda, the woman who first came forward with the evidence and information about the first of the missing women was herself dismissed, written off as a drug addict and a prostitute, therefore not worthy of being heard or believed. Ultimately, everything she initially told police, including having witnessed a victim hanging from a meat hook in the barn, turned out to be true.

        I live in the province where Pickton was, and where the murders along the Highway of Tears continue to happen. The entire thing was mishandled from the beginning. The RCMP and local law enforcement knew women were going missing, they knew it had something to do with the Pickton farm, yet they did nothing. When missing persons reports were filed by the families, nothing, absolutely nothing was done. Instead the families were given one excuse after another. Please don't think for a minute that the residents of this province, or this country for that matter, aren't embarrassed and outraged by how this whole mess was handled. 65 separate DNA samples were identified. Most of these murders did not have to happen. They were preventable.

        Just like they know, or have a strong idea of who the serial killer in the north is. The communities up there are small. The women were either walking along the highway or hitchhiking. It it is firmly believed to be someone local, someone you'd feel safe getting into a vehicle with. All of this has been brought to the RCMP. Still, like with Pickton, they do nothing. The similiarities between these cases are especially sad in the knowing it's the media attention that will embarrass the RCMP into actually doing something. Until then though, how many other women will lose their lives along that Highway of Tears?

        • 11 votes
        #4.4 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:42 PM EST

        HerRoyalGrooviness,Thank you for shedding more light on this article.It is positively gruesome to think that law enforcement anywhere in the world would turn a blind eye to a serial killer.None of these women deserved this addict or otherwise.I hope that the highway serial killer is caught soon.It is too bad there is no death penalty.

        • 6 votes
        #4.5 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:56 PM EST

        @Her Royal Grooviness: I emailed with some support workers for the Edmonton sex trade workers the yr before the Pickton trial and afterwards. I was very familiar with the situation up there. For a time, we thought a forum online stalker, who had too much info about the cases, had something to do with the murders.

          #4.6 - Sat Feb 9, 2013 2:55 AM EST
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          Some of these women have gotten trapped into this type of life. They were abused as children...run away...have no other way to support themselves except by prostitution...some then get hooked up with pimps who get them hooked on drugs...have to keep hooking to keep getting their fix...vicious cycle. Think before you open your mouth next time, paidmyfee!!

          • 17 votes
          Reply#5 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:15 PM EST

          Translation: Bad choices (with bad results) are excused by bad circumstances.

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          #5.1 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:50 PM EST

          FIXED:

          Translation: Bad choices (with bad results) are often the result of bad circumstances.

          • 6 votes
          #5.2 - Fri Feb 1, 2013 11:31 AM EST

          @Peter Jenkins from WA: Exactly. Some people fail to acquire the social skills, academic skills, etc, to advance in the world because their upbringing failed them.

            #5.3 - Sat Feb 9, 2013 2:59 AM EST
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            No one deserved to die at the hands of a serial killer. These women were treated horrendously. No matter their lifestyle or how it happened they still had mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers who loved them the same way any of us do. :-(

            • 12 votes
            Reply#6 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:14 PM EST

            Warren, Canadians appear to be overly aggressive and vindictive from an Americans point of view. :-)

            This stupid comment from a man whose country is descending into chaos. Someone just told me in another post that I was a silly twit. Well, you know what - at least WE DON'T SHOOT anything that moves.

            Pickton was a dangerous man just as Bernardo was or Magnotta is. It happens!

            • 2 votes
            Reply#7 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:39 PM EST

            Relax Quebec canada,

            It's pretty obvious warrren's comment is sarcastic.

            • 3 votes
            #7.1 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:13 PM EST

            Quebec -

            According to UN and European Commission, Canada has a violent crime rate of 935 per 100K population. The US has a rate of 466 per 100K. And the US is sinking into chaos?

            Maybe it is your supercilious, and totally unwarranted, attitude that caused you to be labled a silly twit?

            • 2 votes
            #7.2 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:49 PM EST

            Maybe you overlooked the stat's about how many of those violent crimes resulted in death in Canada?

            Stats are great... taken out of context they are as accurate a portrayal of reality as the bible is a portrayal of history.

            • 2 votes
            #7.3 - Fri Feb 1, 2013 11:33 AM EST
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            There are too many monsters in the world. One is too many, but we have thousands.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#8 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:52 PM EST

            One of the more ugly similarities between Canada and the U S is that we both have serial killers and everyone wants to somehow blame, at least partially, the victims! Yes, drugs and the sexual trade are not the preferred professions but that should not be a death sentence. Let's at least put the blame and the damnation where it belongs.

            • 7 votes
            Reply#9 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:00 PM EST

            There are serial killers in every country. I'm sorry to tell you that it is not unique to the US and Canada.

            • 4 votes
            #9.1 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:32 PM EST

            Similarities? Name a country that doesn't have serial killers, sexual predators or drug abusers.

            • 1 vote
            #9.2 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:52 PM EST

            @Bill Horn: Yes, the killing belongs to the killer, serial or not. Pickton was one of the worse, he's suspected of at least 60+ murders. One of his cohorts gave that estimates, also the clothing + personal items found on his property suggest that many. After his pigs ate some of the human remains, he ground up the rest and took them to a rendering plant in Edmonton. A rendering plant can use animal by-products for many things, or it was believed that human flesh may have been ground and delivered as pig meat for sausages.

              #9.3 - Sat Feb 9, 2013 3:07 AM EST
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              DaVinci's Inquest, put that guy on it, he had the right idea - that was filmed almost ten years ago and aimed at this very thing but they are just now officially acknowledging it was badly handled? YIKES. I am with the folks here who maintain that these are human beings and deserved better, and at that they were oppressed human beings that deserved help, understanding, maybe some better opportunities before they got to that point. In some cases it is the failure of the person involved who gets involved in this sort of life, but overwhelmingly MORE often it is the failure of our social and mental health systems to prevent them reaching this point...you can bet if this killer was picking off CEOs or cops he'd have been caught, drawn and quartered by now. We throw people away in our societies today the way we throw out everything else - any flaws and out it goes. NOBODY fixes anything any more, not even precious human beings.

              • 5 votes
              Reply#10 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:02 PM EST

              Ahh yes, the Pickton farms. BC is a beautiful province and great for a vacations spot. If you go for breakfast, though, don't order it with sausage...

              • 4 votes
              Reply#11 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:46 PM EST

              Nobody to blame except the one doing the murders, not the victims. Unfortunately, certain places and occupations tend to be riskier than others. No one should ever, ever be murdered. No matter who you are or what you do it doesn't make it any less painful and horrible.

              • 4 votes
              Reply#12 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:51 PM EST

              It is easy to accuse the victims here for some reason. regardless of the life style no one desrves to die this way. It seems the communities aren't willing to provide the police protection needed to stop this. just like with Pckton they give up to easily becasue of the nature of the women. If this were happening in down town Vancover the problem would be solved quickly. It is always abou the money!

              • 1 vote
              Reply#13 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:59 PM EST

              Why do you hate me?

              • 1 vote
              #13.1 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:11 PM EST

              It's easy for a certain type of person to blame the victims- I figure it's generallly miserable people who hate their own lousy lives and need to feeel superior to someone - anyone.

              • 1 vote
              #13.2 - Sat Feb 2, 2013 10:03 AM EST

              ihateliberals, most of those communities lack the funds to pay for police protection. We're talking about poor, mostly rural areas, dude. Not much of a tax base to draw the funding from. One reason local, state, and the federal government collect taxes is to spread funds out more evenly to pay for schools, police & fire, roads, and other services. That IS the original function of the government, seeing to the public good, but when politicians start cutting those services to give more money and tax-breaks to fat-cat corporations who are already making money hand-over-fist, they undermine the public good and leave ordinary citizens without protection or justice.

              • 2 votes
              #13.3 - Sat Feb 2, 2013 11:01 AM EST

              Pickton threw parties with sex trade workers for bigwigs from the local area,that cops knew about. So it was about money+ power that these crimes weren't investigated properly.

                #13.4 - Sat Feb 9, 2013 3:11 AM EST
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                It doesn't matter what they were doing. No one deserves to be killed because of some sick SOB's hang ups.

                • 4 votes
                Reply#14 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:10 PM EST

                It's just my impression that although the murder rate in Canada is very low they do seem to have some really grizzly serial crimes every once in a while, as for all you jerks who think that just because some of the victims had a rough life does not mean they are any less valuable, the hurt is just as real to the families of the victims, here in the US we are so numbed by violence that unless it's a classroom full of 5 yr olds it barely makes a dent in our shallow excuse for consciousnesses.

                Homicide Squad Motto: Either EVERYBODY counts or NOBODY counts !! my prayers go out to these families and may they catch this monster soon.

                • 4 votes
                Reply#15 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:36 PM EST

                "Aboriginal women are disproportionately likely to be murdered in Canada, and they were overrepresented among Pickton's suspected victims."

                What a boneheaded statement. Next all of the minority groups will be getting together and saying that Pickton was racist and should have killed more women of other races - equal treatment.

                It is not uncommon for serial killers to either have a preference and/or simply go for the easiest pickings. But yet the writer had to make it about race on the part of the killer.

                The only 'racist' thing here is the appalling lack of action on the part of the police despite all of the evidence. Because they were hookers or drug addicts.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#16 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:39 PM EST

                Lynda, wait until you yourself are the victim of a crime and then have to hear the police tell you that because of your ethnicity, they aren't going to prosecute you. It happened to me back when I was 18. I don't drink, party, am not nor have I ever been a prostitute, but I am Native American. My attackers were white and they chose to assault and rape me because of my race -and they said so during the attack. After they left me for dead out in the boonies, I managed to crawl over half a mile on my hands and knees to the highway and was damned lucky that someone saw me and stopped,and took me to the nearest hospital. When the police came and started taking my statement, the moment I identified myself as Native (I'm light-complected so most folks can't tell right off) and my assailants as white, they refused to do anything. One officer even said the next time, he'd help them finish me off. I couldn't get anyone, not even the FBI, to take up me case. Instead I got threats to my life and harrassment.

                To this day I have not gotten justice and probably won't until Judgment Day. So yeah, there are race-based crimes and people who will victimize people based on their race/ethnicity or gender. It shouldn't exist but it does and will continue until people start looking at each other as human beings standing equal with one another, instead of the "us and them" mentality.

                • 3 votes
                #16.1 - Sat Feb 2, 2013 11:14 AM EST

                @Allison Shaw: I applaud your courage to disclose your own experience, however, I'm sorry this happened to you and that you never got justice for your attack.

                  #16.2 - Sat Feb 9, 2013 3:16 AM EST
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                  canadien oui oui. Changing RIM to blackberry without current permission from the founder is a form of theft in the ways of robinhood. Simply having blind faith in the catholic Pope to deliver justice in puerto rico is also a form of serious flaw of a canadian. Rejecting a direct order to partake in the Catholic Pope's criminal spree with holy rich people from europe in the style of robinhood for justice another count for badass.

                  No matter the excuses, the decision factor to happen decades later is a matter of theft now. The the serial killer of toronto(?) is a white boy canadien oui oui.

                    Reply#17 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:06 PM EST

                    What the hell is wrong with you? Google a map, BC is on the other side of the country, quite a ways away from both Ontario (that's where Toronto is) and Quebec.

                    • 1 vote
                    #17.1 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:53 PM EST

                    HerRoyalGrooviness, vancouver is the tip of the iceberg for serial killers working in canada, otherwise him the rich chinese would of not be offended by canadiens. So, when the pope make public accusation in 1994, canadian use serial killers as grounds to extract money from him the rich chinese. They went public with interpol to help the pope. They said they worked via police out that it is not a whiteboy canadien, they sent team to tell me that, their assassin the swiss did not acknowledge his presence in puerto rico. oui oui.

                    were you there? I knoweth british intelligence guide or hiding behind canadiens. tsk tsk.

                      #17.2 - Fri Feb 1, 2013 4:13 PM EST

                      @jujubefruit: You talk in riddles. Speak plainly or don't speak such nonsense at all.

                      • 1 vote
                      #17.3 - Sat Feb 9, 2013 3:18 AM EST
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                      Paidmyfee mentioned church. That should be enough said right there. Anybody close-minded enough to think that everybody should belong in an equally close-minded system of worship will never be convinced that there is anything but HIS religion and HIS views. Ever try to discuss alternate viewpoints with a blindly ignorant, devoutly religious prick?

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#18 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:20 PM EST

                      In fact I have. Gave it up. In a system where rationally questioning the basis of your beliefs is proof of sinful disloyalty to your creator, you'll get nowhere. Waste of time to try. Maybe when Jesus still hasn't returned in another thousand years people will wake up.

                      • 2 votes
                      #18.1 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:41 PM EST

                      Well, Ignorance, if you started the discussion off with "blindly ignorant prick," I can see where you would have struggled.

                      You and Brinkhoff can best be described as deiphobes. Shall we chat?

                      • 1 vote
                      #18.2 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:59 PM EST
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                      I read somewhere that at any given time that there are approximately 100 serial killers in the US alone. I don't know if that is accurate or not. But, it is chilling. What is wrong with our society?

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#19 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:13 PM EST

                      If you do the math, you will see that that represents an infitesimally small peercentage of the popuulation, as scary as it is.

                      Is it the fault of society, or is it just that 1 out of 33,000,000 people is just incredibly mis-wired?

                      That is posed as a serious question. Some above have indicated that we should be abled to weed out those who are so depraved. We have 794,300 LEO's in this country. If they did absolutely nothing else but hunt serial killers, how long do you think it would take them to find the first? I would think a while.

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                      #19.1 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:05 PM EST

                      Actually, the statistic I have heard from the book, "The Sociopath Next Door" is that 1 in 25 or 4 in 100 people in any given society is a sociopath with absolutely no conscious. Now, because people have different motivations, they are not all serial killers. Some are just your jerky neighbor that always has to be the a-hole and do things to irritate everyone else. Some are the scam artists that can rip off the elderly and handicapped. Some are your a-hole coworkers or bosses that can and will do anything to get ahead. Surprisingly, there are not that many more people in prison that are sociopaths than in the general population. I used to get enraged at some of the people I would see on the news and the horrible things they did. Now I just shake my head and go, "there's one." I also do it at work....

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                      #19.2 - Sat Feb 2, 2013 1:11 AM EST

                      @mpa-4893349: In the news the other day, a German neurologist {I'm pretty sure it was} has found a portion of the brain that lacks the ability to control behavior to social norms {follow rules}.

                        #19.3 - Sat Feb 9, 2013 3:24 AM EST
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                        Sad cases.. Hopefully the cops pull it together, and catch the creeps out there killing. The Pickton case was bad.

                          Reply#20 - Fri Feb 1, 2013 3:21 AM EST

                          It is good to see that most of you disagree with paidmyfee, this type of belief has a name, its called blaming the victim. Bases on narrow values and beliefs, usually developed because of over bearing/over righteous/authoritarian parents.

                          Now for the real story, it is a very sad thing that nothing was done for so long and so many were killed. Even worse is the fact that yes even Canada has predjudice, it would seem that the low economic status, lifestyles and their ethnic decent all played a part in them being brushed aside by many. Kudos to the police who actually did their job and broached the subject of a serial killer.. I am not shocked that rumors of hanging bodies and bloody clothes came about, as this killer was allowed his freedom, he got sloppy thus even the useless among the police could follow the dots...

                          So one last word.. POLICE in Canada, get off the stick, you have been highlighted as incompetent, now is the time to fix that and put an end to the "highway of tears" good thing to know.. I often wanted to visit Canada and now know at least two places to avoid like the plague.

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                          Reply#21 - Fri Feb 1, 2013 3:22 AM EST

                          I was reading world news when I came across this article. I was surprised something like this happens in Canada...generally believed to be a more peaceful and safe place than the US. But when I looked at violent crime rates I was shocked to find that Canada has only a slightly less number of violent crimes than the US...though the US rates have fallen in the last ten years or so. And many parts of Central Canada, between British Columbia and Quebec, are just like the Midwest...with isolated, remote and spread out places offering ample opportunities for serial killers, rapists, predators and perverts to operate covertly, effectively, and dispose off bodies and evidence easily. Maybe Canadians don't carry guns and use them during moments of passion...but there are enough Canadians, almost all White boys, who have obsession with torture, perversions and death just like in the US. This is something Canadians don't talk about...or don't like to talk about.

                          I also find it strange that almost 90% of immigrants and people of color in Canada live primarily in the VTM area (Vancouver-Toronto-Montreal area). Why don't they move elsewhere? Many told me that they don't feel comfortable outside the cities. Remoteness of many places and poor policing in Canada offers these deadly criminals and psychopaths plenty of protection. Police to people ratio is shockingly low in Canada...lower than Sweden and Japan (where crime rates are lower than Canada). In some places police are so few local people do a lot of voluntary policing (and carry no guns) in Canada.

                          With unemployment high and budget cuts to vital community services looming it is probably a good time to send some good American police officers to Canada through some kind of cross-national and cross-border agreement.

                          Canada has higher property crimes than the US...including car thefts and petty vandalism. In the US people can get shot for this as many carry concealed weapons or have guns in their homes.

                          There is discrimination against people of color and First Nation people in Canada, especially outside its cities and certain neighborhoods...though far less than the US. Canada is probably lagging behind in policing and forensic investigations because they have held this "idealistic view that they are all peaceful and not as psychopathic as Americans". When it comes to violent crimes, or psycho crimes, they are not that different (though violent crimes in the US has fallen). I was shocked to find that out. Status of the First Nation people might be better than Native Americans in the US...but it is not that much better.

                          I see an interesting Canadian detective or suspense film or a book on this issue emerging. I hope they find those awful criminals on the highway. Sounds so scary...though the Canadian landscape is one of the most beautiful.

                          Why are so many men in North America such awful jerks? Any study on their genetics or neurology? Is this the reason why so many women remain single or become lesbians...and more women are carrying guns? What is wrong with so many of you men today? Maybe women need their own country or army or something! :))

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                          Reply#22 - Fri Feb 1, 2013 6:07 AM EST

                          Dear Friends:

                          How can the concious of the Canadians live with themselves? Are they that prejudice about woman and or is it race?

                          There is a psychology to this. The place was a pig farm! Pigs roll and wollow in the mud!

                          And he lives and is fed and bedded down and cared for by men and woman in a place of protected justice!

                          God forgive them for they know not what they have done!

                          And can he get out for good behavior after a period of time? God Almighty have no mercy! Amen.

                          Like the man in the hole with the kidnapped child in the USA.

                          Dear Friends:

                          This is for our government and you! How to win a war against the USA? Take a child into the bunker!

                          For God sake! Any Dentist knows how to put a person to sleep that pulls wisdom teeth! Get rid of the S O B! sob! sob! Use a needle the way the African Warrior does! Put the guy out and get the child out! He is sexually and psychologically abusing this child while the news writes and the public and world watch. Obama has no clue. This could occur and have more deaths than machine guns. Impeach!

                          Next time invite me to the Inauguaral Ball! This guy is having a party and making a mochery of the Government and police. God Almighty Help us! Amen.

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                          Reply#23 - Sat Feb 2, 2013 4:50 PM EST

                          Dear Friends:

                          He will see how many more birthdays? Do they celebrate them in the Prisons of Canada?

                          Oh my God!

                          What a pig!

                            Reply#24 - Sat Feb 2, 2013 4:52 PM EST

                            Squeaky clean Canada is no different than every other society in the world. They won't come right out and say it, but the "thinking" is that because these victims were impoverished and most probably uneducated and unemployed, nobody -- not even their government -- gave a damn whether they lived or died. If you're not contributing to society, you don't exist. It's the same right here at home in the good old U.S. of A., where we grew up being preached to that all of us are important and equal . . . but not really. It's an illusion/delusion.

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                            Reply#25 - Sun Feb 3, 2013 11:47 AM EST
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