That's the snag with a theocracy - they must be right, Allah says so. What is there to negotiate, especially with the Great Satan?

When your being sanctioned you play games, what can I say, let them whine..

Iran has nothing to gain with those talks, without a enemy to rally their people against Irans govt will start to look more and more like a corrupt dictatorship to its people. Reinforcing the sanctions against Iran is our best hope of stopping this govt, without large sums of oil money their influence and hold on power should decrease.

"Iran's supreme leader on Thursday rejected an offer of direct talks made by Vice President Joe Biden this week, saying they would not solve the problems between them, Iranian media reported."

Nothing surprising here. This is in keeping with the Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement:

ArticleThirteen:

"Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement."

See: "Avalon Project: Hamas Covenant 1988," Yale University School of Law for more information.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

Ayatolla @ssaholla number 2. They want a nuclear bomb and there is no talking them out of it. Time to end the games and drop the hammer.......

Instead of Biden mentioning talks with Iran, he ought to stand up to the Iranian leaders and say "Hey, STAY IN THE THIRD WORLD THEN" - then walk away. Grow a pair!

Pointless?

Obviously, they think they are far enough on their nuclear program that no more delay is needed OR they think they have their stuff secure enough an attack won't matter.

I really wish that Khamenei would draw a distinction between "US government foreign policy" and "Americans" as individuals. I don't believe they should have nuclear weapons but our foreign policy is such that we only tend to respect countries that have them. Pakistan is a good example. The rest we don't seem to care about their sovereignty. In that sense, my government does not represent me as an American.

No problem, let the drones do the talking.

Semper Fi

I wonder if the Iranians knew that any attack would not just target their nuclear research and arms facilities, but would encompass all areas of their infrastructure, would that make a difference. I wonder if Biden had just said enough, if you want nuclear weapons so badly we fly some over for you. The problem is that they talk smack all the time and we respond with efforts to apply more sanctions. Maybe it's time to send the message that it's getting close to game time and the lesson we learned in Iraq and Afghanistan is that we will not occupy any more countries, we'll simply eradicate them so their is nothing left to occupy. Any oil contributed to the world market by these ass clowns is burned up in military use anyway.....it's been long enough, you only put up with cockroaches so long before you call the exterminator.

@ORB - I think you've got that all wrong. I think Iran will wipe Israel off the map (finally) and then the US will have no more reason to involve ourselves in Middle Eastern politics. Continuing a fight with Iran after the fact won't bring Israel back. So we let the Arab world have their section of the planet and worry about our own. Balance our budget and take care of our people. Sounds like a good solution to me.

HEY BIDEN!

If you have internet access you can pull up this QUOTE from Ayatollah Khomeini. What you and that DIM WIT president dont seem to understand is the one and only goal of ISLAM! They dont make it a secret, its splattered all over the Koran and the Hidith!

__________WORLD DOMINATION BY THE SWORD! Which means never ending war!________

Until the entire globe is ruled by ISLAM and SHARIAH LAW!

Now. Get your Justice Department out and see how many more Mosques you can defend and build as many of those ISLAMIC ARMY BARRACKS as you can!

Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini

"Those who know nothing about Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those people are witless. Islam says: 'Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all!' Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by the infidel? Islam says: 'Kill them, put them to the sword and scatter them.' Islam says:

'Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword.' The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for the Holy Warriors! Does all this mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim."

elise, from what I hear, Israel could do some map wiping of its own.

@elisem 1896

A boatload of jihaddist bullsh*t and blather will never overcome Israels estimated 200 nukes. I think you have it all wrong.

Uh okay then Ali we'll get back to you.......General....warm up the BUFFS.......

Iran has absolutely no reason to talk to this Administration. We are already in a proxy war with them via our actions of the Arab Spring. American finances the ideological faction in the overthrow of these countries (Egypt, Libya, Syria etc.) and Iran arms the rebels who are more than willing to fight and die. It seems based on the installation of the Muslim Brotherhood throughout the region Iran is winning the proxy war. They have no reason to talk to America and every reason to continue their nuclear ambitions with longer and longer range rockets.

So for those of you who see nothing wrong with Obama's foreign policy and who are still beating the Bush administration with the stick, my question to you would be....If Bush was so aweful as a President and his foreign policy was to you criminal or just wrong on every level then why do you insist that Obama has it right? What Obama has done is taken Bush policy and gone underground promoting proxy wars in multiple locations in the Middle East and Africa. As an analogy he seems to have given up the addiction of smoking and replaced it with covert drone strikes.

@Shovelface,

I agree with basically EVERYTHING that you said about the Religion of Piece(s) and Fright (Radical Islam).

I would give those Muslims that DON'T do harm to others (and are respectful of other beliefs) the benifit of the doubt IF they would just take a stand with us against the Radical Jihadi types (Wipe the Extremists from the face of the Earth)!

Then we need to take a long look at the Westboro Bastard Church, Terry Jones and his Ilk and others that cause harm regardless of which religion they CLAIM to represent (Actions NOT Words)

Iran knows US is not honest and impartial in those talks, being completely sold out to represent Israel's interests.

why on earth is it, that our Government does not understand; they are not interested in peaceful talks, they are not interested in anything western, there one and only interest is to convert the world to Islam and all laws and social conduct to be governed by the Koran(there version); there will be a showdown in the next couple of years, we had better be ready for a real Nuclear exchange, they believe they are on a mission from GOD, nothing short of annihilation will stop them in their mission!

Shovelface, I agree 100%. Plus now the administration is going to pass all of our classified information to the wholw world so they will know exactly where and when to hit us. There is no such thing as a moderate muslim.

1979 when the Shah was in power $ 1.00 US equals $ 70.00 Rials (Iranian Dollars)

2013 .......................................... $1.00 US equals $ 12,265 Rials (and we are in a serious recession)

"If you've got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow" Teddy Roosevelt

I do not think it will be very much longer before there is a revolution in Iran. You would see a revolt here in the USA if a loaf of bread costs $24.00 and you earn $100 a week.

The time has long since come for Iran to end it's existance on the face of the earth. Every man woman and child in Iran should be obliterated. All we're doing with diplomacy is allowing them time to become stronger and more dangerous. End Iran and you will end all Middle East troubles.

I never thought people could come up with so many weasel-worded ways to say, "Nuke 'em" I guess that's progress as most people realize that is not reallly a solution and just makes them look dumb for suggesting it.

john writes:

I don't believe they should have nuclear weapons but our foreign policy is such that we only tend to respect countries that have them. Pakistan is a good example. The rest we don't seem to care about their sovereignty. In that sense, my government does not represent me as an American.

There's a problem with your theory. According to many people here on the Vine and elsewhere, America violates Pakistan's sovereignty on a regular basis with drone strikes galore on their soil. So if they have nukes (which they do), according to you there should be no such violations. How do you square that up?

Pakistan allows them. I honestly believe that if they didn't have nukes we would have gone in on the ground to wipe out their extremists.

Biden's statement had nothing to do with Khomeini. Khomeini was going to rebuff it, and everyone knew it. But remember that Iranian elections are coming this summer. What Biden was doing was speaking to the Iranian people, who right now are suffering through a hamstrung economy. "We're ready to talk," Biden was saying, "if you are. Your government doesn't want to. Why not elect someone new?"

It's a cheap shot against Ahmadinejad, and it might actually help motivate the moderate Iranians. I hope it works.

I honestly believe that if they didn't have nukes we would have gone in on the ground to wipe out their extremists.

You mean like we did with bin-Laden?

Pakistan allows them.

One wouldn't think so the way they fulminate about U.S. 'violations of Pakistani sovereignty' after every strike. One could argue that's just for domestic consumption but it's pretty clear that there is at least a lot of conflict within Pakistani government and military circles about drone strikes. Some may have tolerance or approval of them but others certainly do not.

Reading all the comments here it looks like Americas attitude toward the middle east hasn't changed.

And that is like a dogs way of thinking that if you cannot eat than either pis* on it ot f*ck it.

This whole Iranian mess was created by the CIA in what 1953 when they installed the Shah and kicked out Mosaddegh.

US keep yout dog Israel on a lease before the body bags with US soldiers come home.

Xaziol

Instead of Biden mentioning talks with Iran, he ought to stand up to the Iranian leaders and say "Hey, STAY IN THE THIRD WORLD THEN" - then walk away. Grow a pair!

OK...time to take a cold shower big boy. Now that you've sprayed testosterone all over your walls here's a hint...that's not how the big people play. The big people speak softly and carry a big stick and this administration carries the biggest stick on earth. But go ahead and talk tough like the North Koreans...after all, they're pretty impressive, right?

This whole Iranian mess was created by the CIA in what 1953 when they installed the Shah and kicked out Mosaddegh

I'm sick of this being brought up. And Japanese-American relations were destroyed in 1941 at Pearl Harbor, right? Guess we'll never be friends with them either.

Times change. What happened in the past happened, but thinking we can't have a rational talk with a country because of something that happened 60 years ago is absurd. We made the mess, sure - should we just ignore it now?

Ayatollah Khamenei has a busy schedule.

Sitting on your a$$ dictating in your pajamas all day is tough work.

Besides, screw Iran! A society that has to be told what to think, dress, work and worship will never rise to the level that nations of free thinkers can. They have to steal everything to get it...including technology.

Oh no, an Iranian rebuke of the hand of "Peace" extended by Mr. Obama.

No Nobel Peace Prize for this one. As Mrs Clinton would say: "Time to Move On."

So, Uncle Joe gets bitch-slapped by the ayatollah kockamamie....But not to worry....

New SOS John " I have 3 Purple Hearts and the 3 Band-Aids to prove it" Kerry is on the case now...

Next thing you'll hear is that we're pulling one of our Carrier Groups out of the region....

Ol_Doc,

I like your style.

You don't need a big mouth if you have a big stick! Literally and pun intended...lol

Thank you for someone speaking like an adult. There is a Shia Super State in the gulf due to our unintended consquences of the Iraq war. For every action there will be a reaction, it is physics. Every little quote you bring up that some nut said or is in the koran is just like something said during the Cold War. Us or them will collapse from within in the next 20 years. We can do it by spending ourselves broke on foreign adventures or they can. They are not a threat for us, we can blow up the world if we want, and Israel can put its big boy pants on and deal with them themselves only this time we don't step in and stop the war. Let it be fought to a conclusion and then there will be peace but we stay out and start rebuilding the US or it will be us that collapses.

OlDoc- He didn't talk tough, he just made a decision on to talk to Biden. Most of the tough talk comes from Israel and the Zionists, in Israel and in the United States. Biden, himself has declared he is a Zionist, perhaps that is why the Ayatollah doesn't want to bother talking to him.

It is the US that has continually said we "will take no options off the table". We are the ones displaying our naval power, by floating our ships all over the Persian Gulf. Just last week, while grilling Chuck Hagel, some of our Congressmen mentioned Israel and Iran over 100 times each, which shows they are in lock step with Israel. Israel has made no secret they want Iran's nuclear facilities bombed by America. Israel, while it has the means to do the job itself, doesn't have the will, especially when they feel they can convince stupid Americans to do the fighting for them. Guys like the fool Zionists on this forum fit the bill, at least with their posts. More than likely, they are Zionist chicken hawks, typing madly at their keyboards, like Charles Krauthammer of the Zionist media, pushing for another war for Israel.

yeahbuhwha, I hope it works also. I had no idea election time was nearing in Iran again. I guess we have to get used to seeing people being beaten and killed all over again like last time. What a douche Govt. they really have.

The Chuckster-2840003 ...(#1.40)..."yeahbuhwha, I hope it works also. I had no idea election time was nearing in Iran again. I guess we have to get used to seeing people being beaten and killed all over again like last time. What a douche Govt. they really have."

yeahbuhwha? ...(#1.28).."Biden's statement had nothing to do with Khomeini. Khomeini was going to rebuff it, and everyone knew it. But remember that Iranian elections are coming this summer. What Biden was doing was speaking to the Iranian people, who right now are suffering through a hamstrung economy. "We're ready to talk," Biden was saying, "if you are. Your government doesn't want to. Why not elect someone new?"

It's a cheap shot against Ahmadinejad, and it might actually help motivate the moderate Iranians. I hope it works."

That's a laugh, considering that when the Iranian "Green Revolution"(2009) was in High Gear, Millions were marching in Tehran....they turned to P.0bama for help, but he was too busy on his Apology Tour to make waves with AchmaImanutjob in Iran...The Silence was deafening....

Why would they trust us now ??? They see that we are Arming the Mooslim Brotherhood in Egypt and telling Israel to take a hike.....

Fanatical Iranian Ralph -

STOP spinning your wheels and spewing lies. This is about filthy ayatolah murderers rejecting talks with US, even four years ago when Obama offered peace, your ahmadinejad and other pedophile monkeys rejected it out of hand. That is not Israel's problem, it is YOUR problem.

@john-737278 - I kind of agree with you. Nothing will come of it as long as the governments are involved. If we could have direct talks between citizens I think something good could come from it.

Of course the governments would never allow such a thing...

farideh k . don't forget that you are from the same end of the wood. you talk about rejecting talk with u.s like they mean it. don't get me wrong I am all for a democratic regime in iran, but the path that is chosen will not bring democracy to iran and if you think that the u.s and the west are looking for a democratic government in iran, you are dreaming. you know the hx of iran and mossadegh and I don't have to explain that to you. the only thing that west is intersted is a government that can gaurantee them the unconditional flow of the oil. 3 years ago when obama submited his proposal and turkey and brazil mediated that, the iranian accepted the proposal, but obama rejected his own proposal. and you don't come a day after you propose a peace talk and sign more sanction on iran. what kind of peace talk is that. a democratic government in iran can only be accomplished by people in Iran and w/ these sanctions people can't even breath forget about going about to bring democracy. and yet there are also those who believe that this government is a stooge of uk and israel and these are all a staged show since with more threat they all benefit the most. so come down of your high horse and see the things the way they are. and one more thing to remind you , check out the great persian famine so you could see the massacre that the british imposed on iranian which starved 10 million people to death. I hope you look at things from an unbiased view and prejudice. the more people are put under these sanctions, the less a chance of a democracy in iran and that is what the intention is here.

basil romeo how is the weather in israel and where is your partner in crime kpr

THIS is why there needs to be a seperartion of church and state. Religious leaders try to brain wash everyone into thinking that they are the mouth of god and anything they say should never be questioned for fear of burning in he11 for eternity. You can not govern when you use the allmighty as your excuse for everything...this only leads to abuse of power. Just look at almost every high religious official that has been on the tv lately.

Adam44

I think you may misunderstand my intent. It would not matter to me one bit if we wiped the entire region off the map, including Israel because I view the world as over populated anyway.

The problem I have is the consistency of our foreign policy. Look at what we have done in the region.

We have helped in the downfall of governments of Egypt, Tunesia, Libya(didn't have nukes)

We basically wiped out what was Iraq.(didn't have nukes)

We don't get involved in Syria because their friend is Russia who has nukes.

We buy off Pakistan, who has nukes, for use of drones, airspace and caravans to Afghanistan, and at the same time put sanctions on their neighbor who really doesn't act any differently towards us.

It is the consistency that is making enemies. It is also that consistency that made an enemy out of Osama bin laden. Quite honestly, I believe the entire region views us as two-faced. If we made it known that it was our intention to kill all of them, at least it would be consistent.

That is the problem I have with our foreign policy.

That's a laugh, considering that when the Iranian "Green Revolution"(2009) was in High Gear, Millions were marching in Tehran....they turned to P.0bama for help, but he was too busy on his Apology Tour to make waves with AchmaImanutjob in Iran...The Silence was deafening....

Hmm. Interesting. I guess I'm just not up on my cultural idioms. I didn't realize that in Iran, "USA, Stay Away" and "Let us decide this for ourselves" are actually cries for help.

He's not the first person who thinks talking to biden is pointless.

Direct talks about what? WMDs? About WMDs they claim to not have and we have no evidence of existing either? I can see where he's coming from.

They can talk about Iran proving that they don't have the weapons they claim not to have, that is if they really don't have them.

We're being snobbed. Got to love it!

Israel can take care of itself. I wouldn't push this too far if I were Iran. Iran citizens rose up against the re-election of that idiot that runs their country and they will rise up again. The days of Persian empire are over Iran! Get over it! Darius the Great is long dead and Ahmadinejad, with his severe "short man's syndrome" cannot resurrect him! The people of Iran would be best served by getting rid of Ahmadinejad and joining the 21st century world.

Mike in Delray

So, Uncle Joe gets bitch-slapped by the ayatollah kockamamie....But not to worry....

New SOS John " I have 3 Purple Hearts and the 3 Band-Aids to prove it" Kerry is on the case now...

Next thing you'll hear is that we're pulling one of our Carrier Groups out of the region....

Yea, to bad we don't have any REAL leaders like GW, Wolfawitz, Chenney and Rumsfeld...now there were some REAL war heroes! Hell, we could have had 3 or 4 more good wars going on. Think of the money Halliburton and KBR could have made.

LMAO Denver!!! Now we know why Joe is constantly walking around with that stupid S%&T eatin' grin on his face all the time. I wonder if Joe leaves his teeth in or takes them out when meeting for private talks??

What do you do Steve, do you leave your teeth in or take them out for your private talks with your boyfriend.....

You gotta do better than that drano.

Are you insulting gay people or just Steve?

Makes no difference to me mind you but the gay people might be a bit offended. Then again, since they are used to hearing idiocy from the likes of you guys, they'd probably just move on no doubt.

You guys remember that according to Ahmadinejad, there are no gay people in Iran, right?

"No such phenomena."

He is a man who is simply a devout Muslim who follows the KORAN, this proves just how dangerous the followers of the Koran are I might add.

That's the exact same example of Adolph Hitler who devoutly followed his version of the Koran, his ideology. It was called Mien Kampf. We all saw what the result of his ideology was. You think ISLAM is going to be any different? Wait until IRAN can start making thousands of suitcase nukes while Hagel, Obama, Brennan all sit back and worry about hurting their feelings calling them "jihadists" ect! And stripping our FBI and CIA of all the training material that these Freedom Haters refer to as "offensive"

I dont think people seem to understand the DANGER that Obama and his "JIHADIST" supporting staff are to EACH AND EVERY AMERICAN in this country.

They have an election this summer. We'll see then how much they tolerate this.

Shovel face, you are an irrate republican loser. When you disrespect the President of the United States, you lose all credibility with a lot of people. Why don't you stop shoveling bull shiite with your face now. The whole freaking world is a fortune teller like you now. Give us a break Moron.

22kane, when are you pathetic losers going to realize that the election is over and we are moving on? This article was about Iran's supreme leader and their refusal to even negotiate with the US.

Um Alan, first: no name calling, second: winning the Nobel Prize and winning the US Presidential Election are two very different events that have nothing to do with each other. I don't know why you bring that up - no one is disputing the election results.

His post, and the question he posed, is valid. When this President "won" his Peace Prize it surprised people in all parties, because he hadn't done anything to earn it, even Dems agreed back then. Since he won the medal, America is still divided and violent, we still have troops in the ME, and his Administration has been ineffective at promoting peace in the region or even encouraging talks. So 22Kane has a great question, what did he get his prize for?? Clearly he has been unable to bring about peace domestically or abroad.

Agreed, how he won the award is a valid question since he hasnt done anything as president much less bring peace to, well anywhere.

I especially like how he accepted the Nobel prize while giving a speech that defended the use of military force.

Not even that I disagree, and I think Obama has made better use of the military than Bush did, but the dude leans further toward hawk than dove.

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is a very wise man. That is why he is the only one allowed to wear the Big Black Hat.

If you want to know why the Nobel committee gave Barry Obama his Peas Prize, you only need to do a simple internet search:

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2009/

I do not especially hate Obama, so I don't care that he won a Nobel prize. Even Obama said he was surprised to get that award.

But just because he won a Nobel piece prize doesn't mean he can't nuke Iran.

He won the Nobel because he wasn't such an embarrassment for us to the rest of the world that does count. For business I travel all over the world and the US under Bush was becoming a joke. The people I am with overseas are the top 20% of wage earners, these are not liberals but they saw Bush and Cheney as absolute jokes. Remember "Old Europe" that pissed off a lot of allies. You can put them down but the Spanish, Italy, French and especially the Brits lost soldiers fighting with us. How many did Israel lose????

22kane and Mmmbear... he got his price for the same reason the eu got it. it is called the opposite day.

He won the Nobel because he wasn't such an embarrassment for us to the rest of the world that does count.

So "not being Bush" is now worthy of a Nobel prize? Either their standards are really slipping, or you're bending over backwards to insult the last administration in response to a question that has nothing to do with it.

You can't even say that he got it for being a better president than Bush, since he won it so early in his term.

That seems to be the current criteria according to norwegian, socialist, geezers.

DM57, I think everyone agreed that Israel would not be part of coalition for fear of the Arab world going insane and Jijadist would have a great recruiting tool.

My guess is Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, realizes talks with the US will go as the same as always, with the US demanding that Iran give up their nuclear enrichment altogether, even though all of Iran's enrichment is monitored by the IAEA. That monitoring effectively stops any idea that Iran can produce nuclear weapons.

Under international law, Iran is well within it's rights to continue to enrich their uranium, as long as they do not exceed the 20% threshold. That is a fact, that neither the US nor Israel cannot dispute.

If they can't enrich to 97%, they cannot have a weapon. They presently enrich to 20%, the amount required for medical isotopes.

America in the past has made the ridiculous demand that Iran prove it is not making nuclear weapons, which is impossible. After all, how does one prove a negative? Example: Prove to me you didn't read that book.

Having said this, I still would prefer that Iran engage in talks, no matter how farcical they will turn out.

I have an idea. Lets have talks with the Israelis about their massive store of nuclear weapons. We can ask them why they have over 150 weapons. How many nations are they planning to attack?

Iran has a sterling record of not having attacked another nation in almost 200 years.

No more wars for Israel.

Are you kidding me? The IAEA is as impotent as the UN. When push come to shove they will run away just like the UN peacekeepers do when the @!$%# hits the fan.

Iran has a sterling record of not having attacked another nation in almost 200 years.

They use proxies instead.

Fanatical Iranian Ralph -

Your are under the impression that if a lie is told often enough, it will be believed. That is what your pedophile ayatolah murderers tell you, and you contniue repeating their propaganda for that theocratic dictatorship. Shame on you.

Ralph,

I can easily prove I did not read that book by showing you that it is not in my library. Only a fool would believe that the iranians are not producing a nuclear weapon based upon the public displays of their research and the statements made by officials of the government including President Arminadinnerjacket.

The Iranian regime is corrupt and Although I welcome the fact that Biden made an appeal for negotiations, there is no way that the Iranian government plans to give up their desire to possess a nuclear weapon. Sooner or later Isreal will be threatened. They have people on the inside who know what is going on and plans to destroy Isreal are being laid out by the tyrant and his Ayatollahs. before the missile or bomd is dropped on Isreal, Isreal will strike with everything they have on Iran and it will be left a smoldering radioactive parking lot for next century. The ramifications of such will be devastating for the whole world no doubt, but to continue down the present road is inviting this disaster.

As I said only a fool would believe otherwise.

Adam, our embassy was considered sovereign territory and that was 1979.

tygates - Not having a book in your library does not constitute proof you didn't read the book. Apparently you do not have the ability to reason.

For your information, all 16 US intelligence agencies concluded Iran des not have a nuclear weapons program. If you have proof of one, you better let them know. How about showing us the proof.

Here is a small taste of my proof.

February 2011: National intelligence director James Clapper affirms in testimony before
Congress that “Iran is keeping the option open to develop nuclear weapons in
part by developing various nuclear capabilities and better position it to
produce such weapons, should it choose to do so," Mr. Clapper said.
"We do not know, however, if Iran will eventually decide to build nuclear
weapons."

In a recent interview with CNN, Joint Chiefs Chairman Martin Dempsey said
he believed the Iranian regime was a "rational actor" when it comes to the nuclear program. Dempsey said Iran would likely weigh the
ultimate costs and benefits of building a nuclear weapon before doing so. James
Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence, recently told a Senate panel
that a decision had not yet been made by the regime in Tehran.

Barry Rubin, an Israeli expert on terrorism
and international affairs, described the notion that Israel would attack Iran
as “an absurd idea” and concluded: “It isn’t going to happen.”

JERUSALEM - Despite saber-rattling from Jerusalem, Israeli officials now
agree with the U.S. assessment that Tehran has not yet decided on the actual
construction of a nuclear bomb, according to senior Israeli government and
defense figures.

Then let's hear it from UN, loud and clear.

farideh k.."if a lie is told often enough, it will be believed" that has been the israelis method. actually why don't you name one polititian from any country that doesn't lie.perhaps ron paul.

eli..... lets hear what.... they want iran to prove they are not guilty vs them proving iran is guilty. as far as I know If you are a suspect"which they call iran a suspect" you will not be chraged unless proven guilty. the suspect dosen't have to prove his innocent.it is the other way around. the iaea has to prove that iran is guilty and they have failed to do so for the past 13 yeas considering that they have cameras on every centrifuge 24/7 and all the enriched uranium is accounted for. and not only they call iran a suspect but also fail to state what is it that they are suspicious of. so here is how it goes. the israelis fabricated some material from a supposedly recovered laptop!!!!!but to this day there is still no prove that neither the laptop nor the material exists. no prove at all.

From a rare escapee of someone who participated in the sweeping of the Iyatolla Komeni into power, Those that have had enough are already in prison, and have been executed, starved to death or awaiting that end. If you even appear to be the slightest bit in opposition, prison is your new home.

Change without foreign intervention is unlikely.

Uh Adam - The IAEA simply reports it's findings. They aren't expected to attack Iran. When and if they ever find Iran is enriching past the threshold, they will inform America. At that time, it will be time to act. There would still be a period of many months, if not years, where Iran could gain the capability to assemble a weapon.

So Adam, what nation has Iran attacked and with what proxy? Note: proof is required, not mere allegations. Anyone can make up allegations, Zionist propagandists do it all the time.

Zionists love to call Hamas and Hezbollah a proxies of Iran, but the truth is they fight for freedom from Israeli occupation in their own lands. They do not go outside their own country looking for trouble.

terrorist ralph -

Read #6.1 - He knows your government well.

Fanatical ralph -

Reading the last two lines of your lies: Hezbolah is in lebanon, Syria, Agentina, Venezuela and Mexico. Hamas is in Gaza, Syria, Libya, Nigeria and Sudan. Enough lies.

farideh - The idea that Hezbollah is in Argentina or ever was in Argentina, Venezuela or Mexico is totally laughable. What would Hezbollah ever be doing in any of those countries. They don't even speak the language.

The entire idea is idiotic compilation of some Zionist propaganda, without an ounce of proof. You, a veritable Zionist propaganda machine, spout off more crap than a pasture full of cows.

I don't know why we rebuild the $hit we blow up. Why can't we just leave it all blowed up. That is containment!....lol.

That's what I'm saying. How can we tell ancient Middle Eastern civilizations that they don't have the right to arm themselves as they see fit while sending money to the nation we created and call our ally so that they can stockpile nukes and build underground cities? That's a crock. If we want to have legitimate negotiations with Iran, we need to stop being a mouthpiece for the apartheid state of Israel. Otherwise, we are just dictators who are doing our best to help Israel return to the Biblical borders they want. And Iran knows it. And their leaders know it. And the Israeli leaders know it.

Well, in the strictest sense, we can tell them that because we have the military ability to stop them.

But it's irrelevant, really. No matter what Iran does it will never match Israel militarily, which means that any attacks will simply justify their own destruction. The United States may or may not get involved, but I doubt we really need to. If Iran is really willing to choke itself economically to get a nuclear weapon, let them; and Israel, who is the likely target, will attack or let it lie according to their own policies.

The thing is :

Iran is ruled by religious nuts who think they have to defeat Israel and America to usher in their 12th Mehidi or their messiah. They believe that they have to occupy the whole world for that.

If a religious nut tells you something, you better believe it.

Thats the reason they are involved in most of the crisis in the world from Syria to Yemen to Bahrain to Mexico.

Religion is what fuels them to disagree with talks.

What would these brain washed people think if the Great supreme leader of Allah talks with the great satan America?

When you look at countries like N Korea with their labor camps and oppressed people, Iran as a dictatorship also oppressed people especially women it makes me wonder how the earth can still be alive and spinning.

This nut-bag is a PERFECT example of how far these "talks" would go.

Blind devotion to a non-existent god and hatred to the point of blood thirst and foaming at the mouth (as obviously displayed in the foregoing post) to anyone who disagrees or believes in another point of view.

Conrad (#9): I'll gladly discuss the subject Conrad. But please first comment on the Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement. And no rationalizations please. No talk about stolen land. The desire of Muslims to commit genocide against "infidels" (non-Muslims) has existed long before the Arab-Israeli conflict. It has, in fact, existed since the days of Allah.

With regards to imposing Sharia law, they make no distinction between lands originally Muslim and lands that they conquered by force. They are also not in favor of "peaceful solutions," and prefer to kill or be killed. They believe that the Jews started the French Revolution and the first and second world wars and their views on Jews and financial institutions are comparable to the Nazis. They claim freedom of all religions under Islam though go on to say that "Israel, Judaism and Jews challenge Islam and the Moslem people" and that"Peace and quiet would not be possible except under the wing of Islam."

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement

18 August 1988

Article Six:

The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine, for under the wing of Islam followers of all religions can coexist in security and safety where their lives, possessions and rights are concerned. In the absence of Islam, strife will be rife, oppression spreads, evil prevails and schisms and wars will break out.

The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:

"The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).

Article Eleven:

The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab, possess the right to do that. Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated for Moslem generations until Judgment Day. This being so, who could claim to have the right to represent Moslem generations till Judgment Day?

This is the law governing the land of Palestine in the Islamic Sharia (law) and the same goes for any land the Moslems have conquered by force, because during the times of (Islamic) conquests, the Moslems consecrated these lands to Moslem generations till the Day of Judgment.

Article Thirteen:

Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in
contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of
Palestine is abuse directed against part of religion. Nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its religion. Its members have been fed on that. For the sake of hoisting the banner of Allah over their homeland they fight. "Allah will be prominent, but most people do not know."

Article Fifteen:

"I swear by the holder of Mohammed's soul that I would like to invade and be killed for the sake of Allah, then invade and be killed, and then invade again and be killed." (As related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).

Article Twenty-Two:

For a long time, the enemies have been planning, skillfully and with precision, for the achievement of what they have attained. They took into consideration the causes affecting the current of events. They strived to amass great and substantive material wealth which they devoted to the realisation of their dream. With their money, they took control of the world media, news agencies, the press, publishing houses, broadcasting stations, and others. With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the world with the purpose of achieving their interests and reaping the fruit therein. They were behind the French Revolution, the Communist revolution and most of the revolutions we heard and hear about, here and there. With their money they formed secret societies, such as Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, the Lions and others in different parts of the world for the purpose of sabotaging societies and achieving Zionist interests. With their money they were able to control imperialistic countries and instigate them to colonize many countries in order to enable them to exploit their resources and spread corruption there.

You may speak as much as you want about regional and world wars. They were behind
World War I, when they were able to destroy the Islamic Caliphate, making financial gains and controlling resources. They obtained the Balfour Declaration, formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains by trading in armaments, and paved the way for the establishment of their state. It was they who instigated the replacement of the League of Nations with the United Nations and the Security Council to enable them to rule the world through them. There is no war going on anywhere, without having their finger in it.

Article Twenty-Eight:

Israel, Judaism and Jews challenge Islam and the Moslem people. "May the cowards never sleep."

Article Thirty-One:

The Islamic Resistance Movement is a humanistic movement. It takes care of human rights and is guided by Islamic tolerance when dealing with the followers of other religions. It does not antagonize anyone of them except if it is antagonized by it or stands in its way to hamper its moves and waste its efforts. Under the wing of Islam, it is possible for the followers of the three religions - Islam, Christianity and Judaism - to coexist in peace and quiet with each other. Peace and quiet would not be possible except under the wing of Islam. Past and present history are the best witness to that."

See: "Avalon Project: Hamas Covenant 1988," Yale University School of Law for more information.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

If you love the Iranians so much, move there. Your post is full of the same retoric the insane muslims make, Iran is a threat to everyone in this country and to the world in general. They have no desire to part of an international community and are calling for the destruction of another people. So you tell us smart guy how that makes them the victims? Just because you hate Jews and are a bigot does not make your point valid. Go bow down to your great satan pedophile mohammud and live in your blissful ignorance.

Conrad: "There's no need to negotiate with someone who JUST YESTERDAY wanted to wipe you out."

I thought it was Iran who threatened to wipe Israel off the face of the map.

My guess is Conrad is an Islamic transplant here and like all muslims, he needs to be right in the face of overwhelming evidence that contradicts his views.

@ Conrad - 100% agree with you. And I am not an 'Islamic Transplant' as other posters would argue that you must be - I am an American who was born in this country and am as white, western European as they come. The fact is that about 60 or so years ago, the western world imposed Israel directly into the center of Palestine and guaranteed that the middle east would have no stability. We call the Arab leadership backwards and religious fundamentalist, but we are still teaching 'intelligent design' in American schools and allow the religious right to control our political landscape and to lobby our government, as well as allow them exemption from taxation while the meddle in our secular affairs. Our government is no less extreme than the Iranian government when it comes to religion, indeed, we are likely MORE religiously extreme as we are forcing religious countries onto unwilling regions of the world...

How would American's like it if Iran had, half a century or so ago, occupied a big section of the center of our nation, called it 'New Palestine' and loaded it up with funding, military power, and nukes - and then proceeded to tell us we were NOT within our rights to arm ourselves equally and began to bomb and otherwise destroy our military facilities? Would we want to rely on diplomacy and negotiations to protect/regain our sovereignty?

Hell no.

Indeed, we never would have let it get that far in the first place. We would have destroyed the occupiers and then sent our troops over to Iran and wiped them off the face of the Earth before the people of 'New Palestine' started unpacking.

So why is this behavior okay when the US perpetuates it on the nations of the Middle East?
Because Israel is special because the Bible tells you so???

LOL

And what nation is run by religious nuts?

You bible thumpers are insane.

Conrad---your words are similar to that used by the isolationists of the 1930's in their justification of what Hitler was doing in Germany.

Hey Jarhead, the threat from Iran is nonexistant. They have no real navy, air force, long range missiles and no nukes. So quit the isolationism baloney. Being against another war with a country that poses no threat is not isolationism, it is common sense, something Zionists do not possess.

Iran is in no way similar to Germany. If you want an example of a crazy country, read this:

Prominent Israeli military historian, Martin van Creveld, in 2010 said Israel could
find itself one day forced to exterminate the European continent using all
kinds of weapons including its nuclear arsenal if it felt its demise neared,”
and stressed that “Israel also considers Europe a hostile target.”

“We have hundreds of nuclear warheads and
missiles that can reach different targets in the heart of the European
continent, including beyond the borders of Rome, the Italian capital,” Creveld
said, adding that most of the European capitals would become preferred targets
for the Israeli air force.

He reiterated “Israel’s ability to destroy the
whole world whenever it felt its existence would be doomed to extinction.”

Note: America is a part of the whole world, so I guess we are also on their list. Perhaps that is why Israel has more than 150 nuclear weapons. In comparison to the leaders of Israel, the Ayatollas are shrinking violets and peacenics.

elisem writes:

Our government is no less extreme than the Iranian government when it comes to religion

You need to go live in a theocracy for awhile before spewing out nonsense like that.

Basil,

Fired up as always I see.

I'm starting to think that this whole conflict with the west is some sort of clash of the titans. The only titan here IS the west.

Fight the good fight.

Elisem,

You should tighten those loose screws before your brain falls out.

Isreal would be the first nation to fall to these goons and they would just keep moving west west west until they hit China.....wouldn't stop there either. Their manifest destiny is Global Islam and Shira Law.

Isreal is the key. Clearly you are no chess player.

Hey Ralph-----wow, you have a real problem, now don't you! "Zionists"----a familiar word that Hitler used....how appropriate for you. Makes no difference---Israel will take care of Iran. Maybe you can get over there in time for the flash.

Jarhead, your name implies you were a US Marine, but I highly doubt it it. Perhaps you should change you moniker to yarmulke boy.

Hell will freeze over before Israel gets the gonads to attack Iran. Israel is good at attacking countries with no missile defense systems, but when there is any chance of failure, Israel bows out and leaves the action to America, just as they did in Iraq. We have given Israel the bunker busters, but they still sit somewhere in Israel. They are waiting for America.

Israel, the land of parasites, feasting off the taxpayers of America, who have been sold out by our leaders in Congress.

Ralph--12th Marines in Vietnam; 11th Marines in Desert Storm. Your last comment on Israel proves my point.

Ralph,

Clearly you too are no chess player or historian. The US sidelined Isreal in both conflicts with Iraq.

Jarhead, the Marines are badasses...so by default, you are a badass. No need to argue with Ralph. It's all ralph coming out of his mouth anyway. Besides, he sounds like a kkklucker....that jew hating is right up their alley.

ralph is a fanatical iranian supporting his theocratic dictatorship of the murderous ayatolahs. No more, no less. So he lies and lies and lied until hopefully someone would believe him.

Farideh,

"fanatical iranian supporting his theocratic dictatorship of the murderous ayatolahs"

That was sort of in line with my first thought.....his English is too "American" though so I went with jew hating kkklucker...lol.

BTW Ralph, the Isreali military is one of the most well trained finely tuned fighting machines in the world. If you paid attention to any world history in high school, which you are probably skipping today, you would know that they have bested every Muslim military to ever be stupid enough to provoke them....sometimes more than one at a time and in one instance seven at one time.

basil remeo and frideh k and the rest of israeli stooges. explain the hunky dori relation of israel with saudi arabia "the mother of them all terrorists". whats up with that oh wait . i know . it takes one to know one. thats all.2+2=!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Troy and Farideh: A belated happy new year to you.

You as well Basil.

Sounds like rameshm2 is not enjoying your company though. Alls well. Thanks for the first grade math lesson rameshm2.

BTW, the relationship that stands with Isreal and Saudi Arabia is one that involves a common enemy - Iran..can't expect someone like you to deduce that I suppose though.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend....that is also something we learn on our first grade playgrounds here in America. There is no chance of dividing the US, Isreal and Saudi Arabia unless Iran no longer exists. Egypt, at present, is a bit of a wild card but they will not risk all out war with the likes of the US over Iran. Plus, given the current state of places like Syria and Egypt, there isn't a chance in hell of anybody capable of doing significant damage to Isreal...which brings us full circle back to PERSIA.....you think the Saudis would ever align with the PERSIANS!....you're nuts. They are securely tied to the global economy given that they produce the vast majority of its oil. What do they get if they lose that economic tie with the outside world. I predict the country would look much like Syria and Egypt in less than a year.

My father taught me that when you argue with an idiot you become the idiot so I shall digress now.

troy . exactly my point. if your leader in israel dealing with the saudis and qataris who are the first runners in producing jihadist and wahabis and alqueda and salafis terrorists then shot up and stop your b/s of calling names. it is not the matter of saudis want to be iran's ally. persian will never align with saudi. remeber "abdollah saba"probably never heard of him.here is the link why.. .http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/History/Post-Sasanian/zoroastrians_after_arab_invasion.htm If you are under the impression that I support islam, you are dead wrong. my only support is for iran w/o islam, but I don't believe either israel or u.s or any of the western countries want to see islam vanished from iran. Islam is just a tool for them to create chaos and fracture peoples unity.all the suffering brought upon persians is direct result of the islamic invasion. why do you think the arabs call the persian infidels. it is because they couldn't impose their culture of barberianism on persians. I guess you have missed the point that the enemy that you align with will someday comes back to hunt you. just like when israel created and supported hamas. now they have to deal with them. or u.s creating alqaeda or taliban. these terrorists don't form by themselves , they are mostly formed and supported by the west. there are many irregularities in when and how the 1979 iran revolution took place that there is no doubt in my mind that it was an outside conspiracy against the persian .

So......divide and conquer works then. As long as they are too stupid to stop killing eachother and unite I'd say we are in pretty good shape.

I have to say, rameshm2, your spelling is terrible and your sentences just run on and on and on...

...and this one; "troy . exactly my point. if your leader in israel dealing with the saudis and qataris who are the first runners in producing jihadist and wahabis and alqueda and salafis terrorists then shot up and stop your b/s of calling names" doesn't even make any sense.

I don't even understand what you are saying. No name calling going on here....btw. And this one; "there are many irregularities in when and how the 1979 iran revolution took place that there is no doubt in my mind that it was an outside conspiracy against the persian."...screw them, they were weak....still are.

I leave you with this;

Any nation that forces religion onto its population and dictates their lives to the fullest will never rise to the greatness that free thinkers can.

Obama will do nothing, they will get the bomb in his term and he will do nothing. Then the liberals will blame Bush for Iran having the bomb.

angel of death... you are such a fool and childish. do you really think that if u.s thought it was feasible and winnable, they wouldv'y waited all these years. the dare consequences are astronomical. an estimated $1.8 trillion for the first 2 wks plus many thousends casualties from both sides. they can not do it considering iran borders all the eastern coast of persian gulf and has placed millitary bases in each and every corner. choking the strait of hurmoz will bring the prices of oil to over $300 a barrel and god only knows how long the war will drag. people around the world will not be able to cope with that. go study real news and get a knowledge of geography while you are at it.

rameshm2,

I love how you just make it up as you go along and pull your information out of thin air.

The US and Saudi Arabia would never allow Iran to control any piece of the Persian Gulf. We literally keep two complete strike groups in the gulf at all times. One is just for redundancy.

1.8 trillion dollars in two weeks?.....you so funny..lol.

troy. you are wrong once again. as I said if you would'veif you could've. just like you did in iraq and afghanistan. I love how you used the term"u.s and saudi arabia" iran does control the persian gulf. saudi is nothing. u.s knows iran can close the strait of hurmoz "two oil tankers down and goodbuy .thats all it takes"otherwise they would've attacked iran many years back. they attacked iraq first under the assumption that they will have a better startegic position against iran, but that didn't happen. as far as the estimate. my bad, it is $2-3 trillion for the first 3 mo. here is a cnn link. http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/15/putting-a-price-on-war-with-iran/ I think you are a bit delusional when it comes to u.s millitary might.they couldn't defeat the afghan taliban who had nothing, but $10 home made bombs. come down your high horses man.they made a disaster out of iraq w/ many thouseds american dead and nearly a million iraqi. keep your war rhetoric up and see where it takes you. yah let the american get killed for the sake of corporations and global bankers just like it happened w/ Iww and iiww.

So I am assuming you are talking about the Democrat Party

Yea Democrats can be idiots some times but thats no reason to call them stupid Sane. And as far as your evelution comment, its a theory for a reason, do some research. Why are so manty in the science community turning to creation? Because evelution has too many holes in it, but you will overlook those I am sure. But the point of the article is Iran not God or evolution, and Iran has shown to be a bully and terroristic state. They are calling for the annihilation of Israel or are you a Jew hater who is ok with that? Let me guess your against war unless its someone you dont like?

Can you substantiate any of your claims because I sure don't see it from what I read about our international relationships. Perhaps is it just right wing sour grapes?

Look at Obamas first term mike, he hasnt followed through on any promises, you libs bellyached about Bush policies and Obama has kept them all in place, where is the outrage? Face it the left are wishywashy, they complain about what the right does and then when their guy does it, well they tend to overlook that then, things are only wrong when the other side does them, but if our guy does it it must be ok. It must be wonderful to live in a fairy tale world. Why dont you look at all the promises made by your president and see how many he has followed through on. Worst president since Carter. I didnt like Bush, but I miss him now.

@Gary We are out of Iraq and will be out of Afghanistan before Obama is out of office. There are two promises kept right there.

Gary, you are a fool. I am doing a hell of a lot better financially under Obama than I was doing under the last years of Bush and I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way. Go cry a river somewhere else. You Republicans bring out that worthless Mitt Romney and expect to win the election. A word of advice, next time have your party nominate someone worthwhile. Like say Condalisa Rice or someone that has some itelligence.

What about the effed up religious beliefs that led to Israel being placed right in the middle of the Arab world in the first place?? How is the US run any differently than Iran, except 'Islam' is subbed out by 'Christianity'?? It's the 21st century and our kids are still being taught in SCIENCE classes the earth was created by a sky fairy in 6 days, and we allow are kids to have their minds warped by religious zealotry from the time they are born because we are too ignorant to put their mental well-being above ludicrous traditions and the words of a 2000 year old book of fairy tales. The US is directly responsible for what is occurring in the middle east right now, far more so than Iran. We demanded an apartheid jewish state be created in the midst of the Arab world, and then allowed the leaders of that state to violate UN resolution after UN resolution in order to swallow up more and more land to which the religious leadership of both Israel and the US seem to think the Israelis are entitled - and we did it with the expectation that the ANCIENT SOVREIGN NATIONS in the region would tolerate it?

Of course not. We knew the amount of instability we were creating in the region, and we loved it, because the constant turmoil with our 'ally' Israel gave us a foothold in the oil-rich region - and the wars are money making machines.

The situation in the Middle East is directly our fault. If we were the Iranian government, do you think we'd see any point in negotiating with the corrupt and power-hungry nation that caused our problems in the first place??? Particularly considering the state of affairs in Iraq and Afghanistan??

I think not.

It's the 21st century and our kids are still being taught in SCIENCE classes the earth was created by a sky fairy in 6 days

That's false, actually. Public curriculums do not allow science classes to teach Biblical lore. Some private schools might technically be allowed to do so, but I'd wonder what kind of educational institution would be willing to tarnish their academic reputations by doing so. Additionally, saying we're a "Christian" nation is absurd, whether it's the Christians or the anti-Christians (you) saying it. America is a secular nation where the right to worship literally any religion/God you choose is protected above and beyond the laws of state and country. As is your right to blaspheme against that religion (by referring to the Creator as a "sky fairy" for example). Laws require strictly secular justification to be enforced and can thus be challenged, rather than the judiciary shrugging and telling you "well, God and/or the Supreme Leader said so."

So if you're really so clueless as to wonder how Iran and America are any different, well, there you go. All those things would have you imprisoned or executed in Iran, while in America it might just provoke some nasty arguments. First Amendment, baby.

Wouldn't that be three nations? Last time I checked, Israel claimed to be it's own nation.

@Indigo - Most xian folks consider Israel an appendage of the US, and therein lies the problem. Do you see us getting involved with China because they are spatting with Japan over some islands? Nope. Isn't Japan our ally as well?? So what are we doing dealing with Iran on behalf of the supposedly sovereign and nuclear-armed Israel? Can't they handle themselves? Or are they only capable of defending their stolen land against unarmed Palestinian children or by stealing more land by bulldozing the settlements of peaceful Palestinian families to the ground in times of supposed peace??

I watched the last conflict live. I watched the Israeli 'Iron Dome' intercept missiles with a very high degree of accuracy. I also watched Israel deliberately bomb media outlets and hotels where journalists were housed because they claimed that they were housing weapons - when in fact they were housing only cameras that were showing the world the truth.

The problem? The only people who care to know the truth are those who have already accepted that Israel is the problem - the rest of the US and xian world would rather believe the hype fed to them by the main-stream (and zionist-owned, do some research) US media.

@Indigo - Most xian folks consider Israel an appendage of the US, and therein lies the problem. Do you see us getting involved with China because they are spatting with Japan over some islands? Nope. Isn't Japan our ally as well?? So what are we doing dealing with Iran on behalf of the supposedly sovereign and nuclear-armed Israel? Can't they handle themselves? Or are they only capable of defending their stolen land against unarmed Palestinian children or by stealing more land by bulldozing the settlements of peaceful Palestinian families to the ground in times of supposed peace??

I watched the last conflict live. I watched the Israeli 'Iron Dome' intercept missiles with a very high degree of accuracy. I also watched Israel deliberately bomb media outlets and hotels where journalists were housed because they claimed that they were housing weapons - when in fact they were housing only cameras that were showing the world the truth.

The problem? The only people who care to know the truth are those who have already accepted that Israel is the problem - the rest of the US and xian world would rather believe the hype fed to them by the main-stream (and zionist-owned, do some research) US media.

Israel can handle themselves just fine. They have fought off the attacks of 7 Arab states without any help from USA, so now you could call the land the won in defensive war "stolen", and describe the AK-wielding terrorists of Hamas and Hezbollah as "unarmed children".

US is opposed to Iran getting a nuclear weapon not for the sake of Israel, but for their own sake, because last thing this world needs is more power to a regime that is sponsoring terrorism.

I really don't think that u.s wants to negotiate. they are only pretending to want do so.

If we didn't want to negotiate, then what do we want to do? Attack them? What's stopping us? What's the point of using sanctions to starve Iran's economy and demanding talks if we're just going to shrug it off and invade anyway?

War may or may not be coming to the region, but Obama's administration is making a good faith effort to avoid it. Khamenei doesn't seem to think that's worth anything. Well, it's his country that's at stake, so that's on him.

Hey gizmo - What do you think Russia will do if the fallout ends up over Russia? I know what I would do if that happened and I were a Russian leader.

You are very cavalier about destroying 60 million people. I guess it is a Zionist trait. The Jews in Russia were responsible for millions of deaths under Lenin.

Well Ralph,

Sounds like my former countrymen got driven over the edge, by your poor knowledge of Russian history.

In case you haven't had a chance to read them, I'll provide a softer explanation for you.

There indeed were plenty of Jews in Lenin's party, but there were also about a dozen other nations, such as Ukrainians fighting for independence, or Chinese immigrants fighting for better treatment, or even Muslims from Middle Asia...

Pinning the cruelties of Bolsheviks on Jews is like pinning the cruelties of American Civil War on black people, that's how idiotic you sound.

Also, if you are counting on Russia's help for Iran, google "Nord Ost" and you will understand how slim your odds are.

With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov),
most of the leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief of
Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party's
executive secretary and -- as chairman of the Central Executive Committee --
head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev (Radomyslsky) headed the
Communist International (Comintern), the central agency for spreading revolution
in foreign countries. Other prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek
(Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev
(Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky.⁶

Lenin himself was of mostly Russian and Kalmuck ancestry,
but he was also one-quarter Jewish. His maternal grandfather, Israel (Alexander)
Blank, was a Ukrainian Jew who was later baptized into the Russian Orthodox
Church.⁷

A thorough-going internationalist, Lenin viewed ethnic or
cultural loyalties with contempt. He had little regard for his own countrymen.
"An intelligent Russian," he once remarked, "is almost always a Jew or someone
with Jewish blood in his veins."⁸