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Olympic and Paralympic star Oscar Pistorius was charged with murder Thursday after his girlfriend was shot dead at his South African home.
South African Police spokeswoman Denise Beukes said that Pistorius, 26, and the victim were the only people present when the shooting took place. The woman had been shot at least twice, police said.
Pistorius will appear for a court hearing on Friday at 9am local time, the South African prosecutor’s office confirmed.
Numerous media outlets reported that the sprinter -- who is nicknamed "Blade Runner" because he races wearing carbon fiber prosthetic blades -- may have mistaken the woman for an intruder.
Beukes would not confirm the victim's identity, but said investigators were "very surprised" to hear media reports that the shooting was possibly a case of mistaken identity.
A publicist for Reeva Steenkamp, a model whom Pistorius was dating, confirmed to NBC's TODAY that her client was dead. She described the incident as a "huge loss for everyone and too shocking for words."
© Lucky Nxumalo / City Press - Gallo Images via Getty Images, file
Oscar Pistorius and Reeva Steenkamp attend an award ceremony in Johannesburg, South Africa, on November 4.
Beukes said there were no signs of forced entry to the home and said that police would oppose any application Pistorius might make to be released on bail.
Beukes said there had been reports about previous problems at Pistorius' home that were "allegations of a domestic nature." When a reporter asked if she meant domestic violence, she nodded and said yes.
"There are witnesses and we have interviewed them," she added. "We're talking about neighbors and people who heard things earlier in the evening and when the shooting took place."
The Associated Press reported that a 9mm handgun had been found at his home in the luxurious Silver Woods gated community.
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Sarit Tomlinson, who is Steenkamp's publicist, told Britains' Sky News that the the pair had been together for a couple months.
"She was a rising star ... a very bright young girl," Tomlinson said. She noted that "no one knows what happened" but said "we are in communication with the people on the scene."
The Silver Woods Country Estate released a statement on its website early Thursday: "We are deeply saddened by the tragic circumstances that occurred today at Silver Woods. Our sincere condolences, thoughts and prayers go out to Reeva Steenkamp’s family and friends."
Steenkamp, a 30-year-old law school graduate, gushed about Valentine's Day on Twitter Wednesday, posting "What do you have up your sleeve for your love tomorrow???" and "It should be a day of love for everyone."
What do you have up your sleeve for your love tomorrow??? #getexcited #ValentinesDay
— Reeva Steenkamp (@reevasteenkamp) February 13, 2013
Pistorius was born without a fibula in both legs and battled for years to be allowed to compete against able-bodied athletes.
'National hero'
He was the first double amputee to run in the Olympics. He qualified for the 400-meter semi-finals and 4 x 400-meter final at the London 2012 Summer Games.
His website highlighted that Pistorius ran in 11 races during the London 2012 Olympics and Paralymics and returned home with "two Paralympic gold medals, Paralympic silver, two world records, a Paralympic record, an Olympic individual semi-final and an Olympic final."
Pistorius, a double amputee born without fibulas in his legs, has trained hard to participate in the Olympics despite having to wear prosthetic legs. NBC's Mary Carillo reports.
He earned headlines after qualifying for the 2011 world championships in Daegu, South Korea, and is widely considered the world's most famous disabled athelete.
Speaking to Sky News, South African journalist Kribani Pillay described Pistorius as a "national hero and national icon."
Violent crime is major issue in South Africa, and many homeowners own guns.
In a January 2012 New York Times article, Pistorius described his reaction to a security alarm going off in his home:
He mentioned that a security alarm in the house had gone off the previous night, and he had grabbed his gun and tiptoed downstairs. (It turned out to be nothing.)
I asked what kind of gun he owned ... He fetched his 9-millimeter handgun and two boxes of ammunition. We got back in the car and drove to a nearby firing range, where he instructed me on proper technique. Pistorius was a good coach. ... I asked him how often he came to the range. “Just sometimes when I can’t sleep,” he said.
The U.S. State Department Bureau of Diplomatic Security warns of the danger of Pretoria and other South African cities: "On a rating scale of low, medium, high, and critical, Pretoria, Johannesburg, Durban, and Cape Town are rated 'critical' for crime."
Citing South African Police Service 2011 crime statistics, the agency pointed out home invasion as a particularly violent crime that occurs "at an alarmingly high rate."
In Gauteng Province, which includes Pretoria and Johannesburg, there were 7,039 home invasions reported in 2011, according South African police statistics.
Artist Melinda Bam of Pretoria, who was Miss South Africa 2011, expressed her sadness on Twitter and mentioned "how unsafe most South Africans feel because of crime."
Heartbroken for #ReevaSteenkamp's family & for #OscarPistorius.This highlights how unsafe most South Africans feel because of crime#RIPReeva
— Melinda Bam (@melindabam) February 14, 2013
South Africa's Sports Confederation and Olympic Committee declined to discuss the shooting.
"SASCOC ... knows no more than what is in the public domain, which is there has been an alleged fatal shooting on the basis of a mistaken identity and an apparent assumption of a burglary," it said. "The organization is in no position to comment on the incident other than to say our deepest sympathy and condolences have been expressed to the families of all concerned."
Oscar Pistorius may soon make history as the first double amputee to compete in the Olympics. The South African sprinter's emergence as one of the world's fastest runners has generated controversy over whether his carbon fiber prosthetic legs give him an unfair advantage, something he vehemently denies. NBC Sports' Mary Carillo reports.
NBC News' Matthew DeLuca and the Associated Press contributed to this report.
Related:
Reeva Steenkamp was model, budding TV star
Pistorius sorry for timing of outburst at Paralympics -- but is brand destroyed?
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This story was originally published on Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:38 AM EST
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Why is this top story?
Slow news night?
It's an internationally known figure being charged with murder. What do you expect?
Certainly didn't expect to see this headline. If it's true that Oscar had mistaken her for a burglar, he will be beside himself with grief and will probably need some counseling. We can only hope this was not in fact an intentional murder.
looks like Ted Nugent was right after all!!! We all need guns to be more safe...just ask this burglar how she feels now!
So they could get 'gun' up in lights.
Looked up his girlfriend, extremely beautiful supermodel (FHM cover model). Even if I hadn't seen her, I would have thought the burglar story extremely doubtful.
It's probably one of those can't live without you stories.... But even if its not. Even on the slim chance it was a tragic mistake, shooting at shadows while not knowing where in the home your girlfriend is, will still support a murder charge (i.e. murder by criminal recklessness).
He was a law abiding gun owner... until he wasn't. :P
journaljournal, well stated.
It's awfully hard to believe the burglar story when he pumps not one but "two" shots into her.
Sounds to me that he was going to lose her considering her career was on the fast track so, he killed her and made up the burglar story.
I'll never understand why people just can't let someone go and move on instead of the old, if I can't have her, nobody can BS. POS man...
I may have been too quick to judge. The stories are being updated. Seems they may have lived apart and she was sneaking in to surprise him on valentines. Tragic. Still probably a crime though.
NBC is now putting any story with which they can put the word "gun" in the headline will make front page. Guns are bad. Bad Bad Bad.
It sounds like what Pistorius had up his sleeve was a gun.
Not a day of love for her, sadly.
Believe it or not, most deaths by gun in the US are caused by either suicides or a domestic dispute gone bad. A woman who owns a gun is 2.7 times more likely to be killed by a firearm than one living without. So yes, guns are not always the answer are they?
Condolences to the family and friends of Reeva. Tragedies like this are always difficult to understand.
Our thoughts and prayers are with you.
An "accident", eh? Nope. Sorry. Not buying.
Looks like the girlfriend wanted out and he couldn't deal with it.
another
If you don't like hearing the news. Go back to bull@!$%# mountain (fox news). They don't report on anything that would make what they support look bad.
david
Telling the truth is a nazi tactic? You must have learned that from bull@!$%# mountain news. Well then, I guess no one can accuse fox news of using nazi tactics can they?
PS
This is what is at the top of fox news web site:
'Blade Runner' Charged With Murder
Gee, looks the same.
gm Creek Dog
I find it easier to believe than you do. When I practice, I almost always double tap a target before acquiring the next one.
Looks to me as though the 'news' you're supporting does the same thing... Yesterday in her tweet it didn't seem as though she was about to ditch him.. If she was ditching why was she coming into his home unannounced? I'm not saying he didn't murder her but I sure as heck am not saying he did either.. Let's all see what the investigation turns up before any of us plays jury. In the meantime for heaven sake just quit sniping at each other. If we don't all start getting along better and standing up for making America well again we're going to wake up one day to find there is no chance of fixing it. Peace
GM and Happy VD. Agree with Bill. But this does not sound like an accidental/intruder shooting to me. More like "Honey, is that you"?
Guns are not the problem. People without the love of God are the problem.
"This is what is at the top of fox news web site:
'Blade Runner' Charged With Murder
Gee, looks the same."
Oh no! Fox News has joined the Nazi anti-gun crusade!? The end is nigh!
I hope they cut of his head and replace it wit a carbon fiber one! Some people can't appreciate how good they have it...
Another 1,
"Certainly didn't expect to see this headline."
We seem to be living in the age of the fall of sports heroes. Oscar Pistorius, Lance Armstrong, Joe Paterno, etc. Why should it surprise anyone? How many others have there been recently? Anyone care to add to my little list?
I see a Lifetime Network movie coming down the road. It will be called "The Legless Blunder."
... but at the same time, the little Alfred Hitchcock voice in my head says it was MURDER.
Steamie,
"the little Alfred Hitchcock voice in my head says it was MURDER."
I'd have to say that's for the Birds.
Beukes said there were no signs of forced entry to the home and said that police would oppose any application Pistorius might make to be released on bail.
Guess they're afraid he'll run!
Happens all the time, he's not the first person to shoot a moving shaddow in his house only to find out it's one of his loved ones.
Just the price we pay to make sure bad bad burlar men dont break into our homes and steal our things.
Things are so so valuable you know.
Things are what matters most.
Alright - new creed from NRA - don't sneak up and surprise your gunowner boyfriends. Otherwise you will be shot. What else you expect from responsible gun owners?
I don't buy the story that he thought she was an intruder...but if she did sneak in, she was beyond stupid. If you know your boyfriend keeps a gun on his night table & you live in a place with lots of home invasions, you don't plan a midnight sneak.
But really, Jessica, do you think that people have a gun to protect their stuff? People who keep a gun for protection are trying to prevent their families (or themselves) from ending up dead or tortured during a home invasion. Did you miss the news about the home invasions in Cheshire, CT, or Milford, NH--to name just a few of the worst? It's not about the flat screen.
After reading a lot of other posts and updates, it "is" looking more like she was going to surprise him in his home (they did not live together) and she had a key and knew the alarm code.
He obviously didn't know she was going to surprise him and thought someone had broken in.
OMG if this is true, then this has got to be one of the worse scenarios that could ever possibly happen between two people who certainly loved one another so much.
Honestly, I love my wife so much that if this were me, they'd find us both dead. I'd have to leave a note explaining the situation so they don't simply think it was a murder suicide.
What a terrible shame man. Even if they figure out that the above is true and find him innocent, he's marked for life...... Guess we'll find out more in future updates.
myname is correct. People like you will do anything to blame the NRA and responsible gun owners.
I hope your karate is good. You know, with those bullet resistant wrist bands to deflect those shots at you. Heh heh.
We don't need that. One shot, one kill.
Next!
Come on. Lay off the American gun owners. This was a South African gun. Huge difference. This sort of thing never happens in America because the NRA is here teaching us how to be responsible gun hord-- er-- owners.
Yes, it's sad when a breakup happens. Guess somebody got cold feet.
Its a white athlete being charged with murder.....of course it would be, its not like it happens everyday. As for the "intruder" motive and previous domestic police involvement, this may be interesting after all?
Steamie2010,
I was so thinking the same thing!
Lee: She clearly should have known better than to sneak around her boyfriends house when he has a gun. Men have been known to shoot their girlfriends for lesser reasons. :P
#blamethevictim
#womansfault
"NBC is now putting any story with which they can put the word "gun" in the headline will make front page. Guns are bad. Bad Bad Bad."
It's not like they have to dig very deep for the stories. There are more across the country than can be reported in a 24 hour period.
cheetah, you must have missed the part about it being in South Africa. Not sure if you knew this, but South Africa is not in the USA - and no, USA gun laws don't apply in all parts of the world.
We should wait to see what the investigation turns up. Two scenarios are possible, he did shoot out of jealousy that her career was taking off and she would leave him, OR she did sneak in after it was over and he shot before identifing his target.
Either way he is toast and she is dead. Tragedy, but not the fault of the firearm.
MSNBC looks to be reporting the story as is and does not have the typical anti gun rhetoric that I usually read.
Gee, Mickey... you forgot Tiger Woods, OJ Simpson, and Kobe Bryant... just to name a few.
I'll take it a step further and say this: Our sports-crazed culture pays the top professional athletes hundreds of millions in endorsements, places them on pedestals and enables their bad behavior. We are creating these ego-maniacal monsters... we are all a part of it.
The outliers are the professional athletes who don't go off the deep end in their personal lives.
@myname - intelligent rational people like GOP and NRA? Or like the ones who say - enough is enough - 2nd amendment is not equal to unrestricted firepower.
To the Numb nuts bashing MSNBC for covering a "GUN" story. Please check out Fox News' coverage. It's the same friggen story but at Faux News, it screams at you with bolder lettering! ... What a bunch of dopes!
I'm not very familiar with Pistorius, nor am I at all familiar with South African laws, but considering this issue from an American point of view, the fact that he was charged with murder rather than with manslaughter or involuntary manslaughter suggests that this issue involves more than just a homeowner protecting his property from a suspected intruder.
Also, for all of you who are tempted to apply the America's current gun control frenzy to South African society, please remember that South Africa is not the US.
@ journal journal
Was he? I hope you realize that this happened in South Africa. With the multiple domestic violence calls and the minimum waiting period usually exceeding 2 years, was he really a law abiding gun owner?
Really? Are you sure about that or are you just playing the "evil gun owners" card?
There might have been some updates to this story after people posted but the article quotes the South African Police spokesperson as saying:
and:
I'll withold judgement (try to anyways), but it appears that the police know something we don't.
So the cops are surprised that the media is reporting this as a possible case of mistaken identity.
There were allegations of domestic abuse. It sure doesn't sound like a case of mistaken identity to me.
Great. What is this guy trying to do, usurp Lance Armstrong as a dousche bag? He certainly did in my book, taking someone's life.
People do great things, and then feel the need to f--k it all up. Wonderful.
Or maybe he had a gun because home invasions tend to be violent crimes. My parent's home was broken into last week in the middle of the day. My dad was home alone and the perp attacked him with the crowbar that he had used to break into the house. My dad wasn't resisting in any way and would have let the guy take the TV, which is the only thing he took, because he isn't willing to risk his life over a stupid TV. My dad is fine and the perp was arrested the next day but if you think those who break into homes aren't also acting violently when they encounter the residents of those houses, you are badly mistaken. If someone breaks into your house while your home there's a good chance they will do very violent things to you when they find you.
Ban valentines day surprises...
she was super beautiful and was probably moving on to greener pastures...this ass couldnt take it...so he kills her...
Larry Dash,
You do realize that more women being shot with guns in no way proves that having a gun causes danger right? They probably have guns because of the danger they face. Cops carry guns, and cops get shot more than the general public. Gas station and other cash rich place workers also tend to carry guns since armed robbery is more likely. Or they have more guns because they live in a dangerous liberal hell hole like Chicago or Detroit and have to defend themselves. Please take a statistics class before you try to pass a statistic as proving your point.
And people this happened in South Africa. This is a different country than the US.
Finally, on a funny note. The advertisement I saw under the picture was for Sprint. lol
Exactly, it's proof that women cause danger. If the woman wasn't there, she wouldn't have to worry about being shot. Come on people, logic. :P
And this is South Africa people, I mean... what does it have to do with anything right? It's a different Country. We have nothing to learn from anything that happens over there. :P
Jessica, your comment is really dumb. If this WAS a case of mistaken identity, did it ever occur to you that Pistorius feared for his life? Even though he was stupid not to find out first who it was, it's more than remotely possible that when he thought someone had broken into his house, he feared for his life. Wouldn't YOU if a burglar who wants "thing" busted into your home? Newsflash, Jess: Burglars have been known to MURDER homeowners!!!
So all you lefties out there don't realize this happened in South Africa? NOT part of the U.S., ergo, U.S. gun laws do not apply, no NRA, GOP of United Democratic Socialist Party. South Africa requires a mental evaluation and two year waiting period to own a hand gun. But hey, I guess international bounders, the Atlantic ocean, and a completely different set of laws means nothing to the died in the wool, brainwashed, Brahman demoncrat gun grab loons.
And to all those women out there who think burglars are only after you property, think again, rape is usually an option if they think they can get way with it. An intruder can and will take more than property. But hey, you have 911 (state sponsored dial a prayer), right? The cops will ride to your rescue, right?,,,,, maybe they will,,,,, eventually. They usually arrive to take pictures of the body and inventory your place, take some more pictures, drink coffee, have a donut or two. Don't get me wrong, the cops do a good job for the most part, but, they can't be every where. You should feel better. Waiting for them to show up while being brutalized in you own home. Hero worship, like pacifism, can get you killed. But hey, your choice.
You're close. My "LIFE" is what matters most. I can replace material objects...
What made you write something like that!?
Shop a lot?!
Creek Dog, it was obvious sarcasm.
I won't speculate until hearing more. The investigators seem to know more about the case than the media or the media isn't reporting everything since they say the investigation team was surprised to see this reported as a mistake in identity. But about the amount of shots, that's what they teach in gun safety and self protection classes, "Two shots to center mass."
One thing is for certain - if you get into a relationship and within only a couple of months there are instances of domestic violence, it is time to leave. It is time to leave the first time something happens!
Kaybeetoys,
Your comment on post 1.12 is frikin hilarious! Too bad all the prudes on here collapsed it.
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Sad story though for everyone.
I hear that firearms are very persuasive in keeping a girl with you. But yeah, but she shouldn't have let the fact that the guy was packing keep her from ending the relationship. :P
#blamethevictim
#womansfault
How are they gonna stop this guy from running away?
Very sad. A woman is dead and his Olympic career is over.
Whether an intentional slaying or an accident, it is a dreadful tragedy. Two scenarios, very different but both awful for everyone involved.
multiple firing is not an accident...it shows intent. Neighbors heard disturbing sounds prior to the shots. Now the guy is charged with her murder. Does not look good.
Mistook his supermodel girlfriend for an intruder and shot her? Twice? Hmmm... Sounds convenient... (Especially since the police had been to the house on domestic violence calls)...
sounds like 'roid rage.
He has been charged with murder, there is no mention that this is an ongoing investigation. Who cares about his career, a young woman was murdered by her boyfriend. This article is mostly about his accomplishments that are absolutely meaningless in light of what he did! They mention Ms Steenkamp as the "girlfriend" and the victim. The media needs to stop focusing on the killers.
Yes it is! And he should never had an Olympic career. He never should have been allowed into the Olympics with his prosthetic legs. Shows how far PC has gone!
If he were half a man, he would... no, wait a minute...uh...
The cops escorting him really took the spring out of his step.
Can't use those blades in prison..both are weapons.
I hear suicide in the news very soon there, no way he will want to live now (in prison).
Happy Valentines Day!
This has nothing to with his prosthesis but everything to do with the attitude athletes, movie stars, politicians, C.E.O.s an most high profile celebrities" obtain, after their fans flood them with adoration and praise. Yes. Oscar won a medal but that is all he did. There are so many other careers, where people dedicate themselves to winning but never receive the kudos they deserve. Parents, nurses, policeman, fireman, waitresses, to name a few, of the people, whose only mission, is to do their best. No accolades or honors, are ever bestowed upon these heros and yet, they have worked just as hard, to achieve, perfection. They are the best in their fields and no one has ever asked them, for an endorsement for a product; asked them, if they are going to Disney World, created a fan club or any of the bizarre things the adoring fans, of these psuedo heroes do, to create the illusion, they are a better person.
When we start honoring our mothers and fathers and I do not mean the Hallmark variety of honor, I mean, appreciating the people who have created a decent human being. Or a fireman who drivess up to an auto accident and provides care, while looking at gruesome carnage, that is when humanity becomes human. Compassionate and caring people, always take the back seat, to egos like Donald Trump or Mitt Romney. Decent people are looked down upon the country club set or the "Haves."
I believe, once we die, that is when we will see the halos of those who really deserve, the medals and the accolades. Remember those "haves" cannot take it with them. They will be stripped to their very soul, if they have one.
So this guy will get out of this jam because he is "A somebody" but in essence he accomplished the real status of a nobody!
@Judy The Ornery multiple check marks deserved.
We are all taught from day one all the wrong values and therefore get into all kinds of emotional dramas which lead to committing crime of moral indignation, crime of passion, jealousy and greed. All in all people are more inclined to be confrontational than conciliatory, resorting to anger at the drop of a hat due to their inability to ratiocinate, to be educated and philosophical enough to harness the ego and all the pride and principles that are not conducive to their well being and the well being of society as a whole. With the sort of upbringing most people have from parents who were badly brought up themselves by their parents who were just as badly raised, if not worse, they are all effectively victims of victims and unless there is a radical rethink, so as to rid the mind of the good old bad old ways, these sort of violence, domestic or otherwise will normally go on.
i believe the issue involved when one partner takes the life of another is often the concept of "ownership".
the murderous partner does not know how to have normal boundaries in a relationship, feels inordinate possession when the bond is formed and when the bond is threatened, feels justified in disposing of what one feels one owns. this tragicly can also extend to the children of the relationship as well. it's a pattern that repeats over and over the world around. men being the most frequent perpetrators.
those who have adoration and praise inordinately heaped upon them do tend to get an inflated sense of what they own, but that sense is certainly not limited to them.
"Beauty walks a razor's edge, someday I'll make her mine"...permanently.
Yeah he should have just clubbed her to death with his artificial legs. That way he could at least claim restless leg syndrome.
Would have been more beleivable than the intruder story he told.
You never can tell, I know of a woman who was shot three times, as I remember, who, according to the coroner, committed suicide?
Wasn't it Billy Sol Estes, who was accused of killing a federal agent? Instead of going to jail, the agent supposedly, shot himself in the back, several times. His death was ruled a "suicide." I have to look that up and get the facts. I remember my Mom telling me that story years ago. I'll be back.
Henry Marshall was found dead in his pickup truck. He wwas shot five times by his owwn rifle. The sheriff called his death a suicide. Just look up Billy Sol Estes. Nice guy from Texas LOL
Regardless of how or why this happened it is a crying shame.Two families are now heartbroken.Two young lives,one gone and the other under the magnifying glass.My condolences to both of their families and friends.
alumnet....this was not an accident, but you are ignorant of how to handle a weapon in self defense. REAL life is not like a video game where you go for hte bonus "Head Shot" one shot kill. Anyone with gun training is taught that if you are firing your weapon in self defense, you squeeze the trigger AT LEAST twice. And if you truly feel threatened, you keep firing until you can clearly see the attacker is down. You would be a complete IDIOT to fire once and hope that your air was good, AND that the bullet didn't get deflected off something, or even just go through cleanly. Hell..even a shot that finds its target could easily allow the one that got shot to last long enough to pull out a weapon of their own and fire back.
Yeah i gree... the prison would prolly confiscate those blades... Oscar could sharpen them, and use those blades as skhanks in a prison riot situation.
Who cares about his stupid Olympic career. He murdered his girlfriend. Shot her 4 times the story said. Difficult to pass that off as accidental. Another hopped up on steroids jock thinking he's above the law. His life will be going through some major changes very soon. So many of these guys do amazingly stupid things, but murder is over the top . Keeps happening and people keep making excuses.
@Hopeful American
I don't understand why your comment was collapsed... shows how much truth is in your statement about too PC. I couldn't agree more with what you had said. He definitely should not have been allowed to compete in the Olympics in the first place. And after participating in the Olympic Games, how is it he was allowed to participate in the Paralympic Games? He should have had to choose between one or the other at the very least, not be allowed participate in both.
Woah!
Yep. I saw it too. That little tuning dial could grab more attention than any headline they could have come up with.
I'm sure Harrison Ford would disapprove of him using the name Blade Runner. <que Vangelis music>
It's 11am on the east coast Grendels. Your namesake movie has just come on the Sci-Fi channel.
Such a sad story. The couple will never hear the pitter patter of little paddles running around the house.
Woah... I could grate a block of cheddar cheeze with Edward James Olmos' face
Stop trying to pull our leg, Pistorius. Your story will never stand up in court. Give it up and confess, you don't have a leg to stand on.
Lou-665152
Stop trying to pull our leg, Pistorius. Your story will never stand up in court. Give it up and confess, you don't have a leg to stand on.
#5 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:54 AM EST
this is great, sick twisted humor, with my morning coffee, i love the internet...
I have a new found faith in Humans now! LOL Perfect!
Well played, Lou.
I daresay the spring has gone out of his step.
Hey guys, stop cutting this guy off at the knees. He can use a leg up.
C'mon people, be nice....he just needs to stand up like a normal man and face the music because he just cant run away from the situation :b
You all are despicable. Shame on you.
OHH YOU PEOPLE!! -- He clearly could not run away from the law!! :)
Clearly he couldnt Stand his girlfriend just Walking away.
When he goes to trial, the shoe won't fit! He'll get off like OJ.
I find your, and other comments regarding his double amputation of his legs to be absolutely disgusting and mean spirited towards all who have lost their limbs. Being without his legs, being a person who has a disability, has zero to do with his actions towards his girlfriend.
Martha, they're clearly juveniles; probably 7 year old 3rd graders
Not at all. I suggest you read "Don't Worry, He Won't Get Far on Foot", the autobiography of paraplegic John Callahan. Or, better yet, check out the cartoon John penned that inspired the title to the book.
I have a few of John's books. Great "dark" humor. For those who don't know, John is a cartoonist who pokes fun at everything.
Look you guys, I think your off on the wrong foot here, wait till the other shoe drops and he gives his side to the story. Or, maybe their just pulling his leg in all this, and they just want to question him. You know, see if the shoe fits. Give him a chance to stand up for himself and he'll be back on his feet in no time...No pun intended.
Reeva woke up one morning and realized she was tired of getting goosed by a dude who was half man, half duck...
Oh my GOD! If a burglar that beautiful was coming to rob my house she could take anything she wanted! Never shoot first if you are dating a model! This is tragic on many levels.
Tragic but unfortunately all too predictable when there's a gun in the house, even in the hands of someone who claims to know how to use it.
By your logic, 40% of America should be dead, since 40% of homes have a gun in the house.
Nothing wrong with DKS's logic. Gun in the house is a dangerous situation.
Very much so if you are an uninvited intruder or a suicidal person. Not so much if you are a sane and responsible gun owner. I admit that I may be killed with my own gun. If that happens, they'll have to beat me to death with it, because it's gonna be empty.
If you have a home invasion which are almost always violent and ugly and almost always involve a criminal with a gun do you want to try and hide, hope you can get to a phone (which many times they have already cut the line) then wait for a man with a gun to come save you or would you rather tell the intruder that if he attempts to come through the door you're behind it's going to be an ugly scene for him?? Trust me if you really are armed it will 'show' in your voice and he will wonder if it's worth dying for.. Taking guns from good people isn't the answer.. Do I have a great answer? No I don't.. Do I think shooting people is the answer? No I don't it should be the very last thing to do after exhausting every last hope of getting rid of a criminal in your home first.
Wrong answer. Some freak comes into my house univited, they are fair game. They don't come into your house to try and find their way back out. They mean to do harm to your and your family.
As for this clown, my first impression was that it is the "if I can have her then no one can" crap. I mean, look at her, she was a beautiful girl with a great career starting up and we all know that a lot of men cannot tolerate women having a more fantastic career than they. It reminds me of the Deborah Stratten story. Guess we'll hear what the courts decide down the road.
Devon - home invasions are not very common, you know this right?
Jessica-1170252,
I don't know anyone that died in a car crash, but I still wear a seat belt. I don't know anyone whose home has burnt down, but I sill have smoke detectors and a fire extinguisher. A gun is just a tool, like anything else. If home invasion is not a concern for you, fine, don't buy a gun; nobody cares. But don't you dare try to take away my right to defend myself.
@nobland....yes, a gun in the house is a dangerous situation....for the thief, rapist, or any other crook in today's society!!
Jessica, actually there are an average of 8000 home invasions in the US every day that is 2, 920,000 a year...sounds pretty common to me. One in five homes will be invaded. According the US department of Justice, 38% of ALL assualts and 60% of rapes occur during home invasions. Consider that for a moment... source www.fbi.gov
Jessica: Clearly, men need guns so they can protect themselves from their girlfriends. That's all this guy was trying to do. :P
Having a criminal in the house with no gun is also dangerous........ which senerio would you prefer?
Jessica - the article clearly says that (according to the US State Dept) crime in the South African cities is 'critical', and violent home invasions occur at an alarmingly high rate.
Your description of the crime as "not very common" seems incorrect.
Mike, I am amazed that you knew no one who was killed in a car crash and that you know no one whose house burned down. I don't have any argument with you (I, too, have and use smoke detectors, seat belts and firearms), but I thought I'd just take a moment to salute your remarkably good luck. I don't think I know anyone who has not known someone to die in a car or someone whose house burned down. Fortunately, though, I don't know anyone whose home was invaded. knock, knock (and click).
Actually you are more likely to use your gun in self defense, or defending someone else than in the commission of a crime or accidental murder. By a degree of thousands.
Mr. Burns, Are you addressing me? If so, I certainly hope youre right.
The comments on our NewsVine are getting WAYY TOO PREDICTABLE !!
On every single article.
And, I WISH "journalists" would stop calling these articles "stories" !! Quit using the word "story"!!
Gated communities should be illegal.
lol...and what is your incongrous logic behind that comment?
How DARE people who are more successful that you are (meaning 99.999% of the world) live the way THEY want!
If this goes to court, he won't have a leg to stand on.
Bad so bad. But funny.
No, it's not
Good morning Observing 2. Glad to see you up and about. I feel great you have adopted me.
He's not a stand up type of guy obviously.
Does 2 half legs make a whole?
Are you 6? Or 7? Should we make jokes when YOUR sister is shot dead??
Q. RedRover "Does 2 half legs make a whole?"
A. Sometimes. But it is really hard to beat a nice "pair".
Too easy!
Well... Oscar sort of does have that "PePe LePew" thing going on with those springy blades...
Are we going through a news shortage in the USA? Or this story getting so much attention here because a gun was involved. The morning news can't seem to get enough of this story.... Ok it should be reported but it certainly isn't the biggest news in the USA today....
bill, and, yet it was the biggest story in the world that he ran, without collecting a medal, in the olympics? hmmm. what news should be reported, and what news not in your view?
Yes, but you cared enough to read & comment.
I don't read sports; think sports is totally useless, but I don't care if it's in the news, I just bypass it and read other things.
I don't understand these guys who sit around, read articles, then comment by asking why this is news. seems to be a question asked in every story. Here, it is particularly interesting, as this is the lead story in every market around the world today. what's up with these guys?
Well Bill, I reckon it's news because they know you'll read it, care enough to respond, and spend time on their web page. Ya think?
A major athlete killing someone has always been newsworthy. Remember OJ?
Not all athletes can be celebrated after murdering people like Ray Lewis was all during the Superbowl.
NewsVine is the new National Enquirer
Mistaken for a burglar? Seriously? The woman is in and out of that house all the time. What a BS line by this guy. Of course he is innocent until proven guilty. But there is little he could say to convince me otherwise.
And will the gun defenders quit whining about news stories involving the killing of innocents by guns. Get over it. Gun deaths in this day and age are news and the topic can't be swept under the rug.
Actually in the US, there are more stabbing deaths than gun deaths. (Thanks to big city thugs) Where are those headlines?
AnotherMiddleClass: I'd like to know where you get that statistic. According to what I've seen, death by firearms far outstrip stabbing deaths.
Source: Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Uniform Crime Reports for the United States, 1997, 2007 and 2011.
Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004888.html#ixzz2KsZ9OjH1
ANOTHER MIDDLE CLASS- you pulled those BS stats out of your a*ss. Gun violence is higher.
And how do you figure U.S. stabbing are the result of "big city thugs"? You are so typical. Knives are used all over this country in violent acts- especially domestic and angry drunken fights.
free747;
So whom do suppose is responsible for most of the violent crime in the U.S.? The Girl Scouts? Considering our drug culture, gang culture, Alien culture,in most parts of the U.S., it couldn't possibly be any of these people, right? It must by Mr. and Mrs. Law abiding citizen doing it, it that it? Stereotypes are only stereotypes when it isn't true. Drive through the urban core of any U.S. major city and see for yourself. Stop drinking the kool-aid and see the country and the world for what it is.
Hey gangmembers have 2nd amendment rights too... maybe they're the well armed militia envisioned by the founding fathers. I'm sure they wouldn't mind their slaves doing the fighting for them. :P
Maine..then how abot we also devote as much media time/space to al the crimes that law abiding citizens with legal guns PREVENT? Because that happens FAR more often than murders by guns. Around 3000 times EVERY DAY.
But you don't like to talk about that becuase it doesn't suit your anti-Constitutional whining.
Yeah...that and claw hammers and a whole bunch of other stuff that is beyond the reasonable humans ability to understand why anyone would listen to others whine about its misuse. Yeah
Men do this kind of thing all the time. Most are control freaks at best, and if they can't have someone, no one can is the mentality of a dolt with low self esteem. It must be some kind of evil animal instinct from way back that so many men are still like this. They don't think of a woman as another person. They think someone is stealing their freaken' rib bone when the try to leave!
Carol, as a woman, you are aware how your "fair" sex can emotionally manipulate a man and cause him to do crazy things. What makes men want women anyway? Women own the goods! Many beautiful women will latch onto a financially successful man just for the big payoff when she decides the time is right. The liberal, feminist court system encourages this type of behavior by granting females huge awards and feigning sympathy for their "plight." Having said that, I know full well that there are women who are denied a fair shake, but that's probably never in the realm of celebrety relationships. It's a bonus for divorce lawyers knowing that the husband's, or boyfriend's, deep pockets are there for the picking. It's an industry, pure and simple! So stop blaming the stupid guy. You really believe that this gorgeous model would have "fallen in love" with this guy if he wasn't famous and financially well off?
My, my, Carol, what the misandrist we are.
Carol: I actually agree with you that there are a number of crimes like that out there (and men far outstrip women statistically as violent offenders), but you badly overstate your case to say that "most" men are like that.
Carol...angry much? Burn bras much? Date much? wow, what an androgenic commentary.
Carol, how many times divorced???? Double digits I bet!! Playing on the other team now???
lol Carol -- Sounds like you haven't gotten laid in a while.
If this is a case of murder, nothing justifies murder. With that said, a man only has enough blood in their body to operate one head at a time.
Remember the Romans....women to have kids with...men to love. No messy mess there.
Carol;
Perhaps you should marry a gay guy. That way you will have the sensitive, passive girl type you clearly seek. But watch out, he might hit you with his purse if you argue and barrow you undies. OR, you can always go lesbian. You sound pretty "butch" anyway. Clearly you have a low opinion of men to begin with. But then, you might look in the mirror, with your attitude, it's no wonder you can't get along with them. There are always two sides to every story, it ain't politically correct, by it is true.
get laid much? NOT
Carol, it's written into the DNA of women how to judge and evaluate men. The onus of picking a good one is up to you.
Long ago, our ancestors determined that letting the most dangerous, psychopaths among us claim all the breeding privileges didn't make for a good society (or offspring) -- so we threw most those dudes into a tar pit.
It's your choice now. There are plenty of women who have never been laid hands on, physically threatened, or even had to think of the possibility because they screen out the psychopaths, abusive, anger management dudes at first sign.
Still many women find the brooding caveman attributes attractive. They see anger, lack of control, as signs of dominance, passion, or power they think they can control.
But if you choose to play with fire, don't come crying when you get burned. Even descent guys are still guys. Its not in our interests to mitigatge the consequences of poorly choosing a mate, to protect and police your liasons with a dangerous male, or support you when it all goes to heck. When you eventually get burned, it serves as a cautionary tale, that helps better men everywhere.
Yeah...nothing sexist or sterotypical about your comment...please...continue...
I wonder if she was sneaking-in, to surprise him? Because it was Valentines day. Pretty tragic is that's the case. Otherwise his story seems a little lame. But its possible its true, I guess.
Personally I think it should be illegal to shoot someone without warning, even when breaking in. Just for this reason, it might not be a burglar, and a warning would have saved a life. And if it is a burglar, they should have an opportunity to give up.
Shooting someone without warning, to me, is cowardly, and murder.
PS: Gated communities should be illegal. Its a form of classism.
Have you considered moving to China? Oh wait, we're becoming China. Stay put actually.
If you are going to accuse me of being poor and/or envious, you would be wrong. Im neither, not even close.
I just believe in equality. And I think anyone should be allowed to walk ANY public street.
BTW: China is rampant with Classism, and a corporation is a perfect model of communism. Its got a leader, everyone works for the company. Everyone has their station, with a level of pay. There's no democracy. And if you don't like it, the only option is to leave.
Not at all actually. I'm all for people should be able to do whatever they want, so long as they are not infringing upon the rights of others. I'm all for the protection of life, liberty, and property.
You can't legislate accidents, the criminal, or the diseased. In other words, ^&%$ happens. What you are proposing is further legislating the US into communism. Remember: Every law passed takes away a right.
Be careful what you wish for. You may get it.
So the Berlin Wall was just a tourist attraction? The main problem with communism is that you can't leave.
While I will wait for the information that the Pretoria Police provide, no one has mentioned that this "couple" - the article states they were only together a few months, were known to the Pretoria police for "domestic issues," and that the neighbors in this "gated" community had heard them fight before and heard them fighting before the gunshots - how could she be sneaking in if they were in the middle of a fight?
Perhaps someone familiar to "gated, exclusive" communities in Pretoria, South Africa could tell us, just how "safe" are these communities - my guess is that compared to a simple guard station here in the US - these places are difficult to "sneak" into.
Condolences to the family of this young women.
More...there is no way you are successful in ANYTHING you have tried with your ignorance. Gated communities are PRIVATE PROPERTIES, idiot.
Look...it is not anyone else's fault tht you are worhtless to society..no...a BURDEN to soceity, meaning the world will be better off hte day you fianlly give up the loneliness and kill yourself. and your mom throws a party. IT is nobody else's faut that you don't matter to society and therefore don't get paid a lot.
What color is the sky in your little world?...?
Really? Here's why:
-It's NBC
-It's a known athlete
-It's based on a gun death
Questions?
And, don't leave out generating interest in the plight(s) of the physically challenged. Surprise, lol, they have problems just like everyone else but because they're physically challenged, handicapped, they must be given special consideration and for that reason I doubt that he'll be found guilty of anything, just another way to show how socially sensitive we all are.
Yeah, those lucky ducky handicapped people have had it easy too long, what with their special privilege wheelchair ramps and braille books!
He won't be tried in the U.S.... he'll be tried in South Africa.... I have no idea what their court system is like..
I just checked out Fox News. It's their top story as well so the wole "liberal" thng ain't quite working for you.
DUH...... Because Oscar Pistorius is world famous!!!!
Yeah, he's world famous, so, why is he world famous? Could it be because of his handicap? Sure, he's achieved a lot, so? I'm not trying to be insensitive here, I just think that people should get credit for what they've done and being handicapped, physically challenged shouldn't be a criteria. Thing is, I've known some who were amputees and the last thing they wanted was to be given special consideration, aside from the usual practical things like ramps and handicapped parking spaces. And, lol, I've known some in school who were the most antagonistic people around; Smart mouthing, pushing their way through crowds, being obnoxious and daring anyone to do anything about it. Lol, I knew one kid in high school, missing a leg and on crutches, he would knock books out of another kids arms; "Sorry, lost my balance." Yeah, sure. Going to the cafeteria during lunch period he would go to the head of the line. Well, nobody denied him that priviledge but, man, he sure looked smug about it. A couple of times I carried his tray for him. Pretty soon, "Hey John, c'mere and carry my tray." Tell him to kiss your ass and you would have a lunchroom monitor, a teacher, lecturing you on responsibility. Yeah well, whatever, I give them more consideration than a normal person but I draw the line when I get the impression that it's my duty, and that I'm there to serve them.
For all thoses bla bla guns kill and they need to be headlines. Knives kill more in the US. where are those headlines?
OJ Simpson's ex-wife was killed with a knife. Are you trying to claim that there were no headlines about that?
"Pretoria and other South African cities are rated critical for crime." Owning a gun is a natural and normal neccessity of life there.
AQ: So your explanation for why FOX News is also currently running this as their top story is?
Of COURSE it's on FOX...and the AP...and Reuters. The question was posed in an NBC write up. That's all.
Diogenese,
Matthew White, former Penn basketball player was stabbed to death by his girl friend while sleeping a couple of days ago. I found that story with the rest of the MSNBC sports stories. I'm pretty sure it wasn't headlined here. There is definitely a anti-gun agenda associated with NBC.
@Bob fu --
Not even a close comparison -- nice try, though. Nobody knows who Matthew White is . . . EVERYONE around the WORLD knows who Pistorius is. Plus, from a strictly news perspective, guns are a hot topic of discussion right now, so I hardly think you can call this part of an "anti-gun agenda" at NBC . . . give me a break.
STOP POSTING THIS LIE! GUN DEATHS ARE HIGHER.....
and you have already been sent a link to the crime stats page to prove it!
Really SD. Think what you want. It doesn't matter. Diogenese had to go back to OJ to headline a knife murder and the one I mentioned happened 2 days ago.
My point was the player was murdered by his girlfriend while sleeping. It never made a headlined story, even though she killed him because she found out he was viewing child pornography on his PC. You didn't know that because it wasn't a "Editors Pick".
You really don't think that's headline stuff? Because you never heard of Matthew White is pointless. Lots of people did and to assume everybody knows this Olympian is wrong. I betting if you walked out on the streets 2 days ago, most people would say "who"? Nice try.
Matthew White was a former basketball player at University of Pennsylvania, and for the Portland Trail Blazers. He led Penn to the Final 4 back in 1979.
Until the Colorado theater murders and Sandy Hook murderstook center stage, and rightfully so because they were horrendous displays of violence, the White murder story would've been page 1.
If you feel there's no gun control agenda, why mention gun control in the SOTU address? Please.
Bob Fu, you're not serious, are you? You have the need to explain who this Matthew White is, and yet you try to make the comparison between his level of fame and Oscar Pistorius? The same Oscar who made news around the world just 6 month ago? Serious?
No. 'Please' to you!
free..the only liar is you. Your idiots stats are counting suicides. And even YOUR mind is not so worhtless as to think that people who shoot themselves on purpose would instead wake up the next morning and change their lives for hte better if only they didn't have a gun to kill themselves.
Wow, I can't even wrap my mind around this.
So where are all the people who hate Chris Brown because he beat up Rhianna? This guy shot his girl twice. He beat her many times,that's why he was arrested and they argued that day. She knew not to sneak up on his craziness. People with issues are everywhere, are every race and color and nationality. Crazy people should not have guns.
Waht on earth are you talking about? What does Chris Brown have to do with this? People are mad at isorius, just as they are mad at the subhuman piece of garbage Chris Brown who has REPEATEDLY shown himself to be unworthy of living a free life outside of jail. The Rihanna beating was not the first time he has shown his violent side, and it certainly wasn't the last time.
Hmm ... the neighbors reported domestic violence previously and may have heard something earlier in the evening and around the time of the shooting. Sounds like a Domestic Violence case gone horribly wrong.
So sad....beautifull girl.
Hay, Give the guy a break: He couldn't just "Kick her out"
Ouch!
All you can say is ouch? How dumb.
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When the investigation is complete, there will be consensus that he does not have a leg to stand on.
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Two shots mean you wan't to make sure !
Always double tap, but at least identify the target first.
Ooooh . . . Mr. Self-impressed Gun Nut throws his jargon around. Tap this.
Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. In the military, you're trained to double tap your target to be sure you've taken it out, BUT make sure you identify it as a threat before you squeeze.
Bob Fu;
The military trains to "double tap" because they adopted the piddling 9X19mm cartridge, inherently not a good man stopper. I carry a .45 because shooting twice is just stupid.
Why don't all the arm chair Sherlock homes, gun grabbers, man haters and general idiots wait for the South African police to sort this out? And by the way, This is South Africa,know, NOT the U.S., the GOP, NRA, Demoncrats, or U.S. laws do not apply. It's South Africa, I think they can deal with this with out all the misguided Americans opinions. Listening to you people argue and make you various misinformed, biased points, I find myself wondering why the death rate the U.S. isn't higher still, perhaps Darwinism will take hold.
SDAim;
Next crisis you have dial 911, we'll see how impressed you are getting you guts stomped out for the time it takes the cops to show up. Guess you will thug impressed by the time they do, If they don't kill you that is. Tap that.
he shot her 4 times...
Very confusing headline. It sounds like an Oscar winner from the movie Blade Runner was charged with murder. The only reason I read the story was to figure out what a Pistorius was.
I agree. The headline reads, "'Blade Runner' charged with murder after galpal shot." Galpal? NBC, you are not the National Enquirer.
WTF? Who even says the word "galpal"?
Clearly most of the posters here haven't talked to South Africans about life in SA. Every white or Indian person I've met from SA have expressed utter horror at the domestic crime situation, how extremely dangerous things are looking at moving their families out before the place gets 'Mugabied'. They have crime there that makes inner city crime here look like a cake-walk.
You have a President there who thinks you can prevent AIDs with a shower and a major political figure (Julius Malema) advocating shooting white people and backing land redistribution. People not familiar with the present situation should set aside their preconceptions about things and realize this a country that is incredibly dangerous and adopting some ostrich head-in-the-sand attitude towards crime there gets rural farmers and those of wealth and means killed and kidnapped.
The place is closer to Latin American countries where you hear about rich people getting kidnapped or a random dozen people getting machetted to death.
Its their own fault. Poverty breeds crime. If they did more for the poor, they wouldnt be getting run out of their own country.
You reap what you sow.
I couldn't have said this better myself-AYC1982. SA is a very dangerous country. The government has run the country down with the Cape Province being the only fairly safe area left. My family that is still there can't even go out during the day. Women and children are raped daily and killed. They also believe AIDS is cured by raping white women. Pretoria is not safe, this man slept with a gun in his bedside and a gun at his window. Most people world wide haven't a clue what is going on in that country. If it truly was an accident, god be with him and everyone involved.
MoreJustice,
" Poverty breeds crime". I agree. Now explain Wall St to the rest of us. You reap what THEY sow.
AYC, not intending to get into a "Oneupmanship" game about whose area is more criminal but I doubt very much that any city, not a native village, in South Africa has a neighborhood, area that can come close to being as BAD as the South Side of Chicago which is where I grew up, lol. South Halsted St., 6000 block up to and including Halsted and 63rd St. And, has high schools as BAD as Englewood and Marshall high schools. Yeah well, it's funny how a lot of people take pride in how BAD their city is, how corrupt and unmanageable it is. Lol, it's like with weather; "Man, you don't know what bad weather is until you lived where I did!"
ARE YOU KIDDING?!! You racists are something else
Lol, replying to your (3). I did grow up on the South Side of Chicago, went to Holmes Elementary and one semester at Englewood high school. When I lived on 5th Ave, West I went to a year of grade school that was in Marshall High School. I was one of maybe five White kids in a class of all Black kids and that experience alone should have made me a racist but it didn't. You on the other hand seem to be carrying a chip around on your shoulder.
Free747;
What is it with you? You seem proud to be form the most violent place on earth. What?, you can't be bothered with the notion that some places, actually MANY places on earth are more violent than the U.S.? Goes against your gun grab agenda, does it? I waited for those who know first had to comment of SA. Here's an idea, try reading U.N., Human rights watch, or Amnesty international reports on the goings on in SA. Unless YOU have lived there, how can you possibly know? I've seen you explain the Vietnam war in other posts, again, If YOU weren't there, YOU don't know.
I know several people from South Africa, they left because of the redistribution of wealth and property, the murders, the rapes, the governments sponsored, systemic killing of White and Indian South Africans. Even Black South Africans are fleeing the country, if you aren't from the right tribe, know the right people, they too are victimized, brutalized raped and murdered at rates that make the worst U.S. areas seem positively tranquil. The African people are extraordinarily superstitious, so the belief that raping white women might cure aids, only justifies their barbarism. Here's an idea, go live there for a while and report back to us how it goes. If they don't kill you stepping off the plane, that is.
So True free747. This is a prime example of how these racists continually justify the actions of Whites, no matter how horrible, with remarks about Blacks being violent. Somehow their violence always has an excuse, an explanation or some extraneous reason that makes their acts of violence less deplorable than the violence done by Blacks.
To talk about crime in South Africa, take a look at the decades of violence the South African Whites perpetrated on the Blacks of that country.
This story is about the arrest of a man on the suspicion that he shot and killed his live-in girlfriend. This particular man is accused of this particular act of violence and right away racists find a way to blame Blacks.
Open your closed minds, look around at the world and see yourselves.
and so many beautiful brilliant altruistic humanist loving kind virtuous souls such as myself are single where are the women worth that to late realize the sick pathology of their attractions otherwise I have to make all gay woman happy starting with my dancing finishing with my cuddling laughing all the way deeply, merry can women are taught to like things hate, weakness of power and bad expensive objects why perhaps... Lieutenant Columbo would say , Pardon me Mam..?"
One should never enter anothers home unannounced.
Give me a break. With a history of domestic violence..you really believe this wasn't murder?
Give me a break then. How about we wait for all the facts before we show our stupidity.
I knew I wouldn't have to read far before the peanut gallery who are judge and jury came out without knowing all the facts.
We have a thing called due process and innocent until proven guilty. I know it is an inconveinance for you trolls but let's consider why we have these things before yelling guilty before you know the facts.