What's "god" got to do with the pope?

"God" doesn't "love us with no beginning and no end" because there's no such thing as "God".

All you religious people are a bunch of lunatics who haven't woken yet to the 21st century and continue to actually believe in prophets, angels and wizards as if we're still living in the dark ages.

Alant98,

"there's no such thing as "God""

Perhaps the truth of the matter is that there is no such thing as you. After all, in the grand scheme of things, you and I are nothing at all. Think about that. What are you in compared to the universe as a whole?

"Where are you going?" Saint Peter

QUO VADIS? QUO VADIS? QUO VADIS?

This pope is the greatest catastrophe of many befalling the Holy Roman Catholic Church, in modern times.

Popes ask much suffering from the faithful, yet this Benedict XVI the 'Best Dressed Pope' runs into the lap of luxurious retirement!

XXXV. And as they considered these things, Xanthippe took knowledge of the
counsel of her husband with Agrippa, and sent and showed Peter, that he might
depart from Rome. And the rest of the brethren, together with Marcellus,
besought him to depart. But Peter said unto them: Shall we be runaways,
brethren? and they said to him: Nay, but that thou mayest yet be able to serve
the Lord. And he obeyed the brethren's voice and went forth alone, saying: Let
none of you come forth with me, but I will go forth alone, having changed the
fashion of mine apparel. And as he went forth of the city, he saw the Lord
entering into Rome. And when he saw him, he said: Lord, whither goest thou thus
(or here)? And the Lord said unto him: I go into Rome to be crucified. And Peter
said unto him: Lord, art thou (being) crucified again? He said unto him: Yea,
Peter, I am (being) crucified again. And Peter came to himself: and having
beheld the Lord ascending up into heaven, he returned to Rome, rejoicing, and
glorifying the Lord, for that he said: I am being crucified: the which was about
to befall Peter. The Acts of Peter

POPE Quo Vadis? Where are you going?

Well said, Jupiter3 !!

What are you talking about Mickey? Alant98 absolutely does exist, his post is proof. Someone who calls himself Alant98 posted that post. Can "god" post anything? No, "god" can't do anything, there is zero evidence that this "god" is able to have any affect at all on anything. If you want to say there is a god, then the onus on you is to prove that god is more than a figment of your imagination.

leroy brown: "je pence dont je suis"...Descartes..."I think therefore I am". You have a right to your opinion...but so does everyone else...you do not have a corner on opinions or beliefs.

leroy,

"What are you talking about Mickey? Alant98 absolutely does exist, his post is proof."

Yes, you might say he exists for a very brief moment until they plant him under the ground and he becomes food for worms, beetles and other creeping, crawling things. Then the question of whether or not God exists will cease to matter for him since he will no longer exist himself to ask such a question. The same is true for all of us. We are not as important as we think. In fact, the Bible, which I'm sure you think is just full of foolishness, asks a very good question in that respect at Psalm 144:3, 4: "O, Lord, what is man that thou dost regard him, or the son of man that thou dost think of him? Man is like a breath, his days are like a passing shadow." When seen from the grand sceme of things, that is so very true.

janie-2955876

Well said, Jupiter3 !!

Janie thank you. We can do even more, with a good song.

HELP STREET BEGGARS.

U2

You speak of signs and wonders
I need something other
I would believe if I was able
But I'm waiting on the crumbs from your table

TIME_4_PEACE

Your God has a hell of a way to show me his love. This world is a complete mess. If there was your kind of God it wouldn't be like this.

I ask you, what makes people think we are being tested? What's the point? If I don't pass the test I wind up burning in hell forever? What's the point?

Do any of you God lovers ever see that this thing about God's love and mercy is a sales gimmik made up by religions so as to have power over you.

If there really was a God as told us by the Pope and his posse, the Vatican would be struck by lightning.

Pippo Schillaci,

"What's the point?"

Yes, exactly! What's the point in even living to begin with? There are only two things in life we can be absolutely certain of: birth and death. You can be absolutely certain that you were born and you can be absolutely certain that you will die. Everything in between is doubtful and subject to questioning.

Good riddance to another symbol of one of the most corrupt organizations on the planet. This character is getting out of Dodge when the getting is good -- before the indictments for facilitating child abuse come home to roost on him. May he rot.

All you need to know about the catholic "church" is that they are to this very hour still protecting priests who raped children, to this very day use children for forced labor, but yet are always whining about gays, birth control, abortion etc and constantly seek to exploit the poor through fear and intimidation.

There's a reason hispanics are leaving the catholic church for small charismatic churches. The catholic church no longer provides the emotional high, it sucks to much life from you. People are tired of being told they need to suffer by people wearing silk robes and gold crowns.

The pope is a child molesting nazi, nothing else.

Here ya go. Here's how much the RCC loves the "children of god". Not only did they hide the pedophilia within the church... they actually had SLAVES until 1996. Yes... SLAVES in Ireland... 30,000+ of them.... women and children. I'm sure their GOD condoned this, right ? PHUCK the RRC and EVERY POPE who allowed these crimes against humanity that they have committed repeatedly and incessantly since their inception.

When Singer Sinead O’Connor tore a picture of the Pope on SNL, Americans were never told why.....In Ireland, they knew.

For crimes as petty as being too beautiful or talking back.....girls found themselves in a living hell.

Catholic Church enslaved 30,000 Irish women as forced unpaid labor in Magdalene Laundries until 1996

What a horrific story. The Irish Prime Minister gave a partial apology today for the government’s role in a 74-year scandal in which, a new official government report says, over 10,000 women were forced to work without pay at commercial laundries called Magdalene Laundries, operated by the Catholic Church for “crimes” as small as not paying a train ticket.

Wikipedia notes that the estimate of the number of women who were used as forced slave labor by the Catholic Church in Ireland alone goes as high as 30,000 over the entire time the Magdalene laundries were in operation.

The last Magdalene laundry closed in 1996.

Women were locked in, couldn’t leave Magdalene Laundries for months, sometimes years

The women were locked in and not permitted to leave. And if they tried to get away, the cops would catch them and bring them back. They were quite literally Catholic slave labor working for the government and even Guinness, which would pay the laundries for the women’s slave labor.

Half of the girls enslaved in these Catholic Church prisons were under the age of 23. The youngest entrant was 9 years old.

Singer Sinead O’Connor was perhaps the most famous Magdalene Laundry slave

Singer Sinead O’Connor was forced to work in a Magdalene Laundry in Dublin:

When I was a young girl, my mother — an abusive, less-than-perfect parent — encouraged me to shoplift. After being caught once too often, I spent 18 months in An Grianán Training Centre, an institution in Dublin for girls with behavioral problems, at the recommendation of a social worker. An Grianán was one of the now-infamous church-sponsored “Magdalene laundries,” which housed pregnant teenagers and uncooperative young women. We worked in the basement, washing priests’ clothes in sinks with cold water and bars of soap. We studied math and typing. We had limited contact with our families. We earned no wages. One of the nuns, at least, was kind to me and gave me my first guitar.

No apology from the Catholic Church

Absent from any of the media reports on the scandal that I could find was an apology from the Catholic Church which operated the Magdalene laundries and made handsome profits from contracts with government and hotels. Oh, found one. It seems the Catholic Church blew the women off. I know, you’re as surprised as I am:

Victims of the child sex abuse scandals that have rocked the Irish Catholic Church have received an apology and compensation, but no one has taken responsibility for what happened in the laundries. Cardinal Sean Brady, the most senior Catholic cleric in Ireland, met with Justice for Magdalenes in 2010. He said “by today’s standards much of what happened at that time is difficult to comprehend” but that it was a matter for the religious orders who ran the laundries to deal with. The religious orders have declined to meet the women.

The Irish Cardinal wasn’t interested in hearing from people who were hurt and abused — if not sexually, certainly physically and mentally, by the Catholic Church. And it’s not the Catholic Church’s fault. Where have we heard that story before?

The laundries were run by nuns, many of whom treated the women sent to work there as slaves:

Senator McAleese’s inquiry found that half of the girls and women put to work in the laundries were under the age of 23 and 40%, more than 4,000, spent more than a year incarcerated.

Fifteen percent spent more than five years in the laundries while the average stay was calculated at seven months.

The youngest death on record was 15, and the oldest 95, the report found.

The Irish state is also implicated in the scandal because the police would take women to the asylums after arresting them for trivial offenses and would return runaways.

The story of the Magdalene laundries shows what happens when an institution — in this case the church and the government — is considered beyond criticism. It probably isn’t a coincidence that the last of the laundries closed in 1996, shortly after the first wave of the Catholic pedophile priest scandals hit Ireland.

Let me reiterate that for a moment. The Catholic Church had slaves as late as 1996.

“It changed me as a person to authority, God forgive me I learned to hate people then”

Here are some of the testimonials of the women who served as forced Catholic slaves. You can find them in theofficial report:

“The only thing was I had appendicitis and asked [named nun] could I go to bed and she wouldn’t let me”.

Some, but not all women reported that their hair had been cut on entry to the laundry. Some described this as an upsetting and degrading experience.

“T’was the ultimate humiliation for you. It changed me as a person to authority, God forgive me I learned to hate people then”.

One woman said that in the Magdalene Laundry in which she was, “You could write once a month but the nun would read the letters”.

This is one is pure torture:

Another very common grievance of the women who shared their stories with the Committee – particularly those who had previously been in Industrial or Reformatory Schools – was that there was a complete lack of information about why they were there and when they would get out. None of these women were aware of the period of supervision which followed discharge from industrial or reformatory school.

Due to this lack of information and the fact that they had been placed in an institution among many older women, a large number of the women spoke of a very real fear that they would remain in the Magdalene Laundry for the rest of their lives. Even if they left the Laundries after a very short time, some women told the Committee that they were never able to fully free themselves
of this fear and uncertainty.

Victims reject Irish PM’s apology

The victims have rejected the Prime Minster’s “apology,” which does sound somewhat lame:

“To those residents who went into the Magdalene Laundries through a variety of ways, 26pc from state intervention or state involvement, I am sorry for those people that they lived in that kind of environment,” Mr Kenny said in parliament in Dublin today.

“I want to see that those women who are still with us, anywhere between 800 and 1000 at max, that we should see that the state provides for them with the very best of facilities and supports that they need in their lives.”

Did your defense lawyer write that one up for you?

Here’s Joni Mitchell singing about the Magdalene Laundries: http://youtu.be/kU1Zymqlhko

GEMINI618, You should write a book instead of posting so much here. I would read your book, the stuff you are talking about I never heard before.

Alant98 and Leroy Brown. If you don't beleive in gravity, jump off of a high building. belief or non beleif doesn't make something a fact. Each person can have their belief and should do so without insults. What I have found is many who say they don't beleive in God, really do, they just beleive they are God.

I just love when people scream there is no God. There is no Heaven, there is no Hell. There is no accounting for your actions, there fore you can do what ever you please you with no consequences, no accounting, no day of reckoning. You poor, misguided, lost souls. We God lovers pray for you daily.

so GWEN I take it that you proclaim to be a CHRISTIAN.. how about answering 2 questions for me..

do you hate homosexuals and all they stand for.. Are you a racist..

the pope wants you to pray for him and the next pope...well thank you for the pompous selfish statement we really want to hear a "false godlike" figure or Idol tell us what to think and do...especially if "christards" do about 5 minutes of research on this distgusting organization that claims to be for humanity and so called god. Whether god exist or not, this religion should crumble as all should...take the bible for its word if you like, but supporting organizations hiding behind the bible for their own selfish needs is ludicrious...peace to all and all of humanity...but its time for all religions to be exposed to the masses...80% of the people in the world are sheep following one type of flock or another...ask your self are you a sheep??

This pope is a disgudting pig who created and implemented the cover-up of pedophiles and moved them to fresh victims. He is a criminal.

bishopaccountability.org

@GeneralEclectic

Good riddance to another symbol of one of the most corrupt organizations on the planet. This character is getting out of Dodge when the getting is good -- before the indictments for facilitating child abuse come home to roost on him. May he rot

I agree 100%

If there is one thing to "pray" for, is that this monster and all those like him that have either participated and/or covered up abuse are finally held accountable for all the crimes they have commited and prosecuted to the fullest extend of the law. Unfortunately history has shown that that is unlikely to happen (and when it does happen prosecution tends to fall well below the "fullest" extend of the law). But I can dream...

Why does someone who claims to be the word of 'god' on earth need anyones prayers??? Aren't they already 'chosen' and have knowledge of what 'god' wants for us??? Nothing but CRAP - cruel rapists and pedophiles!!!

The Pope must be in pretty bad shape when he has to ask his followers to pray for him.

May he retire with much more stable health and enjoy peace and harmony in his final years, than compared to whatever overwhelming job stress and impossible demands he is experiencing now.

If you don't have your health and some quiet time for yourself, no amount of pension will make your personal life any more comfortable save for the rich amount of health care you can afford to make the body pains temporarily go away until you die.

karl,

"What I have found is many who say they don't beleive in God, really do, they just beleive they are God."

Exactly! One who states categorically that God does not exist is really claiming to be omniscient (all knowing). But omniscience is a characteristic we attribute only to God. No man is omniscient. The universe is a mighty big place, and no one knows all there is to know about it. Therefore, anyone who says categorically that God does not exist is claiming that he himself is God.

Religious people just Refuse to face the truth. They can't live without this crutch called God. They think they will live"Forever" after death. It would be pretty boring living forever. In fact it would be a Hell instead of a Heaven after awhile. Sitting around praying for eternity. Wow, what a Hell that would be.

Tarzan7,

"It would be pretty boring living forever."

You can say that until it comes time for you to die, at which time you might sing a different tune. Even Voltaire, the arch-enemy of the Catholic Church repented on his deathbed. When death is staring you in the face, the whole world looks different to you.

Besides what gemini said and all the pedophiles they have protected and sent out to rape more children, then asked their parishioners to pay off, there are the prayers he will need to keep him from being in legal trouble. Guess he does want prayers from his faithful...lol.

@Mickey-1983943

karl,

"What I have found is many who say they don't beleive in God, really do, they just beleive they are God."

Exactly! One who states categorically that God does not exist is really claiming to be omniscient (all knowing). But omniscience is a characteristic we attribute only to God. No man is omniscient. The universe is a mighty big place, and no one knows all there is to know about it. Therefore, anyone who says categorically that God does not exist is claiming that he himself is God.

Funny how that "logic" pretty much works on religious people claiming that they "know" that god exists without having any evidence to back it up as well.

You're also making several assumptions that need not necessarily be the case and make your argument fallacious. People that claim that there is no god aren't claiming that they know everything. They are merely claiming that they know that there is no god. You don't need to know everything in order to know a specific thing. And just because YOU attribute omniscience only to your god that does not mean that your god really exists, that he is in fact "omniscient" and that he is the only omnisicent entity--assuming that such a quality even exists.

VisionStorm,

"Funny how that "logic" pretty much works on religious people claiming that they "know" that god exists without having any evidence to back it up as well."

No evidence for the existence of God? The universe exists, does it not? The ultimate assumption behind all human knowledge is that the universe is intelligible. In other words, that we can understand it; make some kind of sense of it all. Now where did that intelligibility in the universe come from if there is no intelligence behind the universe? If the universe is nothing more than the result of a big random explosion, it should be nothing but chaos. But it is not chaos. We are able to make sense of it. How is that? How does order arise out of chaos?

"They are merely claiming that they know that there is no god."

Yes. They are. And it is a claim they have no right to make because they do not know there is no God. They just claim it. You can claim anything you like. It's important to recognize the difference between knowledge, belief, and opinion. They are not all the same.

Pope says...."Pray for me....?" The guy with the funny pointed hat has everything a man could want.....well except women....and he thinks he needs prayers?...What's wrong with this picture........

Jesusmaryjoeseph what the hell is wrong here? Sure I remeMber READING THE WORDS OF jESUS....PRAY FOR THE RICH GUYS WHO HAVE EVERYTHING.......dohhh! I DON'T THINK SO!

@Mickey-1983943

Just because a special group of people claims that their god created the Universe that does not make the Universe evidence that their god exists. That is circular reasoning "'god' created the Universe, and the Universe exists, therefore 'god' exists". The Universe is only evidence of the Universe itself. The same applies to intelligence and order as well. Just because you claim that your god created these things that does not make their existence evidence of your god because you're basing these claims entirely on unsubstantiated assumptions without any evidence or logical arguments to back them up.

All you're saying is "these things cannot exist without 'god' (Why? Because I said so and cannot conceive otherwise), yet they exist, therefore so does god".

I'm just dying to hear from the Godophobe bigots out there, so I have a question for you and be honest...

We all know that the VAST majority of you are good little socialist liberals who think you are so much smarter than those ignorant believing bastards, but ......

How do you reconcile in your heart your slavish worship of Obama when he's a professed Christian???

Obviously you believe that 75 to 80 percent of Americans are suffering from a mass paranoid delusion, and that includes Barack AND Michelle Obama. How were you able to vote for a man who is obviously insane for believing and obviously must be really stupid??

And those of you who want all the Christians thrown in jail, or to lions, or whatever, Are you gonna start at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue??

Somehow I doubt it......

VisionStorm,

"Just because a special group of people claims that their god created the Universe that does not make the Universe evidence that their god exists."

You insist on saying "my God" as if I owned God. I really don't think you understood the point of my argument to begin with. I was making a philosophical argument; not a theological argument. It is not a circular argument. The question is what is the relationship between the human mind and the universe? There must be some sort of correspondence between our thoughts and the universe itself, otherwise we would not be able to make any sense of it. What is the nature of that correspondence and where does it come from? And there are very logical arguments for the existence of God. Aristotle gives 5 of them, and Saint Thomas Aquinas also gives 5. But they are very complex arguments that require a lot of deep thinking to understand them.

God help the souls who post hateful, ignorant messages here, that they may come to experience love and peace towards all humankind. Amen.

@AME321

God didn't help people for thousands of years, why do you think he/she will start to do it now?

People die from war, hunger, disease and more. People prayed and prayed for thousands of years, yet the same thing happened over and over again.

Now, it only takes less than 150 years for science to change the world for the better. All the things we are enjoying now, experiencing now, they are considered as MIRACLES by old standards.

If we somehow find a cure for cancer 10 or 20 years from now, will you kneel down and pray for every person that go better and proclaim "IT"S A MIRACLE"? I doubt you can have enough time to finish one before repeating that again and again for years.

All of these rants about "god" are really rants about religion. Mans brain is not designed to comprehend what we call god. God gets credit or blame for everything, but it is greedy religeous zealots who create strife in this world. It is impossible to prove something doesn't exist so there they have you.

I am not an athiest, mostly because of my limited brainpower. My lack of comprehention of what god is seems to preclude me from praying to her. So be it.

Common Myths about Pope Benedict the XVI that are just not true:

1. Nazi.

Truth: He was forced into Hitler Youth at a young age, but skipped out of meetings. He was drafted into the army but he deserted it. His family was against the Nazis. He had a cousin with Down Syndrome exterminated at a concentration camp.

2. Said bad things about Islam.

Truth: At a university, he gave a lecture on the topic of whether God was a God of reason. As part of his arguments, he referred to examples in Christian history in which theologians had previously defended this argument. He quoted from one instance in which a Byzantine Emperor had corresponded with an Islamic theologian on that very topic. The Emperor was on the side of God being a God of reason. The Islamic theologian was on the side that God was not bound to reason. This was a purely academic lecture that was horribly taken out of context. I'm afraid that the literalist soundbyte culture has dumbed down the average reader's ability to use critical reading skills.

3. Hides pedophile priests.

Truth: As Cardinal Ratzinger, he had been most aggressive in the Vatican in trying to bring attention to the sex abuse scandal and irradicating the errors that led to the scandal. Unfortunately, the secretary to Pope John Paul II at the time was a duplicitious man who equally worked hard to suppress Cardinal Ratzinger. Good riddance to that secretary. In the meantime, the Church as a whole has come a long way in implementing necessary measures to protect children.

4. Is Rich.

Truth: No more so than the President of the United States can be considered rich for having everything he needs in the White House, although the President is really more rich than the Pope with the $400,000 salary that Presidents now get since President Clinton instituted it. The pope has a living stipend and is allowed just a few personal articles that are his to "own." Keep in mind that Pope Benedict XVI, as having always been a diocesan priest, never had to take religious vows (chastity, poverty, and obedience) like a monk or friar would. The difference between a vow and a promise is a matter of degree one renounces things. Diocesan priests only make promises of chastity and obedience to the Bishop. But even so, men who become pope are expected to bring very little to their name with them into the papacy. The Vatican is a city-state that isn't really governed by the Pope, it has its own governor. It is a place of continuity that allows it possible for art and historical artifacts to be preserved for the world to see, especially with the use of digital technology making the most delicate of items be accessible on online archives. The Vatican has a budget not much bigger than the Archdiocese of Chicago. Everything else is provided for, often by donation and meant to be used for other popes. Many artisans, clothiers, tailors, etc. consider it an honor to provide their skills at the service of the pope just as many such persons want to lend their talents to the U.S. President. At the end of the day, the Catholic Church remains among the most prominent of charitable organizations in the world, caring for those that the rest of the world often ignores.

Cuoung, you make the improper assumption that just because I'm religious and believe in God I must somehow deny science and man's progress in understanding the cosmos. Fortunately, I have scientist priests, such as Fr. Gregor Mendel and Fr. Georges Lemaitre to have as role models of faith and reason.

Whether one believes in God or not, I think it will be of great benefit to people, if nothing else but out of favor for the subject of the humanities, to read the following from Pope Benedixt XVI:

"Introduction to Christianity"

"The Spirit of the Liturgy"

"Deus Caritas Est"

"Jesus of Nazareth"

"Caritas in Veritate"

"Spe Salvi"

"Porta Fidei"

"Read"? You are too sanguine, pilgrim.

Sorry Pope.... but your fifteen minutes of fame is up and now you'll be reduce to spending the rest of your times trying to open a jar of peanut butter.

Good luck with your retirement, Pope. Oh....and try not to let the door-knob smacks you in the ass on the way out.

leroy,

Root them out? For your own use?

leroy - Only if you promise to wear the hat.

Well, ok. I'll wear the hat, but I ain't wearin' no stinkin' dress!

Leroy, men are anatomically suited to wear a dress.

I assume it's easier for him to move around in diaper while wearing a dress.

ANd, isn't it ironic, that Jesus warned of making vows, and said nothing of vowing poverty, chastity, or obedience as a way to become more "holy."

He has no money, he is chaste and he is obedient to God. Yep he has them all.

Why do you have to pray for a pope, I thought he had a direct line to god. His slip is showing, must be the dress.

The Pope don't need no stinkin prayers.....He needs an intervention...!!!!!

I pray that this vile SOB burns in his imaginary hell and that there will never BE another Pope. Religion must DIE for the world to be free and for PEACE to exist. Unfortunately we have billions of "magical thinkers" out there who are too ignorant to see that magic, myths and imaginary friends are for lunatics, fools and children under the age of 3.

Cont......whose minds have not developed to the point where they are able to distinguish between FANTASY and REALITY.

GEMINI618, You said the world was flat based upon your scientific analysis and when someone proposed it was round you insulted them and said their minds were not developed and they couldn't distinguish between fantasy and reality. Now we find out it is round so don't be so quick to judge because, you could be wrong and they could be right. An opinion isn't a fact.

We have lots of hierarchy and walls. The people are the Church.

It would be great if religion DID die. We could start with the murdering Muslims and their homocide bombers. Muslims currently trade in slaves in various parts of western Africa. They capture and sell black slaves. You can easily look it up, the facts are there for everyone to see. Even with this going on we have many African Americans embracing Islam and changing their names. Just more proof that people are willing to follow a religion regardless of the evil within the religion. Catholics do not currently have slaves nor do they muder on a wholesale level, but they are just as evil with their mistreatment of children. It is time to put a stop to this religious non-sense. Freedom is great until one persons freedom destroys another persons life.

Gemini

To whom do you pray?

This pope is a criminal. He is an accessory to sexual assault of tens of thousands of children world-wide. He should go to prison.

bishopaccountability.org

Why does someone who claims to be the word of 'god' on earth need anyones prayers??? Aren't they already 'chosen' and have knowledge of what 'god' wants for us??? Nothing but CRAP - cruel rapists and pedophiles!!!

Exactly Hike, it should be catholics themselves, more than anyone else, who should be outraged and demanding accountability for this mess. They are giving money to the church which the church uses to shield pedophiles.

i believe the classified ad will read "new pope needed, must love children"

Oh, limey,

Go get a chin and your teeth fixed.

Agreed, Leroy.

All emebers of the catholic church who support the rcc are guilty as well. Roman catholics, break out of the brainwashing- leave the roman catholic church. Protect your children.

bishopaccountability.org "survivor's accounts"

Not if he's the new black Pope. A black Pope will add a little bit of soul to the Vatican because it desperately need some.

What's the harm.....they already had a Nazi.

Just like a good Catholic, he pulled out early.

Did you know? Pope is also head of secret order with operations in Europe? The catholic pope uses home of founder of Mercedes Benz and BMW as often meeting place or rendezvous point for this secret order. angela merkle, chancelor of Germany walks in out and about this secret order or secret society since childhood. And yes, the real founder of BMW and Mercedes Benz is the same light brown skin genius with a bavarian like appearance with nickname of "animal". Like I said, the pope has full access to resources of him the rich chinese since the 1970s. Taking advatange of access to steal is a serious flaw of character to evolve as a man of german descendant. boo har har.

What Pope thinks he is holier than God?

Wow, NC. You're showing your ignorance there. Popes have a divine mandate(so they have said) to speak for God, act as God, and if they think His decision was faulty they can overrule Him. Look it up. Go educate yourself.

Look up apostolic succession and rights.

That's awfully handy, isn't it, Angel? If you tell everyone you speak for God and your official words are infallible, then I guess those people better do what you say or they shall rot in hell....lol. If I said that to my family they would roll their eyes and laugh at me for being silly since I am human...as he is...and definitely not infallible, divine in the God sense, or speaking for any deities. It's handy to set yourself up as God, basically...lol.

Roman catholics- leave the rcc. You have been brainwashed and everyone around you is brainwashed. If you believe in God, read the bible and try to find the passages that say any other denomination "doesn't count" for sunday services, or that communion only "counts" in a roman catholic church, or that you can't eat meat on Friday during Lent, etc, etc, etc. They are LYING to you. They have made you afraid to leave their orginazation so that your children are in danger every time they are left alone with a priest.

You will not go to hell for eternity if you leave the rcc.

As long as you stay and support the rcc you are responsible for the ongoping rape of children.

bishopaccountability.org "survivor's accounts" Read it and decide if you want this to happen to your children.

You can do both, you know.

i believe he's invested all his retirement into a child porn site.

limey,

Have youinvested in a chin and good teeth?

hilarious.

He should be retiring in prison. He is a pig and a criminal.

bishopaccountability.org "survivor's accounts" This is what he supported. This is his legacy. These are HIS crimes.

He should be enjoying his retirement in prison. He is an accessory to child rape and abuse and sexual predators. He covered up many, many pedophile priests. There is no excuse. He will find a special place in hell when he passes.

well said.

Agreed

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You seriously need to up your meds. It is upon YOU to prove your imaginary friend exists... not for us to DISPROVE it. That's like me telling you to prove that Magical Pink Unicorns, Fairies, Gnomes and Boogeymen doesn't exist. See how ASININE your position is ? RELIGION is a MENTAL ILLNESS...it's called DELUSIONAL PSYCHOSIS.

We do not need to prove that God exists. We believe in Him. No need for proof.

Gemini618, I personally have never seen air or gravity. I do beleive they exist. My Choice and I am not taking any meds. You do however seem very angry using caps to insinuate you are yelling. Calm down and relax. You have the right to think what you like. Why do you try to insult others for their beliefs?

You have never "seen gravity"? You need to come up with something better than that... lift your Bible over your head and let go, amazingly, it doesn't float. Now you've seen gravity. You've never seen air? Dude, you can't be serious. There are many who don't believe in God who are far better humans than those that sit in a pew for one hour a week. Worry about being the best person you can be in this life - it counts. There is no afterlife. No proof. When you die, it's over. Why is that such a bad thing?

I respect the right of my friends to believe in God. I do not. However, do not make the age old mistake of assuming that just because we don't believe in God means we are not accountable. We do "good" and most of us live very moral lives; not because of the fear of punishment but because it's the right thing to do. If you need fear to live a moral life, then more power to you. I don't not live in fear, but I live a moral and ethical life for it's own sake.

All of his cronies, the cardinals, his partners in crime. Until they are ALL booted out, children worldwide remain in danger.

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I'm all those things and I WANT to be pope!

hilarious.

Dynamik,

Your opinion on this is irrelevant.

leroy

Then throw your red beanie into the ring.................

NC

All prayers are relevant.

NC

Why?

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And so is yours, NC. Fair is fair.

This older pope was anti-nazi. But sure, condemn him for what every child was forced to do in Nazi Germany.

"is known fact that he is infallible in religious and faith matters. . ."

a known fact? a fact? Do you even know what it means for something to be a fact, as opposed to a religious belief?

And just calling mere belief a 'faith claim' does not churn infallible facts out of thin air. If this were not the case, then even mutually-exclusive faith claims would both have to be regarded as equally infallible facts (for example, "My holy book says BLANK is the only true religion" vs. "Bull puckey! Mine says that BLANKETY-BLANK is the only true one").

And that is clearly absurd!

Carmina,

He is only considered infallible on matters of faith and morals when he proclaims it "ex cathedra" (from the chair (of St. Peter - the first Pope)). There has not been an ex cathedra proclamation since the late 1800s.

Beelzee, Truth or Facts are based upon what each person sees as true or facts within their own belief system. Fact is actual a bogus term because it is based upon agreed upon truths by a group. The world was flat was a fact until it was proven not to be. Just because many agree on something it doesn't make it so. We shouldn't discount discount someone's idea of what they beleive to be a fact, who is to say they are right or wrong. Galileo was labeled a nut for saying items of different mass fall at the same speed trying to explain gravity. When he did his experiment a known fact was changed. Let people have their facts.

This Pope said pedophilla (sp) is not that big of crime. That he wants more unwanted babies in this world born to people who know they can not afford them because of his stance on BC. Shame on him. Shame on the church for hiding the crimminals for so long.

Why does someone who claims to be the word of 'god' on earth need anyones prayers??? Aren't they already 'chosen' and have knowledge of what 'god' wants for us??? Nothing but CRAP - cruel rapists and pedophiles!!!

Carmina

So you must also admire Jerry Sandusky for his achievements and charitable work. You are so brainwashed. This man is a pig. He is not brilliant. He is a criminal.

If you are roman catholic you support the rape of children.

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Carmina,

He is only considered infallible on matters of faith and morals when he proclaims it "ex cathedra" (from the chair (of St. Peter - the first Pope)). There has not been an ex cathedra proclamation since the late 1800s.

You do seem to say a lot of shoulds for others, though. You have your beliefs and others are allowed to have theirs as well.

Carmina, this MUST be a joke comment. Tell me it is. Those who believe there is no such thing as a fantasy soul are the ones that are ignorant???? I SUSPECT NOT. What proof on planet earth the planet where man has evolved to REASON his beliefs and who use actual PROOF based on reality to make judgement as to what is and what is not you call ignorant?

Believe what you want but I suggest you RETHINK just who are the ignorant ones and who are not. PAAHLEESE, pray for him? Why? Because he looked the other way, assigned pedophile priests to other forums until the heat in the kitchen became to hot? He was recently sued by dozens of VICTIMS of priests disgusting abuse of young boys. I'll say he needs someone to pray for him. He abdicated in my view for more than simply age related illness. Most popes die in the papacy. I suggest there is "something is rotten in Denmark." Shakespeare's Hamlet or "The fault dear Brutus is NOT in the stars but in ourselves." Shakespeare's "Julius Caesar" you know Shakespeare, Carmina, don't you? If not LOOK HIM UP!

Natalie: when claiming that others are "ignorant" you must also be subject to the same scrutiny...and you have lost any argument that you thought you may have had by belittling Camina's beliefs by attacking her awareness and knowledge of Shakespeare; for all you know, Carmina may teach English Literature.

i am amazed by your lack of reason and common sense, belief allows the forgiveness for all the atrocities this degenerate was and is involved with? you are the type of person the whole world should be horrified by, whether you like it or not your attitude makes you an accomplice to all of his crimes against humanity.

Carmina.... ever consider having a lobotomy ? Oops...too late. Apparently it seems you already have.

gemini618: you must be aware, in some vestige of your mind, that you have lost any argument that you may have thought that you had by having to resort to insulting people.

LMAO..." Non believers and atheists should believe in the other life. Or they're so ignorant that they think there's no soul."

Oops... my bad... I believe you also uttered an INSULT. Hypocrite. What should we call you ? POT or KETTLE ?

If true, being termed "ignorant" is not an insult. It is an accurate identification.

This pope is a disgusting pig who aided and abetted pedophiles in their rape of children worldwide. He should be in prison to say the LEAST.

bishopaccountability.org "survivor's accounts" This is his legacy. Prosecute this man. Protect our children.

Hell is a place this world has become because of idiots like you who don;t believe in God.

If you want proof that God exists, then why don't you seek proof that the pope is responsible for the cover-ups.Typical how our country follows nothing but one-sided, vacuous news all the time.