French family with 4 children kidnapped by Islamists in Africa

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French President Francois Hollande speaks during a press conference after a meeting with Greece's Prime Minister Antonis Samaras at Maximos mansion in Athens on Tuesday. The president said the seven French nationals kidnapped in Cameron were been taken by a "terrorist group that we know and that is in Nigeria."

Gunmen from Nigeria kidnapped a French family that included four children on Tuesday in northern Cameroon near the border with Nigeria, French President Francois Hollande said.

They were apparently tourists, he said.

The risk of attacks on French nationals and interests in Africa has risen since France sent forces into Mali last month to help oust Islamist rebels occupying the country's north.

"They have been taken by a terrorist group that we know and that is in Nigeria," Hollande told reporters during a visit to Greece. Islamist militants in northern Nigeria now pose the biggest threat to stability in Africa's top oil-producing state.

Radio France International had earlier reported the kidnapping, saying that the seven people were nabbed by armed men on motorbikes and were being taken towards Nigeria.

Western governments have grown concerned that Nigeria's radical Islamists may link up with groups elsewhere in the region, particularly al-Qaida's North African wing, Al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb, given the conflict in nearby Mali.

The seven tourists were abducted at around 7 a.m. in a village about six miles from the Nigerian border near the Waza national park and Lake Chad in the extreme north of Cameroon where Westerners often go for holidays.

It was the first case of foreigners being seized in the mostly Muslim north of Cameroon, a former French colony.

"I see the hand of (Nigerian militants) Boko Haram in that part of Cameroon. France is in Mali, and it will continue until its mission is completed," Hollande said.

France intervened in Mali last month when Islamist rebels, after hijacking a rebellion by ethnic Tuareg MNLA separatists to seize control of the north in the confusion following a military coup, pushed south towards the capital, Bamako.

Eight French citizens are already being held in West Africa's Sahel region by al-Qaida-affiliated groups.

Cameroon Information Minister Issa Tchiroma Bakary said he could not immediately confirm the kidnapping report.

On Sunday, seven foreigners were snatched from the compound of Lebanese construction company Setraco in northern Nigeria's Bauchi state, and al-Qaida-linked Ansaru took responsibility.

Northern Nigeria is increasingly afflicted by attacks and kidnappings by Islamist militants. Ansaru, which rose to prominence only in recent months, has also claimed the abduction in December of a French national who is still missing.

An Ansaru statement said kidnappings were driven by "the transgression and atrocities done to the religion of Allah by the European countries in many places, such as Afghanistan and Mali."

Related: 

European Union approves €20 million in aid for Mali

Malian students head back to school after Islamist rebels expelled from Gao

Nigeria cautiously welcomes Boko Haram ceasefire

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I wonder how the French will respond to this?

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#1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:11 AM EST
KING PUTTDeleted

Mormons? A serious threat? Are you posting dumb stuff just to be dumb, or are you just dumb.

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#1.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:26 PM EST
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Losmuertos - I wonder how the French will respond to this?

They (Francais) are wondering too.

Their being Liberal Socialist, their reponse lately to everything (even if unrelated) by raising Taxes to solve everything (problems they caused), with the intended or unintended consequence of chasing French with any money out of France (making their Economic situation even worse)..

Like the US Liberal Democrats, their French Military was also downgraded (capabilities) with French Defense Budget Cuts, while some of the French Military Commandos (Special Warfare) and French Legion Estrangere are still here (to my south).

So far the French Military Rescue attempts do not have a very good average of success.

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#1.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:43 PM EST

Tousrism in an African country with a civil war going on? Where people hatch up and eat each other next door (Congo) to feed the army as it moves along? Not smart (tres stupid mon ami)... Anyways, you'd be wise to avoid places with @!$%# in the name, war or no war...

  • 3 votes
#1.4 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:21 PM EST

I guess they didn't have on their magic underwear and therefore were not protected. French Mormons? Do they know Donnie and Marie?

    #1.5 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:29 PM EST

    They're Mormons? Where on earth did you read that?

    • 1 vote
    #1.6 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:34 PM EST

    Hey, honey, where do you want to go on vacation this year? I know, let's take the kids to Cameroon! This looks like a nice lake on the brochure here, with plenty of hiking and swimming, and look, the kids can ride in the back of this swell 1974 Toyota pick-up with that nice man with the sheet over his head and the AK-47!!

    Cheap air-fare, too!

    How do you say "dumb-ass" in French?

    • 1 vote
    #1.7 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:36 PM EST

    Why would anyone take their spouse and four children to the buttcrack of the earth for holiday?

    • 5 votes
    #1.8 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:59 PM EST

    I don't understand why people keep travelling to dangerous parts of the world...

    • 2 votes
    #1.9 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:33 PM EST

    When you go to places like this, expect the worse. What's wrong with these people taking a vacation to this area with their children. Hello????

    • 1 vote
    #1.10 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:55 PM EST

    The French should respond the way Obama did....just go over there and bow.

    • 3 votes
    #1.11 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:26 PM EST

    It is time to outlaw Islam. Yes, I know that not all muslims are violent radicals. However, there are more than enough of them and they are only growing. Like removing a tumor, sometimes you have to cut out good tissue to get rid of the cancer.

    • 3 votes
    #1.12 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:58 PM EST

    But....but....but.....the "Terrorists" have been decimated.

    Shucks, another round of golf should do the trick. Any incoming calls will be re-directed.

    • 3 votes
    #1.13 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:20 PM EST

    Mike-3890110 How do you say "dumb-ass" in French?

    bete = stup!d.

    derriere = rear, buttocks.

    So bete + derriere = Demoncrat (Jackarse symbol of the Democrats).

    http://www.caption-of-the-day.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/jackass.jpg

    sparklystar - The French should respond the way Obama did....just go over there and bow.

    Wow and my factual post#1.3 gets collapsed:

    The French Socialist government on Friday hiked taxes to as much as 75% of their income.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/do-higher-taxes-really-chase-out-rich-or-just-gerard-depardieu-944228

    It remains to be seen how many people will jump ship to avoid the tax measures but former Victoria's Secret model Laetetia Casta, the restaurateur Alain Ducasse and the singer Johnny Hallyday have already left the country.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2185231/High-earners-planning-leave-France-75-tax-rate-income-1million-euros-goes-ahead.html

    Socialists have little or no understanding of finance, or business and this is why whenever they are in power, they literally fu*k everything up," Julien Pauvre, a retired shopkeeper and businessman from Lyons told Le Figaro.

    http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/business/3321-wealthy-french-to-leave-sinking-ship-france.html

    How about some of you uneducated come see for yourselves by asking the French Military Commandos (Special Warfare) and Legion Estrange Francais that are to my south here at Afghanistan, about their French Austerity Measures (effects on their French Military Forces).

    Do not let the Facts confuse your uneducated emotive non factual no firsthand experience opinions.

    Shift Lock - Not smart (tres stupid mon ami)...

    Vrai bete mes amis.

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    #1.14 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:03 PM EST

    NVArt

    Umm, you do realise that creating a law to ban Islam in the US would require a constitutional amendment right? Otherwise it would be unconstitutional as it would violate the 1st amendment Also I’m sure you realise that any amendment to the first which would result in a ban on Islam, could then be applied across the board to other faiths to. To which I don’t think Americas Christians would be too happy about when they realised that minor detail.

    • 1 vote
    #1.15 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:48 AM EST

    ""I see the hand of (Nigerian militants) Boko Haram in that part of Cameroon. France is in Mali, and it will continue until its mission is completed," Hollande said."

    Hollande and French politicians, British rulers, US politicians and many European politicians are lost!

    Invent the problem; save those inventing the problem; and then start attacking the problem from the tail end!

    They don't understand that the foutainheads of Islamic extremism on rampage all over the world are Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, their strategic allies and dance partners!

      #1.16 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:32 AM EST

      David, sorry that your comment got collapsed and mine didn't. Maybe you just make too much sense for some of the people on here to understand what you say. I also think that comments that hit home with the truth are not tolerated very well on these message boards. And your comments to point out the obvious - some people just can't handle the truth. ;)

        #1.17 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:34 PM EST
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        And you have to ask yourselves why, when you know you being targeted, would you possibly bring children to an area that has mostly Muslims, I mean come on, that's pretty stupid. Hope they free them soon.

        • 26 votes
        #2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:41 AM EST
        KING PUTTDeleted

        King Putt - all i can say is ..... yikes!

        • 20 votes
        #2.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:13 PM EST

        Radicals are bad, regardless of religion. The majority of followers of any faith are peaceful. You countered his narrow-minded comment by adding one of your own, just targeting a different religion. How original.

        • 14 votes
        #2.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:15 PM EST

        Putt, But we have NO president now.

        Only 100 radical Muslims on the planet? Um....wow.

        No guns for you!!!!!!

        • 17 votes
        #2.4 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:16 PM EST

        King Putt.....you are a prime example of why abortion should be legal.

        • 18 votes
        #2.5 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:45 PM EST

        uuuh, King Putt , what planet are you from? We already have a Muslim president!

        I guess I can't blame you for voting for him...or can I?

        • 8 votes
        #2.6 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:49 PM EST

        @KING PUTT

        "I would rather have a Muslim President than a Mormon President."

        Guess it's a good thing that we don't have either one of those.

        • 10 votes
        #2.7 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:52 PM EST

        Hey dave, since you believe everything you read on the internet apparently, I guess you also believe there are secret FEMA concentration camps they are going to ship us all to, they are secretly trying to steal our guns, martial law will be declared, rogue planet Nibiru will crash into Earth this year(though it was supposed to be last year, but maybe it will be next year, or 2015, or...), and I'm a French Model. Bonjour!

        • 10 votes
        #2.8 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:56 PM EST

        @KING PUTT - 9/11, benghazi, WTC (attacks under Clinton), Pentagon - do any of these ring a bell? How many Mormons were found to be involved in those attacks? In fact, how many terrorist attacks were committed by Mormons in the past century? Hmmmm

        Now, let's replace Mormon with Muslim. Hmmm....

        Now did you hear about the unprovoked attack on mecca that occurred last month. No - I wonder why. Could it be that civilized nations (and I count the nations where there is a strong christian influence either now or in the last 200 years) just don't think its acceptable to blow up innocent people as they shop in the markets, or shoot little girls in the head (girl in Pakistan), or don't allow girls to leave a burning building because they aren't wearing a veal?

        BTW - as I've said to other's of your ilk who have insinuated that President Obama is a Muslim - "So, President Obama is doing what - the long con? What with being a member of a Christian church for over 20 years?" You definitely failed logic and basic commonsense.

        • 7 votes
        #2.9 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:03 PM EST
        KING PUTTDeleted

        Anyone who takes Putt's comments seriously has (no) "...basic commonsense".

        • 7 votes
        #2.11 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:19 PM EST

        hey jh, i think you meant veil, I don't think they are wearing veal. LOL

        • 2 votes
        #2.12 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:22 PM EST

        no one that believes in magic IE:(religion) should be aloud to be president.

        • 2 votes
        #2.13 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:50 PM EST

        To comonsenz: Those were my thoughts, too. Those poor kids are now the victims of their parent's stupidity. I can't imagine why the parents couldn't have taken the same amount of vacation money and gone some place enjoyable... or, insist on being stupid and go off to Nigeria on their own and leave the children behind with a caregiver. Sometimes you just have to wonder what people were thinking before they did something like this.

          #2.14 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:06 PM EST

          Hey Big Willy, I wouldn't use the gun confiscation argument. Cuomo was discussing that as an option, to confiscate "assault weapons" in New York.

          http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/09/nyregion/cuomo-to-propose-more-expansive-ban-on-assault-weapons.html

          • 1 vote
          #2.15 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:54 PM EST

          KING PUTT - Why blame Muslims. It is only a few radicals that cause trouble. I'll bet there aren't more than 100 radical Muslims on the whole planet .

          Why because President Obama told you that, eventhough, his own US Department of State says something completely different. As the over 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers Worldwide are funding the Holy Warriors of Islam with Trillions USDs per year thru Mandatory Islamic Tithes. This makes the life of the Holy Warriors of Islam have a better life than scraping a stick in the dirt attempting to raise food, gives them status amoung the Islamic World.

          The Holy Warriors of Islam (US Department of State Lists):

          (aka Jihadists, Terrorists) consisting of the International Al Quada Franchise (AQ, AQY, AQS, AQI, AQAP, AQIM, AQ Somalia, etc.), Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG aka "the Libyan Rebels"), Army of Islam Pakistan (not the Pakistanis Military), Pakistanis Taliban, Army of Islam Gaza, Hezbollah (Party of Allah, Palestine, Lebanon, Gaza, Libya, South and Central Americas, etc.), Hamas Foreign Fighters (Palestine, Libya, Gaza, South and Central Americas, maybe Mexico, etc.), Islamic Chechen Foreign Fighters, Muslim Brotherhood (Alexandria Egypt), Kongra Gel/Kurdistan Worker's Party (KGK/PKK), Jemaah Islamiya (JI), Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG), Fatah al-Islam (FAI), Ansar al-Islam (AI), Ansar al-Sunna (AS), Abu Nidal Organization (ANO), Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade (AAMS), Al-Shabaab, Ansar al-Islam (AAI), Asbat al-Ansar, Gama'a al-Islamiyya (Islamic Group), Harakat ul-Jihad-i-Islami/Bangladesh (HUJI-B), Harakat ul-Mujahidin (HUM), Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban of Afghanistan, Islamic Jihad Union (IJU), Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM) (Army of Mohammed), Jemaah Islamiya organization (JI), Kata'ib Hezbollah (KH), Lashkar-e Tayyiba (LT) (Army of the Righteous), Lashkar i Jhangvi (LJ), Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group (GICM), Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK), Palestine Liberation Front (PLF), Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), PFLP-General Command (PFLP-GC), Harakat-ul Jihad Islami (HUJI), Jundallah, etc.

          Add the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF).

          2012, US Department of States Adds: Haqquini Network (Pakistan, Afghanistan), Ansar Al Shariah of the "Libyan Rebels" supported by President Obama (Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Mali).

          The "Libyan Rebels" supported by President Obama that went to Libya to Murder US Ally President Gaddaffi the Collaborator to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers, Al Quada Saudi Arabia (AQ), Al Quada Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Al Quada Syria (AQS), Al Quada Yemen (AQY), Hezbollah, Al Quada Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), etc. that became Ansar Al Shariah.

          The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group previously killing US Military at Iraq; became the Government of Libya as recognized as the "Legitimate" Goverment of Libya by President Obama.

          And President Obama during his Reelection Campaign Inflamed the Islamic World to Violence with his "Osama Bin Laden is Dead, GM is Alive"; the Islamic response to President Obama, "Obama, Obama, We Are All Osama", "Obama Declared War Against Islam". The "Libyan Rebels" supported by President Obama to Overthrow US Ally President Gaddaffi, then attack the US Consulate on the date 9/11 of their Holy Warrior of Islam Superstar, Obama Bin Laden's, Greatest Defeat of the Great Satan (US), the 9/11 2001 Attacks.

          Learn how to count KING PUTT

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udSEcQbM308

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pJGX1JzyFc

          Big Willy - "I would rather have a Muslim President than a Mormon President."

          Again, what President Obama told you to say that, just like:

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio

          You do not know squat about Muslims (Completely Subugated to Islam, Fundamentalist Islam). Fundamentalist Islam, only the Fundamentalist Islamic Interpretation of the Holy Koran (Quran), all other Interpretations are the Death Penalty Heresy. The Holy Koran (Quran) as Law. Fundamentalist Islam is All Politics, All Region, All Laws, All Culture, All History, All Ways of Life (and Death), All Beliefs, etc. that supersede the politics, religions, cultures, history ways of life, believes, etc. of all nations. The Holy Koran (Quran) 109 Suras of 114 Suras Calls to All Islamic Believers to War Against the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers; it is the Death Penalty to refuse to participate (Obligation to Islam, as Holy Warriors of Islam), it is the Death Penalty to Collaborate with the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers, as Collaborators "Die A Horrible Murdering to Dwell in that Firey Place". Mandatory Islamic Tithes (paid by all under the control of Islam Worldwide, including non Islamic Believers paying higher Mandatory Islamic Tithes), these are NOT just monetary, and include and are not limited to Political Endorsements, Taqiya (lies to Advance Islam, including now a days posting Taqiya on the Internet), Legalization of Islamic Terrorist Organizations, the current corrupted "The More you give the More Muslim You Are" (publicly announced how much you gave) instead of the previous 2%-3% tax of everything you have or will have. Attempting to leave Islam is subject to up to the Death Penalty as an Islamic Heretic.

          amynoelle - Radicals are bad, regardless of religion. The majority of followers of any faith are peaceful.

          Do you know what happened to the "Peaceful" Islamic Believers. While the Peaceful Islamic Believers were negotating the Fundamentalist Islamic Believers shot them in the face as "The Dead Do Not Complain (like Old Women)".

          Dave-464185 - uuuh, King Putt , what planet are you from? We already have a Muslim president!

          KING PUTT

          Who said anything about Obama. He is an atheist.

          Explain this Public Record, AFTER you do your own Research:

          http://www.wrko.com/sites/wrko.com/files/blog/images/ObamaIndonesia.jpg

          Big Willy - they are secretly trying to steal our guns

          Not a secret:

          President Obama's attempt to use the United Nations to Force US Gun Control (take away 2nd Amendment Rights):

          Democrats Oppose Obama-U.N. Gun Control Treaty

          http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/07/26/democrats-oppose-obama-un-gun-control-treaty

          Big Willy - I guess you also believe there are secret FEMA concentration camps they are going to ship us all to, martial law will be declared

          Don't have to ship you anywhere nor declare martial law; just take away your Constitutional Rights and Due Process of US Law with President Obama's January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts (plural US Laws, NOT President Bush Patriot Acts, singular US Law). Expanded Presidential Powers. US Military Tribunals renamed to US Military Commissions (Appointed Legal Defense with no access to "Classified" by Government Witnesses, Classified Evidence). Monitoring and Censorship of All US Communications. Without Warrant Cooperation of All US Communications Providers. US Military Use of Deadly Force Against US Citizens. Inclusion of previously declared Unconstitutional US Laws, US Senate S.1959, and US House of Representatives H.R.1955 aka the George Orwell 1984 Thought Crimes Laws. Preemptive Detentions of US Citizens. Lots of etc..

          President Obama during a Staged News Media Event January 22, 2009 signing into US Laws his January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts, 04:38 minutes of 11:55 minutes:

          Naomi Wolf: 'Obama can lock any US citizen up without trial'

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLSeD19m3UE

          2012 President Obama signed into US Law his NDAA, Indefinite Detentions of US Citizens:

          Obama Signs NDAA, ACLU Disgusted

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IeuE16LLDY

          Big Willy - and I'm a French Model. Bonjour!

          Yes, you are, after the other prisoner you attempted to slip dick to ripped your Big Willy off; so your new nickname was "Little Peter";

          Then like a good Liberal Demoncrap you gave up what was left of your "Little Peter" and your high capacity magazines (testicles):

          This Is My Rifle This Is My Gun

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kU0XCVey_U

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          1. (sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

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          3. (initial capital letter) a political movement that employs the principles and methods of fascism, especially the one established by Mussolini in Italy 1922–43.

          President Obama Supporters:

          "President Obama, this is your Army. We are ready to march. Let's take these son of b!tches out and give America back to an America where we belong," US Labor Union Leader Jimmy Hoffa Junior during President Obama's Reelection Campaign.

          President Obama addressed the crowd shortly after US Labor Union Leader Jimmy Hoffa Junior. US Labor Union Leader Jimmy Hoffa Junior not arrested for "Terroristic Threatening of US Citizens", "Conspiracy To Commit the Murder of US Citizens", "Homegrown Domestic Terrorism Against US Citizens", etc..

          http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/05/jimmy_hoffa_at_obama_event_on_gop_lets_take_these_son_of_bitches_out.html

          "Chancellor Hitler, we are your Army. We are ready to march. All Loyal German's Must take back Germany from the Jews". Chancellor Hitler's Brown Shirts, Sturmabteilung, Armed Paramilitary; and his Political Labor Union, National Socialist German Workers' Party, Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei aka NAZI.

          Chancellor Hitler Ordering the elimination of other Political Parties (and did by Armed Force of his armed private Army, 1933), US Democrats demanding the elimination of the Republican Party.

          • 6 votes
          #2.16 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:03 PM EST

          David, very concise and comprehensive. Since I believe the current liberal/socialist/communist/democrat in the white house is trying to destroy the United States as we know it I applaud your post.

          • 5 votes
          #2.17 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:56 PM EST

          At jh2945581

          Acts of Terrorism by Mormons. hmmmm. How did we come about Hawaii? Oh, that's right the Mormons decided it was their land not the Hawaiians.

            #2.18 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:58 PM EST

            3 Little Pigs - At jh2945581 Acts of Terrorism by Mormons. hmmmm. How did we come about Hawaii? Oh, that's right the Mormons decided it was their land not the Hawaiians.

            Proof you never lived at Hawai'i. At the very beginning the Merchants decided that they only wanted to deal with only one Chief, not the thousands of Chiefs at many Islands, all with different prices (for food, water, etc.). So they backed one Chief Kamehameha, Militarily, by getting ships cannons (the Hawai'ians had never seen a cannon before); while fighting many of the combined forces of many Chiefs, the cannons fired (loaded with grapeshot), thundering noise, flames, smoke like from volcanoes and the many of the Hawai'ian Warriors magically dropping dead (out of spear range) or horribly torn to shreds. Many of the Hawai'ian Warriors then jumped off the Pali (Cliffs). Chief Kamehameha becomes King Kamehameha, the Merchants only have to deal with the King that they put into power; the Merchants start their Land grabs.

            Being of British and European Heritages the many Nations at Hawai'i make Hawai'ian Language Illegal and Hawai'ian Culture Illegal (especially women bare breasted dancing the Hula, even sexually suggestive movements of Hula are Illegal). Everyone regardless of the heat, dresses like the English completely clothe. The few Mormons as part of their Religion secretly preserve the Hawai'ian Culture and Language at the Mormon Temple at the North Shore of Oahu (later became the Polynesian Cultural Center).

            Go visit the Bishop Museum at Oahu, Hawai'i.

            Les A. - David, very concise and comprehensive.

            The information cost a lot of lives. Of the almost thousand of us that started as the US Military Training Teams to US Ally Iraq during the Iran Iraq Wars, rotated to Operation Cyclone, only a few dozen of us survived till now. It was my mistake learning Farsi, so I got switched from a comfortable desk job Nuclear Weapons, Missiles, Biological, Chemical, etc. to harsh US Military Asymmetric Warfare (Special Warfare), during the so called "Peacetime" US Military we were leading US Ally Iraqis Military Combat Units into Combat, then later vetting, training and leading the US Ally 1980s Pro US Afghan Muhajeen into Combat against the USSR 40th Army Occupation.

            We have been constantly keeping the US and US Allies from Losing Strategic Resources, Strategic Locations, and Strategic US Allies for Decades.

            Since March 2009 President Obama's Failed Foreign Policies resulted in the US and US Allies Losses of: Strategic Resources required for the current US And US Allies Standard of Living, and Future Alternative Energy; Losses of Strategic Locations Worldwide. Losses of US Allies Worldwide.

            The Long Time Strategic Goal of the Chinese and Russian Federation (previous USSR) to get the US And US Allies out of their Backyards (Resources). The Chinese and Russian Federation have been using the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran as their "Proxy Fighter". The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran has been using the Millions of Holy Warriors of Islam as their "Proxy Fighters" Worldwide. Previously, after the US got kicked out of the Islamic Shia Nation of Iraq, the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, the Chinese, and Russian Federation are building up their 21st Century Military Forces to protect all of their gains from the losses of the US and US Allies.

            The US and US Allies cannot keep up with the Chinese, Russian Federation nor even the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran Military Forces Build ups, regardless of how much is spent; as they still take people out and execute them for Contract Fraud, Contract Delays, Manufacturing Defects, etc.. While the US Politicians condone Contract Delays to have US Civilian jobs for a longer amount of time at their States; resulting in the US Military much later getting US Military Equipment that is already obsolete, plus the additional Cost Overruns.

            example: The Chinese and Russian Federation can manufacturer a hammer using modern Fully Automated Technology to produce a $25 hammer for $26; the US must spend $275 for US Labor as Labor Intensive to manufacturer a $25 hammer. And just like the uneducated do not realize, that almost a hundred million too expensive overpaid "Fair and Living Wage" US Civilians work directly or indirectly for the US Defense Industrial Complex as previously created by President FDR to get the US out of the Great Depression in 1939 by the Sales of "War Materials" before US Entry into WWII 1941; as President FDR knew that US Consumerism would never get the US out of the Great Depression, and that his failed "New Deal American People" did not work either (spending money the US did not have to create jobs ("make work", as one person digs a hole, another fills the hole in).

            This is why (numbers of US Civilians employed by the US Defense Industrial Complex) Secretary of Defense Penetta stated, 2012, "A 10% Defense Budget Cut will result in a Million (US) Civilians becoming Unemployed"; after President Obama as Commander In Chief Ordered a 11% US Defense Budget Cut. And later on Secretary of Defense Penetta stated he would be tendering his Letter of Resignation; stated during a news interview, will go work on his (Walnut) Farm with a different kind of Nut.

            Afterwards, President Obama as Commander In Chief has stated his intent to chop the US Military to 50%. Instead of Two Wars and Contingency Mission (like UN Missions) Simultaneously; only One War or Contingency Missions.

            Previously, in protest Secretary of Defense Gates stated during his last visit here, that he would be tendering his Letter of Resignation due to President Obama as Commander In Chief Ordered Reduction In Forces of 90,000 US Military Personnel to be thrown on Unemployment further straining Veteran's Affairs; and the Unemployment of 108,000 US DOD Civilians.

            All of this is nothing new. President Clinton as Commander In Chief belief that the Cold War Era US Defense, US Intelligence Agencies, US Military were no longer needed so he chopped the US Defense Budget (no money for the US Army Corps of Engineer Infrastructure Projects within the US, like the Levees at New Orleans before Katrina); Gutted the US Intelligence Agencies resulting in the US Blind and Deaf to the Events leading to the 9/11 2001 Attacks; It took President Bush (43) from 2001 to 2003 to rebuild the US Military to accomplish President Clinton's (42) US Policy Overthrow of President Hussein in accordance with President Clinton's US Law, H.R.4655 "Iraqis Liberation Act of 1998" Section 3 US Policy Overthrow President Hussein, Section 2 Findings (Justifications) Weapons of Mass Destruction as 2003 Operation Iraqis Freedom. Many of the previously RIFed on Order from President Clinton refused to be recalled to Active Duty, so changes were made to enable the States National Guard to be repeatedly deployed into Combat, many of the "Weekend Warriors" start saying "Iraq Illegal Unfunded" as not what they signed up for (without realizing that Iraq was by President Clinton's US Law; therefore not Illegal, and with US Congressional Appropriations since 1998, so not Unfunded).

            (Shrugs Shoulders). President Obama repeating the same Mistakes and Expecting Different Results.

            "Those who fail to learn from the mistakes of their predecessors are destined to repeat them. Those who do not know history's mistakes are doomed to repeat them." - George Santayana

            "Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” - Prime Minister England Sir Winston Churchill

            So just like the young today, since most of us will be going back on Retirement again, when we were young we did not listen either to the "old people" (experienced and survivors), resulting many learning the hard way during the Real World Life or Death School of Hard Knocks; our losses of almost a thousand became our Lessons learned the hard way for us to survive.

            Before some dumbarse says something, FACT* during Operation Cyclone we did NOT create the later 1990s Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban that massacred our 1980s Pro US Afghan Muhajeen nor did we have anything to do with Osama Bin Laden and his much later Al Quada.

            Common Definitions from Dictionary.com:

            *"Fact, noun

            3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true."

            • 1 vote
            #2.19 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:04 PM EST

            "Gunmen from Nigeria kidnapped a French family that included four children on Tuesday in northern Cameroon near the border with Nigeria, French President Francois Hollande said."

            There are fierce competitions going on in stupidity!

            French, British, German and many US politicians start their dances the moment oil rich Sunni rulers, oil companies and their lobbyists start their singing!

            Iraqi wars are the best example.

            Libya is another example.

            In Syria they started the dances and stopped them for a while giving a break.

            On sanctions on Iranian oil and manipulating oil prices from $40 in 2009 to more than current $110, they are all one!

            Just like Saddam, Iran is about to get most dangerous nukes.

            At least Jewish extremist lobbyists and oil rich Sunni rulers, oil companies and their lobbyists are telling them.

            No one knows about Paki nukes or Iran can get them from Pakis.

            Can there be more stupid acts repeated over and over and make oil rich Sunni rulers richer and more dangerous?

              #2.20 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:47 AM EST

              3 little pigs reads too much michener.

                #2.21 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:32 PM EST
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                So what does the european UN do they send MALI 20 million euro's to the country held by extreme islamist's

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                Reply#3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:57 AM EST

                lady luck-7777672 - So what does the european UN do they send MALI 20 million euro's to the country held by extreme islamist's

                Do some Research, Educate Yourself.

                The Government of Mali is assisting the French Fight the Holy Warriors of Islam, that were previously supported by President Obama as the "Libyan Rebels".

                SOS Clinton:

                She did say that there is no doubt that Algerian terrorists have weapons they obtained from depots in Libya that were opened up and “liberated” after the dictator Moammar Gadhafi was toppled, with U.S. and NATO help, in 2011.

                Clinton takes responsibility in Benghazi attack

                http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/23/16660298-clinton-takes-responsibility-in-benghazi-attack-clashes-with-republicans?lite

                Before you post something uneducated, pull out a map and see how the previous "Libyan Rebels" went from Libya, to Algeria, then to Mali (Mali as stated by Presidential Candidate Romulan during the Presidential Debates, with President Obama not having a clue (deer in the headlights)).

                FYI: Fundamentalist Islam and the Fundamentalist Islamic Holy Warriors of Islam are NOT based on Nation of Origin.

                example: Fundamentalist Islamic Osama Bin Laden formed his Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada, to Overthrow the US Ally Saudi Arabian Government; retaliation for the President Clinton's 1998 US Military Operation Desert Fox that resulted in the Islamic World Condemning the US as the Great Satan so Osama Bin Laden planned the 9/11 2001 Attacks against the same targets of his 1993 First World Trade Center Bombings; Fight the Great Satan (US) and Great Satan (US) Allies Worldwide.

                • 1 vote
                #3.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:31 PM EST
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                Did Expedia have a sale?

                What were these idiot adults thinking?? Why tote the kids to a volatile area that's full of terrorists???

                I hope for their safe return.

                • 7 votes
                Reply#4 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:58 AM EST
                KING PUTTDeleted

                King, Israel is a safe country BUT the muslim countries around them are making it dangerous because they wish to kill jews!! Pretty clear who the radicals are!!

                • 6 votes
                #4.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:43 PM EST

                Catchick, until you know the full story, you should refrain from calling people names. Even after knowing the full story, you should refrain from name calling. You do not know whether these people were there working,(taken from construction compound) attending a funeral/marriage or how long these people were in that area. For all you know they had been living there for several years bacause one of the parents had to work there and rather than seperate their family for years chose to have them near themselves. It probably was a lot safer when they made the decision to be in the area. So shame on your comment.

                • 1 vote
                #4.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:59 PM EST
                KING PUTTDeleted

                King, Israel is a safe country BUT the muslim countries around them are making it dangerous

                Therefore, it is not safe...

                  #4.5 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:26 PM EST

                  Jim in PA

                  You are full of sh*t. If you look at how many people are ethnically killed in Israel and Palestine, the vast majority are Arabs. The Israelis bulldoze their houses, terrorize their citizenry and claim that it is justified because God gave them the land. Anyone ever seen a deed signed by God?

                    #4.6 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:33 PM EST

                    tbmike,

                    Go do the Historical Research about the current "Palestinians".

                    You can start with the Forced Removal (by armed force) of the original Palestinians as majority being Christians, Jews; replaced by Arabs (usually the undesirables, emptied from Arab Prisons*, as most Arabs did not want to abandon their families, relatives, culture, security, land and property at Jordan, Egypt, etc. that their Families have been at for Generations, Centuries.).

                    *This is why at most Islamic Nations the Palestinian Refugees are held in Camps by armed guards (facing inward), barbed wire (aka razor wire, prevent escape, not protection); to prevent the Palestinian Refugees from escaping and mixing into their Arab Nations Population.

                    One of the key figures of the current situation at the "Islamic World" being Fundamentalist Islamic Believer Amin Al Husseini, especially as Representative of the Entire Islamic World signing the Forever Alliance with Chancellor Hitler 1933.

                    Look at link below (note: Do your own research to verify or negate the below link, never take anything as truth nor fact unless you verify everything):

                    http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/amin_en.html

                    And tbmike, the Fundamentalist Islamic Arab League of Nations did not have to listen to Amin Al Husseini's demands to attack Israel repeatedly; resulting in most of the members of the Fundamentalist Islamic Arab League of Nations losing all that land, Palestine, part of Lebanon, part of Jordan, West Bank, Gaza Pennesula, part of Egypt, part of Jordan, etc.; they could have spent all their wealth improving their own Nations and improving their own Citizens Standard of Living instead of spending all their wealth on buying USSR Tanks, Aircraft, etc. to attack Israel.

                    Ask yourself why can't they be happy with all of this (and do not even say "Religion", see post#2.16 or "Original Inhabitants" of Palestine):

                    Fundamentalist Islamic Arab League of Nations:

                    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TbkIC-eqFNM/TDyUY8HYWCI/AAAAAAAAGWE/av7z0YpzUMY/s400/ArabLeagueMap.gif

                    Having attended College at Egypt (when they were a US Ally) to learn Arabic, and Islam (taught only in Arabic), I can tell you this, since birth they are taught by their parents to blame the Jews for everything, just like their parents taught them, including their version of, "If you are bad the Boggeyman (Jew) will come get you". At the very start of their Public Education it is normal to have the Mandatory School Curriculum previously established by Amin Al Husseini, as Chancellor Hitler's Mein Kampf taught as a Success Story sabotaged by the Jews; the blame the Jews for everything, "Protocols of the Wise Elders of Zion" (just like at the US, Henry Ford); Heroes of Islam and the Arab World (Heroes for the Arabs, Amin Al Husseini, Nassar, Chancellor Hitler, Mussolini, etc.). While at Egypt I was told either attend the Mandatory Curriculum Courses or be expelled; in order to get my Degrees I had to successfully pass the Mandatory Curriculum Courses. During that time till now I never used my name, david-475776, at any Islamic Nation after the first and last time that I got my pants yanked off in public by them to see if I was circumcised or not.

                    • 1 vote
                    #4.7 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:18 PM EST

                    TBMike, you listen to liberals too much, Israel keeps making peace and giving concessions and then some idiot muslims start lobbing mortars into Israel. EVERY time the peace is broken its from the Palestinian side, even other arab nations look down aon them and if they have camps set up for them, it is always guarded, because they dont trust them and want them mingling with their own population. Israel has repeatedly tried to make it work and everytime its ruined by the muslims.

                      #4.8 - Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:26 AM EST
                      Reply

                      And so "karma" didn't wait to exact its revenge on the French. More will be coming, I'm sure.

                        Reply#5 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:58 AM EST
                        KING PUTTDeleted

                        The only way to keep these people in line is like Muslim rulers do they round up their familys and get rid of them by put them in prison and telling the extremist that if they don't do what they are told their family will be killed

                          #5.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:29 PM EST

                          You do not always have to pick a team. You could, for instance, look into why these things happen in the first place. Then come to your own sensible conclusion.

                          • 1 vote
                          #5.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:30 PM EST

                          AirThief - You do not always have to pick a team.

                          ROTFLMAO. Most times if you ever lived at an Islamic Nation YOU DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE of your Not of the Real World Academic Idealism.

                          AirThief "team". This is not some sort of whoever is paid the most, is the "team", Sport; that after losing the athletesgo home and get drunk. Just like those that have never been on the Teams saying crap like "There is no "I" in Team"; our "I"s of Team being Initiative, Intelligence (Situational, Tactical, Strategic), Innovation (including "Thinking Outside the Box"), Individual (Strengths and Weaknesses recognized), etc..

                          AirThief - You could, for instance, look into why these things happen in the first place. Then come to your own sensible conclusion.

                          You did not, so why should anyone else.

                          • 1 vote
                          #5.4 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:33 PM EST
                          Reply

                          What does the European UN do sends 20 million euro's to the country MALI which is held by extreme islamist's.

                          • 1 vote
                          Reply#6 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:05 PM EST

                          It's called realpolitik and civilized companies have been "buying" peace for quite a while. Look up SDR. For what it's worth, I agree. I think we should enter another age of invasion and establishing of foreign colonies. After all - radicals can't kill or kidnap people if they are dead.

                            #6.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:06 PM EST

                            lady luck-7777672 -

                            What does the European UN do sends 20 million euro's to the country MALI which is held by extreme islamist's.

                            Do some Research, Educate Yourself. By the way Skill Not Luck.

                            The Government of Mali is assisting the French Fight the Holy Warriors of Islam, that were previously supported by President Obama as the "Libyan Rebels".

                            SOS Clinton:

                            She did say that there is no doubt that Algerian terrorists have weapons they obtained from depots in Libya that were opened up and “liberated” after the dictator Moammar Gadhafi was toppled, with U.S. and NATO help, in 2011.

                            Clinton takes responsibility in Benghazi attack

                            http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/23/16660298-clinton-takes-responsibility-in-benghazi-attack-clashes-with-republicans?lite

                            Before you post something uneducated, pull out a map and see how the previous "Libyan Rebels" went from Libya, to Algeria, then to Mali (Mali as stated by Presidential Candidate Romulan during the Presidential Debates, with President Obama not having a clue (deer in the headlights)).

                            FYI: Fundamentalist Islam and the Fundamentalist Islamic Holy Warriors of Islam are NOT based on Nation of Origin.

                            example: Fundamentalist Islamic Osama Bin Laden formed his Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada, to Overthrow the US Ally Saudi Arabian Government; retaliation for the President Clinton's 1998 US Military Operation Desert Fox that resulted in the Islamic World Condemning the US as the Great Satan so Osama Bin Laden planned the 9/11 2001 Attacks against the same targets of his 1993 First World Trade Center Bombings; Fight the Great Satan (US) and Great Satan (US) Allies Worldwide.

                            • 1 vote
                            #6.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:41 PM EST
                            Reply

                            If we simply and with some degree of efficiency rid the world of all Muslims we'd all be better off. Sure we may get a few "innocents", but too bad. And by the way King Putt you spelled your name incorrectly, the second "t" should be a "z".

                            • 3 votes
                            Reply#7 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:17 PM EST

                            I think we'd all be better doing away with religions of all sorts. Particularly whichever one it is that you chose to follow, since it gave you such good morals in thinking mass elimination is a "good" course of action based on a handful of people. Good thing we don't hold Christians to the same standards or we'd have no one left.

                              #7.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:50 PM EST

                              He may not be right but I went to a Muslim web site and it turns out 93,100,000 of 1.3 billion hate us so it's not a few people

                              • 2 votes
                              #7.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:37 PM EST

                              Jessica

                              Doesn't Cliff sound like a Crusader? You know, when the Christian churches determined that it was with approval from God that they invaded the Arab countries and converted them (or killled them) while stealing all their worth.

                                #7.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:38 PM EST

                                tbmike,

                                Again with your lack of Education posts, tbmike,

                                Go Research the Crusades, as the Defense of the Holy Lands (lands originally occupied by Christians, Jews, etc., B.C.) before the start of Islam 600 A.D.. Up until 1910s to 1920s the Majority of Arabs were Nomadic Tribes (Survey done by T.E. Lawrence).

                                Jessica-3926182 - I think we'd all be better doing away with religions of all sorts

                                Islam is NOT your limiting Western Term or Definition of "Religion". See post#2.16.

                                Jessica-3926182 - Particularly whichever one it is that you chose to follow, since it gave you such good morals in thinking mass elimination is a "good" course of action based on a handful of people.

                                Go research: 1. Mandatory Islamic Tithes per current Islamic Laws. 1. 2010 US Supreme Court Ruling pertaining to (No) Material Support to Terrorist Organizations. Now add 1 + 1, as anyone giving Mandatory Islamic Tithes that are used to support the Holy Warriors of Islam (see US Department of State Terrorist Organization Lists at post#2.16) , and not building new Mosques, helping the Poor of Islam, etc. ARE Terrorists, Collaborators to Terrorists, Implicated to Terrorists and Terrorism, etc. by US Laws as upheld by the US Supreme Court Ruling.

                                • 1 vote
                                #7.4 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:06 PM EST

                                TBMike, again you show your ignorance, the crusades were not a christian act. The Catholic church caused those and there is almost nothing biblicaly based about the catholic religion, it started from the old roman empire when the caesars were losing power they went from a militaristic/political society to a religion/political society. The catholic church didnt use Christ based teachings for their cult, they just made up a bunch of stuff and called it religion. That religion is no more a christ following religion then islam is.

                                  #7.5 - Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:30 AM EST
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                                  Would be nice if a Muslim country would condem these actions....maybe some PEACEFULL protest in the streets . I'm thinking thats not gonna happen .

                                  • 8 votes
                                  Reply#8 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:20 PM EST

                                  Good point cape, that is why we are suspicious of muslims and their true intentions!!

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #8.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:47 PM EST

                                  Fair enough, however let's hold all religions to that idea. I want a peace protest from Catholics for the their atrocities on little children.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #8.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:58 PM EST

                                  But that would be an attack on the catholic church and the people who took part in the protest would be kicked out of the church.

                                    #8.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:39 PM EST

                                    Jessica-3926182 Demonstrators hold placards during a march protesting against the Pope Benedict XVI's visit to London on Sept. 18, 2010. Pope Benedict XVI expressed his "deep sorrow" Saturday for the "immense suffering" of children abused by Catholic priests, in a homily on the third day of his state visit to Britain

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #8.4 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:42 PM EST

                                    cape, you know very well that will never happen and why. You will also never hear any Muslim organization speak out against these types of action, because that would be against their shared beliefs.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #8.5 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:45 PM EST

                                    Jessica-3926182 - Fair enough, however let's hold all religions to that idea. I want a peace protest from Catholics for the their atrocities on little children.

                                    AirThief - But that would be an attack on the catholic church and the people who took part in the protest would be kicked out of the church.

                                    Anticipated Adolescent Deflection of Blame Game, anticipated Adolescent Deflection from the Issue; since neither of you don't have anything to add to the Adult Discussion.

                                    cape-1809886 - Would be nice if a Muslim country would condem these actions....maybe some PEACEFULL protest in the streets

                                    Against current Islamic Laws to say, do, anything against Islam (including those actions of the Holy Warriors of Islam). You do, first you receive a "Night Letter" (posted on your door) warning. Then your "peers" gathered and organized by the local Imam visit you, verbal warning (here, they will chop off a body part instead of a verbal warning). Keep protesting, then you get a Death Penalty Fatawa issued against you, your family and all relatives as Islamic Heretics.

                                    The 1.8 Million Islamic Believers at the US do NOT determine what Islam is or is not for the over 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers Worldwide (mostly Fundamentalist Islamic Believers).

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #8.6 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:30 PM EST
                                    Reply

                                    Honey, where do you want to go on vacation?

                                    London, Australia, Las Vegas, The Caribbean or NIGERIA?

                                    Oh what?

                                    Ok....Nigeria it is!

                                    • 6 votes
                                    Reply#9 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:21 PM EST

                                    Oh Yes honey!! I hope we see the Head of the Muslims King Putt. I hear he is really smart. There is only 100 maybe, bad muslims in the whole world, he says. Lets see if his children would like to play with ours. Be careful of those rich mormons who feed and clothe anyone who is in need, even if they aren`t mormons. We wouldn`t want more than 100 of those goody two shoes around, would we?

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #9.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:58 PM EST

                                    Do you know how many homicides there are in Las Vegas every year?

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #9.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:02 PM EST

                                    Plenty, but are there roving squads of fanatics roaming the Strip destroying the statues in the Bellagio, flogging men if their beards aren't long enough and cutting off women's labia with dull knives???

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #9.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:17 PM EST

                                    There must have been a special on pirate cruises....Heck...might be better than a Carnival Cruise? MIGHT?

                                      #9.4 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:06 PM EST
                                      Reply

                                      ...

                                      Is it any wonder that this happens given the way we treat followers of Islam ??

                                      ...

                                      • 2 votes
                                      Reply#10 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:21 PM EST

                                      Is it any wonder that the followers of Islam are treated this way given that they do this type of criminal behavior far and above any other religion? Give me a break!!!!

                                      • 12 votes
                                      #10.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:49 PM EST

                                      Actually Clipperdog, the Muslims have several centuries to go before they can claim the kind of criminal behavior Christians achieved.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #10.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:03 PM EST

                                      Wrong Musician! Unless of course you are including the first few centuries after Christ, in which you would be including a very narrow definition of a church, the catholic church(they worship Mary). All of which would be ridiculous since the last 200+ years there's been no church that's erected an army and went gunning for people who do not worship as they do.

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #10.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:14 PM EST

                                      Dave- Wrong! unless of course you count all the times Christians did bad things.

                                      I changed a couple words without changing the meaning. Do you see the ridiculousness in your arguement now?

                                        #10.4 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:47 PM EST

                                        nothing new here-1200374 - Is it any wonder that this happens given the way we treat followers of Islam ??

                                        Typical Not of the Real World Academic Idealism, "It's Society's Fault".

                                        Read (if you know how) and Comprehend (if you have Cognitive Skills) post #2.16.

                                        Musician666 - Actually Clipperdog, the Muslims have several centuries to go before they can claim the kind of criminal behavior Christians achieved.

                                        AirThief - Dave- Wrong! unless of course you count all the times Christians did bad things. I changed a couple words without changing the meaning. Do you see the ridiculousness in your arguement now?

                                        Again Anticipated Adolescent Deflection of Blame Game, anticipated Adolescent Deflection from the Issue; since neither of you don't have anything to add to the Adult Discussion.

                                        Give us some numbers (Facts): Killed by Christians versus Killed by Muslims (Islamic Believers).

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #10.5 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:44 PM EST

                                        We dont treat them anywhere near as poorly as we should. They have declared to the world they are everyones enemies if you dont believe exactly how they do (Obama is starting to sound like this). Ifyou truely believe muslimsare being treated any less then they deserve, you are an idiot, and you should go live with the muslims and then lets see what tune you sing.

                                          #10.6 - Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:35 AM EST
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                                          I hope they free them soon - safely.

                                          • 2 votes
                                          Reply#11 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:44 PM EST

                                          What moron would take his family to an African Muslim county on vacation in the first place?

                                          • 5 votes
                                          Reply#12 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:47 PM EST

                                          People still visit the U.S. in spite of our Christian fundamentalists, & wacko gunslingers.

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #12.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:01 PM EST

                                          And in spite of our intolerant and sanctimonious ultra-liberals as well.

                                          • 3 votes
                                          #12.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:06 PM EST

                                          Musician666 - People still visit the U.S. in spite of our Christian fundamentalists, & wacko gunslingers.

                                          Columbine Massacre - Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris raised by Registered Democrat Parents.

                                          Newtown - Adam Lanza raised by Registered Democrat Mother.

                                          Oklahoma City Bombing - Timothy McVeigh Registered Democrat.

                                          Chicago - Hadiya Pendleton, shot while on the Streets, mistaken for rival gang member, Mother Registered Democrat, poor parenting skills allowed Hadiya Pendleton to hang out on the Streets.

                                          Virginia Tech Massacre - Seung Hui Cho Registered Democrat, vocal against Parents Christian beliefs.

                                          Aurora Theater Massacre - James Eagan Holmes Registered Democrat.

                                          Post Office Oklahoma - Pat Sherrill Registered Democrat and Union Member.

                                          Ford Hood Massacre - Nidal Malik Hasan Registered Democrat, President Obama supporter, participant in the GWU Homeland Security Policy Institute’s Presidential Transition Task Force advisors to President Obama.

                                          Mabel-3083067 - And in spite of our intolerant and sanctimonious ultra-liberals (fascist socialist communist progressive liberals) as well.

                                          "President Obama, this is your Army. We are ready to march. Let's take these son of b!tches out and give America back to an America where we belong," US Labor Union Leader Jimmy Hoffa Junior during President Obama's Reelection Campaign.

                                          President Obama addressed the crowd shortly after US Labor Union Leader Jimmy Hoffa Junior. US Labor Union Leader Jimmy Hoffa Junior not arrested for "Terroristic Threatening of US Citizens", "Conspiracy To Commit the Murder of US Citizens", "Homegrown Domestic Terrorism Against US Citizens", etc..

                                          http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/05/jimmy_hoffa_at_obama_event_on_gop_lets_take_these_son_of_bitches_out.html

                                          "Chancellor Hitler, we are your Army. We are ready to march. All Loyal German's Must take back Germany from the Jews". Chancellor Hitler's Brown Shirts, Sturmabteilung, Armed Paramilitary; and his Political Labor Union, National Socialist German Workers' Party, Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei aka NAZI.

                                          Chancellor Hitler Ordering the elimination of other Political Parties (and did by Armed Force of his armed private Army, 1933), US Democrats demanding the elimination of the Republican Party.

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #12.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:24 PM EST
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                                          It's tragic what's happened to this poor family, but you have to hold them responsible for knowingly travelling to a high-risk area. Like driving without a seat belt...you assume the risk and if you get killed in a wreck your next of kin can't blame the car manufacturer. No one deserves to be kidnapped, raped, tortured and/or killed by evil barbarians who follow that gutter religion known as Islam, but the adults in this family CHOSE to put themselves and their children at severe risk and that cannot be ignored.

                                          • 6 votes
                                          Reply#13 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:52 PM EST

                                          You must call yourself a Christian. It's strange how the atrocities committed by fundamentalists calling themselves "Christian" have nothing to do with practising Christians, but if they're Muslims, the entire religion is to blame.

                                          Your hypocrisy is showing.

                                          • 3 votes
                                          #13.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:57 PM EST
                                          Reply

                                          "the transgression and atrocities done to the religion of Allah by the European countries" and children? Nice try.

                                          • 1 vote
                                          Reply#14 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:54 PM EST

                                          Musician(666 mark of the beast), what country and people are perfect?? Today extreme islam is on the move to kill anyone including Jews and Americans and now the French. I guess we should not have stopped Hitler and those Japanese during WW2. They were not as bad as Christians of the past!! What is your point??

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #14.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:26 PM EST
                                          Reply

                                          The French have a nice fifth column waiting to strike---

                                          France, which is home to an estimated six million Muslims, has the largest Muslim population in the European Union. There are now, in fact, more practicing Muslims in France than there are practicing Roman Catholics.

                                          Although 64% of the French population (or 41.6 million of France's 65 million inhabitants) identify themselves as Roman Catholic, only 4.5% (or 1.9 million) of these actually are practicing Catholics, according to a separate survey on Catholicism in France published by Ifop in July 2009.

                                          By way of comparison, 75% (or 4.5 million), of the estimated six million mostly ethnic North African and sub-Saharan Muslims in France, identify themselves as "believers;" and 41% (or 2.5 million) say they are "practicing" Muslims, according to an in-depth research report on Islam in France published by Ifop in July 2011.

                                          Taken together, the research data provides empirical evidence that Islam is well on its way to overtaking Roman Catholicism as the dominant religion in France.

                                          This trend is also reflected in the fact that mosques are being built more often in France than are Roman Catholic churches; nearly 150 new mosques are currently under construction in France.

                                          http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3426/islam-overtaking-catholicism-france

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                                          Reply#15 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:03 PM EST

                                          Yikes...

                                          But you have to blame the French government for that...if you allow cockroaches into your house it's only a short time before they take over your kitchen. Now there isn't an exterminator in the world that can eliminate France's Muslim problem...the French are stuck with the vermin they knowingly invited into their home.

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                                          #15.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:12 PM EST
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                                          Why are there so many idiots making comments?

                                          The story clearly states that there were kidnapped in Cameroon, which borders Nigeria. It is beleived that the kidnappers are trying to get them back accross the border to Nigeria. Neither Nigeria or Cameroon are in the strictest sense "Muslim countries" Both have Muslin populations. In Nigeria about 50% of the population is Muslim 50% Christian. In Cameron Muslims are the minority representing less than 25% of the population.

                                          Cameroon is a very scenic country and has never before been known for Islamic militants.

                                          If you don't know you facts take the time to look them up. France is being targeted for taking a hard line against Islamic radicals. They are currently trying to kill as many as they can in a military operation in North Africa. The French have always taken a hard line against radical Islam. God help you if the French arrest you for being a muslim militant. They will lock up anyone they suspect of being a terrorist for a year before they even read them their "rights".

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                                          Reply#16 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:12 PM EST

                                          Why do you say "radical" Islam?

                                            #16.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:43 PM EST
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                                            Nigeria's radical Islamists

                                            When is the media going to stop overqualifying every term related to Muslims with the adjective "radical"? There are no "radical" Islamists just as there are no moderate Islamists - there are just Islamists. In the quote above this is like saying "The murderous murderer" - we can tell the person is murderous with just the term "murderer".

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                                            Reply#18 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:42 PM EST

                                            I went to a Muslim web site and it turns out 93,100,000 of 1.3 billion hate us so it's not a few people

                                              #18.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:44 PM EST
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                                              Hey Clipperdog- Thats my kind of responses...Harsh, cruel yet reality!!!

                                                Reply#20 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:59 PM EST

                                                See what happens to law abiding citizens who are unarmed.

                                                  Reply#21 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:15 PM EST

                                                  I'm sure they wanted their kids to have a real third-world, multi-cultural experience.

                                                    Reply#22 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:38 PM EST

                                                    How do you know if they were kidnapped or they just surrendered? What...? Too soon?

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                                                    Reply#23 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:41 PM EST

                                                    Honey, I have a grand plan....Let's vacation in Nigeria this year.

                                                    Why?

                                                    Well...I really don't want to be raped by a gang of Nigerian Pirates.

                                                    Then why go at all?

                                                    I hear they have ummm...good coffee or something. I really want to try it....oh and did I mention I do not want to be raped by a gang of well hung Nigerian Pirates?

                                                    Poor Froggy the Cuck

                                                      #23.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:41 PM EST
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                                                      I won't say they deserved it but they kind of did if they were going on vacation there. OMG fail.

                                                        Reply#24 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:44 PM EST

                                                        Anyone stupid enough to take their kids into these thug laden countries is begging for trouble. Seriously it does not take a genius to leave the kids home.

                                                          Reply#25 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:53 PM EST

                                                          Anyone stupid enough to take their kids into these thug laden countries is begging for trouble. Seriously it does not take a genius to leave the kids home.

                                                            Reply#26 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:53 PM EST

                                                            NEWS FLASH!! France has given the Muslims 12 goats and the family was set free.

                                                              Reply#27 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:53 PM EST

                                                              Ignorant, here is your chance to blame Muslims. If we blame every crime committed on the religion of the person committed it. Guess what religion will top the list?

                                                                #27.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:35 PM EST

                                                                Fred,

                                                                I don't know, Fred. Which one? Educate us..............

                                                                  #27.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:37 PM EST

                                                                  Perhaps they are Druids, Shakers, or Pagans. And not Muslims. After all, what is really the odds of these bad guys being Muslims, anyway?

                                                                    #27.3 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:40 AM EST
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