Slain model's father: Pistorius will 'suffer' if he's lying about her death

Accused Paralympic athlete Oscar Pistorius will "suffer" alone if he is lying, the father of his slain girlfriend said in an interview with a South African newspaper. NBC's Michelle Kosinski reports.

Accused Paralympic athlete Oscar Pistorius will “suffer” alone if he is lying, the father of his slain girlfriend said in an interview with a South African newspaper.

Barry and June Steenkamp, mother and father of deceased 29-year-old model and law school graduate Reeva Steenkamp, told the Afrikaans-language paper Beeld that they were grief-stricken by the loss of their daughter.

“It doesn’t matter how much money he has and how good his legal team is, he will have to live with his conscience if he allows his legal team to lie for him,” Barry Steenkamp told Beeld.

“But if he is telling the truth, then perhaps I can forgive him one day,” he told the paper. “If it didn’t happen the way he said it did, he must suffer, and he will suffer … only he knows.”

June Steenkamp said she was sent a flower bouquet and card by Pistorius’ relatives.

“Yes, but what does it mean? Nothing,” she told Beeld. She said the Pistorius family was “not to blame” for her daughter’s death.

Pistorius’ family said that they felt “relief” to have the accused athlete home in a statement on Saturday.

“This constitutes a moment of relief under these otherwise very grave circumstances,” Arnold Pistorius, Oscar’s uncle, said in a statement. “We are extremely thankful that Oscar is now home.”

“We are acutely aware of the fact that this is only the beginning of a long road to prove that, as we know, Oscar never intended to harm Reeva, let alone cause her death,” the uncle said. “We realize that the law must run its course, and would not have it any other way.”

The family announced on Saturday that it was canceling all social media sites for Carl and Aimee Pistorius, Oscar’s brother and sister. Janine Hills, a spokesperson for the family, said that Carl Pistorius’ Twitter account had been hacked.

“It is most unfortunate that during this sensitive time, someone would choose to hack into Oscar Pistorius older brother, Carl Pistorius’ Twitter handle,” Hill said in a statement. “Carl did not tweet this afternoon, out of respect to Oscar and Reeva.”

There was no hint that the romance between Steenkamp and Pistorius would come to such a tragic end, the model’s uncle told Rock Center with Brian Williams.

“Nobody ever saw it coming,” Mike Steenkamp said. “Never forewarned.”

Pistorius, 26, is charged with premeditated murder in the Valentine’s Day shooting death of Steenkamp. Pistorius has said that the shooting was an accident, and that he thought he was shooting at an intruder in his Pretoria home. He was freed on bail Friday.

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It may be that his conscience will be bothering him for awhile, then the OJ effect will settle in and he will think of himself as innocent even thought he certainly does not look innocent now.

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#1 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:07 AM EST

The detective in charge of the investigation resigned? Why?

Oink!

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#1.1 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:23 AM EST

Since Robert Blake was also freed... I guess you could call it the RB effect, also...

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#1.2 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:28 AM EST

Pigotry, the lead investigator, Botha, resigned because he is going on trial in the spring for shooting at a bus about a year ago. You can't make this stuff up!

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#1.3 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:54 AM EST

There are many people who do not possess a conscious. They just don't have the capability to feel remorse or empathy, and this guy may be one of them.

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#1.4 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:09 AM EST

Celebrities can get away with having a temper or a history of abuse when after all it plays a major factor in American court rooms, the general public would never get away with it. Not sure what to think about the African justice system

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#1.6 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:27 AM EST

It seems like Steenkamp's father is more reasonable than a lot of posters here, all we have at this point are salacious tidbits released by a questionable detective that may have botched the investigation, and that play well in the court of public opinion. At this point I do not have an opinion of guilt or innocence, I am waiting for a lot more information. I find a witness who was able to hear an argument indoors and 1000 feet away suspect, the phone records have not been released yet but people are already saying what they are, have you hacked the phone companies data bases?

twodogsloving

There are many people who do not possess a conscious.

He absolutely is conscious, whether he has a conscience is a different story. Saying what you mean gives a statement a lot more credibility, people may scream grammar Nazi, but there is no shortage of criticism when NBC screws up, should we not hold ourselves to the same standard.

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#1.7 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:55 AM EST

IF he is lying??? Are you kidding me? Not a single word of his lame ass explanation makes a shred of sense. He has a flashing neon sign on his forehead: liar---liar---liar---liar. If you read the various stories about this murder it becomes quite obvious that after a violent argument Pistorius lost it, clubbed his girlfriend in the head with his cricket bat and that, fearing for her life, she then locked herself in the bathroom. The bastard then puts on his prosthetic legs, grabs his gun and fires a four shot pattern through the bathroom door. Premeditated? Probably not. Willful and conscious murder? Absolutely!! If this guy walks it'll be South Africa's version of another scum bucket athlete literally getting away with murder.

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#1.8 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:58 AM EST

Bluelake

If you read the various stories about this murder

At this point all we have is stories, most of the evidence has not been released so all we have at this point is assumptions that people are taking and reporting as fact.

Lynch mobs anyone, modern day Salem witch hunts.

Although it looks bad at this point I am reserving any judgement until we have all the evidence.

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#1.9 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:14 PM EST

We are getting media stories from thousands of miles away. We may never see or hear "all the evidence". I have, however, read transcripts and heard some of his statements. Ridiculous lies. To compare this to the Salem witch hunts is just specious. Of course your judgement or mine will mean nothing in this case.

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#1.10 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:26 PM EST

It is way too early to say that he is guilty or innocent. I have been called to be a juror a number of times and each time I get chosen because I believe that everyone is innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Having said that, in all the cases I have been in a juror, the defendants were found guilty.

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#1.11 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:32 PM EST

“It doesn’t matter how much money he has and how good his legal team is, he will have to live with his conscience if he allows his legal team to lie for him,” Barry Steenkamp told Beeld.

Tht's fine in theory, but unfortunately a sociopath doesn't have a conscience.

The evil they do doesn't bother them a bit.

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#1.12 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:50 PM EST


  • Yeah but what if he has NO conscience? Many of these athletes are all EGO and very little conscience. Think OJ, Lance, etc.
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#1.13 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:39 PM EST

haggisbingo-2225582

Why do you always post in Big Bold LETTERS?

    #1.14 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:47 PM EST

    Either way...his SPONSORS are abandoning him in DROVES. Regardless of his "Conscience"....his SPONSORS may just be the major portion of his INCOME. With the way he has gotten used to living....a LOSS of INCOME may be just as bad as PRISON.

    This is what happens when his girlfriend "Insulted" him about his PHYSICAL DEFICIENCIES, and "feeling hurt", he got his GUN (The wrong gun)....and he then PUMPS her with four bullets....through the bathroom door....and kills her outright.

    They were a MISMATCH....to begin with. He might have gotten a girlfriend, with some PHYSICAL SHORTCOMINGS of her own, and maybe....this TRAGEDY....might not have happened. You see...REEVA was YOUNG....FULL of AMBITIONS of her own. She had the looks, she was a MODEL, maybe with a good paying job....and BOTH of them whether they knew it or not.......were "In competition" with one another. Just like "two movie stars marrying one another".

    And so....the MISMATCH....might always END......TRAGICALLY.

      #1.15 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:53 PM EST

      Last I heard Lance Armstrong hasn't killed anyone.

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      #1.16 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:21 PM EST

      Antistupidity

      At this point all we have is stories, most of the evidence has not been released so all we have at this point is assumptions that people are taking and reporting as fact.

      Lynch mobs anyone, modern day Salem witch hunts.

      Although it looks bad at this point I am reserving any judgement until we have all the evidence.

      -------------------------------------

      I would generally agree, but in this case... he admitted he shot a person who he could expect to be in his home, and he shot her through a door

      everywhere in the world, that is murder... end of story, it's just a question of accidental/manslaughter or intentional.... either way, he is absolutely a criminal

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      #1.17 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:45 PM EST

      Accidental is not murder, have you ever woken up in a fog not sure of what is going on, I have. When I was in my late teens early twenties I was living at my mothers house, came home from work exhausted, laid down for a minute and woke up two hours later. I saw the time and it was 8:00 o clock, I went into the family room pissed off that nobody had woken me and I was late for work. After they told me it took a minute to register it was 8:00 pm not 8:00 am. That was the only time that has happened but it happened.

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      #1.18 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:55 PM EST

      Anyone believing this is an accident needs to be disarmed immediately, just as Oscar has been. You believe someone is capable of such disregard for human life by mistake; you could be the next Oscar. Turn in any weapons you own.

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      #1.22 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:46 PM EST

      Anyone buying the prosecutions case hook line and sinker needs to be stripped of any jury obligations immediately as they have proven they are more influenced by media reports and grand standing then evidence.

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      #1.23 - Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:36 AM EST

      Antistupidity

      Accidental is not murder

      ------------------------------------

      oh yeah it is.... you obviously don't know anything about criminal law

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      #1.24 - Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:02 AM EST
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      He has to now transform into an Oscar winning actor.

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      Reply#2 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:10 AM EST
      Comment author avatarJeannine Weavervia Facebook

      All I was thinking about was how remarkable the victim's family is, to be able to say words like that.

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      Reply#3 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:16 AM EST

      I am reminded of other famous cases in the past decades of American history, where the pubic was absolutely dang awful sure what the truth was, with killers being convicted for horrible crimes. Only later, to have it proved through DNA, that they got it all wrong.After the " murderer" had spent decades in prison. Reviews of how the criminal justice system got things so wrong, showing the need to be more objective, including the publicity surrounding the crimes, impacting the cases.

      Public opinion being so vicious,trying suspects long before the actual court cases. Demonstrating how critical it really is to wait until all the evidence is in. The facts revealed and jury comes back. When things are settled, before passing judgment. We are just too anxious to jump to conclusions as human beings. It's in our nature to do so, part of how we are designed to survive, literally, life.

      So, for this victim's family to willingly consider her killer might have accidentally caused her death, is such an incredible position to take and speaks to how they perceive his relationship to their loved one. Obviously they know him well, what he is capable of doing. In light of so many strangers, willing to condemn him, even to death if it were possible.

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      #3.1 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:37 AM EST

      "Public opinion being so vicious,trying suspects long before the actual court cases."

      I agree with you, Windancersong.

      Fact-checking, inductive and deductive reasoning, the gathering of actual evidence and the avoidance of logical fallacies are farthest from the minds of the rule of the mob.

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      #3.2 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:26 PM EST
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      He obviously has rage issues...it is so clear to me that they probably got into a verbal argument and she decided NOT to participate in it anymore, went into the bathroom and locked the door to let him cool down. Oscar didn't like that she wouldn't stay and argue with him, so in his rage he shot at that door-not thinking that the bullets would go through the door and hit her, let alone kill her.

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      Reply#4 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:25 AM EST

      The victim's family hasn't even made up their minds about what happened so it is amazing that people half a world away already know positively what happened.

      Knowing how people react and over-react when they are suddenly fearful, I have no more trouble believing his version of events than I have believing your version of events. In fact, the consequences of over-reacting irrationally when in fear is even protected by law in some states in this country.

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      #4.1 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:38 AM EST

      Sometimes people are so open-minded that their brains fall out...

      The facts tell the truth, even when the murderer doesn't. The man kept his gun under the very bed in which his girlfriend was, in his version, still sleeping. I, therefore, do indeed have trouble believing his pathetic excuses.

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      #4.2 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:51 AM EST

      'speeddemon, you have used one of my favorite expressions!

      Pistorius gains little by telling the truth and everything by lying. I may have missed reading about it but has he been tested for substances in his system? I mean really tested, not just pee-in-a-cup? Absolutely everything about this guy shouts rage.

      I can envision a scenario in which Reeva Steenkamp meant to do more than retreat to the bathroom. It's not so much of a stretch that she'd had enough and was leaving the relationship completely. That, of course, would be something Pistorius simply could not tolerate.

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      #4.3 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:25 AM EST

      The fact that he kept a gun under his bed in a crime ridden country shouldn't be a clue about anything except that he insists on his god given 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms - oh wait a minute - that's this country. In South Africa it must mean he is a dangerous rage driven man.

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      #4.4 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:45 AM EST

      Betty Gordon

      I am glad the justice system both here and in South Africa does not run on assumptions, you know the old story about when you assume, you make an ASS out of U and Me, wait for all the evidence. Thank goodness the founding fathers had the forethought to write the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and structure our justice system as they did.

      Well said Anita-2036926 South Africa has become a very dangerous place, most of the people there that have guns or a gun sleep with one in close reach for good reason. I lived there for 14 years I have a little insight into the country, as here nowhere is safe, but unlike here there are no longer safer areas.

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      #4.5 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:09 PM EST

      Anita-No matter what you may think God has absolutely nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment. Nothing! Zero!

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      #4.6 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:17 PM EST

      his story is implausible...the gun was on her side of the bed-how could he not see she wasn't in the bed. If you hear a noise...you wake up your partner first! The investigators will figure out how much ambient light there was at the time, the angle of the bullets in the door, his tox screens...etc, etc.

      Occam's Razor applies here.

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      #4.7 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:19 PM EST

      Bluelake - don't tell that to the NRA!

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      #4.8 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:38 PM EST

      Antistupidity...the odds of his story being true are longshot at best. Use your common sense!

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      #4.9 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:40 PM EST

      OH and I forgot to mention...Botha testified that Reeva was found wearing white shorts and a black vest-I don't think she would have been sleeping in that outfit!

      1. Oscar said he wasn't wearing his legs when he shot the door- forensics will figure out if that is true or not. Botha thinks the bullets were fired in a downward angle from higher up.

      2. Reeva was found in her street clothes, but Oscar thought she was in the bed? PUhleaassee

      3. And if Oscar WAS SO FEARFUL TO THE POINT OF OBSESSION...why did he leave his balcony doors wide open???

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      #4.10 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:54 PM EST

      Betty Gordon

      Lots of good questions but neither you not I are there or have conducted the forensic investigation, Botha is not exactly a forensic investigator, the angle he thinks the bullets were fired from is irrelevant, the angle the forensic investigation says the bullets were fired from is what counts. Botha does not exactly inspire confidence in me, the charges against him and that he kept them quiet make me question his integrity. I have not seen any reports of what she was wearing, please supply your source. There are a lot of questions yet to be answered that is why I am not making a judgement, but at this point it does not look good for Pestorius. One thing to take into account like I stated I did live there, their emergency services leave a lot to be desired and are nowhere like ours, this could be why he may have called family or friends first, he may have been able to get her to the hospital faster that way. We had to do the same thing for my mother, had we waited for an ambulance she would not have survived.

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      #4.11 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:33 PM EST

      ...Botha testified that Reeva was found wearing white shorts and a black vest-I don't think she would have been sleeping in that outfit!

      Bear in mind that other English-speaking countries use different expressions for certain items of clothing.

      A "vest" is like a tank top or camisole to Americans, and "shorts" could mean panties.

      vest: n undershirt. The item of clothing worn under your shirt. What Americans call a “vest,” Brits call a “waistcoat.”

      pants: 1 n underpants. What Americans call “pants,” Brits call “trousers.”

      http://septicscompanion.com/showcat.php?cat=clothing

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      #4.12 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:06 PM EST

      While it's so easy to jump to conclusions about this homicide, "common sense," doesn't make your statements any more valid than another person's opinion.

      "Common sense' is an arbitrary conclusion driver, and differs from person-to-person -- because of individual, learned biases from one's beliefs, different set of values, current emotional state, cultural, political or religious assumptions ...and it has often proven to be been wrong or full of logical fallacies when there's an insufficient amount of evidence about an event of which very few know about or have access to the site in question where it happened, and when it happened.

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      #4.13 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:41 PM EST
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      Any woman who dates him after he gets away with this murder (which he likely will) is a dumba$$. The first one he killed couldn't have known what he's capable of, but the next woman to involve herself with him deserves what she gets.

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      Reply#5 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:45 AM EST

      Hi Mach....But there are soo many dumba$$'$ out there.

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      #5.1 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:57 AM EST
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      In America, we have lawyers that through civil courts would assure the rest of his life was ruined as it should be.

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      Reply#6 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:20 AM EST

      If he did kill his girlfriend in a fit of anger......then he will suffer, but could put the blame on her....."she caused me to do it."

      If he did kill his girlfriend accidentally, then he will suffer. But, he will not be able to escape the blame.

      It's a lose/lose situation for him. I will wait to hear more facts, as they come to light in the trial. Whichever way it goes, it is a sad situation for all closely involved.

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      Reply#7 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:31 AM EST

      $113,000 bail? That's a joke. That's a real slap in the face to the girl's family. I think he's guilty as sin. his story just seems to fantastic. Well, if he does run, he can't hide. Unless it is to a country that will give him safe haven for being a murderer.

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      Reply#8 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:37 AM EST

      Just another monster child living in some corner of the world where they are starving for media attention.

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      Reply#9 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:38 AM EST

      I think most people would find it hard to believe their daughter would date a man who would be capable of murdering her. That is why they hang on to the accident story. If there was an argument, murder has to be a real possibility. It would be nice to see all the evidence, but with what is known, it makes it hard to believe they would let the guy out on bail. With the sudden charges coming against the lead detective and the low bail, there seems to be some heavy corporate influence on the court system. The whole thing smells.

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      Reply#10 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:39 AM EST

      pretorias has given an affidavit regarding the events of that night. if you accept his version he executed a home invader. he managed to put on his artificial limbs --get a gun from under his bed and all the while did not notice his girlfriend was not in the bed. his first thought was not of her safety since he did not know where she was. it would be reasonable to expect him to use caution before firing a gun. since he was not facing a life threatening invader he should not have fired his gun. while attempting to retrieve his gun from under the bed he would have noticed she was not in the bed. if the reports of fighting are true i doubt he was in a sound sleep -most people remain upset after emotional confrontations and don't sleep well. if i were a juror and had to vote on his version of events i would vote guilty. if it does not make sense it's probably not true.

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      Reply#11 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:45 AM EST

      he says he DIDN'T have his legs on...so that is one way to check the bullet angles...he said he put his legs on after he shot her and carried her downstairs...also he didn't call for help directly, he called someone else first.

        #11.1 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:23 PM EST
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        To shoot thru a door knowing someone is on the other side of it, is no regard for life. He could have left the building. He didn't even give the person on the other side of the door a chance to speak. That kind of recklessnes is almost as good as intent to kill.

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        Reply#12 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:12 AM EST

        That is what bothers me, why didn't he just leave? His version of events is just so improbable.

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        #12.1 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:20 AM EST

        In Florida and several other states he would have no obligation to retreat from the situation even if he could. Why are we applying standards to the citizen of another country that we don't even apply to ourselves?

        Here's my question - why didn't George Zimmerman stay in his car and the leave the area where Travon Maritn was when the police told him to?

        Want to know the difference in people's willingness to at least suspend judgement? Zimmerman is a working class guy who reminds us of ourselves. Pistorius is a rich, famous world class athlete who we can't even begin to identify with. Zimmerman's victim was a black kid in a hoodie. Pistorius' victim was a beautiful white model.

          #12.2 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:56 AM EST

          what is your point? I think both of the shooters are guilty of murder. What exactly are you saying...you have been defending Pistorius.

          Who thinks about the law in a pressure situation-human nature is human nature, no matter where you live. If Oscar was afraid and wanting to protect Reeva as he said (remember he was screaming to her) wouldn't he have found out where she was first???? And supposedly they were both fast asleep in bed. Human nature for a protector male is to wake up his woman. If she heard the "noise " first, she would also wake him up. His story is pure bull.

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          #12.3 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:24 PM EST

          I'm not defending Pistorius. He may be a cold blooded killer. I'm just a little tired of all the people who have already convicted and executed him. You'd think they were the fly on the wall who witnessed it and know the principals so well they can tell what happened without doubt. We don't actually live in a society where someone is innocent until proven guilty - just the opposite in fact despite the law that says otherwise. I believe South Africa also presumes innocence in which case Pistorius doesn't have to prove his story, the prosecution has to prove theirs.

          My point about George Zimmerman was in response to the posts that say Pistorius should have retreated if he felt threatened (and that he didn't proves he is lying) - something that more and more in this country we are not required legally to do.

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          #12.4 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:35 PM EST
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          This guy killed her in cold blood. NO FORGIVENESS should be offered by her father. This guy is an insecure punk who needs to rot in prison. She locked herself into a bathroom!! Why? Because she was locking herself away from this maniac. I know the guy is a "hero" in this South Africa but he is a lunatic and this girl deserves justice!

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          Reply#13 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:31 AM EST

          I thought American judges were whacked out. This guy should never see the light of day again! I hope her father kills him!

            Reply#14 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:33 AM EST

            And South Africa thinks they are a violence driven country!

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            #14.1 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:59 AM EST
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            Two people, a couple, live together. One gets up during the night to use the bathroom. What are the odds that person locks the bathroom door . . . think about it. I doubt most couples even bother to close the bathroom door when they get up to quickly use the bathroom during the night. Why would you lock it unless you were protecting yourself from harm? I think the father is generous in his comments. I am of two minds . . . one is that Pistorius needs to stand trial so the world will see a highly esteemed athlete can be found guilty. The second mind is saying it would be easier if Pistorius took himself out of this world to save the grieving family the trauma of a trial where it is possible, for whatever reason, the defense with tear down the victim. It happens so often and it is wrong on so many levels. RIP Reeva. Justice will happen. The world will demand it.

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            Reply#15 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:01 PM EST

            right on...couples have a rhythm and an awareness of each other, and yes nobody locks the bathroom door at night.

            Also, their relationship was new and in the honeymoon stage-this might have unfortunately been the first time Oscar let out his rage and it proved deadly. Very sad.

            I do think it is a highly probably he will off himself.

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            #15.1 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:32 PM EST

            I think his story is completely unbelievable, but the door-locking thing is a different matter. Some people are just shy about bathroom stuff. I've been living with my boyfriend for 4 years and I always lock the door. I don't even think about it. I just do it.

              #15.2 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:44 PM EST
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              Another athlete who walks around kicking and screaming for attention, no surprise he shoots his 'model' girlfriend. Nauseating cliche story that needs to disappear from the media altogether.

                Reply#16 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:35 PM EST

                This guy is less believable than O.J. and that makes him a world class liar.

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                Reply#17 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:38 PM EST

                Only if the first bullet killed Reeva does Oscar's defense hold up.

                What alerted his interest in the toilet stall in the first instance? Presumably, vocal sounds. Didn't he recognize her voice before he shot?

                Reeva would have made screaming sounds unless the first shot was to her head.

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                Reply#18 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:39 PM EST

                Sky......Didn't one or both neighbors who heard them arguing during the night hear a shot, a woman screaming and more shots? That's what I believe was some of the testimony. I'll have to check some of the reports.

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                #18.1 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:32 PM EST
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                This is the saddest story in a while. While many murders happen and all are sad, this one is very troubling... Reeva had the world in front of her and from all the reports of her being such a nice person... it must be true. I do not kno for sure as I wasn't there and I do not like to pass judgement as anything is possible in this world, but i think she had a very pure heart to fall in love with OP.

                As far as the bail goes, I agree that he was released on bail. It will be very hard for him to run as he will stand out where ever he goes. he would have to run to a country that would harbour him from Interpol because a man with no legs who walks on blades would stand out anywhere.

                The Judge or magistrate said it was a stretch to believe OP's version of events so i do believe justice will be done whatever the outcome. There is no jury in SA.His trial will be decided by The Magistrate and two assistants. So all the people who keep talking about a jury trial should stop and do some research.

                Is the gun debate ever going to end. It seems there is always at least one poster who takes a shot at The NRA and guns in every article. What about the poor 5 yr old who was shot in his own bedroom in NYC. I live in NY and we have some of THE TOUGHEST GUN LAWS in Country which Our Dems are trying to implement across The Country and we have gun violence here all the time. The fact is drugs are illegal. Criminals still get the drugs. Prostitution is illegal... people still do it. Guns are very hard to get in NY State and criminals still have them. What's my point. Having law abiding citizens follow the law will always happen. Criminals will always get what they want. Criminals will always get the guns when they want them just like the drugs and anything else that is illegal. To take the guns away from law abiding citizens is a sham. IMOWNHUMBLEOPINION.

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                Reply#19 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:10 PM EST

                Hi Big, It's just the automatic and assault weapons and the amt. of bullets in a clip that are in question. Otherwise guns are legal. We live in CT, I'm a Democrat and we own a gun. Nobody is trying to take our guns away or our rifles . The guns in Newtown were used by a pyscho whose mother owned lots of guns of all types and DIDN'T have them lock away. There are so many irresponsible gun owners. But you make some valid points.

                The psycho in Newtown was also obsessed with violent video games. I think we should rethink our violent culture and try to address some things related to our culture of violence along with the gun issue.

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                #19.1 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:41 PM EST
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                One more thing. Instead of punishing law abiding citizens and taking away the guns.... how about increasing the penalties for having illegal guns. Many criminals would think twice if they knew as soon as they were caught with an illegal weapon it would be a mandatory 10 to 15 years behind bars... and if they were caught with an illegal weapon during a crime, it would be a mandatory 20 to 25 years behind bars. INMYOWNHUMBLEOPINION I sincerely believe that would help to curb gun violence. I didn't mean to get off track but living in the poster child state for gun laws that are being pushed to be implemented across the country, I know the laws that prevent us from having guns do not work... since we follow the law... I can't protect myself while many gangbangers and other criminals are packing heat, good people still get shot.

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                Reply#20 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:20 PM EST

                If that is your picture in your avatar, is suits your comment...pure redneck who loves his guns.

                  #20.1 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:56 PM EST
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                  His story doesn't add up... If this truly was an accident? Then hes a bloody moron. That's basically his excuse. I was terrified and pee'd my pants, and fired blindly through a door because I heard a noise.

                  This is why someone like this, shouldnt be allowed a gun...

                    Reply#21 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:33 PM EST

                    Get a psychological profile for Pistorius to show that he has no psychiactric problem and the defense can ask for a polygraph to prove Pistorius' innocence of premeditated murder.

                    Can they trace back every single activity, with witness(es) or no witness(es) but with physical evidence, such as the Stamp time of sending email or the receipt from a restraurant which helped to show the time frame and location, from 02/12/2013 to the time she was found dead?

                    What kind of dinner that they had before the shooting at home? Had the dinner involved wine drinking? How many hours had they slept, from the time that they both really had gone to sleep to the time that they woke up; i.e., one used bathroom, and the other one picked up the fan?

                    If they had drunk wine, how would that affect or cloud Pistorius' judgement and his handicapped situation in the wake of the ongoing construction, crime, and threat there?

                    Then finding the motive will help the authority to find out the truth.

                    If a normal person loves a person, he/she will not suddenly pick up a gun to kill his/her love. If a normal person allows his/her friend to live in, he/she trusts this moved-in person, for the property and asset/secrecy are also there in his/her home. The authority cannot just say here is the evidence, and they need to ask themselves: is it an accident? If the case has no motive, it cannot be premeditated murder.

                    Any dispute(s) or disagreement(s) were witnessed before the death by anyone in terms of their relationship, not just in the public eyes, but in the eyes of their families and friends?

                    Has anyone heard any future plan(s) from his girl friend, when she was a lawschool graduate and a model?

                    Has she had any plan of getting marry or any discussion of her relationship with Pistorius?

                    Has she had any endorsement or how was her financial status at the time of her death?

                    The killing at least is not caused by the finance, for Pistorius has not bought life insurance for his girl friend. In USA, there have been at least two cases that husband killed wife aboard to claim their wife's life insurance.

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                    Reply#22 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:59 PM EST

                    All very interesting Billie, however Pistorius admits to shooting at what ever he imagined and what he could not see behind a closed door. The fact of the matter is he is solely responsible for for the consequences of his action and in this case his girl friends death. One may suggest or present mitigating or augmenting evidence or does the law permit one to shoot and ask questions later? By his own admission he is responsible for her death and should be held accountable.

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                    #22.1 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:48 PM EST
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                    OK people. Enough of this B S.

                    The blade runner’s dead girlfriend was frightened. Probably because of past instances of domestic violence.

                    The bathroom door was locked. Locked because she was trying to keep him out.

                    She probably took his prosthetic legs in an attempt to slow his a quick attack on her. She probably had her phone with her.

                    So not having his fake legs and with a steroid induced rage, he had to move quickly. Mainly to stop her from making a call. So he shot 4 times into the bathroom hoping that one of the bullets hit its mark.

                    Nothing else makes since. All he had to do is call his girlfriend. If she was in the bathroom, she would surely respond (unless she was frightened of him). And he would only had to shoot once for her to scream. At that moment he would have known that it was her in the bathroom.

                    This psychopath may snow the judge. But don’t let him snow you.

                      Reply#24 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:43 PM EST

                      When the shots penetrated the tiny toilet Reeva was locked in, the trajectory of the bullets (drawing shown in court) were in a downward position shot from the height of Oscar wearing his prosthetics. I agree that he went psycho on her.

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                      #24.1 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:50 PM EST
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                      Does that sound like Barry is threatening Oscar?

                        Reply#25 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:09 PM EST

                        I don't know whether Pistorius could walk without his prosthetics or not. Being a victim of Polio many years ago I am unable to walk without my leg brace. To put that brace on takes about 90 seconds. How long it takes to put on 2 prosthetics I don't know. Was Pistorius able to walk without his Prosthetics? Like me he most likely has to craw without them. Why would anyone not wearing their prosthetics attempt to look for an intruder with or without a gun. If I heard someone moving in my house I would first look to see if my bedmate was in bed.

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                        Reply#26 - Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:13 PM EST
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