This is only the beginning. You'll see.

Apparently they are doing so well at redistributing wealth into welfare in the US that they felt it was time to extend the same to the citizens of other countries.

Advisors????....That's what the democrats said about the Vietnam war.

And what are we doing for Americans on the East Coast ???????????????

Great to see our tax dollars now going to help al Qaeda and their spawn over there in Syria. The stooges in Washington must have upped their daily dosage of stupid pills.

In addition, the U.S. will be sending technical advisers to support opposition staff in Cairo and start working with the movement's military arm to provide non-lethal support to the Free Syrian Army, including things like military rations and medical supplies to tend the sick and the wounded.

"Technical advisers", eh? Sure smells a LOT like another VIetnam quagmire cooking up to me.

Where is the money coming from?

Maybe Warren Buffet donated it . . .

More likely out of taxpayer earnings . . .

Was it Einstein who said doing the same thing over and over expecting different results is a form of insanity . . .

I sure hope no part of the $60 million is cash. If so, there are going to be some very rich Syrian rebels come out of this deal.

I just wonder if the current administration ever thought that some of that money could be used here at home for Obama's "the sky is falling, the sky is falling" doomsday scenarios he goes around campaigning over the sequester.

What needs to be understood here is Obama's plan. We help the rebels and when they take over, they will be our friends and love us for helping them win their civil war.

Hey, it worked out great in Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan.

hs321

Add in Osama bin Laden when we helped the rebels in Afghanistan against the USSR

Boro, if you don't pay taxes they put a lien on your accounts. And sometimes put you in jail.

WOW..how stupid is this administartion? Are their brains made of genetic trash? Do they even know who the rebels are? Maybe they do...they dont seem to have had a problem with putting the muslim brotherhood in power in egypt and those guys are already hugging and taking pictures w/ Irans leader.

So Kerry was against Iraq war before he became for the syrian war?

How would he like it if France supported south during American Civil War? There is a reason France didn't.

There are so many comments here asking the questions why are we sending more money out of the country when we have such severe budget problems at home. I will not add to this list. I will only say that I have totally made a promise to myself that I will NEVER vote for an incumbent again. I am so sick of Washington - so sick of Democrats - so sick of Republicans. How can these people look at themselves in a mirror. How can they in good conscience accept their paychecks. They don't work. They don't do what they were elected to do. Case in point .... we are facing more budget "cliffs" this week but where were they last week --- on vacation. Years ago I had a great respect for the people who took on the job of running the country. NO MORE. Now I believe they are mostly made up of crooks - fumblers - bumblers - liars - dysfunctional - corrupt - selfish - etc - etc - etc. But I'm just sayin'.

Obam-ass does not think we should have it better than anyone else in the world so get used to it. He will continue to give "our" cash (not that we have any cash right now) to others so we become a bit poorer and others become a bit richer. It's all about leveling the worlds standards of living. Remember redistribution of wealth? What right do we have to have a better life than others right? Damn right we do if we want to work for it! Obam-ass does not get it. He's an idiot.

Just more proof that we have a president and congress who care more about foreign countries than they do about Americans.

Boromir - I would like nothing more than to be able to have a say how MY tax money is spent by the government and be able to opt out of those expenditures I believe are a waste of money. Unfortunately, I have no choice but to participate in this mess. MY money is taken directly from MY paycheck, kind of like robbery. I have no voice in how it is spent. I wouldn't even grumble about the amount if I had a option to have it allocated to things I believe were worthwhile. However, not paying, results in prison time, so your statement is ridiculous.

It is all Aid did you see the word Money anywhere? Heck we have a stock pile of food and medical stuff that needs to be used somehow. You People are Familiar with a sell by or use by date? Everything has a Shelf Life.

Conrad -

Zionists would not support the Syrian rebels, they would support Assad as he's managed to keep Syria from attacking Israel.

Your lack of rational thought is appalling!

Your (for those of us who pay taxes) tax dollars at work.

Pigotry: Please go first.....

Is it any surprise our country is on the verge of bankruptcy? Before we throw money to other countries we should be dealing with our economic mess.

Please somebody tell me why syria,is not part of the sequester????...but it in the words of fearless leaderS..(BOTH parties).....OUR American children,Are????...not to mention the military,firemen,police,disabled,.....everybody the prez's traveling road show is crying about....Just goes to show,nobody in Washington is serious about the debt......kerry still believes we can BUY friends.....with borrowed money.............U.S.Army Disabled Veteran....

only people that lost their mind were the sheeple who voted hussein back in again

Kerry has already distinguished himself as a statesman. Before a German audience, he had this to say:

"People have sometimes wondered about why our Supreme Court allows one group or another to march in a parade even though it's the most provocative thing in the world and they carry signs that are an insult to one group or another," he added.

"The reason is, that's freedom, freedom of speech. In America you have a right to be stupid - if you want to be." – Secretary of State John Kerry – Feb., 2013

So if you disagree with someone in a way they find insulting, you’re stupid? Thanks for painting Americans in the best light, John.

Conrad,and others, where do you think the bulk of the weapons Assad is using have come from already? Hint...it starts with an "R". As far as throwing the rules out the window, that's been goin' on since Europeans settled in the U.S. or did you take history in school? I, for one, am glad to see some humanitarian aid going to the people of Syria. Most of the whiners on here, have no idea what it's like to see your family killed in front of your eyes, your home is gone in an instant, you never feel safe because you never know who the enemy is, you can't find any food sometimes for days, so sit back in your easy chairs, in your comfy lil house, knowing your family is safe, or get up and go to the fridge and get another beer, and be glad that for at least now, we're not being bombed by OUR govt. At least the "rebels" have the guts to fight back(which is what the "Occupy" movement was about, but armchair a-holes wouldn't even support their own people with food or even simple vocal support, and those same people wonder why none of the bankers and other players never went to jail) Americans are too prone to sit back and bitch, and have, for the most part lost any humanitarian feelings for other peoples, and lost your guts. The least most of you could do is wish the opposition and innocent people, women, children, and old and disabled, not to mention the fighters who know everyday, they may never see their family again, but at least they've got the guts to FIGHT in Syria, the best of luck, but I'm bettin' ya won't even do that much. How loud would YOU scream if the situation were turned around? Nobody could most likely not even hear it from you s#ittin' your pants. As for the mere figure of 60 million, the members of Congress, who do nothing basically, could easily pay that off from their own offshore accounts and shady deals. Trust me on that. But since ya choose to just bitch, I guess ya think the killing of innocent people by their own govt is ok in your book, right?

let europe take care of thier own back yard.

60 million of US Taxpayer money for Syria?? BARF............

only people that lost their mind were the sheeple who voted hussein back in again

As a libertarian (the philosophy, not the Libertarian Party), let me just remark that the people who nominated Romney and then voted for him in the general election were also sheeple. If you think there was a major difference between the two con men I have a bridge to sell you.

I, for one, am glad to see some humanitarian aid going to the people of Syria.

Then feel free to start a charity and donate to it for that purpose. Stop using the force of the state to extort (tax) the rest of us to enforce your opinions. I have a feeling you'll value it less when it's not being subsidized with everyone else's money, but instead only being paid for by willing donations from private citizens.

Come to think of it, if we funded wars that way we'd probably only fight in self defense and not occupy nations for over a decade to set up puppet regimes via rigged elections funded by CIA drug money. Just sayin'...

Late in December Obama gave congress, federal workers, and Biden a raise through executive order. We send a million dollars per hour to Afghanistan over and above the cost of the troops. That is for reconstruction projects that haven't happened, and who knows what else. We are still pumping money into Iraq, just not for our military any longer as Obama replaced them with civilian contractors. The GAO report last year identified 300 billion in duplicate services and departments. Obama lacks any fiscal responsibility, and congress lacks oversight. There is simply no accountability when it is not their money and they don't care where it goes or what it costs. There is massive waste, fraud, and abuse in Washington, and Obama's solution is to raise taxes.

Chuck-295246

You may have a point. Why didn't the US government give aid to the "Occupy" rebels?

Maybe we should start our own army called "Free Us from Corrupt Kooks Ending Democracy"(@!$%#ed)? We could petition the government for support in our fight against them.

Screw Syria & screw any US official that wants to send foreign aid to Syria or its rebels, who will only want to screw us at their first opportunity. What the HELL is wrong with our government. It takes both parties (Democrat & Republican) to do something this stupid. We can't even come close to paying off our foreign debt let alone finance our current financial needs in this country.

Yes like many people in the US & around the world I would like to see Assad fall. However that is not the responsibility of the American tax payer. Nor is the overthrow of another country who has not physically attacked us anything that our government should ever be involved in. I think it may even be illegal, what ever that means anymore.

This insanity & complete financial irresponsibility must stop now. Stop all forign aid now !

You have got to be kidding me!!!!!!!

Kerry- aka the "cave in" LURCH can't hold his deck of cards- so we all have to pay.

OBAMA is propping up America's next enemy. I thought Obama said America was "ARROGANT" for meddling in the world affairs- YET here he is doing the SAME AS BUSH.

NO first post defending obama from FISTY REDHEAD & BEVERLY, but I see Pigotry wants war........ INTERSTING.

SO who will pay for this aid????? AHHHH the ARROGANCE OF THE AMERICANS STILL EXIST- nothing has changed..... except we have no money to give...

We can send millions to Syria, but had to release 30,000 illegal immigrants back onto American streets because of budget cuts? Are you kidding me?! Speaking of which, haven't heard much from Obama's media regarding this release. Interesting.........

With Kerry standing in the picture, I'm sure they mean his 60 million correct.?

More evidence of the libertarian obsession with war as being good; of spending us into oblivion as the way out of debt. This is what you voted for, voters! Four more years... yes, of hypocrisy and tyranny!

What?

Libertarians are anti-war. They are anti-spending. They want far more cuts and far less taxes than any conservative. They want far less foreign intervention and far less drug prohibition (the Drug War) than any liberal/progressive.

I think you need to look up libertarianism. Or did you accidentally write libertarian, but meant "liberal"?

How about spreading 60mil to small business's and middle class families. We are fighting to keep afloat.

Well-Well, looks like we have 60 new Millionaires in Syrian !!!

Honestly, I would rather us send enormous financial aid than one single American soldier.

I'd rather they both stop extorting (taxing) us to fund this crap, and stop ordering soldiers over there on the threat of prison or loss of benefits if they refuse. It's a false choice you are buying into.

I also would like it if troops took a stand and either A) didn't join the military until they quit being ordered to fight in aggressive wars as opposed to defending our populace, or B) refuse to go to wars of aggression and occupation that aren't in direct self defense of this nation even if that means sitting in jail cell or losing benefits. "B" is heroic. Heroes take personal risks to do what is right, whereas villains take personal risks to do what is wrong.

Jeff-

He has kept the wars going- so HE IS THE SAME. IN fact he is worse than BUSH.

Gitmo still open.

lobbying- all time high.

Countries still hate the USA.

Embassies being attacked still.

Free healthcare now MORE expensive than BEFORE. by 3 times at my company- and soon to go up with the USA covering illegal aliens who don't pay.

OBAMA IS a lightweight in a heavyweight fight. NOT saying i liked Bush but he IS MUCH WORSE.

How about we give up one stealth bomber. We can take the billion and a half dollars from that, give 60 mill to Syrian rebels and then put the rest into schools and infrastructure. What a crazy, mixed up world that would be.

7.62X39mm @1/3, Ike was pres. when the French were run off. He sent the first "advisors" to Nam but I thought he was a Republican, just like me. Where did you get the info Ike was a Dem? somebody was feeding you sh 1t.

thats a great point. Where is feisty redhead and the rest of the Obama shills on this topic???

All I'm hearing from them is crickets on this thread...typical.

we are arming the radical Muslims in Egypt, Libya, now Syria; we have lost our ever loving mind; we are sending a additional 150 Abrams tanks to Egypt, who do you think they are going to use them against, this administration is insane.

How about taking care of our poor suffering from starvation or eating dog food and living in the streets before you give out tax payers money to crazy people !!!

Let's see...the Obama administration actively supported the removal of a peaceful secular leader in Egypt and are now selling weapons to the Islamists that took over...he actively supported the removal of a secular leader while getting involved in the civil war in Libya knowing the opposition was largely made up of Islamists...now he waits until Islamists have gained firm control of the opposition in Syria, then gives them millions of dollars to actively support the removal of a secular leader AND appoints Chuck Hagel whose views border on the anti-Semitic and who has little inclination to assist in keeping Iran from gaining nuclear weapon capability.

Exactly what does the Obama administration think will happen with this $60 million given to the radical Islamists now dominating the opposition in Syria? Oh sure, they may buy some food and medical supplies then trade those goods for rockets. They may employ straw teachers who will take a salary then immediately return the cash to the Islamists that employ them who will then, again, buy more rockets. The Obama administration can say that this is non-lethal aid, but that's either just being naive or purposefully misleading.

If you're Jewish and voted for this clown, you need to take a serious look in the mirror. The last time Israel faced such a peril filled future was in the early '70s.

Until he opens up two wars with hundreds of thousands of boots on foreign soil then no he isn't quite the same.

Give him a few months.

That 60 million would go a long way, if used for: education, senior services or for disabled/troubled veterans; however the people who are in charge see no profit in it....

When will you all learn it doesn't matter who is in the White House or Congress; NONE of them work for the American people..... they work to protect the interests of the 1% and the corporations, sheesh. The few who may try to work for the people, are soon brought over to the "dark side" or run out of office.

Looks like we are continuing the arrogance and NOW arming our true enemies. The entire middle east will speak nice to you when you give them money, and stab you in the back when you need their support.

USA WILL NEVER LEARN- Obama is naive in this matter...... or - and I am putting this out there- He is arming muslims and helping his brotherhood against the "evil" Isralies???

After all his comments did stir up the Palestinians and now N. Korea has nukes, with Iran a close second.

LOOKS LIKE THINGS ARE GETTING WORSE NOT BETTER.

We have no business interfering with that battle in Syria. When ever we did in the past, we overthrow those in power and the radicals move in to take the spoils. Iran is the perfect example.

The aid will include $60 million to assist the Syrian Opposition Coalition communities in liberated areas of Syria expand the delivery of basic goods and services, including security, sanitation and educational services.

Oh so good, that little sequester problem is now resolved...

I dont want MY tax dollars going to Syria! What say you?

the american way? lets keep giving money we dont have to people who hate us! dumbazzes!

How about we give up one stealth bomber. We can take the billion and a half dollars from that, give 60 mill to Syrian rebels and then put the rest into schools and infrastructure. What a crazy, mixed up world that would be.

Why do you want to give then any money? It's not our business. And we wonder why the people we give weapons and aid end up attacking us 20 years later like clockwork over and over again...

Stop getting involved. The government isn't Santa Claus.

And if you want slash spending in the military why not pull out of some the 700+ foreign bases we have in almost every nation in the world? Or do we need to wait until we finish collapsing like Rome, the Ottomans, etc., etc., etc.?

We could also retire a few nukes. We have enough nukes to blow the entire world's population to hell over 20 times. I understand redundancy (twice), and redundant redundancy (4 times), but after that it's just corporate welfare to powerful Senators' favorite military contractors. It takes billions to maintain those useless missiles.

And the schools have had flat achievement for decades while we've increased their funding all the time. Look at a chart of educating spending vs achievement:

http://edlibertywatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Education-Spending-vs-Achievement.png

http://www.studentsfirst.org/blog/entry/under-spending-overspending-or-misspending

Throwing money at the education problem hasn't worked and won't work. We need market mechanisms to encourage better results, like paying teachers more who get better results, firing those who get bad results year after year (regardless of tenure), and allowing kids to not be re-segregated by race via school districting (allow them to go to any school their parents choose to send them).

As far as infrastructure...you should research how the government wastes the crap out of that money. Then research how much more efficiently that money is spent when a private contractor maintains the roads. Perhaps we should sell off those assets to not only get them off the government tab, but also have them better maintained, more efficiently built, and less corrupted by the process of cronyism in contracting with the state. If not, we should at least lease the roads to private maintenance like some States have begun to do. Hell, even leasing bridges for private advertising isn't a bad step in the right direction.

Everything the government does is inefficient because it's spending someone else's money and because it is a coercive monopoly. That means logically higher costs, lower quality goods and services, and low (or no) accountability. When the highway system was built some freeways were detoured way out of the proposed path so they would run nearer to powerful Senator's homes...which destroyed entire towns who used to be in the earlier proposed paths. Is that a smart way to handle tour transportation system? Nope.

What does liking Obama have to do with not liking something he is doing at the moment? People need to stop liking everthing someone they supported in an election is doing and tell them when they are doing something that you disagree with.

Why isn't the UN providing humanitarian aid? Why us all the time? I thought we are broke and need to sequester.

Remember this come election time in 2014. Vote 3rd party. Green Party, Libertarian Party, etc, what ever your political flavor is. Each party strongly opposes foreign intervention.

I'm no shill but I still like Obama overall.

You're not a shill...you're just naïve and nostalgic.

In time you'll realize these habitually lying con men and sociopaths who run for office are all the same, whether they are DemoCrips or RepubliBloods. All the people who prefer one or the other are either caught up in the nostalgia of the cult of the state (nationalism), or are innocently naïve. The former is a brainwashed individual that needs de-programmed like anyone who falls into a cult. The latter just takes a few years of beating their head against the brick wall of the state's political apparatus and a little self education to snap out of the delusion.

Bill Hicks, the famous deceased comedian, said it best:

“I'll show you politics in America. Here it is, right here. 'I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs.' 'I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking.' 'Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy holding out both puppets!'”

We financed the Taliban. Why should we stop now?

Because that was stupid too?

We once funded Osama Bin Laden too...and numerous other people who were our "allies" and then became our enemies. How many times should we keep doing this madness?

The commonly accepted colloquial definition of insanity is repeating the same behavior over and over again expecting a different result.

I'm not naive by a long shot. We have what we have. I'm not going to put my head in the sand and ignore the world because politicians are crooked. Nothing will change that. I just know that peace is better than war and we are finally getting out of these needless wars. I would rather give aid then commit to another trillion dollar waste.

And if you want slash spending in the military why not pull out of some the 700+ foreign bases we have in almost every nation in the world?

Now you're thinking!

What?

Libertarians are anti-war. They are anti-spending. They want far more cuts and far less taxes than any conservative. They want far less foreign intervention and far less drug prohibition (the Drug War) than any liberal/progressive.

Miss Gary Johnson yet??????

*sigh*

That questions was facetious. It's all stupid I agree. As I said $60 million is a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of a full-blown war.

Jeffor

Did you miss the story last week about us sending troops to Niger?

If a republican were suggesting/authorizing this, the left would be up-in-arms screaming and protesting. But since this is coming from Democrats, the left has no issue with it at all and believes it is for the best.

The brainwashed mentality in this country right now is so far being pathetic.

Why isn't the UN providing humanitarian aid? Why us all the time?

You mean you don't know? We ARE the UN basically, in terms of funding anyway. We're the World Bank too, and the International Monetary Fund, along with NATO and a few other international military forces that acts as if they are independent of us.

I like Kerry and I wish him well but this crazy foreign aid BS is a big mistake, when is it going to end ???

Funny considering Romney ran on a plan that included upping our aid to the Syrian rebels including giving them heavier weapons and all the Republicans were behind him. But since now it's Obama wanting to help them you turn around and piss and moan about it. Disgustingly two-faced.

If these politicians believe so whole-heartedly in funding Syrian rebels they should do it with their own money. Kerry alone has enough to do it. We, the average, everyday American, have had to cut back, do more with less and budget our money and so should Washington. You can't buy friends. You can buy people who'll be friendly until the money dries up and that's about it.

Chuck has a point. Our founding fathers at least had the guts to stand up and fight the tyranny their government imposed on them. But us, we vote and pretend that makes any real freaking difference. We bitch and groan, but they still get our tax dollars and go about doing the same old same.

So, after a long budget battle where we realize we would have to trim the budget and raise taxes, we're going to dump 60 million onto another country? Just sounds kind of off to me while we've been arguing back and forth about a small percentage of the budget.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I think their major trade partners to take the lead on this. We don't need to be the world's police/aid/first response force.

Chris, I believe the inverse can be said about the left. They were against Romney, but now it is great because Obama is doing it. Disgustingly two-faced, ain't it?

I'm not naive by a long shot. We have what we have. I'm not going to put my head in the sand and ignore the world because politicians are crooked

I'm not suggesting you put your head in the sand, I'm suggesting you quit liking people who you admit are crooks or con men (or worse, sociopaths). I mean ethics are sort of important.

And I didn't mean to insult you by calling you naïve...but you did say you still liked Obama overall, and then here admited politicians are crooks. Most people, in their mostly dormant brains (not you necessarily), realize politicians are con men and opportunists who lie and do the same types of behaviors that common criminals do...and yet they support them. I find that fundamentally, well, stupid. But I didn't say you were a nationalist scumbag, or call you stupid. I was being nice by calling you naïve. It was me giving you the benefit of the doubt.

I used to be a Democrat. Then I was a Republican. Then I woke up and realized they're the enemy. It's those two Parties that ruined this country, and it's precisely the system in which they achieve power that's the problem, not them individually. The system draws con men, opportunists, habitual liars, and sociopaths like a pile of crap draws flies. The answer isn't to replace the people in power, it's to disassemble that power and give it to no one.

If government is "a necessary evil", then we must work on making it unnecessary where possible. In 200+ years of advances in technology and science we have not done that in one way, even though it's easily possible. I mean, what do we need a Post Office for? We have email and FedEx/UPS! We are socializing a mail system where the business model is sending a letter from Florida to Alaska for pennies! Gee, how could that business model ever lose money (/sarcasm)? What's sad is the Post Office would have went extinct in the 19th century, but they outlawed their very able competition (Lysander Spooner - a man who drove DOWN the cost of postage and invented home delivery mail).

It's time to quit riding the coattails of long dead geniuses (the Founders) and start innovating our own ways to get rid of unnecessary evils. Our laziness and complacency has led us to this point.

Honestdebate, good one!

Ah, here the Demoncrats go spending money they don't have again. And our taxes will go up (again) to pay for it.

bigduke-6

thats a great point. Where is feisty redhead and the rest of the Obama shills on this topic???

All I'm hearing from them is crickets on this thread...typical.

Maybe because some of them don't have the luxury of sitting around on their lazy ass posting all day? But feel free to whine more if it makes you feel better.

Funny considering Romney ran on a plan that included upping our aid to the Syrian rebels including giving them heavier weapons and all the Republicans were behind him.

Except that one guy named Ron Paul, and all his constituents. You know, collectivist thinking leads to generalizations and stereotypes. And Obama and Romney...two sides of the same coin as far as I'm concerned.

ProIndividual-3906907

What are you talking about? Neither party ruined this country as you proclaim. The media and laziness ruined the country. People laying on their couch, with their mouths opened crying, "feed me government feed me" ruined this country. The media only showing you things that will insight communist thinking ruined this country. Communist thinking is you blaming both parties and not yourself for being part of the problem.

Your as lost as the sheep your following.

71.2 BILLION....thats about what WE, the U.S., gives to other countries in aid each year. Yeah, lets give money to rag heads that throw parties when some of their brothers kill Americans. That makes sense. After all, we don't need the money. Our economy is JUST FINE!!!! Freakin washington morons.

That questions was facetious. It's all stupid I agree. As I said $60 million is a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of a full-blown war.

I didn't notice your tone, I apologize. But that isn't the choice...it's not aid them with money or go to war...that's a false choice. It's mind our own business or give them money. That country is no threat to us, so war is never necessary here.

Republicans originated foreign aid !!!

honestdebate

Chris, I believe the inverse can be said about the left. They were against Romney, but now it is great because Obama is doing it. Disgustingly two-faced, ain't it?

Actually not at all. I remember the polls during the debates and most Americans were inclined to provide some form of assistance, however Obama flat out said he didn't want to send weapons because he had no idea who would actually end up with them. But both sides were in favor of helping the rebels. But now you guys act like Obama going to whip out a checkbook like he's paying for groceries. You do realize that the House has to appropriate the funds first in order for anyone to get money, right? That's how Foreign Aid works. If the money comes instead via USAID, it's still money appropriated by Congress.

LOL, People got what they voted for!!!! Tell me, how is it you libs will cry outrage when 20 people died at Sandy Hook. Were is all your outrage when Obama is KILLING WOMEN and CHILDREN every day in the middle east through drones and airstrikes? I guess that's ok since they are not American women and Children right? And now they want to send more money into a place we really do not need to be involved in. Sounds like Hilterism lives!

ASignOfTheTimes

I beg to differ. It is the politicians making promises from both sides that has caused us to move along the path in the fatal sequence.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy." Tytler

What are you talking about? Neither party ruined this country as you proclaim. The media and laziness ruined the country.

The press and the people didn't spend us into oblivion, put us in war after war that had nothing to do with self defense of our nation, start an unconstitutional Drug War on the people that made us the most incarcerated nation in all of history (both per capita and in total - even though our population is far smaller than several communist regimes we call "tyrannical"), take oaths and then violate them at every turn by creating program after program that violates the 20 enumerated powers in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution and the finite Amendments...need I go on...because I can.

George Washington warned us against factionalizing into Parties in his Farewell Address....he knew it would ruin this country, and he was right. We should have outlawed Parties from the start. This gang mentality, and the gangs you blame for NOTHING, are the problem.

The press and the people? Hardly. The press is in the government's pocket. How blind can you be not to notice that? The press ignores real issues and just allows fakes like Obama and Romney to get the nomination by focusing on fake divisive issues.

The government is always the root of the problem, not sycophants that clamor for the government's approval and favors.

The media is one of the largest lobbying groups in Washington....legal bribery is the problem, not the media for playing the game.

And for a "lazy" people we sure did increase productivity and total real (accounted for inflation) compensation 6-foold over 4 generations. We aren't mostly lazy, and those who are just got infected with the government disease of dependency. You shouldn't blame the dog for relying to heavily upon his master, you should blame his master for preying upon the dog's better nature (loyalty and a tendency to do what comes easiest).

Jeffor in case you are new to posting on this thread, the people here have already done your argument, and then we moved on.....I'm not even going to say it, but please move on to relevant issues....

two corrupt men don't make a good man

we are sick of hearing that its ok to be a scum bag because someone else once was...that is an evil position and I would have to say would be, at this point, a poor excuse/"criminal" excuse for actions done today....

your argument would be better heard if you could stop playing games and hold each person accountable for THEIR actions, not the actions of someone else....ok

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Not just NO but HELL NO! This is beyond stupid, its GD stupid. As an earlier poster correctly pointed out, the same people we support 2 decades ago to fight the then USSR, hate our guts passionately now. These people have no honor what-so-ever, they'll smile in your face, then stick a knife in your back, with a smile I might add. I supported Bush and and was naive enough to think we could move these countries into the 18th century. It aint ever going to happen. I hate Obama's domestic policy, but if he would decide to yank 100% of our troops and resources out of that region, I would support him 100% in that effort. But no, not only is he not getting our people out, he's expanding the scope of our involvement, AND IN ALL LIKELIHOOD IS BACKING THE WRONG SIDE, THE SIDE WE'RE FIGHTING AGAINST EVERYWHERE ELSE! Where the hell are these peoples heads at?

I have to admit, I don't know much about Vietnam, I think I am scared to know.....but its my duty to understand the past...can someone link me something that is relative to the "technical advisers" issue some of you spoke of? Please and Thank you

Your as lost as the sheep your following.

Who am I following exactly? All your leaders are the people I'm against...lol.

Free markets and voluntary government is hardly the problem...and is definitely not "communist" as you asserted. They are the opposite of communism.

The only sheep is you, because you're doing the following. You don't blame the 2 Parties who have run this country into the ground for centuries now, and thereby support at least one of them. You are part of the problem by giving this nonsense legitimacy...and you blame me. Classic.

I'm a free person. I have no leaders. "Leader of the free world" is an oxymoronic statement. Free people need no leaders. We do pretty well on our own by having a code of ethics and using logic and reason (critical thinking) to make our decisions and lead ourselves.

Keep supporting those Parties...you mine as well p*** in the wind for all the good it will do you, friend.

ASignOfTheTimes

I beg to differ. It is the politicians making promises from both sides that has caused us to move along the path in the fatal sequence.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy." Tytler

Great post, john-737278

f the syrians (and the rest of the world for that matter)!!! let's take care of us at home first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeffor

We financed the Taliban. Why should we stop now? You can't just blame this administration. This problem has been brewing for decades. It didn't just pop up yesterday.

so it is safe to say that no future candidate will be held accountable for their actions..... my question is this.....

why are we even having elections if they have no control? should we stop having elections until this issue is cleared up?

based on your post, our next President has no control of his/her mouth or the world they live in...correct?

Don't anyone try to blame the Republicans for this debacle. This one is solely on Obama and the Democrats. It does not yet have Senate approval or house approval, but the Obama administration thinks they can get enough demoncrats to support this ridiculous foreign/spending policy. I blame everyone who voted for this idiot for the terrible direction in which our country is headed. At least Michelle is proud for once in her life.

Don't anyone try to blame the Republicans for this debacle. This one is solely on Obama and the Democrats. It does not yet have Senate approval or house approval, but the Obama administration thinks they can get enough demoncrats to support this ridiculous foreign/spending policy

NEWSFLASH - and I can all but guarantee you that if Romney had been elected this past January, we'd have boots on the ground in this Syria morass by now, IN ADDITION to BILLIONS MORE in aid to those barbaric goons over there. And we WILL be sucked completely into this pathetic quagmire under Obama, it will just take a little longer, that's all.

Quit the partisan krap, will you? And open your eyes. Republican and Democrat politicians are THE SAME, the only difference between the two groups of hookers is that they may dress differently, and have different pimps, that's all.

Actually not at all. I remember the polls during the debates and most Americans were inclined to provide some form of assistance, however Obama flat out said he didn't want to send weapons because he had no idea who would actually end up with them. But both sides were in favor of helping the rebels. But now you guys act like Obama going to whip out a checkbook like he's paying for groceries. You do realize that the House has to appropriate the funds first in order for anyone to get money, right? That's how Foreign Aid works. If the money comes instead via USAID, it's still money appropriated by Congress.

We weren't facing sequestration. Granted I'm not scared of cutting a minscule amount of spending like Obama pretends he is. What I do understand though is that Obama is lying about what needs to be cut, his rhetoric is what is scaring people, and the lies coming from the left. If he could be a leader and say that they are going to cut Washington's paycheck, instead of lying and saying we NEED to cut first responders and free illegals.

So yes, people were somewhat alright with aid before Obama raised taxes a few months ago, and before they saw that without another tax raise Obama would allow sequestration, which he forced on us in the first place.

AID and ARMS for the Middle Eastern citizens to overthrow their corrupt and evil governments?

REALLY???

And THE US GOV'T wants to take the rights of US citizens away?????????????????????

NO WAY BABY........... "cold dead hands.".......... "cold dead hands.""

NEWSFLASH - and I can all but guarantee you that if Romney had been elected this past January, we'd have boots on the ground in this Syria morass by now, IN ADDITION to BILLIONS MORE in aid to those barbaric goons over there. And we WILL be sucked completely into this pathetic quagmire under Obama, it will just take a little longer, that's all.

That is total BS. Do you have a crystal ball? Are you a prophet? A soothsayer? Or one of the uninformed who voted for this moron again?

This is totally partisan. This whole blame it on the Republicans too is BS. This is entirely from the Obama administration. The Republicans are screaming, "Quit spendling!!!!!" The Democrats are screaming, "More Taxes!!! How can you even equate the two is beyond logic... which is probably why you voted for Obama again.

Boy! This picture is mind blowing. This Government of ours refuses to bring down the deficit and balance a budget and yet this Administration find's plenty of aid money to give to these Countries that hate us and want us dead. I say STOP given aid to these Arab Countries and put that $$$$$$$$$$$ towards our deficit, schools, roads, bridges, ect..............

That is total BS. Do you have a crystal ball? Are you a prophet? A soothsayer? Or one of the uninformed who voted for this moron again?

Your wishes, sweet cheeks.

No, not a soothsayer OR but a prophet. Just someone realizes that it doesn't take a crystal ball to know what Romney would have done, ( with the backing of war mongers like McStain and Graham Crackhead, of course) that's all.

And, for the record, I voted for NEITHER Obama NOR Romney this past November. Care to take a guess WHO I voted for, genius? Here's a hint: A man I mentioned a few posts above should help you out with the answer.

*eyes roll*

The $60 million is just a tip of the ice berg of federal overspending. If you love this you ought to love the passage of H.R. 347 even more. Look it up and see how your first amendment rights were just turned into a felony.

Also take a look at how the White House threatened Bob Woodward of all people about the truth of who is responsible for the sequester.

"Obama
personally approved of the plan for Lew and (Rob)Nabors to propose the
sequester to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid," Woodward said. "They
did so at 2:30 p.m. July 27, 2011, according to interviews with two senior
White House aides who were directly involved." Nabors was then the White
House's chief liaison to Congress and is now deputy chief of staff.

http://news.msn.com/politics/bob-woodward-says-white-house-told-him-he-would-regret-criticism

Next

Aside from the few and far between on here that still think Obama's not that bad, or this politican isn't as much to blame as this one, most of everyone is pretty much sick of our government taking what we don't have and giving it to those that don't deserve it regardless of who's in office. Sugar coat this all you want, the fact remains that WE ARE FUNDING AL QAEDA. WE CREATED AL QAEDA AND WE CONTINUE TO HELP THEM EVEN AFTER THEIR ATROCITIES. This is not one party's fault over another, this is anyone's fault to failed to research their political candidates, who didn't bother to get involved in what our government is doing and speak out against it. This is not a Democratic issue or a Republican issue.

The same corporate cronies fund both sides of the coin and it's all one big game. The average person is nothing but a pawn. So the real question is, what are you going to do about it?? When do we stop just complaining on message boards and start picking up our picket signs, march to the capital, and demand our rights back? Our money back? Our freedom back?

Don't you all remember these were the same people we signed our rights away for? The Patriot Act is a lie. It was sold to us as a disguise to take evil people like this out. Instead it has slowly stripped our freedoms away while our government continues to make back-door deals with terrorists. WAKE UP!! Get involved! Let's get offline and do something about this!!!

NO, NO, NO. Truly, I feel for those folks, but it's THEIR problem, not ours. We have enough problems of our own. No foreign aid to anyone until we take care of own!

roadlesstraveled: Advisors and Vietnam--That's how the US got involved in that quagmire to start out with. The CIA sent in their group called "advisors." Then we sent support for our advisors. Then we sent in troops to protect the support of the advisors. And it all went down hill from there. For more comprehensive reading, start on the history when the French were in charge of the region, post WWI. It's actually quite interesting, but unfortunately (in hindsight), very predictable. We don't want the same with Syria--at all!

The stooges in Washington

Based on your post in 1.5, and other posts today, I would have to say, Curly, Larry, Moe, or some other Libertarian.

*head shakes with disbelief*

Lets get something straight, this is not the Repub or the Dem act, this is a American problem - all Administrations did this, the point is when is it going to end, when we are bankrupt !!!

Chris from Yucaipa - I can't speak for anyone else, but I think the issue many have (as I certainly do) is that the POTUS has campaigned about the ill effects of sequester for weeks but now we must swallow a new commitment to send money elsewhere.

zapper45701

I found it interesting that after the war and the French took control, that Ho Chi Minh sent numerous letters to the US state dept asking the US to tell the French to leave and help them set up a democracy. And had we done that, the Vietnam war most likely would never have happened.

or some other Libertarian.

Damn straight, you are. And I make NO apologies for it, so don't you forget it.

Yep......

Pelosi: "We (Progressives) don't have a SPENDING problem, we have a PRIORITY problem."

Maybe the establishment of a "Peace Department" [to be submitted by D(Progressive)-Lee (CA)] will fix the World's problems.

What the hell?........I thought we were broke. I wouldn't be surprised if you raised taxes again that nobody would pay them as we are all disgusted about the way 'OUR' money is being spent...............................

We have children in this country being abused, going to bed hungry, wearing filthy clothes, living with unfit parents, yet we continue to send our money to a bunch of war-mongering, cave-dwelling phuk-wads who hate us.

Miss Gary Johnson yet??????

Yes.

WTF what is wrong with this picture we are going to shut down america because of a sequester and lots of americans are threaten to lose their jobs and the @!$%#en government is giving away 60 million dollars to @!$%#en syria who hates us... Stupid OBAMA and KERRY you people are @!$%#en stupid and ignorant..

seaskip

How about taking care of our poor suffering from starvation or eating dog food and living in the streets before you give out tax payers money to crazy people !!!

Hey Flip Flopper, Obama worshiper we have an spending problem can you see now, not a revenue problem. Obama/Kerry are giving millions to the rebels, but we have no money to control our border,ICE is putting criminals back to the street because there is no money?

4 more years!!!!!!

Pigotry

Be nice to us pigs, tomorrow is the National Pig Day (March 1).

Oink.

I will be sure to eat a BLT in your honor...

Hey Redvirginia, stop with the bull, this mess we are in is GWB, go thank him !!!

We as Americans, not party - got to stop this insanity of giving away the Country !!!

1.13: i haven't seen any google or bing results that discussed your idea that the bush admin. airdropped money..anywhere..where did you get that idea from?

STFU, seaskip. You liberals are friggin' pathetic with your constant blabbering about how everything is GWB's fault. Even if that were true, which it's not, your monkey has had four years to start fixing things and he's only made it worse.

Get a clue and stop gobbling MSNBC's knob...

Sad to see so many on here are willing to bury their heads in the sand instead of realizing the value something like this brings to the U.S. $60 million may seem like a lot of money, but it's virtually nothing compared to the government's budget as a whole. From a purely pragmatic perspective it goes a long way to buying goodwill towards those who will likely be in power when Assad's regime falls in a region that hasn't been very friendly towards us in the past.

Notsosure,
And have you seen what the Commie Media is doing to the once Adored by the Far Left Woodward ? The left eats their own as well as anyone who would dare speak out Against Anything King O does!! These people Are dangerous! They told him he would regret his decision to tell the truth on Obama...I'd say the smear campaign against Woodward is Typical of the Commie Media,not that Im a Fan of Woodward but it goes to show you don't go against this Administration...Watch out Mr. Woodward you may have a drone target on your back.

seaskip

Hey Redvirginia, stop with the bull, this mess we are in is GWB, go thank him !!!

WTF sea!!!!! this is Obamas war, like Egipt, Libia ARAB SPRING is BHO war.

Ster2

Notsosure,
And have you seen what the Commie Media is doing to the once Adored by the Far Left Woodward ?

He is not the only one, Lanny Davis a long time Clinton aid, big liberal, he dare to tell truths about Obama and this obscure administration, he was threating to take away his credentials as a reporter to the White House. ABC News.

@Things need to change...

Chris from Yucaipa - I can't speak for anyone else, but I think the issue many have (as I certainly do) is that the POTUS has campaigned about the ill effects of sequester for weeks but now we must swallow a new commitment to send money elsewhere.

I can understand that sentiment completely. What I have issues with is the simplified view some people have over how the foreign aid stuff works. Any money allocated by our government originates in the House Appropriations Committee each year. They hold the purse strings, not Obama. Obama can request all he wants, but until the House gives it to him, he doesn't have a penny. Now, if he's going to provide aid through the USAID program, it's coming out of the money allocated to USAID as part of their budget for the year. It's not new money they got just for Syria, it's part of their total funding UNLESS the House decides to pass an emergency spending bill and provide them with more money.

It just gets annoying to hear the constant Obama is doing this, Obama is doing that, Obama is spending all my money. The same old rhetoric spoken by people clueless on the reality. It's like half the people on the boards slept thru their high school American Government class. Have you noticed that none of our Republican leaders have popped up to say this is a bad idea? That's because Obama would have had to obtain their ok for this first before announcing it. Again, unless if comes from USAID, in which Obama can control where their money goes.

seaskip, It is good that you put the country before party. Kudos to you, wish more people would do that.

Hey Carry, as an Independent I agree with 90% of what the Dem's are doing, but if I see Wrong I will not defend that and this foreign aid is just nuts and I will not defend this kind of stupidity !!!

Can you do the same, or are you 100% for your Party ???

No Party is Perfect !!!

Dust,
Value to America in sending 50bil to Buying Goodwill? Surly yo Jest ....who exactly Goowill were we Buying with Fast and Furious ? And the Gunrunning in Benghazi ? We really managed Goodwill there Right? How about we just get the Hell out of there and take care of our Problem's Here instead ! We are Broke There is no Budget and has not been since O took Office,We Have Ocare that is already failing before it really gets going, because they Couldn't be bothered to read it or listen to those warnings from those that Had actually took the time to read it They of course were discounted and torn apart in the Media.... I suspect Thats why the said nothing,They knew better than to say anything against it...Look at What the Commie Media is doing to one of their own for revealing the Truth about O and the Sequester..We Are in Big trouble !

This is a slap to the face of all US Citizens!!! In the midst of stern warnings (lies) from Emperor Obama regarding the danger of budget cuts from the sequester, his newly appointed SOS, another far left loon, decides to give away $60M... and that's just the start. How moronic has this country become, and how complacent has the 4th Estate become to allow this to go full steam ahead without massive protest. This administration is the worst ever!!!! Disgusting lies! Deceitful promises! Massive wealth distribution via illegal taxation!!! Executive orders that bypass Congress!!!! WTF????

seaskip

Hey Carry, as an Independent I agree with 90% of what the Dem's are doing

Independent , my @$$ If you walk like a duck , cuack like a duck , you are a duck. LOL

On the same day we hear about illegals being released, reduced border patrol, flight delays for lack of controllers, meat inspection problems, layoffs, military who can't afford equipment...and on and on and on, we commit $60 million to the Syrian rebels. Not sure who exactly is going to end up with the cash, whether they are for or against us or what they will they will spend it on but those are just details (like being $16 trillion in debt). What a group of financial wizards we have in Washington?

What is the point to another feudal gesture and the waste of 60 million? The Syrian rebels do need food and medicine, but without military support, weapons, training,etc. they are doomed to fail. Even we as a revolutionary movement would not have succeeded without the help we received from France. Yes France helped us with money, weapons, troops, and a navy! All that this 60 million will do is get more people killed. It will turn more people away from the US and into the arms of insurgents.

Democrat or Republican? Who requests? Who authorizes?...it matters not.

This shouldnt even be an option right now.

Sorry about that Syria. (Not really)

Obama won't be sending weapons to Syria......Oh suuurrreee he won't. Anyone who really believes that bullsh*t is a fool.

I don't see what the big deal is all they have to do is hit the COPY button a couple of billion times on the copy machine. The freight to send that money is more than the money is worth anymore.

Wow I even have to admit this is really stupid. The first big ticket for new Sec. State is throw money at rebels. I think I am having deja vu! I swear I saw this rerun on the Regan Contra Iran scandal. Starring Oliver North.

Amazing! I am forced to wonder if the roles were reversed if the Syrians would come over here to help train our military. Most likely NO they would NOT!

Sorry Kerry but right now this country needs that 60m much more than the Syrians do.

Yes there may be foreign pressure but when our Government cannot take care of their own issues and the US people's issues then why are wasting money helping those overseas who would never help US!

Mr. Kerry do you not see what the world sees, that the US Government is thoroughly out of control of itself.

Look what recently happend with Mr., Woodward, our government officals and President are trying to block Free Speech, a legal right while at the some time agreeing to spend our money on a war that is not ours!

ProIndividual-3906907...it appears you have said it correctly ..what we need now in this country is a third party..independents....today and for the past years neither the republican or democratic party has been for this nation as a whole or its people..unless you consider only the wealthy few as their people..in which case you would be correct. Most all of our politicans in washington are millionaires protecting themselves and their friends. There is no reason any politican should be able to set his or her own pay or benefits as all of congress has done for years....we voters have has no say in anything they propose for themselves...and pass that cost on to us voters. Now they will send millions to other country's while cutting benefits to everyone here in this country..other than millionaires of course who will get more rather than less. There should be limits on how long any politican can stay in office...or how many times he or she is allowed to run for any office....one of our probl;ems is that many of these so called politicans have been in office so long they do as they please..no matter what.

How about sending Me some of those things, "F" the foreigners. And I promise never to come back and bite the hand that feeds me.

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Some say that the Behgazi attack took place because Ambassador Stevens was meeting with the Turkish government on how to collect missing Libyan arms and ship them to the Syrian rebels covertly. They met in that unsavory neighborhood because that's where the black marketeers were located. Too bad the federal government chose to overlook the attack and walk away rather then attempt to save them.

Don't believe me? Check Hillary Clinton's Hill presentation when asked about Turkey and later Rand Paul's comments on gun running to Syria. Decide for yourself.

Here's what I think... No more dipping into our purse to send money to other countries while our own country is hurting. Education is getting worse every year. The housing market is still limping along, hand in hand with the rest of the economy. Medical care is becoming unreachable for many and medical costs still are the number one reason for bankruptcy filings in this country. Our infrastructure is crumbling. The job market is poor at best. I could go on and on, but I'll stop listing our needs for now. Enough is enough already with the handouts!

While food and medical supplies seems like the right thing to do, experience has shown us that these gifts often never make it to the poor people they were intended for. There are many countries out there that need help with food and medical supplies. We can't help them all. Hell, we can't even help ourselves here in the US.

Until we get out economic house in order, I say add up all our foreign aid for 2012, cut it by 50%, then use that as our foreign aid kitty. All the same players can get a share, just 50% less than last year. And if you want to give more to a country or give to a new cause, you have to cut the amount given to others to come up with the money. When the kitty is empty, it's empty. No emergency allotments. Want to make sure there is money for emergency gifts? Then don't give it all away right away. It's called fiscal planning.

Pull our military out of Afghanistan and Iraq immediately. Let them go back to fighting their own battles as they've done for centuries. No more nation-building there either. In fact, no more foreign aid for them for the next 10 years as they've already taken enough of our money.

Close 25% of all overseas bases.

Use our freed-up military to guard our borders. Post them all along our southern and northern borders to protect us from illegals and terrorists trying to sneak their way in. Give them guns with bullets and the clearance to use them as necessary.

Use some of the saved money to improve on our system for allowing people to come here and become citizens. Streamline the process, shorten the time span, toughen up on the rules. You must speak English or learn to do so within a year. You will not be educated in your native tongue. You may not receive assistance. You must come here with a job in place. You cannot bring over a family members unless you can support them, meaning, your income must be at a certain level per family member. No free medical care.

Companies that bring in foreign workers on those HB1 visas must have no more than 50% of their workforce made up of foreign workers. And they must take the same taxes out for these foreign workers that they do for American citizens. Yes, that means social security will be taken out and remitted to the gov't for a person who will never be able to collect it. Too bad.

Ha ha! I still remember when we were propping up the extremist Muslim fighters in Afghanistan. President Carter was singing their praise as people who simply want to practice their religion in peace... now another clueless dopehead will make us support the Syrian fanatics... we seem to never learn from our own history.

We'll be in there with military advisers within 90 days. Obama is the biggest Dem war hawk since LBJ.

John-2032532

You do realize that is because his domestic policies are so unpalatable that even his own party won't go along with them, right? The man wants to feel potent. Foreign policy is one of the only things that a president actually has control over. That is why many of the recent Presidents acted like foreign policy dictators.

The same could be said for every president since FDR.

Sorry, I have to add; Except Jimmy Carter who really didn't have a clue on either.

First we send them medical supplies, followed by Special Force teams to guard the supplies and if that won’t work we’ll invade the country from all sides to clear the paths for the same medical supplies, all the way to Damascus, to guarantee they get them intact.

I vote we spend the 60 mill on guarding our boarders.

First, The "Syrian Rebels" are Al Quada Syria (AQS), Al Quada Iraq (AQI), the Kurdistanis PKK, HPG, KGK.

Second, this is all occurring because of President Obama's Failed Foreign Policies that were seen by the Ayatollahs of Iran as President Obama negotiating from a position of US Defeat. So the Ayatollahs of Iran increased their Overt And Covert Activities against the US and US Allies.

Third, Pertaining to this area, the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Special Forces, Quds, has been training, arming, funding Millions of Holy Warriors of Islam at the Fundamentalist Islamic Autonomous Kurdistanis Region of Northern Iraq, Southern Turkey, Syria, and Northwestern Iran. This is just one reason why Iran had to get the US and US Allies Military Forces Kicked Out of Iraq by threatening the Iraqis Government with Iranian Military Force to eliminate the Iraqis Government; result the Iraqis Government tells President Obama and SOS Clinton no more negotiations, absolutely no Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA). President Obama withdraws the US Military "Combat" Forces and replaces them with "Non Combat" US Military trained as Combat Forces, the Iraqis are not fooled and demand an immediate withdrawal. President Obama as Commander In Chief Ordered the US Military Forces withdrawal to US Ally Kuwait and US Ally Saudi Arabia, they are later deployed to the Border of Syria, followed later by US Army Special Forces Teams. President Obama previously sent in hundreds of thousands of too expensive overpaid US Civilians of the US Contractors during his US Civilian Surges (Iraq and Afghanistan). There are still US Military Combat Forces providing Security with Combat patrols outside the wire to keep mortars, rockets, snipers out of range of the $1 Billion US Embassy at Iraq on the 104 Acres, that takes $1 Billion a year to operate.

These Millions of Holy Warriors of Islam are used by the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran as their "Proxy Fighters" Worldwide. The Chinese and Russian Federation have been using the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran as their "Proxy Fighter" to accomplish their Longtime Strategic Goal of getting the US and US Allies out of their Backyards (Resources).

Fourth, During Operation Cyclone we did NOT create the later 1990s Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban that after Operation Cyclone massacred our 1980s Pro US Afghan Muhajeen, and then unopposed started massacring any suspected "Collaborators to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers to Die a Horrible Murdering to Dwell in that Firey Place". We also did NOT create nor support Osama Bin Laden that was still living with his Rich Relatives at Saudi Arabia, nor his later Al Quada during Operation Cyclone. Fundamentalist Islamic Osama Bin Laden created his Al Quada to Overthrow the US Ally Saudi Arabian Government, then after President Clinton's Failed 1998 Operation Desert Fox, in retaliation started planning his 9/11 2001 Attacks of the same targets as his 1993 First World Trade Center Bombings.

Max^108 - Ha ha! I still remember when we were propping up the extremist Muslim fighters in Afghanistan.

YOU WERE NOT A PARTICIPANT (SURVIVOR) OF OPERATION CYCLONE AND KNOW NOTHING. I previously posted what happened there before we were ordered to abandon US Ally Afghanistan (the 1980s Pro US Afghan Muhajeen*) to be massacred by the 1990s Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban fully supported by the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran.

*After we vetted everyone in extreme detail to prevent Pro USSR Afghan and some Pakistanis Infiltrators, USSR Intelligence Assets, USSR Spetsnaz, etc. (this is how we knew Osama Bin Laden was NOT here) we found out that most were NOT "extremists", many were dirt Farmers that wanted their Land back, and no the majority were NOT growing poppies (the few that did that were persuded by the US "Hippies" that started Communes at Afghanistan), they were growing food to survive, many were merchants, business owners. During the 1950s to till the 1979 USSR 40th Army Occupation, the US Built up Afghanistan to a 20th Century Nation "Little America", later the 1990s Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban destroyed everything that was "Western", "Modern", "Non Islamic" after they massacred the 1980s Pro US Afghan Muhajeen and any suspected Collaborators to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers (most of the Afghan Population that survived the USSR 40th Army Occupation Total Conventional Warfare, including Carpet Bombings, millions of Area Denial Weapons (landmines), Chemical Warfare, Tanks leveling entire towns and villages, etc.).

Chris from Yucaipa - Any money allocated by our government originates in the House Appropriations Committee each year. They hold the purse strings, not Obama.

You can defend stup!d, Chris from Yucaipa, that just reflects on YOU.

Wrong, that all changed since 2009 with President Obama's Expanded Presidential Powers. Like when he violated US Law, 1973 War Powers Resolution (Act), that limits and restricts the Presidential War Powers and did not notify US Congress 48 Hours before any US Military Activities. I told you before that the Funds came from "Discretionary Spending" (13% of Federal Spending) without US Congressional Approval and without a US Law with US Congressional Appropriations to cover his arse like President Clinton and President Bush had to cover their arses.

Outspoken General Ham Commander US AFRICOM, Operation Odyssey Dawn and Operation Unified Protector criticized President Obama as well as about not allowing General Ham to send the US Military Forces of Operation Odyssey Dawn and Operation Unified Protector less than two hours away by slow propeller driving C-130s or US Military Helicopters, or at the very least precision ground support AC-130s and armed MQ(drones) during the over 7 hour attack of the US Consulate Benghazi.

President Obama demanded General Ham's Letter of Resignation, just like General McKiernan, General McChrystal, General Petraeus, etc.. Secretary of Defense Gates tendered his Letter of Resignation because of President Obama as Commander in Chief Ordered Reduction In Forces of 90,000 US Military Personnel, Unemployment of 108,000 DOD US Civilians. Secretary of Defense Penetta tendered his Letter of Resignation after President Obama as Commander In Chief Ordered an 11% Defense Budget Cut, 2012 Secretary of Defense Penetta stated, "A 10% Defense Budget Cut will result in a Million US Civilians becoming Unemployed". President Obama as Commander in Chief Orders a change to the US Military Mission, from Two Wars and Contingency Missions (including United Nation's Missions) Simultaneously; to One War or a Contingency Mission. In 2013 Interview Secretary of Defense Penetta, he "will go work on his (Walnut) Farm with a different kind of Nut".

Naomi Reed Watterson,

Two different Laws:

President Bush (43) Patriot Act, a Single US Law.

President Obama (44) Patriot Acts, Plural US Laws; Plus President Obama's 2012 NDAA Indefinite Detentions of US Citizens.

Fifth, Where was your outrage when President Obama sent the Palestinians $900 Million, with the United Nations Aid Workers at Palestine advising against that, as the Hamas Warlords by armed force took the $900 Million and used this to force more neutral Palestinians to either join Hamas or starve and face daily beatings. To prove their loyalty to the Hamas Warlords, the new members must serve as Hamas Foreign Fighters for at least 9 months, so suddenly we started killing and capturing more of them here at Afghanistan, the first contacts were with the NATO Spanish Military Forces atNorthwest Afghanistan right next to the border of Iran and the Old Silk Road that leads to Northern Iraq and the Autonomous Kurdistanis Region (See Third paragraph above).

To repeat the same mistake and expect different results SOS Clinton later gave $400 Million more to the Palestinians and that too was seized by the Hamas Warlords. And once again we ended up killing or capturing even more Hamas Foreign Fighters here at Afghanistan. Later on US Ally Israel destroyed most of the Hamas Warlord Compounds and Buildings where they were hoarding all the US Aid that was being withheld from the Palestinian people (unless they joined Hamas and became Hamas Foreign Fighters).

Deebo-2977870 - I think I am having deja vu! I swear I saw this rerun on the Regan Contra Iran scandal. Starring Oliver North.

Adolescent comment. If you knew the truth that Colonel Oliver North was attempting to get weapons, ammunition, military equipment to the Iranians Loyal to the Shah of Iran to Overthrow the newly formed Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Government, you would be praising him. Back then it was not an acceptable method to do that as Politically unacceptable (and very inexpensive, as well as someone else not US Military doing the fighting).

JoeNY Some say that the Behgazi Benghazi attack took place because Ambassador Stevens was meeting with the Turkish government on how to collect missing Libyan arms and ship them to the Syrian rebels covertly.

The attack on the US Consulate at Benghazi occurred because President Obama during the Reelection Campaign Inflamed the Islamic World to Violent Protests, Violent Demonstrations and Attacks with his "Osama Bin Laden is Dead, GM is Alive", with the over 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers of the Islamic World in response stating, "Obama, Obama We Are All Osama", "Obama Declared War Against Islam".

The "Libyan Rebels" supported by President Obama went to Libya to Murder US Ally President Gaddaffi the Collaborator to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers. The "Libyan Rebels" were Al Quada Saudi Arabia (AQ), Al Quada Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Al Quada Syria (AQS), Al Quada Yemen (AQY), Hezbollah, Al Quada Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), etc. after taking over Libya they became Ansar Al Shariah.

After President Obama's "Osama Bin Laden, GM is Alive" 2012 Reelection Campaign Speeches, Ansar Al Shariah starts planning the Attack on the US Consulate right next to where they are at Benghazi to coincide with the Greatest Defeat of the Great Satan (US) the 9/11 2001 Attacks by their Holy Warrior of Islam Superstar Osama Bin Laden.

Cairo protesters- Obama we are all Osama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pJGX1JzyFc

Obama Obama We Are All Osama (Tunisia)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udSEcQbM308

notice the white banner hanging on the tower, Ansar Ashariaa (Ansar Al Shariah). Those black flags are like used at Libya by the "Libyan Rebels" (Al Quada).

And nope JoeNY it is like I stated before the Decades of Weapons, Ammunition, Military Equipment taken by Ansar Al Shariah before the start of the "Libyan Civil War" was so that they could attack the rest of Africa. Verified by:

She (SOS Clinton) did say that there is no doubt that Algerian terrorists have weapons they obtained from depots in Libya that were opened up and “liberated” after the dictator Moammar Gadhafi was toppled, with U.S. and NATO help, in 2011.

The Mission of the CIA at the US Consulate at Benghazi was to locate the 20, 000 portable shoulder launched SA-7 anti aircraft missiles. That the "Libyan Rebels" (Al Quada) took from the Hight Razma Libyan Military Depot near Benghazi, Al Quada has stated that they will use the 20,000, SA-7s to shoot down US And US Allies Commercial Airlines to "Cripple the US Economy". previously reported by RT, BBC, LeMonde, Das Bild, Arabic Al Jazeera, etc. censored out of the US News Media.

Sixth, What President Obama is doing is AGAINST 18 USC § 2339A Providing Material Support to Terrorists, 18 USC § 2339B Providing Material Support or Resources to Designated Foreign Terrorist Organizations. Anti-Terrorism Act (ATA), 18 U.S.C. 2331 et seq.

President Obama's US Department of State lists Al Quada Iraq (AQI), Al Quada Syria (AQS), the Kurdistanis PKK, HPG, KGK as the "Syrian Rebels" as Terrorist Organizations and Individuals belonging to or associated with those Organizations as Terrorists.

June 2010 US Supreme Court Upholds the Ban on the Material Support to Terrorists and Terrorist Organzations.

Chief Justice John Roberts, writing for the majority, highlighted the government's interest in combating terrorism and said support that promotes peaceful conduct can nonetheless further dangerous activities. "Such support frees up other resources within the organization that may be put to violent ends," Roberts wrote, joined by John Paul Stevens, Antonin Scalia, Anthony Kennedy, Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito.

Since most of you don't understand and are too lazy to do the research, by giving a Terrorist Organization "Humanitarian Assistance", Medical Supplies, Building Materials, Food, Water, etc. you are freeing up the Terrorist Organizations Money to buy other things to conduct Terrorism like weapons, ammunition, bomb making materials, etc.. Also providing "Expert Advise" like Legal Advise Legitimizes the Terrorist Organization.

So what President Obama is doing has previously been Ruled ILLEGAL according to the Highest Court of the US, the US Supreme Court.

Too many voters embrace feel-good propaganda that they want to hear instead of learning the basic facts about issues they care about. They should do a better job of calling out dishonest politicians -- and shunning media outlets that stoke political food fights.

http://money.msn.com/investing/11-things-wrong-with-congress

If they admit to spending $$ 60 million...you can bet it is really $$$ 120 million or $$200 Million!!

Are the oil rich Sunni rulers and their sheikhs hiding in their harems?

Why can't they help their proxies Sunni Syrian rebels?

@Ster

$60 million (not billion) is an infinitesimally small amount to the U.S., but it's enough to show a tangible commitment (and support) to the likely next rulers of Syria. Is it that hard to understand that we need more allies in the middle east?

Not really sure why you brought up fast in the furious as that's completely unrelated.

As for the war in Libya, the amount spent there pales in comparison to Iraq and Afghanistan, the results more promising (than either of the two wars), and Libyans were grateful for the help we provided (unlike Iraq or Afghanistan).

In this case $60 million is cheap. Look at the bigger picture.

Come on, we are only broke if you look at the facts. So we have a budget deficit problem that needs addressing, now is not the time. We can rack up a ton more debt before this country is actually facing a real fiscal cliff, and by that time everyone that caused it will be out of office. We have a government of the people, for themselves.

You've been paying for multi-trillion dollar needless wars for the last decade. What's 60 million at this point? $60 million won't even buy one stealth bomber (which we don't need). In fact they run more than a billion a piece. Where's the outrage for that?

Foreign aid is destroying us as a Nation, how can we give out 53 Billion a year to foreign Countries when we are Broke !!!

Jeffor, the point is(Ms. Clinton) it needs to stop. We have learned enough from the past about the Mideast.

It is the the obama way !!! Bow down to me or you will die !!! I am your master now I am the great and power full obama

WTF!!! We are on the "brink" so our government tells us but they can send billions overseas?? Oh by the way, Silver, Obama doesn't have the supreme power to send that money overseas!! It's Congress's decision so place the blame evenly! I really get tired of the Obama blame game!! Every President has done this and yet not a peep out of the people until now! So if you can't be fair, shut up!!

The paper money system was set up by the first Continental Congress. All but 2 presidents have spent more than they took in. The world of high finances is extreemly complicated. The US Govt. is the largest and most poorly run business in the world. Directly or indirectly employing 50% of the US workforce (a guess) but mostly lawyers.

An alternative to paper money would be the barter system. In which farmers and land barons (gas cos.) become the ruling class. Most people have no idea how to raise and store the food to survive. The upside is 99.7% of all lawyers die off.

Humanity will not last as long as the dinosaurs. Everyone points fingers, no one provides solutions.

Imagine if you will a very large row boat. the rowers on the lft side are pulling, the rowers on the right are pushing, some oarsmen sit in the middle just shaking their heads----the boat goes nowhere. Until everyone pull together the boat goes absolutely nowhere. Like it or not the boat has a captain.

Yes highpckts you are right congress is at faualt too, and I see you voted for the obama so that makes you one of his slaves, It's people like you who think obama can do no wrong your such a brain-washed fool why don't you shut the fuk up, Dumb @ $ $

EVERYONE complaining needs to remember who voted for and against this kind of crap next congessional elections. VOTE THEM OUT!!! Call them, e-mail them, write them, and if you DON'T let them know how you feel, don't complain about it. If you have the time to sit here and write your feelings, you have time to send them to congress.

Jeffor -

The Sequester is starting tomorrow with 46 billion cut from the military.

You should be ecstatic!

Jeffor - please see my comment above. What makes this worse is that the fact that the POTUS has been campaigning about how horrible the cuts will be and then turns around and allows money to be promised elsewhere. It makes it a lot more difficult to deal with after the gloom and doom preaching.

Give that 60 Million to Americans that are losing their homes and living in the streets feeding their kids dog food, enough with giving our tax money to Nuts like Syrian, Israel, Iraq - Stop throwing our money away !!!

Give it up Jeff, you keep babbling your rant defending the current president by claiming that he is no better than the last. Well that is one way to justify someone's downfalls, "he is not as bad as the other guy", this is not a good way to justify someone's actions. This is something my kids would do to try and transfer blame to the other, very immature.

The other side of this is that you are dead wrong, Bush was not worse. Keep telling yourself that though, pat yourself on the back thinking that you "did the right thing"...

Did anyone call up Kerry and tell him that WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY and there is going to be a Seq cut to that effect coming up this month? Is he living in the same country as I am?

Obama won't be sending weapons to Syria......Oh suuurrreee he won't. Anyone who really believes that bullsh*t is a fool.

He didn’t sell automatic weapons to the drug cartel, nor did Holder but somebody did??

It would be much more responsible IF OUR GOVERNMENT SPENT THIS 60M on helping our own victims of natural disasters. Fires, storms and drought has hurt too many Americans, leaving many without a home, clean water or heat.

Yet we continue to help those overseas and in their homegrown wars long before we help our own.

Washinton Dc all of them in political positions have FAILED THIS COUNTRY OVER AND OVER AGAIN< THAT CHANGE---WHERE IS IT OBAMA< for you are failing US!

sigh -- we don't know why our money (or whatever) will go to aid the Syrian rebels, just that it's going to happen. One would think that it is something that will benefit America. Given that America is so indebted, the aid is not given to advance the current administration politically. So, here we are, it seems, in a dammed if you do and dammed if you don't situation. At this point, it doesn't matter who or what got us in this debacle. Republicans, Democrats, conservatives, liberals can all stand up and take a bow.

Don't know about you, but I'm sick and tired of this political infighting in congress, and as these posts go, among ourselves. Until each faction is willing to do what is right for America and not what furthers the "party," we're going to continue to go down this path of destruction.

If you are a staunch Republican, Democrat, right, left, consertative, liberal, wake up! -- Both "sides" have gotten us to where we are today, in big debt and therefore vulnerable.

yo Silver chill the f__k out 1st right freedom of speech who he/ or she voted for isnt your business

The worst thing is that we borrow 46% of every thing we spend. Why should we borrow money to support people we don't even know? It's insane !!

The big liar Hanoi John Kerry .. what a joke!!!

No Budget in over 4 years...Balanced or not!! Obama and Reid control enough to bring a Budget.

They can NOT find any place to cut , We MUST increase taxes even more!!..If the DC idiots talk about cutting .. it would involve killing GranMa or taking away all of our soldiers bullets, while supplying the enemy with even more.

Wake up America. this is treason from our fearless leaders!!

So could the money that members of Congress make per year. If their pay was reduced to the median income of workers in the US(51k per year) vs Congress starts,....let me say that again, STARTS at around 171k!, and they supposedly work for you and me. If they'd cut their own salaries, which aint about to happen, that alone would save around 5.5 million a year. Lot's o' places that money could go to! If you own your own business, PLEASE hire me and let me set my own pay rate!

Chuck- I am with you on this!

Congress should make nothing more than the MEDIAN income of the US average citizen.

IF they do a good job then incentives should kick in. Nothing more.

IRS should do a full audit of all congressional members. Love how president's go in thousandaires and come out worth 30 million dollars.........??? how is this possible?

Most of the 60 Mill will end up in some future terrorist groups hands and they will end up talking S#$t about the U.S.A., kick some money back to Lurch and give him a medal that he will wear on his lapel above the American flag.

Isn't it nice how congress gets to vote and give themselves a pay raise? How many people out there get to do that? I tried that once.....walked into the boss's office and said HEY!!! Just to let you know I'm giving my self a nice raise in pay. Dog gone....next pay check was the same.....when I asked the boss about it I got the answer congress is so good at....a dumb look.

How about WE THE PEOPLE start a petition to pass a law BY REFERENDUM that requires ALL elected officials pay increases to be approved by REFERENDUM! If the congress person in your district does a good job you can vote to give him/her a pay raise, if they stink, vote NOT to give them one.

WE THE PEOPLE can FORCE this on congress, we can FORCE a referendum on them. We just have to make it happen.

I agree that congrees is vastly overpayed and with a cadillac retirement and medical plan. But don't forget that Obama recently raised the pay of federal employees by executive order. And does anyone remember when Hillary was campaigning against Obama in 07? She said in one speech that ALL americans should have the same medical plan she had. Then one of her advisors got a hold of her and informed her that Nobody but the U.S. government could afford a plan as luxourious as the one she had. You never heard that in any other speech.

But why are any of you worried about sending 60 Million in aid to Syrian rebels. It's only money. We'll just print more. It's not like that would make the currency worthless or anything. Oh wait, it would. Ah, what the hell. By the time the bill comes due Obama will be out of office so what does he care?

I agree that congrees is vastly overpayed and with a cadillac retirement and medical plan.

The New House of Lords.

How does that song P.L.U.C.K. go by System of a Down? Oh yeah:

Revolution, the only solution,

We've taken all this sh**, now it's time for restitution.

trackdog yes, Kerry made that decison unilaterally.

Read something...

They should make an endless loop recording of "Can't Buy Me Love" and blare it into every office in the State Dept.

you expect them to change? they are doing what they have always done, and we keep bending over saying, thank you sir may i have another? why? do we vote such moronic idiots into office?

WHERE does anyone say we are sending money to Syria? What I read is that the US is buying medical supplies, etc. (helping to stimulate the US economy) and sending those supplies, not guns, over to help people in need. Desperate people may just thank the US some day and getting rid of the current leadership this way is a whole lot cheaper than the neocon way of waging war.

If you think the new Secretary of State is sending cash, you have zero credibility.

Boromir - No, I believe jw101 is expressing concern that we are under such a severe budget crisis here we are releasing criminals from jails and at the same time sending our tax dollars to yet another foreign hell-hole where the people hate us.

Regardless of the budget and how it got where it is, you can't keep letting the country go to hell, you have to spend money to fix things. If I have to take out a loan to fix my roof regardless of the cost, it's better than letting the rest of my home go to waste. The GOP is willing to let the country go to hell to save the wealth of a few. America just set a bench mark in billionaires, and millionaires, so why can't a teacher, fireman, public heath worker, etc. make a living wage ?

Boromir, your analogy about house repair is a little off my friend, it should read more like this:

"...my roof is bad, so I get my neighbor the Doctor and his fat cat friend the businessman to buy me a new one, since they have more than me it is only fair. Never mind that I could have patched the roof myself when it first started leaking... that would have been HARD work, no time for that you know. After I get my free roof I use my money to throw a party for some people visiting from out of town, and we get together and bitch about how rich people have it so good.

@Boromir... "Same people that say to do somethning, now bitch when something is done.. must be a true GOP hugger." You hit the nail on the head!!!

Boromir, why spend American Money? Both Parties here agree with have a budget problem. Spending money we don't have on Syria will not help our economy. And this isn't a GOP or DEM problem, it's a leadership problem.

And last time I checked, Fireman, Teachers, Public Health Workers are making a living wage. They are living and earning. Define a living wage. To each it's different. Those who don't have a job would love to have those people's "Living Wage". Sheesh, define it rather than parrot other's rants.

The tax hike on the wealthy went retroactive on the working class. Now the government wants to raise taxes on the working class which will also go retroactive on the rich everyone loses except Washington! Who says their sending money over sea but in fact are laundering the money to their pockets who verifies this money is sent? It's like the IRS doing an audit on them-selves, and we are the idiots that pay for it! Gloom and doom now you know the American people will never be in control and never will be! The president doesn't have tell anyone what he's up to Americans have sucker written all over their faces welcome to the real world SUCKERS!

Boromir-

Did OBAMA campaign on his fist term that America was arrogant and meddling in world affairs????

and yet the spender in chief with Lurch at his side is spending on countries that will use that money against the USA.

You sir are a hypocrite- must be a on your knees Democrat for Obama. Start sucking.

Watch out when they say "non-lethal" support, can you feel the skunks hands slipping your wallet out of your pocket...unbelievable how the pos potus can get away with this @!$%# and no one seems to be able to stop him...

Typical blah blah kool-aid blah blah blah libtards blah blah marxist blah blah.

Thief looks like a good definition for your mindset.

Interesting point. If Obama wants to tax the rich and make them "pay their fair share", he could have started here and taken the $60 million from Kerry.

What am I thinking? Obama was all over Romney about the accounts in the Caymans and now he appoints a treasury secretary that is deep in Cayman accounts. Foolish of me not to realize it's only evil when a other guy from the other side does it.

John Kerry has no personal money - he stole it from hard working Republicans. Their name is Heinz. John Kerry has no idea what it takes to earn a living. He only knows how to spend other people's money.

Sally Ann do have have an extra 65k laying around or is it in Cayman also, by the way Sally Ann would you ask Obama where did he find that extra 60 Million to give to the rebels, when he order the illegals let loose from prison because he claims we can't afford to keep them lock up now, trying to scare the American public and cried wolf

Detroit isn't bein' bombed everyday, and you should really learn more about where our "money" comes from. It's called the Federal Reserve, which is a privately run institution, which no American has a voice or vote on. We don't owe China as much as you think. I agree we owe them too much, but again, it's not as much as you think.

You don’t have to owe china much money, people in that country say; owes 500 dollars to a thousand dollars

they usually hand their children over to work off the debt when there about 13 years of age and when they get too old to lay on their backs, they still owe hundreds of thousands of dollars, so the Americans better get used to laying on their backs and serving the Chinese because we will be old and grey and still owe our grandkids, grandkids first second and third born! It’s like a car title loan on steroids

Sally..."low informed"? Are you aware Lew, Obama's treasury secretary, took a $945,000.00 bonus in Jan. 2009. Do you know who he got the bonus from? He got it from CitiGroup, who got your tax dollars in the form of a bailout, for brief a tenure there.

If Lew has any influence over decisions regarding the big corporate bankers, do you think he is going to move in your favor or the big banks?

Sorry, but the hope, change and hope for change thingy has not moved "forward". It's back to politics as usual in DC.

Some people have had their blinders on so long, they will have to be surgically removed.

One of the ironies here is that Kerry's net worth is roughly double that of Mitt Romney thanks to his marriage to the ketchup queen. But not a peep from the left about how he is an extremely rich, out of touch, white guy, owns multiple homes, yachts and has foreign bank accounts (exactly the type Obama lambasted at election time). Coincidence?? I don't think so.

Sally Ann why are you still on here? aint nobody give 2 cents rat ash about you >.> go back to the rock you came out in

You mean, Sandy and Obama victims. First the hurricane victimized them and then Obama used them for political gain.

Don't be a victim...

Do us a favor and take that tripe over to Limbaugh's web site where it can be appreciated.

If the Sandy victims were predominately Black or Hispanic the press would be screaming RACISM that they are still not being helped by the government.

But because they are white, now that the election is over, no one cares.

Especially not the White House.

Janine, you mend the House of Shame, right?

While I do not believe any issue with the Sandy victims being racist (that's just dumb in this day and age), I do find it astonishing that we couldn't get money to the victims because of "Congress", but magically, we can find 60 million to give to the rebels in Syria.

I know, I know, it was 60 million in food, medicines shelters... gee, I wonder if the Sandy Victims could have used food, medicine and shelters.

Janine, park your obvious prejudice for a minute, and compare the racial ratios in New Orleans, and especially the time of year for workers to get into the area where Sandy hit. Also, many people are voluntarily selling their homes and being bought out by the govt at fair market value, as per pre Sandy values, and they're not being forced to. And a LOT of the blame also lays in the hands of insurance companies. When's the last time you lost your home and dealt with the insurance company?? I'm guessin' NEVER. Now....where's the prejudice that the media should scream RACISM about? No offense, but it's just obvious that you're dumb as a rock.

Yes Christy’s OK with it! And he’s White!

Folks, Sandy is not the first time Obama has USED natural disaster victims for political gain:

June 5, 2007 Obama gave a speech at Hampton University where he accused the Bush administration of not caring about the people of New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, based on New Orleans not being exempt from the Stafford Act as New York City and Florida had been exempted after disasters. Two weeks earlier that very exemption was granted in an 80-14 vote in the Senate. Not only did Obama vote on it, he was one of the 14 that voted AGAINST giving New Orleans the waiver.

So when he gave the speech on June 5th, he was telling a premeditated, bald-faced lie.

Chuck295... you obviously don't live here on the coast in New Jersey. We are freezing and hungry and it's not because of insurance, and the offer is only half of fair market value. You are flat lying!

Chuck295...No relocation, no credit card with $2000.00 on it, no lights for heat for 2 months, if you leave your home you will be a victim to theives. What does all that have to do with insurance companies? Christy dosen't care either.

Christy is busy getting ready for the 1914 Superbowl in East Rutherford.

This is not CONGRESS...this is the "SUPREME EXECUTIVE" The Muslim HUSSEIN OBAMA...How can you libertards be that dishonest? It's not Republicans,,its the DAMN DEMOCRATS YOU JUST RE-ELECTED!!!!!

SallyAnn, EXBOSTON is just one more insane person that had a couple of minutes on his hands and decided to purge some nonsense from the gray matter.

Clearly, he doesn't understand how his own government works let alone all of the Republicans admonishing the administration or "not doing enough" for the Syrian rebels.

If Obama was a Republican, you'd hear car horns all day because he made a decision to help Syria. I think I'm gonna start a new business making tissues that have "I'm a whining Republican" printed on 'em. lol

Obama is not a Muslim, however,

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

He's NOT american!!

what race is obama? did he even show his birth certificate during his first term? Just Curious

That was the money pit called Iraq.

That would be correct, Obama is a muslim, and he is taking care of his own people.

Thankyou for leaving as we have enough cowards in this country as it is.

Thank you for staying, as we can never have too many sheep in this country.

Thankyou for leaving as we have enough cowards in this country as it is.

The biggest ones are the ones who buy up all the surplus ammo on the market and talk like they're going to overthrow the government with their friends, but never do. You know, the ones who are in an uproar about the dismantling of the Second Amendment, but never heard a peep out of them when the Patriot Act and NDAA were sh!tting on the First and Fourth. At least there's some intelligent individuals who would rather move and invest their money in a society that looks out for one another, instead of seeks ways to drone strike everyone else and illegally spy on their citizenry.

For god's sake man, your name is 7.62x39mm. Don't act like you're not one of these people I speak of.

Ranman87...theres still room on the coward bus leaving soon, you can sit next to Joe...

Ranman87...theres still room on the coward bus leaving soon, you can sit next to Joe...

I'm already living abroad somewhere else. Can't answer my original comment though, can you?

That might have something to do with the fact that it is a stupid post?

What do you care about our Constitutional RIGHTS, if you don't live here (and the chances are you're not an American)?

What do you care about our Constitutional RIGHTS, if you don't live here (and the chances are you're not an American)?

Because I want you to wake the hell up and realize that the government doesn't care about your "Constitutional rights" anymore.

60 Million - not Billion

Still I don't agree with the decision. But there is a huge difference in the two amounts.

HOPE: to quote a DEMOCRAT "60 million here,, 60 million there,,soon we are talking about real money",,,this is like some 18 year old kid,,,I have checks in my checkbook,,so I must have money. People all thru this thread,,say it's a "MISTAKE",,,WRONG! They (OBAMA) are intentionally doing this to bankrupt this country,,it is not a black helicopter conspiracy, just a plan to bring our country to it's knees,,,and give power to others.

BTW the DEMOCRAT who said that in 2006: NANCY PELOSI who also said last week, "WE DON'T HAVE A SPENDING PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY"

EXBOSTON, who is he trying to "give" power to and how do you know this?

Hope, Million, billion, When you don't have it, it doesn't much matter.

Steve, I think they call it "humanitarian aid". I agree with you. Charity begins at home. How can we throw money to other countries like beads and candy at Mardi Gras, yet it literally took an act of congress and months of debate to help the victims of hurricane Sandy and Katrina? How in our right minds can we send money to foreign countries while people right here in our own country are still standing in front of their gutted homes waiting for help. It's a f*@%ing disgrace.

Are you surprised? Do you remember when John Kerry ran for President?

EXBOSTON, What amazes me is half the people and I'm sure you can't believe those numbers but half the people THINK this idiot is doing a good job as president. Do we really have a nation of morons? Obama is taking this country right down the toilet and if that isn't bad enough the senate and congress are watching him do it. This is what happens when we don't have term limits you have 80 year old guys in there that are half dead sleeping through meetings so out of touch it's pitiful. We are going to layoff critical people because we have no money but we can send 60 million in aid?

exboston...quit scaring the children...go have a latte and relax, your skunk of a potus has it all under control...the sequester is just a smoke screen to keep people focused on some drivel, while the powers work on tearing up the constitution...

"...while the powers work on tearing up the constitution..."

And work on amnesty for illegals.

beanne...Yes!

noooooo we are out of money and broke!!! I guess we can just print more.

Where are all of the liberal posters on this board today? They only make comments after the liberal biased media comes out with slanted polls.

Nice job President Zippie. Borrow $60 million from China and send it to the Muslim Brotherhood. Does Obama even have the slightest clue. I hope those ignorant voters who put him back in office are happy and proud. Then again as long as they keep getting their entitlements they could care less about much else.

Gas prices continue to rise!! Food price up, up , up!! Go a job, count your blessings. That is if you have not been indoctrinated to mooch of the tax payers!!

Sequester, government buildings won't be able to supply toilet paper in restrooms, sequester, monkeys will come flying out of our butts!