Hey Theowhy101OR, Iran is so close to the bomb, that I wouldn't even call it pre-emptive at this point anymore. Would you prefer Iran builds the bomb BEFORE anybody tries to stop them?

Or maybe we can get the UN to condemn Iran again - yeah that'll do the trick!

@Theohwy101OR - you sound disgruntled at being Israels lapdog. :-P Well.... fortunately a growing majority of us agree with you - which does not bode well for Israels future World Domination plans. I dont see why we should stand in the way of Israel going to war with Iran. Just as long as it is Israelis sacrificing for it and not Americans. This has been a long time coming sadly.

He will not be own his own.

The USA and Britain will be right behind him all the way.

And Israel does not have "world domination plans".

Muslims do.

Wake up.

lol @ Chris: Israel's world domination plans? You mean fighting for your her mere existence, while continuing to do the things that the world needs but nobody else has the balls to do?

Lay off the Kool-aid, take a couple pills of smarten the f@#k up, and call me in the morning.

Viewer_Ready...before you shoot your mouth off learn to write better. It is not "own his own"...but "on his own".

What I am more concerned about is the "poor analytical skills, limited information on critical international issues, poor organizational skills, clumsy communication skills and lack of self awareness" among so many people who have passionate opinion on this matter...but their thinking and their knowledge is really low or inadequate. Imagine the kind of decisions they are going to make or support? Think excitement over the invasion of Iraq!

Higher Power, Evolved Alien, Common Sense or Good Luck help Us!

Mr Netanyahoo gets far too much attention in the American press. Are there no other voices in Israel, or here?

And the Israeli-Iran conflicts is the only international issue in the American media! What is that about?

I would agree 100% there are no world domination plans - that was cynical trolling on my part. ;-| What I will say though is Israel do seek to control media and other arenas as a means of self preservation - or at least this is a common belief. I dont think that is any real secret these days that people feel that way. The fact is you are correct to say the US would gladly be the lapdog of Israel seeing how many election campaigns are funded by pro-Israel groups. Talk about political suicide not to. But dont kid yourself, a large number of average Americans (and quite possibly a very large majority) are not happy about being Israels lapdog or sending them money. Not that those same people are happy about sending money to Pakistan or anyone else. Nor do they care if they go to war with Iran as long as it is not their kids over there. Iraq was a big wake-up call for this country. It will be interesting to see how far getting US involvement and guiding our policy like a puppet will be tolerated before the rubber-band snaps back. But in the event you think a majority of Americans want to sacrifice for Israel then I encourage you to leave your home and travel this country and talk to people. You might be awfully surprised at what the average American thinks about Israel. We think it is an irritant. and so is Iran for that matter... but Iran is being sensationalized in order to keep our war machine busy. Iraq was a goldmine. Can you imagine what Iran would do for making some company rich? !!

While I do not support everything that Israel does, Netanyahu does have a point when it comes to setting some deadline for Iran. The sanctions have not stopped their nuclear program and the the idea that we are just going to continue with sanctions and attempts at diplomacy indefinitely is absurd. There needs to be a point where we say that no matter what we do they are not going to stop and we have to stop them. No one in their right mind believes that the Iranians are not working towards nuclear weapons. Just the fact that they are building their facilities where they are and that they have refused IAEA inspections of the sites says pretty clearly that they are hiding something. If Iran's nuclear program truly was only for peaceful purposes they would not be building their facilities in hardened sites and preventing IAEA access to the sites. International experts with no connection to the US or Israel have said that they believe Iran is working on nuclear weapons. Obama will not do anything about Iran's nuclear program. He has made it pretty clear that he will not take any action to stop Iran until he actually sees an actual nuclear weapon tested at which point it will be too late. Iran getting nuclear weapons represents a clear danger to the entire world and it must not be allowed to happen. The fanatics running Iran would not hesitate to use a nuclear weapon if it meant they could destroy Israel, even if it meant they would be killed themselves. They would gladly die as martyrs to their cause if it they could take Israel with them. This is the mentality we are up against with the Iranians and this is the reason they can not be allowed to get nuclear weapons.

JSinSD, it's amazing that we even have to explain the case for preventing a nuclear Iran.

What clowns like Chris failt to appreciate is that, like it or not, the US interests are aligned with Israel's interests when it comes to preventing Iran from getting the bomb.... as inconvenient as that may be to some peoples' political agendas. How long do you think it will be before terrorists start trying to enter our country with a nuclear suitcase once Iran gets nuclear weapon capabilities? And our porous Mexican border gives them the perfect opportunity to do so. Let alone, as you said, their willingness to martyr themselves. So to those who don't think Iran poses a real threat to the US, I hope that suitcase goes off in front of your house, and not mine!

Iran will likely get nuclear weapons. Let Israel and Iran figure out their problems by themselves. There is no way to stop them building it. Who knows they could be developing in multiple places underground. Unless one journeys downstairs to see them, people will never know.

It's not to build but to put finishing touches on nuclear bomb.. Iran has assisted North Korea in its last 2 tests and its rocket capabilities, because Iran knows Israel wont attack North Korea. it's the old bait and switch !

No one in their right mind believes that the Iranians are not working towards nuclear weapons.

Yeah and Iraq was still building WMDs. I've heard this story before. Declare it so without proof and then it's bombs away! and billions more wasted on another war.

Just the fact that they are building their facilities where they are and that they have refused IAEA inspections of the sites says pretty clearly that they are hiding something.

Of course Fodrow is underground. The US and Israel are constantly threatening to bomb Iran! Where would you put it? Also it IS under IAEA inspections along with the rest of their nuclear facilities so you are wrong or lying.

The fanatics running Iran would not hesitate to use a nuclear weapon if it meant they could destroy Israel, even if it meant they would be killed themselves.

Why becuase you say so? You war mongers just want to attack someone and make the US more broke in the process. If Israel want's to go to war then @!$%# 'em, they can do it on their own.

Israel will never be on its own.

Beyond any human intervention, God is on Israel's side.

Your words are filled with hatred.

This tiny nation is surrounded by extreme Muslim factions in Muslim nations, and being hit with mortar shells every day. And Americans that fail to protect the one being bullied are haters.

Mr. Netanyhu's assessment is concise.

He is American educated, by the way.

You sir are a flaming idiot. There's no way we can let any of those islamic loony tunes get their grubby terrorist hands anywhere near a nuclear weapon. And for those other nitwits who say wait until there is absolute proof, yeah let's wait until we see a mushroom cloud. But never fear the US won't get involved odumbo is too much of a coward for that, besides he's too busy pandering to illegals and giving my tax money to every loser with their hand out.

Beyond any human intervention, God is on Israel's side.

Good then they don't need us.

@Realist17 "it's amazing that we even have to explain the case for preventing a nuclear Iran. What clowns like Chris failt to appreciate is that, like it or not, the US interests are aligned with Israel's interests when it comes to preventing Iran from getting the bomb.... as inconvenient as that may be to some peoples' political agendas. How long do you think it will be before terrorists start trying to enter our country with a nuclear suitcase once Iran gets nuclear weapon capabilities?"

No what is amazing are clowns like you. Does Israel not have nukes? How about the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France, Germany, etc.? Why do/can they all have nukes, but Iran CANNOT. Why can they have a "gun", but Iran cannot? I would want a gun too if everyone else had one, and it is one the reasons I bought a gun. To be equal. What you are basically saying is that Iran is a piece of chit that is unworthy of having a gun/nuke EVER and you wonder why they want one...

This should prove just how stupid you and others are. What does "telling" someone they "cannot" do something normally do? Do they ever listen to you, or does it encourage them to do whatever it is you told them not to? It encourages them to do what you told them not to do morons and I take it that you have never had children, or were a bad parent to them.

All because "one person in Iran said that they want to nuke Israel"...gee ONE WHOLE PERSON. Our politicians do not talk chit all the time huh? I wonder if we could find an American that wants to nuke Israel? I know at least one American that wants to turn Israel into a sheet of glass since humanity cannot stop fighting over that one piece of land/material. Guess they speak for the entire country huh, or do you not understand how the political power is distributed in Iran or the U.S.? The person that said it does not have that much power over the program, THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT LEADER chit for brains. If only we did not have a Jewish controlled or favorable media in this country, if only.

Only a pro-Israeli thinks The U.S. and Israel's interests are the same, and it is good propaganda/P.R.. The U.S. only cares about cheap oil atm and the vast majority of Americans could give a chit about Israel plain and simple. Cheap oil was why we supported the Shaw (a dictator) back in the 70's when the people wanted a democracy. We only support freedom when it does not hurt our wallets and our Jewish masters have taught us to only care about, "MONEY" above all else plain and simple. Guess who got the tax rates lowered in this country so they could have more money to give/send to Israel? All it takes is shooting some U.S. presidents to get the tax rate dropped 20% the first time and 20% the next time. The only reason someone would even want to bring a nuke into this country in the first place is because we have supported Israel over the years, sent them billions of dollars every year, and have turned a blind eye to all the immoral things they have done to the people over the years.

Only a dumba$$ would even think that even if Iran got a nuke that they would use it against Israel. It would be suicide for the country of Iran. Could they not just buy a nuke from China or Russia and repackage it if they really wanted one or needed one? YES THEY COULD.

To say there is not world domination plans is naive and stupid too. Hate to break it to you, but most countries see themselves as world leaders and want some say so or control just as every single human being does too. Israel wants a "say so" like everyone else does and are willing to break the most rules to do it. Israel has gotten control of the world through banking plain and simple, and it was how they did it back in the middle ages. "But that was another group", it might have started as a different one, but it turned into a Jewish one after the first crusade since they still wanted their precious land back. What happened before that group's collapse? Was almost every country in Europe not in debt to them? Yes they were. How many countries are in debt today to "international" banks? Gee I wonder what is going to happen? I cannot even go to most Christian churches without hearing about Israel and the plight of the Jews...might as well be synagogues.

People cause the very same problems they love to complain about. If only Israel did not have so many nukes already. If only Israel did not break so many rules and laws. If only Israel actually cared about the U.S. or its people and did not kill them. If only Israel did not exist, the world would be a better place. If only Jewish people actually listened to God and did what he asked them to do the world would be a better place. STFU about the land/material for one second. He told you to be "examples" to humanity FIRST before he gave you any land. He also kicked you the f*** out of the that land for a reason. Why would God change his mind, and what makes you think that you can act in a similar manner now? Was that not why you got kicked out in the first place? YES, IT WAS MORONS.

I will not comment other than to say I was once told this.... "Never argue with a ignorant person for they will only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

"Life is tough, it is even tougher when you are stupid." ....John Wayne

"Why should the Arabs make peace? If I were an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, it's true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been antisemitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that? They may perhaps forget in one or two generations' time, but for the moment there is no chance." David Ben-Gurion, first prime minister of Israel

".....God promised it to us...." - That's a dangerous precedent for deciding who land belongs to. Maybe god promised your house to me!

"For eight years now, they have sat in the refugee camps of Gaza and have watched how, before their very eyes, we have turned their lands and villages, where they and their forefathers previously dwelled, into our home." General Moshe Dayan, Israeli military hero - 1956

I say gather all the Israelis, move them here and give them Nevada - similar climate and topography and cheaper in the long run. Then attain energy independence and pull out of the middle east for good. Otherwise it will continue to drain our treasury and drag us into wars. There will be no peace there, ever.

Wonderful Theohwy101OR. Just how do we determine the borders of nations? As they say, it ain't easy! Try your ideas at the UN. That body politic buys into the craziest ideas on the planet. But how about amending your idea and giving Israel New York and Florida. The Jews already own those states and it would be a simple process to bring the rest over here. You could throw in Pennsylvania to sweeten the pot. Out with the Amish and in with the Hasidim! See if you can convince your Congressman to sponsor a bill to make that happen. You and your Congressman could get the Nobel Peace prize.

If you want to see what Israeli right wingers (Netanyahu's bunch) think of the US, go any of the "free Jonathan Pollard" web sites and read the comments. During the Cold War, there were around four times as many Israeli spies caught in the US as all the Communist Bloc (Russia + China — Eastern Bloc) spies put together. They spied on the US and stole the plans and key components for their nuclear arsenal. That's why they do not have a long history of nuclear testing --- the bombs were essentially "born in the USA."

Now they don't want Iran to develop a bomb???? Would it be okay if they used spies to steal the plans and key components from us?

@CosmoX,

Too late, Bucko. The Pakistanis have 110-120 nuclear bombs and warheads currently and produce about 10-15 more each year. And they have the missiles, fighters and bombers to deliver them. The Turks have 40 US-made NATO 1.1mt nuclear warheads under their direct control and under their lock and key. They have the fighter-bombers to deliver them and missiles that can carry them in the tactical theater.

And it was a Republican President who looked the other way when Pakistan was njot only developing these weapons, but sending the technology to North Korea, Syria, Libya, and Iran. And it was a Republican President that instructed NATO to go to the "weapons sharing" program that gave nukes to NATO to give to Turkey.

So, I guess you are screwed. Those "islamic loony tunes" already have a bunch of nukes.

So, you want another war? I hope you are pack up and ready to move out when it happens. Until then, you are just talk and nothing more.

War mongrel, nothing more, nothing less. That's what lead to the last 2 wars.

War with Iran is inevitable. I'd rather see it before they have the bomb.

Hey Realist - If you really were a realist, you would realize that Iran's nuclear enrichment is monitored by the IAEA, making it virtually impossible for Iran to enrich to the 97% threshold reqired for a nuclear weapon.

Netanyahu is a complete fool. read what he said in 1992.

'1992:'Israeli parliamentarian Benjamin Netanyahu tells his
colleagues that Iran is 3 to 5 years from being able to produce a nuclear
weapon – and that the threat had to be "uprooted by an international front
headed by the US"'.

1992:
Joseph Alpher, a former official of Israel's Mossad spy agency, says "Iran
has to be identified as Enemy No. 1." Iran's nascent nuclear program, he
told The New York Times, "really gives Israel the jitters."

Here it is 2013 and Iran still has no nuclear weapon.

In a recent interview with CNN, Joint Chiefs Chairman Martin Dempsey said
he believed the Iranian regime was a "rational actor" when it comes to the nuclear program. Dempsey said Iran would likely weigh the
ultimate costs and benefits of building a nuclear weapon before doing so. James
Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence, recently told a Senate panel
that a decision had not yet been made by the regime in Tehran.

It appears that our intelligence community doesn't really believe Iran is a threat. Why don't you Zionists leave this country and go fight for Israel in Iran. We patriotic American will be glad to wave goodby and hope to hell you never come back to America. Your loyalties are clearly with Israel, as none of you have ever expressed any remorse for the way the Zionist/neocons, led by Paul Wolfowitz led us into the war in Iraq, by fabricating and cherry picking the intel and then selling it to the public with the Zionist controlled media.

No more wars for Israel and lets discontinue aid to the parasites in Israel.

Who is Owebama?

Iran is a signatory of the NNPT -- Israel isn't.

Iran is guaranteed the right to the peaceful use of nuclear technology. Iran does not have to buy its medical isotopes from Israel at an inflated price just to suit your paranoia.

Israel lies. Israel's blowing up scientists in Iran, while calling Iran a nation of terrorists. They're completely blind to their own hypocrisy.

Israel needs to sign the NNPT -- and until they do, they have no right to try to drag the world into a conflict. If Israel wants a nuclear free mideast, then let them begin by signing the NNPT and having inspectors keep account of all of Israel's materials.

If you don't find that acceptable, then you're a shill for Israel. Israel needs to learn to live with the same rules She insists upon imposing on others. The world isn't going to put up with that sort of hypocrisy.

Quote: "Iran is a signatory of the NNPT" This proves they are honorable men, all honorable men, Right!

This proves they will obey International Law, Right! Then why did they invade U. S. Territory and occupy it for over a year? (The, US Embassy.) THAT is also against International Law.

Then why did they invade U. S. Territory and occupy it for over a year?

Because the US along with the Brits staged a coupe to overthrow Iran's democracy first and placed a dictator in power. Your memory is SHORT!

To viewerready - If Iran didn't need a nuclear power plant, why was America helping to build one during the Reagan administration?

Iran has signed the NPT, unlike the sneaky Israelis, which entitles them by international laws to enrich uranium to 20%. Iran, unlike Israel, has not started a war with another country in almost 200 years. They are a people of peace.

As recently as 2006, Israel staged massive air strikes deep into Lebanon, destroying Lebanon's infrastructure and killing over 1000, mostly civilians. Israel dropped over a million cluster bombs on Lebanon, even though they knew hostilities were to end in a few days, proving they lack any sort of humanity. They also used white phosphorus, which contitutes a war crime.

I enjoy your comments RalphH. But I have one little question. What is your Muslim name? But I could be wrong about this. Your real name could be Bubba and your handle "Worshipful Master" in the local KKK.

Actually @Viewer-Ready, you are full of beans. Iran is a country with a great deal of oil and natural gas. But its problem is that it has only enjough refinery capacity to produce about 40% of its "green line" (minimal) needs for refined products. There is virtually nothing that you can do with crude oil. It is virtually worthless until it has been refined into gasoline, diesel, jet fuel, heating and cooking oil, and numerous specific fractions.

The problem with Iran and medical isotopes is that they tend to have very short half-lifes --- often just a few hours or days. This means that their purchanse and transportation are tremendously difficult. Making them is really the only way Iran has of having them.

The Iranian reactor (if it ever starts to run properly) will fill a massive hole in electricity production that has existed for over 20 years. Iran's plans for nuclear sites is well within their current electrical needs and would be a much more responsible method than drilling oil, shipping it, trading it to China for #2 fuel oil, shipping the fuel oil back and then burning it in fossil fuel plants. Even with three more nuclear reactors, Iran will still have electrical shortages.

And as far as Israel striking without US support --- it is a pipe dream. Iran is far away and much larger than Israel. It is about ten times the size in economy and people. And it is not an inconsiderable military power. The Israelis would have to fly over hostile countries on the way --- all of whom, including Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Iraq would tip off the Iranians. The IDF would require two refuelings going in and two more coming out and possibly one more depending on targets. The key targets are so heavily fortified that "bunker buster" bombs would be pretty worthless, even if Israel had a delivery system other than C-130's. I will guarantee you that Israel will not simply drive C-130's over with bunker busters and the Iranians will just stand with their mouths open and watch. They would shoot them down since the targets are all heavily defended. North Korean experts have been assisting the Iranians to harden their key targets and the North Koreans are the world's experts. But anyone who thinks the IDF will just sail over to Iran and blow things up is really stupid.

@Swan37,

It is quite legitimate to ask why the Iranians took over the US Embassy and held the hostages for a long time.

But it is also legitimate to ask why US Embassy personnel were running SAVAK operations out of the Embassy. The SAVAK was one of the most brutal and repressive secret services in the world, imprisoning, torturing, and killing thousands of Iranians a year. Trained by the Mossad and then run by the CIA until the revolution and then handed back to the Mossad who are still running it.

And it is also legitimate to ask what Presidential candidate made a backdoor deal with the Iranians to sell them aircraft, jet fighter, and missile parts and missile upgrades in return for holding the hostages until after election day. And he used the money from that deal to fund the Contras to buy cocaine and sell it in the USA to raise money to fight the Sandanistas. I believe that was Reagan and it was called the Iran-Contra Affair.

Yep, it is quite legitimate to ask questions.

Iran's religious leaders will lead the entire country into collapse.

Russia and China will protest, but will not be stupid enough to get involved.

When it's all over, they will still get their oil.

Only this time it will be sold to them by Israel, BP or Exxon.

@EBrown,

Is English a second language? Or should I call it Hebrish? None of that makes any sense at all.

Jongleur, a nuclear Iran isn't just an existential threat to Israel. What would become of the US if a suitacse bomb were to go off in NYC? or DC? Are some people really this oblivious?

Most of nuclear reactor only use 5% grade to power them. In order to make nuclear weapon, it would require a weapon grade of 95% I think.

It is more difficult than you may think, that is why it takes long time to make them.

The biggest issue and one that seemed to not get mentioned here is what happens if Iran moves just to the red line of Israel but not over. They could sit indefinitely like that to Israel and the U.S.'s ire. With that scenario, it wouldn't take much to provoke an attack that would have dubious legitimacy to it to make for a second Iraq, where allies are pushed into a conflict that would drag on with no direct visible goals.

And the question that should be asked but isn't is 'OK Iran crosses the thresh hold and Israel attacks. What then? would the conflict be limited to destroying just the stockpile of weapons grade material? Would it be aimed at regime change? What other countries would be involved in it?, Would there be negative repercussions to the Palestinians who, due to their anti Israel stance be seen as a threat and preemptively suppressed before an invasion?'

At the end of the day, the use of force against Iran would be a hugely complex matter for the region. And while I see the point of threats towards trying to secure Israel's security, diplomacy really is the only viable option. However, without the promise of better relations and lifting of sanctions on Iran, it looks like both sides will bluff all the way up to the end when it will be too late. Which would be just another of Obama's many diplomatic failures. Probably the worse President when it comes to foreign policy we have ever had. I am sure some might say Bush2 was the worse but considering he was able to strengthen ties with China, plus pull a strong coalition together against Iraq despite the clear illegitimacy of it, is pretty impressive.

Excellent comment and very intelligent.

Iran with Nukes makes sense to Iran and it's friends ie. Russia ,China, etc. Common sense should tell us, however, that more nations with nuclear weapons raises the threat level of a nuclear war sometime in the future. The low information liberals commenting here are oblivious to the actual danger because they live in virtual reality and even their government checks are sent electronically.

The timeline is pretty close to this:

At 5% uranium enrichment, you can marginally power a nuclear reactor of certain older types. Most use 15-18% and around 4-5% is lost in the actual manufacture of the fuel rods. So 20% enrichment is about richt to yield 15% fuel rods for their German/Russian/American hybrid reactor (if they ever get it working.)

The technology to enrich uranium from .0002% (yellowcake) to 20% is really tough because you are juggling several processes to remove impurities while concentrating the uranium. The enrichment from 20% to 80% or so is much easier. They it gets harder to go from 80% to 95%+. It looks like Iran has gotten to 20%, so going to around 80% is a gimme. But so far it looks like they have not done so.

So why is Iran hanging back and stopping at 20%? Perhaps because that is the limit imposed by the IAEA and the NPT?

More troubling is that Iran is now operating a plutonium extraction plant. This plant gives Iran a second completely separate pathway to a bomb using plutonium instread of uranium. But I guess no one wants to talk about that? That is their Plan B.

And Iran actually has a Plan C which involves obtaining weapons grade uranium from Pakistan. And a Plan D that involves getting weaponbs grade plutonium from North Korea.

Complicated isn't it?

Youn must be retarded if you believe this crap.

Obama also want retard people everywhere so he can easily control people, he wants a country with lots of nuts who believe in religions and do not question anything.

Oh wait, I got it mix up.

Yeah or they all know that our attack was at Israel's request and we get a big war anyway.

@Fight for Israeli Freedom: Stay off the drugs...just SAY NO ! A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

fff - You are obviously a nutcase, much like the leadership of Israel. Read here:

Preeminent Israeli historian, Martin van Creveld, in 2010 said Israel could
find itself one day forced to exterminate the European continent using all
kinds of weapons including its nuclear arsenal if it felt its demise neared,”
and stressed that “Israel also considers Europe a hostile target.”

“We have hundreds of nuclear warheads and
missiles that can reach different targets in the heart of the European
continent, including beyond the borders of Rome, the Italian capital,” Creveld
said, adding that most of the European capitals would become preferred targets
for the Israeli air force.

He reiterated “Israel’s ability to destroy the
whole world whenever it felt its existence would be doomed to extinction.”

Van Creveld has close ties with the Israeli military.

These are the people who say Iran is led by unstable people and we support this kind of thinking It is hard to believe.

Thanks for the Anti-Semitic screed RalphH. Now for your recommended "Protocols of the Eders of Zion."

I would suggest "5 Broken Cameras" for you Johnny and then off to bed before Mom and Dad get home.

Can't argue with that!

The Obama camp is out in force calling anyone who dares to criticise their little demigod a retard druggie or a nutcase.Yes sir they have really shown their loyalty for this wolf in sheep's clothing. To vote for the man once given the experience under Bush Jr might be understandable but to vote him in a second time because people could only fathom a two party system is the real stupid insanity that has infected Americas drugged out culture.

Personal attacks on posters is prohibited on the vine. You don't have to agree but you do not have the right to abuse other posters by calling them druggies retards or nutcases.

Dr. MS What do you think really happened in Libya? Obama gave orders to send Libyan weapons to Syria and it backfired on him. He threw Hilary under the bus and let her take the rap. Obama is a devious dog who portrays himself a man of peace. Bush was a war mongrel too. I am under no illusions about either party but you obviously are. With regards to Israeli citizens siding with Muslims over Palestine they are few and they are motivated by fear. The problem is nothing short of the elimination of Israel and all Jews and Christians from what they consider their lands will satisfy them. Then the Muslims will turn on each other Oh wait they are already turning on each other.

Where do you live "fight for freedom"? Who do you work for? I am amazed that you call the President of the US, a democracy (though not perfect), "a devious dog". That is a strong language! You are welcome to criticize and object...but that kind of language shows disrespect and hatred. You need to show more respect and class in your communication...and argue intelligently. This kind of name calling only weakens your position.

I guess you don't follow my threads. You see what you want to see...because you appear highly emotional (being emotional and being feeling centered are two different things). I have been critical of the Democratic party too. I have criticized Ms Clinton's position on certain issues too. But I am not disrespectful or unfair.

If you don't like the way certain policies are going argue intelligently and politely. Some of you cannot get your Republican representatives to work on the sequestration...but you all talk, rant, rave and criticize about global issues that are complicated.

Talking about Palestinian rights, improving Iran-US relationship, dealing with Israel-Iran dispute, dealing with Iran's nuclear program, complexities around Middle East oil and dealing with Saudi power in the region...are all separate issues with some links. You all seem to jump from issue to issue.

Do not use foul language...it weakens your argument! I do not want to reject your involvement in these discussions...but stop the disrespect and don't just point to one guy.

Best wishes,

Dr. MS

Wow fight you got a one sided mentality. Lets face facts here neither side will settle in Israel short of the other side gone. As for your Libya Syria rant do you even have any idea what you mean happened?

Dr. MS no I do not follow your threads and your thinking I should shows you obvious arrogance.. I do not respect a devious killer (dog) be it Obama or Bush Jr. I do not respect those who use the American people in such despicable ways. Research it for yourself about Syria and Libya I have not ranted and the cover up is obvious. Your complexities of the ME is an obvious tactic to keep western analysis trying to understand the Islamic mindset. It is not difficult to understand. It is about power and dominance and no matter who is doing the murdering it is wrong. The ME is lost we can not save them. Mark my words Obama wants an all out war and he will get it before he leaves office.

Back to class alkintuc. Smoke break at alternative school is no time to play on the teachers computer. Whether or not Iran has a bomb is knowlege so far above your pay grade that you'll never get there even if you we're reincarnated for a thousand lifetimes.

Spoken well JohnCarter. Keep spinning those Anti-Semitic KKK talking points. But watch out or the Jews in your closet will get you!

Good point jrtaylor. But think about if from another point of view. Grinding all that plutonium into an aersol powder would provide tens of thousands of jobs to unemployed Iranians and then tens of thousands of clean up jobs for the unemployed in countries where it was sprayed. You might even be lucky enough lol to get off of the unemployment roles.

Fascism? Iran has stated repeatedly they intend to completely destroy Israel. The Muslims murder their daughters, bury them alive, strap bombs on their children to kill children. Who are the fascists? Israel has to fence off the Rabid Palestinians that chose Hamas as their leaders. Hamas kills their own people that are not hateful enough. Who are the fascists?

Roglio - Your post is am lie. Please cite some of the threats.

I have read many threats from Israel to attack Iran.

Isn't it marvellous what freedom of speech can do Rogelio? Dissentients like RalphH and Better Careful can spin their propaganda and be immediately and accurately identified as Jew haters and Anti-Semites.

Anti-Semites hate BOTH Arabs and Jews. Sorry @Johnny, a FAIL!

Iran is the country that has stated repeatedly they intend to detroy Israel. "Wipe Israel off the Map". Where do you get your twisted ideology, the Liberal Media Propagandists? You don't do a lot of thinking for yourself huh?

Israeli is destroying the HOLY LAND, trying to kick out the Christian, same difference! JEWISH BS is Israeli!

Nice try Decimus Mabus. Your English is a little rusty but we get the message. But better if you write in your native Arabic where you could better explain the fine points of your argument and unwind your Anti-Semitism in a more receptive forum.

Btb - Youy said everyone knows. Well you are wrong. Our intelligence agencies have concluded that Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program. The UN just reduced some sanctions, so they must feel comfortable with Iran's truthfulness. I know I am.

The biggest liars on the planet come from Israel. Here is one of the lies.

'1992:'Israeli parliamentarian Benjamin Netanyahu tells his
colleagues that Iran is 3 to 5 years from being able to produce a nuclear
weapon – and that the threat had to be "uprooted by an international front
headed by the US"'.

Nutanyahoo is still at it, pushing false propaganda, hoping to persuade ignorant people that there is a threat from Iran. There is no threat. Israel is the real threat to world peace. Just read all the calls from Zionists on these forums to nuke Iran.

Israel is the real threat to world peace? Do you actually believe that Ralph?Then world peace is guaranteed because the evil Jewish bankers you greatly fear have no reason to blow up the world because, as you Anti-Semites know, they already own everything and you're already their slave. The threat to world peace would then logically have to come from your side.

Israel = Bully Child playing with USA funded matches.

The Iraq war was planned and sold by Zionists, led by Paul wolfowitz, the acknowleged architect of the was, so don't give us any more of that crap. The Mossad also provided much of the false intelligence . Read here:

JERUSALEM (AP)
— Israeli intelligence overplayed the threat posed by Iraq and reinforced the
U.S. and British assessment that Saddam Hussein had large amounts of weapons of
mass destruction, a retired Israeli general said Thursday.

The Israeli assessment may have been colored by politics, including a desire to see
the Iraqi leader toppled, said Shlomo Brom, who was a senior Israeli military
intelligence officer and is now a researcher with Israel's top strategic think
tank.

Brom stopped short of accusing Israeli intelligence officials of intentionally
misleading Britain and the United States.

His assertions could, however, undermine the reputation of the Israeli intelligence
service, one of the most respected in the world.

Brom said the Israeli assessment may have been influenced by politics. "Israel
has no reason to regret the outcome of the war in Iraq," he wrote, noting
Saddam was an implacable enemy.

Brom ended his 25-year military career in 1998. Career officers in Israel
traditionally maintain close ties with military colleagues after their
retirement.

You were saying?

Not so smart EffortPA. The best laid plans of mice and men often go astray. The warped fantasies of Anti-semites like you are even less predictable. Take Hitler's dream of a 1000 year reich for example. Where did that end up. Your dreams of peace through war don't have the chance of the proverbial snowball in hades Even in Disneyland it would be a lol fools fantasy.