A view from Tehran's street: Hugo Chavez a friend

Abedin Taherkenareh / EPA file

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (L) and Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez during a ceremony marking the start of a two-day visit in Tehran, in a file photo dated April 2, 2009.

TEHRAN, Iran — The day after the death of Venezuela's Hugo Chavez, two men chatted in a barbershop halfway around the world.

"Did you hear (President Mahmoud) Ahmadinejad's friend died?" one asked as he sat in the basement of what was once Tehran's Hilton Hotel on Wednesday.

"Who?" exclaimed the second.

"Hugo Chavez."

"Ah, yes, I heard he died last week, they are just telling people now."


It is not uncommon to hear conspiracy theories in Iran, so it wasn’t exactly surprising that one would come up so early in this particular conversation. Also unsurprising is the conversation itself — here people from all walks of life and all ages constantly discuss politics, their own and others'.

The two men in the barbershop — which offers hot face towels, neck and shoulder massages and shaves went on to talk about Chavez's merits and flaws as if they were host and guest on a political chat show.

They came to the conclusion that Chavez was a bon viveur and that his people ultimately liked him. They made some comparisons between Iran and Venezuela, two oil-rich states that have been alienated by the West.

Too soon, the chat show came to an end.

As the discussion revealed, Chavez was a close friend of Iran — they shared a common antagonism toward the United States. Indeed, Chavez could not have found a better ally than Ahmadinejad, whose government declared a day of mourning after the death was announced.

Ahmadinejad also seemed to put Chavez in the ranks of holy figures, saying he would "return on resurrection day."

"I have no doubt Chavez will return to Earth together with Jesus and the perfect" Imam Mahdi, the most revered figure of Shiite's Muslims, and help "establish peace, justice and kindness" in the world, Ahmadinejad added.

Over the years, Ahmadinejad and Chavez showed what appeared to be genuine warmth for each other. They lavished praise on one another and chastised America. They called "Imperial America" a global threat and demanded a new world order.

Chavez supported Iran’s nuclear program, which Iran says is for civilian purposes, despite international concern. They also both courted controversy and enjoyed the support of their respective working classes.

Iran has sent it deepest condolences to Venezuela and will probably have a high ranking member of the government if not President Ahmadinejad attend the state funeral.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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LOL..He died last week..he died over ten years ago mind wise!

  • 4 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 6:59 PM EST

One whack job honoring another.

  • 6 votes
#1.1 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 7:30 PM EST

It always amazes me how peoples hate ... can be manipulated about someone they have never met or known; that have achieved leadership positions that these two men have achieved .... they gotta have something ...

Hugo Chavez was loved by the common people across his whole nation ... he didn't need our love or our respect ..he did good things for his people ... he deserves the respect & love he got from them...

I respect Hugo Chavez... R.I.P ...

  • 7 votes
#1.2 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 7:47 PM EST

"he will rise again" as what the ANTICHRIST !

people to watch out for :

Fidel castro

sean penn

oliver stone

ahmadinejad

danny glover

all dictator loving whack jobs !

moonbeamracer:

His people didn't love him they were terrified of him, if "his" people didn't support what he believed in , he sent his "red hats" secret police to torture family members or make them disappear ! ALL dictators rule by fear and if you dont know that you need a history lesson !

  • 6 votes
#1.3 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 7:47 PM EST

As a matter of information for Chavez lovers, he was worth $2 billion at his death. Was that his salary in Venezuela? ahmadinejad has leaned a lot from chavez in how to steal working people's money.

  • 5 votes
#1.4 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 8:12 PM EST

All these nazis need to go back to stormfront.

  • 1 vote
#1.5 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 10:44 PM EST

"Chavez could not have found a better ally than Ahmadinejad, whose government declared a day of mourning after the death was announced."

This is certainly an improvement for those who chain themselves, slash themselves and are experts in inventing enemies.

What sort of brave these Shiites mullahs/clerics and their cronies, who can't rescue Assad against tin pot oil rich Sunni rulers led by House of Saud, Qatar, and other Sunni Arab League nations and their proxies like Sunni killers like al Qaida, MB, Salaffi and others?

These tenth century desert mindset Shiites should forget about US and Israel for now.

Instead, they should worry about having a Shiite ruler in Bahrain, saving Shiites from Sunni onslaughts in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and other places.

    #1.6 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 6:02 AM EST

    You just can't make this stuff up! Adickajab & Chavez are responsible for the killing millions of people & like a good lap dog NBC keeps telling how good these Dictators are. These 2 murders hate the Citizens of the U.S.A., except maybe a few Dems. wake up!

    • 2 votes
    #1.7 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 7:15 AM EST

    The Iranian dictator was a good partner with Chavez, Chavez help him to go around their sanctions and Tehran give them nuclear thechnology . Chavez and his Iranian counterpart signed more than 280 agreements, many of them to promote the advance of Radical Muslim ideology in South America though Venezuela airwaves. Our foreign policies toward South America are making this country more voulnerable since this administration is not giving the importance to our partners in the South.

    Tehran - Venezuelan Ambassador to Tehran David Valesquez Caraballo has said that Tehran and Caracas have so far signed 280 agreements. Talking to IRNA on the threshold of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's visit to his country, he added that over 80 joint projects in the areas of energy, industry and agriculture have become operational between the two states.

    On Iran's peaceful nuclear program, he reiterated that Caracas supports persuance of nuclear technology for peaceful purposes by the Islamic Republic.

    He further noted that the Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) and the Venezuelan news agency are to boost bilateral news cooperation, expressing hope that IRNA would open an office in Caracas soon.

    There is not small enemy.

    • 2 votes
    #1.8 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 9:04 AM EST

    ahmadinejad lost a friend, but I believe Iran will retain it's bases with the next Venezuelan dictator, specially hezbollah terrorist training bases.

    • 1 vote
    #1.9 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 1:13 PM EST
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    Why do we hate him so?

    • 5 votes
    Reply#2 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 7:25 PM EST

    I think it was when he spent nearly three years (2003-06) demanding that George W had it in for him and the US was trying to kill him...Before that, I'd never heard of him.

    I guess if you spend most of your time and your country's money trying to make an imaginary situation into some sort of publicity stunt to gain the sympathy of your people, you might get some people to dislike you. Doncha think? Not that I blame him for disliking George W.

      #2.1 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 11:23 AM EST

      Military Man-1740371 - I think it was when he spent nearly three years (2003-06) demanding that George W had it in for him and the US was trying to kill him...Before that, I'd never heard of him.

      I can't imagine why that would be, given the fact that the Bush administration supported the 2002 coup against Chavez. If the US didn't orchestrate the coup it was most certainly directly involved and aware of the plot, as well as supportive of it. We had even parked a US Navy ship next to the island where the coup leaders were holding Chavez, apparently to prevent rescue attempts.

      Not only were US diplomats caught at the airport smuggling guns into the country, but the Bush administration was the ONLY government to recognize the coup leaders as being the new government of Venezuela......and they did that just a few hours after the coup.

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/apr/29/venezuela.duncancampbell

      http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/South_America/US_Coup_Venezuela.html

      • 2 votes
      #2.2 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 12:33 PM EST

      Oh well, just one more feather for the Bush legacy...

        #2.3 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 12:52 PM EST
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        These two are so Forrest Gump. Stupid is as stupid does folks.

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        Reply#3 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 7:36 PM EST

        However, we have to respect Muslim Imams/mullahs.

        ""I have no doubt Chavez will return to Earth together with Jesus and the perfect" Imam Mahdi, the most revered figure of Shiite's Muslims, and help "establish peace, justice and kindness" in the world, Ahmadinejad added."

        Here this great Muslim Imam is agreeing that Islam is going to be finished!

        He is accepting what his Allah has predicted.

          #3.1 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 6:11 AM EST
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          I wonder if Imadumbknob, Yugo Haves, and Kim Not Hung ever had a chance to have a circle jerk....what a great pairing that would have been. On has balls that he thinks are bigger than the world, another has no balls whatsoever yet admires aforementioned so much he carried a permanent woody. The other, well, is just the biggest pr!@% in the world.......

          • 2 votes
          Reply#4 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 7:38 PM EST

          Who edited this article? In Today...under some woman who loves Red or Yellow label tea? It is poorly written, but I am sure MSNBC, whose focus on Chavez has been mostly his association with Ahmedinijad, as if everything and everybody must only focus on Iran, Israel, Middle East, Republican party and Wall Street in every American news these days....is just following an old pattern - "zaim yhaam zhela khel" (matter of habit).

          If you have such contempt for world leaders who disagree with you, differ from you or digress from what you believe in we will never have global democracy or justice. Look who I am talking to!

          Why don't you report on what many leaders, other than Ahmedinijad, have said about Chavez? Stop being so contemptuous, condescending and disrespectful. You write like a fifth grader and you have such arrogance. There are Venezuelans, Iranians and Israelites who speak and write better English then you Ali.

          First improve your English, second improve your thinking, third improve your analytical abilities and then improve your reporting.

          For now...don't write anything!

          • 3 votes
          Reply#5 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 7:42 PM EST

          Above all, many like you need to learn to respect others’ thinking, beliefs, and practices.

          Then you people should lecture your own people instead of writing on what others think and write.

          If a video on Mohammed could lead to worldwide riots and killings, then those don’t deserve any respect.

          They don’t know how to tolerate dissents.

          You are showing up your intolerance in your post.

          "Ahmadinejad and Chavez showed what appeared to be genuine warmth for each other. They lavished praise on one another and chastised America. They called "Imperial America" a global threat and demanded a new world order."

          We have been very restrained in commenting on those who hate us.

          Who told you: one should not abuse one back when some cross limits? At leasts, we are not killing each other as Shiites and Sunnis are doing.

          If you can't tolerate the realities, better not post your garbage.

          • 2 votes
          #5.1 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 6:42 AM EST
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          ahmadinejad also saw a halo around his own head while speaking at the UN. I think both ahmadinejad and chavez will join in hell, followed by the rest of the world dictators.

          • 3 votes
          Reply#6 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 8:25 PM EST

          Closely followed by Kim Jong Un, in a few years.

            #6.1 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 12:27 PM EST

            Hell is for children. According to Pat Benetar. I think Hell is for mental infants who can't grasp that the ideas of Heaven, Hell, and virgin births are no more serious than Scientologists and/or Greek Mythology.

              #6.2 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 7:35 PM EST
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              Iran can't find friends or respect among fellow Muslims. They intervene in political/sectarian wars to prop up their beleagureured dictator buddies. And they find ironic friends among the inferior infidel communist and populist dictators.

              Iran doesn't see the glaring duplicity of their Islamic doctrine that condemns Chavez to a fiery hell for being an unbeliever. Iran just needs a friend.

              • 3 votes
              Reply#7 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 5:06 AM EST

              What i can't understand is why these Hollywood types love people like this. Unbelievable.

              • 3 votes
              Reply#8 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 6:32 AM EST

              People who work in the arts tend to be more liberal than the average person, but I think it's more complicated than that. The usual supsects among celebrities with the most radical views almost to a person have little to no post-secondary education (assuming they even finished high school), and their peer group consists of like-minded individuals. This is a cocktail for harboring bizarre opinions. Ultimately, they are irrelevant.

              More perplexing to me is the fact that many of our top universities are home to academics who are equally radical. We've now had nearly 100 years of case studies on multiple continents clearly demonstrating communism doesn't work (at its best it is stagnant and ineffective; at its worst it is oppressive or even genocidal), and we have liberal arts professors who drone on about how this is in every case the fault of the CIA, "imperialism," the US military, multinational corporations, or bad indivduals like Stalin or Pol Pot. To me, this goes beyond rational ideological disagreement into the realm of a mental disorder.

              Please note what I have NOT said, that the CIA has never meddled in the internal affairs of countries enduring left/right struggles, that capitalism always has worked well, that developing countries' resources have never been extracted unfairly by more powerful countries and/or their corporations, or that countries practicing free market economics have never been ruled by brutal dictators. What I am saying is that the failure of communism worldwide cannot be explained away by instances of the above. Marx was wrong. In Venezuela's example, Chavez's model of oil revenue subsidizing cash for the poor/votes has an expiration date, as the economic indicators clearly demonstrate.

              • 1 vote
              #8.1 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 4:09 PM EST
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              But for popularizing oil, Iranians will be riding tenth century camels and their Ayotollahs and Mohammed Ahmedjani will be riding tenth century asses!

              Venezuela will be a bit better as they don't have the Islamic donkey behind their back!

              • 2 votes
              Reply#9 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 6:45 AM EST

              Iran had a few interests with Venezuala..chavez was a tyrant, bully, his people were cheated from honest Elections, He did use some oil revenue for poor but screwed them as well..dependent on handouts while he lavished a rich lifestyle as his wealth showed..hmmm (other world leaders( dictators ) who did the same and are in the grave..Chavez offered Iran Oil at a time when the rest of the world has embargos on Iran, Chavez wanted Europe, and middle eastern Countries to stop using the American Dollar..apart from wishing to bankrupt America, he also saw his own Country's economy sinking , unemployment, food shortages, and it is regardless of oil wealth..so the few here who admire Hugo..just which Country are you more proud of...America? or a Dictator who still wanted this Country to fail miserably besides having a recent love fest for Obama..believe me..This World is a much better place with Chavez gone. I really hope Venezualians get a well deserved President who treats his or her people so much better and does so with honest Elections instead of thuggery and threats of jail, bans on radio and tv stations as Chavez has done.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#10 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 7:01 AM EST

              Wow Bill, if Chavez was as bad as you claim, why is there such an outpouring of grief from the masses. Chavez was providing free home heating oil to the poor in Massachusetts. Wow, what a bad guy.

              I see all the Zionist trolls are here to further demonize Iran, while N Korea makes actual threats of a nuclear war. The Zionists only seem to be concerned with Iran's non existent nuclear weapons program, while they totally ignore the threats from n Korea.

              Romney said the number one threat to the world was Iran. Iran doesn't even possess 1 gram of the 97% enriched uranium it would take to build a nuclear weapon. Meanwhile N Korea sits with nuclear weapons at the ready and there is nary a peep from Republicans or the Zionists on these forums about attacking N Korea.

              The Zionist clowns on these forums often say that their concerns about Iran include, the Iranian threat to America, but when an actual threat is made from a different county, "silence".

              Will our great ally, Israel, will join with us to confront the N korean threat? I think not.

              • 1 vote
              #10.1 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 10:35 AM EST

              Ralph,

              If you don't realize what you are missing, how can you make a judgement of how bad you have it?

              A large portion of the Venezualen population lives in abject poverty, but Chavez handed out table scraps and made large fan fair about how generous he is. His people don't know better...

              • 1 vote
              #10.2 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 12:51 PM EST

              Iran's theocratic dictators have same filth in common - screwing the people and pocketing the nation's wealth. ralph is here - as expected -t defend the Iranian corruption who closely identified with corrupt chavez, who died with $2 billion in his bank account. Iranian dictators will follow chavez to hell.

              • 1 vote
              #10.3 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 1:20 PM EST

              Chavez lowered the poverty rate from 48.6% to 27.6% from 2002 to 2008. During his time, he also lowered the extreme poverty rate to 9%. People on this thread would support the "government" here while it was kiling them with "drones". The threaders here were supporting Bush when he was LYING and plotting a Crime Against Peace, where hundreds of thousands were displaced, maimed, killed, etc., and their infrastruture destroyed. Before this Crime, only less than 50% were in favor of going into a war, and tens of thousands protested on the streets knowing or stongly suspecting it was being based on lies, this crime coming against Iraq. After the brutal bombing, disgustingly and pukingly appararent on tv, 85% evidently were behind it, and then later "woke" up, and "decried" it.

              The "government" here supported Iraq and "brutal" dictator S. Hussein in his Crime Against Peace against Iran in the 80's, where 1,000,000 people were killed and wmds were used, poisonous gas, against the Iranians. Later, the "government" wanted to kill the person, and started the above Crime Against Peace.

              Vietnam was based on lies, and 2,000,000 Vietnamese died. Agent Orange was used along with fire bombing whole areas.

              Yet some yahoos get on here with no facts to back it up and say things like Chavez and Ahmadinejad killed "millions". What a false presentation of nothingness. Chavez was right, the devil had been at the U.N., and it smelled like sulfur. He at least wanted to help the people, and they show their support accordingly. The xenophobia on this website is driven by loony extremists who keep spouting the same lies. They would have been great Nazis, just follow the "government" and do what it says, support it blindly and wholly.

              Some of us see through this bs propaganda, senseless killing and raiding of other countries, lies, use of terrorist "drones", which if they become widespread worldwide will turn living into a more dicey proposition than it is now everywhere on earth.

              Meanwhile, the "government" supports a religiously fascist policy built on sand, and says it will cut SS and Medicare, to "balance" things, while many "government" bureaucrats get free medical, dental, eye, etc., beaucoup paid time off, criminal pensions, especially in some states, early retirement, e.g., 55 or younger. The "capitalist" people, outside the "government" who work to get an average of $1,200.00 a month on SS have to retire at 67 or later, or work always. The people driving around in Rv's, or some anyway, can afford expensive ones and still travel to Europe for weeks at a time. In one Southern California city, there are hundreds of city retirees making $100,000+ a year, some school administrators at up to $281,000 a year. These people retire at figures $20,000 to $30,000 a month, some of them, $281,000 makes a retirement of f$23,000.00+ a month, plus free medical care. One group of water district people got lackeys to give free medical care for their spouses for life. Meanwhile, they know that people on Medicare who paid into it all their lives, could probably end up spending another hundred or hundreds of thousands of dollars, if they can find it somewhere, for more medical, not counting premiums, and the bureaucrats get free medical care at the expense of the very people who don't have it themselves, and then the "government" wants to cut that!

              And then all the "fascists" on this website are promoting more death Crimes, more killing, etc., and calling themselves the "good guys", what a joke.

              • 1 vote
              #10.4 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:06 PM EST

              Exactly right, stopbs.

              Also note that the Carter Center and other independent election observers have found that the Venezuelan elections during the Chavez era were the cleanest in the world - far superior to those in the US.

              http://truth-out.org/news/item/12074-independent-observers-venezuelas-election-a-model-of-democracy

              http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/03/why-us-dcemonises-venezuelas-democracy


              • 1 vote
              #10.5 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 5:13 PM EST

              I don't know much about life in Venezuela (never cared much to be honest), but I happen to believe that a lot can be said about a man from what company he keeps, and in that department Chavez did not look good.

                #10.6 - Fri Mar 8, 2013 12:08 AM EST
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                Funny how Islamo-fascists, dictators like chave and Ahmadenijad, Hollywood celebs and American Progressives all share a hatred of America

                • 3 votes
                Reply#11 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 7:33 AM EST

                The list of nations hated are long.

                Of course, it starts from America!!!

                  #11.1 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 8:05 AM EST
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                  Two third world nations lead by two morons.

                    Reply#12 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 8:37 AM EST

                    Yyyaaawwwwwwnnnnnn.............................

                      Reply#13 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 10:25 AM EST

                      Well, it's safe to say, Mr Amhadinijad and Chavez definately had plenty in common. They are/were both too big for their britches, they both are/were extremely envious of the US, and they both are/were nutbags. Add Kim Jong Un to the mix and we have "Two nuts and a Michilin boy".

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#14 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 12:33 PM EST

                      Liberals will support any enemy of the U.S.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#15 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 12:51 PM EST

                      including radical islamists like ralph.

                      • 1 vote
                      #15.1 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 1:23 PM EST

                      You don't have to be "liberal", it's not that - you have to have reasoning ability. There are many people who are conservative, not fascist, who are against this type of criminal action. The U.S. doesn't need to follow other countries in history who fell apart, but it's trying.

                      • 1 vote
                      #15.2 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:13 PM EST

                      stopbs - I don't often agree with your views, but here you are absolutely correct.

                        #15.3 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 4:46 PM EST
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                        Of course, Despots, Despot-Wanna-Bes, Marxist, Islamists and haters of Individual Freedoms and Limited Government all mourn and admire Chavez. As for those who cherish Individual freedoms and limited Government including those within Iran and Venezuela, we all know Chavez for the Despot he was.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#16 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 1:35 PM EST

                        People in the rest of the world don't necessarily agree with your "analysis"; saying that, there is obvious room for improvement in all "governments".

                        • 1 vote
                        #16.1 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:14 PM EST
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                        I look at the associated picture and think: "Two for the price of one"

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