First question for new popes: 'By which name do you wish to be called?'

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Left, Pope Benedict XVI blesses the faithful for the last time. Right, his namesake Pope Benedict XV, circa 1915.

The first clue about what kind of leader the next pope will be — liberal or conservative, reformer or by-the-book — will come only minutes after the smoke clears at the Sistine Chapel.

From a balcony at St. Peter’s Basilica, the world will learn not just who has been elected but what he chooses to call himself, a decision steeped in centuries of church history — and a good indicator of the new pope’s vision and inspiration.

Until the sixth century, popes went by their given names. There was a Pope Sylvester, a Pope Julius and a Pope Victor. Then, in 533, a priest named Mercurius was elected to lead the church and decided that a pope named after a pagan god  — "Mercury" — just wouldn’t do.


He chose to go by John II. Since then, most popes have abandoned their birth names and adopted tributes to saints, popes and even relatives who have gone before.

“You’re trying to pick up some of the glow of your predecessor,” said the Rev. Thomas Reese, Vatican analyst for the National Catholic Reporter.

It is a solemn decision. Newly-elected popes are asked only two questions by the senior cardinal inside the chapel. The first is whether he wants the job. The second: “By which name do you wish to be called?”

The 115 cardinals were back behind closed doors this morning for two more unsuccessful secret votes to select who among them will be the new leader of the Catholic church. NBC's Lester Holt and Keir Simmons report.

When Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was elected pope, in 2005, he chose Benedict XVI as a tribute to two men. One was the previous Pope Benedict, who guided the church through World War I. But Benedict XVI said that he also meant the choice as homage to St. Benedict, an intellectual like Ratzinger and one of the patron saints of Europe, for his “powerful call to the irrefutable Christian roots of European culture and civilization.”

In particular, Benedict XVI prayed to his saintly namesake to help Catholics keep Christ at the center of their lives.

“Benedict saw Europe as the key problem and the place where we really needed to focus,” Reese said.

But the choice is not always a nod to papal history. The reformer Pope John XXIII, elected in 1958, said he picked the name it part because it was the name of the small parish church where he was baptized. John is by far the most popular name for a pope to choose, making it  difficult to predict what a John XXIV would be signaling by taking the name.

In 1978, Cardinal Albino Luciani declared himself Pope John Paul I, the first pope to choose a double name — and the first to declare himself “the First.”

On purpose and by chance, Americans join crowd in St. Peter's Square to watch for signs of a newly elected Pope.

He said that he meant the name as a tribute to his two immediate predecessors, John XXIII and Paul VI. They had led the church through the Second Vatican Council, which modernized the church’s relationships with the rest of the world and other branches of Christianity.

When John Paul I died just 33 days later, he was remembered so adoringly that Reese recalls making a bet with a colleague that the next pope would take the same double name.

“He just caught everybody’s imagination,” Reese said. “This smiling pope. It was just a whole month of very positive response to him.”

He won the bet, and Pope John Paul II led the church for the next 27 years.

This time around, only one bet would be a sure loser. No pope has chosen to be called Peter II. There’s no rule against it, but it is seen as poor form — an honor reserved for the first pope.

Church analysts say there are several names to watch for as hints to the new papacy.

The choice of Leo XIV could be a call for social justice, said Matthew Bunson, senior correspondent for the Catholic publishing nonprofit Our Sunday Visitor. Leo XIII, who served at the turn of the 20th century, and sought to help the world understand the dignity of workers.

Choosing Pius XIII, on the other hand, would be a more conservative choice, and a “statement of determination to defend the teachings of the faith,” Bunson said. Pius V led in opposition to the Protestant Reformation, and Pius VI and VII both died prisoners.

One-third of Americans who grew up in the Catholic Church have left, but the percentage of U.S. Catholics has held steady at 25 percent, largely because of Hispanic immigrants. NBC's Lester Holt reports.

John Paul III, even if only as a tribute to the beloved, globetrotting John Paul II, might be seen by the world as a repudiation of Benedict, Reese said.

Of course, the new pope could always choose to be called Benedict XVII — certainly a possibility because Benedict XVI appointed most of the cardinals who will choose his successor. But such a selection might disappoint Catholics who are hoping for a reformer after a papacy marked by a sexual abuse scandal, other missteps and shrinking membership in the United States and Europe.

Beyond that, it’s anyone’s guess. The new pope could choose to make his mark and choose a name never used before. Reese said he has always wondered why no one has adopted the name Pope Joseph.

Or he could set 1.2 billion Catholics around the world scratching their heads.

“The new guy,” Reese said, “could be John Paul Benedict I.”

Andrew Medichini / AP

Cardinals from around the world gather in the Vatican to elect the next leader of the Roman Catholic Church.

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Bad Bad Leroy Pope

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Reply#27 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:28 PM EDT

Badist pope who does the rope-a-dope

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Reply#28 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:29 PM EDT

Pope Chester the molester I!!!!!!!!!!!! Or pope Pee Wee the Herman I!!!!!!!! Or Pope Michael The Jackson I

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Reply#29 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:30 PM EDT

Badder than ol' King Kong , meaner than the junkyard dog

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Reply#30 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:31 PM EDT

i want the real god not wanna be

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Reply#31 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:32 PM EDT

Protestant dominate american people's mind has been pouring/propagandizing to hate everything what Catholic doing. It is time for american people to realize how other people see them as...

    Reply#32 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:32 PM EDT

    Protestants and Catholics are all Christians and worship the same God. We all believe in Jesus Christ and the trilogy. No one has been hateful in asking questions or questioning acts within the church. We would be far worse if questions were not asked - if people just forgot. There is no need to put anyone or any thoughts down - discussions and conversations help educate everyone.

      #32.1 - Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:57 AM EDT

      MG--that's TRINITY...not trilogy!!!!!

        #32.2 - Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:01 AM EDT
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        Pope Jesus?

          Reply#33 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:34 PM EDT
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          I said no no no no I dont vote for the pope , I'm tired of waking up on the floor. No thank you please it only makes me sneeze and then I'm only looking for little boys.

            Reply#34 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:35 PM EDT

            The new Pope will call himself Peter II

              Reply#35 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:35 PM EDT

              The rest of us will call him "cranky old fool".

                #35.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:06 PM EDT
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                According to Saint Malachy's prophecy the last Pope will be Peter of Rome. If he knew what he was talking about, this next Pope may be associated with the name Peter in some way, either as Pope Peter II, or perhaps as his birth name. I'm sure the Cardinals know the prophecy, would love to be there to see if they've discussed it at all.

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                Reply#36 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:37 PM EDT

                He will use the name Peter, or have an affiliation with the name Peter, as in Peter the Romanus.

                The next Pope will be announced March 22, 2013.

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                Reply#37 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:37 PM EDT

                That is the prediction of St Malachi, but figure any pope will know of that prophecy, and try to avoid the name, either we, we will find out if it is true. I am not catholic, but will put my bet on a Italian this time.

                  #37.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:42 PM EDT

                  Maybe "Peter Pan", as he's the teller of fairy tales!

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                  #37.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:07 PM EDT
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                  The Pope Formerly Known As Prince

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                  Reply#38 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:43 PM EDT

                  Hey MSNBC, do we need 4 Pope stories on your main page? Total overkill. There is other news today.

                    Reply#39 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:44 PM EDT

                    guess they figure it is important to the billion catholics in the world, hey I am protestant, and I find it interesting...but you are right to a point, other stories out there, this will go on until they pick a new pope

                      #39.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:47 PM EDT

                      Hey, this is NOT MSNBC. Not only can't you read the whole bible, but not even the main page of this website!

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                      #39.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:08 PM EDT
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                      Nick name him Poop a Pope. Or sh--head!

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                      Reply#40 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:45 PM EDT

                      Sicola would be a humorous choice. Maybe Pope Sicola would even drink a Pepsi Cola as a nod to the joke.

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                      Reply#41 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:48 PM EDT

                      Pope Pediphilius I Sort of describes the job in a nut shell. no pun intended.

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                      Reply#42 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:48 PM EDT

                      The ultimate Pope names would be Pope Shirley or Pope Marion. We can only hope and pray....

                      Methinks Pope O'Malley or Pope Dolan have wonderous rings to them. Time for the Italian monopoly to stop, when Italians (and most of Europe) don't even participate in the Church anymore.

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                      Reply#43 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:50 PM EDT

                      POPE AIRE JORDAN.......................................LOL

                        Reply#44 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:51 PM EDT

                        How many choirboys took a 'trip under the quilt'

                        How bout Pope Rump Romper...LOL!!!

                          Reply#45 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:54 PM EDT

                          How about Pope Irrelevant the First?

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                          Reply#46 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:58 PM EDT

                          How do you pass up the chance to be Pope Hilarius II

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                          Reply#47 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:59 PM EDT

                          The methodology for Pope selection is this: the Cardinals meet in the Vatican gymnasium and play dodge ball.

                          I want the new Pope to be named Al.

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                          Reply#48 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:59 PM EDT

                          A Pope Allosaurus I would eat all the pedophiles. No, no! Not eat. Eat them all up. You know, the kind of eating that leads to performing burial rites over the toilet.

                            Reply#49 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:01 PM EDT

                            "pope John P.D.F." (John-Pediphillia-Denieus-Finalis) to keep in check with 'thier' current 'up-grading' with the times!

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                            Reply#50 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:03 PM EDT

                            Head Molester or liar which ever the name would fit the king of child rapers.

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                            Reply#51 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:04 PM EDT
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