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Subscribe to RSSNBC News Vatican analyst George Weigel says Pope Francis is expected to teach the church how to be missionary again.
Although Pope Francis is a Jesuit, he chose his papal name not in honor of St. Francis Xavier, a co-founder of the Society of Jesus, but rather in honor of St. Francis of Assisi. It's a significant choice.
Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York, a member of the 115-member conclave that elected Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio as the 266th pope, told NBC News that the new pope explained his choice of name at the gathering Wednesday.
Vatican watchers said the election of Bergoglio was already a powerful signal of a renewed commitment by the Catholic Church to traditional Catholic theology. And in choosing to highlight Francis of Assisi, Bergoglio was explicitly honoring "a saint that transcends the Catholic Church and is loved by all people, a saint who reached out for simplicity, ... poverty and care for the poor," the Rev. Thomas Rosica, a spokesman for the Vatican, said in an interview with the Canadian Broadcasting Corp (CBC).
Francis (who was born in 1181 or 1182 and died in 1226) founded the Franciscan Order in his hometown, Assisi, in what is now the Italian region of Umbria.
Although he was never even ordained as a priest, Francis is considered one of the church's holiest figures and was canonized by Pope Gregory IX in 1228, only two years after his death, according to the Catholic Encyclopedia, which reflects the Vatican's official view of history.
Reuters
Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Argentina was elected to lead the Roman Catholic Church following the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI.
Among other things, he's credited by the church with creating the first Nativity scene to celebrate Christmas in 1223.
Francis wasn't always so saintly. Born to wealth, he lived a playboy life that included blowing off his studies, according to a biography penned by Thomas of Celano, a friar who was a contemporary of Francis' and one of his first followers.
But in 1205 — as he was on his way to fight one of Assisi's many battles with its rival city of Perugia — Francis had what Thomas and other biographers describe as a vision in which he was told to return home. He did, taking up a life of prayer and solitude. On a subsequent pilgrimage to Rome, he reportedly gave all his money to the city's poor having exchanged his clothes with those of a beggar.
Shortly thereafter, Francis had another vision as he was praying in a rundown chapel in Assisi, in which Jesus commanded him, "Go, Francis, and repair my house, which as you see is falling into ruin."
Taking the command literally, according to Thomas' and other histories, Francis sold his home and his possessions to raise the money to rebuild the city's chapels. He became a street preacher, and by 1209, he and about 11 followers were making the rounds of Umbria's towns as itinerant preachers when Francis traveled to Rome to seek Pope Innocent III's blessing to establish a religious order. Final approval came the following year.
(The official history and admiring biographies of the time tell an entertaining tale of red tape and bureaucratic delays that kept Francis hanging around outside the Vatican for several days trying to get inside to see the pope.)
The order grew rapidly, and within a few years it had expanded into two others: one for women, today known as the Poor Clares, and another for pious laymen and women who choose to live a worldly life.
Followers were drawn by Francis' absolute devotion to living his life in close imitation of Jesus'. The burgeoning order celebrated poverty, so much so that in his "Testament," written shortly before he died, Francis said absolute poverty was his order's defining rule.
U.S. Catholics are praying Pope Francis will be able to repair the church, damaged by scandal, and help usher in an era of credibility that can draw in more young parishioners. NBC's John Yang reports.
In a famous dictum history attributes to him, Francis argued: "You cannot starve a fasting man, you cannot steal from someone who has no money, you cannot ruin someone who hates prestige."
It is that philosophy that Pope Francis adheres to, even though he is not himself a member of the order, said Rosica, the Vatican spokesman.
"Cardinal Bergoglio has spent his life opening his arms to the poor, the destitute," he told the CBC. "Argentina is a beautiful country, but there are great pockets of poverty and injustice, and he was right there in the middle of all of this."
Church scholars predicted that the new pope would bring a sharp focus on ministering to the poor in the manner of St. Francis.
"He has a reputation for simplicity and for being utterly concerned about the poor," the Rev. John Padberg, director of the Institute of Jesuit Sources at Saint Louis University, told NBC station KSDK of St. Louis. "In all of the upheavals in Argentina in previous years, no matter what had happened, that was one of his main concerns."
Juan Martinez, an associate professor of Hispanic studies and pastoral leadership at Fuller Theological Seminary in Pasadena, Calif., said that while Pope Francis might be considered theologically conservative, he'll be "conservative with a human face."
"The reality of living amongst the poor and those who suffered in the majority world gives him a very different perspective from the previous pope," Martinez told NBC 4 of Los Angeles. "It is an experience that is more common among the majority of Catholics."
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【Jordan C. Fan 范楚漳_環境先知之】
Pope Francis Of Argentina Is The Resurrection Of Fraism Worldwide
Author: Jordan C. Fan, Prophet of Environment.
作家: 范楚漳, 環境先知
The installation of this Hispanic Latino Pope Francis of Argentina during Easter, is the Resurrections of Spaniard Generalissimo Francisco Franco's Fracism. This transformation is essential because it will generate enough power and force to fight the American Imperialism and Capitalism which is fast ruining our world. Argentina being an ideal haven made in heaven for Nazi exiles, has long been a Fracist nation. A Catholic priest who would given up his chauffeur to ride a bus, on the other hand, is probably a fake. Now, with the great power of the so call "god" behind those Hispanic and Latino people, they will certainly prevail in defeating the United States! This will also revenge Chavez's assasination. The transformation of a German Pope to a Hispanic Pope is the transformation from Nazism to Fracism. This will set the stage for World War III!
The best pun or Polish joke of the 20th Century, written by Myself:
"I must give thank to the Polish Pope and the comedian "Bulb" Hope who had changed My Puns and let Me see the light"
Today a Canadian scientist took the helm of a beautiful scientific achievement: the space station. Would we have had access to space earlier if the broken tool of faith didn't get in the way of critical thinking and technological progress?
On earth, many people of faith just discovered the results of a secret election. A virgin shaman will now proclaim absolute authority over how women are to have sex. This individual will be said to be humble though his resume now indicates he is infallible.
Let the cognitive dissonance begin!
Hey Prophet;
You must be off your medication!
Sully, Prophet should give you a clue as to why so many of us are demanding gun control~with the emphasis on control.
We have no interest in taking the rifles of sane, honest hunters. Most of us support being armed to protect one's self, home, and family.
We we are demanding is to keep weapons out of the hands of madmen and the genuinely psychotic.
Virgin, maybe--but he ain't no shaman.
I don't get it.
Do you mean fascism? Hate to tell you but nazism is fascism and the United States is the most fascist country on the planet.
Maybe they'll start actually using some of that $170B to take care of the poor, rather than themselves.
Then again, probably not.
I hope the Catholic Church will realize that the display of wealth at the Vaitican is a insult to the poor around the world. I would like to see a more humble church capable of adminstering to the poor in light of today's world.
If the Roman Curia (and this pope) were truly humble, they would lobby to end their tax exemptions around the globe. In a very real way, taking billions from governments in that way continues to hinder scientific progress. Galileo is turning in his grave.
And secondly, how can someone be humble but claim to be infallible? Oxymoron.
When you dissect reality, we have an organization of immense wealth that it protects and claims absolute authority.
And people throw around the humility lable? Perhaps this pope should have been called Pope Orwellian 266th.
Atheist ,
Your name says more than your comment.
Yeah Atheist. The Church's tax exemption is really shooting our country in the foot. Not all the wasted spending we do, or the countless 'experiements' that dont prove anything new that our country traffics in (seriously, saw a study about how and why women are attracted to men...this is really something we need to spend time on?).
How bout we worry about all the other nonsense our Country is doing, before we go pointing the finger at Churches, which in many cases - most cases I believe - are non-profit and NEED donations in order to do what they do. Some churches I'm sure are ridiculous (The West Baptist church comes to mind...) but not all. Isn't that sort of generalized logic what many of you guys claim you hate about religious people anyway?
Hoosgow, you make some fair points in comment #2.3
Tax exemptions for religious faith, however, in a country governed by a secular Constitution is a problem. It is a tradition that needs to fade away. It is unconstitutional imo.
"Tax exemptions for religious faith, however, in a country governed by a secular Constitution is a problem. It is a tradition that needs to fade away. It is unconstitutional imo."
You are just bent out of shape because of the religious aspect and overlook the fact that they are very similar to a NPO and could probably achieve tax exemption through a change in paperwork.
Pasco, I agree 100%. The material wealth amassed by any religion ~ Catholicism is certainly not alone, consider Kenneth Copeland, consider that cult outside Chicago wit (2!) 14'X24' Mitsubishi LED screens ~ is, IMO, blasphemous and a mark they are not following Jesus. They are not feeding the sheep as Jesus said to do. Yes, I know, they yap about feeding the spirit. Well, a hungry body does not want to hear dogma.
Atheist, it is not the Curia, primarily, hindering science. It is off-the-rails Evangelicals whose intent is to force the rest of the world into their mold. One need only review the last presidential and congressional elections see the depths of their ignorance and dependence on fear-mongering.
Tax exmeptions, vow of poverty, the same thing the televangilists, and mega church pastors use, to fly around in private planes, limos, and live in big mansions...all under the guise of doing God's work.
OBBAMMY THE NANNY..
Has NO PROBLEM..
with Display..of "WEALTH"
He just Lets TAXPAYERS..Pick up the TAB..
The COMMANDER-of-CHEESE...$2,000,000.00 VACATION..To HAWAII..Your Dime..on Air Farce 1...
ALOHA-OUCH..!
atheist,
You are in serious need of psychoanalysis for your obsession.
So lets do away with tax exemptions for the other charitable organizations such as Red Cross, March of Dimes, UNICEF, Goodwill the CEOs make hundreds of thousands if not millions per year. Mere pennies make it to the people who need it. I will tithe my church and donate to the Salvation Army myself.
Tax exemptions, I believe, are granted not on churches/religions, per se, but upon the organizations' non-profit status. If you take that away brace for a lot of effects on organizations that do much good in our society - including non-religious ones. If you single out churches among other nonprofits for it not to apply then I believe you violate a few more clauses of the Constitution many of you claim to honor so highly - or at least when it suits your agenda - perhaps including the so-called Equal Protection Clause, Freedom of Religion and a few other of those 'pesky' rights (or entitlements to those of you who don't like them).
"election of Bergoglio was already a powerful signal of a renewed commitment by the Catholic Church to traditional Catholic theology."
1. A religion has to reform with times retaining good things it has. From this angle, this new Pope appears to be a bad news.
2. Permit married priests, instead of the current unmarried ones indulging all sorts sexual misbehaviors. Hope people can remember that many Catholic churches have gone bankrupt due to these unbecoming activities.
3. Tolerate gays and lesbians. Just recall the accusations against some Catholic priests, who give big lectures on these.
4. Have tough accounting of church financial activities including social work/conversion related ones.
5. At least follow ten percent of what one preaches.
Religion doesn't change with the times. It is set in a belief and change is bad. We call change in religion straying from the true path or failing God. People change but God is the same God who made the world.
1 Yeah you cant reform religion in the way your saying, and doing so sort of strips the religion of all of it's meaning and devalues the belief that their faith is historical. Try and think of it like that. The Bible is considered to be a recount of events that actually happened. 'Updating' or altering it would be like the president saying 'Alright, the consitution is out of date. So were re-writing it and changing all your rights around according to the times.' Probably a bad example, but the basic point is that you cant just up and change history, or the way things are, just because their inconvenient for you now. Just dont follow the religion if you dont like it. Dont ask us to change.
2 I never got why Priests cant get married though, since Marriage is a sacred union and honored and celebrated by the church. To me it just makes sense, but then again many regulations the Catholic Church follows are not mandatory but rather, implied because of human desires. Something I honestly dont agree with. Confession, for example, I've never found in the Bible (at least not mandatory like were expected), but yet it's enforced in the Catholic religion.
3 Tolerance is not acceptance, there is a very big difference. I tolerate the loud mouthed, obnoxious, me-me-me co-worker at my job. I dont associate with her, I dont like talking with her, and I would never include her in anything I did solo, but I also dont talk smack about her behind her back or make fun of her. THAT is tolerance. I'm not sure what you yourself mean by tolerance, but every time I hear other people talk about tolerance they actually mean acceptance. Acceptance as in letting them get married in churches, letting them participate in Catholic/Christian ceremonies and become priests or deacons. But that is acceptance, not tolerance. And, honestly, the church does not have to accept homosexuals if it goes against their religion. Homosexuals do not HAVE to be members of a church, and they do not HAVE to get married in one. That is just their desire, but the Chruch does not want that. So respect it please. Stop trying to seek acceptance in a venue where it is frowned upon. That is just setting yourself up for dissapointment. I have never understood the need of some homosexuals to integrate themselves in the Church. You dont have a 'right' to practice in a church that is against your way of life, and by no means does anyone HAVE to accept you. Thinking that way is honestly pretty self centered.
4 I would like to see church finances managed. Some are corrupt (there is corruption everywhere of course), but I'd love to see this done with big business and the govornment as well. Honestly it would be great if the people got a look at all Govt. spending before it happened so we can say yay or nay. But that's just fantasy.
5 Not all followers of the religion are good, and there are many fake people in the faith but also there are a lot of good people too. Really generalized statement there, and I'm guessing you havent known many good Catholics or Christians, which is really very sad. It's our job as people of the faith to only bring positive light on ourselves and act with grace and humility. But people can and do get heated and emotional about things they believe in, and sometimes people get corrupted with power. But you see this everywhere. It doesnt excuse it by any means, but I just hope that you adopt that mentality with people besides those in the religious scene.
This was fun :3
Hoosgrow (in #3.2),
1. You're right: your use of the Constitution was a bad example. In fact, I think you created an argument for what you were arguing against by using that example. Things should be updated according to the times. It makes logical sense and will ensure survival of these "things." Otherwise, they will go extinct and be replaced by something modern with which people can relate.
2. Marriage is also a civil union whether you like it or not. Regardless of what your religion classifies it as, it also has legal implications in the real world and in society in general.
3. I agree, tolerance is not acceptance. I find it strange to say that you don't talk smack about your co-worker after you call her loud-mouthed and obnoxious! Churches may have the spiritual authority on marriage, but marriage is a civil agreement. The spiritual concept comes second. I agree, the churches do not have to accept homosexuals(although I disagree with why they reject us). At the same time, churches shouldn't have input on civil agreements. You are mistaken in the idea that most gays want to go to church and force people to accept them. We don't want to force people to accept us, we just want to be treated equally. If straight people can marry who they love, then we should be able to do the same. Believe me, I will never go to a church to ask for acceptance because I know that they are full of people like you who don't think I belong there. I am fine with that. There are plenty of denominations that accept gays with open arms instead of judgmental coldness and hatred. It's ridiculous that you think gays fighting for legal acceptance are self-centered. Did you think the same thing about blacks? Religious nuts fought against their rights too. If you are truly an American and believe in the ideals of liberty and justice for all, then you must accept the idea of equality for everyone regardless of your hateful religious interpretations.
4. The general public is not knowledgeable enough about the fiscal responsibilities of the government and the consequences of different choices. That is why we elect officials and rely on specialists and researchers. In the course of history, the majority has made horrible decisions on many occasions.
5.The real problem is that the supposed "good followers of religion" do not speak up as much as the bad ones. That is their problem, not ours. We can only deal with what we see and more times than not, the good Christians will not stand up for what is right in the face of opposition from the more conservative sects of their faith. Christianity's reputation will continue to suffer and more people will fall away from faith until this changes.
Awe, I was hoping John would respond, but thanks for taking your own time to do it!
1. Yeah, it was a really bad example, so here's a better one! Take the standard (written description) of a dog. Let's say, the Labrador. It is supposed to have a water resistent coat in the standard because it will be hopping in and out of the water all day long (presumably) to hunt. But times have changed, and the Lab isnt used as widely as a hunting dog like it used to be. Nowadays people who hunt with it do so just for sport, not to live. However, the Lab standard still calls for a water resistent coat because that is what makes a Lab a Lab. If you start changing the standard so that it can have a fluffy coat, or a wiry coat, or something like that then you no longer have a Lab. You've got something new and different. Even if you get a dog that is still really happy and has great retrieval skills, it still wont be a Lab anymore. Things evolve all the time, but everytime someting evolves, something is lost...and what takes it's place isnt always better.
2. Yeah I can see that, but marriage existed as a religious union before it was a civil union. Marriages happened a long time before government was created, but I think that the traditional union of marriage is something that the govt. has adopted outside of religion. I mean look at a Jewish marriage, it's totally different than a Catholic/Christian mariage, yet the law treats it as the same as one. I think it even aknowledges Polyamorous marriages doesnt it? This I'm admittedly unsure of. But still, whenever I think of homosexuals trying to marry, I assume they mean church marriages by a priest and in a church, which I honestly think it's wrong. That would be like walking into the PETA org. building and telling them you should be able to hunt squirrels on their front lawn. It's just not respectful. I honestly dont care if homosexuals want to have a union, but if the Govt. is all 'separation of church and state' then they shouldnt be making traditional christian/catholic....whatevs....marriage as the only way to do it. Why not let them have civil unions and make it count? Though I think that's the argument now...but even if you look at it from a religious point of view...why not try and make every other form of marriage illegal? Why only section out gays? If the govt. is going to tout it's separation than let a civil union between gay people count. The church doesnt even have to get involved.
3. Well yeah I mean I have to convey why I dont like her. Being descriptive is different than walking up to someone and saying 'omg you know so-n-so? She's such a blank right? And she's so blank and blank blank and omg her blank blank blank!' That is talking smack. Saying there's a girl at work I really dont like and why isnt. Also, I think were on the same page for a lot of this but our experiences might have us singing a little different. A lot of my friends who are homosexual actually did want me to accept them, and forcibly. And I've seen other articles in the past (I never save these things....I really should) over homosexual women saying they should be able to be priests and teach in catholic/christian schools and churches and such, and I dont think they should. I agree with you here, in that there are other places you can go and feel welcome, and by all means do it! But yeah, once people do start forcing acceptance (I dont mean forcing tolerance or equal rights, I mean actual 'hey I should be able to do this and that even if it breaks your own ideals and whatnot because they arent as important as what I feel my rights are') then yeah, I think that's self centered. You probably misinterpreted me (or I got confusing), I dont mean fighting for equal rights is selfish. I dont care that much lol, but when someone walks up to me and says that me not liking them is intolerant, and that I or the Church HAVE to accept their presence and lifestyle, that's when I get ticked off.
4. Yeah....yeah.
5. A problem with that though, is that good things arent as fun to report about as bad things. I mean, look at Pit Bulls (can you tell I'm a dog person?). One could say that the majority of their 'bad wrap' is Media based. The news has even taken stories of Lab mixes attacking people and purposely changed it to 'Pit Bull' because that will get more attention. The news sells what sells. I didnt see any articles about the Church in my area sticking by and helping the Sandy refugees after the Red Cross and others left them to fend for themselves. But when it comes to things like molestation and sex crimes, some of us cant do anything because it never gets reported. Sometimes though we do stand up, but nothing gets done...and then what happens when you hit the very top with nowhere else to go? Where are we supposed to go when the ones in charge dont care? And I mean in all respects. Cause this is not just an issue with the Catholic/Christian faith. I didnt catch what it was about, probably marijuana, but there was an article about how the bill, which recieved the correct number of supporters to be looked at, was rejected because there were too many supporters. That...is ridiculous. Damn I should have saved that article! And then what are we supposed to do? Go rogue? You get put in jail for peaceful protests these days, and then nothing gets done. See, a lot of the time even when we do stand up, our voices get drowned out by everything else or squashed into nothing. Sometimes there just is no way to fix things except to keep writing letters, keep crying out, keep pushing forward and that is what a lot of us are doing. We are crying for a change...because that's all we can do. Sometimes that opposition that comes up is something we just cant go against because of other obligations. I wouldnt expect a mother fighting agaisnt molestation to give up her family and freedom by doing something that would land her in jail, because then that's just taking away from her family. Ideally it would be awesome to gather the masses and charge for a cause...but realistically it's not possible, and it's not always smart either. These are situations that have so many dinamics...it's hard. It's one thing to say 'be the change', but it's another to try and fail, because the system that tells you to do it, wont let you.
I think I got a little rambly I appologize, your one of the more civil people I've talked to :3.
San Francisco was named after his choice of saint. As for betting on it. Argentina is now owned by the Baltimore Ravens. Maybe they can launder a deal in Las Vegas, a favorite of Francs. "Your golden sun will shine for me."
Huh?
LOL it's a little early in the a.m. to be hittin' the sauce
Actually, it's pretty funny if rather obtuse...
I for one born and raised in Cuba I have to say that I am not the most religious person out there. I believe in God in my heart not any where else. That being said; I congratulate our new Pope and wish him a long and peaceful life ahead.
Francis of Assisi was also very kind to and cared for animals...that was one of the main reasons I chose his name for my Catholic confirmation. Show me a man that is cruel to animals and I bet he isn't all that great towards his human brothers and sisters.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I too am a FRANCES my name means 'farmer' or 'grower of many things'.
Francis of Assisi believed that ALL life had value. From the smallest creature to the largest. He is often seen poised with a bird or other small animal only to reflect that all living things deserve protection, love and welfare. He was really our first conservationist.
Indeed, Jersey, St. Francis is the patron saint of animals, and I hope that he inspires this new namesake.
The false prophet has been appointed and it doesn't matter what we are being told about his personality from his past actions. What only matters is what he has yet to do.
Pope Francis is NOT a prophet. He is the leader of the western world's largest religion.
God bless Pope Francis I. In taking the name of Francis in honor of one of the most beloved saints in the Church and the world, is very telling. In a vision Francis was told by God: "Go, Francis, and repair my house, which as you see is falling into ruin." He has taken on the burden of rebuilding the Church in a dark hour. His humility and compassion is evidenced by his life thus far, (note to those who want to believe differently). However, as St. Thomas Aquinas, another great saint of the church once wrote: To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible. I pray that the Holy Spirit be always with him on his journey to rescue His flock from the clutches of the deceiver.
Here's to the whole Catholic community. May your lives be full and harmless and may your children learn to be civilized. Most of all, may your chosen leader foster coherence between concept and reality - for a change.
Although I no longer practice Catholicism, I am a proud Christan. I pray for all of you who believe in no higher power that soothes our souls, and minds. But I believe even if you don't God watches over all his children.
There is a saying that helps me when people try to put down all my beliefs
"For those who believe no proof is necessary, For those who do no believe no proof will suffice"
God Bless!
K,
That's not true. If you have proof, fill me in. I have an open mind. Who taught you that goofy phrase? It's clearly false considering my willingness to change my position.
Got evidence?
can YOU make an amoeba?
hmmmmmmmmmm didn't think so
The universe did not need a god to make an amoeba. The amoeba was unavoidable, given the conditions. Just because something exists does not mean that some other thing made it.
At Franics, you might want to do a little research. Scientists have now created a synthetic living cell in the laboratory.
Kind of makes your point moot.
Care to try again?
Marxist Owl..doesn't give a moot...
To dear Atheist
As I cited above the "goofy" (your word) phrase that K-109 paraphrased, comes from St Thomas Aquinas:
"However, as St. Thomas Aquinas, another great saint of the church once wrote: To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible."
A believer doesn't need proof. Faith is a grace given from God, which I pray you will be blessed with at some point in your lifetime.
Believing in something doesn't make it true. And conversely, not believing in something doesn't make it not true. Beliefs are just beliefs--they are neither true nor untrue.
You can base your beliefs on the "happy story" you find pleasant and comforting, or on the "scary story" that says you'll go to hell if you don't believe. Science's beliefs are based on observation of how things operate in the world--but science doesn't answer everything, either.
So I would say, Rena, save your pity.
He preaches poverty and care for the poor? Republicans are going to HATE this guy. As they hate the guy he represents.
Um, what "guy" would that be? Oh...
And Obama has done so much for the poor, well he did give them cell phones.
Perhaps this pope will influence people to be nicer to the poor (undo what Reagan did). There was a time when people felt compassion for the poor. Then Reagan came along and caused people to condemn the poor as lazy and worthless.
Actually some of the muslims liked St Francis during his time...do not see that today with their lack of tolerance for Christians, Jews (people of the book), and worse, infidels in general.
after the Prophet's DEATH..and Following CHAOS.
ISLAM...FORBID...MILITANT..JIHAD..
Later they CHANGED..to accept It..
THEN
later
they
MANDATED.WAR..against All INFIDELS..to Present day..Sharia "Law"
The pope is the biggest false idol of our time.
i thought...you were...?
When did the Pope become and idol?
It could be argued that Catholicism has many idols... just look at how they treat Saints and the Virgin Mary! The Pope is just another!
LORD
Make me an instrument..of thy Peace..
where there is hatred,let me sow love..
where there is injury,pardon; where there is doubt...faith
where there is despair; hope,where there is darkness;light,and where there is sadness;Joy...
Divine Master,grantthat I may not so much seek to be Consoled;as to Console..
to be understood; as to understand; to be loved;as to love..
For it is in giving;that we receive;
It is in pardoning; that we are pardoned; And it is..
In dying,that we are born to eternal life..
St.Francis of Assisi..
He was tuned...IN..To All...LIFE..Like some Buddhists..He had ..spontaneous ,autonamous Compassion...
For All...Living Things..He walked the Walk..shunned Fame and power..
EVERYONE..has to serve SOMEBODY..or / and SOMETHING
Be it..SELF
Money
POWER
FAME
LUST
GREED
EMPATHY
COMPASSION
IDEOLOGY
RELIGION
SPIRITUALITY
All of you are Bought and Sold ..From birth to DEATH..By YOUR MASTER..
WHOMEVER..or WHATEVER..you Choose or are Conditioned .by..in Your..."Choice",..of SUBJAGATION
Why does anyone care what this guy calls himself? He's just another delusional old man who thinks he has an invisible friend in the sky for which he, nor anyone else, has absolutely zero proof for?
SUSIE SOROS..Cries ..real tears.....or is that OBAMA's FREE..creamed Cheese..?
Interesting, I can reply to people I'm ignoring. That's funny. Don't recall why I'm ignoring him, but since I must have had a good reason, there's not a lot of point in looking at whatever he said.
An OBAMACARE..test case...for MAD COW..disease
Ya, it's just a bunch of psychotic babble. Some people like sending out cries for help that they know will never really be answered.
Kind of like prayer.
MSNBC
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After The Marxist Martyrs Day Parade...today..
The SOCIALIST SAVIOR..will baptize ..all the gathered OCCU=PLOP Kids ..
in the Name of The Hammer and The Sickle..
Give us this Day..Our daily...food stamps..
MSNBC
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A Gerbil escaped in Colorado today...will report as events unfold...
they found it. It's in jerry sanduskys cell.
they are working to get it out. up date to follow later
GUEST OBAMA..
to sing Tonight..
On AMERICAN Socialist Idol...
will sing," Somewhere,..Over The Rainbow"
They left out a whole bunch of info about St Francis.
I hope he completely realizes what he's signed up for in choosing the name Francis. If any part of him embodies what St Francis dealt with it gives me concern for his person, not as a pope.
Hey, wait. Francis is supposed to be about helping the poor, right?
Maybe he'll finally sell off one or two percent of the incredibly valuable historical artifacts the Vatican has been storing for a thousand years and feed everyone on the planet for a few years???
The former pope is now taking the name "Eggs".
Given that state of the church today, his choice of a name is indeed interesting! Based on what I have heard so far, it seems he is the right choice to lead the church! Of course, time will tell. I believe what the church needs today is reform!It needs to reach out to a world that has increasingly embraced the advances of technology. It needs to remove its veil of secrecy. Secret organizations and governments are distrusted!
Who has reviewed the Jesuit Oath? I mean the real insider one!
This pope seems to be a real "VICAR OF THE SON OF GOD" here on earth.
He refuses praise, takes a common bus, washes others feet, walks the street to meet with people.
All this is ironic however. Plus, this name "Francis" does hav deep meaning for the catholic church (Francis Xavier)