Love it. I never understood how a government (which we heavily support) allows so many people to do nothing but study religion and procreate when the rest of the country actually works for a living and both, (non-orthodox) men and women, are conscripted to protect the land - and those who study religion all day. Talk about a handout. Maybe if the orthodox began contributing to the state then the US could cut back on all that money we keep forking over every year when we're broke ourselves.

Well said NFIL.

It is freaking unbelievable our own senators willing to cut grandma's social security and send that money to these ungrateful freeloaders.

It is about a BILLION dollars US gave to Israel for the Iron Condom project alone. Israel would not need the system in the first place if it did not operate concentration camps where they seem to kill palestinian women & children at will.

Those poor innocent Palestinians....they can hardly blow up Israeli schools and buses any more. It must be difficult for them.

The first 2 posters -

In your favorite muslim countries they hang, shoot, behead even crucify people (read today's news), in Israel, a democrartic country is moving forward in forming a new, less theocratic and more liberal government. And you find a way to criticize them? Kudos to them.

It's understandable.

Bibi's right-wing government kept giving Palestinians excuses not to negotiate. The centrist government will be working harder toward negotiations, Palestinians will refuse (of cause), but they wont be nearly as convincing when they try blame it all on Bibi, which will be bad for pr.

Sikie and others like him simply can not admit that they are sad about this change in Israeli government.

Hey farideh kardashian stay on the subject. Stop your racist trolling....

Of cause, only racist trolls would have a problems with beheading and hangings, right?

There's nothing to negotiate with Hamas, a terrorist organization sworn to the destruction of Israel and the killing of every Jew.

.

Hamas is a group of freedom fighters, opposed to Israeli theft of Arab land. We should be supporting Hamas and tell the Israeli parasites to support themselves for a change. We have been supporting their sorry a4$$es for over 50 years.

Israel's economy is
thriving in a global economic meltdown. The Jewish state's 2009-12 economic
growth of 14.7 percent leads all the advanced countries of the world, followed
by Australia with 10.7; Canada 4.8; United States 3.2; Germany 2.7; France 0.3;
European Union minus 1.5 percent.

Israel's economy is thriving, yet they still lobby for more handouts from the USA, who is going broke paying for the 2 wars for Israel in Afganistan and Iraq. Both wars were fought to secure gas and oil pipelines for Israel.

Once the Pentagon's choice to lead the "new" Iraq, Chalabi
promised to reopen an old British-built pipeline from Kirkuk in northern Iraq
to the Israeli port of Haifa. The plan impressed Richard Perle, Douglas Feith
and other conservatives influencing Bush administration policy toward Iraq in
the lead-up to last year's war.

The idea also drew enthusiastic response from Israel.

"The pipeline would be a dream," Yosef Paritzky, Israel's minister
of infrastructures, said as reported by Salon.com. "We'd have an
additional source of supply, and could even export some of the crude through
Haifa. But we'd need a treaty with Iraq . . . to build the pipeline."

Once Chalabi assumed a position of influence in the new Iraqi government,
Israel would get its treaty, the neoconservatives were assured.

http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/19725/iraq-to-haifa-oil-pipeline-could-spur-economic-rebirth/

radical muslim ralph -

No matter what the subject is, you crawl from under your rock and post "pipeline" non sense over and over again. Israel is demonstrating the ultimate freedom anf democracy in their electionand cabinet coalition process. Your Iranian ayatollahs do not. The article is talking about finally cutting off some of power the orthodox crowd had in their cabinet. Your Iranian theocrats are dead set on being a theocratic dictatorship.

These things don't set well with you - goes against your agenda - so you have to cut and paste other repeated stupid things.

HAMAS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sdCsl98naqM#t=303s

This is where Ralphy boy gets his information:

Jew as world parasite

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/weltparasit.htm

I see you use the word "parasites" in many of your postings. Where did you get your terminology?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eternal_Jew_(1940_film)

Jews as an uncivilized and parasitic people

http://brainz.org/10-most-evil-propaganda-techniques-used-nazis/

The Nazi Party accused them of being a parasitic race that attached itself to capitalist nations to destabilize the economy and culture of their ‘host’ nation"

Credits to the person who previosuly posted this. KPR37?

@Coloradoboy: I agree the ultra-orthodox should have little if any say in politics. But Hamas must first abrogate its covenant of genocide.

The desire of the Muslims to commit Jewish genocide has existed since the days of Allah and did not start with the onset of the Arab-Israeli conflict. With regards to imposing Sharia law, they make no distinction between lands originally Muslim and lands that they conquered by force. They are also not in favor of “peaceful solutions,” and prefer to kill or be killed. They believe that the Jews started the French Revolution and the first and second world wars and their views on Jews and financial institutions are comparable to the Nazis. They claim freedom of all religions under Islam though go on to say that “Israel, Judaism and Jews challenge Islam and the Moslem people” and that “Peace and quiet would not be possible except under the wing of Islam.”

See: “Avalon Project: Hamas Covenant 1988,” Yale University School of Law for more information.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

Basil - If Arabs had wanted to eradicate Jews from what is now called Israel, they could have done so when they held 90% of the land, which had been the case for more than a thousand years. Muslims held the land during most of that time, yet the Jews still lived among them, without any fear. The Muslims of 1000 years ago, lived by the same rules as those of today. There was no program to wipe out Jews.

Since Israel was established, by taking the land of Arabs, Israeli Jews have systematically taken more and more Arab land and water resources, using security as their reason. When Israel decides the time is right for expansion, they have instigated attacks, through assasinations of leaders, false flag attacks, building illegal settlements on Arab lands and plowing in another countries fields. See below:

“Moshe Dayan, the celebrated
commander who, as Defense Minister in 1967, gave the order to conquer the
Golan...[said] many of the firefights with the Syrians were deliberately
provoked by Israel, and the kibbutz residents who pressed the Government to
take the Golan Heights did so less for security than for the farmland...[Dayan
stated] ‘They didn’t even try to hide their greed for the land...We would send
a tractor to plow some area where it wasn’t possible to do anything, in the
demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot.
If they didn’t shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance further, until in
the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot.

And then we would use artillery and
later the air force also, and that’s how it was...The Syrians, on the fourth
day of the war, were not a threat to us.’” The New York Times, May 11, 1997

It is kind of tough to argue the facts, when I have posted the admissions of the actual perpetrators.

Farideh gets angry when I post as proof about the Iraq war being fought for the 42"oil pipeline from Iraq to Israel in an article from the Jerusalem Post, with comments from an Israeli official. She demonstrates her own stupidity.

Lets take a look at some comments of Israeli leaders to see how peaceful they are toweards Arabs.

. "We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation,
and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab
population."

Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum"

"I don't know something called International Principles. I vow
that I'll burn every Palestinian child (that) will be born in this area. The
Palestinian woman and child is more dangerous than the man, because the
Palestinian child’s existence infers that generations will go on, but the man
causes limited danger. I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian and I met a
Palestinian I would burn him and I would make him suffer before killing him. With
one hit I've killed 750 Palestinians (in Rafah in 1956).... I wanted to
encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as the Palestinian women is a
slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to her and nobody tells us what we
shall do but we tell others what they shall do."

Ariel Sharon, current Prime Minister, in an interview with
General Ouze Merham, 1956

Sharon said this back in 1956, when there was no PLO or Hamas. The PLO and Hamas were formed to combat this bloodthirsty animal's mentality. How do like me throwing Sharon's words in your Zionist faces, guys?

"We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live
here as slaves."

Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of
General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.

"An article archived on the Media Monitors Web site is filled with questionable assertions and bogus quotes (some of which were debunked in Part I.) The following quote (which also appears on the MIFTAH Web site) was attributed to Israeli Northern District Commissioner Israel Koenig, supposedly from his controversial report on Israeli Arabs in Galilee:

We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.

Source given: Cited in Lustick, Ian, Arabs in the Jewish State, University of Texas Press, Texas, 1980.

Investigation: Neither the source given (Ian Lustick's Arabs in the Jewish State) nor the actual report itself contains any mention of "terror, assassination, intimidation or land confiscation".

The Koenig Report or “memorandum” as it is sometimes referred to, was a private document of recommendations written in 1975 by civil servant Israel Koenig, the Interior Ministry’s official in charge of the Galilee, to alter the demographic balance of the region in favor of the Jews. The recommendations were rejected by then Prime Minister Yitzchak Rabin, denounced by senior Cabinet ministers and rued by then foreign minister Yigal Alon who expressed great regret that the recommendations were ever written. It provoked controversy within Israel after being leaked to AlHamishmar, the publication of Israel’s Marxist party, Mapam. Koenig’s recommendations included expanding and strengthening Israel’s Jewish presence in the Galilee, applying legal consequences to Arabs expressing hostility toward the state and Zionism, enforcing tax collection from the Arab sector, cutting family subsidies to Arabs with large families, eliminating preferential acceptance of Arabs into Israeli universities, channeling Arab students into studying the physical and natural sciences rather than humanities, and encouraging young Arabs to study abroad and emigrate. As controversial as Koenig’s proposals were at the time, however, there was absolutely no suggestion of sing "terror," "assassination," "intimidation" or "land confiscations."

Summary: Fabricated quote, false source

MIFTAH (www.miftah.org)

Of the “memorable quotes” featured on MIFTAH’s Web site (some of which have already been debunked in Part I), the following is attributed to one Chairman Heilbrun:

We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves.

Source given: Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983

Investigation: The quote is found on numerous anti-Israel sites, in addition to MIFTAH’s, but the facts do not check out. While Shlomo Lahat was indeed re-elected as mayor of Tel Aviv in 1983, no record was found of any “Chairman Heilbrun.” The quote was traced to a 1988 book, The Hidden History of Zionism, by radical Marxist Ralph Schoenman (dismissed by mainstream historians as a crazed conspiracy theorist),
and is one of many bogus quotes in the book attributed to Israeli leaders. According to Schoenman’s footnote, the quote by Heilbrun was hearsay relayed to him in private conversations:

Cited by Fouzi El-Asmar and Salih Baransi during discussions with the author, October 1983

Needless to say, Schoenman’s scholarship, upon which many anti-Israel Web sites depend, leaves much wanting. CAMERA contacted former Mayor Lahat who attested that he has never employed, known or heard of any such person as “Chairman Heilbrun,” and that the reported incident never took place. Lahat also emphasized that he would never allow any of his employees to make such statements, as it completely contradicts his own sentiments about Palestinians.

Summary: Fabricated quote, fabricated source”

Ralph:

All countries, possessing the ability to do so, engage in covert and subversive activities as a means of self-preservation, including Israel. Israel is, however, one of the very few countries surrounded by enemies that have been hell-bent on its destruction since 1948. And it is not the existence of “Israel” per-se that is the problem. Historically, the Jewish people have been a convenient whipping post for the disillusioned and disenfranchised because they never fought back. They did, however, start doing so in 1948 and the world, unaccustomed to Jews fighting back, didn’t like it. Israel is merely a rationalization for your inbred, obsessive hatred of the Jews, and whether you verbally attack the Jews, Israel, or the concept of Zionism is, therefore, immaterial. Your unitary focus on Israel, to the exclusion of all other countries that do or would behave similarly or even worse under similar circumstances, exposes you for the fundamentally hypocritical, bigoted, intolerant, and hateful person that you are. But make no mistake about it, the Jewish people will continue to fight the likes of you and will ultimately prevail because we are, and always have been, on the side of the righteous.

The above was taken from:
Exposing False Zionist Quotes II (Quote Busters II) by Ricki Hollander (October 4, 2004)

""* MIFTAH (The Palestinian Initiative for the Promotion of Global Dialogue and Democracy), an organization under the helm of Hanan Ashrawi, aims to "increase global awareness and knowledge of Palestinian realities by providing reliable, accurate and comprehensive information, policy analysis, strategic briefings and position papers." [emphasis added] To that stated end, the organization dispenses information on its Web site, among which are quotes attributed to Zionist leaders under the heading "Memorable Quotes."

* Media Monitors describes itself as "a non-profit, non-bias [sic] and non-political platform which mainly helps to prevail the whole truth and generally facilitate answers to any disputed, controversial topic being broadcast, web cast, published, distributed or telecast in the world media." It calls upon journalists, editors, writers, reporters, researchers, columnists, content providers, etc. to join the organziation "to counter information warfare and fabricated propaganda in the world media." An article on its Web site entitled "Apartheid in the Holy Land: Racism in the Zionist State of Israel" is filled with racist quotes by Zionist leaders.

British journalist Robert Fisk, known for his virulent anti-Israel sentiment, wrote a column for The
Independent in April 2001 entitled: "When Journalists Refuse to Tell the Truth About Israel." Suggesting that journalists fear being "slandered" as anti-Semites, he accuses them of covering up Israel's supposed guilt thus "abetting terrible deeds in the Middle East." Of the "truths" journalists are being censured for refusing to tell are several contemptuous quotes attributed to Israel's leaders.

All of the above rally against those who hide the truth or fabricate propaganda, while puporting to reveal the hidden facts. Their hypocrisy is mind-boggling as they disseminate "truths" that are anything but that.

In Part I of our series on misquotes, we showed how the attribution of invidious statements to Israel's
leaders has become a popular stratagem among Israel's enemies, with many quotes fabricated, taken out of context or otherwise manipulated to present a distorted, negative view of Zionist intentions and actions. Part II will examine some of the misquotes presented by self-proclaimed purveyors of truth."

For more on false Zionist quotes, click here.

Also check out CAMERA's "Urban Myths and Misquotes"

MIFTAH (www.miftah.org)"

Exposing False Zionist Quotes II (Quote Busters II)

Ralphy boy:

The following was also taken from:
Exposing False Zionist Quotes II (Quote Busters II) by Ricki Hollander (October 4, 2004)

"Hanan Ashrawi routinely propagates the common but false claim that land not owned by Jews in Palestine in 1948 belonged to Palestinian Arabs. In fact, historically, under Ottoman and British rule, most of the land was government owned. According to statistics from the Survey of Palestine, which was published in 1946 by British Mandate authorities, and later republished by the PLO-affiliated Institute for Palestine Studies, Jews owned 8.6 percent of the land and Arabs owned 28.6 percent. But the Arab total included Bedouin grazing land (8.4 percent) and waste land (13.4 percent), neither of which was legally ownable according to the prevailing Turkish and British land laws. Not counting Bedouin grazing land and waste land, Arab owned land totaled only 6.8 percent. But, even if one counts land in these categories as Arab owned, the majority of land in Palestine in 1948 was state land, which did not belong to Palestinian private owners. Because there was never a sovereign Palestinian Arab state, this state land cannot be said to have ever have been "Palestinian owned."

http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_article=864&x_context=2

http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=7&x_issue=21&x_article=775

Basil- The Zionists have been exposed by their own words, thanks to the internet. The rest of the world has known about the duplicity of Israel and her leaders for years. Americans are now catching up fast. The time is nearing when Israel will be alone and isolated from any friends in the international community.

Imagine, all those Jews in one country, with no one to screw but themselves. How will they ever survive.

Americans must vote out any politicians who support Israel in any way. Get rid of the Cantors, the Engles, the Lindsey Grahams and the Mitch McConnells of this country, who put Israel's needs ahead of those of America. If they won't even bring up cutting aid to Israel, in this economic environment, then they are unfit to serve America. Vote them out and end all aid to Israel.

Thank you Basil. You have articulated well. Ralph has always been the fanatical jew hater that he is - same as his idol ahmadinejad and the theocratic mullahs, and he will never accept the fact that Israel is civilized and democratic by comparison. Let him hate. It is really bothering him that there is a democratic process, political coalition, and real elections in Israel. ralph has never experienced that in muslim countries.

farideh you are as smart and educated as the kardashians... There are 24 Arabic countries around the world. You base you knowledge on faux news whidh focus on the negatives and more on tribal areas. Your ignorance is turning into racism ms. kardashian...

Then let's hear about something good accomplished by those Arabic countries, we all would love that.

If I were Obam, I would have cut all aid and trade to Israel to force this Nut out of Israeli politics.

I am sure you would.

If I were Obama, I would cut all aid to Egypt and Pakistan, which I am sure you wouldn't.

Eli, guess what, it was pro Israel factions that stopped a bill to end aid to Egypt. The arguement was that it would be harmful to Israel.

We supply aid tp Pakistan in order for them tompermit the TAPI gas pipeline to run through Pakistan to India. Since the TAPI gas pipeline would be transporting Israeli owned gas, it would be hurting Israel to stop that aid. I guess you are too dumb to figure it out. We are in Afghanistan and Pakistan because of Israel.

Oil companies proposed the pipeline in 1995, but
it dropped off their agenda after the Taliban took control of Afghanistan the
following year. The plan was revived after the United States-led invasion of
Afghanistan in 2001, and received backing from the Asian Development Bank,
which financed feasibility studies.

Iran
can sell gas to India at a third the price of Turkmenistan. This is the ENTIRE
issue. In Turkmenistan Israel holds the lease rights to sell this gas and US
companies are building the pipeline called TAPI. This has gotten Iran upset and
that is what the whole reason for petroleum sanctions. We have US military
holding the Taliban at bay in the North all the while prince and his private
paramilitary mercenary forces are executing pipeline security privately in the
South to lend some sort of propriety to this whole sham of a war.

Stop aid to Pakistan, Egypt and above all, Israel.

So, what you are saying is that Egypt and Pakistan can't even manage to buy something without receiving something for free along with it.

Well, I say they will learn if they have to.

I don't mind aid cut of to Israel, as long as aid is also stopped to their enemies (including Palestinians), if Israel does not have to worry about loosing aid, they wont hold back next time they are attacked and give all your terrorist friends exactly what they deserve.

If you are OK with that, good for you.

We have Welfare to work now. No one sits home and get s Welfare without having to work anymore. You want to see real Welfare, look back before the Cold war ended and we needed a Manpower Pool to face down the Soviet Union. Where do you think that Manpower Pool came from? You guessed it, Welfare Babies. The Cold War ended and then Bill Clinton Changed Welfare to Welfare to work.

The Welfare you envision no longer exists just like the Soviet Union no longer exists.

Reagan s War on So-called "Welfare Queens" does not exist anymore. It's people like you who try and keep it alive with your "Dog Whistle" sound bytes.

farideh,

Posts that you think that are anti-israeli are actually pro-israeli. I personally want to help isreal by pointing out what stinks about them. so that they can fix it.

It just happens to be there are way too many man things that stinks..

I personally want to help isreal

Good grief lan...you want to help isreal??? LOL You can't help yourself. You can't spell it and don't even realize that it's capitalized. Go see a doctor and get yourself healthy and energized. Maybe you'll be able to make posts that make sense for a change.

Chief (Or Chef?)

I think it should be named Jewstan, no?

Well, it does include a province called Judea, but you and yours insist on calling it West Bank for some reason.

Farideh wrote - "So far, nine (9) out of (12) posts are anti Israel". Good observation farideh. It means Americans are getting fed up with supporting a nation of parasites, who have been fleecing America since the day Israel was formed. Each year, Israel gets more and more brazen in its behavior and demands upon America for funding.

Last year we paid for their "Iron Dome", to the tune of a billion dollars. Israel got the Iron Dome, America got the bill.

Or may be it means that the supporters of terrorism struggle desperately because they are loosing footing.

US used to be completely on the side of Arabs, until Arabs started accepting support from USSR, that gave Americans a little jab, and since then they have been waking up more and more.

Soon they will wake up completely.

Most Americans and many in the Arab world do think they will use nukes if they accomplish their ambitions. They do think they will use their nuclear power to destroy either by direct or indirect methods. The Saudis have been pushing for Iranian disarmament and Iraq is not keen on Iran getting them either. The Iranian president has clearly stated that he wants Israel to be obliterated. Most of the UN nations do not want Iran to get nukes. Saudi Arabia and other Muslim countries have submitted intel about their nuke program and they are worried. With all the sand and sun in that region why would Iran need nuclear power? Solar cells main component is made from sand. The fact that they lie about their nuclear weapons ambitions shows that they can not be trusted with nukes. No country should have them but we sure as hell don't need more getting them especially small countries with delusions of grandeur.

Fight forfreedom- On what evidence do you and the people who think Iran will use a nuclear weapon, base your beliefs? The answer is Israeli propaganda, which is based on nothing. Here is an example:

'1992:'Israeli parliamentarian Benjamin Netanyahu tells his
colleagues that Iran is 3 to 5 years from being able to produce a nuclear
weapon – and that the threat had to be "uprooted by an international front
headed by the US"'.

Hey look - It is over 20 years since Netanyahu made hisbold prediction and Iran still has no nukes. Furthermore, all our intelligence agencies have concluded Iran does not even have a nuclear weapons program. What have you to say about that fact?

Iran has not started a war with another country in almost 200 years and you fearlessly predict they will nuke Israel with weapon they do not have and have not been working on. You are as off the wall as Netanyahu.

"Iran has not started a war with another country in almost 200 years"

Keep posting that lie over and over again. Iran attacked the US embassy (US territory) in 1979, then USS Stark, a Navy Ship (a US territory), not to mention numerous attacks on our Marines, soldiers and civilians.

Enough of your lies. I know the more you say it, the more you think will believe it. May be, stupid people.

Is that as many times as israel attacked us?

No, in Iran's case it's more than zero.

farideh, you keep posting that Iran attacked the Cole, the emabassy, the Stark, but never offer any proof. The perpetrators of the Cole were caught and they were not from Iran. If there was proof Iran attacked any of those entities, don't you think we would have responded with a war?

I say again, Iran has not started a war with any country in more than 100 years. If you disagree, please name the war, instead of posting allegations based on Israeli proaganda or pulled out of your anus.

The war between Israel and Lebanon, by sponsoring Hezbollah.

The war between Israel and Gaza, by sponsoring Hamas.

I know where israel stole their nukes from.

May be from the same place as China and NK did? but, you know that Israelis are a lot smarter than that. They are advanced in science and technology, including your smartphone, and they make a much needed heartburn medicine that definitely will help you.