During his visit to Israel, President Obama said a diplomatic solution is still possible in dealing with a nuclear Iran. When addressing Israeli-Palestinian peace prospects, Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Israel remains "fully committed to peace." NBC's Chuck Todd reports.
On his first state visit to Israel, President Barack Obama said Wednesday the United States “will do what is necessary” to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons and was praised by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for his resolve.
During a joint press conference peppered with warm exchanges, two leaders who have not always seen eye to eye stressed points of agreement, even clarifying that both Israel and the U.S. believe it would take about a year for Iran to develop a nuclear weapon,
But there were also some signs of disagreement.
While Obama said “there is still time” to find a diplomatic solution to the problem of Iran’s uranium-enrichment program, Netanyahu emphasized the clock is ticking.

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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (second right) and President Shimon Peres (left) welcome President Barack Obama to Israel Wednesday. All three emphasized the enduring friendship between the U.S. and Israel.
“Whatever time is left, there’s not a lot of time,” he said.
Praising Obama for mobilizing the international community, Netanyahu noted that “diplomacy and sanctions so far have not stopped Iran's nuclear program” and called for a “clear and credible threat of military action.”
Responding that all options are on the table, Obama said, “We will do what is necessary to prevent Iran from getting the world's worst weapons.”
Still, he suggested that the U.S. and Israel might have different timetables for how and when to respond.
“Each country has to make its own decisions when it comes to the awesome decision to engage in any kind of military action. And Israel is differently situated than the United States,” Obama said.
Netanyahu also spoke of “different vulnerabilities” but stressed the common ground.
“I appreciate the fact that the president has reaffirmed, more than any other president, Israel's right and duty to defend itself, by itself, against any threat,” he said.
The press conference, in which both men made statements and answered four questions, also focused on the situation in Syria and the prospects for Israeli-Palestinian peace.
“Israel remains fully committed to peace and to the solution of two states for two peoples,” Netanyahu said, adding that he hoped Obama’s visit and his meeting Thursday with Palestinian officials in the West Bank would “help us turn a page in our relations with the Palestinian people.”
Asked about claims that Syrian President Bashar Assad’s regime used chemical weapons Tuesday, Obama said the U.S. is still investigating but he is “deeply skeptical” of the government’s allegation that the opposition deployed the weapons.
“I believe Assad must go and I believe he will go,” Obama said.
Meeting with Peres
The question-and-answer session came hours after Obama declared that Israel has "no greater friend than the United States," following a meeting with Israel’s President Shimon Peres.

Ammar Awad / Reuters
Palestinian demonstrators hold placards, some depicting President Barack Obama dressed as an Israeli soldier during a protest in the West Bank city of Ramallah on Tuesday.
Peres warmly praised Obama as “very knowledgeable,” adding there could be “no better” leader to take the peace process forward. He also thanked Obama for the “lots of sleepless nights” the president had endured in support of Israel.
Earlier Wednesday, Obama was met at Tel Aviv's airport by Netanyahu and Peres, along with a military band and a host of other officials and dignitaries.
All three men gave speeches that emphasized the friendship between the U.S. and Israel – Netanyahu spoke of the “unbreakable alliance,” Obama the “unbreakable bond.”
Obama, who began his speech with “shalom,” said he was “confident in declaring that our alliance is eternal.”
“The United States is proud to stand with you as your strongest ally and your greatest friend,” he said.
He said it was not an accident that he had made the first overseas trip of his second term in office to Israel.
“Across this region, the winds of change bring both promise and peril,” Obama said, likely a reference to the Arab Spring uprisings that saw an Islamist president voted into power in Egypt and a civil war erupt in Syria.
In his speech, Netanyahu thanked Obama for “standing by Israel at this time of historic change in the Middle East.”
“We deeply appreciate your friendship and we share your hope that the Middle East will enjoy a future of freedom, prosperity and peace,” he added.
President Barack Obama leaves Tuesday for his first ever trip to Israel as president and the White House is already lowering expectations for that visit. The New York Times' Elizabeth Bumiller, USA Today's Susan Page and The Washington Post's Ruth Marcus discuss.
Picking up on comments Obama made before the trip –- expressing the desire to put on a disguise and go to a Tel Aviv bar -- Netanyahu joked that he had lined up a few locations and “even picked out a fake mustache for you.”
Obama also viewed an “Iron Dome” air defense missile launcher, a U.S.-funded system that was brought to the airport for him to see. The system has helped protect Israelis from Hamas rocket attacks from Gaza.
On Thursday, the president will meet Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in the West Bank, where he can expect a mixed reception.
"It's not a positive visit," Wasel Abu Yousef, a senior official in the Palestine Liberation Organization, which is led by Abbas, told Reuters.
In Ramallah on Tuesday, Palestinian police scuffled with scores of demonstrators protesting Obama's visit.
Obama is likely to offer reassurance that the U.S. still supports the creation of an independent Palestinian state.
However, little progress on the peace process is expected during the trip.
'Horrible conclusion'
In an editorial Wednesday, the Haaretz newspaper said it would “take a good bit of imagination to expect a breakthrough over the next two days.”
“Here lies the central danger of the visit. The Israeli government and public could conclude, based on the polite tone of the president and the lack of a threat or demonstrative pressure, that Israel is now exempt from having to initiate steps toward resuming the peace process,” it wrote.
“This would be a horrible conclusion. Obama and the United States are not a party to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The president of the United States is not the one who must live in a society that is being transformed as a result of the occupation and pushed to the margins of the international community,” it added.
The Jerusalem Post said that there would “admittedly” be “little if any headway” on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
However, its editorial said the visit would be more than just a “charm offensive,” given the war in Syria and the prospect of Iran getting a nuclear weapon. Iran insists its nuclear program is for peaceful means only.
“As the leader of the Jewish people, who have been threatened with destruction by Iran’s leaders, Netanyahu wants assurances that the U.S. will launch a military strike if necessary to prevent a nuclear-armed Iran,” the Post wrote.
“Ideally, he would also like to define a mutually agreed upon ‘red line’ or the point at which it has been determined that diplomacy and sanctions are useless and military action must be taken,” it added.
Reuters contributed to this report.
Related:
Rough ride ahead for Obama as Palestinians, Israelis lukewarm over visit
Israel to grill Obama over possible military strike on Iran


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Obama, getting his marching orders from Israel. We brought freedom to Iraq- on to Syria and Iran.
Hopefully he'll be on the side of the American people. We're tired of WAR. And broke from WAR.
We're not broke BECAUSE of Iraq and Iran. We're broke because of greed in America.
I meant Iraq and Afghanistan.
All through the last election...these same rt winger whined that president Obama wasn't speaking in person to Israel enough....then when he does go.... the same rt wingers whine because he is speaking in person to them..........Gee...... I wonder who the problem is?......DOH!.....
President Obama says he likes puppies and kitties....Rt Winger whine that all puppies bite and kitties scratch so that makes the president evil....Rt wingers then make voter suppression bills to stop kitties and puppies from voting. See a pattern here?......DOH!........Poor rt wingers even cry at the checkout counter when they see the gum and candy and they want it all right now.......see the pattern?
star boy, it's not that he's going, it's more like WHAT TOOK SO LONG!!! You see sailor boy, they don't even like him at this point. He ignored them for too long.
And yes we see a pattern. False promises, new taxes (Obamacare anyone??), higher taxes, catering to the Muslim countries while ignoring the others, etc, etc, etc... And then people like you. Yes, definitely a pattern.
Joe Mast... "We brought freedom to Iraq"...?
First, it's not this nation’s responsibility to impose our form of government
on anyone. Second, this country’s "freedoms" are based on amendments,
laws & regulations therefore this notion that American’s are endowed with
great freedom is absurd our freedoms are dictated… Our freedoms “laws” are just different compared
to other sovereign nations. Finally, the “freedom” we bestowed upon Iraq “as
liberators” totaled nearly 5,000 dead American soldier’s over 30,000 wounded an
estimated 130,000 killed Iraqis and 2.2 trillion dollars… Oh, the cost for
freedom what a small price to pay… Ridiculous!!
Kenny
Not to make you feel bad but who cares if they like us or not. They need us more then we need them. They had better remember which side their bread is buttered on and just who is doing the buttering. That's the bottom line. Israel has no business telling us how to conduct foreign policy. It's not like they're doing such a bang up job.
Utter krap. It's indisputable: these military disasters have bankrupted our Country, put it us in even WORSE standing in the world and have only divided this nation. You might want to come back to planet earth and try living in reality for a change - it's not that bad, really.
Martin, our freedoms are endowed upon us. Those freedoms are protected by the Constitution. The government is not supposed to dictate to us our freedoms or allow us to have them or whatever you think it is all about. We are born free and live free. That is a benefit of being an American.
Wow kenney....boy....You have the real inside information! Thanks....you must be CIA...or FBI....or sitting on the unintelligent committee.
Wow...so much knowledge..kenney.....even more than anyone else....even more than all the agencies collecting up to date intel........why you must be.....must be....gasp.....super kenneyboy!!!!!
Superkenneyboy....king of information who should have been President and not President Obama or Romney...or anyone else......How did America not make that happen for you?
Sorry Bibi, Barry has already reneged on his red line with Syria after learning they used chemical weapons yesterday. All talk and no action!
This is all about the photo op and nothing else
Why would he start now?
To: William B. Travis,
Certainly not on the backstabbing thieves like your kind and type, namely the Zionists!
Israel has had not whatsoever any benefit to US! You have been milking the American people since your assassination of JF Kennedy! YOur plunder of people of America and Europe with your banks such as Merrill Lynch, Goldman Sachs... you certainly have proven yourselves in the history of mankind! Wherever you have been you only have brought misery to that country with you! And I guess the next nation on your list is China! That's where the fresh smell of money is for you vampires!
Maybe Obama will also give them 5 or 10 billion just for the hell of it.
Barry.............Flops more than a fish.
Terry...and your side takes American jobs offshore to hide their profits in offshore accounts to avoid paying American taxes. Your side blocks the vote to remove those tax breaks from companies who take American jobs overseas. Terry your side blocked healthcare for 911 first responders, voted against jobs bills for vets who are committing suicide at a record pace. Terry your side wants to kill Social security, Healthcare, and the Post Office for the greedy republicons to privatize....for the greedy 1%...Now....you were saying?
Kennyboys,
Huhhh??? Aghast!!!!! Not like Obama? Not possible. Oh, I know. They must be racists.
I don't know much about the book of Revelations but he's been in office over 4 years and this is his first trip to Israel? Weird. Maybe he didn't visit before because he figured bursting into flames may have been bad for his reelection bid? Anyway, given The History Channel's "The Bible" and the coincidental likeness of Satan to Obama this trip may prove very interesting...
Be careful Israel, man speaks with forked tongue.
William...you must be posting about Bush the traitor who lied the nation and world into Iraq war...Or is it Nixon who stopped the signing of the peace negotiations during Viet Nam war just to get elected......You know...the newly released LBJ tapes showing S.V.Nam phones were tapped and FBI caught Nixon the traitor red handed blowing up the peace signing to end the war!
After his speech there was less applause than at a home loss for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
The majority of American People is with Israel .
Bla, bla, bla.....Bush use the same intelligence gather by Clinton, Hilary Clinton and the majority of Democrats vote for "Iraqi Freedom", Hillary never doubt about WMD in Iraq.
Ok Obama..It's time to listen up to your masters...It's a shame, a small entity like Israel is controlling the U.S. foreign policy...It's time to let them know who the boss is...Stop Israel from sending our children to senseless wars...Lets keep our men and women here...If Israel is ready for another war, then fine, let them go ahead and fight it alone...
I think that Obama will tell the Israelis to give free stuff to about half of the Arabs! Look how well it works in the U.S.! If these guys would just "be like Barrack" then there would be peace in the Middle East! Hey, maybe the U.S. could just take on a few Trillion more and give all the free stuff away! Obamaphones in Palestine! BRILLIANT!!!!!
Anyone know how much our National Debt goes up, every time a President visits our boss, Israel?
"unbreakable bond" - yep, as long as the US keeps pumping those billions of dollars into Israel there's likely to be that unbreakable bond there for a long time!
Wow. Wednesday must be 24 hour pass day at Bellevue!
I'm glad I do not live near a big city. There's only one outcome from this whole scenario. It could be a week, it could be 10 years, but it is going to happen.
Joe Mast: you're so right (sarcasm) because nothing Israel wants more than the unstable Islamist governments like Obama helped come in to Egypt and the rest of N. Africa. You obviously know nothing about the ME.
And I always thought Saddam's WMD went to Syria with the help of the Russians, who learned nothing from the Beslan attack.
TrustVerify, you little muslim apologist, and Pro-freedom, you little antisemite: the amount of money we give Israel is matched by the amount we give Egypt and the Pals except that in Israel it's not stolen by kleptomaniac rulers like Arafat. Instead Israel buys a lot from us and keeps the whole area from becoming Muslim and creates many medical, technological and other developments that benefit us and the rest of the world.
It is betters than give money to our enemies, the Islamic Brotherhood. Israel is the only trusted nation in the entire region.
Am I the only one that couldn't care less about what happens to Israel?
We pump billions of dollars into their country via weaponry and security deals. And for what? What is our return? To keep a bunch of pissed off Palestinians away from them?
Let the chips fall, Barack. Whatever happens, happens!
This isn't the first country, or the last, to be disputed. I just can't understand the obsession with it, other than the bible thumpers freaking out about a bunch of Palestinians running around "their" holy land.
I liked your post to the "little muslim apologist" straight and to the point
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It is a disgrace to Newsvine and yourself that this has been done.
We might not like what he has to say but the fact that anyone can even comment on this service is what sets us apart from countries like China, North Korea, other countries (perhaps our brethren in the middle east?) that suppress free speech and thought.
If it can be broken, Barry will do it.
It is funny how the most PRO Palestinian president since Jimmy is getting framed by the Palestinians as pro Israel... Which is laughable.
I gotta give the guy some credit for going over there... Most Israelis dislike him because he does not back Israel, and most Palestinians dislike him because he wont wave his magic wand and give them Jerusalem...
Nothing will be gained on these visits as it's just more posturing by the president to improve his approval ratings. The prime minister of Israel will be left hanging, again, as to where Obama stands in relation to Iran and its nuclear program.
Needless to say, Israel will eventually be forced to go it alone and will receive little support, if any, from the US. Just like Obama wants it.
The President is going to discuss the proposed plans for the next round of currency wars.
After all, there are still 3 countries not under the control of the international bankers: North Korea, Cuba and Iran. They must fall and a sacrifice of a major city must happen before the proposition of a New World Order or one world government is to passed through without opposition by the masses kept ignorant of the true intentions of all this recent upheaval in the world.
non
It is like when you were a child on the school playground and you became friends with someone your best friend did not like and they took you aside and told you that you could no longer be their friend if you befriended the other person. We put men in outer space and can wipe out the earth with the push of a button but we are still school girls that fight with each other in envy and emotion and not common sense.
Glen-1484791
And the people that collapsed him have every right to ignore his statements. Tit for tat. It happens. Especially when one is a foaming at the mouth fanatical.
Liberals have been trying to lie about the existance of chemical weapons and their use against Iranian soldiers and the Kurds in their own country for a long time. On April 30, 1993, the New York Times reported that:
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/30/world/tests-indicating-iraq-gas-warfare.html
Mustard and nerve gases are both chemical weapons. The left wing bloggers would never have found this difficult to believe when it was published, because it supported the actions of a Democrat in the White House, President Clinton.
I wish he was half as concerned about the United States as he is about other countries.
Wow the Obama haters are out in force today! Is it because CPAC was such a disappointment, or because non of you work for a living?
Photo Op time for posterity and legacy. The only thing that will happen; Obama will give more money to both sides and then come back to the U.S. asking for higher taxes.
@ KKwilson,
I hope so. What is your obsession with defending Israel ?
This talk of an "unbreakable bond" with the Israeli parasites makes one want to puke. We are in debt up to our ears, thanks to the Zionist/neocons role in the planning and selling of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, both for Israeli enbergy pipelines.
In Afghanistan it was for the TAPI gas pileline, to transport Israeli owned gas from Turkmenistan-Afghanistan -Pakistan to India. In order to complete the pipeline, we had to control the Taliban and bribe Pakistan, hence 9/11 and money to Pakistan.
www.rense.com/general15/game.htm
In Iraq, it was for a 42" oil pipeline from Iraq-Jordan to Haifa in Israel. For that one, we had to remove Saddam (he didn't like Israel) and install a Hashemite ruler (Chalabi) who would be friendly to Israel. We first needed the war to remove Saddam.
http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/19725/iraq-to-haifa-oil-pipeline-could-spur-economic-rebirth/
Break the unbreakable bond. The Israeli/Zionist parasites are destroying our country.
I hope the Israeli's don't believe a word obama says... we don't!
All I have to say about the whole Israel Palestinian issue is both sides have more than enough blame to go around and there are groups on both sides that I believe don't want the conflict to end. I do think there is a large group of the average people there that would like to see peace but there are those in power that don't want it. Nothing will ever happen till the finger point childish nonsense ends.
For me I'm fine with us being an ally to Israel but I'm not fine with all the aid we send them, or Egypt for that matter, and like others have said, I see little return for all we have spent on them or others in the region. I keep hearing how Israel can take care of itself, well then great, let them do it. I'm also not fine with the large amount of influence they have in our government and on our foreign policy. If we help them then they need to understand who has most say here. They want to do their thing then our money goes away. Israel's interests are for them first, US second, if that. Any of you that are so super supportive of Israel need to learn that they have done just as many bad things as Hamas and the rest, and if you like them so much move there and stop putting their interests over the US. Same goes for all the sell outs in DC.
The US should just pull all aid from the entire region and be done with it. Only when a serious and meaningful attempt to find a peaceful solution is agreed upon should we come back.
Like I said we can be friends but the rules of this game need to change and it needs to be made clear once and for all who has the most say in how things will be carried out and its not Israel.
It is time
Once again, Barry is saying one thing, but what does he really mean?
The word "shalom" is both a greeting & a goodbye..... which did Barry mean it to be?
The man doesn't "lie" per se..... his words are very carefully crafted to mean different things
........... and the problem with that is, WHAT again??????
If Israel wants to pick a fight with Iran, Great. Good for them. Fine. Beautiful. Lovely. *Golf clap*
I wish them all the best.
Let THEM send in THEIR OWN twenty five year old men to fight and die for it. Leave OURS alone. We're the United States of AMERICA, not the bytchboy (aka. The United States) of Israel.
We send them BILLIONS in our tax money and weaponry, don't we??? Time for them to earn their keep, and to put up or shut up.
You don't have to be a conservative to not like Obama (you do know the term "haters" is WAY over used, don't you?). I could care less about CPAC and I work for a living and I'm sick and tired of hearing about how my tax dollars are being spent. Is that really so difficult to understand?
"...citing an unbreakably bond", did anyone catch the snicker Barry hid after saying that?
Enough with the wars already... We are still in Afghanistan as well as having our foot all around the world...
Let Israel defend itself, which it has shown to be very capable of doing and if Isael needs/ask for the United States to back them, then I say lets do it...
All this saber rattling from the right wing war mongers is sickening, especially with this being the tenth year anniversary of the attack on Iraq looking for weapons of mass destruction.... We were lied to then we are being lied to now...
President Obama is too intelligent to be pushed into a war we don't have any right fighting...
Hey, RWNJs. If you don't like Starsailing's comments put him on IGNORE. Then his comments won't show up on your screen. I did that with Geo### because he usually did not to add to the topic being discussed. He only made snide remarks.
I notice a lot of you RWNJs are up rather early today. Did nurse Cratchit rattle your bars this morning?
Tax loss in Mn due to tax loss offshore accounts estimated at 1.8 billion last year....way to go repubs....keep those offshore accounts draining away the lifeblood of America while you bitch about the lifestyle being lower because of your own greed. DOHHH!!!! Use all the tax breaks in Mn in research, transportation, education, infrastructure, then run away without paying for your profits. Then you complain about Obama not making the economy recover fast enough while you do everything possible to stop it.
Bush use the same intelligence gather by Clinton, Hilary Clinton and the majority of Democrats vote for "Iraqi Freedom", Hillary never doubt about WMD in Iraq.
Not so, Redvirginia. The majority of the dems voted for war in Afghanistan but opposed the war in Iraq. As for the "intelligence" gathered by the Clinton administration, it was proven to be false by former CIA director George Tennet in February 2003, a month before the invasion. In fact, Tennet met with both Bush, Powell, and Rumsfeld to present evidence the intel was not only circumstantial but completely inaccurate. According to Tennet and Powell, Bush's response when told the intel was false was "F**k it, we're going in anyway." So Clinton gathered the intel believing it was true but didn't act on it, while Bush knew it was false but used it anyway to justify going to war.
Terry CA
If Israel wants to start a preemptive war, they better be able to finish it themselves. We should only come to their aid if they are attacked.
I pray that President Obama don't give that blood sucking Israel anymore foreign aid, "Enough" !!!
I can't think of one war Israel wasn't able to finish...oh, and they won, without a single American troop... God bless Israel
GOPers,
Im still waiting for a valid reason as to why the US should be so concerned about Israel and their conflicts. I understand its forced down your throat by Sean Hannity and crew, but WHY is the question you should be asking yourself.
DamnU....that is not a photo of me.......it's a photo from a tv show actor portraying another cool guy! Damn near right though!
Lets see if the tail will wag the dog. I don't think so and I hope not.
But it is a matter of concern to all Americans that the Israeli PM can talk down to American president while receiving $3B in aid. It only means that there are pro war forces within US that have Netyanyahu's back. Otherwise he is nothing.
I wonder how good President Obama is at ducking shoes being thrown in his direction? We may find out given the tone in the Middle East region.
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"This would be a horrible conclusion. Obama and the United States are not a party to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The president of the United States is not the one who must live in a society that is being transformed as a result of the occupation and pushed to the margins of the international community," Haaretz added.
I find this an odd as all get-out conclusion, as without that $3 billion per year that we keep sending Israel, they would have had to work-out a much-friendlier deal with the Palestinians long ago. How would you feel if the Jews had invaded your country, killed your sons, raped your wife and daughter, had stolen your land and all of your belongings, and then forced you to march 30 miles away to a refugee camp in 100-degree heat with no water, in total violation of the UN proposal for your portion of the world?
My guess is that you wouldn't be all that happy either! Contrary to the belief expressed in Haaretz, the US is very much a party to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, the ongoing unaddressed genocide there, as well as the establishment and maintenance of an apartheid State, and has been since 1947.
http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Palestine-Remembered/Story725.html
http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Palestine-Remembered/Story674.html
http://www.australiansforpalestine.net/
http://www.australiansforpalestine.net/history/massacres
Yes, I would say that we are very much involved up to our noses in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, and I would prefer if the President made our continuing financial support conditional on the providence of much-greater freedom for the Palestinian people, which might have to include some compensation for the land stolen and the lives lost, as well as some return of Palestinian lands too.
Gaza needs a viable amount of farmland to survive as an independent nation and Israel has stolen thousands of square miles of Palestinian farmland, so some of that has to be returned in order to ensure peace. Gaza has its own international airport which needs to be allowed to reopen too, in order to provide jobs. I'm not asking for anything at all that freedom-loving peoples the world over wouldn't demand for themselves.
Yes, the US is the sole reason that the Palestinian "problem" continues to exist today.
Just so that everyone knows, the former Palestinian port of Haifa is the terminus of an oil pipeline that was installed by the British. Haifa also has an oil refinery and oil-shipping terminal too, which is quite likely one of the main reasons that Republican support for Israel has been so consistent in the face of massive ongoing human rights violations for 65 years now.
who cares about the middle east bunch of religious freaks fighting over crap...the sooner we get the hell out of there and start taking care of our country the better....and Germany caused all the BS to begin with...what a complete mess
Ralph/Seaskip: I can sense your frustration. It must keep you up at night to hate Jews so much, yet have to deal with the daily reality that instead of playing the victim for the 70 years following the Holocaust, they decided to get educated and become successful - even rebuilding their Jewish Nation! I love watching Anti-semites like yourselves' heads explode at the thought. Thank you for the laughs!
Louie Bee, that's like saying that you will only help somebody after he's shot. Oh wait, by that time he's dead. So perhaps the time to intervene might be when the shooter has his gun aimed, not after he pulls the trigger. Especially when dealing with something so catastrophic as a nuclear bomb.
I find it curious that Obama states that the US has no greater friend than Israel, yet only 10% of Israelis polled favor Obama's positions on Israel. Could it be that Obama wants Israel to return to indefensible 1967 borders? Or maybe that Obama is giving out money and F-15s to the Muslim Brotherhood? No greater friend than Israel... yeah right. Sorry, but everybody has grown tired of Obama's campaign rhetoric. Actions speak louder. And while the American sheep and the mainstream news media (as evident on this message board) choose not to see through the smoke and mirrors, the history books surely will.
D. Man, the answer is that Israel is the only democracy in the middle east who is able to do the US's dirty work. For instance, in today's terms, they have the ability to take the lead in taking out Iran's nukes (that is, of course, unless Obama would prefer to have a nuclear Iran). And that is something that is vital to the well-being of the US. Try to take your hatred blinders off and take a look at reality. Whether you like the reality or not is irrelevant.
Maibra, will that be your attitude when an Iranian-made nuclear bomb explodes in front of your house... knowing that we could have prevented it but didn't have the backbone to do what's right when we had the chance?
PJ -
I am perfectly fine giving Israel $3 billion, which they invest back in US. But I am not fine giving over $17 billion that they spend on their European villas (Karzai), or bank account (Mubarak and Arafat), or to terrorist MB (Egypt) or weapons they use against us (Pakistan and Afghanistan and Iraq). I will pick Israel over your radical muslim countries anytime.
William B. Travis
President Obama is on the American side. When Israel starts another war, how much are you going to sacrifice? Your life for them? Your kids? Spouse? Someone else? How much are you going to PAY for it with your tax dollars.
Oh wait, my bad... this is just about OBAMA right?
P.S. Bush told Israel if you go into this, you go ALONE. Must only be okay for "BUSH" to have that stance right?
I would change The best friend Israel has, to the only friend it has.
@farideh - i am not fine giving those dollars to either party. They are all warring factions to whom the war machines sells their equipment at the expense of American people.
Also - I do not believe in any philosophy that paints one group of people as superior/virtuous and others as not so good. Be it Germans vs English vs French Or Muslims vs Jews vs Christians or Yankees vs Southerners. I can't buy that kind of logic. I believe in shared destiny for all the people of the world. That is the only way for all of us to be part of the solution. Otherwise we are the problem.
Put all your political donations in your gas tank, at least you know you'll get some mileage out of it.
Finally, Obama stepped foot on Israeli soil---it may look good; hopefully it will be good to have the US as a cooperating Ally again. Obama looks back, and knows he screwed up---during his first Term. He is also worried about his Legacy--no other Pres. has snubbed Israel--
Israel knows to watch Obama, because Obama changes his words every single day--Netayanhu is said to have made some kind of mediocre compromise in the last few months w/Obama---
Obama is getting some good advice from ex President Bill Clinton re: Israel.
How is Obama going to appease Morsi/Egypt, already sending 250 mil dollars, and Fighter 16 jets there---They are the real Enemy, along with Syria, Iran, Libya, Middle East, etc. Obama finally may know it is better to be friends w/Israel when it comes to dealing with Iran, and their Nuclear buildup. Israel will do the job for the United States--that's a good plan--Obama won't be blamed!
Right, and keep up the talk of Judea and Samaria (Israeli names implying ownership of the West Bank by divine order), and you'll have 0 friends. Obama and the majority of Americans are clear: as far as the expansionist policies of Israel, the U.S. is opposed and will not defend Israel in pursuing territorial expansion. Expansionism is THE existential threat Israel faces. The hawks are putting betting the farm on U.S. support, but they are miscalculating.
final assessment; money Vs oil..oil is black gold, sum that up..........
CoRavensFan - It is difficult to understand why you blame only the president for your concerns about tax dollars and how they are spent.
Shar J - who said that I am only blaming the POTUS? Please show me where I made that statement. Or are you just making assumptions? Ultimately he is to blame, whether you want to believe that or not.
Realist - Your wonderful Israeli's are no more than parasites, contributing nothing, but expecting everything. No one is condemning Jews. It is the Zionists and the Israelis themselves, which are the problem. If you love Israel so much, get the f out of America and go live in Israel, along with the banksters and the neocons.
End aid to the parasites. All they care about is our money, money, money and our weapons.
Yea...well, the US ain't the problem. Israel has no greater enemy that Israel. THAT is the problem.
So Ed Schultz goes by the screen name StarSailing on here. I wonder how long until he only post on the weekends as well.
This is where Ralph (see #1.50) and those who vote in favor of his posts, get their information from:
Jeff Rense
"Jeff Rense is an American conspiracy theorist and alternative edicine woo-peddler who resembles something close to an aging hybrid of John tossel and Michael Bolton. He is the proprietor of the website Rense.com and as his own show on satellite radio, making him something of a poor man's Alex Jones. Topics covered include the New World Order, 9/11 conspiracy theories, UFOs, Holocaust denial, Jewish conspiracy theories, Big Pharma conspiracies, AIDS denial (Rense's single book is entitled AIDS Exposed), and much more. The crank factor of Rense's show and web@!$%#e rates fairly close to Whale.to.
Racism
Rense is not as loath as many of his conspiracist brethren to let his anti-Semitism shine through. His site contains a disclaimer that he does not endorse anti-Semitism and he has used the tired excuse of not being against the Jews, but opposed to the Zionists in his explanation of his position on this issue.[1] Naturally, this is all while he and his site's contributors spew all the usual anti-Semitic canards. In addition to its hosting of just about every conspiracy theory on the black helicopter and militia circuit, the
site commonly features "artwork"[2] by anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist David Dees,[3] as well as cross-postings and links to anti-Semitic and white supremacist hate sites.
Rense has featured notorious neo-Nazi crank Ernst Zündel on his show[4] and rense.com features copious amounts of material supportive of him.[5] Rense has also given a platform to white supremacist and Holocaust denier Ted Pike, who believes that Auschwitz never existed.[6]
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Jeff_Rense
Just another world tour for Obama. He will demand Israel make peace with the Arab/Islamic nations and for sure not to protect themselves against Iran. Peace for Israel only means giving up more land and as Obama does, bow down to Muslims. Kick this idiot out of your holy land. Shun him as he has been doing your country for years. A good place to start would be to get rid of the Dome atop the rock, as you can see how far it got your country by letting them build this dome upon a holy sight that was meant for "all" to visit. I support Israel and God is definitely with you. Stay strong.
Basil - Can you disprove anything in the Rense link, which I posted? That is the question. Rense talks about the TAPI gas pipeline and Israel's role. He claims that Israel owns the gas rights to the gas which is to be transported to India via the TAPI gas pipeline. Is he wrong?
Your method seems to be to discredit the messenger, instead of the message.
Kennyboys,
America is not as "broke" as the GOP would have us to believe. Our wealth is unfairly favored, distributed and routed so that the wealthy can continue to grab the Lion's share of the spoils. The right wing can find money to start wars and give cash rebates to the kings in corporate America. However, through various social safety nets when it is time to help the elderly, the disabled, the vet, the single mom and the struggling middle class to survive - all of a sudden the Republicans clamor that the country is BROKE!
...the Right always deals from the bottom of the deck...
There is no mention in any reputable source of Israel's role in the TAPI
"The Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline (also known as Turkmenistan–Afghanistan–Pakistan–India Pipeline, TAP or TAPI) is a proposed natural gas pipeline being developed by the Asian Development Bank.[1][2][3] The pipeline will transport Caspian Sea natural gas from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan into Pakistan and then to India. The abbreviation comes from the first letters of those countries. Proponents of the project see it as a modern continuation of the Silk Road.[4][5] The Afghan government is expected to receive 8% of the project's revenue.[citation needed]GAIL India may become a part of TAPI project.[6]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Afghanistan_Pipeline
I challenge you to provide reputable links to your outlandish claims.
Israel is merely a rationalization for your inbred, obsessive hatred of the Jews, and whether you verbally attack the Jews, Israel, or the concept of Zionism is, therefore, immaterial. Your unitary focus on Israel, to the exclusion of all other countries that do or would behave similarly or even worse under similar circumstances, exposes you for the fundamentally hypocritical, bigoted, intolerant, and hateful person that you are. But make no mistake about it, the Jewish people will continue to fight the likes of you and will ultimately prevail because we are, and always have been, on the side of the righteous.
The above is a response to Ralph (#1.87). Ralph: I don't have to disprove anything. Since you posted this rubbish, you should prove it, which you have consistently failed to do.
For those who are as sick of the mainstream media's failure to report objectively as I am, including burying the stories that might be negative to King Obama, please see the following link:
http://www.mrc.org/action/stop-censoring-the-news
When you wait to the last minute to do everything, of course there is still time. But that is not a very good strategy, just look what happened with the sequester. There should be room left for error or unforeseen events. This is not some college exam or term paper you can wait until the last minute to study for or write. Hopefully somebody over there will grab Obama by those big ears he has and shake his head until he wakes up.
Not to mention the fact that the groundwork for an agreement is not even in place and "negotiations have utterly stalled.
Israel does not have a friend with Obama. But I guess Israel will have to go to their Jewish brothers and sisters here in the US, which overwhelmingly voted for Obama, and ask them why they threw their own people under the bus.
Obama has no intention of stopping Iran - Netanyahu needs to do what he needs to do. Don't wait for Obama - he could care less what happens to Israel!
North Korea threatened to nuke the USA and they do have nuclear weapons yet obama does NOTHING. So, in reguards to Iran even if they get a nuke obama will do NOTHING as he is a wimpy inept baffoon.
Of course there is, there is always time for communications, good for you Mr. President.
Netanyahu is a prodigy of the war-mongering American republicans, all he see's is dollar signs for his military industry portfolio.
Netanyahu want's WAR, and many of America's republicans want it to, or else their lobbyists handlers for the mega-rich, will make sure they are out of office.
Obama......YAWN....he's not going to do anything and never does. It's his hallmark. Iran, North Korea....no matter. He never does anything except point fingers. Pathetic.
President Obama answer the Questions:
What more of your Failed Foreign Policies that Caused the US And US Allies Loss of Strategic Resources Worldwide for the current US Standard of Living and Future Alternative Energy; US And US Allies Loss of Strategic Locations Worldwide; US And US Allies Key and Strategic US Allies Worldwide.
1. Obama's US And US Allies Loss of Strategic Resources Worldwide for the current US Standard of Living and Future Alternative Energy:
a. Obama's Loss of the Decades to Centuries of Iraqis Oil that could have paid for the US And US Allies Liberation of Iraq of the Decades of Centuries to the Allies of the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, the Chinese and Russian Federation. This Obama Loss made the Libyan Oil of Strategic Importance to the US European Allies.
b. Obama's Loss of the Mineral Wealth of Afghanistan to the Ally of the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, the Chinese, China Metallurgical Group.
2010. The Chinese Government starts Restriction of Exports external to China of Mineral Resouces (especially those needed for US High Tech) they now Control Worldwide due to President Obama's Failed Foreign Policies. Many US Corporations like Apple, must have their Products Made In China or at the very least buy the Made In China Components for Assembly at the US.
c. Obama's Loss of the Libyan Oil to the Ally of the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, the Chinese as negotiated by Qatar with President Obama's "Libyan Rebels" of Al Quada Saudi Arabia (AQ), Al Quada Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Al Quada Syria (AQS), Al Quada Yemen (AQY), Hezbollah, Al Quada Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), etc. becoming Ansar Al Shariah (Ansar Alshariaa) attacking the rest of Africa.
d. Obama's Loss of the Radioactive Materials Sources at Africa to the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran.
2. Obama's Loss of Strategic Locations Worldwide
a. Obama's Loss of Iraq to the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran. US KICKED OUT OF IRAQ as No more Negotiations with President Obama nor SOS Clintion, especially NO Status Of Forces Agreement, nor renewal of the former President Bush Status Of Forces Agreement (Obama is not Trusted Ally Bush; so no Negotiations).
1). The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran no longer stuck between US and US Allies Military Forces at Iraq and Afghanistan.
2). No US And US Allies Military Forces Control of the Fundamentalist Islamic Autonomous Kurdistanis Region of Northern Iraq, Syria, Southern Turkey, Northwestern Iran, the location that the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran Special Forces, Quds, has been/is training, arming and funding Millions of Holy Warriors of Islam in Asymmetric Warfare (aka Special Warfare, Insurgency) to Fight the US And US Allies, Overthrow US Allies Established Government (by starting Civil Wars as Asymmetric Warfare Insurgency).
3). Obama's Loss of Iraq, a threat to Nations Bordering Iraq.
a). US Ally Saudi Arabia pissed because now they have a Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran controlled Nation of Iraq at their Northern US Ally Saudi Arabian Border.
US Ally Saudi Arabia, "President Obama gave Iraq to Iran as a Gift on a Golden Platter".
US Ally Saudi Arabia now has a bunch of Holy Warriors of Islam controlled by Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran on their Southern US Ally Saudi Arabian Border.
US Ally Saudi Arabia now has the Fundamentalist Islamic Muslim Brotherhood Ally of the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran to their West (Egypt).
US Ally Saudi Arabia has a stronger enemy Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran as Fully Supported by the Chinese and Russian Federation to the East.
US Ally Saudi Arabia is/has been surrounded by their life long Enemies and their Enemy's Allies, Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran due to President Obama's Failed Foreign Policies.
b). US Ally Turkey. Threatened by President Obama's Support of the "Syrian Rebels" thru US Ally Saudi Arabia, US Ally Kuwait, etc. the "Syrian Rebels" being Al Quada Iraq, Al Quada Syria and the Kurdistanis PKK, HPG, KGK that want to seize US Ally Turkey all of Southern Turkey, Syria (President Obama was sending Guantanamo Prisoner to), Northern Iraq, and part of Northwestern Iran to form the Nation of Kurdistan.
The Kurdistanis PKK, HPG, KGK have previously stated their Life Long Goal of seizing by armed force US Ally Turkey's Southern Regions.
President Obama's "Syrian Rebels" using those areas in US Ally Turkey, Northern Iraq, as "Safe Havens" to attack Syria; then flee back to when attacked, to rearm, rest, then attack again without any possible retaliations from the Syrian Military, as Asymmetric Warfare.
US Military withdrawn from former US Ally Iraq redeployed to the Southern Borders of Syria to protect the "Syrian Rebels" and the "Syrian Rebels Safe Havens".
President Obama's funnelling of funds (US Citizen's Money) to US Ally Saudi Arabia, US Ally Kuwait, to arm and fund the "Syrian Rebels".
c). Syria. see b). US Ally Turkey above.
President of Syria, warned President Obama and SOS Clinton of "Increased Al Quada Activities" of Al Quada Iraq, Al Quada Syria, etc.,
President Obama starts name-calling "Dictator", President Obama starts with his Democrazy speeches "The Syrian People" (and not the truth of Al Quada Iraq, Al Quada Syria, Kurdistanis PKK, HPG, KGK).
President Obama stops sending his Guantanamo Prisoners to Syria.
b. Loss of US Ally Egypt, Egypt's Strategic Location, as negotiated by the Fundamentalist Islamic Muslim Brotherhood with the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran before President Obama's supported "Egyptian Revolution", as US Ally President Mubarak warned President Obama about "Increased Al Quada Like Activities" with President Obama immediately chopping all US Assistance, US Support, and US Funding. Previously, US Ally Egypt, US Ally Saudi Arabia and US Ally Israel warned President Obama that the "Peace Flotillas" were those Holy Warriors of Islam returning from the Fundamentalist Islamic Autonomous Kurdistanis Region after being trained, armed and funded by the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Special Forces, Quds.
1). Loss of Strategic Access to the Suez Canal, Access by the Fundamentalist Islamic ShiaRepublic of Iran. On demand of the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran can have the Fundamentalist Islamic Muslim Brotherhood deny access for the US And US Allies Transport Ships and Vessels required to supply the US And US Allies Military Forces at the "Middle East". These Commercial andMerchant Marine (Reserve USN) Supply Vessels must go the long way around Africa.
The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's intent of placing 21st Century Landbased Long Range Hypersonic Anti Ship Missile Batteries "To Protect the Suez Canal" and the 21st Century Intergrated Anti Aircraft/ABM Batteries to protect the Iranian 21st Century Landbased Long Range Hypersonic Anti Ship Missile Batteries and the Russian Federation and Chinese Military Forces that provide Maintenance.
2). Egypt Strategic to Attack US Ally Libya, using the Asymmetric Warfare Strategy of using Egypt as a "Libyan Rebel Safe Haven", attack US Ally Libya then flee to Egypt so the US Ally Libyan Military Forces cannot pursue the "Libyan Rebels" without violating the Sovereign Nation of Egypt's Borders.
3). The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran negotiated with the Fundamentalist Islamic Muslim Brotherhood for bases at Egypt to provide support (supply, rockets, bomb making materials, weapons, ammunition, etc.) to the Army of Islam Gaza, Hamas Foreign Fighters, etc..
4). The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran negotiated with the Fundamentalist Islamic Muslim Brotherhood to have Iranian IRBM bases with 21st Century The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran 21st Century Integrated Anti Aircraft/ABM Batteries with Iranian Military as Security, as well as the required Russian Federation and Chinese Military Forces to maintain these 21st Century Weapons Systems.
5). Egypt's Strategic Mediterranean Ports at Alexandria Egypt, including used to attack the US European Allies, and US Ally Israel by Sea.
6). Egypt's Strategic Mediterranean Ports at Alexandria Egypt, to stop all Commercial Vessels from going to US Ally Israel Sea Ports.
c. Loss of US Ally Libya. Previously, SOS Condeleezza Rice negotiated the terms and strict conditions for the US/UN/US European Allies Sanctions and Embargoes (including Financial) to be lifted and for President Gaddaffi to become a US Ally.
1). Libya is Strategic to Attack the rest of Africa. With the Holy Warriors of Islam seizing the Decades of US Ally Libya's Military Weapons at the Hight Razma Military Depot Benghazi, as to why the "Libyan Civil War" Movement started at Benghazi. Before the "Libyan Civil War" fully supported by President Obama, US Ally President Gaddaffi reported "Increased Al Quada Activities" aS his Libyan Military were fighting the "Libyan Rebels" attacking from Egypt. President Obama starts his name-calling "Dictator Killing His Own People", and immediately stops all US Assistance, US Support, etc., and cuts off all US Diplomatic Communications previously established by SOS Condeleezza Rice.
2). Mediterranean Sea Ports closer to attack US European Allies.
3). Mediterranean Sea Ports to stop any US European Allies Civilian Commercial Vessels (Oil Supertankers, Cargo Container Ships, etc.).
d. Loss of the US Military Logistics Support Bases and MQ/RQ (Armed and Reconnaissance drone) Bases at Pakistan.
1). The US And US Allies must withdraw their Military Forces and Aid Workers by 2014 from Landlocked United Nation's Mission Afghanistan.
2). The Southern "Old Silk Road" going from China, Northern Pakistan, Northern Afghanistan, Northern Iran, Northern Iraq, Southern Turkey, Syria, became the Holy Warriors of Islam Super Freeway.
And the Old Silk Road main route for Chinese Organized Crime (about a million members), shipments of most of the drugs from Afghanistan.
This is also the main route for the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran to receive 21st Century Chinese Weapons Systems, just as the Caspian Sea is the main route for 21st Century Russian Federation Weapons Systems getting to the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran (as to why 2013 Iran just deployed a 21st Century Frigate to the Caspian Sea to protect Iranian Commercial Shipping (Container Ships) going to and from the Russian Federation Caspian Sea Ports).
3. President Obama's Loss of Key and Strategic US Allies Worldwide.
a. Former US Ally Government of Iraq, lost to the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran.
b. Former US Ally Government of Egypt, lost to the Fundamentalist Islamic Muslim Brotherhood as supported (previously trained by the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Special Forces, Quds, at the Fundamentalist Islamic Autonomous Kurdistanis Region of Northern Iraq).
c. Former US Ally Government of Libya, lost to the Fundamentalist Islamic Libyan Islamic Fighting Group as the recognized Legitimate Government of Libya by President Obama, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group were those killing US Military and US Ally Coalition Forces at Iraq.
d. Former US Ally Government of Yemen, lost to the Fundamentalist Islam of Yemen as backed by Al Quada Yemen, Al Quada Arabian Peninsula, etc. also trained armed and funded by the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Special Forces, Quds, at the Fundamentalist Islamic Autonomous Kurdistanis Region of Northern Iraq). The Holy Warriors of Islam reopen the Holy Warriors of Islam Training Camps on the Northern Yemen Border to attack US Ally Saudi Arabia.
e. Under threat of Iranian Military Forces, and creating an uprising of the Fundamentalist Islamic Citizens of Pakistan, the Government of Pakistan, no more negotiations with President Obama nor SOS Clinton for the US Military Logistics Support Bases, nor MQ/RQ Bases at Pakistan required to support the United Nation's Mission at Landlocked Afghanistan, limited access to the Pakistanis Sea Ports and Pakistanis Khyber Pass.
f. South American and Central American Governments deals with the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran to build ICBM/IRBM underground nuclear attack proof Missile Bases at South and Central Americas. And shipments of tons (containers) of weapons, ammunition, etc. to the South and Central American Governments of Russian Federation and Chinese (copies of Russian Federation) weapons, ammunition, military equipment, etc.. Also agreements with the South and Central American Governments to allow the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's shipments (containers) of weapons, ammunition, military equipment, etc. to be smuggled into Mexico for the Mexican Drug Cartels. President Ahmadinejad visits to South and Central America's 2010, 2011, 2012 to observe his Foreign Policies "Progress" (construction of ICBM/IRBM Silos).
g. In the works, the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, attempts to get the Nations of Qatar, U.A.E., Oman, etc. to become Permanent Allies of the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran, to enable the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran to control all Sea Vessels at the Strait of Hormuz, as the Strategic Economic means to defeat US Ally Saudi Arabia source of US Allies Oil, US Ally Kuwait source of US Allies Oil, US Ally Bahrain (USN Fifth Fleet)(Iran tried the Asymmetric Warfare (Insurgency to start a Civil War) method and failed with US Ally Saudi Arabia Military going into US Ally Bahrain),etc.. And Nations of Yemen, Djibouti, Eritrea, Sudan, etc. US AndUS Allies MUST GO the long way around Africa for any Sea Vessels.
What Nation's Government would Trust a President that F**ked his own Citizens:
1. President Obama signs his January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts as the Elimination of US Citizen's Constitutional Rights, Due Process of Law, Bill of Rights, etc. with: Expanded Presidential Powers to circumvent the "Will of the People" US Congress (both Houses), Preemptive Detentions of US Citizens, US Military Use of Deadly Force Against US Citizens, expansion of US Military Tribunals renamed US Military Commissions (Government Appointed Legal Defense with no access to "Classified" Witnesses nor "Classified" Evidence, Government Prosecution determines what is "Classified"). Expansion of Guantanamo. Use of "Black Sites" (as demanded stopped by US Ally President Gaddaffi, US Ally Government of Pakistan, US Ally President Karzai, President Assad, many US Ally Eastern European Nations, etc.). Monitoring and Censorship of All US Communications. Without Warrant Mandatory Cooperation of All US Communications Providers. Inclusion of the previously ruled Unconstitutional US Senate S.1959 and US House of Representatives H.R.1955, aka the George Orwell 1984 Thought Crimes Laws, in that the Thought written or witnessed verbal is the Felony Crime, not only the activities as a Result.
President Obama shown signing into US Laws his January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts during a staged news media event January 22, 2009, 04:38 minutes of 11:55 minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLSeD19m3UE
The President Obama January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts (Plural US Laws) are NOT the same as the President Bush Patriot Act (Singular US Law).
Feds' electronic snooping of Americans up sharply, says ACLU. 2012
http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/technolog/feds-electronic-snooping-americans-sharply-says-aclu-6170914#
2. President Obama demands the spending of $1.7 Trillion (update: $2.1 Trillion, 2013 update $2.5 Trillion) previously not Budgeted for, to get Billions of Corporate Campaign Contributions to keep his President Obama 2008-2009 Campaign Offices open till 2012-2013 Reelection; after Reelection President Obama still needs Billions USDs from the Corporations to keep his 2012-2013 Reelection Offices Open Nationwide to become his renamed 2013 Political Action Committee Offices Open Nationwide (worse than previous ACORN) to push the President Obama "Agendas".
Previously, Presidential Candidate Hillary Clinton filed against Candidate Obama's Violations of US Law, McCain Feingold Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act, as since 2007 he had been receiving Unlimited Corporate Campaign Funds, which President Obama still does in Violation of the US Law, McCain Feingold Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act, getting Fined Thousands USDs while getting Billions from the Corporations. To stop getting Fined, President Obama's Buddy, "Mr.Corporate America" Legal Briefed the US Supreme Court to Rule in favor of Unlimited Corporate Campaign Contributions, before the Citizen's United case made it thru the maze of the US Courts, the US Supreme Court Ruling just in time for President Obama to receive Billions from the Insurance Corporations, Medical Device Corporations, Pharmaceuticals Corporations for his ACA by US Law giving them $67 Billion (Insurance Corporations), $23 Billion (Medical Device Corporations), $20 Billion (Pharmaceuticals Corporations) "for potential losses of profits due to the ACA".
The Democratic Party Controlled US Senate and US House of Representatives attempt to hide President Obama's Demanded Not Previously Budgeted for Spending of $2.5 Trillion that they approved by not creating a US Budget, and continue to create Continuing Resolutions (CRs). Resulting in the "Tea Party" getting elected and demanding a "Balanced Budget".
The Republican Party gets into Control of the US House of Representatives, and demand the stopping of President Obama's previously demanded not Budgeted For Spending of $2.5 Trillion, President Obama refuses, the Democratic Party Controlled US Senate refuse, creating the "Fiscal Cliff".
President Obama July 2011 demands "Across the Board Budget Cuts" to all previously Budgeted for Programs (like Medicare, Social Security, etc. as those programs President Obama lies about as "Entitlements" and not the Mandatory US Citizen's Contributory Trust Funds that they are, and NOT President Obama's "Entitlements".), Projects (like the US Army Corps of Engineers Infrastructure Projects within the US like the Dams, Bridges, Levees, Sea Walls, Earthen Berms (like those that saved homes at New Jersey during Hurricane Sandy), Irrigation Canals (Droughts during President Obama, closure of most of California's Fruit and Vegetable Basket, US Must rely on unsanitary food sources from Mexico, South and Central Americas), Dredging of Streams and Rivers (Flooding and Droughts during President Obama), etc; while President Obama rants US Defense Budget Cuts and Ordered US Military Budget Cuts since April 2009, then lies about demanding the funding of US Infrastructure Projects; chops to the Entitlements and Benefits of the "47%" (2012 update: 49%. 2013 update: 51%); to pay for his previously demanded spending of $2.5 Trillion that was previously not Budgeted For as approved by US Law of the Democratic Party Controlled US Senate and US House of Representatives. President Obama's Demands are given to Jack Lew, Jack Lew gave President Obama's written Demands to Democratic Party Controlled US Senate, specifically Democratic Party Senator Harry Reid, the Democratic Party Controlled US Senate Voted this into US Law, as President Obama's Automatic Sequestration.
3. President Obama continues to rant his "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share" more of the Rich Foreign and US Business Investors flee the US, adding to the Credit Crisis of the Democratic Party Created $60 Trillion to $100 Trillion Global Economic Crisis consisting of the Mortgage Crisis, Wall Street Crisis, Financial Crisis, Banking Crisis, Credit Crisis, etc. by the Democrats elimination of those US Laws that made Illegal the Causes of previous Depressions. Everyone including the Rich Democrats tell President Obama that his "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share" will only fund the US Government for Eight (8) Days at the current Spending.
a. Historically, the Rich Elitist Founding Fathers (most successful Business Owners, or Plantation Owners) refused to pay the British "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share" Stamp Act Taxes.
b. Historically, Candidate Obama did the same thing before "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share", and chased the Richest Person in the World out of the US and taking his Rich Foreign (US) Business Investments out of the US back to Mexico, causing the collapse of many US Small to Large Businesses as part of the Democratic Party Created "Credit Crisis". Resulting in the US Government "Loans" and Bailouts of the Democratic Party Created "Credit Crisis".
c. Historically, Chancellor Hitler's "Rich Jews Own Everything, Loyal German Citizens must take back Germany from the Jews".
d. Historically, the British 1970s "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share", caused the Rich of Britainto flee to India, Ireland, France, etc.. Resulting in the collapses of many of the British Icon Businesses, and the British (Liberal) Government had no experience managing the British Icon Businesses that they took over, resulting in many of them becoming bankrupt and sold to Foreign Nations, like British Icon Business Jaguar sold to Tata Motors of India, resulting in many British Jobs going to those Nations. The British Rich Flee, the Upper Middle Class become the targets of the British Liberal "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share", they too flee Britain, the British Middle Class became the targets of the British "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share". The British Rock Stars Beatles flee the British "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share"; much later on the Queen of England forgives them, and Knights them.
e. The Rich of Greece, Portugal, Italy, etc. fleeing their "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share".
f. Recent events, 2011-2013, the Rich of France fleeing France's "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share".
g. 2013 The Government demanding that their Citizens give the Government 10% of their Savings at Cyprus (controlled by the Liberal Greek Government). The Rich at Cyprus were not stup!d to have their Earned Money at Cyprus for the Government to grab. Now the "Middle Class" becoming the targets of "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share".
Interview of McCullough Nov. 11, 2012. Morley Safer CBS News; McCullough: "We are raising children in America today who are by and large historically illiterate."
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.- George Santayana
Those who do not know history's mistakes are doomed to repeat them. - Sir Edmund Burke
4. President Obama signed into US Law his 2012 NDAA, Indefinite Detentions of US Citizens:
Obama Signs NDAA, ACLU Disgusted 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IeuE16LLDY
5. President Obama attempts to eliminate the US Citizens 2nd Amendment Rights, thru external means by having his Political Appointee US Ambassador to the United Nations demand numerous United Nation's measures. A few of the Democrats state that this is Unconstitutional and join the Republicans to stop President Obama's Unconstitutional Actions.
Democrats Oppose Obama-U.N. Gun Control Treaty
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/07/26/democrats-oppose-obama-un-gun-control-treaty
6. Defintion Fascism - dictatorial movement: any movement, ideology, or attitude that favors dictatorial government, centralized control of private enterprise, repression of all opposition and critism, and extreme nationalism
dictatorial movement - see #1 above.
any movement, ideology, or attitude that favors dictatorial government - President Obama's previous Presidential Actions to Circumvent the "Democratic Process" as the "Will of the People" US Congress.
centralized control of private enterprise - control thru Federal Taxes, Regulations, etc..
repression of all opposition and critism, and extreme nationalism - US Democrats Demanding the Murders of US Citizens of the Republican Party
"President Obama, this is your Army. We are ready to march. Let's take these son of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong," US Labor Union Leader Jimmy Hoffa Junior during President Obama's Reelection Campaign.
President Obama addressed the crowd shortly after US Labor Union Leader Jimmy Hoffa Junior. US Labor Union Leader Jimmy Hoffa Junior not arrested for "Terroristic Threatening of US Citizens", "Conspiracy To Commit the Murder of US Citizens", "Homegrown Domestic Terrorism Against US Citizens", etc..
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/05/jimmy_hoffa_at_obama_event_on_gop_lets_take_these_son_of_bitches_out.html
"Chancellor Hitler, we are your Army. We are ready to march. All Loyal German's Must take back Germany from the Jews". Chancellor Hitler's Brown Shirts, Sturmabteilung, Armed Civilian Paramilitary; and his Political Labor Union, National Socialist German Workers' Party, Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei aka NAZI.
Chancellor Hitler Ordering the elimination of other Political Parties (and did by Armed Force of his armed private Army, 1933), US Democrats demanding the elimination of the Republican Party.
7. Refusal of President Obama to listen to his "Experts" resulting in the Unnecessary Deaths of US Citizens of the US Military, and US Citizens Worldwide.
a. Afghanistan, General McKiernan. President Obama's Demanded General McKiernan Letter of Resignation. General McKiernan creates his General McKiernan War Plan to Win Afghanistan requiring 90,000 additional US Military, President Obama refuses, and after General McKiernan Resigns as Demanded by President Obama, President Obama renamed the General McKiernan War Plan to the Obama War Plan to Win Afghanistan. Since April 2009 President Obama as Commander In Chief Orders the US Military Budget Cuts while the US Military is fighting Two Wars (Iraq and Afghanistan) and President Obama's Secret Wars.
b. Afghanistan, General McChrystal. President Obama's Demanded General McChrystal Letter of Resignation. President Obama as Commander In Chief Orders General McChrystal to implement the Obama War Plan to Win Afghanistan with only 1/3rd of the required additional 90,000 US Military requested by General McChrystal, President Obama only sent 30,000, this Fails resulting in the Unnecessary Deaths of US Citizens of the US Military and Canadian Military Forces, President Obama Blames General McChrystal. Seeing this tremendous Failure President Obama's Political Appointees on General McChrystal's High Level Staff start saying "This Administration Does Not Know What It Is Doing".
c. Secretary Of Defense Gates. Submits his Letter of Resignation in Protest to President Obama's Orders. President Obama as Commander In Chief Ordered US Military chopped greater than 50%, while still at War.
d. Secretary of Defense Penetta. Submits his Letter of Resignation to President Obama "to go work on his (Walnut) Farm with a different kind of Nut".
e. Secretary of State Clinton, thrown under the President Obama Reelection Bus,
1). after President Obama Ordered "Low US Presence at Libya" to deny increased US Military Security at the US Consulate Benghazi as recommended since before the "Libyan Civil War" by US Army Special Forces LTC Wood and requested by US Ambassador Stevens. SOS Clinton's "Funding was not the issue" (it was President Obama's Ordered, "Low US Presence at Libya", the US Military Forces of General Ham of US AFRICOM available, at Italy, Sicily, etc..).
2). President Obama supported the "Libyan Rebels" of Al Quada Saudi Arabia (AQ), Al Quada Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Al Quada Syria (AQS), Al Quada Yemen (AQY), Hezbollah, Al Quada Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), etc. that went to US Ally Libya to Murder US Ally President Gaddaffi the Collaborator to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers. They became Ansar Al Shariah (Ansar Alshariaa). And the recognized by President Obama Legitimate Government of Libya.
3). President Obama's Reelection Campaign Inflamed the over 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers Worldwide to Violence with his "Osama Bin Laden Is Dead, GM Is Alive".
In response to President Obama's "Osama Bin Laden Is Dead, GM Is Alive":
The over 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers Worldwide respond: "Obama Declared War on Muslims (Islam)", "Obama Obama, We Are All Osama".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udSEcQbM308
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pJGX1JzyFc
Ansar Al Shariah attacks the US Consulate at Benghazi to coincide with the Greatest Defeat of the Great Satan (US), the 9/11 2001 Attacks, by their Greatest Holy Warrior of Islam Superstar, Osama Bin Laden.
f. Libya, US AFRICOM, General Ham. President Obama's Demanded General Ham's Letter of Resignation, as General Ham during the over 7 hour attack of the US Consulate Benghazi demanded President Obama's Presidential Authorization to use the US Military Forces less than 2 hours away of Operation Odyssey Dawn and Unified Protector to rescue the US Citizens at the US Consulate Benghazi; President Obama as Commander In Chief Orders "Low US Presence at Libya".
g. Since 2010 US Ally Saudi Arabia, requests, begs, pleads with President Obama and US Ally Israel to attack the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran BEFORE they finish construction of their Underground Nuclear Attack Proof Facilities UNDERNEATH the Iranian Mountains (similar to US NORAD, and USSR Ural Mountain Complex).
h. President Obama refuses to listen to the Facts (verified Intelligence) about the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran increased Activities to Develop the Iranian Nuclear Program.
The "Countdown" decreasing rapidly from 10 years, 6 years, to the current President Obama 1 year. What next President Obama will say Months, Days.
i. President Obama refuses to listen to his own Vice President Biden.
Vice President Biden, January 17, 2013 “This isn’t just about guns,” Biden said on Thursday at the U.S. Conference of Mayors in Washington, D.C. “It’s about the coarsing of our culture.
“Yes, that’s what I said, the coarsening of our culture, whether it’s with video games or movies or behavior,” Biden said.
“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it” Chancellor Adolf Hitler.
Jive Talkin Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7oWK5ewpH8
Wow, seems like the whole world is getting a taste of "Hope and Change". But of course, the appeasement will continue until morale improves.
Exactly WHO is he appeasing, oh expert knowledgeable one? Examples, quotes, etc...
Ah yes, the first obama supporter. Oh, giving military equipment to Egypt to shut them up, liberals, now going to Israel to apologize, anyone who disagrees with him. There isn't anything anyone can say that you won't attack, unless of course it's your liberal friends. Nice handle though.
roy
Who gave them the 1st 220 f-16's? You cry about another 4 to 6?
You're speaking of Bush, I know, the same ole mantra. Let's not forget Clinton.
Oh absolutely. Ah yes - so let's instead go the way of Mc Stain and Graham Crackhead: bomb, invade and occupy another Muslim Country, spend a few trillion MORE dollars, get forty or fifty thousand MORE of our guys killed and have the people there hate us MORE. Yeah, that's it.
NOW THERE'S a BRILLIANT idea!!!!!
*hands up in the air*
*eyes roll*
*face palm*
Like the millions spent on bombing Libya and sending drones to Niger?
Hmmmm...
Obama was so quick to visit egypt in 2009 yet it took him till 2013 to visit Israel?
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Hot ticket....
exaggerate much?? Bet if you ever did any type of online dating your contact spent a lot of time looking for the person you said you were.
BTW - Obama has already publicly stated that he wasn't afraid of using military force against Iran if they continued down the road of developing a nuclear weapon.
Roy....
Here's a simple question. Which is bigger: millions or trillions? You've got 5 minutes to come up with an answer, and you're not allowed to google the answer.
Go ahead Barry.... lie to the Israelis..... see where that gets you......
The Israeli slime balls are going to present a petition to Obama, signed by 200,000 Israeli parasites, to release Jonathan Pollard, the Israeli spy who caused the US the most damage of any spy in history.
Israel, bargained away Pollards treachery, by giving the information, which revealed vulnerabilities in our defense systems, to Russia at the height of the cold war. Pollard also compromised the lives of agents in the Soviet Union.Those agents lost their lives.
Israeli leaders made the deal with Russia, so the Russians would allow increased Jewish immigration to Israel. For that act, Israel chanced having the Russians destroy America with nuclear weapons.
Hopefully, Obama will do what all other US presidents have done previously, which is to tell Netanyahu to shove his petition up his a$$. Let Pollard rot in a US prison for the rest of his traitorous life. If released, he would be welcomed as a hero in Israel.
Israel is no friend of the USA. Our enemies treat us better than Israel.
Roy........Nah! They won't get it, until Israel gives them a dramatic demonstration of "Nuclear Fission 101." Screwing with Israel is like standing under a Hornet's nest, naked and beating on it with a stick. The Jews have plenty of those really big fireworks. Once they get started, I hope they turn that whole damned desert into a glass parking lot! That little weasel, Akminiblowjob is just begging to be vaporized! So is "Piggy" in North Korea. He needs a Nuclear haircut!
1) I'm a backer of Israel, but yes, Pollard is a traitor and should have been shot. I do, in fact, hope that Obama tells Israel to stick their petition where the sun doesn't shine.
2) Our enemies treat us better than Israel? Hardly- Pollard and the USS Liberty (Yes, I brought that up) are decades old incidents. The latest IED bombing in Iraq/Astan wasn't more than a week ago (and I don't care when you are reading this). Muslim Brotherhood- the duly elected government of Egypt, which WE helped oust the former dictator of (who, if I recall correctly, was the first one to agree to peace with Israel) is the government which made a big stink about the video which lead to Benghazi. Even if you want to claim that Israelis cheered 9/11, it was because they thought (mistakenly so) that it was their version Pearl Harbor day, that they were Britain, Russia, China, and the Americans were inally coming to whip some @$$ and bring a big ol' nasty hammer down on the Muslims. I can't say they are the cause of all current era wars/conflicts, but they are today's Nazi's. We just had a president who was more concerned with his legacy ($7 billion on his "library" to ensure "history remembered him correctly") and fixing his father's screwup than actually accomplishing something. F***** politicians. And I'm not an Obama supportor. He's a f***** liar too. I know, we're both from Chicago. Chicago puts out some of the worst politicians ever (they don't call us the Windy City for our high winds).
Remember the USS Liberty & Jonathan Pollard, Sure Israel is our friend !!!
Stop the 18 to 20 Billion they get each year in foreign aid in U.S. tax payers money and see how long the friendship last !!!
Israel are back stabbers, let them fend for themselves !!!
Israel does not have a friend with Obama. But I guess Israel will have to go to their Jewish brothers and sisters here in the US, which overwhelmingly voted for Obama, and ask them why they threw their own people under the bus.
Obama has no intention of stopping Iran - Netanyahu needs to do what he needs to do. Don't wait for Obama - he could care less what happens to Israel!
My kids are half Jewish so you have to know I love Jews. BUT, I'm really sick and tired of the tail wagging the dog relationship we have with israel.
vanjonesie
I don't think you and others get it about nuking our enemies in the mid east. Do you have any grasp about how much radiation damage will be done to the entire region?
Probobly not.
Also, one more nuclear bomb goes off as a weapon anywhere, it will start a cascade effect that could wipe out much of humanity.
how the hell is he gonna fix anything, when he can't have someone smart enough around him to put diesel in a diesel engine, instead of gas!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm tired of it all. It sickens me to hear politicians talking about millions of dollars being used to fund military operations. Don't we spend enough on our own rather than to be funding other peoples war. I just want to live in a country where 200 million is being spent to help its own people. Don't get me wrong i'm thankful to be an American, but we kid ourselves with our self-righteousness, I want the world to be a more peaceful place, and i do feel sorry for the plight the Jewish people go through, but when we live in a world where Kim kardashian can lose a 5,000 dollar ear ring while swimming, and a majority of the world is still uneducated and rely heavily on religion to explain the matters of the universe, I can't say in full honesty that theres a great deal of hope.
Reiteration of my post yesterday:
The results of the "meeting" will not change Mr. Obama's position:
1. Give the Iranians MORE TIME.
2. Give Palestine more land.
Has O'bama tried bowing to Achhkkkkmadinajad?
Has Kornfed been bowing to the greedy rich 1%?
starsailing
Only when I am certain there are no new castrati hanging around. One must avoid unintended consequenses
We can only hope Obama waits long enough for Iran to develop a nuke and drop the first one on Wash DC instead of Israel. Then all the current bozos will be gone and we can start over again.
As usual, our idiot president is on a different clock than the rest of the world. Anybody who believes his stupid statements is just as stupid as he is.
This idiot has no clue about foreign policies at all. Well, just another jack-ass Democrat from Chicago.
What is he going to do ask Iran to buy some bonds so stupid Liberals can continue the enslavement of this Nation? Good thing we left Iraq not like we would want to lob bombs from next door. Yes Obama is a economic genius and a military wonder brilliant! I feel totally safe with this political hack at the wheel. Why not wait until Iran actually can hurl a nuke that would be the best time to attack them omg he is so smart.
Obama will still be calling for more diplomacy while he is trying to find his way thru the rubble after they attack the US. He is all talk and has no intentions of any action.
kkkwilson....so why didn't you have Bush just blow the hell out of them while he was attacking everyone else for war profits?........Oh that's right...he is a quitter.........
Who's really a threat, North Korea or Iran... Go...
What has Iran done since we amplified the ultimatum talk? Pretty much boasted its defenses because what can a country constantly under pressure do?
What did Russia do when we put missiles in Turkey? Exactly. Learn from your history boys and girls.
How about March 2003?
Stop banging the war drums or you'll find this war in your own home.
I certainly hope Mr. Hope and Change grovels appropriately before the leaders of Israel. For the last thirty or so years that's one of the indispensable things that every president has to do.
Eulogy Israeli Foreign Minister (and former general), Moshe Dayan delivered for a Jew killed by Arabs on the Gaza border in 1956: "Let us not heap accusations on the murderers," he said. "How can we complain about their deep hatred for us? For eight years they have been sitting in the Gaza refugee camps, and before their very eyes, we are possessing the land and the villages where they and their ancestors have lived. We are the generation of colonizers, and without the steel helmet and the gun barrel we cannot plant a tree and build a home."
In April 1969, Dayan told the Jewish newspaper Ha'aretz: "There is not one single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."
Someone else said this"...Because of the Holocaust, "anti-Semitism" is such a powerful instrument of emotional blackmail that it effectively pre-empts rational discussion of Israel and its conduct. It is for this reason that many good people can witness daily evidence of Israeli inhumanity toward the "Palestinians' collective punishment," destruction of olive groves, routine harassment, judicial prejudice, denial of medical services, assassinations, torture, apartheid-based segregation, etc. -- yet not denounce it for fear of being branded "anti-Semitic." To be free to acknowledge Zionism's racist nature, therefore, one must debunk the calumny of "anti-Semitism." "
Obama needs to tell Netanyahu to go pound sand and kick the state of Israel to the curb. I am tired of AIPAC and JINSA trying to use their influence over Congress and the POTUS to determine American foreign policy in the middle east.
Amedinijhad is an annoying yapping mutt but he has no real power in Iran and he will be replaced in a few months. Israel is the problem in the Middle East and Iran only wants a nuclear weapon because they know that neither Israel or the US will mess with them if they are a member of the nuclear club. The Iranian Supreme Council that holds power in Iran are not dumb men and they know that using that weapon in an offensive role will result in retaliatory strikes that will certainly destroy their country but the idea of them having it will give them the proverbial big dog in their yard.
why do we try to please the Israelis ..these people have never done anything for the USA except take money and then criticise whoever our president is .. time to quit backing these freeloaders that are trying to get our country into another war so they can make more money.. Obama said yesterday that Israel is our strongest alli and best friend I guess Canada England and the rest of Europe are just hohum allies and friends .. let the israelis fight there own war ..of course congress wont let that happen they depend a lot on American Jews campaign funds
Obama has perfected the "lead from behind" policies.
I served in the Army. I've never been a war-hawk because I know what happens to our young men and women, but we have reached the point where no sanctions are working on either Syria, Iran, or North Korea. Time is fast approaching to make the decision to act. The world can not continue to have Iran or North Korea threaten to attack or annihilate other Nations. We can no longer allow radicals to control the Middle East and Africa. They spring up like weeds, create civil war, and then terrorize free thinkers that try to resist.
Just look at Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Lebanon, Turkey, Egypt, Syria, and North Africa, not to mention Somalia.
The Arab world has since Israel became a Nation set about to destroy it. The Israelis have hampered peace themselves with their greed for more land. But putting that aside their destruction is imminent if we continue to ignore the signs of war, not just troops on the ground but Nuclear War.
We've listened to world leaders telling us that we can negotiate with these Nations. President Obama, like many Presidents before him believe the threat of our power can bring peace to these Nations. His advisers think threats and sanctions will diminish the will of terror States. The people leading those States aren't concerned with their people, they want to dominate the World and I believe will stop at nothing to do so. I don't want my grand children bowing to some religious radical or live under Sharia rule or for that matter Christian rule. I want them to be free as our Constitution guarantee's.
I have no doubt that we are hated by most of the world, but we seem to stand alone trying to keep peace around the globe. That has cost us dearly. Europe has to stand up and face the facts. Terrorism can not be allowed to exist. On this, I am with McCain and Graham, we have to act before we face the ultimate challenge of Nuclear Weapons.
I'm generally fairly liberal on most issues we face, but on this issue it is much more serious than illegal immigrants or social programs tor the elderly and poor. Unless we face this head on we won't have to worry about budgets and deficits. This sounds fatalist, but we see every day the gains radicals are making across the world. Will we wake up when our doors are being kicked in???
Roy... You pathetic little twit. Go crawl back under your rock you anti-Semitic @!$%#. Can't wait to hear your bitch ass say that our enemies treat us better after they start suicide bombing us.
send the Palestinians back to Jordan, nuke iran, nuke Syria, and let the muslims know that we are through fooling around with them...... they are the problem in the entire world today.... involved in virtually every single war going on today... and there are about 100 wars going on right now... nuke them and the world would be a much better place....
Oh no, we can't do that. obama would be betraying his faith. After all phase 1 of his plan is in effect - betraying America. I can read it now - "give me one example of how obama has betrayed America"? I don't have the time or the space to list all of the examples.
I see now what it is I miss about the cold war: we all knew that using nuclear weapons was unthinkable. It should still be that way-- if you care about America and the rest of humanity.
OK vanjonesie, saddle up and get your full battle rattle on, I hope to see you on the front lines of war. Just leave the rest of America's kids out of it.
roy
Or the brain.
Wow,what a lucid response. Did your mommy help you with that one?
Just a reminder for you little Roy....don't eat paste or your Play Dough!
Also Roy, don't play with scissors.
Get out while you can Star.... don't try and take on the twisted scumbags on your own. They do this after any news article concerning the president... and whenever they get all worked up they circle the prey, go in for the jerk and you'd swear they were for same sex marriages... alas, but there's no love in what these right wing nut job lunatics do. Plenty of sucking though, if you're into that bro.
Hi Prober....this is fun......watching the rt winger poop in their diapers under Bush then complain that president Obama hasn't changed the diapers they keep pooping in.......as if it's his fault they pooped in their diapers....Kinda like when a baby does it, you say come over here let's change that diaper...and they take off running......(If you had a kid you would understand the analogy)
When all these wars from the Arab spring started up. They were saying the number of Muslims was close to the same as Christians. I wonder what the numbers look like today? Peace leads to prosperity. This is the only hope for that part of the world. That one day the people will get out of the politics of the place. Put their hearts in their families and make a future for their children. Not a way to die proud.
vanjonsie must be a Zionist, the craziest, most war loving people on the planet. Here is Israels plan for the world if it ever faces losing a war.
Israeli military historian, Martin van Creveld, in
2010 said Israel could find itself one day forced to exterminate the European
continent using all kinds of weapons including its nuclear arsenal if it felt
its demise neared,” and stressed that “Israel also considers Europe a hostile
target.”
“We have hundreds of nuclear warheads and
missiles that can reach different targets in the heart of the European
continent, including beyond the borders of Rome, the Italian capital,” Creveld
said, adding that most of the European capitals would become preferred targets
for the Israeli air force.
He reiterated “Israel’s ability to destroy the
whole world whenever it felt its existence would be doomed to extinction.”
It's always funny watching Obama lie through his teeth. He can't stand Israel and they can't stand him. Then our novelty act of a President says:
"Good to see you … it’s good to get away from Congress,” Obama told Netanyahu, who laughed. So I guess Netanyahu is supposed to take that as a compliment? I'm glad to be away from those I hate the most, so here I am.
That's going to go a long way, what a naive tool. Of course it's good go get away from your parents who hold you accountable and try their best to steer you in the right direction. Pun intended.
Iran, your "islamic republic" of the fanatics has proven to be the war mongering ayatollahs of the world. They have attacked, and continue to attack US interests, meddle in the internal affairs of a dozen sovereign countries, help Assad slaughter women and children and now you want tyhe bomb too. You will get the bomb..... from the air.
Nuke nations filled with innocent civilians huh? vanjonesie maybe we should get rid of people like you who like to compare Obama with Hitler or Communist....which is a total joke to begin with...If we got rid of all of you IT WOULD BE A BETTER WORLD!
Anthony
If you got rid of those you so adamantly hate then, you sir, would starve! Who would pay your governmnet cell phone bill? Where would you get your cheese? Without the likes of those that you dislike, your perfect world would no longer be your perfect world! Better think long and hard what you wish for as you might get exactly your wish(es)
Guinuis---I love the parroted, ignorant fall back lines lazy Repubs (sorry for the redundancy) always use. I know you prefer not to recall the Telecommunications Act of 1996, or the fact that Ronald Reagan created the program providing landlines to poor people (in 1984, look it up), which was modified by Bush II to provide cell phones, but it doesn't mean those things didn't happen. Government cheese was also provided by Reagan. And the biggest laugh is that blue states have always provided more in tax dollars than red states, who receive, of course, more than they contribute, while you mimic Hannity claiming others are supporting us. Too funny.
Netanyahu wants assurances that the U.S. will launch military strikes on Iran if needed, their guts and our blood !!!
That's all this crazy warmonger Israel talks about is War and how much money they can suck out of our broke Nation !!!
Didn't anyone tell Congress that we are one step from Bankruptcy, our is it that they just don't care ???
Obama thinks there's time to talk regarding Iran? Obama thinks there is ALWAYS time to talk. In fact, that's all Obama DOES is talk... except when it comes to raising taxes. I really wish this clown knew how to recognize when talking doesn't work.
The definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over again and expecting a different result. Iran won't respond to talk, diplomatic sanctions, or political pressure.
Do the libtards on this board really think it's ok for Iran to obtain nuclear weapons? And if not, then what do you propose we do to stop it? It will either be an Israeli attack, a US attack, or likely both. Which one do you want?
And if you want it to be an Israeli attack to save our American butts, then perhaps it's time you show Israel some respect.
We can only hope Obama waits long enough for Iran to develop a nuke and drop the first one on Wash DC instead of Israel. Then all the current bozos will be gone and we can start over again.
"A listening tour."
I find where Barry had time to pick his "final Four" but have yet to see him even mention the Marines in Nevada.....
And typical of the LEFTIST media MSNBC...... the incident is not even being reported anymore......
Dead Marines..... ehh, who cares....... Barry made his final pics...... wooohoooooo.... BIG NEWS......
I can't wait until the 33 witnesses to the Benghazi fiasco start to talk....
As soon as Hillary declares she is running the truth about Benghazi will come out and shoot her liberal a$$ down
Keep dreaming.......
although I don't know why you guys all dream in such negative terms. Hate is a bad thing for the soul. You might try looking at the world through something else besides your sh_t colored glasses.
Hey shard....Smell that, you pooped your pants!!!
He went to Israel to get them to give up land didn't you see his map?
Steve, troops, airmen, seamen, often die in training exercises and you never hear about it. It happens. To say each accident should be reported by the President is absurd. I remember President Bush and Rumsfeld not allowing photos of the returning coffins of those killed in Afghanistan and Iraq. I also remember those coffins of the dead returning from Viet Nam. Training exercises do have accidents where people are injured and in rare instances die. Every exercise begins with Safety Instructions just like any job would have. It is awful that such a large number of Marines were killed and I pray for their families. As we learned when I served, you can't take enough precautions when you are dealing with live ordinance. That is why every exercise has numerous Safety Officers. Obviously something or some one failed and caused this accident. I'm sure the Marine Corps is investigating to determine the cause and will address future exercises with even more precautions.
I posted for me a very hawkish post about what I think should be done in the Middle East. Nuclear attacks by us is not the option I had in mind. Destruction of their ability to create such weapons should be taken. However some of you with your off the wall radical posts are no better than the Middle Eastern radicals you rant about. Sending our youth to wage war is very serious to me. I don't wish to see any more die. There are covert ways to eliminate the threat we face and I'm sure they are already planned out. I do not propose all out war and I certainly am not against the Israelis defending themselves as they see fit; after all they are the ones with the greatest risk. So many of you are questioning Obama's seeming lack of initiative, he is weighing the risk and the actions to be taken and I agree that with the News reporting different time frames for when Iran will be Nuclear is not exactly known. This creates doubt as to when to take action. I do feel the time has come to act and I believe Obama has not resolved in his mind that the time is now. I know he is a reasonable man and thinker. The evidence is there and should not be ignored. Some of you need to stop rattling the tools of war, that is unless you are intending to be the first to come face to face with your enemy. War is Hell, Death is Forever!!!
obama will cater to whomever and then turn his back. He's done that in America, Egypt, Iraq - everywhere he goes. Remember the montra of hope and change? Where is it? Taxation, spending, entitlements, etc., etc., etc. Now people around the world are seeing it - J.P. is correct - this path will lead to armageddon.
No, gun slinging redneck Republicans and hard line Israelis can only do that. Obama has a brain, and THINKS his way through problems instead of beating war drums and holding up signs of bombs like a cartoon character, expecting American boys to shed blood and money at their next whim.
Oh, yes, like bombing Libya, sending drones to Niger - all without approval. You know, just like Bush did in Iraq, right?
Poor righty tightys....President should bomb the hell out of this country and that one.....oh president Obama is bombing.....oh the president should get out...oh the president should nuke and get in.......Oh God the president is doing the job people elected him to do and not us little rightys.......Oh no....fear...........
Hey rightys.......monster under your beds....booga booga....monsters in your closet...gonna getcha!
Dang Starsailing, I would really hate to live in your hate filled life! Your mind is so filled with liberal talking points that your ears must ooze slime daily! Why don't you try to argue points instead of pulling out your "insult-speech"! Oh sorry, I cannot say anything against you and the "Great One"! I guess freedom of speech only goes as far as Obama's "hurt feelings"!
Note you only whine and have nothing to debunk...because it's the simple truth that I post....What is really so funny is how you middle class rt wingers are duped to vote for the 1% greedy rich...who make you pay their share of the taxes they should be paying...vote against yourself on every issue as if you share the same tax breaks and lifestyle of the greedy rich.....Now that is funny....voting against yourself because you hate a 1/2 black guy....and women.....our troops and vets....911 first responders, hate the fact the 1% haven't privatized Soc sec , Medicare, and the Post Office so the greedy 1% can put those profits in offshore accounts and not pay taxes.......yeah....you rt wingers got it right...up the ol alley from your 1% gods!
Nobody's perfect starsailing- especially all you leftys who believe that Big Government is the answer to all our problems. The simple truth is, you libs want a 'liberal' existence, yet you support the opposite stance when it comes down to matters of freedom. Small example is that of taking away large drinks containing sugar away from people. Never before has anyone tried so hard to micromanage the lives of people to ths extent. What is laughable is watching these attempts fail - including the assault weapons ban which was a clear violation of our constitutional rights. There is no freedom within the liberal mindset because it's all about control- supreme control in order to establish this universe of perfect order. And yet, like the Spruce Goose, it's too bloated and full of hot air to get up and fly. Sieg Heil!
Casual...
Like the consumate politician Obama does indeed think;
1st term - How many promises to how many groups can I make to get re-elected.
2nd term - I need to secure a legacy for my presidency, maybe obamacare will work out (I tried pushing back implimentation as far as possible), after all, many parts of dodd-franks haven't left the gate yet either.
At least we know that businesses and bernanke decided to muddle along without obama and washington as a whole. Just hope that bernanke has a viable exit strategy for QE because obama sure isn't a friend for growth..
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Pro freedom...
Minor correction, the spruce goose did fly.
Get out while you can Star.... don't try and take on the twisted scumbags on your own! They do this after any news article concerning the president... and whenever they get all worked up they circle the prey, go in for the jerk and you'd swear they were for same sex marriages... alas, but there's no love in what these right wing nut job lunatics do. Plenty of sucking though, if you're into that bro.
Starsailing,
You make no sense...your only purpose on here seems to be to "puff" yourself up. Well you're doing a wonderful job and still NO ONE CARES! Go back to your chair and resume your democratic constitutional right to continue your daily nap and draw your government handout for your invaluable intellect! You are a real winner there sailor boy! This country could never had made it this long without you.
Prober....Just imagine...everyone of these rt wingers posting here .....vote for the 1% party. These poster children actually are voting against their own self interest every election....how crazy is that? At least if some tries to rob me i would fight them back....but these posters let the robbers know who they are and say...come and get it!
Star, you would not know the truth if it was in front of your face. You are a POS Communist. You are not an American at all. You are so far to the left, the right side of your body is working over time to pay for every thing the left side is doing. Go pound sand stupid azz.
Don...
You had me at communist, but why puss out on the word ass?
Who fired up the crazies today? It's like the looney bin forgot to pass out the sedatives for breakfast. All the right wing nut jobs are out in force this morning. Oh it's a Wednesday morning, and none of them work for a living, just live off the free money they get from the government. I tell ya, the republicans are nothing but a bunch of moochers in choir outfits.
Where's Michell and the girls? Did they stop off in Paris for a little shopping?
sleuth23, once againg you have it wrong. It's the left democrats that are on the hand out line. Just ask you god Obama and Moochelle. Hell, they know how to give a party on the tax payers dime. Your right the goverment pays me but it's because I put in my time as a productive person putting away the bad guys. Oh yea, I do carry a gun also and did when I worked. Ya see I put my time in unlike all those democrats at the hand out line with their free five or six phones they got from King Obama
@sleuth23 & starsailing
"The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living"
Donny baby....you must be a relative of ol Joe McCarthy huh?.......hey it is 2013...not 1950....! If you ever tell the truth Donny....I will let you know ...haven't seen it from you yet!
Guinius......repubs screwing up the nation with voter suppression laws, gerrymandering, and voter fraud, and the results of the election disprove your rant. All the profits are going to the top 1% while they pay less and less to the people who do the work...now that is what is really going on....the one person one vote has not been changed yet....but you repubs are doing your damn best to change it to $$$$ over one vote.
I get a kick out of the RWNJs calling liberals "communists" while they are supporting a party which does nothing but protect companies, their CEOs and other executives that send jobs and build factories in China, a communist country.
So, who are the real commie lovers?
Louie.....Hearing rt wingers shout communists....that is a hoot........Next he will be yelling for me to get off his lawn!
There you go again Starsailing. "All the profits are going to the top 1% while they pay less and less to the people who do work. You mean like Obama? I am a relative of President James Monroe and also related to a King of England, so what is your point? When I called you a communist, you proved that to every on here in your last statement. You want to take from those who earned money and give to those who did not earn it or even work. That is a communist by definition so you prove to the people you are a communist POS. So now you actually tell the truth for a change. Wow, I'm impressed you can tell the truth once or twice here.
Louie Bee- If I had it my way I would kick everyone in congress along with the President and Vice out of office and take there benifits away from them. I would start all over and make sure there are no party lines. I would make it a law that no goverment official could take money from anyone to further their cause. I would also make it a law there was no "Pork" in any bill. I also hate communits from either party.
Donny....and you pedigree means what??? A blue blood is to be adored above everyone and revered for name instaed of one's own actions?
Where have you been hiding the last 30 years or the last election?....You never heard of all the stats showing all the profits goiung to the top while middle class and poor paid for it in no gains?.......
Romneys Ann would love to meet you...maybe you can buy her the Whitehouse.....
I have read about James Monroe....and You Donny...are no James Monroe! Maybe you are confused with being a relative of Marilyn?
Starsailing: You haven't posted one intelligent thought yet. What's the deal, as all you do is jump on anyone who isn't liberal. You people have been brainwashed into thinking that there is a "1%", that all other 99% of citizens are in the same boat. I don't think you are that stupid, albeit you are making a strong case. Obama was re-elected by convincing people like yourself that it's a terrible thing to be successful, to be wealthy, to own companies that in turn provide jobs and benefits. Hate the rich, the horrible 1%ers.
Your new SOS, John Kerry makes Romney look like a homeless person when it comes to wealth; but that's okay because he's a liberal.
He just spent $7.5 million on a custom built yacht; but that's okay because he's a liberal.
And the best part, he keeps it moored in Rhode Island to avoid paying the $500,000 luxury tax he would have to pay if he kept it in his home state; but that's okay he's a liberal.
If any GOP did any of this they would be scum 1%ers, tax dodgers, and not giving enough to charity because they had $7.5 million to spend on a yacht.
You hypocrites make me sick.
Jack....and this is your example of an intelligent post????...OOOOO....K! There is no 1%...? Really?
Jack....you living in the Romney houses?.......It is not terrible to be rich....it is terrible to be greedy!. Offshore accounts to escape paying taxes, Blocking votes to end tax breaks for companies taking American jobs overseas, voting against jobs bill for vets c who commit suicide at a record pace, wanting to privatize Soc sec, Medicare, and the Post office, kill all healthcare, kill healthcare for women, block healthcare for 911 firstresponders....yadayadayada...etc.......See a pattern I present jackie? You think that is good for Americans? I don't!
Donny...in other words you want to be King Donny! Good luck with that.....unless she is a little bit country and you are a little bit rock n roll!
Star: Yes there's a 1%, a 2% a 3% and on and on. I'm probably in the 5% range with my income.
Greedy you say. Romney has paid more in taxes than most people will make in 10 lifetimes. I paid in excess of $250,000 in 2012; that's not greedy, that's disgusting. And he's donated much more than the majority of your millionaire liberals. I think Biden gave his annual $300 again. What large, successful companies don't outsource? If they don't they're idiots, as the US has the highest corporate tax rate in the world. Why not give more tax breaks and incentives to keep entities here? I'm all for hiring "qualified" vets; but you can't expect a company just to hire someone because they're a vet. And if they're that unstable to even contemplate suicide, I don't want them either. I have 75 employees, two are vets and fantastic at what we've trained them to do. SS and Medicare are going bankrupt and you liberals can only scream that the big bad GOP wants to do away with it. It MUST be overhauled or it will be gone, let them do what needs to be done. And the rest of your post is complete b.s.
Not to mention, you have a very strange way of putting a "ie" or "y" after everyone's name. Are you 10 years old?
Oh, and you forgot to address my comments about Kerry, but of course you think it 's fine what he's done.
Offshore accounts??? Are you seriously not kidding. Have you ever heard of a hedge fund? ALL hedge fund managers maintain offices in the Caymans, Bermuda, the Jersey Islands, Guernsey Islands, and others. ALL wealthy people invest in hedge funds; it's called smart and ALL of your wealthy Democrats do it as well; or do you think it's just a horrible GOP 1%er thing?
Wow such a bunch immature kids talking @!$%# to each other wow reminnds me of jr. high....geezz get a life
starsailing every thing you said here was to put someone down. If you don't any thing more important, OH I forgot you are a Liberal and don't think for your self.
Brewsky......Romney got caught cheating on his taxes...we all know it...Romney hides his money offshore to avoid paying American taxes. Romney ran the company that takes American jobs overseas so he can hide the profits in offshore accounts....you see a pattern here?....So he pays some taxes...but destroys the American jobs and familes while draining American infrastructure at his leisure for profit. Don't try to spin the top 2% pay their fair share of taxes.........
Seeker you have a problem with me responding to name calling? Get a life and a clue. Want to try and debunk what I post....you can't....Truth bites ya huh? So what do you do seeker...you start whining and name calling...and you added what to knowledge on issues?...Nothing!
Brewsky I whistle blew on tax cheat a few years ago, just recieved my 5% cut of what the IRS recovered......The tax cheat was caught for over $275,000. Little ol Middleclass me provided more tax money than you the millionaire...Now you were saying?
BREWSKY 2 vets out of 75 employees....How patriotic!....Then you say the rest of Vets returning are unstable.........Typical republicon. Send troops to war on a lie then when they come home cut their benefits and to hell with them.....
Brewsky...yes I mock rtwing monikers...like yours...big executive huh and a moniker of Brewsky?....what's that level at ...first year college still?......Still doing toga party theme?
SS and are not going bankrupt...repubs are trying to kill them both to get some privatization going....all that money is driving republicons crazy...they didn't get it all in the first crash so you see the rest of the money out there and your greed says to your minds...take it...take it all.....
Dems are trying to put an end to offshore accounts where you hide your money to avoid paying taxes. Here in Mn we discussed the issue today SN 1237 and Dems are acting to pass laws to remove the fake industry accounts just laundering profits through for tax avoidence. 1.8 billion in offshore accounts last year alone that should have been sent in as taxes to Mn. Yeah...Honest investments ok....but as an American....Don't pretend to be patriotic....you aren't when you hide money offshore to avoid paying your fair share.
He is a freak!!!!
Just another world tour for Obama. He will demand Israel make peace with the Arab/Islamic nations and for sure not to protect themselves against Iran. Peace for Israel only means giving up more land and as Obama does, bow down to Muslims. Kick this idiot out of your holy land. Shun him as he has been doing to you for years. Don't believe a word he says as his words are meaningless. The first thing Israel should do is get rid of the Dome on the Rock as allowing these Muslims to erect this dome gained Israel nothing. The Rock would then be free for everyone to visit. This land is holy and I support Israel completely. Stay strong and don't give up one inch more of your land. Obama is definitely not looking out for your best interests, the people of the United States are but their voice is being ignored since he has been in office.
The world sees Obama as having no policy or knowledge enough to make policy about the middle east. We (the USA) are not taken seriously because we have a leader who lacks the ability to lead. No one is afraid of th USA anymore. Fear of US intervention has dwindled to nothing and fear of intervention kept peace around most of the world. Of course progressives believe the US has been a bully all over the world for too long and we should step back from that and allow whatever to happen. Well, whatever is now happening. So, which is better? Being thought of as a world bully or letting the entire planet go at each others throats in massive violent wars everywhere? Obama is ineffective at home and abroad. We'll be sucked into another bloody war before long.
No, the world only hated and laughed at us under Bush, PERIOD. Bin Laden was stilll roaming around causing trouble under BUSH. No one had respect for us under BUSH.
I see you found that Blaming Bush for Obama's first term of ineffective policy makes you feel better. More power to you I guess. reality is different, but whatever makes you feel better about supporting a failed President.
citizen
How dare them start wars? That's our job. Well at least it was for eight years.
flnobody, The USA used to have a fear factor. Not anymore. That is my point. Note how many conflicts have started since we weakened our policy. You don't think other countries and groups see us as weak? It is obvious that they do, and the example of that is all the wars that blossomed since Obama publicly apologized to the world for the US being so assertive around the globe. I do not care how you see it because I know where you are seeing it from and your viewing angle is in some "feel good" non-reality. These factions and rogue nations don't see an apology as a step toward peace, they see it as weakness because that is what it is. We aren't dealing with civilized people, we are dealing with animals who want to slaughter anyone who doesn't agree with them. Obama's policy undermines the same peace he and everyone else hopes for. There will never be world peace as long as there is still people. I know progressives like to think there is good everywhere, but that is simply not even close to reality.
Casualtaxspender,
Geez, You sound like that guy "Seafood or what ever" He is still blaming Nixon for everything! Man when will "You people" Ever take responsibility for our currant position in the world? Never!! Thats when. Drink up suckers!!
Casual...
Yep obama is your hero, we get that, however...
Why does a so called leader like obama so casually throw an ally like mubarack under the bus?
Why does a leader like obama so casually send over a 100 cruise missles into libya to insure enforcement of a no fly zone yet once that is obtained provide logistical support for air-to-ground assualts in libya?
Why doesa leader like obama invade a sovereign nation to carry out a mission of assasination and then brag about it?
Why has a leader like obama failed in developing any effective policy for Iran, Syria or Israel/Palestine? Has he run out of drones?
Bush2 will never be considered to be anything but a mediocre POTUS and I doubt that obama will be anything but mediocre as well.
American....
Why did you vote for a guy that didn't get elected? Did Obama kick your dog, or are you still sour about losing to him TWICE in a row? Was Costco passing out free kleenex today, or is this just the national republican whine out loud day?
Obama is following the same foreign policy in the Middle East as numerous Presidents before him. Keep an overwhelming military presence in the beleaguered Middle Eastern nations without a strong infrastructure to keep the people oppressed and angry, which gives the American government the bogeymen they need "terrorists". All the while controlling and stealing their natural resources.
Super...
Romney let the cat out of the bag at CPAC last week when he said we LIBERATED Iraq. The original name for the whole operation was "Operation Iraqi Liberation" or OIL for short. But that sounded too much like the real intent so they changed it to "Operation Iraqi Freedom" or OIF.
I wish it would only be in the Theaters................
Sadly, it will be in our front and backyard !
Unless you travel the world like I do, you have no idea how American is viewed. And I can tell you that we have a lot more respect from the world under Obama than under Bush.
Sleuth
What makes you think American is not a democrat?
Oh yeah! he tells the truth and cares about America.
Shar your opinions most likely come from watching the tube...travel abroad you will now 1st hand how the other countries view US...some are great people and some hate us to the bone.......fact
It is true some hate us to the bone, and that has been true for decades. But I have been travelling internationally for years and can tell you first hand that the lowest point for opinions toward the US were during the Bush administration. (Except maybe during the "big disgrace" of the Clinton affair - then we looked like Puritan fools.) And sorry to disappoint, but I travel so extensively that I am a platinum member of most frequent flyer programs. Maybe you get all your opinions from the tube?
I wonder how much money is left in the USA checkbook?
@rgculver---- None
Negative 17 trillion dollars. But Obama has already said he isn't concerned with that at all. Obama hopes our Capitalist system fails. It will be easier to say "That didn't work, lets try full blown socialism and I'll be the dictator.". I predict full financial collapse in the USA in the next 2 years. That way Obama can warm the hearts of his adoring fans by declaring an emergency, cancelling the next Presidential election and install himself as the Dictator of the USSA. I mean, he has to be effing things up on purpose, right?
citizen
Where were you 6 years ago? I guess you missed that one?
Hey, Idiot.. What has Obama done to get anything fixed? His policy is the status quo and it is a failure. You can only blame for so long before you have to get to work. The less progressives do to fix things, the more I believe they are purposely undermining our economy to get something else accomplished. Your type doesn't get it because you worship Obama and could not care less what happens, so long as you can feel good about one thing or another. Whatever your progressive leaders say is what you do. Be critical for a change. It is completely ok to demand they do a better job. Are you progressives so afraid of losing that you refuse to look at the disaster that Obama is responsible for? You can't blame Bush anymore. Those days are over. It is Obama's foot on the gas pedal and hands on the wheel. Get over Bush for fuxake.
Citizen......step away from the ledge....stop watching Fox news and you will be ok....The economy turned around despite the efforts of all republicons pledging to vote and obstruct all bills that would be good for America. Jobs are back the the levels before Obama took office and climbing....wallstreet is at record high....and Romney was not elected so capital gains taxes have not been eliminated on the rich, republicons have not destroyed soc sec , the Post office and medicare yet for their greedy rich 1%.......
Look under you bed...there are no monsters...those are just dust bunnies....you need to clean your room more often.
...Fox news? How about the idiots on NBC...all I hear from libs and obamaites do is bash....bash...bash...oh it's Bush, It's Fox news...while you walk around with your head stuck in utopian thoughts or how life is...I've fought in wars and know people that escaped from countries deep in socialism...I bet you think Castro is a wonderful hero too....all of these people the left admires are real life butchers of their own countrymen...you don't have a clue how the world works...this is a dangerous world ...I've been around long enough to know the difference between monsters under the bed....and monsters usurping power....wake up! People with your viewpoint will have to be in a concentration camp scheduled to be gassed before you will believe the truth.
who the f@@k is this stupid idiot goes by the name starsh*t or sh#tsailing , where are all these jobs you talk about? You sir ( and I use the term sir sarcasticaly,since your more like a mole) are a compleat and utter moron why dont you go back under the ground before the sunshine of reality hits you. I have noticed that almost all your posts have been deleated by the rest of us. got the hint yet moron!
Contrary to what the talking heads in the government and news tell us, the economy hasn't and won't turn around until we fix this country.
It's not as complex as they try and make it seem with their back talk and monosyllabic words used in an attempt to confuse us and make it seem to "big" for us to understand.
It's quite simple really, we make NOTHING in this country except weapons and trash. An economy based off perpetual war and trash will only come crumbling down.
And the majority of our politicians are taking mega dollars from the corporations that shape these policies.
Most Americans live in a fantasy world where we're still the best country in the world. While I love this country and the people here, that is so far from true.
We are the worst, or near the bottom, in the developed world in a good amount of major sectors. Healthcare, education, agriculture, and manufacturing.
Buck....U...once again show another righty bites the dust with only name calling and nothing of mine to debunk....kinda hard on ya when ya read my posts and have to look in the mirror at yourselves.....troubles you eh? Well there is hope for you, next election just vote Democratic party down the line and be an American once more....
While you at it, have a big piece of BeBop a Re Bop Rhubarb pie....yes nothing takes the shame and humiliation out of your mouth like a piece of rhubarb pie!
more childish antics by all of you on here slinging insults towards each other wow reminds me of jr. high
Justred....so you jump right in too....Rt wingers don't get a free ride on blogs anymore...when they rant their name calling and insults w/out facts....they now will get called out on it......
Starsailing, I have read your comments up to here and I agree with you on what is going on in America! We are being sold to the highest bidder! A what cost? We think we have it bad, wait 10 more years of these republicans on this mission to own every man and woman for the sake of top earners! I just want to vomit every time a GOP poster on here lies about what is going on, They are just to dumb to understand or they want to be blind because they feel they will get a payoff in the long run, They must be just that stupid! Keep up the good work!
Hi modeltrain.........biggest trainstore hobbyshop in Mn in St Paul, University and Lexington if you are ever this way! Huge! Tons of old stuff!
Yeah it only takes a minute or two to speak up about the republicons pledge to destroy America for the greedy rich. They have gotten a free ride for 30 years. Welfare for the rich is no longer tolerated. Too many Americans have lost everything due to their crash of the economy. Yet the greedy top profiteers are not satisfied with causing millions of Americans losing their homes, saving, and lives.....now they want the foodstamp money and Vets benefits to pay for more tax breaks for themselves. Their greed knows no bounds!
And what about the greed of the democrats? The problem in the US is not the wealthy. The problem is the sense of entitlement the poor have, that we should all pay for them, their mistakes, their poor choices, and their bills. Here's an idea, maybe you losers could get off the government tit, and take care of yourselves and your family - for a change. Talk about greed, democrat, you can shut it.
A Muslim President mostly interested in showing his support for Muslim countries is what he is really trying to convey to the Muslim people...he is not in support of Israel.
As I get up off the floor from rolling with laughter, I can't get over how trip is considered "high stakes". I don't see how NBC News can consider this "high stakes"; "high hopes", maybe, on the part of the people he'll visit, but certainly not any risk to his administrations foreign policy because there isn't one.
Perhaps they would have been just as well off with their SoS Emeritus: Dennis Rodman.
It's "high stakes" because we'll now see if Obama stands for the American people instead of war mongers in the land of endless wars.
Obama will probably whisper in Netanyahu's ear that he'll have more leverage AFTER the election like he did the Russian president. Then he'll catch his mistake and blurt out "wheres my teleprompter!!!" followed by "how bout those silly Iranians eh Ben?"
Kenney...Obama would have to move your lips out of the way of Net's ear first!
speaking of which... I think I saw Kennyboy's lips wrapped around citizen xx's .... oh the horror! I mean it was tiny I admit but the thought is enough to make you wanna just spit. Move outta the way Star... he's off to find Larry now, hoping to stand behind him so don't be mistaken for that goon
After reading this far down the comments, you people really do have nothing to do but sit on your computers and spew out partisan garbage and personal attacks.
I have to ask, how do you live with your hate filled selves?
Old....you forget to say ...get off my lawn!
I don't have a lawn. I live in Alaska.
Get off my snow!
Unless every party involved reaches a solution on the Jewish settlements on the Palestinian land, nothing will be done and war perhaps continues
I agree, but look at the two groups we are dealing with. The israilies and
Palestinians are not rational people. We would have more luck making peace
between two groups of chimpanzees.
palestinian land? huh? you must be dumb dumb dumb...
I think maybe you are ignorant. Israel was called Palestine until the British/UN
gave it to the Jews after ww2.
New flash, chup. Israel fought the British for Israel after WWII.
Obama is a Muslim.
As if that's worse than being a Christian. Same sh** different name.
wrong some. If a Christian kills a non Christian in the name of his religion then he is wrong. If a Muslim does the same he gets 72 virgins and is praised.
You're both nuts Kennyboys.
He's NOT a Muslim but even if he was -- SO WHAT???
Ya know Larry --- they say you can't fix stupid and people like you are proof of it.
larry
You're an idiot. What's your point?
Obama is a god above anything else to his liberal progressive worshipers. Liberal progressives will vote for whoever the liberal progressive party puts on the ballot. Job performance does not matter. It is all about evening things up and making sure people who work for a living don't get too much money. If the worker gets too much money, the progressives want him to hand it over so they can keep the poor down by giving them handouts. Gotta keep those promises if you want to get those votes. We all know how important it is to this country that people who have no clue get to the voting booth. After all, how are we going to turn into a new socialist country if the providers get to decide who runs things. We would rather have a President that is elected by the takers.
@citizen-xx - poor Cinderalla - doing all the work.
If Obama is a true muslim, why are the muslims making threats to him, if he visits the dome of the rock ?
Citizen....meanwhile repubs doing their best to make sure the Rich1% pay no taxes...like Romney the tax cheat....hiding his profits offshore using all of the infrastructure to make money but not pay anything back to America...how republicon is that? Take, take, spend and take some more without ever paying their fair share. 1 out of 4 profitable corporations pay NO taxes whatsoever and actually get money back.....nice loopholes for the rich huh?
Like Romney ...Citibank has over 200 subsideraries in the Caymen islands offshore accounts to avoid paying taxes to America off of their profits......So republicon...the ultimate republicon dream goal.....and who are the welfare takers really?
We would rather have a President that is elected by the takers.
Hence the reason why Wall Street and big business wanted Romney...
Kenny HA HA HA HA. If a christian kills another christian its wrong?
Christians have been killing each other and other "Infidels" for as
long as Christians have existed. Now their molesting boys and Rabbis.
You can't call anyone you want to a Christian. The word Christian means like unto Christ. So really Christian is a goal not a group of people. Christ took no lives while he was here. So to be like him would mean you took no life. He said he would forgive us. That don't mean he justified us to commit sins. If someone killed someone and said they did it because of you. Does that mean it's your fault?
I know that is English above but I can make no sense of it.
I agree Christ taught some nice lessons, love thy neigbor and such, but how
many so called Christians follow his teachings? not many. Plus SIN ALL YOU WANT,
just go to confession throw a few Hail Marys and all is forgiven.
Obama is not a Muslim but one thing is for sure your a dumbass!
Obama may not be a muslim, but he certainly favors them.
Hey Chupamescan...Your dumb...
Obama caters to his Muslim brothers and they all laugh at him behind his back. They have as little respect for Obama as 47% of Americans.
Religion - stop the madness.
I agree, crazy evangelical Zionists are obsessed with Israel.
The crazy American Jews are as well. The holy land? More like the
UNHOLY land.
Abandoning and aggressively isolating the Jewish state would force it to abandon its existential threats to Iran, continuing horrors wreaked upon Palestine and paranoid pursuit of invulnerability, territorial conquest and racist empire in, and beyond, the Mideast. America would regain financial integrity and stature among nations. There is no greater or kinder support that we could render to the Mideast, and our “inseparable Mideast ally.”
The rich evangelicals wont have it. They are so obscessed with the un-holy
land that they are ready to start yet another questionable war. Not to mention
all the American Jews whining about thier so called homeland. Its a shame the Jews
werent placed in a portion of Germany after WW2, would have saved the world alot
of grief and money protecting them.
Um, it is their homeland...but what would an idiot like you know about history... you're just another Jew hater... If Israel starts a war, they'll finish it...without your help...so you're safe on your couch, don't worry.
What a win it would be for the American people if Air Force One just dropped Barry off, pulled up the stairs and came back home sans Barry. We just might have a shot at reviving America if he stayed in Israel to focus his vast intellect on the Israeli/Palestinian thing.
Great idea!
More proof, you just can't fix stupid!!!
Shows stupid, and rl## stupid is as stupid says!!!
Stick it in your ear idiot.
Show...less expensive if you just leave the country.
startsailing...I have to wonder why you chose Moe as your avatar over Curly, Larry or Shemp? I would have chosen Larry to be more up on current events and to have a better insight into more complex subjects....oh, I just answered my own question.
bagdaddy.....so the voices in your head....?.....Are real huh? So you chose Bagdad as in ...the thief of Bagdad....as in Republicons lying nation into Iraq and Bagdad war for war profits for the rich republicons...thiefs......so you enjoy being part of the thief party Huh?....No one has to answer that question....quite self evident!
Starsailing....You are a lib-tard!!!! Sorry
I'm just glad McCain't isn't President, or G. War. Criminal. Bush, we would surly be in another Mid East war. If the Rethugli@!$%#s were in charge, we would already be over there, fighting and dying for all the wrong reasons! Thank all the powers that be, that we have such a fine thinking President in Obama!!!
Could you imagine the devastation, (further devastation) of this country, if the Rethugs were in charge? I shudder to even think of it!!!
Dfrom: I agree!! I am sooooo glad that "we" have Barry Borrock Soetoro Hussein Osama. We have the greatest Community Organizer that money can buy. Thank God "we" have someone who only spent a million dollars to have all of their past records sealed. Thank God "we" have someone who was taught, and mentored, by great communists such as Frank Marshall Davis and William Ayers!! Thank God "we" have someone who has never, never, never, never, never worked a day in his life. Never earned a paycheck. Never made a paycheck. Thank God America, proud America, has Barry Borrock Soetoro Hussein Osama!! For the first time in my life, I am soooooo proud to be an American!!
You live in a fantasy world. It is good to see the Obama apology policy has stopped all the violence in the world. Obama basically put the world on notice that they can do whatever they want and the USA will stay out of it. War is spreading like wildfire now. The extremist element is taking over the middle east and now africa. North Korea has nukes and the ability to get them a good distance from North Korea. Iran has upped the ante and is processing material to make nukes and will have them in less than 2 years. You're right though, being soft is really having a calming effect on the world. Obama will be responsible when the shat hits the fan, but you'll find a way to blame Bush for it. At least when Republicans are running things, the world knows we aint effin around.
@DfromSpencer - Let's see how that "fine thinking President" is working out for you in the next two years. So far, he has proven that he is a complete and total failure to this country.
Yeah, as if the Bushyboy's military clusterfc*ks in Iraq and Afghanistan are the stellar, shining examples of success. Gotcha.
Dry up, please.
Mr. Hairy, (harley or whatever).... well unlike Michelle, rest assured the majority of us are not happy to claim ya.
Spencer is a slug... A loser and a taker!!!!
Mr. Harley...You are spot on!!!! And funny!!!
Let's see if I have this straight. The United States of America has a Community Organizer, named Barry BORROCK SOETORO HUSSEIN OSAMA, representing America in a FOREIGN LAND. This is certainly, most definitely, an omen that America is on her way back to being the great Country that once made us all proud!! I don't know about you, but for the first time in my life, I am truly proud to be an American!!
Is this Mooooochelle Obozo???
It is God’s will that America serves Israel. Not to do so is to invite eternal damnation. God Bless Israel and God Bless America.
It's a mighty big universe out there Goon, and only one of many according to scientists. I'm guessing God has bigger things to attend to than squabbles between middle east countries.
I was brought to understand God gave us all free will, not that he'd solve the problems we create among ourselves.
Ah yes, but you conveniently ignore the fact that one of those middle eastern countries is the home of the Israelites, God’s chosen people.
If they are god's chosen people (which they are not) then he must have a weird sense of humor.
God will ? do you have any proof ? show us ! or may be God is jew ? we can take note and looking around for another God, may be the jews infiltrate the heaven all ready, aghhh, like a christian I spec found to Jesus later not a funny bear Ravi in dark clothes, and that case we need a REAL God no a jew goddie
NEWS FLASH ! Jesus Christ was born and died a Jew ! Get off your ignorant rants and read the "Bible" ! Christianity is premised on Judaism, that is why we have Judeo- Christian Values !
All this God talk is giving me a headache. Don't forget: man created God, not the other way around.
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you forgot undercover gay and inept, coward and panderer
roflmao, absolutly loved that joke not THE ONE IN THE WHITE HOUSE THOUGH
Wekk that wouldn't be too hard to do, after all mooshelle has been dominating 0bigears for years.
Terry... did they let you out of White Sanitarium in Wichita Falls again? Or are they just allowing you lunatics to use the computer now and then?
ah yes; the world's thugs and dictators love a weak American President!
Bet they really love a strong Community Organizer.
Weak? How so? He's killed more Al Queda terrorists than Bush did in 8 years.
If anything at all, he's a much stronger, much more focused president than CHeney.
He is absolutely the greatest Community Organizer that has ever set foot in The White House. We can all agree on that.
Weak? Ask Whoopie Goldberg if Hussein is weak. Ask Jay Leno if Hussein is weak. Ask Letterman if Hussein is weak. Ask Tiger Woods if Hussein is weak. Ask Eric Holder if Hussein is weak. Ask Nancy Pelosi if Hussein is weak. Ask the Ambassador of Benghazi if Hussein is weak.
Not surprising. When confronted with facts, you ignore them and revert to infantile rhetoric.
Mark, be real about things. Obama is an apologist and weak. The world sees that and those who see that are stating conflicts all over the world. North Korea has the capability to hit us with nukes now. Iran is a short time from having their own nukes and they already have the rockets to ship them. There are wars sprouting up all over Africa and the middle east is still in turmoil. The list goes on and on. the reason it is so unstable globally? because Obama thought being apologetic would make people put down their guns and love one another. All being apologetic did was make people think we are weak. That is the reality. Of course that differs from what the Obama worshipping progressives want to believe. But it is reality none the less.
So he is weak because he won't give in to the Zionist land grabbers . If your a Jew then go to Israel and fight for your beloved country. Why should we Americans spill our blood for you? Always the victims you are.
Rocky the Palestinian Muslim Radicals have a nice vest for you to wear, P.S. don't play with the wires or C-4
Ladies and gentlemen we have our 20th cry baby no doubt streaming in live from his kibbutz . Viknat go steal some more land . Zionist pig.
when did Americans spill blood for Israel? crawl back under your rock.
Iraq?
Israel has cost us hundreds of billions and mountains of hatred. Israelis enjoy free medical care, free education, low to 0% home loans and many benefits that are too good for Americans. Why should the American tax payer be forced to support a Jewish state in the middle east? If we supported a Christian group there every Jewish lawyer in America would be in court shouting "unconstitutional" and they would be right to do so.
We have elected officials that hold Israeli citizenship. It is insane to allow dual citizenship! America is in bad need of a government for our own people. The political prostitutes that run our country are scared to death of the Israeli lobby because they will spend millions against any candidate that doesn't kiss their rear. What a pitiful sight to see our leaders bow and support Zionism while our citizens pay the price.
The whole world is tired of Israeli atrocities and Americas complicity. We need to get out of the middle east and start dealing with our own problems before we are in depression and chaos.
Wrong ! is the opposite they milk the madness of USA
Mr. Morton, Obviously you have very blatant issues. Paramount of which being a anti-Semite and trying very hard not to sound like one ! This country gives aid to A LOT of other nations besides Israel ! So what is your point ? Other than you are using the State of Israel as a scape goat ! Dual Citizenship is allowed in a lot of nations throughout the world, again what is your point ? This country does not have what you depicted as " enjoy free medical care, free education, low to 0% home loans and many benefits that are too good for Americans." This is NOT due to any fault of Israel, it is due to the thinking of this nation ! That MONEY is more important that people ! That here, you are on your own, except if you are a major corp. then the federal govt. bails you out ! Where is the "Bail Out" for those of us that lost our homes, our jobs, our retirement funds when the bottom fell out back in Sept. of 2008. I ask you where is it ???
Israel is a ally of ours, have been to BOTH Republican and Democratic administrations, again your point ? It would not surprise me if you are in favor of Iran bombing Israel ! Go take your bigotry and shove it where the sun does NOT shine ! And while you are up there, check to see if you even have a brain !
Weak no ! Thinks with his brain and not with his "M-16" yes ! This President has shown extreme courage, he did what he said he would do. That is hunt down and capture, kill Osama Ben-La-din. Where-as Mr. Bush said "I'm not worried about him" Now who is not showing strength ! ??? He has not put some 4.4 K men and women in their premature graves premised on a lie ! All of you who do not like him for his political views, that you have the right to do. What you do NOT have the right do is, is to state FALSE information knowingly so ! Otherwise known as "making up you own facts". Do you do so because you can not abide a Black man in the White House or are you just scared that your "White" demographic is disappearing ? Well guess what ? It is and there is NOTHING you can do about it, other than make your selves out to be ignorant people that you are with your rants, childish name calling and so on.
Yes-656474.....in answer to your statement. Yes.
For some reason a lot of Jew haters on here. Not surprising really...the Jew haters in Germany were also the gun haters and freedom haters. Same in Stalin's Russia. I think Obama went to Israel to check out Armegeddon himself before the big event.
YES ---YOU ARE FULL OF SH_T
Low expectations from the Nobel Peace prize winner? Obama is the great healer and will unite the middle east in the battle against the infidels.
And I know this is Jay Leno the comedian...
Common, Obama can't even unite his own country, let alone others. Awaken yourself to reality.
Dying vet's '@!$%# you' letter to George Bush & Dick Cheney
To: George W. Bush and Dick Cheney
From: Tomas Young
I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of
my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488
soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of
the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on
behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed
their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded. I was paralyzed in an
insurgent ambush in 2004 in Sadr City. My life is coming to an end. I am
living under hospice care.
I write this letter on behalf of husbands and wives who have lost
spouses, on behalf of children who have lost a parent, on behalf of the
fathers and mothers who have lost sons and daughters and on behalf of
those who care for the many thousands of my fellow veterans who have
brain injuries. I write this letter on behalf of those veterans whose
trauma and self-revulsion for what they have witnessed, endured and done
in Iraq have led to suicide and on behalf of the active-duty soldiers
and Marines who commit, on average, a suicide a day. I write this letter
on behalf of the some 1 million Iraqi dead and on behalf of the
countless Iraqi wounded. I write this letter on behalf of us all--the
human detritus your war has left behind, those who will spend their
lives in unending pain and grief.
You may evade justice but in our eyes you are each guilty of egregious
war crimes, of plunder and, finally, of murder, including the murder of
thousands of young Americans--my fellow veterans--whose future you
stole.
I write this letter, my last letter, to you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney. I
write not because I think you grasp the terrible human and moral
consequences of your lies, manipulation and thirst for wealth and power.
I write this letter because, before my own death, I want to make it
clear that I, and hundreds of thousands of my fellow veterans, along
with millions of my fellow citizens, along with hundreds of millions
more in Iraq and the Middle East, know fully who you are and what you
have done. You may evade justice but in our eyes you are each guilty of
egregious war crimes, of plunder and, finally, of murder, including the
murder of thousands of young Americans--my fellow veterans--whose future
you stole.
Your positions of authority, your millions of dollars of personal
wealth, your public relations consultants, your privilege and your power
cannot mask the hollowness of your character. You sent us to fight and
die in Iraq after you, Mr. Cheney, dodged the draft in Vietnam, and you,
Mr. Bush, went AWOL from your National Guard unit. Your cowardice and
selfishness were established decades ago. You were not willing to risk
yourselves for our nation but you sent hundreds of thousands of young
men and women to be sacrificed in a senseless war with no more thought
than it takes to put out the garbage.
I joined the Army two days after the 9/11 attacks. I joined the Army
because our country had been attacked. I wanted to strike back at those
who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army
to go to Iraq, a country that had no part in the September 2001 attacks
and did not pose a threat to its neighbors, much less to the United
States. I did not join the Army to "liberate" Iraqis or to shut down
mythical weapons-of-mass-destruction facilities or to implant what you
cynically called "democracy" in Baghdad and the Middle East. I did not
join the Army to rebuild Iraq, which at the time you told us could be
paid for by Iraq's oil revenues. Instead, this war has cost the United
States over $3 trillion. I especially did not join the Army to carry out
pre-emptive war. Pre-emptive war is illegal under international law.
And as a soldier in Iraq I was, I now know, abetting your idiocy and
your crimes. The Iraq War is the largest strategic blunder in U.S.
history. It obliterated the balance of power in the Middle East. It
installed a corrupt and brutal pro-Iranian government in Baghdad, one
cemented in power through the use of torture, death squads and terror.
And it has left Iran as the dominant force in the region. On every
level--moral, strategic, military and economic--Iraq was a failure. And
it was you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, who started this war. It is you who
should pay the consequences.
I would not be writing this letter if I had been wounded fighting in
Afghanistan against those forces that carried out the attacks of 9/11.
Had I been wounded there I would still be miserable because of my
physical deterioration and imminent death, but I would at least have the
comfort of knowing that my injuries were a consequence of my own
decision to defend the country I love. I would not have to lie in my
bed, my body filled with painkillers, my life ebbing away, and deal with
the fact that hundreds of thousands of human beings, including
children, including myself, were sacrificed by you for little more than
the greed of oil companies, for your alliance with the oil sheiks in
Saudi Arabia, and your insane visions of empire.
I have, like many other disabled veterans, suffered from the inadequate
and often inept care provided by the Veterans Administration. I have,
like many other disabled veterans, come to realize that our mental and
physical wounds are of no interest to you, perhaps of no interest to any
politician. We were used. We were betrayed. And we have been abandoned.
You, Mr. Bush, make much pretense of being a Christian. But isn't lying
a sin? Isn't murder a sin? Aren't theft and selfish ambition sins? I am
not a Christian. But I believe in the Christian ideal. I believe that
what you do to the least of your brothers you finally do to yourself, to
your own soul.
My day of reckoning is upon me. Yours will come. I hope you will be put
on trial. But mostly I hope, for your sakes, that you find the moral
courage to face what you have done to me and to many, many others who
deserved to live. I hope that before your time on earth ends, as mine is
now ending, you will find the strength of character to stand before the
American public and the world, and in particular the Iraqi people, and
beg for forgiveness.
--Tomas Young
NO advertising or crying-WIMP!
who the eff are you to write anything "on behalf" of anybody?
did they ask you to?
Thanks Dodge. That needed to be said.
@FOLWNJ
Hey lap dog, seems like you can't handle the truth from a dying veteran. Typical respone from a CHICKEN HAWK like you. Get back into your kennel, lap doggie.
you're a phony; and despicable
awwww go cry sally-tard
btw i'm a veteran of Iraq
a REAL one
A letter composed by a man who is dying of his own accord. He refuses to eat and will starve to death. That is how I understand it anyway. He signed up and could have refused to go to Iraq if he objected on the grounds he objects now. No one is forced into combat. You do not have to enlist and even if you do enlist, you do not have to go. People were on waiting lists to go over there for fuxake. Isn't like they couldn't have found someone to take his place.
Hind sight is 20/20. The entire congress and senate voted to go into Iraq. They saw the same intel that the Bush administration saw and decided Saddam Hussein was an imminent threat to proliferate weapons of mass destruction. It isn't like he never had them. He used them before. Why do people claim he never had any? There were WMDs found in that country, just not the huge amount expected and the smaller finds weren't reported. Hell, 500 metric tons of yellow cake were taken out of Iraq. Back page news though when the media is as liberal as it is.
You are so off topic.
Tomas Young's essay is WAY TOO LONG. If you want people to read your comments, make your point as briefly as possible.
Hopefully his plane will fall from the sky...
Kota
Are you refering to Cheney, or Bush?
where's a nice big flock of canadian geese when you need one?