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  • 13
    Apr
    2013
    2:07pm, EDT

    Abbas accepts Palestinian prime minister's resignation

    Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has accepted the resignation of Prime Minister Salam Fayyad. The two men reportedly had ongoing disputes over government policy. MSNBC's Mara Schiavocampo reports.

    By Reuters

    Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas accepted the resignation of Prime Minister Salam Fayyad on Saturday, a Palestinian official and the Palestinian news agency said.

    "Abbas agreed to accept Fayyad's resignation," the Palestinian official said. News agency Wafa said Abbas had asked Fayyad to stay on as caretaker until a new government was formed.

    Sources told Reuters on Fayyad had offered his resignation to Abbas on Wednesday following a rift between the two men over government policy.

    Related:

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    Fayyad's resignation, inspite of the U.S. urging Abbas not to accept, shows the decline of American influence with the Palestinians.

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  • 21
    Mar
    2013
    11:02am, EDT

    Richard Engel answers questions about Obama's trip to the Mideast

    JERUSALEM –  President Barack Obama is in the Middle East this week on a high stakes diplomatic trip to Israel, the Palestinian territories and Jordan.

    After spending time in Israel on Wednesday with Israel’s President Benjamin Netanyahu, he visited Palestinian leaders in the West Bank on Thursday.

    Richard Engel, NBC News’ Chief Foreign Correspondent, is in Jerusalem – where Obama delivered a  major speech to Israelis Thursday. He answered reader questions about the trip earlier today.

    Please click on the box below to replay the informative chat.

    This chat is moderated. As many questions as possible will be answered. 

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    Obama in West Bank: Palestinians 'deserve a state of their own'

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    Richard Engel: Israel walls off the Arab Spring

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    its a mind set pube the youth in the middle east want peace. but nothing is free and its gonna be expensive blood is not cheap.

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    21
    Mar
    2013
    7:35pm, EDT

    Obama appeals to Israelis: Give justice to the Palestinians

    President Barack Obama on Thursday urged the Israeli people to put themselves in the shoes of Palestinians and recognize their "right to self-determination, their right to justice." NBC's Chuck Todd reports.

    By Ian Johnston and Kari Huus, NBC News

    President Barack Obama on Thursday urged the Israeli people to put themselves in the shoes of Palestinians and recognize their "right to self-determination, their right to justice."

    In a televised speech at the Jerusalem Convention Center, Obama said there should be "two states for two peoples."

    Breaking off from his prepared text, he said that he recently met with a group of young Palestinians.


    "Talking to them, they weren’t that different from my daughters, they weren’t that different from your daughters or sons," he said.

    "I honestly believe that if any Israeli parent sat down with these kids, they’d say, 'I want these kids to succeed, I want them to prosper, I want them to have opportunities just like my kids do,'" he added to applause.

    Obama, on the second day of his first official trip to Israel, warned that "the only way for Israel to endure and thrive as a Jewish and democratic state" was through the creation of an independent Palestine.

    That state had to be "viable" with real borders, he said, criticizing the building of settlements in the West Bank.

    President Obama receives applause from a crowd in Jerusalem Thursday by challenging groups that reject Israel.

    He urged ordinary Israelis to put pressure on their leaders to achieve a future in which Jews, Christians and Muslims could live in peace.

    "I also know that not everyone in this hall will agree with what I have to say about peace. I recognize that there are those who are not simply skeptical about peace, but question its underlying premise, have a different vision for Israel’s future and that's a part of democracy and the discourse between our two countries," he said.

    "Peace is necessary, I believe that. I believe that peace is the only path to true security. You have the opportunity to be the generation that permanently secures the Zionist dream, or you can face a growing challenge to its future," he added.

    Jason Reed/ Reuters

    President Barack Obama shakes hands with Israel's President Shimon Peres after Obama was presented with the Presidential Medal of Distinction, Israel's highest civilian honor, during an official state dinner in Jerusalem on Thursday.

    At a state dinner in Jerusalem Thursday evening, Israel's President Shimon Peres awarded Obama with Israel’s highest honor — the Presidential Medal of Distinction — emphasizing what Peres called his "unforgettable contribution" to the security of Israel.

    U.S. support for the Iron Dome missile defense system had been instrumental in saving Israeli lives, Peres said.

    As Obama sat at the dais with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his wife Sara before a room full of Israeli dignitaries, Peres called out the U.S. president's "tireless work to make Israel strong to make peace possible."

    Peres said he was "convinced" the United States "will do whatever is necessary on the Iranian threat."

    Obama said he was accepting the award "on behalf of the American people."

    Israel must avoid 'isolation'
    In his address at the convention center Obama stressed that America would always support Israel, echoing his comments Wednesday that the U.S. was Israel's "eternal" ally.

    But he said peace had to be made between "peoples" and could not be achieved through military hardware alone.

    "Given the frustration in the international community, Israel must reverse an undertow of isolation. And given the march of technology, the only way to truly protect the Israeli people over the long term is through the absence of war — because no wall is high enough, and no Iron Dome is strong enough and perfect enough, to stop every enemy that’s intent on doing so from inflicting harm," he added.

    There was a warm, official welcome for President Obama in Ramallah. In the streets, away from the Palestinian government compound, street demonstrations. NBC's Martin Fletcher reports.

    Obama said Israel could not be expected to negotiate with anyone "dedicated to its destruction."

    But he said he believed that Israelis had a "true partner" in Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, along with Prime Minister Salam Fayyad. On a visit to the West Bank earlier Thursday, Obama condemned the Palestinian Hamas party, which holds sway in the Gaza Strip and is a rival to Abbas' Fatah movement.

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    President Barack Obama embraces Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas upon his arrival at the presidential compound in the West Bank city of Ramallah on Thursday.

    "So many young Palestinians have rejected violence. There’s an opportunity there. There’s a window," he said. "Peace is possible."

    At one point in the speech, someone in the audience began heckling Obama, who peered toward the back of the hall to try to see what was happening.

    "This is part of the lively debate we talked about," he said, referencing a line earlier in his speech. "This is good."

    He joked about media reports that he and Prime Minister Netanyahu do not get along. It was just a "plot" between him and "my friend Bibi" to give journalists something to write about, he suggested.

    Earlier, Obama met with Abbas in the West Bank.

    After his helicopter touched down in Ramallah, Obama was greeted cordially by Abbas and the two hugged.

    "We cannot give up on the search for peace, no matter how hard it is. ... Too much is at stake," the president said during a joint news conference.

    President Barack responds to a heckler in the crowd during his speech Thursday to the Israeli people at the Jerusalem Convention Center .

    'Misery' of Hamas
    He sounded hopeful about Abbas and the Palestinian Authority and reiterated U.S. willingness to help.

    "The United States is deeply committed to the creation of an independent and sovereign state of Palestine," he said, adding, "Simply, Palestinians deserve a state of their own."

    When asked whether he thought a halt to further settlement activity was required before peace talks could begin in earnest, Obama demurred. 

    "If the only way to even begin the conversation is that we get everything right from the outset … then we’re never going to get to the broader issue, which is how you actually structure a state of Palestine that is sovereign and contiguous," the president said.

    "The core issue right now is how do we get sovereignty for the Palestinian people and ensure security for the Israeli people," he added. "If we solve those two problems, the settlement problem will be solved."

    The president praised Abbas for his leadership and sharply criticized rival group Hamas for the "misery" of Palestinians in Gaza.

    For his part, Abbas said he had "renewed confidence" in U.S. assistance with the peace process after meeting with Obama.

    "We have conducted a good and useful round of talks," he said through an interpreter.

    Abbas called for an end to Israeli construction of settlements in Palestinian territories.

    He warned that continued building of the sites was causing Palestinians, particularly the younger generation, to lose hope that Israel and a sovereign Palestine could peacefully co-exist.

    When young Palestinians see the settlements, he said, "they do not trust the two-state solution anymore, and this is very dangerous" for the future.

    Two rockets that may have been a show of protest were fired into southern Israel close to the border with the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip early Thursday.

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    This story was originally published on Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:53 AM EDT

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    Obama toured a technology exhibition at the Israel Museum to have a look at cutting-edge products being developed in the country, including a potentially revolutionary battery that uses air and water to release energy stored in aluminum. The makers say it could power a car that would have to stop o …

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  • 19
    Mar
    2013
    6:41am, EDT

    On the Brink: Plenty to discuss as Obama heads to Israel

    Jason Reed / Reuters, file

    President Barack Obama meets with Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington on March 5, 2012. They are due to meet again on Wednesday.

    In the third part of our "On the Brink" series previewing President Barack Obama’s trip to the Middle East, NBC News correspondent Martin Fletcher – who has reported from the region for three decades – examines the chances that American pressure will help restart Israeli-Palestinian peace talks.

    News analysis

    TEL AVIV, Israel - President Barack Obama will spend about seven hours with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Wednesday, with one scheduled meeting having turning into three.

    He will have a lot to talk about.

    Obama will also spend five hours with Palestinian leaders, but have much less to discuss. One item will dominate the agenda – how to form a Palestinian state.

    Abed Al Hashlamoun / EPA

    A group of Palestinian men protest the closure of the main southwest entrance to Hebron, in the West Bank, on March 8. The entrance was closed by Israeli troops due to its proximity to the Jewish settlement of Beit Hagay.

    Palestinians are not holding their breath. Hints of restarting peace talks within a year do not convince young Palestinians who say they want concrete progress, now.

    Widespread demonstrations by the young against Obama are expected in the West Bank. Meanwhile in Gaza, which Obama will not visit because it is controlled by militant group Hamas, is expected largely to ignore the American president’s visit.

    This strengthens Israel’s claim that it has no partner for peace. What point is there, Netanyahu has asked, in reaching an agreement with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas if he only speaks for half the Palestinians? In fact, Hamas calls Abbas a traitor for even trying to reach an agreement with Israel.

    Also in this series: Syria chaos looms large over Obama's Israel trip

     There also is not much of a chance that Obama will put too much pressure on Israel or the Palestinians. Analysts in both camps believe that Obama’s message will boil down to this – We have tried hard in the past and we got nowhere and got no thanks from anyone. We cannot want peace more than you do. So call when you are ready.

    President Obama makes his first trip to Israel where he will meet with Israeli President Shimon Peres and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as well as Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. NBC's Peter Alexander reports.

    In the absence of any hope and seeing more and more of their land swallowed up by the Israelis, many Palestinians may well resort to the only tool they think works – violence. 

    Although Abbas is an enemy of violence and has reportedly ordered his security forces to stop any terrorism against Israel, for months there has been a steady drip of attacks against Israelis, often in response to violence on the part of Israelis.  There is more and more talk of a third intifada, or uprising.

    Another question hangs over Obama's visit: How serious is Netanyahu when he says he wants peace talks with the Palestinians? One indicator is the carrot he offered Tsippi Livni, head of the small Hatnua party, when persuading her to be the first to sign up with his new government. He put her in charge of peace negotiations.

    While she is an avowed proponent of peace talks, it is not clear how much freedom Livni will be allowed to carry out her task. The new government is very inward-looking. It is a cabinet devoted to making serious domestic changes: easing the burden on the middle class, abolishing many of the privileges given to the ultra-orthodox, creating jobs and improving education.

    Also in this series: Israel to grill Obama over possible military strike on Iran

    So peace with the Palestinians is likely to be far down the government’s agenda. The two bright young hopes of Israeli politics, Yair Lapid and Naftali Bennett, who have formed a coalition that controls 25 percent of the total seats in the Knesset, do not seem very focused on Palestinian issues.

    Bennett, on the right, is against a Palestinian state. Lapid, in the center-left, says the right things but appears, in practice, unwilling to make any of the necessary compromises.

    Thousands of Palestinians - among them masked gunmen - took to the streets of the West Bank for the funeral of a prisoner who died in an Israeli jail. His family says he was tortured while Israel claims it was a heart attack in what threatens to becomes a new uprising. ITV's John Ray reports.

    Meanwhile, with little changing in their favor, Palestinians show signs of growing desperation. While some are leaning toward violence, it is unlikely a new intifada would further their aims of statehood.  Declaring a state in the U.N. achieved little on the ground, and the ongoing divide between Hamas and Abbas' continues to weaken the Palestinian cause.  Finally, in the absence of any real resistance, Palestinians say, Israel takes more of their land.

    Their only hope is international pressure on Israel. But there is a deep feeling that if the United States does not join such pressure, it will have little hope of having any effect on the Israeli government.

    Martin Fletcher is the author of “Walking Israel.”

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    If I were Netanyahu I'd show the Empty Suit the same respect that he was shown when he came here to visit... Israel is more than capable of taking care of itself....And I think they are about pushed into the corner enough that they will....

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  • 12
    Dec
    2012
    4:32am, EST

    Israel vows to withhold $400M in tax revenues from Palestinians over statehood drive

    Murat Kaynak / Anadolu via EPA

    Turkish President Abdullah Gul (left) and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas (second left) review the honor guard during a welcoming ceremony in Ankara, Turkey, Tuesday.

    By Reuters

    JERUSALEM - Israel will withhold tax revenues from Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas' administration until March at least in response to his statehood campaign at the United Nations, Israel's foreign minister said. 

    Under interim peace deals, Israel collects some $100 million a month in duties on behalf of the Palestinian Authority in the occupied West Bank -- money that is badly needed to pay public sector salaries. 

    "The Palestinians can forget about getting even one cent in the coming four months, and in four months' time we will decide how to proceed," Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said in a speech Tuesday night. 

    Israel says Abbas violated previous peace accords by sidestepping stalled negotiations and securing a Palestinian status upgrade in the United Nations last month. 

    Debts for power, water
    Israel has already withheld the December transfer, saying the money would be used to start paying off $200 million the Palestinians owe the Israel Electric Corporation. 

    Lieberman, a hardliner in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's conservative coalition government, said the Palestinians also had another debt with the Israeli water authority that would have to be paid off. 

    "Israel is not prepared to accept unilateral steps by the Palestinian side, and anyone who thinks they will achieve concessions and gains this way is wrong," he said. 

    Palestinians had a major symbolic victory when the United Nations General Assembly voted overwhelmingly to recognize them, but the U.S. argued the new status could set back Palestinians in the path to peace. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

    Hamas leader returns to Palestinian territories for first time since 1967

    Yasser Abed Rabbo, a senior Palestinian official, said earlier this month that Israel was guilty of "piracy and theft" by refusing to hand over the funds. 

    The European Union has also criticized Israel for not handing over the cash.


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    "Contractual obligations ... regarding full, timely, predictable and transparent transfer of tax and custom revenues have to be respected," it said on Monday. 

    UN upgrades Palestinian status, bolstering statehood claim

    Israel has previously frozen payments to the Palestinian Authority during times of heightened security and diplomatic tensions, provoking strong international criticism, such as when the U.N. cultural body UNESCO granted the Palestinians full membership a year ago. 

    Abbas's U.N. victory was a diplomatic setback for the United States and Israel, which were joined by only seven other countries in voting against upgrading the Palestinians' observer status to "non-member state", like the Vatican, from "entity." 

    Hours after the U.N. vote, Israel said it would authorize 3,000 new settler homes in the West Bank and East Jerusalem and expedite planning work for thousands more in a geographically sensitive area close to Jerusalem. Critics say this plan would kill off Palestinian hopes of a viable state. 

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    Now why does this not surprise me.

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  • 29
    Nov
    2012
    3:26pm, EST

    UN upgrades Palestinian status, bolstering statehood claim

    Palestinians had a major symbolic victory when the United Nations General Assembly voted overwhelmingly to recognize them, but the U.S. argued the new status could set back Palestinians in the path to peace. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

    By NBC News staff and wire services

    The U.N. General Assembly approved a resolution on Thursday giving implicit recognition to Palestinian statehood despite threats by the United States and Israel to punish the Palestinian Authority by withholding funds for the West Bank government.


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    The resolution, which lifts the Palestinian Authority's U.N. observer status from "entity" to "non-member state," like the Vatican possesses, easily passed the 193-nation General Assembly with 138 nations voting in favor, and nine opposed, including the United States. Forty-one countries abstained, including the United Kingdom.

    Israel, the United States and the other members who opposed the resolution see it as a largely symbolic and counterproductive move by the Palestinians. The vote took place on the 65th anniversary of the assembly's adoption of resolution 181 on the partition of Palestine into Jewish and Arab states.


    Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has led the campaign to win support for the resolution, which follows an eight-day conflict this month between Israel and Islamists in the Gaza Strip, who are pledged to Israel's destruction and oppose his efforts toward a negotiated peace.

    The U.S. State Department made a last-ditch effort to get Abbas to reconsider, but the Palestinian Authority, which exercises limited self-rule in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, held firm. 

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, speaking at the Brookings Institution on Thursday, said the U.S. believes the resolution will "do nothing to advance the peace and the two-state solution we all want to see."

    She noted that while the U.S. planned to vote "no," she played down differences with key diplomatic partners in Europe, including France, which were expected to vote in favor of the resolution.

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    A Palestinian man shouts slogans during a rally in the West Bank city of Ramallah on Thursday. The U.N. General Assembly overwhelmingly approved a resolution on Thursday to upgrade the Palestinian Authority's observer status at the United Nations.

    "We and our European partners agree on the most fundamental issues and share a common objective — two states living side-by-side living in peace and security," Clinton said.

    Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the U.N., said in a statement after the vote that "the only way to establish such a Palestinian state and resolve all permanent-status issues is through the crucial, if painful, work of direct negotiations between the parties."

    "The United States therefore calls upon both the parties to resume direct talks without preconditions on all the issues that divide them," Rice said.

    The U.K. had committed to voting for the resolution if Abbas had shown commitment to resuming peace negotiations without preconditions. Lacking that assurance, Britain abstained from the vote.

    Following the vote at the UN General Assembly the Britain's Foreign Secretary William Hague said: "We continue to believe that the prospects for a swift return to negotiations on a two state solution — the only way to create a Palestinian state on the ground — would be greater today if President Abbas had been able to give the assurances we suggested, and without which we were unable to vote in favor of the resolution.

    UN Palestinian statehood vote to be a personal political victory for Abbas 

    "In particular, we called on President Abbas to set out a willingness to return to negotiations without preconditions, and to signal that the Palestinians would not immediately seek action in the International Criminal Court, which would be likely to make a return to negotiations impossible.

    "Nonetheless, we will redouble our efforts to restart the peace process, and will continue our strong support for President Abbas, the Palestinian Authority, and a two state solution," he said.

    Despite its fierce opposition, Israel made efforts that appeared designed to prevent diplomatic isolation. In recent days, it toned down threats of retaliation in the face of wide international support for the initiative, notably among its European allies.

    "The decision at the United Nations will change nothing on the ground," Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in Jerusalem. "It will not advance the establishment of a Palestinian state. It will delay it further."

    But U.N. diplomats say that Israel's reaction might not be so measured if the Palestinians seek ICC action against Israel on charges of war crimes, crimes against humanity or other crimes the court would have jurisdiction over.

    U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice addresses the assembly following a vote on whether to recognize a single Palestinian state.

    Granting Palestinians the title of "non-member observer state" falls short of full U.N. membership — something the Palestinians failed to achieve last year. But it does allow them access to the International Criminal Court and other international bodies, should they choose to join them.

    Speaking at an annual U.N. event in support of the Palestinians, Palestinian Foreign Minister Riyad al-Maliki appealed to U.N. member states to support Thursday's U.N. resolution. He also repeated his support for peace with Israel.

    "Despite diminishing hopes and the decline of the situation on the ground due to Israel violations, we remain committed to the two-state solution and our hand remains extended in peace," he said at U.N. headquarters in New York.

    State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland reiterated U.S. warnings that the move could cause a reduction of U.S. economic support for the Palestinians. The Israelis have also warned they might take significant deductions out of monthly transfers of duties that Israel collects on the Palestinians' behalf.

    Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov was quoted by the Interfax news agency as calling on Washington and Israel to avoid "any hasty and destructive decisions."

    "Supporting the Palestinian authorities is not only in the interest of the Palestinian side, but also of Israel and the whole international community that is longing for a peaceful political settlement," he said.

    The European Union, a key donor for the Palestinians, has made clear it will not curtail aid after Thursday's vote.

    U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon also called for a revival of the peace process: "Israelis and Palestinians must break out of a zero-sum mentality, and embrace a peaceful path forward."

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    Flag-waving Palestinians thronged the squares of the West Bank and Gaza Strip before Thursday's vote. In a rare show of unity, Abbas's Islamist rivals Hamas, who have ruled Gaza since a brief civil war in 2007, let backers of the president's Fatah movement hold demonstrations there.

    Peace talks have been stalled for two years, mainly over Israeli settlements in the West Bank, which have expanded despite being deemed illegal by most of the world. There are 4.3 million Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza.

    In the draft resolution, the Palestinians have pledged to relaunch the peace process immediately following the U.N. vote.

    With strong support from the developing world that makes up the majority of U.N. members, it is virtually assured of securing more than the requisite simple majority. Palestinian officials hope for more than 130 yes votes.

    Abbas has focused on securing as many votes as possible from Europe, and his efforts appear to have paid off.

    Going into the vote, Austria, Denmark, Norway, Finland, France, Greece, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Malta, Portugal, Spain, Sweden and Switzerland had all pledged to support the resolution. 

    NBC News' Kari Huus and Reuters contributed to this report. 

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    ONE STATE- declares UN-Secretary General's twitter. State of Palesttine. Never before has there been such a colossal diplomatic faux pas (almost makes one think it is intentional). This is inexusable.

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  • 27
    Nov
    2012
    2:09pm, EST

    Arafat's exhumation: Palestinians' desire for truth might be dashed again

    Labs in France, Russia and Switzerland will conduct independent tests of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's bone samples, searching for evidence that he could have been poisoned. NBC's Martin Fletcher reports.

    By John Ray, NBC News

    RAMALLAH, West Bank — For a fateful scene in a murder mystery, it was all a little low key.


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    Steel-gray skies, a modest guard of honor and a somber ceremony as Yasser Arafat’s tomb was resealed.

    It had taken scientists from Russia, France and Switzerland just a few hours to gather the evidence they came for.

    No need to exhume the body. Instead they took samples that they will now examine for the deadly radioactive element polonium.

    Already some experts warn that their findings are almost certain to be inconclusive.


    Too much time has elapsed, they caution. And even if investigators find traces of toxin, it won’t answer this question: Who administered the fatal dose?

    Arafat's body exhumed; experts to investigate if he was poisoned

    No matter. Almost any Palestinian you ask already has an answer: Israel is the assassin.

    After all, a man who was to Palestinians the ultimate fighter for freedom was to Israel too often the odious face of terror.

    And in 30 years of conflict the Israelis pursued him to Lebanon before finally cornering him in his West Bank compound, the Muqata’a.

    Rebuilt from the rubble left by its destruction by Israel, it now houses the gleaming marble mausoleum that is Arafat’s final resting place.

    Today it was shrouded in blue sheets to shield the scientists from view as they went about their grim business.

    "The time has come to find the proof. And to bring justice. I think he deserves it, and the Palestinian people deserve it,’’ says noted Palestinian activist Mustafa Barghouti.

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    A Palestinian security forces member walks outside the grave of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat in the West Bank city of Ramallah, Nov. 27, 2012.

    For the record, Israel enters a strenuous plea of not guilty, courtesy of Ra’anan Gissan, who in 2004 was an adviser to Israel’s then-Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

    Did Israel order the death of Arafat? I ask him.

    "I can tell you, a definite, absolute no,’’ he says. "They used to say that our snipers had Arafat in their sights and the decision was not to kill him."

    Palestinians: Settlers threaten West Bank's centuries-old olive harvest tradition

    Today's examination was prompted by a television investigation that found polonium on samples of clothing, including Arafat's iconic kaffiya headdress, provided by his widow.

    But the timing is fortuitous, even if it is, as the Palestinians on the West Bank insist, a coincidence that later this week Arafat's successor heads to the United Nations.

    Palestinians have begun to exhume the body of Palestine Liberation Organization leader Yasser Arafat in an attempt to determine whether he was assassinated by lethal doses of radioactive poison. NBC's John Ray reports.

    Mahmoud Abbas is to ask the UN General Assembly to grant his Palestinian Authority a form of recognition known as non-member observer status.

    It would put the Palestinians on the same diplomatic footing as the Vatican but more crucially on open important legal route to potentially suing the Israel’s occupying forces for war crimes through international courts.

    The mathematics is looking good for Abbas — good news for a leader who hasn’t had much to celebrate of late. 

    His Palestinian rivals in Gaza, the militants of Hamas, have been buoyed by the short war with Israel and claim they’ve achieved more in a week than Abbas has won in nearly a decade of failed negotiation.

    Win at the UN on Thursday, and Abbas has something to show for his strategy. 

    Perhaps then even Yasser Arafat’s spirit might be permitted to rest a little more peacefully.

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    Arafat was a traitor to his people. He could have used the billions of aid money to promote palestinian well being, health, jobs, education, housing through peace instead of rejecting all he was given during clinton administration - let alone the hundreds of millions in stolen money his wife is usin …

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    Palestinian leader's refugee comments shatter taboo, reignite debate in Israel

    Mohamad Torokman / Reuters, file

    Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas waves as he arrives to vote in municipal elections at a polling station in Al-Bireh, West Bank, on Oct. 20.

    By NBC News staff and wire reports

    JERUSALEM -- The Palestinian president has set off a strident debate by shattering a once-inviolable taboo, publicly suggesting his people would have to relinquish claims to ancestral homes in Israel.

    Mahmoud Abbas' comments on the refugee issue, made in an interview on Israeli TV over the weekend, triggered hot responses from Palestinians and Israelis alike.

    In Israel, it suddenly put the long-sidelined issue of peace talks back in the Israeli public's consciousness ahead of parliamentary elections.

    Palestinians have demanded that as many as five million of their compatriots -- original war refugees and their descendants -- be granted the right of return to towns and villages that became part of Israel after its founding in 1948. The establishment of the modern state of Israel is referred to in Arabic as “al Nakba,” or “the catastrophe.”

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    Israel, saying an influx of refugees would eliminate its Jewish majority, has proposed they be resettled in a future Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, territories it occupied in a 1967 war. Israel also rejects the concept of a legal "right of return."

    In the interview, Abbas was asked about his birthplace of Safed -- now a town in northern Israel. He told the interviewer that while he would like to visit, he does not claim the right to live there.

    Dan Balilty / AP, file

    People walk the streets of Safed, northern Israel, on Oct. 12. Safed is the birthplace of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas.

    "I am a refugee, but I am living in Ramallah (in the West Bank). I believe that the West Bank and Gaza is Palestine. And the other parts is Israel," Abbas said in English. "I want to see Safed. It is my right to see it, but not to live there," he said.

    ‘Realistic’ or ‘a failure’?
    The comments were widely seen as an acknowledgment that return of all the refugees would be impossible. While Palestinian officials privately acknowledge that, they have been reluctant to say so in public.

    His adviser, Nimr Hammad, said Abbas was being "realistic."

    "He knows he can't bring back 5.5 million Palestinian refugees to Israel," Hammad said.

    Some West Bank Palestinians were disappointed that their leader had made an overture to Israel without receiving any gestures in exchange.

    "President Abbas is a failure," said Iyad Alotol, a government employee in Ramallah. "He is ceding the right of return without getting anything from the Israelis. He is a man who makes concessions for free."

    Later Saturday, Abbas appeared to pull back from his comments, telling Egypt's al-Hayat television in Arabic: "Speaking about Safed was a personal position and it did not mean conceding the right of return."

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    Abbas, an outspoken proponent of a diplomatic solution with Israel, has little to show for his efforts. He has seen his popularity steadily decline in the West Bank, and in 2007, he lost control of the Gaza Strip to the rival Islamic militant Hamas.

    Condemnation of Abbas predictably was harsh in Gaza. Hamas rejects negotiations and believe only violence will persuade Israel to give up captured territory.

    Gaza Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh termed Abbas' remarks "extremely dangerous." At demonstrations in Gaza on Saturday, some protesters burned posters of a smiling Abbas, and others emblazoned the word "traitor" on posters of the Palestinian leader.

    Mohammed Saber / EPA

    Palestinians supporting Hamas burn posters showing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas during a demonstration Saturday in the Jabaliya refugee camp in the northern Gaza Strip.

    Cool reaction from Netanyahu
    In Israel, officials debated how serious Abbas was.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and members of his Cabinet reacted coolly, even mistrustfully, to Abbas' remarks.

    "I watched President Abbas's interview at the weekend, and I heard that since then he has already managed to recant," Netanyahu told his cabinet, urging Abbas to return to direct peace negotiations, suspended since 2010, to clarify his positions.

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    Israeli moderates warned against missing a chance to negotiate with a person they consider a partner for peacemaking.

    The Abbas interview appeared to be aimed at soothing Israeli concerns before he goes to the United Nations later this month in hopes of winning "nonmember state" observer status for a Palestinian state inside the West Bank, Gaza Strip and east Jerusalem.

    Israel opposes the U.N. bid, accusing Abbas of trying to sidestep the negotiating process. It says the borders of a Palestinian state can be determined only through direct negotiations.


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    "Peace can be advanced only around the negotiating table, and not through unilateral resolutions at the U.N. General Assembly, which will only put peace further away and bring about instability," Netanyahu said.

    "I think President Abbas wanted to convey a message of assurance to the Israelis ahead of their elections, that he wants to have a state within the 1967 borders and doesn't seek war or to delegitimize Israel," said Palestinian analyst Bassem Zbaidi. "He told them, I'm not going to the U.N. to besiege you, on the contrary, I'm going to make peace with you."

    In an editorial on Monday, the left-leaning Haaretz Daily showed support for Abbas, who it described as a “brave and pragmatic Palestinian leader who supports resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict peacefully.”

    “It is disappointing that the political parties fighting for a spot in the center of the Israeli political map have responded so coolly to the encouraging messages relayed by the Palestinian leader,” the newspaper said.

    But the conservative Jerusalem Post was more critical. In an editorial, the newspaper argued that official backtracking on Abbas’ comments by the president and the Palestinian Authority showed that mass Palestinian opinion remained opposed to genuine concessions to Israel.

    “Abbas is paying for his own and his leadership’s insistence on saying one thing in public and something else altogether behind closed doors or in an interview aimed at the Israel public,” it said.

    Peace process back at the fore
    Abbas' remarks returned the moribund state of peacemaking to the center of Israeli political discourse. With peace efforts frozen for the past four years, Israeli leaders have been preoccupied with Iran's suspect nuclear program and local economic issues, and the Palestinian issue has not been a major factor in the campaign for Jan. 22 parliamentary elections.

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    Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak, a former prime minister who has been closely involved in peace efforts over the past two decades, said Palestinians have assured Israeli counterparts that they would be willing to agree to this compromise on the refugee issue.

    "We can't say that we don't have a partner for peacemaking. Abu Mazen has expressed willingness to forfeit the 'right of return' in closed talks, too," Barak said, using Abbas' nickname.

    Ten years ago, New Jersey resident Claire Ginsburg started collecting used teddy bears from people across the U.S. About 130,000 have now made the 5,600-mile journey to a hospital in Israel. NBC News' Paul Goldman reports.

    Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, who made a peace proposal to Abbas in 2008, issued a harsh statement accusing Netanyahu of missing a critical opportunity to pursue peace.

    "This policy toward the only partner possible for peace between us and the Palestinians is irresponsible and can damage the most vital Israeli interests," Olmert said. He said the Abbas interview "proves to the Israeli public that there is someone to speak to and things to discuss with the goal of solving this bloody conflict."

    NBC News staff, The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.

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    The Conservatives in Israel need a hostile Palestine, without which they cant whip up the public to support their conservative agenda. Without a enemy Israel would have to make concessions to Palestine and that isnt in the conservatives interest of settling the west bank. Notice how quickly Netanyah …

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