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  • 24
    Jan
    2013
    6:08pm, EST

    Steeple, cross at U.S. Army base on Afghan frontier raise hackles

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    The chapel at U.S. Forward Operating Base Orgun-E, Afghanistan with its makeshift steeple and cross on Jan. 19, 2013

    By Kari Huus, Staff writer, NBC News

    U.S. military commanders in Afghanistan on Thursday ordered the removal of a steeple and crucifix erected over a remote American base in the Muslim country after a soldier deployed there noted that the symbols violated Army regulations, and could reinforce suspicions that the United States is fighting a holy war.

    It is unclear how long ago the Christian symbols at the chapel at Forward Operating Base Orgun-E had been in place. In terms of religious displays, they are hardly ostentatious — a cross on a small rooftop steeple and cross-shaped windows in the doors. But Sgt. Joel Muhlnickel was alarmed by the symbolism at Orgun-E, especially the cross that rises up over the rooftops at the base.


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    "When I think of an army sporting a Christian cross, I think Crusades," Muhlnickel wrote on Facebook from Orgun — a message that was forwarded to NBC News by a third party. "Neither my country nor my army force me to swear allegiance to Odin, Jesus, Buddha or Horus. Freedom from religious oppression is pretty much the reason why the United States was founded."


    "It is the sort of thing that provides a boundless bonanza of terrorist propaganda for the mujahedeen, the insurrectionists, the Taliban and al-Qaida that we are supposedly fighting to protect our national security," said Mikey Weinstein, founder and president of the non-profit Military Religious Freedom Foundation. "The message of the cross on the chapel is basically putting out the message in Pashto, Dari and Arabic to please blow me up because I'm a latter day Christian crusader."

    The U.S. military provides chapels for troops around the world and has thousands of chaplains deployed — the majority of them Christian, while there are also Jewish, Muslim and other faith leaders.

    Chapels are set up even in outposts as far-flung as Orgun-E.

    But Army regulations state that these facilities — usually nondescript temporary structures — are to be neutral gathering spaces, not dedicated to any one faith, except when being used for a specific worship service. Portable symbols, icons or statues can be used during religious services, but then must be removed or covered up for others who use the space.

    "In general the chapels have to be ecumenical so they can be converted from one religion to another," said Elizabeth Hillman, professor of law at University of California Hastings College of Law and President of the National Institute of Military Justice. "To create permanent structures that evoke one particular religion — that is problematic.

    "I would think that anything that would increase the vulnerability of a forward operating base is a problematic," Hillman added.

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    The chapel at Forward Operating Base Orgun-E, Afghanistan on Jan. 19, 2013. Military command has ordered the crosses to be boarded over until the facility can get new doors, to restore the chapel's religious neutrality.

    Muhlnickel raised his concerns through his chain of command, and then — unconvinced that it would result in action — turned to outside organizations, including the nonprofit American Atheists.

    "Chaplains know the regulations very well," said Justin Griffith, an Army sergeant at Fort Bragg, N.C., and military director for American Atheists in his personal time. "Whoever authorized (the steeple and crosses) knew exactly what they were doing. It's intentionally disrespectful to the non-Christians in the U.S. military ... Put it in Afghanistan, the danger is very real, to personnel, even to Christians."

    The Army, contacted by NBC on Tuesday morning, responded to queries Wednesday afternoon, saying the cross had been removed and boards had been placed over the cross-shaped windows while the base ordered new doors.

    "The local command in Afghanistan is aware of this chapel and has taken appropriate action to ensure that it is changed into a neutral facility," said a statement from an Army Spokesman at the Pentagon.

    Hours later, Orgun command sent out a memo throughout the base explaining that the chapel was to be brought into compliance by eliminating the crosses, and assuring soldiers that it would be handled in a respectful manner.

    Griffith, an atheist who often calls out practices that he believes cross the line from the free exercise of religion to unconstitutional proselytizing or discrimination, has learned that his views are unpopular with many in the military. He's concerned about Muhlnickel suffering reprisal. 

    "Sgt. Muhlnickel’s efforts just put the pin back in the grenade," said Griffith. "The military now needs to protect him from any backlash ... and not punish him for speaking out against the dangerous 'crusader' symbolism."

    In similar situations that have come to light, military commanders have ordered the removal of the religious symbols. In April 2012, when a Marine Corps squadron revived the "Crusaders" name with the shield and cross logo for fighter jets, the Military Religious Freedom Foundation challenged the move, citing constitutional and security concerns. The next month, the Marine Corps said that the squadron had converted back to the moniker "Werewolves," replacing the logos from the jets, uniforms, buildings and elsewhere.

    A chapel at Camp Marmal, another U.S. base in northern Afghanistan, was ordered to remove a large cross from its chapel after complaints, Politico reported. A spokesman from the Pentagon agreed that the Camp Marmal cross had violated Army regulations.

    In Afghanistan, where the population is more than 99 percent Muslim, the tiny Christian population worships in secret, out of fear of attack by extremist Muslims. Christian evangelism is illegal in the country, and foreigners suspected of spreading Christian teachings have been deported by the government, and attacked and kidnapped by extremists.

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    I can honestly say that my moral is effected by repetitive religious propaganda. It's hard enough having to listen to the long prayers at first formation and during military formal functions. I don't care if Xtians want to display their religious symbols in their own homes and on private property, b …

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  • 21
    Dec
    2012
    5:01pm, EST

    Christians in the Biblical town of Bethlehem prepare for Christmas

    Ammar Awad / Reuters

    A worshipper prays in the Church of the Nativity, the site revered as the birthplace of Jesus, ahead of Christmas in the West Bank town of Bethlehem on Dec. 21, 2012.

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    Pilgrims from Italy join a procession through the Church of the Nativity down into the 'Grotto,' traditionally accepted as the birthplace of Jesus Christ, in the West Bank town of Bethlehem on Dec. 21. The church is one of the oldest in the world and pilgrims, tourists and Christian faithful are flocking to the town where Jesus was born in the lead-up to the Christmas festivities.

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    Palestinians surround a cart carrying a wooden statue of baby Jesus before a march in the West Bank town of Bethlehem on Dec. 20, 2012.

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  • 10
    Dec
    2012
    9:50am, EST

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    Filling St. Paul's with yuletide song

    Harry Jackson, 13, the head chorister at St Paul's Cathedral School sings Christmas carols inside the cathedral in central London on Dec. 10. Christmas is a busy time for the choir who will sing to over 20,000 people during the Christmas season.

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  • 6
    Sep
    2012
    3:03pm, EDT

    An embattled minority: Christians in Pakistan

     

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    Pakistani Christians chant prayers during Sunday Mass at a church in a Christian neighborhood in Islamabad on Sept. 2.

    In the wake of the international furor over the case of a young and reportedly mentally handicapped Christian girl arrested in Pakistan after she was accused of insulting Islam, AP photographer Nathalie Bardou took a closer look at the Christian community in Pakistan through the lens of a Christian neighborhood in Islamabad, the capital city. 

     EDITOR'S NOTE: These images were received by NBC News on Sept. 6.

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    Soraya Zafar, 30, hangs an image of Jesus and Mary on the wall of her home before her house receives blessing from the local parish priest.

    Christians are believed to make up two to three percent of Pakistan's population of 190 million people, and many face daily discrimination and hold low-level jobs, such as street sweeping. They often live in slums and celebrate their religion in humble, makeshift churches. 

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    Pakistanis pass a cross on a sign in a Christian neighborhood in Islamabad on Aug. 30.

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    Nazia Mansoor, 26, wears a cross around her neck as she adjusts her hair at her home on Sept. 3.

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    Pakistani men and children attend Sunday Mass on Sept. 2.

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    Pakistani Christians perform their daily prayers on a rooftop on Sept. 2.

     

     

     

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    I see where your coming from rock but we (Christians) enjoy more freedoms here than any where else in the world... would I don't appreciate is the Media and libs "lumping" Christians with Muslims... the above article really outlines the differences. Christians are persecuted every where.

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  • 29
    Jun
    2012
    4:19pm, EDT

    Abed Al Hashlamoun / EPA

    UNESCO grants heritage status to Bethlehem

    A Greek Orthodox sweeps in the Church of the Nativity in the biblical West Bank city of Bethlehem on June 28, 2012. UNESCO voted to grant world heritage status to the Church of the Nativity. The declaration by UN Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization covers the West Bank church, venerated by Christians as the birthplace of Jesus, and the surrounding route taken by religious pilgrims.

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  • 8
    Apr
    2012
    7:08am, EDT

    Christians mark Easter Sunday at ancient holy site; Pope calls for peace in Syria

    Ammar Awad / Reuters

    The Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem Fouad Twal leads Easter Mass in the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem's Old City on Sunday.

    By msnbc.com news services

    JERUSALEM -- Thousands of Christians gathered in Jerusalem for Easter Sunday to commemorate Jesus Christ's resurrection, crowding into one of Christianity's holiest churches, worshipping, singing and praying.

    Catholics and Protestants took in turns to hold ceremonies within the ancient Church of the Holy Sepulcher, built on the site where many Christians believe Jesus was crucified and buried.

    Inside, clergymen in flowing white and gold robes celebrated Mass, the air thick with incense plumes. Believers swarmed through the winding church — a series of cave-like spaces decked with ornate decorations and stairways leading to galleries and descending into dark, cavernous rooms, joined by a soaring dome roof. Different and often feuding Christian sects control parts of the Sepulcher, heavy with incense, filled with scurrying monks and awed crowds.


    Italian Premier Mario Monti, in the church on a private visit, joined the masses of Christian faithful. He shook hands with pilgrims and spoke to monks in the Old City.

    Thousands of Palestinian Catholics smashed boiled egg shells against each other, representing Jesus' emerging from his tomb. They ate circular bread symbolizing his crown of thorns. They greeted each other with the Arabic felicitation, "Christ has arisen," prompting the response: "Verily he has arisen."

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    A Christian devotee re-enacts Jesus' path to his crucifixion during a performance in Seoul, South Korea, on Sunday.

    "Jesus promised us salvation and hopefully, we will be worthy of it, because he is truthful of his promise to us," said local priest Marwan Deidis.

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    There are about 110,000 Arab Christians in the Holy land, along with thousands of Christian foreign workers, asylum seekers, and Russian-speaking immigrants. Tens of thousands of Christian pilgrims from outside the region also flock to Jerusalem and the Holy Land for Easter rites.

    Outside the ancient city's walls, several hundred Protestants gathered in the Garden Tomb, where they believe Jesus was buried. They sat in a sunny, leafy green garden listening to a sermon and sung gospel music.

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    Meanwhile, thousands of other Christians belonging to Eastern Orthodox churches, who celebrate Easter using a different calendar from their Catholic and Protestant brethren, marked Palm Sunday.

    Several dozen Ethiopian Christians who also use the older calendar gathered in a niche of the Sepulcher church, wearing long white robes, decked in white, blue and black rimless hats. They sang in their ancient language, marking off beats with a silver instrument that made a rattling sound.

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    Worshippers hold candles during an Easter Mass in a church in Lahore, Pakistan, on Saturday.

    In the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip, dozens of Greek Orthodox Palestinian Christians celebrated Palm Sunday. They gathered into their tiny stone-built church, painted sky-blue and decorated with icons of Jesus, his mother Mary and other saints. Four young men garbed in white and gold robes sung from prayer books, believers lit candles and chanted in Arabic, recording the journey made to Jerusalem, where his followers decked his path with palms and olive branches.

    "Jesus went to Jerusalem to call people to peace," said Jaber Abdullah Jindi, a Gazan Christian. "And just as he did, we hope that there will be peace in all the region, especially in Palestine."

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    Fishermen dressed as Roman soldiers collapse as they re-enact a scene from the Bible as part of the Easter tradition at a church in Sumartin, Croatia, on Saturday.

    In Rome, meanwhile, Pope Benedict XVI celebrated Mass in sun-drenched, flower-adorned St. Peter's Square, before tens of thousands of people.

    Benedict looked tired at the start of the Mass at an altar set up on the steps outside St. Peter's Basilica.

    He urged the Syrian regime to heed international calls to end bloodshed and commit to dialogue and prayed for peace in coup-struck Mali. As the pope spoke, Syrian troops pounded opposition areas, activists said, killing 74 civilians in an offensive that has sent thousands of refugees surging into Turkey before next week's U.N.-backed ceasefire.

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    Pope Benedict XVI leads the Easter Holy Mass at St Peter's Square on Sunday.

    The pontiff also denounced terrorist attacks in Nigeria that have hit Christians and Muslims alike. Citing emergency officials and witnesses, Reuters reported that a roadside car bomb in Nigeria's northern town of Kaduna killed several people on Easter Sunday. The blast occurred after security officers stopped the driver from approaching a church.

    The pope struggled with hoarseness throughout the Mass before a crowd of more than 100,000 faithful. Only hours earlier he had led a three-hour nighttime Easter vigil inside St. Peter's Basilica.

    At the end of his Easter message, Benedict wished the world a Happy Easter in 65 languages, including Arabic, Hebrew and other languages spoken in the areas in mentioned in his peace appeals.

    The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.

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    170 comments

    For all those who wish to blast us for being silly. Believing in a myth. Putting faith in something not real. Please, be kind. Let us have this one day to celebrate that which we believe in. If you do not believe as we do, then celebrate the holiday as you see fit. Hunt eggs, BBQ in the back yard, d …

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  • 23
    Mar
    2012
    6:21am, EDT

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    People walk past a street artist dressed as a magician performing for money by a church in the main square in Leon, Mexico, on March 22, 2012. Leon's Metropolitan Park has been prepared for more than 100,000 campers in anticipation of the Pope's visit.

    Mexico gets ready for Pope's visit

    The Associated Press reports — Pope Benedict XVI will arrive in Mexico Friday, a decade after his predecessor's last visit, to a very different country and a church that has suffered debilitating setbacks amidst sex abuse scandals and a lower percentage of Mexicans who call themselves Catholic today, compared to a decade ago.

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    What a blithering idiot you are

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  • 11
    Mar
    2012
    1:02am, EST

    UK government will oppose wearing of cross at work, newspaper says

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    The British government will argue in court that Christians don't have a right to wear a cross or crucifix openly at work, the Sunday Telegraph reported.

    The newspaper said the landmark case before the European Court of Human Rights involves two British women who are trying to establish their right to display the cross. The Telegraph said it's the first time the government has had to openly address whether Christians have a right to wear the symbol at work.


    The Sunday Telegraph said it had seen a document that says the government will argue that because it is not a “requirement” of the Christian faith, employers can ban the wearing of the cross.

    In the case before the human rights court, Nadia Eweida and Shirley Chaplin claim that their employers discriminated against them by barring them from wearing the symbols.

    The Telegraph said Lord Carey, the former archbishop of Canterbury, criticized the government's stance and called it another example of Christianity becoming sidelined in official life.

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    I'm an Atheist. And even I believe this goes a bit too far. What people have on their necklaces and what not is their own business and it's really not harming anyone. Like the poster above said, if seeing a cross offends you, then you probably have a serious problem.

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