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  • 15
    Mar
    2013
    2:41pm, EDT

    Amid 'dirty war' debate, Argentines divided by pope's legacy

    The celebration of Argentine Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio's ascension to the highest leadership position in the Catholic Church continued Thursday both in the pews, and slums, of Buenos Aires. NBC's Miguel Almaguer reports.

    By Erika Angulo, Producer, NBC News

    BUENOS AIRES, Argentina – At the Catholic Church of Our Lady of Caacupé, in Barracks, a Buenos Aires neighborhood, people have been gathering daily to share their jubilation over the election of their former parish priest as Pope Francis.

    "We are still flying, we have not woken up," said Rita Espinola. "We thought it would be the Brazilian, then the Italian. And then they said ‘Bergoglio’ and cheers overflowed our neighborhood.”

    The church is the heart of this low-income community of some 35,000, many of them maids and construction workers.

    "This poor, humble place burst with joy when we heard the news," said Father Facundo Berretta, the new leader of the parish who was ordained by the former Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio in 2007.


    Parishioners say they are grateful Bergoglio continued to visit them, even as he climbed through the ranks of the Catholic Church, reaching the position of archbishop and cardinal in 2001. They describe seeing Bergoglio in his robes getting off the bus a few blocks from the church to join them in religious processions.   

    But not all Argentines are such fans. Some critics allege that Bergoglio failed to protect priests and challenge the military dictatorship during Argentina’s so-called “dirty war” from 1976 to 1983.

    The Vatican strongly denied the accusations that Francis was silent during human rights abuses by the former dictatorship on Friday. Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi told reporters the accusations “must be clearly and firmly denied.”

    Erika Angulo/ NBC News

    Rosa Nair Amuedo de Maddalena, a member of the Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo, speaks with reporters in front of Buenos Aires National Cathedral on Thursday. Her daughter was kidnapped during Argentina's so-called 'Dirty War' in 1976.

    Dark chapter
    Still, the elevation of Bergoglio to pope did not stop others from alleging he did not do enough to protect those persecuted by the dictatorship during Argentina’s darkest days.

    On Thursday “Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo" marched around the square in front of the National Cathedral, as they do every Thursday afternoon, demanding justice for their children who disappeared during Argentina’s military dictatorship.

    The mothers, who formed their group in 1977, have long demanded that they be reunited with their missing children. Military leaders have admitted that more than 9,000 are unaccounted for; but the mothers say the number is closer to 30,000.  

    One leader of the group, Ines Vazquez, said Francis is now blessing the world, but he didn't offer blessings for those who were hurt during the time of the dictatorship. She questioned whether the pope will do something to help the mothers' cause in the future.

    Bergoglio was in charge of a Jesuit congregation in 1976 when two priests from the group where abducted by agents of the dictatorship, according to journalist Horacio Verbistky. It was later discovered that the priests, Francisco Jalics and Orlando Yorio, had been tortured.   

    While being questioned by investigators in November 2010, Bergoglio testified that as the priests' superior he had alerted them that they were in danger of falling victim to what he called the "military paranoia" if they continued working in a particular slum. After their abductions, he met with dictator Jorge Videla and with military commanders to advocate for the priests' freedom, he told investigators.  

    The priests survived, but critics say Bergoglio should have publicly defended them and criticized the regime. 

    Nobel Peace Prize winner Adolfo Perez Esquivel wrote in an op-ed published Friday in El Clarin newspaper: "I do not believe Jorge Bergoglio was an accomplice of the dictatorship, but he lacked courage to accompany our fight for human rights during the most difficult times." 

    ‘How far could he have gone to protect people?
    Many well-known Argentinians have come out to defend Bergoglio. Human rights advocate Graciela Fernandez Meijide, who describes herself as an atheist, said speculating about Bergoglio playing a role in the abuses is unfair. 

    "How far could he have gone to protect people?" she asked journalists, describing how her own son was abducted from her house during the dictatorship and she was unable to save him. She said human rights investigators never found proof that Bergoglio was involved.

    She added that she believes Argentine President Cristina Fernandez Kirchner is fomenting the criticism of Bergoglio.

    Relations between the president and the former cardinal could be described as tense. During sermons he often accused the administration of not helping the poor enough and of distorting inflation numbers. But relations became more heated when the cardinal led the fight against the president's attempts to legalize gay marriage in 2010. Bergoglio described it as the devil's work.

    He lost, and gay marriage is now legal in Argentina.  

    However, the president did wish Bergoglio well upon finding out he would be the new pope. 

    ‘A treasure’
    Back at Bergoglio’s old church, parishioners were happy to swap stories about their old priest who last visited on Dec. 8, when he administered the sacrament of confirmation to dozens of neighbors.  

    Raul Valdivieso came to show friends a photo of himself and his wife with Bergoglio. He said the priest baptized most of his family members. "We even ate 'choripan' together,” said Valdivieso, referring to the traditional Argentinian meal of sausage on Italian bread. He also liked drinking "mate," a traditional tea made with herbs, others said.

    "The church today needs a pope with that kind of humility,” said Father Berretta, the parish leader. He added that he is very proud that the church has a Hispanic pope.  "For us he is a treasure."  

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    22 comments

    he went to confession right afterword. hes fine, his sins have been forgiven, as long as he said his 25 hail mary's and 30 lords prayers.

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    15
    Mar
    2013
    7:44pm, EDT

    Vatican says 'dirty war' accusations about Pope Francis just a left-wing smear

    Reports that the leader of Argentina's Jesuits didn't do enough to protect two priests kidnapped and tortured during Argentina's military dictatorship are believed to be anti-clerical elements used to attack the church, according to the Vatican. NBC's Anne Thompson reports.

    By Ian Johnston, Staff Writer, NBC News

    The Vatican on Friday denied “anti-clerical” accusations that Pope Francis failed to protect priests during the so-called “dirty war” waged by Argentinian dictators more than 30 years ago.

    “We have every reason to affirm that these accusations are not reliable and there is no reason for them today to cast a shadow over the new pope,” Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said at a briefing.

    A second spokesman, Father Tom Rosica said the accusations by a Argentinian journalist amounted to a political smear campaign against the new pope, who was known as Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio until his election on Wednesday.

    “They reveal left-wing elements, anti-clerical elements that are used to attack the Church,” Rosica said. “They must be firmly and clearly denied.”

    Bergoglio was not a cardinal, or even a bishop, during the time in question but supervisor of Jesuit priests in Argentina.

    Two Jesuits were kidnapped in 1976 by government agents. Although Bergoglio has said he quietly pushed for their release, he has been dogged by criticism he didn’t do enough to stand up to the military junta or speak out against human-rights abuses.

    The Vatican’s strong defense of Pope Francis came as he met an audience of cardinals, urging them never to give in to the “bitterness” that “the devil places before us every day.”

    During a meeting in the Sistine Chapel, Francis stumbled on the steps to his throne but managed not to fall and quickly smiled.

    Among the challenges faced by the church are allegations of corruption with the Vatican and the ongoing scandal over sex abuse of children by priests.

    Francis may have had those problems in mind when he urged some 150 assembled cardinals to remain hopeful and to keep trying to do the right thing.

    Argentines divided on pope's legacy

    "Let us never give in to the pessimism, to that bitterness, that the devil places before us every day. Let us not give into pessimism and discouragement," he said, according to Reuters.

    The 76-year-old pontiff also said that the church’s elder statesman should help the younger generation of clergy.

    After distancing himself from the traditional pomp and privilege of his new title, Pope Francis – known for his sincerity and frugality – has shown every indication that he plans to remain an educator and a pastor in addition to all of his other responsibilities. NBC's Anne Thompson reports.

    "We are in old age. Old age is the seat of wisdom," he said, according to Reuters. "Like good wine that becomes better with age, let us pass on to young people the wisdom of life."

    Francis also paid tribute to Emeritus Pope Benedict, who decided to stand down last month.

    Benedict had "lit a flame in the depths of our hearts that will continue to burn because it is fueled by his prayers that will support the church on its missionary path,” Francis said, according to The Associated Press.

    "In these years of his pontificate, he enriched and invigorated the church with his magisterium, his goodness, guide and faith … his humility and his gentleness,” he added.

    Francis has brought to the papacy a new tone of informality -- some of his remarks Friday were said to be unscripted and he spoke from the pulpit, not the throne -- and an ordinary touch.

    He was pictured paying his own hotel bill, and in Argentina people told of how he used to regularly ride the bus as a cardinal. He has been dubbed the "slum pope" because of his work in poor areas of his home country.

    Cardinal Sean O'Malley, archbishop of Boston, said that Francis "coming out of Latin America is very much impassioned by a desire to make the church present to people in suffering."

    Reuters and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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    This story was originally published on Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:20 AM EDT

    296 comments

    Dare one hope, this man actually seems to be a Christian!

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  • 6
    Jul
    2012
    4:32am, EDT

    'Wasn't just one or two children': Ex-Argentine dictators jailed for baby thefts

    Enrique Marcarian / Reuters

    Members of human rights groups and other organisation react after hearing the verdict in the trial of former Argentine dictator Jorge Videla and other military officers in Buenos Aires on Thursday.

    By msnbc.com news services

    BUENOS AIRES, Argentina -- Three key figures from Argentina's "Dirty War" got hefty jail terms for the systematic theft of babies from political prisoners during the 1976-1983 dictatorship, an Argentine court ruled on Thursday.

    The missing children -- stolen from their parents and illegally adopted, often by military families --  are one of the most painful legacies of the crackdown on leftist dissent in which rights groups say up to 30,000 people were killed.



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    Just over 100 of the children have discovered their true identities, but many families are still searching more than three decades later. Activists say there could be several hundred more individuals who do not know they were taken as babies from their parents.

    "This is what we were seeking. We never wanted revenge, we were never hateful, we didn't ask for anything more than justice and justice has been done," an elderly man who identified himself as Francisco Madariaga's grandfather told local television. 

    More photos: Tears flow as 'stolen babies' trial comes to an end

    The sentences in the case known as "The Systematic Plan" investigated the theft and illegal adoption of 34 of the stolen infants. 

    The 11 defendants included former junta leaders Jorge Rafael Videla, 86, and Reynaldo Bignone, 84, and ex-navy officer Jorge Acosta, 71, -- known as The Tiger. They are already serving life sentences for previous human rights convictions. 

    Argentine dictators go on trial for baby thefts

    Videla was sentenced to 50 years in prison as the architect of the plan, while Acosta got 30 years and Bignone got 15. The other defendants were also ordered to serve sentences of various lengths. 

    Natacha Pisarenko / AP

    Former dictators Jorge Rafael Videla, second from right, and Reynaldo Bignone, right, wait to listen the verdict of Argentina's historic stolen babies trial in Buenos Aires, Argentina, on Thursday.

    Videla, who is unrepentant about rights abuses committed by the state, described himself as a "political prisoner" during the trial and said any abductions that did take place were not part of a systematic plan. 

    "The women giving birth, who I respect as mothers, were militants who were active in the machine of terror," the former dictator said in his closing remarks. "Many used their unborn children as human shields." 

    The baby thefts set Argentina's 1976-1983 regime apart from all the other juntas that ruled in Latin America at the time. Videla other military and police officials were determined to remove any trace of the armed leftist guerrilla movement they said threatened the country's future.

    "This is an historic day. Today legal justice has been made real — never again the justice of one's own hands, which the repressors were known for," prominent rights activist Tati Almeida said outside the courthouse, where a jubilant crowd watched on a big screen and cheered each sentence.

    500 babies stolen?
    Witnesses included former U.S. diplomat Elliot Abrams. He was called to testify after a long-classified memo describing his secret meeting with Argentina's ambassador was made public at the request of the Grandmothers of the Plaza de Mayo, a human rights group whose evidence-gathering efforts were key to the trial. 

    Abrams testified from Washington that he secretly urged Bignone to reveal the stolen babies' identities as a way to smooth Argentina's return to democracy. 

    Thirty years after the collapse of Argentina's brutal military dictatorship, Alfredo Astiz, the so-called "Blond Angel of Death" and 11 others have been jailed for human rights abuses. Europe's Channel 4's Jonathan Miller reports.

    "We knew that it wasn't just one or two children," Abrams testified, suggesting that there must have been some sort of directive from a high level official — "a plan, because there were many people who were being murdered or jailed." 

    No reconciliation effort was made. Instead, Bignone ordered the military to destroy evidence of "dirty war" activities, and the junta denied any knowledge of baby thefts, let alone responsibility for the disappearances of political prisoners. 

    The U.S. government also revealed little of what it knew as the junta's death squads were eliminating opponents. 

    The Grandmothers group has since used DNA evidence to help 106 people who were stolen from prisoners as babies recover their true identities, and 26 of these cases were part of this trial. Many were raised by military officials or their allies, who falsified their birth names, trying to remove any hint of their leftist origins. 

    UK slams Argentina 'harassment' over Falklands

    The rights group estimates as many as 500 babies could have been stolen in all, but the destruction of documents and passage of time make it impossible to know for sure. 

    The trial featured gut-wrenching testimony from grandmothers and other relatives who searched inconsolably for their missing relatives, and from people who learned as young adults that they were raised by the very people involved in the disappearance of their birth parents. 

    Six others were convicted and sentenced by the three-judge panel on Thursday: former Adm. Antonio Vanek, 40 years; former Gen. Santiago Omar Riveros, 20; former navy prefect Juan Antonio Azic, 14; and Dr. Jorge Magnacco, who witnesses said handled some of the births, 10. 

    Former Capt. Victor Gallo and his ex-wife Susana Colombo, were sentenced to 15 and five years in jail, respectively. Their adopted son, Francisco Madariaga, testified against them and said he hoped their sentences would set an example. 

    Retired Adm. Ruben Omar Franco and a former intelligence agent, Eduardo Ruffo, were absolved. 

    According to Argentine judicial procedure, the basis for the convictions and sentences won't be revealed until Sept. 17, said the president of the judicial tribunal, Maria del Carmen Roqueta. 

    Reuters and The Associate Press contributed to this report. 

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    too much Nazi blood down there.

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