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  • 11
    Apr
    2013
    12:17pm, EDT

    UK cops make first arrests for 'hate crime' against emo subculture

    By Alastair Jamieson, Staff writer, NBC News

    Two people were arrested in Britain Thursday over an assault on an "emo" teenager -- the first such move after police began recording attacks on subculture members as “hate crimes.”

    The term, short for “emotive” or “emotional,” usually refers to an introspective style of music -- somewhere between punk and grunge -- and its associated fashion styles.

    Earlier this month, Greater Manchester Police became the first force in the U.K. to treat attacks on groups such as goths, emos and punks in the same way as crimes based on race, religion, disability or sexual orientation.

    The 16-year-old victim was “distinctively dressed as an emo” in an eastern suburb of the northern England city when he was punched in the face Monday evening, the Manchester Evening News newspaper said.

    The victim “describes himself as an emo,” police said in a statement, adding that officers had arrested a 14-year-old boy and a 44-year-old man over the attack.

    “The assault has been reported as an alternative subculture hate crime and will be investigated as such,” the statement added.

    A spokesman for Greater Manchester Police said the injured teen was hit "several times."

    Garry Shewan, assistant chief constable of Greater Manchester Police, said:  "It is unfortunate that this incident happened, but the fact we were able to identify this as a hate crime is very positive. Just last Thursday we announced that we will now record alternative subculture as a hate motivation."

    Lancashire Police / PA via AP

    Sophie Lancaster was fatally attacked in a park in Lancashire, northern England, because of her goth appearance in 2007.

    "We hope this encourages victims to continue to come forward so we can take positive action against offenders," he added.

    In England, a hate crime is defined by prosecutors as “a criminal offense motivated by prejudice based on a person's disability, race, religion, gender or sexual orientation.”

    The decision by police to include subcultures was partly a result of the 2007 killing of Sophie Lancaster, a 20-year-old in the northern England county of Lancashire, who was kicked and stamped to death for being a goth.

    Related:

    Iraqi teens stoned to death for wearing 'emo' clothes

    TODAY: What exactly is emo anyway?

     

    176 comments

    Their music sucks and they dress like idiots but they don't deserve to get beat up. I don't see how this is a hate crime though.

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  • Updated
    1
    Apr
    2013
    3:32pm, EDT

    Toy model of Jabba The Hutt's palace resembles a mosque, group says

    Lego

    Birol Kilic, chairman of the Turkish Cultural Association of Austria, says the Lego play set modeled on the Jabba The Hutt alien's fictional home was culturally insensitive.

    By Carlo Angerer, Producer, NBC News

    MUNICH – Danish toy maker Lego plans to stop selling a model of the “palace” of slug-like Star Wars character Jabba The Hutt after complaints that it resembles a revered mosque, according to a group that raised the grievance.

    Birol Kilic, chairman of the Turkish Cultural Association of Austria, said Monday the play set modeled on the obese alien’s fictional home was culturally insensitive.

    Photo by Julian Finney / Getty Images

    Birol Kilic, chairman of the Turkish Cultural Association of Austria, said the Lego version of Jabba The Hutt's palace resembles Istanbul's Hagia Sophia, a historic mosque that became a model for other centers of Islam and is now a museum.

    “This does not belong in children’s bedrooms,” he said. “And the minaret-like tower features machine guns. Children will become insensitive to violence and other cultures.”

    After a meeting between his organization and the company last week in Munich, Germany, Lego promised to stop selling the play set, Kilic said.

    Lego posted on Twitter Monday that it has always intended to stop selling the item at the end of the year. “We only keep a product in the assortment for a few years and it was scheduled to exit in 2013 from launch,” the tweet said.

    However, there was no mention of those original plans in a January press release which said: “The LEGO Group regrets that the product has caused the members of the Turkish cultural community to interpret it wrongly.”

    Roar Trangbæk, a Lego spokesman, on Monday denied that the group had anything to do with their decision.

    “The decision to terminate this particular product is not based on any dialogue with the mentioned community," Trangbæk said. "We regret the misinterpretation but we fully stand behind the product.”

    Trangbæk also said that it is the company's policy not to design models that depict religious structures. 

    The Danish toy giant has in recent years made building sets modeled on hit movies including Harry Potter, Indiana Jones, and Star Wars.

    In the 1983 science-fiction blockbuster “Return of the Jedi”, Jabba uses Princess Leia as his slave at the palace.

    @danbarker Actually not. We only keep a product in the assortment for a few years and it was scheduled to exit in 2013 from launch.

    — The LEGO Group (@LEGO_Group) April 1, 2013

    Lego

    Birol Kilic, chairman of the Turkish Cultural Association of Austria, says the Lego play set modeled on the Jabba the Hutt alien's fictional home was culturally insensitive.

    Kilic believed that the Lego version, aimed at 9- to 14-year-olds, resembles Istanbul’s Hagia Sophia, a historic mosque that became a model for other centers of Islam and is now a museum in the Turkish city.

    Kilic said his organization was notified of the issue by an outraged Austrian father, whose sister had given the Lego set to his son last Christmas. The father returned the toy to the store, Kilic said, and the Turkish Cultural Association petitioned Lego to drop the play set from its line-up.

    Kilic said the issue was not merely cultural, but also a reminder that parents should be more thoughtful about what toys their kids play with.

    “We’re not the Taliban of Vienna,” he said of his independent, Vienna-based organization with about 700 members, “but we do give thought to our country and our continent.”

     

    This story was originally published on Mon Apr 1, 2013 10:44 AM EDT

    670 comments

    My God. Now kids toys are causing Islam to get it's knickers in a knot. I guess this will start another riot. At least they did not say the Jabba the Hutt looked liked one of their own. However, the man who made the complaint's son got the toy for Christmas? What is wrong with this picture?

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  • 16
    Feb
    2013
    4:32am, EST

    'Fraud on a massive scale': Europe's horse meat scandal keeps on growing

    Bernd Thissen / AFP - Getty Images

    A laboratory assistant prepares a sample of lasagna for a DNA test at a veterinary research facility in Germany Thursay.

    By Ian Johnston, Staff Writer, NBC News

    LONDON -- When officials in Ireland made a routine check on a few hamburgers, what they found made them nervous: One burger was actually nearly one-third horse.

    It was a discovery that has sent shock waves reverberating across Europe.

    Since the disturbing DNA test results were disclosed last month, horse meat has been found masquerading as beef in countries including the U.K., France, Germany, Sweden and Norway. 

    A small amount of horse meat was also found by British officials to contain a banned drug that, in high enough doses, could be fatal, although U.K. Chief Medical Officer Sally Davies has stressed there is a "very low risk indeed" that eating contaminated meat would be harmful.

    As supermarket shelves were cleared, meat suppliers in Ireland, the U.K., France, Cyprus, the Netherlands, Romania and elsewhere have come under scrutiny.

    Jean-Philippe Arles / Reuters

    A dump truck is filled up with blocks of meat at French meat processor Spanghero's factory in Castelnaudary near Toulouse, France, Friday.

    Some in Western Europe have pointed the finger particularly at Romania, where a ban on horses in cities and the tough economic climate have been cited as reasons for a rise in exports of horse meat. The Romanians have insisted the meat was properly labeled as horse when it left the country, Reuters reported. 

    According to French investigators, one French firm alone made a profit of $733,800 over six months by selling cheaper horse meat as beef in a supply chain involving 28 companies in 13 countries, Reuters reported. The company, Spanghero, protested its innocence Friday.

    Intelligence agency Europol -- normally tasked with combating the trafficking of guns, drugs and humans -- was brought in to investigate what one British lawmaker has described as an “international criminal conspiracy.” Three arrests -- the first over the scandal -- were made in the U.K. on Thursday. 

    Expert: Watch what you eat
    Some officials believe only the “tip of the iceberg” has been revealed, and on Friday the European Union endorsed a major DNA-testing program to establish just how much unlabeled horse meat is being sold as beef or other foods.

    For ManMohan Sodhi, a professor specializing in supply chains at London’s City University, the news has been a revelation.

    “If you had talked to me a month ago, I would have said: ‘No, it would never happen; I completely believe in the [food supply] system,’” he said.

    Now his message is “Watch out for what you eat.”

    The U.K. has ordered thousands of beef products be tested - as companies recall ready-to-eat meals bought by millions after finding horsemeat in lasagna. ITV'S Chris Choy reports.

    Sodhi compared the current situation to the first signs of the gross mismanagement of subprime mortgages that led to the banking crisis. “People began to uncover risks and suddenly there were too many problems,” he said.

    He said large supermarkets like to deal with large suppliers who are in turn supplied by other firms and so on down to farmers and other actual food producers. At any point in the chain, someone could decide to cut costs by replacing a high-cost food with a cheap substitute.

    Sodhi explained it was not in the interest of supermarkets to check their suppliers. This, he said, would be an added expense and would also make them legally liable if something went wrong.

    Taking goods on trust meant they instead had “plausible deniability,” he said. “Then if something bad happens, all I do is put out an advertisement and say, ‘We really care about our customers, we’re doing everything we can … too bad somebody did something horrible.”

    In a video message, Tim Smith, group technical director of supermarket giant Tesco, spoke of the firm's "unreserved apology" over the discovery of horse DNA in its frozen hamburgers and said it had dropped a supplier in Ireland.

    But he also stressed the company was taking steps to ensure this never happened again.

    Smith said Tesco planned to "launch a new program of activity which will test on a DNA fingerprinting basis all the meat and meat products that we source from our suppliers ... adding another layer of surveillance to help protect our customers."

    On Thursday, a Tesco spokesman was unable to clarify exactly how extensive the DNA tests would be.

    'Cynically and systematically duped'
    Sodhi’s opinion that things could be far worse than they currently appear might be dismissed by some.

    But a committee of British lawmakers that investigated the situation published a report Thursday that concluded the discoveries so far were “likely to be the tip of the iceberg” amid “suggestion of fraud on a massive scale.”

    The committee concluded that it appeared consumers had been “cynically and systematically duped in pursuit of profit by elements within the food industry.”

    “This scandal has also raised broader food policy questions about cheap food production, transparency, consumer confidence and pressures within the supply chain,” it added.

    There are suggestions that traditional butcher’s stores have benefited from the furor.

    Toby Melville / Reuters

    Danny Lidgate hangs meat in the cold store area of Lidgates butchers in London Wednesday, as traditional butchers report a surge in demand from consumers.

    Roger Kelsey, of the National Federation of Meat & Food Traders, estimated his members had seen an increase of up to 50 percent in demand for sausages, ground beef and burgers, according to the BBC. The British Retail Consortium, which represents supermarkets, has insisted their sales have not suffered.

    Family-run store Aubrey Allen, of Leamington Spa, was named the U.K.’s Butcher’s Shop of the Year 2012 and was recently given a royal warrant to supply meat, poultry and game to Britain’s Queen Elizabeth II.

    Russell Allen, who was born into the business, said supermarkets would “push and squeeze” and “bully their suppliers” to cut costs.

    But he also said ordinary people shared some of the blame for the horse meat scandal by providing the demand for very cheap food.

    “If you are buying five burgers for a pound ($1.55), I kind of think you get what you deserve," he said. "It suggests you don’t care, so why would you suddenly care?”

    Allen said he thought people should eat better quality meat and have it less often.

    He lamented the loss of a culture of cooking. Now, he said, people don't know what to do with cheaper cuts of meat and view him as strange for having homemade soup for lunch.

    “Generally people say, ‘I don’t have time to cook’ and I say, ‘Well, you’ve got time to watch people cooking [on television],’” he said.

    Allen said butcher’s shops were making something of a comeback after many were put out of business by supermarkets in the 1970s and 1980s.

    But he admitted mass-produced food was probably here to stay. “I think it’s possibly a necessary evil on some levels. Not everyone can afford to, not everyone has the luxury of eating quality products all the time,” he said.

    'Going on for years'
    Frenchman Michel Roux Jr., whose restaurant Le Gavroche is one of Britain’s best, also criticized supermarkets for putting pressure on their suppliers and suggested the horse meat scandal was not a recent occurrence.

    “I’m sure that it’s been going on for years, absolutely years,” he said. “It’s being done on a nod and a wink.”

    Roux said he remembered as a child eating roast horse and horse burgers. And he suggested a legitimate market for horse meat might be a positive step.

    Related: Horse slaughtering legal in US, but public won't bite

    “Horse meat is a good meat … maybe in Britain we should embrace it, we should be eating more,” Roux said.

    He said the flavor was “not too dissimilar to beef, slightly sweeter and richer,” admitting it wasn’t his favorite.

    However, asked if he would put horse meat on his menu, he replied, “Not as yet.”

    In Ireland, the officials who uncovered that first horse meat burger and several others with trace amounts can scarcely believe what has transpired since they went public on Jan. 15. 

    Ray Ellard, director of The Food Safety Authority of Ireland, said they had been “not expecting to find too much” when they carried out a small survey of beef products.

    “We were kind of … I wouldn’t say taken aback, but that’s kind of the truth,” Ellard said. “We were wondering, ‘What’s going on here?’ and wanted to be absolutely sure of the science of what we were doing.”

    “We set out to do something fairly simple. We didn’t know it was going to end up where it is,” Ellard added. “It’s been painful for a lot of the food industry, some people have had reputational damage.”

    “We’re glad in one way. Systems will all improve and the potential for defrauding people will be a lot less. We’re glad that that’s happened, but we had a nervous few days, I can tell you.”

    Reuters contributed to this report.

    Related:

    European horse meat scandal spreads amid fears harmful drug entered human food chain

    'Criminal conspiracy' blamed for European horse-in-burger scandal

    Hamburgers pulled from UK supermarket shelves after tests reveal horsemeat


    373 comments

    Well driving a friend of mine to his daily burger king lunch, i couldnt help but notice he stamped his foot 3 times when asked, how many burgers he wanted!

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  • 16
    Jan
    2013
    10:38am, EST

    China: One-child policy is here to stay

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    Parents play with their children at a kid's play area in a shopping mall in Beijing on Jan. 10.

    By Le Li and Alastair Jamieson, NBC News

    BEIJING — China has quelled speculation its controversial "one-child" policy is to be scrapped, instead announcing Wednesday that family planning laws to curb the birth rate will remain.

    "The policy should be a long-term one and its primary goal is to keep a low birthrate," Wang Xia, minister in charge of the National Population and Family Planning Commission, said.

    The pronouncement comes after months of speculation that the decades-old restriction would be abandoned.


    In October, a Chinese government think tank urged the policy be relaxed to allow two children for every family in the country by 2015.

    "I’m surprised," said Professor Shaun Breslin, associate fellow at U.K. think tank, Chatham House. "Almost everything we had heard in recent months pointed towards a relaxation of one-child."

    The 1979 law prohibits about one-third of China’s 1.3 billion citizens from having a second child. The policy is officially backed up by fines, but campaigners say more than one million forced abortions are carried out every year.

    It has slowed the spectacular growth of the country’s population, preventing an estimated 400 million births over three decades.

    In a related statement on Wednesday, the family planning commission said China’s current low birthrate "is not stable because, with the exception of some developed cities, the fertility level in most of China's regions will rise if the basic state policy of family planning is abolished."

    "Therefore it is necessary to stick to the basic state policy of family planning to stabilize the current low fertility level," it added.

    Breslin said China’s looming demographic crisis — a huge elderly population supported by a relatively tiny younger generation — highlighted social problems such as the need for greater universal healthcare.

    "For most Chinese people the current system works fine if you have a sore throat, but a knee operation could use up all your savings," he said. "That means many are keen to ensure they have a male child in order to ensure there is enough income in the family."

    He added that Wednesday’s announcement did not mean China’s new leadership was eschewing economic or social reforms. "It can take a year or two for any new leadership in China to introduce change," he said.

    Professor Hu Xingdou, of the Beijing Institute of Technology, told the South China Morning Post it would be difficult for the government to abolish the one-child policy overnight.

    "China still needs a family-planning policy due to our vast population and lack of cropland, as well as the relative deficiency of per capita resources,” he said.

    The one-child rule is mainly enforced in urban areas.

    Wang also announced an expansion of rural healthcare provision for pregnant women, and said efforts "should also be made to rectify the imbalance in gender ratio."

    She also said a "complete working system" would be established to "in light of the great numbers of young migrant workers flocking to the cities for jobs."

    Related stories:

    Chinese say one child is enough as Beijing weighs end of policy

    Growing calls in China to change the one-child policy

    Not Chinese enough in China? Americans' dilemma

     

    229 comments

    Controls can be good things in order for organization. I live in another Bric country, Brazil where they "should" have this type of regulation. Just because the economy is temporarily o.k. here, doesn't mean that every person that "cannot" properly support their children, should have them.

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  • 28
    Dec
    2012
    8:32am, EST

    Putin signs law banning American adoptions

    Those already undergoing the costly process of adopting a child from Russia found out Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a law barring any future adoptions, canceling the ones in progress. NBC's Kerry Sanders reports.

    By NBC News staff and wire reports

    President Vladimir Putin signed a law on Friday that bans Americans from adopting Russian children and imposes other measures in retaliation for new U.S. legislation meant to punish Russian human rights abusers.

    The law, which has ignited outrage among Russian liberals and children's rights advocates, enters into force on Jan. 1 and is likely to strain U.S.-Russia relations.


    As well as banning U.S. adoptions, it will also outlaw some non-governmental organizations that receive U.S. funding and impose a visa ban and asset freeze on Americans accused of violating the rights of Russians abroad.

    The law could block dozens of Russian children expected to be adopted by American families from leaving the country and cut off one of the main international routes for Russian children to leave orphanages that are often dismal. Russia is the single biggest source of adopted children in the United States, with more than 60,000 Russian children being taken in by Americans over the past two decades.

    The bill is retaliation for an American law that calls for sanctions against Russians deemed to be human rights violators and part of an increasingly confrontational stance by the Kremlin against the West.

    Related: Americans may lose right to adopt Russian children


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    Putin said U.S. authorities routinely let Americans suspected of violence toward Russian adoptees go unpunished — a clear reference to Dima Yakovlev, a Russian toddler for whom the bill is named. The child was adopted by Americans and then died in 2008 after his father left him in a car in broiling heat for hours. The father was found not guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

    Children's rights ombudsman Pavel Astakhov on Wednesday said that 46 children who were about to be adopted in the United States would remain in Russia if the bill came into effect. On Thursday, he petitioned the president to extend the ban to other countries.

    Courtesy Thomas family

    John and Renee Thomas with their son, Jack, 7, who was adopted from Russia at the age of 3. Jack is hoping for his brother, Nikoly, now in a Russian orphanage, to join him in the United States.

    Would-be adoptive parents in the United States are left hanging by Putin's signing of the bill, which was passed by Russian lawmakers last week.

    Among them are John and Renee Thomas of Minnetonka, Minn., Kari Huus of NBC News reported. The Thomases have already adopted Jack, 7, from Russia. When they found out he had a little brother, they began the process to try to adopt him, too. The wait has stretched to four years, and now the adoption may be in danger. 

    "When Jack is asked about his family, he talks about his brother," John Thomas said. "He always asks, 'When is he coming home?' We just tell him we’re waiting for the call."

    More: Adoption of little brother caught in US-Russia spat

    UNICEF estimates that there are about 740,000 children without parental custody in Russia, while only 18,000 Russians are now waiting to adopt a child.

    Russian President Vladamir Putin has said he'll sign a proposed law that would halt adoptions of Russian children to Americans. NBC's Duncan Golestani reports.

    The U.S. State Department on Thursday repeated its opposition to the Russian measure.

    "The welfare of children is simply too important to tie to the political aspects of our relationship," State Department spokesman Patrick Ventrell said. "Additionally, we are deeply troubled by the provisions in the bill that would restrict the ability of Russian civil society organizations to work with American partners."  

    Critics of the bill left dozens of stuffed toys and candles outside the parliament's lower and upper houses to express solidarity with Russian orphans. 

    An online petition urging the Kremlin to scrap the bill garnered more than 100,000 Russian signatures. 

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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    There are over 100,000 adoptable children in the US waiting for you to jump on the "Adopt a US Child" bandwagon.

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  • 16
    Nov
    2012
    10:33am, EST

    Four generations of struggle: Family's story illustrates revival of Russia's Jewish culture

    Sergey Ponomarev / AP

    Four generations of the Zimanenko-Rozin family pose in their Moscow apartment on Nov. 11, 2012. From left: Mark Rozin, 47, Daniil Rozin, 11, Lev Rozin, 24, Anatoly Rozin, 78, Geda Zimanenko, 100, Luiza Rozina, 78, Maya Rozina, 8.

    Sergey Ponomarev / AP

    An old photograph of Geda Rozina, who is now aged 100, in a family photo album.

    The Associated Press reports from Moscow — In czarist times, Geda Zimanenko watched her mother offer the local police officer a shot of vodka on a plate and five rubles every Sunday to overlook the fact that their family lived outside the area where Jews were allowed to live.

    Then came the Bolshevik Revolution and Zimanenko became a good Communist, raising her own son to believe in ideals that strove to stamp out distinctions of race and religion. Her grandson, born after the death of dictator Josef Stalin, was more cynical of Communism and felt the heat of growing Soviet anti-Semitism.

    Russia warns US of retaliation over 'unfriendly' human rights bill

    Now the 100-year-old matriarch's great-grandson, brought up after the fall of the Soviet Union and in a spirit of freedom of conscience, is fully embracing his Jewish roots: 24-year-old Lev Rozin works at Moscow's new Jewish museum, Europe's largest and Russia's first major attempt to tell the story of its Jewish community. The four generations of Zimanenko's family are a microcosm of the history of Jews in Russia over the past century, from the restrictions of imperial times through Soviet hardship to today's revival of Jewish culture in Russia, a trajectory that is put on vivid display at the Jewish Museum and Center of Tolerance. Read the full story.

    Sergey Ponomarev / AP

    Maya Rozina, 8, and Anatoly Rozin, 78. Anatoly says he remembers being exposed to "everyday" anti-Semitism since childhood when neighborhood children called him and his brother names.

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    The family drink tea at their apartment in Moscow.

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    Considering the history of Russia, this is a good story indeed!

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  • 13
    Sep
    2012
    12:34pm, EDT

    'Heads with bullet holes': Ex-pilot who found multiple murder victims in Alps tells of horror

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    Flowers lay at the site where four people died in a shooting at a parking in Chevaline, near Annecy Lake, France, on Sept. 8.

    By NBC News staff and wire reports

    LONDON -- A former British air force pilot who discovered the bodies of four people on a road in the French Alps has told how he slowly realized what he initially thought was an accident was actually a horrific multiple murder and how he could be in serious danger.

    Brett Martin was cycling on the road near Lake Annecy on Sept. 5 when he discovered the bodies of Saad al-Hilli, 50, an Iraqi-born engineer, his wife Iqbal, a 47-year-old dentist, and and her mother in a BMW car, along with French cyclist Sylvain Mollier, 45. Mollier had cycled passed Martin, from Sussex, England, earlier on the road.

    In an interview with BBC News, Martin said he feared the shooter might still be nearby, but took actions that were later said by French authorities to have saved the life of the al-Hillis' daughter Zainab, 7, who was shot and beaten in the attack.



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    Martin told the BBC the first thing he saw as he approached the scene was a bicycle lying on its side and Zainab, who he initially thought was playing. He then realized she had serious head injuries and was covered in blood.

    "She was prone on the road, moaning, semi-conscious and she was lying in a position that was in front of this car with its wheels spinning," Martin told the broadcaster. "She was very severely injured because she was in and out of consciousness."

    'A lot of blood'
    He moved her out of the path the car, which was still going with its wheels spinning, before turning to the cyclist, before quickly deducing he was dead.

    Martin then went to switch off the car’s engine and started to wonder if holes in the windows of the car had been made by bullets.

    4 slain in French Alps; girl, possible witness, survives

    "It became fairly evident that the injuries of the people inside didn't match what one would think people would be like from a car accident," he said.

    But it was only when he moved round to the back of the car, that the situation became clear.

    Martin said it looked like a scene from a Hollywood movie.

    "If somebody had said 'cut' and everybody got up and walked away that would have been it, but unfortunately it was real life,” he told the BBC. "It became quite obvious now, taking stock, that it was a gun crime. Now I was getting a little bit anxious.

    "There was a lot of blood and heads with bullet holes in them," he added.

    Girl, 4, hid for eight hours in car filled with corpses after mystery shootings in France

    'Crazy person in the woods'
    Martin then looked around, fearing a "crazy person in the woods" might by firing from a distance with a high-powered rifle.

    Despite this danger, he tried to call the emergency number on his cellphone, but was unable to get a signal and had to go for help.

    Zainab came out of a medically-induced coma on Sunday and will be questioned by police as soon as she is fit.

    7-year-old survivor of French Alps slayings speaks to police

    Her four-year-old sister sister Zeena -- who was found hiding in the car hours after the shooting -- also survived. Martin told the BBC that it did not "surprise me in the least" that the girl was not found sooner because she was hidden beneath the bodies of the two women in the car.

    Justin Tallis / AFP - Getty Images

    British police personnel carry out a search of the front garden at the home of Saad and Iqbal al-Hilli in Claygate, in Surrey, south-east England, Thursday.

    French investigators, who said about 25 gun shells had been retrieved from the area, traveled to Britain on Thursday to liaise with British detectives who have been searching the al-Hilli family home in a leafy village in Surrey, south of London.

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    French prosecutor Eric Maillaud told reporters at a Surrey police station they believed "in all likelihood the origins, causes and explanations are here in this country."

    NBC News' Ian Johnston and Reuters contributed to this report.

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    Poor little girls. I hope there is some extended family to take care of them.

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  • 8
    Sep
    2012
    7:03pm, EDT

    Alps slaying victims each shot twice in head; family home searched

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    Flowers are seen Saturday at the crime scene where three people were shot to death in a British-registered car and a fourth was found nearby, in a forest near Chevaline in the French Alps.

    By NBC News staff and wire services

    Police from two countries on Saturday searched the Surrey, England, house of a British man shot dead in the French Alps with his wife and another woman.


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    The search came as French forensics experts who performed autopsies on the three British victims and a passing local bicyclist who was also shot dead determined all four had been shot twice directly in the head.

    Iraqi-born aeronautics engineer al-Hilli, 50, his wife, Iqbal, 47, their two daughters and a 77-year-old woman thought to be Iqbal's mother, were holidaying in the Alps near Lake Annecy in the Haute Savoie when they were attacked Wednesday. The adults' bodies were found inside a British-registered maroon BMW at the end of a narrow track near the village of Chevaline.


    The passing cyclist was identified as Sylvain Mollier, 45, of Grenoble.

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    British police officers stand Saturday outside a southeast England house believed to be the home of a family shot dead in their car in the French Alps.

    The Hillis' daughters, Zainab, 7, and Zeena, 4, survived and are under police protection after the Wednesday shootings on a remote forest road near the village of Chevaline. Zainab was shot in the shoulder and beaten. Zeena was found cowering under the skirt of her dead mother, where she had remained undetected for eight hours after French gendarmes sealed off the scene.

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    In Surrey, French police Col. Marc de Tarle, speaking outside police headquarters after his officers searched Saad al-Hilli's home nearby with a British forensics team, said the shooting investigation would be “long and complex,” the BBC reported.

    Two relatives of the al-Hilli family have gone to France, accompanied by a British social worker and family-liaison officers from Surrey police, to comfort the Hillis’s two daughters, who survived the attack, the BBC reported.

    The brother of a British man, murdered with his family in the French Alps, has denied reports of a family feud.  Police also revealed the four year old girl who survived the massacre saw nothing, because she'd hidden under her mother's skirts before the attack began. ITV's  Emma Murphy reports. 

    In France, State Prosecutor Eric Maillaud told reporters, "The autopsies on the four people found dead found there were several bullets, but each one had received two bullets in the full head," the Guardian newspaper of London reported.

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    "I cannot say if the killer or killers were professional; all I can say is there was an absolute determination to kill. To put two bullets in the head of each person shows that whoever was responsible for the terrible drama was determined to kill."

    "We don't know what the elder girl was hit with and we cannot say in what order the victims were shot,” Maillaud said. “It seems the scene happened very rapidly."

    Horrific details emerge after four people were killed in the French Alps but the motive behind the murders of an Iraqi-born British citizen, his wife and her mother is still unknown. A passing cyclist was also killed.

    He added the postmortem and ballistic reports had pushed the idea of the victims being targeted by a lone gunman "further down the list of hypotheses."

    Family feud behind massacre in French Alps?

    Maillaud said a family feud over money was one of several motives being considered for the murders and the brother of Saad al-Hilli would be formally questioned.

    "The brother says there was no dispute so let us remain cautious about that," he said.

    The prosecutor said investigators had gleaned little from their "moving" chat on Friday with Zeena, who is in a psychiatric hospital in Grenoble, accompanied by a nurse and British embassy staff. Zeena was found cowering terrified under the skirt of her dead mother, where she had remained undetected for eight hours after French gendarmes sealed off the scene.

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    Maillaud said members of the family had arrived on site, but declined to say who they were.

    Police hope Zainab, who was still in an artificial coma in a Grenoble hospital, will be able to eventually provide more information.

    "The two girls are doing as well as can be expected," Maillaud said.

    This article includes reporting by Reuters.

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    This is certainly not a normal case. An execution. Probably over money. Or possibly revenge. I hope they catch the skunk responsible for these murders.. Condolences to any family or friends.

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  • 7
    Sep
    2012
    5:06am, EDT

    Brother denies family conflict behind massacre in French Alps

    Horrific details emerge after four people were killed in the French Alps but the motive behind the murders of an Iraqi-born British citizen, his wife and her mother is still unknown. A passing cyclist was also killed.

    By NBC News, ITV News and wire services

     

    Updated 7:15 p.m. ET: The brother of a British man shot dead in the French Alps with his wife and two other people came forward to authorities and denied any conflict in the family, The Associated Press reported Friday, as investigators probed whether a money dispute among the siblings motivated the bloodshed. 

    Iraqi-born engineer Saad al-Hilli, 50, his wife Iqbal, and her mother were found shot dead in a car on a remote road near Annecy Wednesday. A French cyclist was found dead nearby. Investigators were working to identify a fourth victim, an elderly Iraqi-born Swedish woman who was also in the car, The AP reported.  

    The al-Hillis' 7-year-old daughter Zainab was found seriously injured, but alive, while their 4-year-old daughter Zeena was discovered Thursday after hiding beneath her dead mother’s legs for eight hours.


    Three of the dead were shot in the forehead with a semi-automatic weapon, leading to speculation that the killings were a professional hit.

     Girl, 4, hid for eight hours in car filled with corpses after shootings in France

    On Friday, prosecutor Eric Maillaud told French news agency AFP that they were looking into "credible information" from British police about a family argument.

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    Police escort the car in which three members of a British family were shot dead near Chevaline, France.

    "It seems that there was a dispute between the two brothers about money … The brother will have to be questioned at length. Every lead will be meticulously followed,” he said.

    On Friday, after learning of authorities' suspicion about a possible family feud, Zaid al-Hilli went to British police and told them, "I have no conflict with my brother," according to Eric Maillaud, a prosecutor in nearby Annecy.

    "This brother came forward spontaneously to investigators, first to ask simply about the state of his brother because he heard through British media that his brother was dead," Maillaud said, according to the AP.

    But a family friend produced a letter written by Saad that alluded to an inheritance dispute with Zaid in the wake of their father's recent death, the report said.

    In an effort to avoid tipping off the perpetrator or perpetrators, French authorities released only a handful of clues about the investigation.

    The U.K.'s Sky News said the prosecutor’s office had stressed the family dispute was just one of a number of possible scenarios being investigated by the authorities.

    Al-Hilli was born in Baghdad in 1962, but had lived in Britain since at least 2002. Public records identified him as a mechanical engineer and his LinkedIn page described him as an aerospace consultant.

    Detectives in France are facing criticism as to why the sole survivor in a brutal quadruple homicide in an Alpine town was not discovered alive until eight hours after the shooting. ITN's Damon Green.

    A British cyclist, reportedly a former member of Britain’s Royal Air Force, was the first on the scene of the shootings at about 4 p.m. Wednesday, when he came upon al-Hilli’s BMW with its engine running. The three dead al-Hilli family members were inside the car with the French cyclist, Sylvain Mollier, 40, lying dead outside.

    Mollier, who had no ties to the family, had passed the British cyclist on the road earlier. The British man put the seven-year-old girl in the recovery position and called emergency services. He has been credited with saving her life.

    "He had a strong command of his nerves. We must welcome his action and congratulate him," Maillaud said Wednesday.

    ITV News reported that autopsies would be carried out on the dead Friday as the hunt for clues continues.

    It is also hoped the children will have information useful to the investigators.

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    A police officer stands in the front a house in Claygate, south-east England, on Thursday which is believed to be where the al-Hilli family lived.

    British Ambassador to France, Sir Peter Ricketts, told ITV News Friday that they were trying to help the children involved in what he described as an “awful and heart-rending story."


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    "What we can do is help these poor little girls with some English-speaking, friendly consular people to be with them," he said.

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    Ricketts said the younger child, who was not physically hurt, was "deeply traumatized."

    U.K. officials had not been able to visit her older sister for medical reasons, he said, but added she was in a stable condition. On Thursday, French officials said her injuries were no longer life-threatening.

    ITV News is NBC's U.K. partner. The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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    Mr. Saad Al-Hilli's father passed away last year and he was a very wealthy man owning properties in Iraq,France,Spain and Switzerland. Saad Al-Hilli was an engineer -SSTL-Edds etc. work.He and his brother had disputes over the inheritance- an angle the Brits are looking into. The brother voluntaril  …

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  • 9
    May
    2012
    3:52am, EDT

    Fisher House offers gift to UK's wounded troops: $2 million toward 'sanctuary'

    courtesy Hawkins family

    Former British Royal Marine Ed Hawkins was seriously injured in Afghanistan in 2010. He left hospital last year and is currently on a work placement.

    By Alastair Jamieson, msnbc.com

    LONDON -- Fisher House, the Maryland-based charity which provides overnight accommodation for families visiting hospitalized military members, is expanding onto foreign soil for the first time with a facility for British troops.

    Construction has begun on a $6.8-million building with 18 en-suite rooms that will allow relatives to stay close to the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Birmingham, where the U.K.'s most seriously wounded military personnel are treated.


    As well as providing servicemen and women a place to relax away from hospital wards, it will have communal living space including a family room, play area, lounge and kitchen and a private garden.

    Fisher House, which was founded during the first Gulf War in 1990, has more than 50 projects in the U.S., as well as others located on American bases in Germany. However, this is its first truly international venture.

    'Unique American model'
    Talk show host and former U.S. Marine Montel Williams and the charity’s chairman, Ken Fisher, attended a ground-breaking ceremony at the site.

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    Montel Williams at the ground-breaking ceremony for the new Fisher House project at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Birmingham, England, on April 23.

    "This is a great honor for Fisher House, as we share with our British brothers and sisters our unique American model for caring for military families," Fisher said.

    "This will be a sanctuary for the people who need it most: those who have made deep personal sacrifices – whether on the battlefield or on the home front – to keep us safe.  We thank them even though we know it will never be enough."

    Almost 10,000 British troops are in combat alongside 90,000 U.S. personnel in Afghanistan. Figures from Britain's Ministry of Defence, collated by The Guardian newspaper, show 832 have been seriously wounded since Operation Enduring Freedom began in 2001.

    Many families travel for hundreds of miles to be by their loved ones' bedside -- sometimes for weeks at a time, because of the need for months or even years of surgery and rehabilitation. Military accommodation exists for family members but only six bedrooms are available at Queen Elizabeth Hospital.

    Jan. 25: There are many of them around the country and they're all called Fisher House — a place for wounded war veterans to recover with the love and support of their families close by. NBC's Ann Curry reports.

    Sue Hawkins, whose son Ed was almost killed by an improvised explosive device while on a patrol in Afghanistan in May 2010, said the new facility would "be a great source of comfort, particularly at a time when families are surrounded by so much uncertainty."

    The blast killed his corporal and seriously wounded Ed, who was serving with the Royal Marines. He was flown back to Birmingham for several months of treatment.

    "When we were told about Ed, we just left for the hospital," Sue Hawkins told msnbc.com. "We had no idea how long we would be there or even if he would survive. I can remember everything about that day, because of the shock, but that last thing you have time to think about it is planning where to stay."

    Five-hour round trip
    Faced with a daily five-hour round trip from their home in Hampshire, Sue and her husband Michael spent many nights across the road from the hospital in a former nurses' accommodation block, before moving to the military facility – a converted house in a residential street.


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    "There were times when Ed became very distressed and we were able to reach him quickly when the hospital called," she said. "That sort of comfort and care is very important. We know first-hand how important it is to have a 'home from home' in difficult, emotional and challenging times. Fisher House truly is a massive step in the best direction possible.”

    Ed Hawkins, who is now 26, left hospital last year and is currently on a work placement.

    British soldier Nick Gibbons, who lost a leg in a bomb in Afghanistan in 2008, also attended the ground-breaking ceremony on April 23. He told ITV News: "It's what you need really, your family around you. Facilities like this are great because it not only allows the family to stay here, it gives you a better relationship with your family. It's a stressful time. The last thing you want is them travelling."

    Fisher House has contributed $2 million to the project, with the rest of the building cost provided by U.K. veterans' charity Help for Heroes, whose high-profile supporters include Prince Harry. It will be operated by the Queen Elizabeth Hospital Charity and funded by Help for Heroes when it opens next year.

    Britain's Prince Harry charmed the crowds in Washington, D.C., where he was on hand to accept a humanitarian award for his work with wounded veterans. NBC's Kristen Welker reports.

    President Barack Obama and his wife Michelle have previously made a sizeable donation to Fisher House, which also operates a Hero Miles Program that uses donated frequent flyer miles to bring family members to the bedside of injured service members. 

    Montel Williams told the Birmingham Mail that he was a regular visitor to Fisher House sites in the U.S., cooking meals for soldiers and their families. "I'll definitely be coming to Birmingham to do the same," he told the newspaper. "I'll bring my sister and my chef with me and we'll rustle up things like crab cakes and fish. It'll be real American-style cooking."

    Msnbc.com's David Arnott contributed to this report.

     

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    A feel good story to start the morning, thank you. I wish the soldiers and their families the best while going through their recovery, because family is everything in situations such as this. It's good to see there will be a place for this to happen. Great job Fisher House.

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  • 12
    Apr
    2012
    11:18am, EDT

    Aged nun accused in Spanish baby-stealing cases

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    Spanish nun Maria Gomez Valbuena (C) leaves a court in Madrid on Thursday.

    By Reuters

    An elderly Spanish nun appeared in court on Thursday to face charges of stealing babies, after claims by hundreds of women that their infants were taken from them at birth and given away in illegal adoptions.

    Doctors, nurses and religious workers at several clinics and hospitals in Spain are alleged to have sold babies for adoption over decades, after telling new mothers that their infants had died.


    At the hearing at Madrid's Superior Tribunal of Justice, Maria Gomez Valbuena, a Sisters of Charity nun now in her 80s who once worked in the Santa Cristina hospital in Madrid, became the first person accused in the widening scandal.

    Clad in a dark habit, she was questioned by a judge but invoked her right not to testify.

    The formal charges against her are of illegal detention and falsifying documents in a case dating from the early 1980s.

    A crowd of mothers who say they were robbed of their babies shouted "shameless" at the grim-faced nun as she was escorted out of the court through a throng of journalists to a car.

    An association of parents and families, Anadir, has presented more than 900 lawsuits alleging child-stealing. Most have been thrown out due to lack of evidence.

    Many mothers say they were told by health or religious workers their babies had died at birth or shortly after, but were neither shown a body nor given a proper death certificate.

    Anadir says the practice began in the 1940s when, in the aftermath of the Spanish Civil War, the fascist government stole babies from political prisoners from the defeated Republican side.

    In subsequent decades it became a money-making racket, the victims claim. Parents who wanted to adopt babies were often referred to clinics that were known for finding babies for desperate families.

    Many of the mothers have said they believe their babies were taken due to a mistaken paternalism on the part of the doctors or religious workers who may have seen them as unfit mothers because they were young, poor or unmarried.

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    Paloma Perez, who says she was a stolen baby, talks to reporters in front of a court in Madrid, Thursday.

    One mother testified in court last week that Gomez Valbuena had told her she could be jailed for adultery. The nun threatened to take her baby away and give it to another family, and later said the baby had died.

    The mother, Maria Luisa Torres, has been able to prove through DNA tests the baby she was told had died 30 years ago is alive after being adopted by another family.

    "I only hope there will be justice after so much suffering," Torres said last week after testifying in court.

    Many other mothers have found it impossible to track down babies they believe would now be adults, since the birth records, death certificates and adoption papers were falsified, according to Anadir and to the Madrid prosecutor.

    Alleged victims say they need help from authorities in unearthing evidence of their claims from graveyards and public registries.

    "The government will not fail in its duty. We share the pain of the victims and we will go as far as we can," said Justice Minister Alberto Ruiz-Gallardon after meeting representatives of associations representing people who say their babies were stolen.

    The Ministry of Justice says it will gather the facts about all of the different claims to be able to investigate them more systematically, and will also handle the results of DNA tests.

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    This is the kind of horrific religious abuse that creates atheists. What incredible arrogance.

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