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  • 19
    Jan
    2012
    7:56pm, EST

    US Army rejects argument to arm medevac helicopters

    By NBC News and msnbc.com staff

    The U.S. Army is disputing assertions that putting weapons on medical evacuation helicopters could improve the survival rate of soldiers fighting in Afghanistan after the death last September of an Army specialist who had to wait for transport after stepping on an explosive.

    Concerns about the evacuation of Spec. Chazray C. Clark have been raised by an Internet blogger, Michael Yon, who had been embedded with Clark's unit, and by Missouri Congressman Tim Akin, who earlier this week wrote a letter to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, questioning the army's policy of using only unarmed medevac helicopters. Those medevacs require an armed escort, which can lead to delays because of the high demand for helicopters.


    “Any policy commitment that would impede even a single wounded soldier or Marine from receiving medical care in the least amount of time possible is simply unacceptable,” said Akin in his letter. “The medical staff in Afghanistan is courageous and is providing the best possible care for wounded service members. Unfortunately, bureaucrats in the Pentagon are delaying this care needlessly. If there is one thing we have learned in combat medicine in recent years, it is that quickly getting medical care is crucial. This policy must be corrected.”

    Clark's legs and one arm were blown off by a bomb he stepped on. It was reported that he had to wait at least 30 minutes and possibly up to 40 minutes for the armed escort. The 24-year-old from Ecorse, Mich., died about an hour after arriving at a military field hospital.

    Akin asserts that Army medevacs should be armed, the same way the Air Force and British allies handle the transport of their wounded service members.

    "I cannot state with certainty whether or not Specialist Clark's life would have been saved by getting him to Kandahar sooner," Akin said. "However, we do know that minutes after a battlefield wound are crucial and getting the wounded to proper medical care rapidly is vital."

    The Army, however, is disputing the assertion that an armed medevac would improve survival rates for wounded soldiers. The  tradition of using unarmed helicopters dates back to the Vietnam war, apparently in support of the Geneva Convention. Instead of bearing weapons, the choppers display the Red Cross symbol, which the Army contends has been successful at keeping the enemy from targeting them.

    Specifically, the Army contends that even an armed medical evacuation helicopter would have had to wait for another armed helicopter escort to provide top cover while on the ground. Even the most heavily armed attack helicopters always travel in pairs, no matter what the mission, the Army says.

    Also, adding gunners with weapons and ammunition would add weight and take up space on the helicopters, limiting the space for stretchers and impeding their ability to operate at higher altitudes, according to the Army.

    Finally, the Army claims that the 92 percent survival rate for badly wounded soldiers in Afghanistan is the highest in the military's history, in part because of the performance of the unarmed helicopter transports.

    In the case of Clark, the Army acknowledged that the ideal amount of time for getting a wounded soldier from the field to hospital is 30 minutes.  But an Army official said he arrived within 59 minutes, the so-called golden hour for survival, and received advanced medical attention on the flight.

    This post includes reporting by NBC News chief Pentagon correspondent Jim Miklaszewski and msnb.com staff.

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    46 comments

    Medical vehicles of all types by all nations should not be armed. And all nations should respect the need to safely evacuate the injured from the battlefield. .

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  • 8
    Dec
    2011
    11:43am, EST

    Hundreds protest in Islamabad as NATO fuel tankers set ablaze

    By NBC News and the Associated Press

    QUETTA, Pakistan --  Hundreds of people took to the streets in Pakistan's capital city of Islamabad Thursday, to protest the NATO airstrike that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers on Nov 26, NBC News reported.

    Lawyers, union members, and others -- carrying Pakistani flag and signs reading "Go America Go" and "We Condemn Nato Attack" -- marched to the heavily-fortified diplomatic enclave. Police in riot gear stood behind barbed wire along parts of the route. A dummy marked "Nato" was burned outside the Parliament building.

    A police official told Agence France Presse that 500 policemen were deployed around the diplomatic enclave to prevent any violence.

    The protest came after assailants earlier torched more than 20 tankers in Pakistan carrying fuel for U.S. and NATO troops in neighboring Afghanistan on Thursday, in the first reported attack since Islamabad closed the border to protest coalition airstrikes.

    Several hundred trucks have been stranded at poorly guarded terminals around the country as they wait for Pakistan to reopen its two border crossings into Afghanistan. Around 40 percent of the non-lethal supplies for U.S.-led troops in landlocked Afghanistan travel across Pakistani soil.

    Islamabad closed both frontier crossings into Afghanistan on Nov. 26, hours after airstrikes by the U.S.-led coalition killed 24 Pakistani troops on the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. U.S. and NATO officials have said the incident was a mistake, and have pledged to investigate.

    Police officer Hamid Shakil says unknown men fired rockets at a terminal for the tankers close to the southwestern city of Quetta. He said at least 23 tankers were set ablaze. There were no immediate reports of casualties.

    Last year, Islamabad temporarily closed one of its Afghan crossings to NATO supplies after U.S. helicopters accidentally killed two Pakistani soldiers. Suspected militants or criminals took advantage of the impasse to launch many attacks against stranded or rerouted trucks carrying NATO supplies.

    The deadly airstrikes at the border sent already tense relations between Pakistan and the United States to new lows, threatening Islamabad's cooperation in helping negotiate an end to the Afghan war.

    It came amid political tensions in Islamabad following the resignation of Pakistan's ambassador to the United States following an outcry from the country's powerful military establishment, which is in charge of Afghan and U.S. policy. Envoy Husain Haqqani stepped down because of allegations he wrote a memo to Washington asking for its help to stop a supposed military coup.

    President Asif Ali Zardari has been under pressure because of the scandal, and on Tuesday flew to Dubai for medical treatment related to a heart condition. His trip led to rumors that the 56-year-old was losing his grip on power.

    Earlier Thursday, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said the U.S. expected Zardari, an American ally, "will be able to return in full health in his duties" after receiving treatment. A statement for the presidency said Zardari's health was improving.

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    The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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    30 comments

    It is the USA spinning out of control. All this crap is because we can't see the American Empire is in decline. We really have to quit spreading our bases all over the world. World domination is a loser project. How about we close our more than 800 bases and bring our guys home and spend the money  …

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